/fa/ - Fashion

Ich geh dann mal Essen kochen. Schauermal was hieraus wird.

>>15334923
That crown guard and lug design are terrible

>>15334923
speak english retard

>>15334931
not him but ive seen that kind of lug design on old soviet watches

Heute auf Deutsch.

Hunde mögen nicht Frucht! Hunde mögen bumsen und schlafen.

>>15334936
>dumbie burger is only monolingual

>>15334960
i speak russian and english
you're on an english speaking website, have some respect

>>15334960
yes

5 identical pateks PHIST

>>15334936
Pourquois?
>>15334931

>>15334931
It's supposed to be a real tool watch for SAR folks riding around pic related.
Though I wonder who of those really is spending multiple k's on a watch.

I gotta say, I really dig German tool watch autism.
Sinn is especially good at it.
Like, a watch specifically for hunting?
Sign me up!

>>15335062
They actually "invented" an official standard for pilot watches, just like the standard for ISO divers.
Now that's what I call autism!

>>15335066
Or some toolwatch for firemen and other folks wearing a breathing aparatus.
Again, I doubt anyone that actually needs it is going to spend 2k+ on that watch, but you gotta admit their autism.

Watchmaker student anon here again.
AMA.

>>15335071
Or one for emergency medics and flying doctors and such with pulse measuring complications and timing for some important shit. Even took care to make it easily desinfectable.

>>15335076
Do you feel like your wasting your time studying such a useless thing?

Damasko goes hard with their bang for buck, putting all thier meme tech even in lower pieces, but their dial design is straight...shit. I could probably sit on the fence between the DS30 and 556A (dont like the "I" dial) for ages, waiting for a good price on either. I love the 556A dial, but I would probably still opt for the Damasko, seeing as Sinn are turbojews (500 bucks for a domed sapphire) and the comparable 856 goes for double the DS30.


>>15335076
I wanted some light reading about watch repair, I bought George Daniels Watchmaking, unknowingly. Damn, son, I liked geometry in school, but I could probably never get the hang of it. Do you have a specialization in mind?

>>15335056
all sar techs I know wear Gshocks or timex marathons

>>15335076
What career are you going to switch to now that all the boomers are dying off and zoomers almost exclusively wear apple watches/no watches?

>>15335141
Not really no. Horology is my passion and has been throughout my childhood.
>>15335147
Trust me when I was younger I never thought I'd be able to understand everything let alone fully disassemble a watch movement and put it back together. But all it takes is practise and repetition.
>>15335176
Do you really think the millionaires with their 100,000 dollar time pieces are suddenly going to switch to Smart Watches because they can't get their watches serviced? Very unlikely to happen as watchmaking is a growing industry.

The next motherfucker who splits the threads is going to get fucked in the ass by that guy who always posts his fake milgauss. I don't care about your squabbling, make one thread and make if fucking right. You're both retarded. RobotFood

>>15335062
I'll probably but one of these soon because I'm about to get my public forest hunter's license. Cost more than the watch so why not. It's an expensive hobby anyway.
And yes, this is Germany hence the many rules and procedures I had do comply by. Even had to do an afternoon of chainsaw certification because I wanted to go logging in public forests.

>>15335388
>88
>chainsaw certification
Ordnung muss sein.

>>15335147
> made by a turk
do not want

>>15335388
>Even had to do an afternoon of chainsaw certification because I wanted to go logging in public forests.
Can't really say too much about hunting, but for logging, this certification makes sense. A falling tree is about as deadly as a gun, so it makes sense that we only hand this to people who know what they're doing.
I mean, you wouldn't want every retard to buy a gun at the supermarket, that would just fuck up your country, so it's right to not let every retard fell a tree.
t. certified chainsaw operator (double certified actually, got the hobbyist one and the professional one)

I need another BOCTOK, but I'm not sure where to get it from (for Austria)
https://www.poljot24.de/ Really fast shipping and good customer service, but expensive and limited selection
https://www.maier-uhren.de/vostok/ Also uncomplicated, cheaper than poljot and I also already ordered from them, but small selection
https://www.vostok-watches24.com/ Huge selection, but comes from Russia, promises no extra taxes/tolls (same prices as maier, so believable), large selection
https://meranom.com/de/ Largest selection, directly from Russia, apparently legit, cheapest, hugest selection. But I'm worried about import taxes.
Anyone can help me decide? Really tempted by a Neptune, but those are sold out again, apart from puke green and blue (already got too many blue watches)

>>15335599
meranom
i'm in the uk and ordered a few over the years and never paid import duties

>>15334960
I speak 3 languages. None of them are German (though that's been on the list for a while). If you want to shitpost in German go do it in Facebook or something.

>>15335599
where are you seeing those neptunes in stock?

>>15335076
Very cool. What country are you in?

>>15335646
I don't. I misread. Like 60% of the 400 variants meranom lists isn't in stock, if you look closely. vostok-watches24 has a few, that are apparently technically neptunes, but not the ones that one would want. And maier also doesn't have anything good anymore. 4 years ago, that had literally hundreds of variants, but not anymore.
Guess it boils down to vostok-watches24 (who actually write that they cover taxes, should they accidentally happen, but they have a german bank account) which I don't know much about, or meranom.

>out of stock
FUCK

>>15335680
shit. That was also on my list.

>>15335680
what's the appeal here? looks like dog shit

>>15335701
it's got a wave on dial and it's get patina soon!

How much would you spend on a quartz watch?

>>15335722
no more than $200

>>15334923
Meddl Loide

>>15335722
As much as I would on an automatic watch. It's all about the looks.

>>15335680
JOMW did a list recently and that watch was on it, thats why. plus aliexpress sale

>>15335701
lume is pretty nice

theres a steel version with a different case design as well. Also sold out now

>>15335722
200...?for gshocks and the like

exception would be citizen ecodrive. I don't see myself buying other quartzes.

GS quartz is not included because that'll be a waste

>>15335705
holy heckin patina!

>>15335722
whatever I can get this for

>>15335705
does that..... smell?

>>15335722
200 for a regular 500 at a stretched max for something like a vintage IWC pilot chrono

The OceAnus is a meme going for how much it is.

so how come I can buy a vintage RADO watch for like 150 bucks, but new models are like 2 grand? Also why do Indians like them so much?

>>15335924
The new ones are going with the name heritage and ceramic meme, selling quartz watches with "scratchrpoof creamics with xy diamonds embedded" meme for 1200+

>>15335939
the vintage ones are mostly automatic though

what seiko is this?

anyone seen this before?

>yeah bro, check out this brand new Rado I just bought

>>15335969
You're gonna kick yourself when you see it - below the watch in this image it says "Seiko Ettore Sotsass" and Google came up with it

>>15336217
>Scotts ASS

>>15336018
oh brother I would bought a rado too but mister ALPHA M convinced me to buy all these MVMT watches they are beautiful just exquisite

>>15335969
Looks dope.
Those weird Seikos are always quite nice.

>>15337118
I'm not into sports watches.
I don't need a chronograph.
I hate ana-digi watches.
I still really really want that one.

>>15337128
Uh, OK. Why?
I'm into all those things you're not, so obviously, I want it (almost bought it, but the bezel doesn't turn, even though it looks like a timing bezel, which is important to me), but besides the functional aspects, it's got that fantastic, retro-futuristic vibes.
Pic related doesn't, but it seems really functional. Can someone please ID that one?

>>15334960
>you only speak the most common language in the world retard?
Nazis everybody...

>>15337235
Mandarin? Spanish?

>>15337235
its really anglocentric to expect everyone in the whole world to speak english but yet get triggered at a few lines of non english text

t. trilingual asian

>>15337134
>fantastic, retro-futuristic vibes
Exactly that.

>>15337134
Pyle Sport PSNKW30

>>15335969
I'm not into watches but I really like this one, looks futuristic but from 80s standpoint.
Too bad it's ~$3k.

>>15337325
>looks futuristic but from 80s standpoint.
just get a gshock square

please help
which one should I get? are diver's cringe?

>>15337397
Neither.
Out of those 2 though the Seiko OP homage is better looking.

>>15337406
>Neither.

:^(

>>15337397
i think divers are overdone and i dont like them personally.

but get what you like anon, its your money and you'll be wearing it.

both r ok but the one on the left is much nicer.

>>15337318
>Pyle Sport PSNKW30
Thanks. But it doesn't really explain very well how the diving bezel works with the digital display. Doesn't seem like it can do "analog" time on the display, so I'm confused.
also:
>dive watch with what seems actually useful functions for diving
>only 100m WR

>>15335722
the original seiko astron quartz probably 3-4k
any other quartz not more than $300. even the journe with the gimmicks isnt worth the retail price

>>15337397
the one on the left is a pussy repellent, the one on the right is a pussy magnet

the choice is obvious

Any pic related sort of watches that can actually hold time within a second or so per month?
I want slim, slick, and simple.

>>15334923
WTF mein Dad hat dieses Modell und der gibt sonst keinen Fick auf seine Erscheinung und trängt so Camp David level zeug

>>15337723
>the one on the left is a pussy repellent, the one on the right is a pussy magnet

This is my suspicion as well.The Seiko has a more feminine and classy feel to it, which emits a more confident and assuring vibe
The diver tries to pass an image of alpha and manliness and in the process reveals insecurity and "try hardness"

>>15337723
>pussy magnet
>Seiko

>>15337965
>der gibt sonst keinen Fick auf seine Erscheinung
Im Ernst? Woher kommst du denn?
But seriously, in which part of germany do you say
>gibt keinen fick
? Do you really use a backtranslated version of "don't give a fuck"? Never heard that anywhere.

>Camp David
Not an expert on that crap, but the things you see everyday seem to fight right with that watch. All that
>Expedition
>Sports
>Manly stuff
slogans, I can totally see how someone who thinks he has to show his manlyness with mall shit would also totally be into the DGZRS. But spending like 2k on a watch? That's weird.

Not too much into that specific watch (maybe its different on the wrist?), but other than that, Mühle has some really nice shit. What does /wt/ think about Mühle-Glashütte?

>>15338021
Obviously, they're kinda "famous" for their tool watches, but their dressy sportsters are growing on me!

Is a Vostok Milanaise worth the 10€ extra over their standard shitty bracelet?
Having an itch for a red watch, and that one seems like it'd scratch it.
Or are there any other, good, cheap, red watches?

>>15338145
Or maybe yet another blue watch. (out of stock, but I could just order the basic 710-yachtmaster and the bezel. But WTF are those numbers on it? Is that one of those decompression times bezels?

>>15335218
>>Do you really think the millionaires with their 100,000 dollar time pieces are suddenly going to switch to Smart Watches because they can't get their watches serviced? Very unlikely to happen as watchmaking is a growing industry.
Those millionaires are going to send their watches directly back to the company. Amateur watch repair is going to go the same way all electronics repair did, and the way phone and laptop repair is going now with Apple doing everything they can to cockblock repair shops.

You buy one of these 10-100 grand turds, and then you have to send it back to the factory to be restored like a Rolex because otherwise you won't get your good boy points and the certificate of authenticity will wear out.

You're entering a dying industry, the only reason to get into watchmaking is if you actually want to design autistic one-off pieces that do dumb shit like have birds come out of the crown every hour, and then sell them to some retarded millionaire with no taste.

>>15337962
Any of the waveceptor line, or any radio solar G-shock, the 5600/5610 squares being the best option.

>>15337103

>>15337397
the kamasu is superior in every single way desu
but buy the one your heart tells you to

are there any 40mm or smaller PVD watches?

>>15338145
depends how much you can get a milanese bracelet for on ebay/aliexpress

Someone recommend me a seiko diver with saphire crystal and 40-42mm size that is not discontinued

>>15338221
>>Those millionaires are going to send their watches directly back to the company. Amateur watch repair is going to go the same way all electronics repair did, and the way phone and laptop repair is going now with Apple doing everything they can to cockblock repair shops.
>
>You buy one of these 10-100 grand turds, and then you have to send it back to the factory to be restored like a Rolex because otherwise you won't get your good boy points and the certificate of authenticity will wear out.
>
>You're entering a dying industry, the only reason to get into watchmaking is if you actually want to design autistic one-off pieces that do dumb shit like have birds come out of the crown every hour, and then sell them to some retarded millionaire with no taste.
All true.

>look at new watches
>find nice design
>case - 40-44mm
>lug to lug - 44-46mm
It's all so tiresome.

99% of my watch purchases are vintage, just because people stopped making 36mm watches.

the pakistani chad watch

>>15338273
I have the opposite problem. 8 inch wrists and noting tasteful above 39 mm exists that isn't a chronograph. I already own dive watches so these are pretty much out of the question as well.

is there a reason why Orient watches are so hard to find? everything else besides their bambino line and a few other generic stuff is all hard af to track down or sold out

>>15338286
That dial makes me feel like I'm having a seizure.

>>15338286
try sakurawatches.com. They have tons of Japan only models of watches. It's wear I bought my Seiko Giugiaro "Ripley" a few years back.

>>15338286
Most of them are mainly available on the asian market and not sold to western distributors. Also half of the ones that you can't get easily in the west are skeleton shitters so it's no great loss.
This guy has the right idea.
>>15338297

>>15338277
>8 inch wrists
there are plenty of big dressy watches around. Nomos and grand seiko stuff

as soon as I tell myself I’m done with shitters I find this bad boy on a steep sale

>>15338257
Shitty milanese? Less than the 10€. Decent? More. Good? Don't know.
Thing is, I don't really want a milanese, but I'd like to try it out, so if it's decent, I'd be OK with it, even if it turns out I don't really like it, but if I have that nagging feeling I don't like it, because it's a shitty one, I'd rather go 10€ cheaper and get the shitty bracelet I already know.

>6.5in wrist
>all the divers that appeal to me are far too big
IT'S OVER

>>15338355
I'm glad I don't like divers, because I sure as shit couldn't wear anything bigger than an SKX013.

>>15338355
There's plenty of divers for smaller wrists and dont forget that they still look good when they are bigger and more rugged. What's your budget?

>>15338359
yeah I have a 420 case Amphibian and even that's a bit too big
My SXK013 and Christopher Ward C60 38mm are about the reasonable limit. I can push 40 if it's a decent watch but above that it's just a bit too big

>>15338362
>dont forget that they still look good when they are bigger and more rugged.
No, they don't. Stop listening to the salesmen at your watch shop, those dinnerplates do not look good on your wrist and you can't pull them off.

>>15337397
Green kamasu very nice

>>15338362
i bet you're one of those middle school asian kids that wears the biggest g-shock he could find

>>15337397
buy both since one's a diver and the other one is a dress watch

>>15335722
i'd get a tag heuer F1, but used, so around $700

>>15338371
>>15338376
t.insecure wristlets

>>15334923
gute Arbeit du Turbosören

>>15338362
£200 at most but I have to disagree with bigger divers looking good on small wrists
This is 38mm and i have 6.5 inch wrists
I really don't think i could pull off anything significantly bigger

>>15338349
This is amazing, would buy

>>15338402
I think you could pull 40-41mm but with short lugs

>>15338422
any recommendations?

>>15338422
He barely pulls that off, what are you smoking?

Is there a difference between an Orient EV0S005W and EV0S003W

Because it looks like the strap is the difference

>>15338437
you're out of your mind that watch fits fine

>>15338438
Yeah looks like the strap
I have one with a brown leather strap and it's a very very nice looking watch

I like how you autists worry so much about watch and wrist sizes meanwhile chad is walking around with this on wrist and gets all sluts

>>15338444
Why, does he knock them the fuck out with it?

Would I be an idiot to buy one of these? I feel like it could be the last watch I'll ever buy.

>>15338435
I dont know try watches with tiny lugs like on this flightmaster, experiment a little

>>15338463
no these are nice
personally I like the yellow more since it has more color

I quite like my BOCTOK. Acrylic domed crystal, arrowhead hour hand, date that ticks over at 23:56 and stays entirely still until then, protruding knob of a wobbly crown, +8s/d, all of it. Wish I'd known this half a year ago, could've saved like $200 blown on shitters since then.
>>15338463
It may be a good idea to try some other >$200 jappo watches before then. Such as an OceAnus, or Citizen's eco-drive GMT watch (which I can't remember if they even have one).

>>15338469
I'm deciding between that Grand Seiko or something completely different like this. What you think? They're a similar price initially but obviously the GS needs no servicing.

>>15338494
the way I see it is if you're considering between a rolex and non-rolex, you'll always regret the rolex because you know deep down you didn't want it for yourself. you wanted it because you felt like you should.
if you're only considering a rolex then get it.

>>15338502
I feel the opposite, if you're even considering a Rolex you're a dumb piece of shit who will never be happy with anything else, so you should just get the rolex.

>>15338402
I didn't mean bigger divers I meant that compact divers still look good on your smaller wrist even when they are a bit bigger than a classic 34 mm dress watch.
Citizen Promaster comes in a smaller size and the Steinshit Ocean one comes in 39 mm which is the smallest they do. SKX013 is a bit hard to get and everything else is much more expensive.

>>15338330
Not a big fan of Nomos but the Grand Seikos interest me. A spring drive GS might be my next purchse, I don't like most of the models in terms of aesthetic. They are autistically well made though.
Picrelated is a style I like of Grand Seiko.

>>15338515
look up the 2020 releases, they made some good design choices like getting rid of that stupid asymmetrical power indicator

>>15338521
Neat, might actually cop this. I'll take a look at their new releases then.

>>15338443
Just bought. It was kinda hard to find one but I managed to get a leather strap + metal strap for $159

say something nice about this $2m watch

Convince me not to buy the cwc sub hunter.
40mm (including the crown) with short 42mm lug to lug, screw down crown, screw on caseback, 200m water resistance. Easily replaceable eta quartz module. The only real issue it has are fixed lugs, put a single pass strap isn't as bulky as some double pass nato.

>>15338627
>Convince me not to buy the cwc sub hunter.
fuck off. if you want it then buy it. why do you care about other people's shitty opinions

>>15338635
Sometimes someone will reply to posts like that with some relevant information, like saying they have terrible QC or some issue with their construction so it can provide some helpful information. I don't really care if people think it's ugly.

>>15338620
Looks awesome

>>15338620
I can't tell if the clarity of the sapphire sucks or if it's just a terrible photo.
Found a slightly better photo. Goddamn who buys these things?

>>15338667
Footballers with more dollars than sense.

What's the best summer strap? I'm torn between

Perlon
2 piece NATO
Milanese mesh

Classic NATOs are for 8 year olds

>>15338679
Those are all great, it depends entirely on what watch you are putting it on.

>>15338679
Rubber, numbnuts.

>>15338691
I have an F91W for working out/field work (military), a Seiko for the office and a silver Guess I like the look of. Thinking perlon - mesh - nylon respectively

Speaking of straps what is better for taking a swim with a watch rubber or metal one?

>>15338709
He said summer straps, rubber is swampy af

>>15338021
I like this watch, and the 29er Zeigerdatum.

check out my brand new Richard Mortimer

>>15338810
RM-420 XDDDDD

>>15338810
>this cheap quartz pos will tell the time accurately +/- 1 second for decades to come whereas all these meme Seiko automatics can't even go a day without fucking up

If it wasn't for James Bond the watch industry would already be dead

do any countries other than Switzerland, Japan, China, and Russia make their own movement anymore?

>>15338816
quartz literally had one job

>you spend $1000 for an automatic Junghans Max Bill only to scratch to shit the fucking plexiglass crystal that protrudes a whole centimeter from the case
why do people buy these things and why do I still want one

>>15338833
>not getting the Max Bill Chronoscope
I feel ya anon.

>>15338839
too expensive :^(

>>15338833
>made in 30s germany
hmmm

Thoughts on Swatch? This is the pope's watch

>>15338903
why do people keep saying "this is the pope's watch?" what does the pope know about watches? the pope is a faggot anyway.
swatch is overpriced shit for women and up until the apple watch it was the definition of mass-market self-expression, an inherently pathetic concept.

>>15338903
the pope wear a casio analog

>>15338833
>buying the auto and not the handwinding version

>>15338910
only 34mm though

>>15338908

>>15338903
That watch looks so nice in pics but i feel ike it would look completely generic in person

>>15338833
Plexiglass can be easily polished at home and scratches will dissapear. But there is no excuse for having plastic instead of domed sapphire in a 1000 dollar watch. Fucking jews and their bauhaus BS scam.

>>15338924
>>15338912
you can just get the quartz version. No one buys this watch for the movement, anyways.

>>15338903

i much prefer the steve jobs watch

FUCK GERMAN WATCHES
LOWER YOUR PRICES

>>15338909
The pope is part of the casio gang,based and quartzpilled.

>>15338912
34mm is enough, the design is vintage, there is no need to make it a dinner plate because the actual trend is wearing oversized watches that covers the entire wrist width.That's my many modern reissues are pure shit, the original being 34-38mm and the new model is 40-44.

check out my casio b a u h a u s

Anyone got recs for a watch in the $400-$500 range? (or one of those pic guides lacking that for some to check out)
Probably something you can use anywhere so casual verging on dress I guess. Maybe a divers if there's a snazzy one but I usually hate the dials & hands on those.
Auto or Quartz.
Priorities are looks first and secondary toughness. (read: something I can still be using ten years from now)
And preferably something you can still get from retailers and/or get serviced since I dunno about the secondhand market here.

>>15338940
seiko presage, orient

>>15338940
just get a Hamilton Khaki auto, black dial

This looks tough.

Need 5 Gs though...

>>15338927
Agreed. Quartz makes sense in a watch that is mostly liked because of the dial. Still, plexi is not acceptable. They can buy the fucking sapphire for a few bucks. It's not hard or pricey to produce.

>>15338929
For about 8 bucks you can have all the steve jobs but without the fanboy aids.
>>15338939
I love how casio shits all over bauhaus söyböys. They are pretentious cucks anyway. If their baucuck crap were cheap, they would not want. They want high priced crap to discreetely flex wealth, disguised as artistic.

>>15338960
slides right under the chuff, ok chao

>>15338675
Or muslim Kings with shit taste.

>>15338956
god I hate the germans

is there a better value currently on the market? can be had for ~10k

>>15338667
>Goddamn who buys these things?

Money launderers who want to move big stacks over international borders.
Ever wondered why the prices are not dropping? The maker is in on it and the dealers selling them also help by not lowering prices. They get a cut from the laundering. It's also limited to protect the fake worth of these crap watches.

>>15338970
>is there a better value currently on the market?
>10k watch

>>15338970
>is there a better value currently on the market?
A G-Shock 5610

>>15338942
Any particular ones? Seems like a huge range.
>>15338945
Looks pretty nice. First vibe I got was generic-but-competent but looking at it more it's kinda growing on me and I can see how you can use it in every situation.

>>15338976
>>15338979
>ITT poor manchildren
if you wear a G-shock in public (excluding outdoor activities) past the age of 18 you should be embarrassed

>>15338970
Looks generic.
>value
(((luxury))) watches are a nice scheme to milk the clueless, upper middle class. And it works pretty nicely.

>>15338980
just look up seiko presage and find models you like and then find them for the best price

>>15338983
Cope harder, chink manlet.

>>15338987
Here comes Autistic Andy to defend the giant chunk of plastic that takes over his wrist and looks like it's from a happy meal box

>tfw collection of sub 500$ shitters, watch for every occasion and lots of variety
feels good man

>>15338990
Nah, you were the one that jumped to soiboy-shock. They are too big and look like shit sometimes.
I'm just casually making fun of people that fall for the mountain jew luxury watch scheme. You deserve it.
Shouldn't you be at a rolex AD, bending down to get on a waitlist for some steel shitter? lmao.

Any respectable watches under 400 that look something like this? Love this face

>>15339009
Keep it anon; as far as mall watches go Guess is alright. They're light years ahead of MK, Armani, Swatch etc

>>15339009
SARB043
can also look into cheaper tissot or longines dress watches

>>15339016
>Swatch
I have bad news about your Omega Speedmaster

>>15338983
You know, poor people really know what value is.

For example, you pay 10k for that and what do you have.No day?,probably a shit water resistance?. A cheap casio royale has even more than that for just a few coins.And if you are a whorology guy, then some cheaper mechanical watches offer more than that for just a 5%-10% of that price.

>>15339026
>no day
yikes, guess being poor leads to poor observation skills
>then some cheaper mechanical watches offer more than that for just a 5%-10% of that price.
please link me any watch 500-1000 that matches the quality of a VC overseas in terms of finishing, design, etc..

>>15339032
post what youre wearing right ow, rich man

>>15339034
you are too poor to handle even looking at my watch, it's not worth my time

>>15339023
Guess is owned by Timex

Timex > Swatch ainec

>>15339034
when did I say I'm rich? I'm probably "poor" in the standard sense but I still understand what you get by moving up in price brackets
>>15339038
not me

Why haven;t you bought a Cadisen yet, anon? Perhaps a 1963 chronograph?

>>15338970

it is sure as hell better than anything Rolex or Omega have to offer at that price.

>>15339044
so then what do you wear if you think everything below a VC is a waste of money

You have to realize that the entire luxury watch enthusiast community runs on cope

>>15339049
>if you think everything below a VC is a waste of money
anon, I think you might need reading comprehension lessons. please point out where I said anything remotely of the sort

>it’s the anything above an F91W is a scam debate again

BASED. love seeing it happen every 5 seconds.

>>15339056
Someone please post the "Massive gulf between $500 and 5k" chart.

>>15339054
WHAT DO YOU WEAR

>>15339061
I wear an omega PO and occasionally some soviet shitters. what's your point?

>>15338991

very nice, variety is the spice of life anon.

and he who controls the spice controls the universe.

>>15339009
How about this Longines?

>>15339076
liar

>>15339082
happy?

>>15339082
>>15339093
He got you anon, be a man about it.

>>15339093
no, but satisfied.

>>15339059

>>15334923

>>15339111
ha ha i hate this

>>15339032
>yikes, guess being poor leads to poor observation skills
I guess being rich leads to poor IQ, that watch has DATE,not day.

>>15339032
>please link me any watch 500-1000 that matches the quality of a VC overseas in terms of finishing, design, etc..
Finishing does not add real value its mostly cosmetic

and the design on that watch is not a big deal, looks pretty generic,a 500eur max bill has a better design,come on, even it has ''automatic'' on the dial,thats tasteless as fuck.

I am done with automatics at the moment but I still wanna wear something cool. Any good recs for HAQs? Maybe something like 10s/y. No GS as my budget is $500.

>>15339124
>Finishing does not add real value its mostly cosmetic
yeah dude this original painting and the print are of equal value.
how about materials? craftsmanship? I noticed you didn't link any 500-1000 watches that beat the overseas in this aspect.
notice how I retracted what I said about design.
>invoking IQ into an argument
my bad, I'll try to spell out what I'm saying more clearly since you're obviously retarded

>>15339124
>Finishing does not add real value its mostly cosmetic

Who types this out, reads it back, and still goes "Yeah, that makes sense!"???

>>15339080
This is bang on anon, thank you

Ive got fucking woman wrists, whats a good 35mm watch for around £100, i can find barely any that isnt just some cheap chinese shit

How do I go about making a microbrand, I just wanna buy some 4r36s and get the rest of the watch pieces custom from china and sell them cheap, not interested in making a profit just wanna have fun

Just like, a mark xi watch in 34mm, some shit like that.

Kill yourself

>>15339111
Thanks killer

>>15339151
t. 6 inch wrist

>>15338435
Give a seiko mink turtle a try. Looks weird but I like it and I think the lug 2 lug is like 43 mm or something

>>15339102
>>15339082

Dude you seriously had this much doubt about someone owning a Planet Ocean?

>>15339138
>how about materials? craftsmanship?
Yes, that adds value, but I don't think that watch manufacture cost is close to 10k, probably even less than 3k.

>I noticed you didn't link any 500-1000 watches that beat the overseas in this aspect.

Pic related, utilitarian design,day,DATE, legible as fuck,ar coated,good lume and it does not require propietary straps or bracelets.


>>15339138
>>invoking IQ into an argument
>my bad, I'll try to spell out what I'm saying more clearly since you're obviously retarded
Yeah, now you were in the wrong lets call me retarded even when you apparently don't know the diffference between day and date.


>>15339140
An example,old rolex were ''cheap'', now they are luxury goods.Speedy used to cost around 2k years ago, now its on the 5-6k range and the watch is the same.There is value and then perceived value.That's why if you step out of the utilitarian price range, you enter into the luxury one when the value isn't objective and you will pay more for less.>>15339138

>>15339127

if you are willing to go up a little bit you can get this little guy (Seiko SBCM023) for $580 on ebay right now.

it is a high accuracy quartz with a perpetual calendar in the body of an skx which means it might be ISO rated as well, though not sure.

>>15339187
>cheaper materials
>no human craftsmanship
thanks for attaching a watch that meets 0 of the criteria I listed, I'm now really thinking you don't know how to read

also I'm astonished at your ability to assign a concrete number to the value of human labor, especially in a highly-specialized field.

>>15339201
what's the point of a perpetual calendar that doesn't display the month?

>>15339032
>over 10k watch
>missaligned date window
>muh design

>>15339209

not having to change the date whenever the month of February decides to add and subtract the number of days it has

>>15338823
Germany

>>15338924
They use plexi because the whole idea is that it’s vintage inspired. Same reason they use plexi on the moonwatch.

>>15338823

America has RGM, but RGM watches are ugly as sinn.

>>15339201
I just looked up the movement and it's very interesting. Why did seiko stop making them?

>>15339032
>please link me any watch 500-1000 that matches the quality of a VC overseas in terms of finishing, design, etc..
Closest I think you could get is a Habring Felix at ~$5k, probably. Nothing else sub $5k will have the movement finishing to be remotely competitive with a VC in terms of both external finishing and movement finishing.

>>15339032
>please link me any watch 500-1000 that matches the quality of a VC overseas in terms of finishing, design, etc..
Closest I think you could get is a Habring Felix at ~$5k, probably. Nothing else sub $5k will simultaneously have the movement finishing and external finishing to be remotely competitive with a VC, I don't think.

>>15338679
>Classic NATOs are for 8 year olds
Please do elaborate.

>>15339056
IT really is the best feature of /wt/.
Second only to the
>You absolutely must have a Rolex or else you are a failure
discussion. Really gives me that warm and cozy feeling.

>>15334930
Damn, I want the tangente neomatik, it's so sleek and efficient. It's sexy like a sensible car with great gas mileage or a flat with a reasonable cost per square meter ratio.

>>15339341
I only listed this price range because of the original claim
>And if you are a whorology guy, then some cheaper mechanical watches offer more than that for just a 5%-10% of that price.

>>15339428
I tried on a nomos metro and holy FUCK the lugs extend into the next century

Kill yourself

>>15339428
>>15339434
I love the dials and (most of) the cases on nomos watches but the minimatik is the only one with sensible lugs and proportions.

>>15339463
>>15339434
also theyre much thicker than they look in photos. maybe because the case is so box-like

>>15339111
>>15339119
>>15339156
who is the guy with glasses on the DOGSHIT range?

>>15339498
john or hank green, I don't know the difference

>>15339111
>Grand Seiko
>$1000
Wat

>>15338908
bad take and anti-pope, repent

>>15338908
this desu

at least the dalai lama is extremely interested in watches
but what does the pope know about them

Is anyone else here a quartzCHAD? I've never owned a mechanical piece of shit, and I never will.

>>15338679
Nato, obviously. What's not to like?

>>15339526
proud his/his couple's quartz chads reporting in

>>15338679
>2 piece NATO
>literally removing the entire purpose of having a NATO in the first place

kys

>>15339526
battery bitch

>>15338679
classic natos are actually very good for vintage watches because theres a layer of fabric between the watch and skin. No sweat to risk damaging the watch and less chunky than a bund strap.

>>15338998
>mountain jew luxury watch scheme
>bending down at the Rolex AD
You sound pretty bitter, were you rejected from joining the "steel shitter" list?

>>15339538
Ah yes, the 10 year batteries that can be replaced in 5 minutes for a dollar are much worse than having to pay hundreds of dollars to have your watch serviced every decade so it doesn't implode or lose an hour a day.

>>15339563
>he thinks quartz watches dont fail
>he thinks circuitboards last forever
>he has never heard of battery leakage and corrosion

a mechanical gives you signs that it needs getting looked at. A quartz just dies on you one day and you'll be SOL if its a old model no longer on production. Nobody can repair it unless you find spare parts or just buy a brand new watch.

>>15339580
Battery corrosion only really happens when you leave a battery in a watch in a cupboard for a few decades. Circuit boards effectively last forever without external damage, and the parts on them are all very simple and rated to last decades.

You see a few examples of 50 year old mechanicals that have been constantly serviced by loving owners and only taken out for special occasions, and you think your hundred dollar shitter is going to be an heirloom for your kids. It's not, and you're putting up with having to set the time every day or every week because you think vinyl looks better than a CD.

>>15339583
t. earlet

vinyl sounds warmer than a CD

the mechanical can always be repaired, even if its a $100 shitter. There are many videos of ppl repairing rusty 50 yo vintage watches that have been sitting in shit somewhere.

>putting up with having the set the time
Why do you hate interacting with your watch? are you the type of person to get a dog and be annoyed that you have to walk it? its an enjoyment to wind or set an mechanical watch and knowing that its only alive because of you.

>>15339111
>>15339056

>>15339580
Most quartz watches made today have an eta or ronda or japanese movement that has been made in the millions and even 20 years from now you will be able to have a watchmaker (if any still exist) just completely replace the movement with a brand new one for $60.

Watchmaker anon are you still here? Educate me on guilloche dial. Can you really tell the difference between handlathed vs stamped guilloche without a loupe?

>>15339592
>completely replace the movement
so its no longer the same watch.There is no emotional value there. Yikes

>>15339595
It's already quartz, it never had a soul in the first place.

>>15339589
>There are many videos of ppl repairing rusty 50 yo vintage watches that have been sitting in shit somewhere.
And there are videos of people putting new batteries in 50 year old quartz watches and seeing them spring to life, because there isn't much that can go wrong with one.

>>Why do you hate interacting with your watch?
Why do you hate owning a watch that does what a watch is supposed to do, which is tell the time? Owning a watch that YOU have to tell the time to every day feels like absolute madness to me. Imagine if you owned a screwdriver that you had to screw together every time you wanted to use it.

>>15335599
http://vostok-komandirskie.com/ Is from spain, but I haven’t ordered there yet

>>15339598
a watch is a tool, and all good tools need maintenance. Knives have to be sharpened, boots have to be polished, jackets have to be mended, guns have to be taken apart and cleaned.

Owning something is a mutual relationship. You take care of it and it'll give you enjoyment. Setting the time is not even a annoyance at all. Quartz is soulless.

>>15339428
>It's sexy like a sensible car with great gas mileage or a flat with a reasonable cost per square meter ratio.
Kek. That’s a very German way to compliment. But I do agree.
T. German
——————————

I need a few nato/Zulu and/or RAF straps. Already got some 1€ natos from AliExpress and they’re totally worth their money, but at 1€, that means they’re not worth a lot, so I’m looking at an upgrade. Any recommendations?
Also, I want some with “fun” prints for ironic reasons. Like a Hawaii shirt on my wrist. But most prints are either girly shit or camo and both I don’t want.

>>15339602
I agree with you. A knife that has to be sharpened once every month is a great knife. A knife that has to be sharpened every time you use it is a shitty knife.

The "maintenance" on a mechanical is sending it off to be serviced, not the daily time setting that you have somehow convinced yourself is the true measure of a watch to try and cope with owning outdated tech.

>>15339607
Look at the recommended strap stores in the pastebin in the op.

>>15339608
>exaggeration

you dont need to set the time everytime you wear a mechanical unless you are an autist that NEEDS it to be 110% accurate.

Quartz watches need setting also. For example Casio states that their entry lvl quartz is +-15s per month. For automatics there are auto winders that you can buy for $30 on AE if you are lazy to shake it.

>old tech is bad
quartz itself is outdated. Why dont you wear an apple watch?

>>15339045
>1963
Thicc

>Cadisen
Shit dial design, but still better than PP

>>15339613
They’re mostly US focused and rather expensive. I get why a good leather strap costs a lot, but for a nato, it can’t be that much more than 1€.

>>15339580
>What is an EOL indicator

>>15339614
>>quartz itself is outdated. Why dont you wear an apple watch?
Right now I'm wearing the last good smartwatch, a Timex data link USB. I can set the time by plugging it in while it's still on my wrist, it has a fully programmable dot matrix display with a custom dual time digital watch face (the only watch I've ever found with this ability), and it has a battery life of 2 fucking years versus the half a day you'll get in an Apple watch.

Taking off your watch and putting it in a dock every night is, in many respects, even worse than having to put your auto in a rotating prison. The few "smartwatches" with battery life that manages to last more than a week can only actually do so if you're not using a screen that updates every second, which makes them effectively worthless for anything other than a general overview of the current time.

If they start making smartwatches with decent features, maybe I'll buy one. The new GBX-100s look promising. But a shitty cut-down phone on my wrist? No thanks.

>>15338909
He wears both, in some pics you can just make out the rectangular date magnifier.
>>15338921
It looks fine but its 34mm so it wears very small, it also uses a ridiculously loud non hacking quartz movement.

>>15339614
Not that anon, but I prefer utility over muh soul. Yes, I do have automatics, but I much prefer my quartzes on the basis of pick and wear (adjust date at the max).
Im not into smart watches, and charging one daily is at any rate entirely against the point I wrote above. Autos only make sense to me with PR 72h+, but then the price ranges fly higher and it is just not worth it for me, cant wear a watch at work anyway, so they inevitably run down, and having a screw-down crown on them is even more shitty.

>>15339631
34mm is actually around the correct size for watches for most men. Funny how standards shift so much in <100 years.

>>15339621
Cheap nato straps has a pretty big selection, the funky graphic prints you are interested in and are $9 to $15. There is basically going to be no difference between a $1 nato and a $5 nato. You should look at https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections/cwc-nato-watch-straps
They are a little more expensive but they are based in Europe and they are the real deal military issue nato straps if you care about that kind of thing.

>>15338955
That vertically striated slate dial just sends me.

A better version is this SBGH279.
Wish it were a spring drive though (without the power reserve on the dial of course).

>>15339671
>bothered about the power reserve
>not bothered about the date or the large size (>40mm)

where do you draw the line

>>15339683
What's wrong with the date?

And the watch is exactly 40mm, but wears smaller.

>Thread filled with nasty fucking shitters again.
Post some nice Casios for a change phaggots

>>15339687
muh symmetry

>>15339705
beautiful casios you say?

>>15339705
>nice Casios
That's a pleonasm.

What's the best site for the latest news on luxury watches?

Is it Hodinkee or something?

>>15339635
I prefer more classically sized watches, but I think 36mm is the sweet spot for a man's watch. Divers it's around 40mm in my opinion.

>>15339705

>>15339769
Archieluxury channel on YouTube

>>15334923
Without looking, I unfortunately bet there is only 1 Swatch posted in this 200+ pig iron trinket display. Shame, really.

>>15339804
>Swatch
Swatch s the attempt of failing Swiss watch makers to catch up following the quartz crisis.

>>15338908
based and protestantpilled

>>15339804
>he thinks swatches are worth anything
>my sides

swatches are mass produced plastic fashion shit solely created to save the swiss from japanese quartz. They are not for actual serious consideration. There are some fun funky swatches like the jellyfishes but everything else is shit, especially sistem51

>>15339045
Have a 1963
very nice watch

>>15339153
have a look on alibaba for companies that will do custom text and logos on watches then dropship them

>>15339812
'swatch, innit, m8y m8

>>15339111
the managing director of my company has a moonphase Patek
shame he's a monumental cunt because otherwise I'd tell him he has a very nice watch

>>15339818
a further rant on sistem 51

imagine a mechanical watch with plastic components inside (that will inevitably get brittle and fail), a mechanical watch that you cannot regulate or service, and has straps that you cannot change out due to the non proprietary lugs, sold at prices where you can get respectable entry workhorses from other brands with many times the history and heritage but with none of the failings above. There is no point in it, it goes against all of the ideas of mechanical. If sistem51 was chinese/japanese it would have been rightfully mocked as cheap shit and ripped to shreds by everyone, but it only gets a pass because its "muh swiss made"

>>15339500
I know it's John Green because I instantly felt angry upon seeing him.

>>15339837
they also put sistem51 in tissots now and sell it for 600 dollars
and people call it amazing and innovative technology

>>15339840
Why?
Are you a woman that let's emotions control herself?

>>15339845
The opposite in fact. All of my facilities are so well tuned and mastered that I quickly and accurately identified an enemy.

>>15339705
Why does this watch remind me of body odor?

>>15339882
it's the gold

>>15339841
Do the Swiss really?

Watching a video of some of our heroes maintaining the fabric of society and noticed one was wearing a Casio. I'm sure the waterproof nature of the watch also makes it blood proof as blood is famously thicker than water.

>>15339908
unless you take blood thinners

Why are there no good looking cheap compressor watches bros

>>15339908
>bull bars
Yikes

>>15339976
>something being used for a real function in a rough job is yikes
t. fat neet in an roller chair

>>15339966
thats a nice looking watch

Beast

>>15339432
I know, but I thought the question of 'what is the cheapest watch you can buy with somewhat VC tier external and movement finishing' was an interesting one, so I thought about it and that Habring was the best I could come up with.

>>15339501
Grand Seiko entry level quartz models used to be well under $2k several years ago. Now the cheapest models are just about $2k on the nose.

>>15340059
>>15340059
>>15340059
>>15340059

>>15340026
take a better picture

Seiko actually sells an automatic piece they call a 'military' watch

>fall out of sync with your section every day
>have anxiety attack when you scratch the case on a tree
>someone bumps it with their rifle, lose 40 seconds a day forevermore
>can't set alarm or timer
>have to bug your exhausted quartz-wearing buddies to reset your time every night

The military is the land of $20 sports watches, shit actually works

>>15340081
Tldr snk is a larpers watch

>>15339882
because thirdworlders are the biggest wearers of watches like that. still kino

Got this coming for me which is noice

>>15340081
>>15340083
Any mechanical "field" or "military" watch is for larp, except maybe tutima or Sinn.

>>15340261
Go back to the 70s and you really would have liked a tudor or rolex for millitairy use, back when they were cheap and durable

>>15340180
Cool, I've got one of these on the way. Fuck knows when it'll arrive though.

>>15340483
nice colours, which model

>>15339845

Are you a pussy who fears feeling anything because you know once your walls come down the only emotion youll feel is sadness at your pathetic excuse for a life?

>>15340885
It's the Neptune SE 960726

>>15338903
>caring what tasteless modernist liberals LARPing as Catholics think

>>15340483
I should have brought one when I had the chance. I posted in the thread to tell people they were in stock but didn't get one for myself.

>>15341255
>should have brought one
*bought
Also that's pretty dumb, you guaranteed that they would all go. Thanks though.

>>15341258
Sure, pls post a mini review and some pictures when it comes in.

>>15341325
Okay, in about 6 months probably.

>>15338823
The french. Yema has an in house movement.

Christorpher ward have their own movement. Not sure if I would call it english, though.
Plenty of Germans do.

>>15338945
hard to go wrong for that price.