/fa/ - Fashion

>Laco's cheapest automatic flieger watch is a $350+ Miyota mineral crystal shitter
Nothing wrong with Miyota and mineral crystal but...
How the FUCK do they justify this when you can go on fucking AliExpress and buy a flieger watch with a SAPPHIRE crystal, SEIKO movement that hacks, and is 200m water resistant for 86 fucking bucks???
Goddammit I am seething.

>>15303985
On a related note, how come every shit fake and Chinese homage watch that costs 100 dollars comes with sapphire crystal but you can't even get that on a Seiko unless yous spend $500+?

>>15303989
Seiko etc. may have some pixie dust antireflective coatings on the underside, or something. Chink sapphire on shitters is certainly not as oleophobic as the glass on a chink smartphone. But I dunno, Seiko also gets murdered on the bracelet front. Maybe chinkshit is just priced for chinese markets.

>>15303989
The sapphire on Chinese watches isn't as hard as it is on reputable watch brands. Is it different enough to make a difference? I don't know.
With seiko they keep the prices on sapphire watches artificially high to encourage you to buy the next tier up of watch. At least they usually also have better movements and nicer finishing and dials on those models as well. So you aren't just paying an extra $200-$500 just for sapphire.

>>15304027
>The sapphire on Chinese watches isn't as hard as it is on reputable watch brands.
what.

>>15304044
Yes, not all sapphire is created equal.

bro you can buy miyota 9015 mov't watches on aliexpress for like 100 dollars during a sale, there is really no excuse for these other brands

>>15304045
um.

>>15304047
Not all sapphire is exactly the same quality, how many times do you want it said to you?

>>15304045
I used a diamond meter on my a casiden aliexpress shitter and it measures the same as my hamilton khaki

>>15304050
You mean hamilton shitter and god tier cadisen.

>>15304072
based and correct

I bought a vintage Athlon digital watch.
Has chronograph, 1 alarm, a little loldschool amber lightbulb that has given almost all it has to give by now, and its special feature is it plays the Nebraska University Fight Song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT3nNOFffbA&t=22s

>>15304093
The papers that came with the watch.
Amazing how these things are considered retro super shitters but back in the day it was a complex piece of cutting edge technology.
>Many people think a digital watch is a complicated, mysterious electronic marvel which only engineers can use...

>>15304096
The first digital watches cost more than a Rolex at the time.
Fast forward to 2020 and Hamilton/Pulsar is remaking them and charging a grand for worthless, mass produced technology

>>15304093
that is fucking nice. i bought something similar

>>15304093
>>15304096
How much did it cost you bb?

>>15304102
Quartz really is an amazing technology. To think that we can shoot electricity through a crystal in order to make it vibrate tens of thousands of times and then measure those vibrations in order to tick down a single second. How great is that? Shame that such a technology is now maligned because of the machinations of marketing shills.
>>15304103
Post it when it comes in, these old digitals have a lot of charm.
>>15304109
About $30

Reminder that the Chinese will completely overtake the watch market by 2040.
Buy your Seagull and SKMEI now before they become a luxury watch brand.

You guys like my Rolex?

>>15304141
>someone actually got a family guy tattoo

>>15304115
Quartz isn't an amazing technology today. It's like saying vacuum tubes makes for a great PC.

>>15304141
What the fuck is that on your leg, Anon?

>>15304141
Oh dear me. Oh boy.

Can I get a daily watch around 500CAD recommendation? I would love a dress watch but have no reason to wear one but if something can bridge the gap that would be good. Preferably leather strap, automatic.
Don't know my wrist size only watches I currently own are pic related SRPD61 and a fw91 I wear at the gym or for yard work.

>>15304183
On wrist to get an idea of wrist size

>>15303985
Laco owners are jes, all their watches are overpriced, they know people love their fliegers and they milk them while they can. Their design is really nice, but hte movements are just average workhorse movements.

We thin boys now

>>15304141
That's a pretty good rep, where did you get it?

>>15304153
springs and gears aren't amazing technologies either

>>15303966
I wanted these when they first came out.

All the watch forums said it didn't exist and that those polo watches didn't have Piaget movements lol

>>15304183
Cadisen on AliExpress, seagull 1963 chronograph either the seagull one or one from hked. Pilot watch from san martin.

>>15304205
Family Guy Live Stream HD 24/7 - Family Guy Full Episode #FamilyGuy

>>15304206
> woosh

>>15304183
get an orient bambino on amazon

>>15304201
>46mm diameter
>no running seconds
No thanks.

>>15304213
>>15304183
Here is the san martin pilot watch, they do a bunch of different dials for it. Sapphire, nh-35 movement, ~$150 usd

>>15304249
Laco BTFO

okay, once I get my amphibia I’m done with that shitter stuff for good, anons...until that classica comes back in stock that is

>>15304264
Based g shock

>>15304141
You got that from r/watches, huh?

>>15304183
>>15304194
That's a nice looking seiko

>>15304290
Looks cartoonish irl

Huge hands huge indices

>>15304253
They sell ones with sellita s-200 movements for as little as $350 as well, but only in brass and bronze for some reason oh and also in this 42mm version with an onion crown. But I'm not a big fan of onion crowns.

>>15304183
Sarb...

>>15304324
those things are like 700$ in Canada now

>>15304328
They're a little over 500 CAD but not 700$

>>15304318
onion crown is more "historically accurate" though, if you want something that looks authentic

>>15304341
SARBs are a good deal at $350, they aren't really worth $500. Lots of complaints about the reliability of 6r15 movements and they are pretty much impossible to buy in north America with a warranty.

Thoughts

Trying to find a steel case version

what is a watch that will impress the ladies

>>15304364
?

>>15304352
Yeah i know it's more historically accurate, it just doesn't do it for me. I guess it would be nice on a hand winding watch.

>>15304365
I hate to break it to you Anon, but real women aren't impressed by watches.

w2c?

>>15304213
The seagull Chrono with blue hands and the San martin both look great. Do I have to buy them straight from the company or is there a better place?
>>15304232
I've had one in my Amazon cart for forever but I never end up buying it
>>15304324
>>15304353
If they were cheaper I would but if I'm gonna spend 6-700 on a nice seiko might as well wait a little and buy a baby snowflake

>>15304398
>seagull Chrono
go on aliexpress and search '1963'.

It is irresponsible to jog with an automatic mechanical diver?

>>15304153
but the bulova accutron was awesome as fuck,not only the technology was interesting and aesthetic that humming was really nice too.

>>15304410
personally unless the watch has shock absorb i wouldnt do it.

i used to be quite an avid jogger (before my left knee started to pop) and i've read that during running whenever your feet hits the ground the force is equivalent to several times your body weight for a split second.

of course a watch is not on the impact point but all those jolts over a long time cant be good for a mechanical

>>15304435
tuning forks good

>>15304435
So what? A single oddity doesn't somehow make all other quartz watches high-tech or interesting.

>>15304446
But they are high tech and interesting

>>15304398
The seagull chrono you can get from the official seagull aliExpress store. Or you can search hked and get it from that website.
San martin has a website and an official AliExpress store. I'm not sure which is cheaper.

>>15304446
what

>>15304440
Follow up question: is Seiko Diashock worth a fuck?

>>15304451
The 1963 from the official Seagull ali-express store is expensive as fuck. You can get an exact "copy" for half the price. They're all virtually the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_standard_movement

>>15304398
There is an "offical" 1963 made by seagull that is about $400 usd. It has slightly better finishing maybe and it comes straight from the seagull factory. The hked and other 1963 chronos are made in other factories but have the same seagull chronograph movement from the same factory inside.

Hold the watch you're currently wearing up to your ear and listen to the sound of the movement for at least 30 seconds RIGHT NOW. Feel better?

>>15304458
That's why I told him to go to hked. And they aren't all the same. The one from sea-gull really is nicer. I have seen some sloppy ones from random AliExpress stores with shims visible all around the dial. But the hked ones seem fine.

>>15304440
essentially all watches after the 1950s have shock protection

>>15304457
It's about the same as any other shock protection

>>15304464
the clunky, metallic, hilarious sound of the vintage timex movement of this Marlin fills my vascularly stressed American heart with pride. And supposedly you can service these bad boys with removing a few pieces and soaking the mofo in lighter fluid

>>15304398
>seagull 1963
those watches are beautifully charming but theres something you have to know about them

Due to past circumstances most 1963s you see on the market are licensed/unlicensed/clones. Its quite a murky zone

Seagull themselves now make their own 1963 out of their tianjin factory but those cost a fair bit more than the previous unofficial watches mentioned. (Like $450 vs $180). They have an official aliexpress store. Theres even a new limited edition 'plan B' 1962 (not 63) seagull on offer.

The real seagulls have a number on the back. And they come purely with acrylic and not sapphire. They also do not have a display caseback.

The non official 1963s come in a range of colour, sizes (38mm to 42mm), with a choice of sapphire or acrylic, normal display back, extra large display back, or no display back. All this at a lower price.

So it depends on do you want the "'real deal"" or not. Maybe it can be argued that does it really matter? its still a ST19 and made in the same country.

JOMW has a good video on the whole matter
https://youtu.be/dFLqBdcbhkc

>>15304481
Keep listening; it will bring you inner peace!

>>15304487
>Chinese brands now use heritage and prestige to artificially raise the price of their watches
learning well from their Swiss brethren, I see

>>15304501
it's a meme watch, so you can't blame them

>>15304372
>>15304364
How much is it?

stop
right now
post your favorite richard mille model
even if you hate the brand you have a model that you'd take "if you had to pick a richard mille"
for me, it's the kimi

>>15304495
>>15304273
I’m gettin some based good vibes in this thread. Thanks anons.
feel free too break the chain and insult my beautiful shitters

>>15304550
i thought they only had one model

>>15304559
*to, goddamn it how did that happen

>>15304561
wrong
they also make a wall clock
any /Québecois/ here?

did cavemen wear watches

>>15304440
>>15304470
Good advice thanks bros

>>15304578
They wore wrist-sundials.

>>15304578

Grug look at sun. Grug internal clock also accurate.

>>15304550
why, it has to be the Richard Mille 'Jackie Chan' Tourbillon, of course!

saw one listed before at 2.1 million

>>15304578

How much of a fax paus is it to wear a suede leather strap in the summer? Will my friends laugh me out the Hotel pool resort?

>>15304592
I've visited the richard mille boutique in vegas. I honestly can't see what these watches provide besides a pissing booth for the ultra-rich.
I like most of the RM aesthetics, and really really like some of the models. but seeing them in person I had the actual feeling that they were fake and looked like toys. which is not what the brand needs to convey

>>15304585
where to cop ?

>>15304595
>Not wearing a diver for optimal aquatic shenanigans

>>15304595
suede leather is the best summer leather imo. just don't wear it above 32c or 90f.
you should have a NATO strap reserved for these temperatures, more for you than for looks.

>>15304487
Sea-gull makes both acrylic and sapphire versions, they are both up on their official AliExpress store.
The acrylic lens version is still better.

>>15304572
>All those fake gears
Disgusting

>>15304595
>sweating into suede
i have a bad feeling about it

>>15304141
>rolex
>tattoo of peter griffin in a gold frame
back in my day it was having one ear pierced and rainbow themed accessories, but I guess things change over generations

>>15304141
should I feel bad if this is the (cheaper) rolex I like the most

>>15304141
why does the purple rolex attract the biggest autists?

>>15304778
bro chill it's probably the same guy

Terrible quality, but any idea what this watch is? UK from the 1990's.

>>15304833

>>15304102
Dont forget Rado with their 1200 yuro quartz ceramics.

>>15304778
The layers of autism here...
This is like max autism in 20 different consumer hobbies.

Are this iem the kind you have to send a wax molding of your ear canal in for?

The nerv card in the wallet

Countless more

Damn

>>15304372
Different dial, case and pushers, cmon son.

>>15304858
no these are not custom iems. you can tell because the tips are silicone and not just the molded plastic. I can't speak for the rest, but I agree the post reeks of "spending money on various hobbies for the sake of it"

>>15304858
Not them, but yeah those are the custom molded IEM sleeves. Here's a photo of their IEMs from /g/ without the sleeves on, though.

Imagine spending
>$2000 on electrostatic IEMs
>$400 for molding
>$1300 on a Hi-Res audio player
Just to listen to Disney Princess songs.

I legit think it's actual autism (not meme autism).

>>15304833
He seems to be wearing it upside down, which is funny.

>>15304860
>>15304858
>>15304861
I amend my statement these are definitely customs. the white tip looked like silicon flanges to me on a quick glance but it's not. it's a custom

>>15304550
Does any of them have a solid face?

>>15304861
>>15304858
>>15304778
Meanwhile the amount of money in that 1 pic could provide me with like 8 years of a very comfy life in my country.

>>15304886
you mean like this?

>>15304892
>>15304886

>>15304896
no he probably means a solid dial and not a skeleton.

>>15304886
non-skeleton? like this?

>>15304440
Stop heel striking.

>>15303985
Got any links? Way too many choices on AliExpress I don't know which one is good.

>>15304027
wut but they literally test the same on those diamond testers

>>15305062
more like winding my lange 31 day by hand

>casio now has real, natural diamonds in their watches
>$40

hmmmm

>>15305114

>>15305114
>>15305115
Looks like shit

>>15304550

richard mille watches unironically look like something you would get out of a crane game at chuck e. cheese

>>15304550

>>15305128
I honestly thought there must be some in-person quality to them that just isn't conveyed in photos, but they really didn't look like they were that valuable in person. they looked nice, but that might've been because they were behind a glass windowpane at the aria hotel

>>15305123
but diamonds bro

only $40! cheap cheap
seems to be a big hit in SEA for some reason on the listings

>>15305128
COPE HARDER

>>15305134
I agree. people go on about "muh materials" but they just don't look good.

>>15304778
This pic is so good. Every single thing in it is quality. Look at that leather, hnnnggg

OK, so there was a lot of discussion on Natos last thread, but I still have some questions…

>>15303753
>Yes it can save a watch If a springbar fails but it also puts more stress on them in the first place if the entire watch wasn't designed with a nato in mind.
>>15303761
>How does it put more stress on the bars?
How do you design a watch for natos? Still don't get the extra stress.
>>15303882
>To my knowledge the added material under the watch case can lead to additional downward tension on the spring bar instead of the classic outside "pull". Especially in a watch there the lugs and springbars aren't flish with the case bottom.
That kinda helps, but it's a round bar in a round hole, so it should not matter which direction you put on force.

contd.

>>15305193
cont.

>>15303783
>Funny thing about natos: my understanding is that the military watches had soldered bars instead of springbars, so the only thing that could fail (and thus lose the watch) was the nato strap. I wonder though if a modern nato puts any more stress on the springbars than a normal leather strap. Why would the downward pressure towards the skin be any different or have a different amount of force?
>>15303786
>5 ring Zulus can solve that problem
>>15303882
>This has been a controversial discussion over at the Rolex forums but in essence it does make your watch safer unless you already have shitty spring bars and/or wear your strap too tight.

I still don't understand how a Nato is better at saving the watch if a springbar fails (btw, I also have heard that military watches don't have springbars, and I can understand, those fuckers look flimsy!) compared to a RAF strap or some other single strap system. As long as it's not a two piece strap (as about every classic leather strap or bracelet), the watch will still dangle on your arm with only one springbar remaining (so that you can loose it within minutes, because let's be real, if you're bashing your arm around so much that you rip out a springbar even while the watch is flat to your wrist, a dangling watch will not stay on for longer than a few seconds).
And some anon mentioned shitty springbars:
Just noticed a while ago my BOCTOK has some quite thick springbars (though bent and rusty), whereas the springbars that came with my straps are all really thin.
Can I buy ultra-strong or high-performance bars somewhere?

>>15304550
>post your favorite richard mille model
Apart from the fact that I'd need to strap it on both wrists at once, I kinda dig their stallone watch from expandables 3

>>15305197
Looks like an invicta.

>when you look at watches so much theres 30 tabs open and everything starts to blend together

anyone else know this feel?

>>15303966
>sees pic related
>'oh I actually really like it, it's clean, classic and I was looking for a guilloche dial for so long and my dream VC Traditionelle is out of my budget at the moment, since RL is a designer brand for sure it's an affordable alternative for me'
>googles prices of Ralph Lauren Slim Classique
> £7,000
What's the point really of this RL at this price? If I have 7 grand for a watch I can probably save up a bit more and get some entry level second hand actual watch from big three that'll stay with me forever. I'd find it embarrassing to have a fashion watch on my wrist after hitting 30.

REAL THREAD

>>15305237

MIGRATE IMMEDIATELY

>>15305194
>100% Stainless Steel these Swiss made spring bars are assembled by hand in a small village in Switzerland. When you want the best spring bars in the world made from the best materials, then you buy these Swiss made bars.

http://www.ofrei.com/page1229.html

never tried them but i never knew you can have such a long webpage just on springbars

>>15305245
Pure autism

>>15305266

>>15305266
>>15305269
look at these chonky AF springbars
the price seems very reasonable too

>>15304550
The Rafa Nadal

>be browsing jewtube
>JOMW has a new video up and its about a $12,000 Zelos tourbillon watch

fuck me when did microbrands like Zelos start charging
Rolex MSRP prices?

>>15304487
I enjoyed JOMW's video on the subject. Having watched his video I would be inclined toward getting a hked.

>>15304778
>be me
>Lust over the purple oyster perpetual
>massive autist
oh fuck
are there any similarly colored watches that will make me less of a sperg

>>15305353
ya HKed 1963s are the most historically accurate, pic related. Although its hard to keep track of such things as seagull themselves switched dials and even names for the watch a few times iirc.

without the red and blue its not as quirky and "cute" as the conventional 63s i feel

>>15304778
Can someone explain me if there are people out there who really carry all of this shit with them or it's some LARPing for the sake of taking an aesthetic photo?

>>15305359
I think it's a good balance between price and authenticity. I quite like the look of pic related.

>>15305238
I don't know about this watch in particular, but for an enthusiast who care more about movement and craftsmanship than what name it have on the dial, a watch like that can be a bargain not having the brand premium.

>>15305362
>blue hands and panda are sold out
>these gold hands still in stock

i was like "blue hands 100%" but hmmm ya those do look nice....

>>15305360
>radio
>voice recorder
>six hundred keys and a lockpicking set
>various business folios and writing instruments

Not to alarm you, but I think that Anon might actually have a job.

>>15305375
its one huge "im a secret agent " LARP.

gold (plated?) umbrella?
$800 notebook?
a radio in 2020?
come on

>>15305375
I always like to think she's a catburglar. Not because she has to be, but because it's a challenge. She said she gave the watch to a friend some time ago.

>>15304487
You also gotta note that the “unofficial” ones were made first. Only recently did seagull make one themselves!
And then there’s the whole discussion on which dial design actually is the correct one...
It’s a pretty autistic matter.

Where can I get a nice leather bracelet without spending over 200 for a branded piece of scrap leather?

>>15305375
>but I think that Anon might actually have a job.
Huh?
To me that pic screams unemployed basement neet with a trust fund larping as Leo epic secret agent. It’s too many layers of autism for a functioning adult.

>>15305379
>$800 notebook?
What the fuck? How it is called?

>>15305390
GRAF VON FABER-CASTELL

the pencil is like $500 and the circular eraser is $180.
The pen is $1200

>>15305381
>the watch is basically people copying each other and produced out of random factories some licensed and some not and theres also this solo agent in HK and seagull probably sold all of them the ST19 movement inside anyway

its all very chinese

>>15305194
If a normal 2 piece strap or bracelet meets a springbar failure it literally just falls off your wrist unless you are wearing long sleeves over it. How could it not?

>>15304444
Based, never seen this thing, quad 4s well earned.
Is it any good? Not that I would buy one but these clocks look nice in old timey houses, just like the JLC Atmos.

>>15305406
Is it really that expesive though? I used to have a colored pencils set from them as a kid. They were fancy but nothing out of this world as I come from quite an humble background tbf. Perhaps they have both affordable basics and some exclusive items for turbo autists. Also maybe it's a novelty import product in US, whereas in Europe it's more popular hence prices are lower idk. Surprised to hear that though.

>>15305447
You had Faber-Castell colouring pencils which you can still buy for a couple of euro. Thats Graf Von Faber-Castell

>>15305450
I see, so pretty much that's some exclusive line of fountain pens etc as I said.

>>15305372
They've got one with blue hands on sale to 230 as it has scratches...

>>15305458
I didn't read your entire post only the first line because you included your entire life story.

>>15305447
iirc the notepads are handcrafted in germany with saffiano leather.

even the normal faber castell brand has premium stuff with shit costing much more than you'd expect

>>15305383
Molequin. Or have one made by the dozens of strapmakers on ig.

>>15303219
>classic man's watch is now gay.
Let me guess, you're so insecure and lost as a man you need a big tool watch or diver to feel manly.

>>15305200
One option that I've seen done with these watches that really suffer from polishing is to find a cheaper one with a bad case, and switch it to a better one. I recently bought an otherwise nice Lord Matic that was somewhat polished because I also found a mint-condition case for it for practically nothing. Of course that can be hard for the rarer models.

My Pagani shitter hasn't been dispatched yet even though I ordered it almost 2 weeks ago.

Anyone else in the same situation?

>>15305491
That's one fine looking reverso. I like the continued dial in the small seconds. Could do without the pointer date though.

>>15305556
not shipped yet? or not arrived yet?
what does the status say

message the seller and ask whats up.
they reply within the day.

its now 830pm in china so maybe tomorrow your reply should come.

hey guys, I've only ever bought bad watches before mainly from big fashion brands, is Seiko Men's SNE039 a good entry? I like its profile and it's cost-friendly, thank you.

>>15305269
>San
>Mani
>Lan
>Bob

>>15305581
never tried seiko's solar (citizen is more known for such tech) but the price seems extremely fair for it

and if you are ok with mechanical theres even a more cost friendly option in these budget seiko 5s (phasing out now) with a very similar look with the baton hands.

SNK789/ SNK793/ SNK795
$75ish

>>15305422
So all in all, whichever one you get, this alone makes it very authentic!

>>15305428
Well, duh... of course it does. That’s exactly what I’m saying! And a one-piece strap solves this issue. But what benefit does a three-piece nato offer?

>>15305556
You’re the guy with the Czech warehouse according to AliExpress?
Maybe that doesn’t exist...
What shipping time do they guarantee?

>>15305603
>>15305581
theres also a series with the dauphine hands which i feel is very sharp looking
this is the SNKL41 (SNKL43, SNKL45)
but the cons with these seiko 5s is the terrible rattly bracelet they come with. The new seiko5s are coming in so these will be going extinct soon.
The SNE039 comes with solid links so its much better there. From what ive read seiko's solar is fine.

>>15305576
It says "Left operation point" in CZPRGA and "electronic shipment data provided to DHL" since May 28th. DHL confirms they got the shipment data but they haven't receive the item yet. I'll message the seller.

>>15305621
I'm almost certain all aliexpress EU points are bullshit. They guarantee a week, but all the reviews mention that it took roughly 10 days to arrive.

>>15305556
its been weeks

>>15304550
Has to be the RM055 Bubba Watson
>doesn't look like a kids birthday party
>no ass looking fonts
>somewhat simple design
>can be combined with multiple outfits without looking like a clown
That being said they make shit tier watches for the price they are asking and they will be worthless in a few years just like Franck Muller.

How ironic is it that there is a period called the "quartz crisis" that nearly destroyed the Swiss watch industry and now quartz is unwanted and mechanicals are keeping the industry alive.

>>15305668
>quartz is unwanted
>casio still sells gshocks by the truckloads at $1000 just by giving them a new colour or a meme metal case

What does /wt/ think of MB&F?

>>15305672
>mein balls & fromage
That's what I think of it.

>>15305668
Normies still wear quartz. These small watch communities on the internet are not the whole reality.

>>15304550
>>15304592
>>15305126
>>15305290
fuck i think i like Richard Mille now. what have you done to me?

>>15305666
>shit tier watches
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mille#Technologies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mille#Records

>>15305672
Expensive for what you get but that is to be expected from an independent with low production output who doesn't get to make use of economics of scale.
That being said they are top-tier and very avant garde.

>>15305668
Quartz is still sought after because people wear watches as bracelets now basically and fuck setting it Everytime you wear it

>>15305649
>They guarantee a week, but all the reviews mention that it took roughly 10 days to arrive.
Is it really stated on the product page?
What does your order page say as to when buyer protection runs out and you can dispute?

Just a reminder for you pansies that this lady I was just reminded of on ig has been diving wearing a daydate for decades.

>>15305668
most people dont even know watches without batteries exist.

It blows their minds. Mechanical watches may cost more and are much more "desired upon" from those who buy them but as a whole the sales of quartz watches absolutely dwarfs that of mechanical ones.

>>15305711
It looks if it doesn't have the week guarantee thing on the product page, "if you don't get it within x days contact Blablabla"

>>15305701
>The RM 031 is one of the most accurate wristwatches ever created. With a frequency of 36,000 vibrations per hour, it features the most advanced regulation mechanism in existence and has a performance of +/- 20 seconds per month – a real feat in modern watchmaking

>+/-20 seconds a month is impressive

who the fuck wrote this

>>15305728
Look at the source, it doesn't even say that. It's definitely an employee of RM.

>>15305728
>>15305761
All those "records" have been added by the same user who has been accused of a conflict of interest before. He is French so perhaps he doesn't work for the company.

>>15305728
I guess technically +/-20 is more accurate than.... asking some guy on the street what time it is

>>15305346
Yikes at that strap

>>15305728
>+/-20 seconds a month is impressive
it's not? isn't COSC certification like +/-2 per day so over a month +/-60? what mechanical watches are more accurate?

>>15305781
COSC certification requires -4/+6 per day, so around -120/+240 per month if you left it alone. Regardless, if you're that worried about accuracy, don't get a mechanical.

>>15305792
Citizen A660 movement claiming a rating of plus or minus five seconds a year.

>>15305781
For mechanicals, Zenith's Defy Lab hits 0.3-0.5 per day. Which is like 15s a mth.

<15s a month is also what Seiko spring drives has.

that citizen watch that everyone spams from time to time hits -+1 second per year. (quartz).

the wiki statement pretends that quartz watches dont exist lmao. "most accurate wristwatch"

My first Citizen arrived today, this model has sapphire glass and cost £195 on Amazon.

>>15305806
Honest question.....why do you care about a sapphire crystal on a citizen.

1: the watch isn't worth servicing. Since parts and labor will be higher than the cost of a new watch

2: you're not servicing that watch or getting the free cleanings that come with high end watches sonit will stop working long before the crystal looks like shit

>>15305817
>why do you want better parts on a watch
it does not matter if he ever services it or not

>>15305806
based
i'm real close to pulling the trigger on a Stiletto myself

>>15305825
Well you know why you want saph on a watch right? So that you don't have to swap the cryst out as much due to wear and tear....

As long as it's not acrylic....chances are the movement won't outlast a mineral crystal

>>15305447
Graf von Faber-Castell is the "higher-end" brand of Faber-Castell.

If you see "Graf von" it just means its handmade in Germany, and they'll charge a shit ton for it.

For example, here's there white gold/diamond pencil cap.

>>15305830
you can get sapphire glass for cheap now
its literally a bonus
like why the hell not?
$60 chinese watches come with sapphire glass too

>>15305379
>gold (plated?) umbrella?

https://www.foxumbrellas.com/ladies-tube/368-4754-wl11-silver-crook.html#/

They actually posted their umbrella several years ago. It's sterling silver.

>>15305836
Because it's unnecessary expense for the watch built down to a price?

Like. Do I demand Toyota use Tyco milspec connectors on my Camry? And safety wore everything?

Yeah that's aircraft quality work but it's overkill for a car built down to a price

>>15305817

I’m 25, earn about $42k a year in a big city so I can’t really justify buying a genuinely luxury watch. This is my first “quality” watch since buying a Seiko 5, which has got some scratches on the acrylic after about 2 years of daily use.

At $250 I thought it was a fair price for watch that I intend to wear every day now.

>>15305830
>>15305817
>>15305843
actually your logic doesnt make sense

its a quartz ecodrive, which commonly lasts like 20 years
so if its "cost prohibitive to service", wouldnt a sapphire crystal be better cos it lasts longer? you'll never have to swap it out ever

>unnecessary expense
you can literally buy sapphire crystal for $5 off alibaba right now. You think it costs like $100?

>>15305836
They come with sapphire, yes, but many of them skip on AR coating.

>>15305847
I meant “hardlex” not acrylic

>>15305817
>>15305830
a mineral crystal won't get all scratched up within the 10-15 year lifespan of an eco-drive? highly doubtful unless you rarely use it

>>15305849
thats really not a big deal at all (and frankly unreasonable to ask for at that price). it doesnt make the glass any weaker. Just look at your watch properly nigga

>>15305847
Buy that cream, it's specifically for acrylic watches. Google it. Will fix it up

While we are on the subject of sapphire, the jews at Sinn charge 500 FUCKING YUROS for a sapphire option.

>>15305854
If you treat it like normal it'll be fine. Are you dragging your watches on concrete everyday?

You know my smart watches don't have sapphire and they're doing fine scratchleess and those feature touch screens

>>15305806
Kino
Welcome citizenchad

>>15305863
Citizens are only for poorfags.

>>15305875
and? the name is literally citizen because they wanted to sell good watches to the masses.
should poor people not have access to wristwatches?

>>15305882
>good
>citizen

He fell for the meme.

>>15305875
>LARPing as having funny when you're on 4chan in the middle of the day
lol

>>15305615
Oh now I get it. I think it stops the watch from moving around on the strap compared to the way it would if you just threaded a simple band through it.

Stop replying to the tripfag.
I don't know what made him wander into the thread but he is an absolute retarded who never has any idea what he is talking about.

>>15305884
not him and idk why you hate citizens but they are objectively good utilitarian watches

>>15305875
>not being a stylish poorfag too good for Citizen’s Mormon missionarycore
not gonna make it

>>15305908
>>15305914
>>15305885
>poorfags coping THIS hard right now

>>15305902
Right, you just want everyone to cheer you on for buying an "approved" brand entry level watch....

You guys are being really autistic over the features of a disposable watch.

>>15305920
go buy me that $10k citizen watch.

what are you, poor? cant afford to blow 10 grand on a internet stranger?

>>15305932
I could easily afford a 10k watch. The watch I'm wearing now costs more than that.

Citizen is just a shitter brand.

>>15305908
You can buy the citizen, but why are you so autistic about it?

Like ooohh it has saph Crystal.... it's a citizen

Look at the lume application..... it's a citizen

Look at the clean machining on the case! .... it's a citizen....

Imagine being unable to comprehend relative value.

>>15305938
>I could easily afford a 10k watch.
>easily

ok then buy me one. And you might as well buy a few more for the folks here too.
10k is nothing to you anyways, you are so rich.

unless you arent really "rich", at all.
but who will lie on the internet in a sad attempt to boost their own ego?

i have more faith in people ;))

>>15305939
>complaining about autism while hes on 4chan AND using a tripcode

shoo

Why do people still reply to tripfags?

>>15305951
Don't listen to that anon. Literally the first watch I ever bought was a Citizen and I still wear it to this day.

It has a lot of sentimental value because I wore it through all of secondary school and university. I used it to keep time on every test I took to land my first job. (I had to pay $40 to replace the crystal after it got scratched, but it was worth it).

>>15305966
>Pass user since 2015

>>15305817
Who cares what you think, tripfag?

>>15305966
thank you and based
you deserve the dubs

>>15305966
Based and keeping 4chan up and running pilled

>>15305966
>imagine having a $25,000 watch and still keeping your shitter $60 citizen because "sentimental value"

End your live.

>>15305951
I'd just like a 4k Speedy, thanks in advance.

>>15305984
>imagine thinking value is only in the monetary sense

RM watches must be like the holy grail to you. more valuable than your mom

>>15305984
And paying for a a 4chan membership

Honestly though it's probably just one of those "high end fakes" from reddit

Has someone posted this yet?
Citizen with an ap royal oak inspired watch.

>>15306005
Guys, if you can't afford the watch you want, don't buy a citizen homage of it, yeah I know Japanese watches are well built but you'll never be happy with it

>>15306005
That actually looks better than a real Royal Oak

i just want a boring ol' IWC Ingenieur and pretty much stop there, maybe pick up a cheap sports/tool/field watch for super casual times. Is there something wrong with me?

>>15306014
no, many of us dream of escaping the cycle of watch buying and having a two watch collection

>>15306014
Nothing. You're free.

>>15306014
>maybe pick up a cheap sports/tool/field watch

ok but why stop at one
they're cheap, you dont have to think about it

why not get another....
and then another..
maybe buy some meme gshock?
or some vintage soviet shitters
maybe something for your favourite nephew...

hmm hmm

>>15306009
KILL YOURSELF TRIPFAG. Filtered btw, can't stand you.

>>15305806
Is that just a stupid angle, or does look that watch ultra-bulky?
The whole thing just looks weird with your hand.

>>15306044
I think it suits me, and my style, but Its 42mm and I definitely couldn’t wear a larger watch than this.

>>15306054
>quartz watch
>42mm

aren't quartz movements really REALLY small?

why are they making the watch huge?

>>15306058
Because small watches look bad on grown man wrists

>>15306058
If quartz watches shouldn't be big because it doesn't need that much space to function then mechanical watches shouldn't exist because you don't need them to keep time anymore. It's just a style preference.

>>15306044
its fine. Lugs <= wrist

>>15306058
I think eco-drive movements may be on average larger than standard quartz? The movement for this one is E111

But personally I think larger watches look better on me (182cm slim build). It also has a practical benefit since I’m short sighted.

>>15306054
it just barely fits lug-to-lug, but don't worry too much. watches in these wrist shots always look huge compared to how they really look on the wrist irl

Do you have a dirty secret watchfags would shun?
I keep dreaming about such and such expensives watches, but I always find comfort in my featherweight titanium quartz Casio with a lit-back display. I have other watches, but I always like going back to the ol reliable, zero hassle.

>>15306130
i love Hublot

>>15306141
For the money I would rathe have a Zenith defy 21, same look but x10 the watch

Why haven't you taken the citizenpill yet?

>>15305806
I like the numerals made from the same metal as the case (and titanium, that's cool). it looks good except it's just way too big. your wrist isn't small-looking and yet the dial just looks gigantic.

>>15306130
Just that I'm poor and I can't afford a real watch. I love posting on watch forums so much and I love the "hobby" but I just feel like such incredible shit when I see what kind of collections people can afford while I struggle to even pay the rent. It's extremely depressing. Sucks to be the underclass in a shit country.

>>15305370
Yeah but except you precisely pay here the brand premium. Brand premium for a pseudo luxurious clothing company though

>>15306166
They're just watches. Why would you be depressed over that? Collecting and having a watch hobby doesn't and isn't about having 10k plus watches. That's just attempting to feel superior over others.

Most of the watches posted in these threads are not owned by the posters, most are re-posts, stolen pics etc. and most are fakes.

When you buy a rolex for 20 thousand, you're buying it simply because of that reason. It's an expensive brand watch and you want to show off. It has nothing to do with an actual watch collecting hobby.

In other hobbies you'll see a diverse range of things people like, here you'll see the same brands over and other. There are plenty of equally expensive if not more expensive watch brands but you see them much less because people only want brands that average people recognize because that's all they're about.

any opinions? a Clifton Club GMT caught my eye recently, but don't know anything about the brand other than that they are old and part of the Richemont group

>>15306054
"looks big" anon here.
this shot looks more reasonable. there's less wide-angle-lens distortion since it's further away, I guess. it's a nice watch.

>>15306178
>>They're just watches. Why would you be depressed over that?
Because it's just a reminder of being poor, which is an actual reason to be depressed. It's like that in any hobby nowadays, except maybe fishing or something, and even then there's expensive equipment to buy, including boats and shit. But it's more socially acceptable to be a poor fisherman.

You have up to $1000 USD to buy a dress watch. What do you get?

>>15306202
That's barely enough for cufflings lmfao.

>>15306130
I don't have any dress watches. I had a couple over the years but I don't like them, they are all just kind of unimpressive. I wear divers everywhere

>>15306179
Good looking watches but ultimately shitters.

>>15306202
Vintage omega or similar

>>15306202
Citizen Stiletto and put it on a dressy leather strap

>>15306093
not bad compared to the usual shit

>>15306227
>>15306093
it's funny how it specifically says no jewels

>>15306130
Shinola makes some of the most attractive watches on the market today

>>15306166
>It's extremely depressing. Sucks to be the underclass in a shit country.
Are you the faggot that was whining about that totally-not-a-drugdealer anon that wouldn't just gift you a 10k watch?
dude, seek help!
You're just making yourself miserable for no good reason at all.

>>15306130
>Do you have a dirty secret watchfags would shun?
I'm totally attracted to cheap (mechanical) shitters. I'm always on the fence on pulling the trigger on shit like pic related or more Amphibias. In fact, I don't even own many non-shitter watches (or none, depending on your definition of sitter) and don't really aim for changing that.

>>15306231
NO JEWERS
NO ADJUSTAMENTS
TIME ONRY

Does /wt/ wear their watches when they go on the shitter?

>>15306130
If Lenovo made a Thinkpad-styled smartwatch, I'd buy it and wear it unironically.

>>15306202
10 Bambinos for each occasion.
>>15306203
>$1000
>cufflinks
You mean Cufflinks with watch integrated? It's only $14.

>>15305984
imagine not

Who's going to make the next thread? Maybe we could really wait 'till page 5 or so?

>>15305859
I didn't know that Sinn watches with a mineral are even exist. It's quite disappointing. I can't afford a Sinn though, but still.

>>15306456
>Who's going to make the next thread?
It's already there.

>>15306130
>Do you have a dirty secret watchfags would shun?
I always cum under a caseback before selling my watch to a person I don't like. If the watch I'm selling is a Seiko - it makes my load even thiccer.

>>15306456
>page
If you use the catalog there are no pages...

>>15305966
Based BM8180.

>>15306578
poorfags need to leave.

>>15306692
That's 300€ spot price these days btw. Poorfag guide has become coupla years out of date.

>>15306692
>the people that call others poorfags are always the biggest poorfags themselves
prove me wrong

>>15306692

>>15306578

This is the watch that got me into watches. Was my daily for like 5 years.

>>15306692
>poorfags need to leave.
Leave then.

>>15306752
>>15306698
I literally wear a Rolex Daytona.

Please fuck off back to plebbit.

>>15306692
I'm not a richfag but I do at least have a Seamaster, so not really a poorfag as such.

>>15305623
I own the exact quarter zip in that picture lol

NEW THREAD

>>15306782
>>15306782

>>15306696
300€ is still poor for a watch.