/fa/ - Fashion

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>>15295420

1st for Jenni

Every response to valid criticism of luxury watch collecting/ownership is "you're poor"

I'm in my early 20's with a high paying tech job and over $200k in stocks, I think I could swing a gay ass Calatrava if I wanted to own one like you and Archie Luxury

>>15297751
Post portfolio proof

Are orange silicone straps retarded? I just ordered one for my white bluish dial Amphibian.

>>15297760
No but they aren't easy to pull off.

I have to laugh at the poor fags who think their "expensive" GShock gives them the right to comment on GS vs Rolex vs Patek vs Lange etc, as if they know anything about real watches.

>>15297760
I tried that once.
Didn’t like it and so did my friends.
Black silicone always goes well with divers of any kind.

>>15297774
and yet gshock has went to space while those "real watches" haven't, lol

>>15297751
It's your money so spend it on what ever you want, even a Calatrava. At least with a PP you know you'll get most of your money back if you resold it.

>>15297777
Why would I want to sell my watch? It's a watch not an investment.

>>15297779
Patek and Rolex are always a good investment even if you don't think you'd want to sell it.

>>15297780
If I'm not going to sell it how does it matter, at all?

alright you homoes
what am I missing with the Calatrava?

its so incredibly plain vanilla looking for a luxury watch

>>15297776
How is that even a relevant argument? 99.999% of watch models have never been to space. If you are that sad of a person to care about that kind of think at least get a proper watch like a Speedy.

>>15297756
No I'm not doing all that to get called a poorfag anyway

>>15297787
muh finishing
a swiss person touched every part of it, justifying the high price

>>15297788
>the entire marketing campaign of the speedmaster is "it went to space"
>40 dollar g-shocks went to space
>10 dollar soviet shitter digital watches have been to space
>"wuuuuut why do you care so much about a watch going to space, bro?! at least get a REAL space watch like the speedmaster"
so much of this hobby runs on pure cope and at some point you run out of everything but the cope and become archieluxury

>>15297782
You're an insufferable faggot. Kys

>>15297798
I accept your admission of defeat.

>>15297787
What is hard to understand? It's a classic three handed dress watch but one of the absolute best made and finished examples available. If you think it's too expensive then you aren't the target customer.

>>15297797
Archieluxury isn't even a real person so not a good example to use anon.

Reminder that quartz is superior in every way as a time keeping tool. Your only argument for mechanical is muh soul of cogs and springs. Shut the fuck up, your watch has a movement made in the hundred thousands by some low-wage worker in some asian shithole all the same. Unless you have a bespoke or actually hand-made shit. The only reason high-end watch makers rarely use quartz is because they keep looking for answers to questions noone asked just for the sake of vanity and trying to make centuries-old tech keep up with much much simpler electronics (antimagnetism, shock resistance, complications). Expensive and complicated watches are flex jewelry at the most.

>>15297751
You're still too poor to be buying a Patek.

>>15297788
because a $50 watch achieved something that those watches 200x its value that you mentioned didnt

its also in the Guinness book of records as well. BASED-SHOCK is the most durable watch and the only one that can survive a 25 ton truck (so far)

https://youtu.be/I2OjmWpN_Xg

>>15297800
I was not that guy.

>>15297801
it looks like a $200 citizen that i can buy at the mall. Its too plain looking for a luxury watch

>>15297806
What if I like both? That's why I want a GS Spring Drive watch. It's the perfect fusion of quartz and muh cogs. None of their models really speak to me right now though.

Americans have a big hard-on for space watches. Americans were also second to space, second to manned spaceflight, second to everything except sending people in the moon's general direction.

Consequently, said hard-on is that of a cuckold, dripping at the thought of sloppy seconds. Prove me wrong.

>>15297774
Rolex did go to space.

>>15297806
Yup mechanicals are a solution in search of a problem now

>>15297814
> it looks like a $200 citizen
Then you've never seen or tried one on in person. Do you really think every expensive watch has to look like a Richard Mille?

>>15297822
False dichotomy. It doesn't have to look like a Richard Mille but for tens of thousands of dollars it shouldn't look like a $150 Pulsar

>>15297807
> because a $50 watch achieved something
a dirt cheap disposable watch being worn because you'd be an idiot to wear a expensive model that is likely to be damaged is not an achievement to be proud of.

>>15297826
>all those astronauts who wore their speedmasters into space are retards

>>15297824
So what should a $30k classic style dress watch look like then?

>>15297822
at least give me a nice textured (hand done) guilloche dial, man

its like $30000 wtf

>>15297832
A Richard Mille, of course

>>15297828
Since quartz watches didn't even exist back then what was the alternative?

>>15297826
>dirt cheap disposable

none of these words are a negative

>>15297833
Then buy a Calatrava with a guilloche or other textured dial. There are 100's of variant, not just the simplest example your posted.

>>15297832
Intricate dial, hands, case shape. You can do simplicity, but still pretty. That shit is just straight up BORING with zero idea. The classic fault with old school swissmade fags that cannot move on.

>>15297826
they wear g-shocks because they work better than expensive mechanicals, at a fraction of the price, requiring much less maintenance while having many times the resistance to magnetism or shock. it's an objectively superior tool. that's what watches originally were, tools.

>>15297833
>>15297837
To be fair the lacquered dial on the 5168 is some of the best I've ever seen along with the overall dial finishing. It's "pure and simple" at the highest level of execution.

>>15297843
No one is arguing that. Of course a cheap tool watch is better for that kind of environment. It doesn't make it a better watch overall though.

>>15297844
>the best I've ever seen along with the overall dial finishing. It's "pure and simple" at the highest level of execution.

so its a Grand Seiko?

>>15297847
record levels of cope
I like mechanical watches but you are living in a delusion

>>15297843
>The X-33 watch is currently issued to astronauts, and in the Talking Watches episode with Dr. David Williams, he recounts some of the design decisions that were made during prototype testing. He also confirms that the watch must be returned to NASA when the mission is over, but Omega does offer astronauts a personally engraved X-33. He was part of the crew that first took the X-33 into space. Prior to the X-33, astronauts wore Speedmaster Professionals (some still do).

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/omega-x-33-on-board-the-spacex-falcon-9-with-the-crew-dragon-watch-spotting

>>15297787
you may not be a watch idiot savant, if you that doesn't sight doesn't promote orgasm desu

>>15297854
im not a brand pig, so no

Torn between a 5227 & 5146. thoughts?

>>15297854
are you having a stroke, retard?

>>15297787
It's a fragile scratch magnet that can't be washed with water and soap and requires a hefty "service" tax forever until they refuse to service it eventually

Your son who you think will treasure it will sell it on eBay

>>15297850
It's better done than a Grand Seiko. Also GS doesn't have a HH grade movement.

>wear a gshock during an EVA
>battery melts
>ruptures space suit
>die

this is what you get for thinking you’re better than the men who conquered the moon

>>15297862
>Also GS doesn't have a HH grade movement.
some of them do, actually

>>15297787
All look the same.

>>15297865
GS =/= Credor

>>15297866
some GS watches are done by the same people
so you've lost your point, there are GS watches that are just as well done, if not better.

>>15297858
How can you compare? The 5227 a simple Calatrava, 5146 is a Perpetual.

I love the 5146, it's the most casual perpetual they make and could be worn as a daily, but it's almost three times the price.

>Omega selling 150buck NATO straps

What are some other examples of extreme jewry in the watch accessory world?

>>15297877
>We'll sell you a steel Rolex sport watch but only if you buy two precious metal Cellinis

>>15297871
If you are talking about the examples I think you are those rare GS are as expensive if not even more so than a Patek. Otherwise post specific examples pls.

>>15297875
5146 isn't perpetual but annual and they retail for only slightly more than a 5227.

>>15297878
This kills the Cellini ever being desirable in itself
who wants to be the contrarian who buys one when it's used as a negotiation piece for Subs

From what i've heard the King and Grand Seikos are fairly similar in quality and the KS is usually the better deal because the GS name has a premium price to it.
how far off are the Lord Marvels, quality wise. is it noticeable in the way that if you got one you always would rather have gotten a KS or GS?

>>15297877
the entire swiss watch industry

>>15297878
The entire high end market is fucked with ADs dumping watches to grey market dealers who then try to offload to us at inflated prices or do shit like that. Shit's fucked now that sales are down

>>15297883
oops. damn confusing Patek numbering. I was thinking the 5320.

personally I don't like the dial on that annual.

>>15297884
why didnt more people buy the cellini Princes?

these are actually highly interesting technically and also hipster levels of rare
and now they are discontinued again

>>15297903
Why buy that when I can get a Reverso?

>>15297903
Dress watches simply aren't popular and neither are rectangular ones except for a Reverso.

>>15297891
Thats a given.

>>15297903
>hipster levels of rare
>buys a luxury watch that 99.99999%(literally) of people will not recognise

then whats the point
people with wealth want other richfags and normies to know how wealthy they are, so they choose the popular ones

>>15297934
This guy knows what's up

>>15297941
How do you even read that dial?

>>15297946
Bottom right is the seconds track with the hand having a mechanism that moves the entire seconds hand so it can make a banana shape. The hours are displayed on the left in 24H time on a rotating track that points to the minutes

What exactly are the technical requirements for a "space watch"? What stopping an astronaut from wearing any old diver out on a spacewalk?

>>15297747
i wanna fit my tiny penis and huge balls in her mouth all at once

>>15297787
The design is flawless. Just look at it. The beautiful sword hands, the incredible long seconds, the applied hour markers and the tasteful minute track dots. The case shape is designed to perfection, the lugs hug the wrist, the beautiful round contours as it meets the dial, its just so perfect its hard to describe. And then there's the movement, which will wind like butter and have a smooth sweep on the micro rotor.

Having said that, I prefer the one with crown guards.

>>15297818
Very heavy and pathetic cope

>>15297807
What's the watch on the left? Doesn't look like a gshock but something smaller.

>>15297941
Not to hate but that is atrocious

>>15297863
>>battery melts
>>ruptures space suit
I'd love to see the simulation you ran that lead to the conclusion a tiny coin cell battery had enough temperature, velocity and speed to rupture a space suit.

>>15297955
Nothing. Russians took a shitty strela to space.

>>15297890
The Lord Marvel was a step below the GS and KS models, but the 5740 in-house movement is remarkable for being Seiko's first 36,000bph movement. They're very collectable watches and the price you'd pay would reflect that.

>>15297982
Don't you diss the mighty arrow!
Also, they too Amphibias to space, so the
>you can only wear a diver if you're diving!
>reeeeeeeeeeee!
autist can please shut up.

>>15297996
they also took elektronika 55 to space

>>15297993
>collectable watches
Please stop with this meme. Modern watches are almost always a depreciating asset
>inb4 Antiques Roadshow Rolex
a less than one in a million example. Sure, a few go up over time and weebs seem to be jizzing over (fucking) SEIKOS these days but give me a break

>>15297955
For quartz, basically just don't get one with dogshit Chinese QC. For mechanical it has to survive the g forces on the way up, but since most mechanicals these days have a shock absorber for the balance wheel I bet even a seiko 5 or tissot would live. Maybe even the saying about not taking your rolex to golfing doesn't apply anymore?

>>15297955
I can't find the original NASA procurement document but there is a partial excerpt here
https://www.twentytwoten.com/1574/nasa-testing-regime-omega-speedmaster-moonwatch/

>>15298010
>Collectable means I can make a profit
That's not why nearly anyone collects anything.

Imagine owning a watch you can't even play tetris on.

It's depressing that this is the peak of smartwatches. A mostly plastic, 60 dollar watch that will likely never be surpassed.

>>15298049
>dumb zoomer doesn't even know the difference between tetris and pong

>>15297747
why do people like this german watch slut again?

>>15297867
Vacheron's honestly looks better.

I like the Maltese cross logo.

>>15298059
Big mouth for big BOCTOK cock.

>>15298051
I couldn't find a quick picture of the tetris game, so I just used the pong one.

Tetris is by far the best game for it anyway.

I'm aiming for the sleazy look. What watch says "I have sold, am currently selling, or intend to sell, drugs?"

>>15297807
the victorinox inox was run over by a 60 ton tank. I cant find the tank video but here is various excavation equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tfIawAbvg4

>>15298061
>>15297867
I prefer the Calatrava's overall smoother lug design.
VC's has a better date window position imo.

>>15298077
gold AP royal oak, bonus points for covering it in diamonds

>>15298010
>modern watches
The Lord Marvel 5740 is from 1966, not "modern" in terms of wristwatches, and if you manage to get one for an even half decent price you're guaranteed that it's value will at the very worst hold steady or only slightly appreciate.

>>15298061
Only retards buy Vacheron, though.

>>15298093
>edc is my life

>>15298093
>fake vacheron
>fake dupont
>anime shit

yikes.

>>15298077

>>15298093
He's back again, the lil b of edc

>>15298099
That thing looks hideous.

>>15298103
Yeah, and the watch also looks gaudy as hell.

>>15298103
>>15298105
HAHAHAHA this is funny, you see the guy on the top is talking about the watch and the guy on the bottom seems like he is in agreement with him, but he is actually talking about the black man being hideous hahah lol xDD

>>15298105
based

>>15297787
made from real child bone. White children too. Comes at a premium.

>>15298108
Nobody mentioned anything about race until you did. Are you mentally ill?

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood

>>15298148
You know as well as I do that "white children" means hispanics and other "arguably" sort. Spic bone dial? Couldn't pay me to look at one.

>>15298167
The strap looks a bit tight

>>15298167
What strap? That's not the default one is it? I have a samurai too and it doesn't really feel right on a nato.

>>15298091
You aren’t guaranteed shit, especially not with a piece of male jewelry that’s quickly becoming obsolete. Don’t be a retard
>>15298077
Go to Walmart. Last time I looked at the watches there they had a couple dozen fake diamond encrusted 50mm+ face timepieces on clearance for $5-$12 each

I just spent $1400 on a 1989 Tudor Prince Date w/ white gold fluted bezel.
Did I fuck up?

>>15298178
It looks like a Barton silicon band.
NATOs are overrated and on a watch like the Samurai that is specifically meant to hug your wrist, will just make it more uncomfortable. A nice black silicon strap is perfect for wearing a diver in the summer.

>>15298185
Go try selling it for $1500 and find out for yourself

>>15298191
I’m not planning on flipping it

>>15298167
i really like the samurai case but i don't like the hands. samurai case and dial with marinemaster hands is something i would buy

>>15298192
Hopefully you get $1400 worth of enjoyment out of it then. Don’t know what else to tell you

>>15298196
You can buy Marinemaster hands for 20 bucks online and then mod it then. Or ask some watchmaker to change the hands for you if you're too pussy to do it yourself. It probably costs under 50 bucks.

>>15298175
You 're right. I always have it tight because I'm autistic and can't allow it to move even slightly.
>>15298178
>>15298178
>>15298186
That's correct, someone here recommended it to me. I also have the black strap.

>>15298208
It was probably me. NATOS don't suit a lot of Seiko watches.

>>15298180
>quickly becoming obsolete
The first quartz watch was commercially available in 1969, mechanical watches have been a niche product for a good while now.
Or do you mean wristwatches themselves? The success of the Apple watch would contradict that.
What exactly do you mean? It's a historically significant watch that's of a finite number, there's always going to be collectors who want it, it's never going to be worthless.

>>15298225
>The first quartz watch was commercially available in 1969
and it was beautiful

can we shit on poor people more? it's unironically become my favorite thing to do here

>>15298167
eh I prefer the "Great White" Save the Ocean Samurai desu

>>15298225
>The success of the Apple watch would contradict that.
The apple watch isn't a watch, it's a wrist PDA. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that?

reply to this post with your opinion on what the GOAT dress watch is or your mother will die in her sleep tonight

>>15298281
Not so fast there buddy.

>>15297787
>that concave case profile
fucking GORGEOUS. shame about it being automatic with a date

>>15298281
Buy a simple $300-$400 Movado and wear it for the next 20 years. Nobody will think you’re a pretentious asshole and they actually look great

>>15298284

>>15298093
fucking based

>>15298293

>>15298300
needs flash

>>15298077
Cheap burner phone with any kind of solid gold watch. The blue on yellow gold Submariners come to mind. Iced out Nautilus too.

>>15298077
fake gold president

Used seasmaster or mm300?

>>15298281

>waste a bunch of money on aliexpress straps because I'm bored
Are ceramic straps any good? I bought one just for the hell of it.

>>15297751
Mine wasn't, but obviously you didn't read it. The technology costs money, and the Chinese tend to prove just how much it's actually worth, at least, at a base level. Case in point: Seagull produces the cheapest tourbillon on the planet (you can get one for around 500 USD). Yes, the actual watch casings and faces are shit and ugly, but you'll still have the engineering and design of a tourbillon.

Compare that with normal luxury manufacturers and their tourbillons; they tend to start around 26k USD and up.

Same thing with the Seagull 1963 which is memed here a lot but which I own and enjoy. It's a column wheel mechanical chronograph, a slight modification and evolution of the Venus 175 cal.; today you can get one for around 250USD, but a column wheel chronograph usually starts at around 5 or 6K in luxury brands.

Luxury watches are a simple issue if you let them be that way. Any watch you pay more than 4$ for is a luxury, so throw that term out the window. The next things you pay for are in this order:
1) Technology
2) Name Brand
3) Exclusivity

It's that simple. 1 can be enjoyed by enthusiasts, but in general society 2 and 3 are the most important in terms of the valuation of someone's status based on their watch (and thus spending wealth).

If you're like me, then you don't give a shit about the social ramifications because no one else around you does. But if you live and work in a society where the type of suit you wear or the company that makes your glasses can be a talking point, then it's a different story.

>wear what you love. If you don't, you're missing out.

>>15297787
The epitome of a dinner watch. That is all.

>>15297806
There is an argument to be made regarding 'art for art's sake'. With mechanical watches, the combination comes from the engineering, R+D of the movement, precision, accuracy, and execution of all the elements. When a watchmaker achieves this, it's an act of creation.

Good news /wt/ my 5610 square synced last night after leaving it in the window over night. I guess it really does sync better at night. Fucking Montreal.

>>15297955
The main concerns revolved around a few things:
1) extreme changes of temperature, including dials and hands that might absorb solar radiation and warp.
2) G-forces during liftoff as well as jolts and other sudden bangs.
3) 1 atm changes of pressure for EVA and other things. This also includes the rapid changes of humidity.
4) the maintenance of a reasonable timekeeping.

The Speedy was apparently tested along with chronographs from other companies, including Rolex. Watches were bought (unknown to the companies) at local watch stores and brought in for testing. Lots of hilarious things ensued (watches lost their crystals, hands warped stopping the functions, etc.), and no watch was left undamaged. Ultimately the Speedy was the one that survived better than the others, but it didn't survive perfect.

The Cal. 321 was issued because that was being used by Omega at the time, and as soon as Omega found out that NASA was using their watches as official gear, they put the 'Professional' moniker on the dial. Furthermore, Omega did a slight re-engineer to the Lemania movement to create the 861, which was also tested by NASA and approved.

As far as anyone knows, only the cal.321 actually went to the moon and was worn by astronauts who walked on the moon. There is conjecture about the 'personal' watches that could be flown as well, the most famous example being Jack Swiggert's Rolex (which appears in pics just after they got retrieved in the sea when Apollo 13 came back).

What you have to understand is that NASA has to approve all tech used for EVA, but any astronaut can wear anything they want inside the capsule. There's tonnes of research on this.

>>15298269
I think the great white is really nice too, but it was significantly more expensive. I also think it has a lighter blue dial, so it wouldn't blend in as much.

>>15298371
It also has a shark-shaped second hand which I personally don't like

>>15298357
Yeah that's why they are set to try and sync at midnight.

>>15298357
https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2011/10/all-time-all-time-improving-nist-radio
Yeah, here's an article about how coverage is affected throughout the day, looks like around midnight your time is when the signal improves.

>>15298281

>>15298372
Yeah I find that gimicky. I plan on wearing this basically 24/7.

>>15298281

>>15298400
reference no.?

>>15297878
I actually really like the Cellini but fuck paying 15k+ USD for the privilege of owning the least rolexy Rolex when I could get a more classic dresswatch like the Patrimony for the same money.
There's no way Rolex will ever adjust their prices back to a more reasonable level even if (and that's a gigantig if) the demand ever cools down. The bubble would completely burst and the would be that.
I was at the dealer the other day because of the Datejust I want to order and it was hilarious. Cases full of Skydwellers and Day-Dates and they didn't have a single Submariner, Daytona or GMT Master in the exhibit. They simply don't need to, if somebody affluent enough buys enough watches they take one out of the vault and offer it to him.
Even the other steel models were very rare, most of the store window was populated with diamond Lady Datejusts and Day-Dates.

It's working for them though and I'm even considering upgrading straing from the DJ to the Day-Date simply because there's less hassle involved and the step up in price isn't even that big anymore at this point. I can imagine that if Rolex didn't ahve these inflated prices customers might not have jumped ship to the steel Royal Oaks that much which are now in an even worse situation.

>>15298344
>art for arts sake
It is, with George Daniels or Philippe Dufour, not with a mass produced store-bought watch with china-sourced parts and "assembled and checked by bergjuden" with a few zeros added to the pricetag.

>>15298442
The Day-Date in yellow gold is a fucking awesome watch, and surprisingly it looks fantastic on the wrist as well. It's on my list, anyhow. You're right about the lack of the watches that people want though. That being said, Rolex succeeds with this model, so I don't know why they shouldn't continue.

Desirability through adversity is an interesting trait in humans; exploit it and win.

>>15298453
That's why they're cool.

>>15298442
the main problem are the ADs selling to grey dealers

Threadly reminder that CraigShipp.com is the greatest of all time

Gib

>>15298464
They are absolutely stunning if you can pull them off, otherwise you look like a sleazy used car salesman.

>>15298472
I don't know, are you sure? Because if Rolex keeps upping the price of their watches each year by 300 Francs and 1000 Francs in a facelift year it would be hard for the used and grey market not to rise in a similar fashion.
Can you give me a quick rundown?

>>15298464
>That being said, Rolex succeeds with this model
It makes me so mad and at the same time they already broke down my resistance. God damn them all to hell, these Swiss guys are so smart.

Agreed about the DD but I think I'll stay with my decision of picrelated and for christmas a used 11670LN GMT instead. The Day-Date won't run away soon and there will surely be a more suitable occasion to celebrate with this purchase.
I was told that my combination (36 mm Datejust with sticks on blue dial) takes the longest, I'm looking at 6 to 8 weeks until they can get me one. Same watch but black dial would be two weeks. I didn't really need it that soon so I don't care and since it's a pretty big and reputable dealer I didn't have to give them any down payment or anything.

>>15298400

is this better than the best reverso?

>>15298501
The jlc Reverso is a masterpiece

>>15298093
What is this phone?

>>15298511
Alcatel Keyone by Blackberry I think. I owned the BlackBerry Passport which is the predecessor of this thing and it already sucked. can't imagine how bad it has to be.

>>15298507
So are Vacherons.

Square watches look very dated though.

>>15298281
The one you have with you

Vostok Amphibia Neptunes are restocked.

>>15298281

>>15298344
>Seagull 1963

>horizontal clutch

>>15298556
whats a horizontal clutch and why is it vomit worthy? jenuine question i dont know much about watchs ty

>>15298573
Based.

What strange times are these when a chinese bracelet pin press tool arrives in the regular el-cheapo untracked mail faster than a shitter does over registered parcel delivery by my domestic postal carrier. For useful knick-knacks, china 1 - 0 yurp.

>>15298578
Hell yeah komrade nice brushwork I've been debating doing that to mine. Did you keep the sides polished or brush everything?

Hmm I really like the IWC Top Gun

>>15298583
Well of course, Mainland is much more interested in exporting the virus

>>15298573
blue collar kino

>>15298556
Yes, horizontal clutch. Used by nearly every chronograph manufacturer before the 1960s. Try finding a vertical clutch for 250USD.

>>15298575
The difference is that the vertical clutch 'drops' the second counter onto the running seconds, which allows for a more precise start and arguably less power diminution on the gear train. The horizontal clutch simply pushes a wheel to mesh with the running seconds; this can result in a slight 'bump' to the start of the chronograph seconds as the teeth intermesh.

The only downside of the vertical clutch is that if engaged for long periods (i.e. years) or left engaged if the watch is sitting in a safe, the possibility exists that the wheels can stick together or may need to be unmounted. But it's not something that happens often at all, just another scare tactic by people who prefer one over the other.

The vertical clutch is superior, but since both work well, the issue comes down to how smoothly you want the chronograph to engage. I think the vomitanon is just trying to be edgy.

>>15298593
Looks ok, why the ceramic case though?

>>15298587
I kept the sides polished for contrast.

>>15298575

decreases amplitude and causes more wear and tear on gears. it’s great for poor and LOW TEST people, such as this chronocel >>15298344

At what price point does a watch stop being shit?

>>15298593
I prefer the Spitfire on size alone, but I think older models (90s-2000s) of their pilot chrono were smaller and are reasonably affordable compared to new ones.

>>15298646
depends on what you want out of the watch
if you just want something to tell time with you can get a lot of use out of a 20 dollar casio

What are some dadcore watches?

>>15298658
a rolex datejust

>>15298653
That's a piece of shit you'd be ashamed to wear.

>>15298658
Any watch /wt/ can't afford.

>>15298663
I wear a shitty $20 casio to work every day because I work around a lot of electromagnets

>>15298667
> at work

>>15298593
Just had a quick ponder in their website and saw that they now make a 36 mm automaitc Pilot. Pretty nice actually.

>>15298658
any two tone watch or mall shitter

>>15298619
Ceramic cases look soooo good. Don’t know much about them in practice, what are some issues particular to them?

>>15298098
How can you tell these are fake?

>>15298658
low to mid-range 'luxury' brands that are well known and recognizable.
the shinier the better.

>>15298635
That's the route I was going to take as well. You used a 3M pad?

>>15298357
where did you buy yours and for how much? its 160 cad on amazon now so i might as well shop around

>>15298692
I used a green scrubbing pad, like this. It's meant for pans but did the job just fine.

>>15298093
Where's your knife? You don't carry a Spyderco with you wherever you go?

>>15298680
Don't drop it.

>>15298658
timex marathon or casio ediface

>>15298550
Classica or death

>>15298583
I JUST WANT MY MMCX CABLE

>>15298593
I too enjoy the cinematic work of Tony Scott

ha ha
hangovers goes brrrr

>>15298658
My Dad's very proud of his two tone Armani quartz shitter, I tried arguing but gave up.

>>15298658
my dad wore a Movado

>>15298658
If european, ana-digi casio.

>>15298720
He's right, though. A quartz "shitter" is still better than whatever turd of an auto you're wearing.

>>15298473
All the Tudor owners are crying after seeing this

>>15298658
My father wears an IWC chrono, does that count?

>>15298099
Nigger hands are fucking atrocious.

>>15298720
You're a dick for arguing with your dad about his watch.
Let the old man be proud of what he has.

>>15298739
Movado has some horologie histoire

>>15298167
Based oceanbro

>>15298701
pray to god you don't drop that shit, son

>>15298701
how do you drop a watch lmao, like just keep it on a strap nigga
like just keep it on ur rist hahaha
fuycjking fail lmao

>>15298646
Whatever the cheapest Rolex is.

>>15298893
The Turtle is beautiful!

High end Seiko or low end Grand Seiko?

>>15298658

My dad wears a Nomos tangente

>>15297941
Is there a female version of this? I’m a noob and am intrigued by how different this looks. Not particular about brands or technology, so long as it functions as a watch and is gold toned rather than silver.

>>15298614
>>15298344
>seagull 1963

stop tempting me

>>15298696
Amazon :/

>>15298898
>>15298961
No. And in fact it is made to order and costs 25k

I have a Rolex and an Omega I want to sell.

Is it the right time to sell ? What is the best way to do this ?

>>15299021

Obviously not. Wait until the economy picks back up.

>>15299021
>Is it the right time to sell ?
lol

>>15298720

Buy him a better watch then.

>>15299021
Follow stocks

>>15299038
But stocks are roaring

>>15299021
depends which models obviously

>>15298973
the temptation of the shitter is ever present brother. Don't give in! I too am tempted buy this eastern beauty but every time i get the urge to buy i remember that the movement is essentially disposable since the service cost would be so high. I must fast.
>>15298978
haha thanks man. might just have to wait for prime days or shop around

>>15299044
While it is a good idea to follow stocks in general, what I mean specifically is if you want to sell a rolex, look at how rolex is faring at the nyse. Sell when things look good

>>15298961
>>Is there a female version of this?
Do you have hairy arms?

>>15299021
>Is it the right time to sell ?
not really
>What is the best way to do this ?
unironically red dit watchexchange, now go get that sweet hugbox money

>>15299060
>look at how rolex is faring at the nyse
In what way? How many traders are wearing Rolexes? Or are they also trading goods over there instead of stocks?

>>15298893
Together, we will save the ocean.

>>15299060
rolex shares are owned wholly by a non profit. same with tudor.

>>15299034
>>15299035
>>15299038
>>15299046
Thanks for your replies, I wasn't sure luxury watches followed the same way as the current market since it targets people with money anyways.

>>15299021
Actually second prices for watches haven't dropped much if at all during the virus lockdown. The only difference is a reduced number of buyers.

The safest option is to sell to a brick and mortar store or large site like Watchfinder or Watchbox. However don't expect to receive the prices you see on Chrono24.

>>15299061
My arm hairs are short and blonde

Hi :^)

>>15298716
How old are you?

>>15299101
So not very visible? Too bad, dye it black and post pics.

>>15298941
Thanks friend, I was between the padi and the STO but ultimately i just couldn’t resist the STO blue

>>15298973
If you buy from HKED, then you should be fine. Give in to the temptation, but consider it an historical curiosity and a temporary watch, something that will scratch the itch of 'I want a mechanical chronograph so I can play with it'. I've easily gotten my money's worth, and it's still holding +0.5/day.

>>15299050
You're right regarding the servicing costs; an independent might charge around 200$ for a chronograph, and that's very close to the initial price of the watch. I plan to use mine until it stops working, then I'll get some tools and deconstruct it as a hobby to learn more about watchmaking. That is, if my hands don't start shaking in a few years. The 1963 is a temporary watch, a beginner's chronograph. In today's world, that's all it can be.

>>15298802
>>15299036
Sadly he was once on the right path, here's his old Seiko 5 that he bought in 1982, it's nothing special and I now have it because he no longer wanted it but it's a hell of a lot nicer than his Armani shitter.
I fucking hate that shitty watch, he once got quoted £40 for someone to fit a new battery and I told him that I'd do it for the price of a new battery (£3), no problem really but fuck me does the integrated bracelet piss me off, solid end links but the spring bars are almost impossible to fit.

>>15298716
how's the bracelet on Hamiltons?

So lads, I know there's one autistic shitposter just spamming Craig Shipp as a meme. But here's the thing; Craig is more autistic than the average 4chan user (which already is pretty autistic). His video's are shit, his photo's are shit, his sites are shit, yet he can afford multiple GS's etc.

So what gives? How the fuck is that autist able to afford it easily, and I can't? Do people fall for his shity services?

>>15299251
Literally who

Mido

>>15299262
>Literally who
Are you new here? Or don't regularly visit these threads? There's normally a retard spamming his photos. He's just a watch YouTuber who wears grand seiko.

>>15299276
Yeah I don't really come here much
>watch youtuber
you guys are fucking lossrs

>>15299287
Hi Craig!

>>15299275
thats gorgeous

Edox

>>15299287
then why fucking bother replying to that anon ''Literally who''?

you're even more pathetic desu

>>15298956
Low end gs

>>15299275
Too bad it has a powermatic in it.

>>15299315
think its a modified 2892 bud pretty decent movement really

>>15299315
>movement: ETA 2892-A2
>power reserve: 42 hrs
>beat rate : 28800
Doesnt powermatic has 80hrs reserve and lower beat rate?

am i stupid or is it impossible to find a no-date <40mm auto or solar dress watch for less than $1000? they all seem to have fucking date windows

>>15299328
>>15299333
See >>14998821

>>15298442
Artificial scarcity is aids

What notables are missing from this image?

>>15299361
Seiko is missing Lorus. Severely underrated designs from Lorus.

>>15299361
Does Credor count?
It's just Seiko's luxury line, a step above Grand Seiko, but they don't usually but Seiko branding on them.

>>15299389
No. The CRET D'OR line was created in 1975 and is just another seiko line, similar to the Dolce, Majesta, Spirit, etc.

>>15299251
iirc he used to be a watch dealer so while he is autistic and makes shit content he does have more money than 99% of the posters here.

>>15299344
Why? It causes people to value a product more than they normally would. What Rolex is doing is making their product desirable not by directly advertising it but by creating a demand for the product by making it appear rare.

The unfortunate thing is, you can get a basic no-date submariner off of Chrono24 for 6.7k from Japan, lowest price right now. You can get one with a box for 6.8 from America. These watches exist on the secondary market; the only problem you have is making sure that it's genuine.

But then again I take the strategy that if I wanted one of these watches, I'd buy the cheapest authentic one and have it serviced by the makers. Given how my Omega came back (i.e. looking brand fucking new), there's nothing to stop the same from happening if you send a Rolex in for servicing if it has scratches and shit.

That being said, you have to factor in the price of servicing (let's say, 800-1000). If you put that on top of the price you're paying, you're still paying less by going secondary market + servicing as opposed to brand new + premium.

The only reason to buy new is if you plan on selling later on, but in that case you have to make the watch a safe-queen.

>>15299361
Who makes Victorinox watches?

>>15299434
>Who makes Victorinox watches?
Barry

>>15299440
Traser? Luminox? Marathon?

>>15299394
Still, better than any Grand Seiko.

>>15299361
Who makes Oris?

>>15299432
>Why? It causes people to value a product more than they normally would. What Rolex is doing is making their product desirable not by directly advertising it but by creating a demand for the product by making it appear rare.
lol

>>15299457
False. The Credor line has had a really weird history. The Credors from the 90s and early 2000s are mid-range quartz pieces, not the micro-art studio pieces people usually associate the mark with. There are also GS pieces finished to micro-art studio standards (like the GS 8 day) without the Credor mark.

>>15299443
No barry.
This guy.
He makes the watches.

>>15299381
>Lor

>>15299489
That looks pretty alright.

>>15299471
No Gertran.

This Man. HE crafts timepieces.

>>15299515
Disgusting image there friend

>>15299515
HAHAHA THEY CAVED AND REALIZED THE CYCLOPS IS FAGGOT SHIT EVERYONE HATES
YES

Sarx...

>>15299515
>A few more models that will be introduced in 2020 and these have a fixed steel bezel without the inner rotating compass ring. The dial is textured and the numerals and lume appear to be off-white with a yellowish/vintage look.
>these have a fixed steel bezel without the inner rotating compass ring.
>$800

soulless

>>15299535
Does anyone who owns the old alpinist actually use the compass bezel at all? Genuinely curious.

why is Seiko and its fanboys so cringe?

>>15299361
>No Bovet.

>>15299565
No. And if you are going to use it it's impractical and awkward.

>>15299565

No. Everything about that watch is wrong. Peoples love of it is one of the most perplexing things in the watch space.

>>15299565
probably no because most people just use the alpinist as a quirky dress watch

inner rotating bezels used as a compass is not unique to the alpinist even, but its a uncommon feature that made it more interesting. Alpinist is made to be a durable field watch (hence the shock resist and 200WR)

now some of the new models just another watch with faux aged lume and a inflated price tag

>>15299578
it looks beautiful and thats enough

>>15299592
>>15299592

New in a few

>>15299565
I wouldn't expect most alpinist owners know about the compass usage, some of them won't even know the watch has a compass.

>>15299315
whats wrong with powermatics?

>>15297941
I think I might have brain damage because I actually like this a lot

Any interesting new releases for 2020 in the sub-5k range? I'm poor :(

Once I saw it in a store window in Namba, Osaka.
Its a shame AUD is shit compared to Japanese YEN, absolutely stunning to look at.

Any thin dress watches (sub 8mm) under $500?

>>15300147
Anything quartz.

>>15300147
citizen has watches like 4mm.

What's the best looking Seamaster 300 variant, /wt/? Is it really the Spectre one, that's like 20 times more expensive than every other one?

>>15300122
best two tone watch by far

>>15300147
Yes.
>>15298390

>>15298167
>It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood

Certainly is

>>15300530
>>15300530
>>15300530
new thread