/fa/ - Fashion

>>15192270
state of that crystal

>>15192303
Stunning?

What is the best Vostok Amphibian design?

>>15192346
Zissou

>>15192346
Bearded Neptune

>>15192346
The one with dead Russians.

>>15192382
Wes Anderson movies are hella gay

can someone ID this watch
i don't have better quality img

>>15192501
I think it's this, hard to tell from your picture though

>>15192485

gender is a spectrum, and his movies are mostly entertaining

Thoughts on 36mm for a 7 inch wrist?

I’m considering a 114270, but it’s hard to imagine wearing something smaller than 38mm

>>15192520
strap looks wrong

>>15192553
Nothing wrong with it.

>>15192592
Why not just buy a Smiths Explorer for a fraction of the price?

>>15192599
Because the owner is a huge piece of shit, apparently.
>>15189992

Wristlets on the fence about buying an Aliexpress band and bezel for their g-shock squares, worry no longer. You can shave down the piece that holds the spring bar to give the first link a full range of movement instead of the dumb Casio/chink mandated 20 degree limit that would stick out and make the watch look stupid on you like I see in 90% of metal square posts because nobody has a wrist wide enough for it.

Makes the whole package god-tier, I can't imagine owning a shitty rubber square that's going to degrade and turn nasty within a few years now.

>>15192609
I actually prefer the plastic G-Shocks. Feels more space age somehow.

>>15192599
I’ve looked into it, but something looks off about the Smiths. Can’t put my finger on it.

Also it’s blasphemous, but I prefer the 114270 to the 1016

>>15192606
This shit hurts my soul. Smiths used to be a real heritage brand with roots and quality and history. Now the name has been usurped by some douchebag faggot assembling chinashit alone in his basement.

>>15192592
Yeah, every time I see pictures of it, 36mm seems like the patrician choice for that style

>>15192612
I hate how the rubber eventually degrades, and I really dislike how the stock straps stick to your wrist. Given your only other option is strap adapters because nobody makes a 16mm width strap, chink metal is the best bet. Only reason I'd stick with the plastic is if I wanted the lightest watch possible.

>>15192623
Not a fan of the stock strap either so I usually end up getting adapters and putting a canvas strap on it or something but a metal G-Shock is something I could never get used to. They feel great but for me a G-Shock is plastic. I haven't had issues with the bezels degrading except after a good long time, but then again I don't live in a humid area. I hear if you regularly sweat in it then it gets nasty real fast though.

>>15192621
How is he able to sell under the smiths name? It’s not the same company right? I assume the trademark or whatever expired after the original brand dissolved

>>15192609
Link to a guide?

tfw 6.2inch wrist

>>15192631
Yes, the original company died and he was able to swoop in like a shit-caked English vulture. In a better world Smiths could have been reborn like Urban Jurgensen or A. Lange... if only...

>>15192622
36mm is the patrician choice for everything except dive watches and chronos.

>>15192629
I guess if you treat the watch purely as a beater, metal might seem a bit much.

>>15192637
There is no guide, I just invented the method. What you want to do is take the part of the strap that goes into the lugs, and just shave off the point to the red line. You can test it along the way by fitting it back into the watch and seeing if it'll turn through the full range of motion yet. Honestly, I'm surprised nobody else tried this yet, the fat ass first link sticking out at a stupid 20 degrees already bugged the hell out of me after a couple of hours. Now it fits like a glove, and I took out another link because of the new slack.

>>15192643
wristlet located

i don't know what this TC timepiece is but have a bump

stay healthy faggots

>>15192656
Wrist sizes didn’t just explode in the year 2000. Oversized watches are a small blip

>>15192675
>>Wrist sizes didn’t just explode in the year 2000.
They did, but it's because people started weighing over 300 pounds.

>>15192651
Awesome, thanks anon.

>>15192656
Rolex didn’t bump up the explorer to 39mm until 2010. That’s 50+ years at 36mm, which is still the size any aficionado with taste prefers

Most likely, you’re either fat or you’re overcompensating

>>15192685
Lmao, true. Every time watch forum dudes claim they have big wrist, it’s usually a fat ham wrist without even a hint of vascularity

It’s up!
https://youtu.be/RggFKuFdzOE

polishing a seiko snk, changing the dials, and adding a sapphire glass.

Based or cringe?

>>15192705
Based in a nerdy way.

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE MAD HUNGARIAN APE KING TALE
IT ALL STARTED WHEN HE BANNED GRAIL
DRIVEN CRAZY HIS MIND BECAME FRAIL
HIS FACE SUDDENLY TURNED PALE
HE KNEW HE HAD FAILED
WHEN HE DECIDED TO BAN GRAIL

>>15192553
My wrists are 7.5 and I wear 36mm watches. Small is better.

>>15192599
Where can you get them? They seem to be sold out?

>>15192550
>gender is a spectrum
No.

>>15192346
Scuba dude with matching teal bezel and solid metal bracelet. The SE amphibias are very nice, I really like the yellow dial one. I personally love the 170 GMTs.

>>15192705
Depends, what dial are you replacing with?

>>15192767
oh shit I meant watch hands not the dial

>>15192771
Put your hands where we can see them

Dive watches with thin dive bezels?

What watch goes best with a pickup?

>>15192845
g-shock

>>15192550
Gender isn't even close to a spectrum. At most lenient it's a very steep bimodal distribution but even then you're talking about nearly 100% of everyone being very clearly within either the female or male gender just with slight differences in personality. Unless of course you're seriously arguing that gender has to do with fashion choices or some shit in which case you're literally retarded and saying that being a "woman" or a "man" is as shallow as a costume anyone can wear and takeoff as they please and nothing more.

>>15192876
>>15192755
Seethe more

>>15192848
had feeling that would be the first answer. anything else?

>>15192879
I'm not seething. You just believe something that's completely retarded and inconsistent with reality (and your own actions).

>>15192894
Not him, but it's just bait anon.

What are some nice clean looking seiko's for under $150? 34-37mm
I have pic related, would like it on blue dial or something.

>>15192943
How can I have it red like that?
I want that one

>>15192960
I'm really glad that anime watches are becoming more common in our watch threads.

>>15192885
no

>>15192894
Mad

>>15192885
Some tool watch. A seiko tuna maybe.

Daily reminder that grand seiko is for people who, either aren't chad enough, or can't afford a Rolex.

>>15192964
That's not a casio. You would look for something with an LED display.

>>15193050
Look here Mister 'it's a led display' I'm retarded so you gonna go out there and find me a model that I can buy on Ebay

>>15193085
Eat shit

>>15193049
But but but muh finishing

>>15193049
I mean, a new Grand Seiko is about the same price as a new Rolex. I think it's moreso a Grand Seiko is for people who are more concerned about internet points than real life.

>>15192270
anyone know any watches for a size 9 1/4 wrist, preferably all stainless steel, diver or chronograph under 400 and not too ostentatious

>>15193049
Grand Seiko is for those of us who are proud to be self-made weebs..

>>15193200
9.25" wrist? Bruh are you super overweight or a literal giant? I think the problem you're going to run into is finding bands/bracelets that long.

>>15193211
No, finished playing pro football and amateur boxer now 6'3 250 I just started getting into watches and figured 4chan of all places would give an honest description

>>15193212
if you aint fat then anything with a strap long enough. big watch? no problem, it will actually look good. small to normal watch definately might look a little weird and smaller than youd like but youd also be absolutely mogging the idiots who have giant watches overhanging their wrist since you could wear them but choose not to.

>>15193049
rolexes are boring, everyone has one or a fake

>tfw there's no Speedy with concentric circles on subdials and a display case back that doesn't cost $15k

>>15193212
>>15193200
Get a G-Shock Rangeman. You will actually be able to pull it off and it's a sick watch. The old 9400 Rangemans that can be had for 200 dollars, not the new 600 dollar ones.

>>15193212
Well you could definitely pull off the larger Seiko divers like the Shogun/Samurai. You might have a bit of a hard time getting bracelets for your wrist but there's plenty of places you can find affordable and rugged divers under $400. If you're cool with a relatively well known microbrand Deep Blue has a 44mm Master Diver for ~$350 that's built like a brick shit house. Deep blue stuff is a bit too big for me so I haven't personally gone for one but everyone I've ever heard of who got one of them really liked it.

If you feel like spending a bit more the Zelos Hammerhead/Abyss are also both really solid divers that will fit your wrist well and aren't super above your budget.

Usually OEM bracelets only have a max length of about 8.5" but most companies can sell you extra links for a few $ more so you can get the 9.25" length you need if you email them. The big challenge is going to be getting bracelets with enough links for you, not really the watches themselves.

>>15193220

>>15193225
thanks never been a fan of gshock ill check it out, I got an invicta for christmas and Like it, i know invicta doesent have the best rep

pci related

>>15193227
I was looking into the orient mako XL for divers is that any good?

>>15193240
Orient makes great stuff as far as movements and stuff go and they're pretty good for the money. It's got a mineral crystal so it will scratch over the course of it's lifetime unlike sapphire (but it's less likely to shatter if you slam it really hard against something) and their bracelets are kinda crappy in their lower end range but it's a pretty solid choice for an under $200 auto diver in your size range. If you're not super hard on your watches the crystal being mineral might not be such a big deal for you but I'd replace the bracelet at some point with something better like a strapcode. It might seem silly to drop $100 on a bracelet for $150 watch but the bracelet on my Mako 2 had issues and was just generally chintzy.

>>15193251
thank dude nice to see kind helpful people on this site

>>15192270
Id? It’s from last thread

>>15193257
No problem senpai. Good luck with your gigantic wrists. Might as well have some ice on your arm while mogging people doing 1000lb deads overhand.

Thoughts on my furture collection, I have the speedy and club and £3k to the next watch. In no rush looking to add slowly over the next few years. GS, Pam or Reverso next?

>>15193281
panerai sux so literally anything but that

>>15193240
Get a casio duro as a beater, put it on a james bond nato or a leather strap. It's a really nice watch for the price. It would be good to see it on huge wrists like yours since it's a huge watch (44mm)

>>15193281
PAM, because it's the only one that isn't a /wt/ meme

>>15193091
It's been an hour and thirty minutes

>>15193302
It's going to be even longer.

>>15193262
IMO it's a seiko

>>15193212
Post wrists

>>15193321
Thanks

>>15193281
Really can’t see the appeal to panerai but everything else is solid

In Rainbows is the G-Shock of music.

>>15193286
>>15193290
>>15193334

https://youtu.be/Ce5XuF1isdg

I just think the Pam is interesting, hacking 12 clock reset sec hand, 42mm × 11mm for a pam. I have a thing for no date hand wound watches I guess.

>>15192960
baiste
speedfags btfo

>>15193393
Panerais look very clean, but they are so fucking overpriced for what they are. They are a flavor of the month hype brand. They get flipped easily and even when flipped for half the price it's still too much. Nothing about it is impressive and it's a company that's milking old glory and creatively bankrupt.
I'm just trying to help you avoid disappointment

>>15193399
Yea I know about Pam, they are not so hyped now and they are using inhouse movement, I think your views are a little dated but I do understand were you are coming from, they have some practices that turn me off the brand.

>>15193200
you are blessed in a way

most people here complain about big watches they cannot wear

>>15193212
Anything 45mm and up

>>15193262
the model number is on the dial

Seiko gold plated Stainless Steel 7N39-0A18 HR1

>>15192270
you can do away with the "should I ….. mall watch/mvmt" et al, let's maintain these threads for WIS.

This is perfection

>>15193526
GS always looks so underwhelming to me except for a few select models. I suppose seeing the spring drive movement is part of the appeal.

>>15192939
>34-37mm
thats hard range to find

this is cute and sporty retro imo but its 38
theres also the much more traditional dress watch SNKL43K1 at 35mm but the lugs are a bit fat

for ladies watches if you dont mind those there are some but seiko does them at 30mm

>>15193529
You need to see them in person, pics don't do justice really.

>>15193535
I have seen them in person. The shop didn't have them wound though. I saw the divers and ho boy they were thick, and then realized every GS was that way. Wish they could slim them a bit.

Is a $300 sub homage a shitter?

>>15193615
>homage
yes, regardless of price

>>15193615
Homage are kino, don't mind the seething redd*tors

>>15193617
>hurr if its not [X brand] its a bad watch

the rolex sub itself was a homage of Blancpain's The Fifty Fathoms

>>15193625
Thanks bro

>>15193628
I know this you bumbling retard. a $300 ""homage"" is going to look like this. Does that look like the difference between the fifty fathoms and the sub?

>>15193638
>cherrypicks a homage with a giant logo
you can get very nice homages out there

the 1st rolex subs looked like this

>40mm
>$15
>unique design

>>15193644
literally just googled "rolex submariner homage" and picked one of the first results.

in the price range mentioned, you're only going to get shitty rebrands like the exact one I sent. I understand that "homage" in the proper sense doesn't mean this, but at this price you could either call any diver a sub/ff homage or a straight up mimic interchangeably.

>>15193651
is being a brand pig worth spending the extra $12700? ask yourself

>>15192310

My cheapass nokia phone has a plastic display cover, scratched all to hell. How do people with acrylic crystals polish theirs, if they do? Could I use the same method?

>>15193652
I'm starting to wonder if you have reading comprehension issues.

>At $300 any homage is going to be a shitty replica like the one I posted.

>>15193658
Define "shitty"

For me, it's a bagelsport

>>15193660
An attempt to carbon-copy the aesthetics of the original watch while price cutting as much as possible, and without any sort of original artistic input besides a rebranding. Are you being dense on purpose?

>>15193668
So you're basically saying it has nothing really wrong going on with it but the fact that you're upset because they copy the original and just printed another generic name brand on it instead of making something a bit different.

So you're basically UPSET

>>15193651
>i googled rolex sub homage and picked the 1st choices why dob they look like rolex subs

there are definately more unique dive watches around the $300 range. Tons of them.

>>15193676
this is not a homage

>>15193690
>picks a homage that looks more like the sub
hurr thats not a homage

>picks a homage that looks more different than the sub
hurr thats not a homage

stop moving goalposts

>>15193690
>picks a homage that looks more like the sub
hurr thats just copying its not fair

>picks a homage that looks more different than the sub
hurr thats not a homage

stop moving goalposts

>>15193281
Gs is the best looking imo

Thoughts?

>>15193767
Are you a brand ambassador? Are you getting PAID for advertising some brand name? Are you a fan of the brand and want to support their ideas?
If not, why would you EVER wear gaudy shit like that? This is the same as bitches trying to flex with "real" Michael Kors handbags instead of fakes.

>>15192346
710634

What is a good answer to the question:

"If you get such an expensive watch, why would you ever get a second one? You should wear the expensive one everyday"

... thinking of getting a speedmaster and datejust

>>15193810
You don't need anything other than "because I want to."

>>15192631
It's the same as how Sicura bought the Breitling name in 1979, except that was an actual watch company and not a random douche in his basement.

>>15192664
It's some quartz shitter.
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/tiffany/diver--id12233562.htm?SETLANG=en_GB&SETCURR=GBP

>>15192845

>>15193655
Polywatch. Apply, rub, friction melts the surface, scratches disappear.

>>15193655
>>15193842
Also, some toothpastes work too, but not as well.

>>15193786
I actually do like this watch. It reminds me of early 20th century jump watches.

>>15192845
F91W and a hilux.

>>15193049
Craig Shipp has worn Rolex for 40 frigging years before stepping up to Grand Seiko. So there's that

>>15193655
use autosol its much cheaper

>>15193281
GS looks gay. Fuck it.

>>15193526
>>perfectly GAY

>>15193881
>>15193877
>a classic dress just that its slightly bigger

>its gay! gay!

just another overcompensating brainlet

>>15193767
Looks like bathroom scales.

>>15193281
Get the jlc Reverso. It's quite simply a masterpiece.

>>15193651

At the absolute worst, $100 will get you an Invicta Pro Diver which is literally 1/100th of the price of a Rolex Submariner and you're getting about 70% of the way there with the homage watch.

For the average person, it's absolutely a no-brainer to buy the homage instead of the genuine Rolex. No financial sacrifices, great value for money and reasonable quality for the price.

But it's still not a Rolex.

How are Emporio Armani watches?

This one looks a beauty.

>>15193948
See https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

>>15193951
How true is this? Redpill me.

>>15193676
Would have been so much better if they had moved the finger of the 5 minute markers off center. So it would look like some 8bit character flipping you off!

>>15193767
Cool in a retro-shitter way. Like what a chinese bathroom scales manufacturer would thinkg a gucci watch looks like. I'd totally ironically rock that! How much is it? Gimme the aliexpress link please!

anyone ever bought a "drum roller" style watch?

thoughts?

>>15193973

>>15193810
Because you have too much money and you're too stupid to spend it on something worthwhile? Same as every rich faggot with a collection of watches, cars, sneakers, and so on, it's just to shit on the poor in the easiest most braindead way possible.

>>15193967
Bout 1400 gbp

>>15193977

You can also get a mickey mouse one. Although in the UK mickey mouse is a slang term for poor quality or counterfeit.

There is nothing wrong with buying fake watches

Check out /Sleaze/

>>15193953
>>15193948
armani dont make watches, they dont make movements or the case.
they are bought from third party factories and then logo is added on

its the same for most fashion brands. They are fashion clothing retailers

you usually get
1) a name that has no real horological history
2) super cheap no-name OEM quartz movement that get sold for much higher than they should be

some are better quality than others but still...

>>15194019
this is what a quartz movement costs
they buy in thousands so the cost gets even lower
then ok, they get a chinese factory to do the dial and casing
thats about $20 or so. Even the mineral glass is just $1 per piece.
so all in all, the actual worth is maybe $30 give or take.

the rest is all "brand tax". They put their name on it and sell $100, $200. Normies dont know any better, but its not their fault

you can go on alibaba and see, even completely finished watches at $15 usd each

>>15194045
This is really fucked up and is making me angry.

We need Bernie (no joke).

>>15194052
>We need Bernie (no joke).
Because people choose to pay a brand premium? Grow up.

>>15193399
>Panerai
>flavor of the month hype brand
love 'em or hate 'em, that is just objectively false

>>15193981

Ah, look! A pleb!

>>15193811
That wouldn't hold up in court

>>15194174
I wouldn't pay Panerai prices but there watches have really grown on me. They look good, they do some pretty crazy power reserves. I guess Id say they have a consistent design language and most of the watches they make add to and compliment that.

>>15194045
These days you can pick up an automatic shitter movement for 30 bucks from Seiko, dude.

Best watches to buy low right now and flip when the market recovers?

>>15194235
Fuck off

>>15194243
K

>>15194235
Casio

>>15193948
They're Chinese junk. Good looking Chinese junk but they're Chinese junk. If you like good looking Chinese junk you'll probably be fine with it. Just don't have super high expectations in the "value for money" department.

>>15193991
>>15193973
>>15193973
Just buy a casio you sick fuck.
Digital moving parts watches are the worst shit ever, worst of both worlds, meant for gimmicky fucks like history majors or such.

>>15194052

next time bro

>>15194296
>just get a boring casio like everyone else

rude

>>15194327
Excuse me but thats not rude

>>15194045
Whose fault is it then, if not theirs?

>>15193919

why does this picture exist

>>15193973
Cool in it's own way, but I'd rather have this

>>15193948
They are cheaply made shitters produced by Fossil with the Armani name stuck on.

>>15194340
You can't argue with the tech and finishing of A. Lange watches. But their huge sizes and confused case designs baffle me. They are all in comically oversized dress watch cases.

>>15194354
Anything complicated, or at least, with a large mainspring has a larger movement. I don't mind because at least the hands aren't too small like a lot of watches where they just nigged it up because larger was in at the time and left the hands the same. That being said, you can still get a Saxonia.

>>15193948
S H I T T E R

>>15193951
>linking to an image instead of posting it

please fucking hang yourself

>>15193666
Nobody checked these based numbers because they are afraid to admit the truth. Bagelsport shits all over any brand.

>>15194340
>i would rather have a $80,000 watch instead of a $100 one

wow who would have thunk

Any nice microbrands -not- making divers?

im tired of divers

>>15194235
Wait for a g shock collab, get it and resell later. Or any other hypefashion collab watch. But the other stuff looks disgusting most of the time.
I like the new casioaks and hope they make more colors. There are already some more variants but i don't trust this board to be able to tolerate them.

>>15194402
casio needs to just wake up and put lume on the indices already and more on the hands
>b-b-but muh backlight
no

>>15194340
>when the whole budget goes into tech and none into dial design

I couldn't appreciate the technology when i had to stare at that unpleasant piece of shit every day. The importance of proportions becomes clearer when there is an absence of them.

>>15194402
>There are already some more variants but i don't trust this board to be able to tolerate them.

why not i like the casioaks

>>15194420
Because i was like this a while ago. I didn't hate g shocks but none of them seemed interesting. But now i really like these. The purple one and the yellow are great. I think this model is already a hit and hope for even more colors in the future.

>>15194400
Do you mean to explicitly exclude any microbrand that makes divers or just include non-divers from microbrands that might also make divers?

>>15194435
the latter. As long as they have watches that arent divers on offer.

>>15194411
>muh lume
lume is worthless unless its tritium

>/fa/ suddenly hates ALS now
Now I know how that rolex shitposter feels.

>>15194436
Zelos has made a few non-divers in the past and is in the process of coming out with a new manualwind dress watch. Lorier just released a new everyday dress style tool watch (Falcon) that's pretty nice. Nodus had a few field watches under their sector line and are planning on releasing a pilot and dress watch under the sector line this summer as well as a higher end Swiss movement non-diver tool watch.

It really all depends on what you're looking for. Divers are by far the most common for microbrands because they're the most commonly worn men's watch but there are brands that cater to other stuff. A newer brand named Firle just dropped an "everyday dress" watch with a very well regulated STP1-11 movement and an enamel dial on Kickstarter. I'm not sure how good it is in person but reviews seem to like it if not finding it a bit more "fashion forward" than most watch people are looking for.

>>15194467
maybe they shouldnt have made such a ugly watch

>>15194338
Because the jlc Reverso is quite simply a masterpiece

>>15194453
Wrong, retard

>>15193973
Kinda weird, but I could see some outfits that works with … >>15193977 Holy shit, WTF? Minute markers, but no hands, tachymetre, but no stopwatch, Please tell me that's an ironic joke I'm just not getting.

>>15193989
>Bout 1400 gbp
gbp? Is that the official short for Yuan?
So like $200?? WTF, the chinks have lost their mind. That "worth" $20 at maximum.

>>15194467
>suddenly hates ALS now

I have been lurking here for years now. NEVER was there a time where ALS were appreciated by a significant part of /g/, later /fa/. Their dials are strange and not pleasant to look at. And i usually like classic designs. But somehow, these retards manage to make them unpleasant to look at.
It's even hard to discribe what is wrong with them because i lack the words to discribe such a mess. And no price kikery or
>muh luxury brand
faggotry can make them look good to me.

>>15194478
This.
>>15194338
The sneed meme was meant to be ironic and make fun of reddit in a subliminal way. But in the end it's quite reddit itself and forced cringe.

>>15194513
great britain pounds you moron

and gucci is a luxury brand not for peasants

not that you'd know

>>15194235
Is there really anything that's "low" right now?
Maybe you could get some good deals when the shops reopen, but that's certainly going to happen only in the <1000 tiers, so you're going to make like what, $100 at best?
I'm also always on the fence on the whole
>watches as on investment
thing, but so far, I just can't really find anything (besides blowing AD dick for a "rare" Rolex) that's having good chances of being better than a shitty gamble.

>>15194521
>the joke
_______________________________
>your head


Must of Guccis customer base is just peasants, that for whatever reason got a shitton of money.

>>15194538
gucci has a long history and you are just being a jealous poorfag

Doxa Sub 200 or Baltic Aquascaphe? I can't shake the urge for that look and I'm a relative poorfag so no big boy divers.

>>15194513
>>15194521
I actually meant good boy points not great britain pounds but whatever.

Poorfag here.

What’s the best explorer homage? Preferably 36mm

>>15194551
I unironically like the gucci bee and the colors around it. Also their snake. I'd get a fake gucci nato with the red and green stripes and a bee on it.

>>15194589
Smiths explorer. Not only a homage but smiths also went to the everest.
36 mm, and the numbers font looks awesome, just like when rolex was not made for plebs.
Great proportions.

>>15194589
Tisell explorer.
Don't buy from Smiths:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/5bsf7k/advice_timefactors_broken_o_ring_turns_into_my/

>>15194411
>>15194402
>>15194453
Yall niggas have been played, meanwhile me: 40mm diameter, titanum case and bracelet so weighs about as much as a pack of chewing gum, 50m WR, lumed hands and indices, backlit dial; all in all LESS THAN €100.

Take the quartz titanium pill and never look back.

>>15194636
I honestly don't know why people buy analog Casios, if you want analog you buy Seiko. They do it miles better if you aren't looking at the sub 20 dollar market.

Personally, I don't give a fuck about analog, so I'm casio until I die.

>>15194591
you are being trolled

>>15194551
Sure, they have history, as does LV, but when your main thing is selling overpriced logos to disgusting Arabs and chinks, I don’t care for your history. Same with Rolex, btw.
Inb4 poorfag cope. I could buy me a bunch of Guccilvrolexprada, but I chose not to.

>>15194600
Thanks senpai

>>15194621
I wish they had a 36mm version. I’m not a wristlet, so it’s not like I have issue wearing the 39mm, but it just doesn’t look as good imo

>>15192845
field watch or gshock for digital

>>15193994
we say it in the US but usually "Mickey Mouse operation" denoting a poorly run business or project

>>15194640
there is literally no seikos under $50. Casio is the go to when you are really on a budget.

>why people buy analog Casios
because they are cheap and reliable? If you want an analog watch under $20 casio is like the only real brand.

>I don't give a fuck about analog
but many people prefer it to digital. It looks aesthetically better imo. And people still associate digital displays as being nerdy or geeky.

Outside of their gshock and baby-g lines, casio actually makes more analog than digital watches. The entire Edifice line afaik is analog, or ana-digi. All of their quartz ladies watches are all analog, and they make a ton of those. Even for gshock they are now making ana-digi models.

personally i find most of the Edifices kinda ugly. But Casio is servicing quite a big segment of the entry market. If those analog watches dont sell they wouldnt keep making them.

>>15194691
In Europe (and Canada, I think?) "mickey mouse" means that whomever was involved, his/her understanding of the subject came from out of a Mickey Mouse comic. A simpleton's work, so to say.

Y'all quit hatin on Mickey Mouse, now

>a jet lighter that comes with a watch that also comes with a LED light

is it weird i kinda wanna buy this just because of how tacky it is? its $8 on aliexpress

>>15194715
Three functions for $8, so at $2.67 each would you expect a watch, a lighter, or LED light that cheap to work? Like, at all?

>>15194724
*$8 in my currency, in usd its even cheaper

judging by the number of reviews and what they say, its a "good product"

they also have a eagle of freedom if you dont like the dragon, kek

>>15194715
It is about 3-4 decades after QUARTZ was the best thing, why do nip non wing wong manufacturers still try to push their shit with said meme?

>>15194600
This or the Armida a6 in 36mm.
Yes, Eddie is a retard, the watches are good stuff.

>>15194739
>QUARTZ was the best thing
it is still the best thing
dont kid yourself
mechanical watches are an exercise in illogicality and the misplaced "romanticism" humans place on antiquated tech

>>15194715
>chink manufacturing reacts to sleazecore threads
good to see 4chan is still the source of all memes, I guess

>>15194576
For the 1000$ dollar range look at Steinhardt, ginault or oris instead. The doxa is just ugly and has poor lume for the price. Or better yet, save your money and get a true iso certified diver in the citizen bn151. Accurate and utilitarian!

i love watches..I have about 300 plus

>>15194715
To be fair an LED light costs pennies, and a lighter is just fuel + flint. It will probably work with one of the 3 suddenly stopping a few months later.

>>15194750
Yea no. That's silly talk.
Go for the Baltic, proportions are good and have yet to hear of issues with the watch itself or the customer service, apart from some bullshit thread from the bitch niggers on WUS.

>>15194747
Based Citizen poster

where my Russian shitters at

>>15194776
>Yeah no. That's silly talk.
shut the fuck up you loser. No one cares about your shithead opinion. No point in spending that kind of money on SHITTERS. You're the fuckhead friend Archie keeps talking about.

>>15194808
Already knew you were the lonely retard that keeps shilling new shitters every month. This is a new low.

>>15194747
I am of the same practical rationale. Problem is, very little share the same sentiment, I guess. The amount of gorgeous watches, ruined by the unnecessary complication of muh mechanical and thus exorbitant pricing and buttfuckery.
I just want a gorgeous watch that I can keep in a box for a month, or pick up whenever and it will be still on time (maybe a missed date), but still accurate enough. I have pretty automatics that I love the look of, but the winding and adjusting is a pain (kind of a precisionist autist), but if they were quartz,I would wear them day and night.
I could write whole articles about mechanicals being shit and the watch industry heading in .... what direction exactly? All of the oldfag companies are looking for nonexistent problems to bring up and solve, problems you would never have with a quartz, extreme precision, resistance to gravitational and magnetic forces, legibility, extra shit like alarms, time zones, backlight and whathaveyou. A 10 buck terrorist casio would put all haute horlogerie piece to the grave if it were all about practicality and sense.

Yet here we are, lusting after 8 day power reserves, hand-wound deadbeat vintages and whatever else tism niche you have, going for thousands on end.

tl;dr I find it a shame that the market dictates that a high end watch must be muh mechanical chronmetre officially certified memematic etc etc.

Whatever happened to the oysterquartz? Excellent case and dial design, beautiful finishing, unkillable and precise movement. Have watches fallen under the same bane like cars, disposable bling?

pic rel, hand wound tiny case, thicc as fucc, but goddamn if the aesthetics arent to die for

>>15194621
I don't know the whole situation or why the guy didn't sue them. But on the other hand, a british boomer being a total kike and a cunt, yeah, that totally fits. Then fuck the owner i'd rather give the chinks my money. Tiger concept, they are even cheaper than smiths. Their website looks dodgy but i'd risk that with paypal protection before i even consider giving it to some old cunt.
They have several models and movement is a miyota. I just don't know if they still have the model i found online.
>>15194745
Thanks, didn't know about the armida. Looks also nice.

>>15194816
It's not all doom and gloom, there are still plenty of neat quartz watches all around.
For rugged watches, we have the citizen promaster tough, Sinn UX, Sinn Hydro, a bunch of g shocks and protreks.
For more traditional but sporty looking watches, we have the certina DS, longines VHP, gavox aurora, casio oceanus, and citizen exceed.
Then there's The Citizen Chronomaster and GS quartz everyone likes. Or even the seiko dolce, for people who love small watches.

>>15194808
imagine unironically taking advice from Archie

Lmao

>>15193200
>>15193212

just want to let you know that i could bust up your ass. you may be bigger but i am faster and more agile. i could inflict so much pain before you knew it that by the time you realize it you would be flat on the ground on your stomach and probably with your pants half way down.

>>15194812
That's literally what you did
>>15194832
Imagine taking advice from literal whos on a Ukranian basket weaving forum

>>15194747
should have posted the mother of pearl one

also--the indices and logo are applied on a second layer of glass on top of the actual dial, to give the illusion that everything is floating, as the seconds tick away

designs like this are the purest expression of japanese aesthetics, so quiet, understated and immensely elegant.

>>15194816
>>15194831
I, too, would like the average quartz watch to be somehow, you know, better? Like a smooth second hand on an Eco-Drive, or further innovation in the same vein as meca-quartz? Some low-key halfway thermocompensated movement for $20 (in bulk) that stays at 30 s/y at worst? Magical japanese dials-and-indicators UI like the Epson rangefinder camera has?

These recent RF sheniangans don't really impress. Atomic timekeeping would be a good substitute for thermocompensation if it were available in quartz watches in the $100-$200 range already, instead of being a premium feature like two dozen years after introduction.

>>15194848
atomic timekeeping goes against the spirit of timekeeping because your watch is being regulated by outside forces instead of its timekeeping being self-contained

>>15194848
You can get sweeping hands with a bulova, or just a common wall clock. Jump seconds used to be a complicated feature for mechanicals. Also, don't reply to that one shitposter who replied to you first. If you do, he's going to go full tinfoil and complain about being tracked.

>>15194856
are you retarded? it has nothing to do with being tracked.

>>15194831
I know, Im just a bit disheartened.
There are plenty of worthy designs in the quartz sector, just not what "I" would like. geddit? I would want a fully brushed quartz Luminor Marina, but if such a thing existed, who would buy an auto? I understand the manufacturer marketing goals. Looking at microbrands, most if not all are trying to push into the market with muh mechanical. Your pic is a grand example, also other microbrands using or retrying old designs with cheap and practical movements at less than 200 (currency). But very very few have any understading of proportions and good looks. Take Dan Henry for example, amazing reeditions of vintage shit in modern materials with (meca)quartz movements at easygoing prices. Stunning pieces, the lot of them, but Im never ever wearing some whathisface guys name on my watch, unless he is actually someone, like Breguet, Heuer, Gallet, Journe, Parmigiani or Breitling.

My main point: microbrands should focus on design foremost, then put the most reliable and precise quartz heart into it.

>>15194853
In principle yes. In practice it makes the difference between a watch that must be adjusted for DST and maybe short months, and one that self-corrects out of not being set to the second and needs no dicking with thereafter. Underneath it's still an "up to" 30 sec/month quartz movement, which are typically good for like a 90 sec deviation between DST change.

Given that DST is a matter of legislation, any watch that changed it automagically would go obsolete (or require a firmware upgrade -- in a watch, ffs) as standards change to something unanticipated. Contrary to how e.g. leap years haven't changed at all, and how leap seconds are too small to care about in those timespans anyway.

any reasons not to get a Shinola Runwell Automatic 39.5mm?

>>15194867
>n put the most reliable and precise quartz heart into it.

but then it wouldnt sell. most watch folk want mechanical. (muh soul) It would be very hard to convince people to spend more than $100 for a quartz movement from a no name microbrand, the design and materials would have to be stunning. Quartz is still associated with extreme low cost OEM junk, unless its actually coming from a big brand doing something special. Its easier and much less effort for microbrands to just do another sub homage and put a seiko nh36 inside

>>15194880
Overpriced chink shit trying to masquerade as american. It probably won't fall apart on you, but post the one you like and maybe there's a better option out there. If there isn't, then go ahead anyway.

>>15194880
shinola is an overpriced shitter brand, all marketing
>>15194870
the problem is that in order to get everything you want in a quartz watch it would require further efficiency in basically everything and that takes time. it could be sped along if there was interest and thus spending, but swiss have successfully convinced everyone that quartz is automatically disgusting.

>>15194885
>Overpriced chink shit trying to masquerade as american
>>15194886
>shinola is an overpriced shitter brand, all marketing
all I needed to hear. was mostly looking for somewhat american made even if it has Swiss internals.
I'll keep looking around. would also take any recs. Might just have to drop the whole sort of made in america watch desire.
most of my clothes are "handcrafted" in America which I like so figured my next watch might as well be.

>>15194886
>>15194885
source? their "about us" page goes on and on about detroit and america and their factory there

>>15194891
if you want "somewhat american-made" get a hamilton, they are owned by swatch group now (whose stock exchange name is swgay lol) but their history is real and their designs from cases to the dials are all-american. the value is fair too.

>>15194884
>but then it wouldnt sell
I guess it is all that it boils down to.

Either you conform and get what is available, or lurk, learn, buy enough tools and endure enough pain and dive deep enough into the abyss to just say fuck it, and build your grail yourself.

>>15193212
>finished playing pro football
prove it

>>15194831

I met the guy who owns gavox at a microbrand show in D.C.

He was the most passionate seller there and was showing me all the he features of his watch. He offered me a discount but I passed because I thought it was some kind of shitter brand and that maybe he was just a good salesman, because the whole show was packed with a ton of microshitter brands doing just that.

Had I known that the guy was legit I would have bought it.

p.s. the world of microbrands is real fucking weird. Like REAL weird. All the sellers know each other and have little gatherings and shows across the country. These people focus entirely on watches in the $0-$500 range and the guys selling the watches know almost nothing about watch movements, established brands and I don’t even think they actually like watches.

One of the dudes was trying to start a watch company that was entirely based around the history of US Naval ships. He seemed like a nice guy but the whole concept was fucking weird. He had no design experience and but was really excited about his boring looking watches.

The guys from Nodus were stuck up and didn’t even offer to talk to anyone who stopped by their table. They just sat there talking to each other.

The AmeriQuartz table was based though. Those guys knew their shit and were proud of their work. They had a whole table full of watches and gave me a full rundown of how extensive their QA process is and stood behind their work.

>>15194892
shinola launched with that "american made american made" shit and used it as a justification to sell poorly finished quartz shitters for like 500 fucking dollars and up. people actually looked into it and it turns out that everything was made in china. they were actually going to get sued or investigated over it by consumer groups so they said they would do more of the process in america but who knows what that means. "american made" is a very flexible term, if every part of the watch is made in china but then an american's hands put the pieces together they can sell it as american made. it's all bullshit.
this is why the swiss actually have some specific requirements like x percentage of the watch has to be manufactured in switzerland and the development of the watch had to take place in switzerland too, and even that's not perfect but they try harder than others.
I would never fucking trust Shinola, they are a scam company selling fake heritage

>>15194891
All of the former great brands are either zombies, or have been bought by foreigners. If you want american made, you can use RGM, which make shit in Lancaster, PA. I was over there for a ren fair once.
>>15194892
https://gearpatrol.com/2020/04/23/best-new-american-watches/
>It’s not always been rose gold and sunburst dials. Shinola got shellacked by the FTC in 2015 over “American-made” labeling; there’ve been fights over “in-house” claims by up-and-coming brands, and big names like Niall have winked out of business in an instant.

>>15194886
Maybe so. Spose it'll take until solar-powered plastic watches hit it off properly, before there's any pressure to make their movements support even a date window.
>swiss have successfully convinced everyone that quartz is automatically disgusting.
This is true, and unfortunate in a sense, but also means that e.g. an authentic Seiko branded meca-quartz Daytona homage can be had from China for sub-$100. So that's gonna change the market eventually, somewhat.

>>15194894
>if you want "somewhat american-made" get a hamilton
appreciate the rec my man.
>>15194907
>I would never fucking trust Shinola, they are a scam company selling fake heritage
glad I came to the thread and asked.
>>15194908
>All of the former great brands are either zombies, or have been bought by foreigners.
sad desu.

The real problem with American watches is that American watchmakers seem to be incapable of making anything other than field watches and the occasional chronograph.
Please... make a dive watch or something... please...

>>15194891
>american made watches
Even Timex is manufactured somwhere in the Philippies, I would doubt a Detroit company would make their own anything, china parts and then a meme on top.

If you were to get anything really AMERICAN MADE, vintage Hamilton, Waltham, Elgin are your options. Dont ever trust any nu-american brands coming from LA or whaterverthefuck.

If American, then vintage only.

>>15194926
>he wants even more dive watches in a sea of dive watches
there are a million sub homages out there you can choose one

>>15194932
They could try making a watch that doesn't look like a Sub. It is possible.

>>15194382
It's right in the OP, why bother reposting it nigga.

>>15194931
>hundreds of currency

>>15194927
>vintage Hamilton, Waltham, Elgin
and Gruen

>>15193281
id love to have a reverso, so i would pick that. how do you like the club? i like the nacht but i have 6.75" wrists (though somewhat flat) so i was considering a 36 mm instead.

>>15194907
even the swiss cannot make everything in CHE. alot of their parts come from china and many of the top brands are very secretive about where their suppliers lie. Its near impossible to have a real 100% swiss watch because of the labour costs there. They can make watch parts for fractions of a cent in china.

>>15194927
I think I'm just going to get a Hamilton khaki field. Possibly vintage. Maybe the titanium one, probably not as most of the autos are $600~ and this seems overpriced.

>>15194943
oh I know, in fact they recently wanted to update the SWISS MADE rules to be stricter and a bunch of smaller swiss brands were shitting themselves and reee'ing because it would mean they can't put SWISS MADE on the dial anymore. realistically at the very least half of the watch is actually made in china and the swiss just assemble, regulate, and finish it.

>>15194946
why not get a pilot or jazzmaster or something instead of the super boring field watch? you can also get better deals used.

>>15194894
nothing about Hamilton is American anymore

>their history is real and their designs from cases to the dials are all-american
you can say the same shit about garbage Timex

>>15194952
The SWISS MADE laws are extremely lax as is, if someone was reeeeing, they must have been extremely (chosen people) or just poorfags trying to get in on the market.

>>15194954
timex sold out, hamilton was bought out. there is a difference

>>15194954
So like Panerai? ITALIAN DESIGN, but SWISS MADE? All memes combined for a marketing buzzword. Shame though, for their versatile designs extraordinary, but alas, so are their prices. Not really reflecting what you get for your money.

>>15194970
Panerai isn't really versatile. They make 1 watch with different stuff attached to it or made of different stuff, and most of the stuff they attach to it or make it out of makes it uglier.

>>15194340
>they could have made steel version of this for their sports watch instead of the oshitteus
it hurts bros

>>15194979
the odysseus is a good watch they just need to fix the retard lug and bracelet system

>>15192520
Do you see subdials in that picture you Mongol

>>15194954
>>15194964
>>15194907
>>15194900
what about Minuteman? how do they rank on the american scale? many of their watches say they will give 10% to vet charities

and also, Bertucci? that brand is virtually 100% field watches all on american aesthetics

>>15194977
What I meant was, they provide a mix and match for every potential customer, with the same basic models. Want a PVD/titanium/bronze/gold case? Sure. Want a black/small seconds/white/chronograph/alarm dial? Yep, we gotcha. Want all of those in a more polished, less extreme look? We got ya covered with our Radiomir variants out the ass. Whatchu need senpai?

Panerai are the Porsche of watches. They make their few models, with extreme variations and custom options.

pic unrel

>>15194997
I’ve never heard of this brand but they look cheap and ugly.

>>15195016
they had it at $479 and it sold out already

>>15194750
>muh Citizen
Look, I might be poorfag but I don't want to go around advertising it. I've looked at Steinhardts and Oris but I'll check out Ginault. Oris is nice but the aesthetic is a tad modern.

>>15195032
Citizen makes beautiful watches. Most of the best of them them are JDM only.

>>15194816
i think a lot of it has to do with most people intuitively understanding mechanical objects more than electronic. The average person looks at a high mechanical watch and immediately comprehends the beauty of a well finished movement and also the complexity; they'll see the gears and springs and wonder "how can they make a watch out of gears and springs?" because they know what gears do and the know what springs do, but they can't fathom how it comes together. Their is just enough knowledge of working to create intrigue. Comparitively, a quartz watch (especially digital) is a black box. Nobody except enthusiasts, techs, and electronic engineers have the faintest clue how they work, and the movement itself looks boring and thus there is no intrigue. Such is life. The swiss have leveraged this to the max.
>>15194831
>tfw no 40 mm quartz DS PH200 M

>>15195032
>hating Citizen
Why do you hate the common man?

>>15194986
i do agree with that. i wish they went full german meme and made a "steel sport" watch made for bocce ball or some shit like the reverso was made for polo. high end sport watches are so gay man

>>15195056
Here you go lad, the only magic bullshit is taking the vibrating crystal and making it pulse in 1 sec intervals.
https://www.explainthatstuff.com/quartzclockwatch.html

If you told someone from the past that we'd be vibrating crystals to tell the time, they'd call you a charlatan.

>>15195055

>>15195032
Citizen is good, actually.

>>15195055
To the average non-watch-obsessed person, Citizen = mall watch. Just like how Rolex is the only/priciest luxury watch. Doesn't make it true, but 95% of the people I deal with couldn't give a fuck about horology or build quality. So I don't want to have to explain to every insulting zoomer that actually my Citizen is one of the good ones and they should do their research etc

>>15195083
Nobody even talks to you irl, let alone about the watch you are wearing. STFU

>>15195083
Who fucking cares what normal people think?

>>15192939
Seiko 5 are exactly what you want

>>15193666
That seconds hand. Stonks

What do you guys think of Zodiac?
Can I wear it even if I'm not a murderer?

>>15195147
>>15195147
>>15195147
>>15195147

>>15195130
fucking based, redpilled

>>15194927
look how easy to regulate it is

>>15194652
sure thing Amerimutt

>>15194710
For Canadians, Gretzky famously called the new Jersey devils a Mickey mouse organization. They went on to win multiple Stanley cups lol

>>15194747
Based. Citizen and Seiko make the best Quartz watches out there. Casio are good too.

My only thing is, why hasn't anyone tried to make a quartz move like a mechanical? Like a smooth movement instead of tick tock tick tock

>>15195367
they have. there's a bunch of examples but off the top of my head there's the bulova precisionist movement. you get a smoother seconds hand by having it tick like 10x as much. it eats up more battery.

>>15194942
I use to love dress watches > years past > muh sports watch meme, I fell for it a bit but after getting the club it really made me think about my collection (nice to have a few sport watches) but I think I'm going to get the Reverso Duoface. Clubs (38mm) is a keeper for me, I have a 6.5 / 6.7 wrist as well for ref.

Nomos is a great buy used, quality it's 10/10, you need to see the cases in person /wt/ gives them a lot of hate but I dont think they have ever some them in person.

>>15195681
I agree, I had the 36mm Club and it was my daily watch until I got my Seamaster. The watch was very high quality, I might get another at some point. The only thing is the lugs might be too much for some.

>>15192270
Thoughts on the Seiko SPB125J1 kings? Thinking it might be my next buy.