/fa/ - Fashion

OP here, forgot to link to previous as I am a HOMO

>>15159948

$1500 leafbux
silver faced dress
auto or handwinding
leather
38mm or less
i want to look like driver hehe (srs tho)

>>15163378
I personally think anything with a big nasty rotating bezel is ugly. But I wouldn't say 95% of all watches are ugly. What design points do you value in a watch?

>>15163416

Just received this seiko astron from nipponistan. Previous owner must have been a heavy smoker because the box and watch REEK like cigarettes. My room even smells a little like smoke now lol. Still a great watch in great condition, very satisfied with my purchase.

My new baby-g bgd-560 is on the way, the true gentleman's square. The refined elegance, the subtle curves, based on the historical gw-520, a design dating back almost as far as the original g-shock. A watch design that's feels at home in the boardroom, yet feels purpose made for weekends on the yacht. I can't wait to own a true piece of horological history.

am i brainlet? i can't figure out what the bezel markings on this Zombie Eterna's diver mean

>>15163457
not the guy you meant to reply to, but i dont like watches that are too chunky and "machismo"? like those invicta watches which try too hard to be manly and aggressive and add all sorts of bevels and hard edges

dont like boring overdone design tropes either. So many divers try to look like the sub and it all blends together in hellish haze of sub clones and sub homages with all the same round indices and same old boring safe blue green black colours for the dial. STOP IT.

those big yellow divers from vostok europe are visually stunning, even though asking $1k usd for a quartz dinner plate is going a tad far. Wish more companies would try to be like that instead of going the same old safe route and try to look like a rolex sub

Thoughts on the Seiko Arnie? Get to the chopper!!

>>15163655
Id rather get a tuna. The hands and dial look tiny and lost in the deep sea of that massive chapter ring.

...

>>15163655
It's only for really big Arnold Schwartzenegger fans. And by really big I mean literally because the watch is huge and looks silly on wristlets.

>>15163672
Very 70s/80s

>>15163673
Luckily I have beefy wrists. Arnie obviously is going to wear a man-sized watch. Manlets need not apply

>>15163457
the only thing holding monta back from greatness is their fonts

>>15163678
The tuna is still the better choice.

yo what vostok amphibia is closest in size and shape to an skx007?

*blocks your path*

Should I pull the trigger on this? Found one for 2200 usd. Any alternatives for a flexible swiss watch?

Opinions on this, or the original?

>>15163848
Just get an original off ebay for $75.

>>15163835
If you can afford it then go for it. There's nothing quite like rolex ownership.

>>15163887
cuck

>>15163833
This is somehow more dated than huge goofy cushion case divers.

just copped, what do you think??

>>15163923
Better

Latest cop

>>15163848
low rent brand

>>15163923

I'm not a very active guy on this board, so please, be friendly.

Summing up, I am just a poor brazilian guy that wanted a Seiko SNK800's series and can't afford one. I know it only coasts about $90/$100, but converting, it's about R$400/R$500 in my country.
Fast forward, this week I just encountered this (pic related), and feel like i found the perfect first watch for me. I plan to change the case to a chrome case in a similar 1330 module Casio's, if a found one. What do you guys think? Any options at $20 range?

>>15163971
No idea what the availability is in Brazil but look at the lorus RJ655AX9 LNP (lumibrite) watches. Lorus is a sub label of seiko and I see one on eBay for $35 right now.

>I want a Rolex.

>>15164001
Why?
Better safe and buy a JLC

>>15163978
When we talk about avaliability in Brazil, you could consider that nothing good can be bought inside the country. Every imported things avaliable here are expensive as hell due to taxes. Ebay is not an option due to the freight (almost the price of the watches), limiting alternatives to Amazon/Aliexpress.
Although, this Lorus is really nice and it's what I look for, a good alternative to Seiko's.

I've also found the Infantry 8541780338 watch and this MDC that I have never heard about, and don't really know what to expect about them.

>>15164023
>made by infantry
imagine being drafted into the military and they assign you to make quartz watches

>>15163971
>having to settle for modding a quartz because even the cheapest big brand mechanical is out of range

I feel for you brazilbro, and thats a creative solution--

I think you can think about looking into chinese specials on aliexpress. AE often has big sales throughout the year, and you could get a cadisen/guanqin/loreo/starking at $40-$65 when the price drops. These often have seiko/miyota/inhouse movements inside that even handwind and hack (better than whats in the snk800s) and boast very good on paper specs, some even with sapphire crystal etc. Of course with them you are rolling the dice on QC and defects, but the odds are in your favor especially in popular models. I think its strongly worth considering.

Some woman near me is selling a Sicura dive watch and an ernest borel dress watch, 35 dollars each. Should I go for both? this could be my first dive watch.

Hi.

>>15164028
A sad reality, anon. The Seiko's it's not even so expensive, but I refuse to pay about 1/2 minimum wage in my country's money what should coast about 1/10.

I Will consider to save some money and buy a Guanqin or Cadisen. Thanks for your recommendations, bro. Best regards.

>>15163580
>from nipponistan. Previous owner must have been a heavy smoker
Aren't jap salarymen still HEAVILY into smoking cigarettes?
That's the thing I hate about buying used. Even worse when you buy clothing, and it says
>nonsmoker!
in the add, but then it turns out that while a non-smoker, the previous owner was a fabric softener addict.

>>15163655
Ugly as hell, way too big, but I want it! I'll probably have to try a canned tona clone at some point (but in colorfl) , to see if I should get the original at some point.

>>15163580
the only asians that smoke harder than the japanese are the chinese and indonesians. They have cigarette vending machines and even tiny airconed booths for you to smoke in.

t.asian

>>15164059
that looks hideous

>>15164038
>Italian watch company
>Named Parmesani
Can't make this shit up

>>15164040
ya in the value-for-money department the chinks cannot be beat at all. My only major personal gripe with them is that all of their watches are >40mm. Honestly if they just step up their QC game and make smaller watches with more original designs (like the quanqin GJ16034) they will put a fire to seiko 5's ass. Then we'll enter into a golden age of cheap mechanicals and maybe seiko will stop putting the 7s26 in everything >$300

well anyway, good luck to you brazilbro

>>15164069
LOL
It's Parmigiani

>>15164078
Do they have this but without a single Roman numeral?

>>15164037
Please respond?
Is someone familiar with these brands anyway?

Why is every youtube channel about g-shocks run by Thais?

>>15164038
Has parmigiani given any new info on their high frequency silicon escapement? Or is that still just a prototype?

>>15164102
You should go buy them and have sex with her

>>15164037
>Sicura dive watch
>>15164102

>Sicura
>Ernest Schneider was the CEO of Sicura Watches until 1979, when he bought Breitling and became the CEO of the famed manufacturer. But the opportunity to lead Breitling was earned through the great success of Sicura, a brand known for following the trends, but doing so with quality at a price point that was accessible. The demand for dive watches was high from the late '50s through early '60s, and Sicura produced a range of watches targeted at the growing market. These watches were mainly "skin divers," which were a class of dive watches best suited for the light submersion that was typically associated with skin diving, which today is know as snorkeling. These watches featured a rotating bezel and a highly legible dial, but focused less on water resistance and more on affordability and accessibility.
Sounds good to me. And the design itself is great, if it works, why the hell wouldn't you, it's practically free.

>>15164088
not exactly, and without the scalloped/hexagonal edge and sunburst dial
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32675350931.html

theres also a cheaper ones with an inhouse(seagull..?) movement
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32682994255.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000256482715.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028406761.html

>>15164069
Imbecile amerifat

>>15164062
Yes. That's why I like it!
>>15164069 >>15164087
And it's Parmigiano for the cheese. Make of that what you want.

>>15164078
>My only major personal gripe with them is that all of their watches are >40mm
This. Even more so for the few modern, original designs they have.
I think pic related is actually a well executed skeleton with an interesting design (except for the shitty logo on the dial, but for that price, I probably could risk taking apart the watch and removing it), but fuck strapping a diner plate to my wrist!

>>15164102
If you like their looks and they work, you can't really go wrong. I'd totally get that diver! I love old shitter brand divers!

>>15164054
I have no idea but i've never experienced anything like this. As soon as i opened the bag it came in my room immediately smelled like smoke. And it's not even the pleasant kind of cigarette smell, it straight up smells like the chemical shit in cigarettes that kills you. It's starting to subside now that i've given it a chance to air out. The watch itself smells like a vegas casino. Probably getting some kind of second hand smoke from this, but fuck it i love the watch.

>>15164143
I have seen a handful of chink watches that are 38mm. I really like some of these copies of old chink designs that sea-gull has done.

>>15164155

>>15164143
yea that IS a cool design

>Circumference 45mm x 45mm
:s

>>15163476
OR, get the Tisell for 200.

>>15164158
These 3 that I've posted are all 38mm. Clearly you have to be in to this look of old Chinese watches but I will probably pick one of them up soon.

>>15164155
>>15164158
>>15164177
thats kinda rad. how much are these? approx

>>15164177
>purposefully buying made in china watches
....why? Am i missing something here? Honest question, am i missing out by not buying chinese watches?

>>15164155
>>15164158
Ref. numbers? I like these

>>15164181
not him but i found it
https://www.seagullcanada.com/products/genuine-seagull-classic-mechanical-limited-leather-strap-re-edition-51wuyigolden-dial-self-wind-automatic-mens-watch-fkwy

https://www.seagullwatchcompany.com/products/seagull-pp-styled-iconic-limited-edition-automatic-watch-fkwx

>>15164179
i think its just commie-chic /quirkiness and value
for example seagull makes actual tourbillons that are in the ~$1000 price range, you are not going to get that anywhere else

>>15164179
You stop kidding yourself by buying SWISS MADE, instead you get the same shit for a fraction of the price.

MADE IN CHINA WITH PRIDE

>>15164179
Haven't yet tried it, but apart from the chrono that gets memed everywere and the endless stream of fakes, err… homages, you supposedly can get some decent cheapos from chinkland, but originality is kinda hard to find and QC supposedly is a gamble.
I'd like to give it a try, but I feel that in the current situation, I shouldn't waste money, even if it's literally sums that get lost in the noise of my accounts movements, but still. Guess it's the thrifty swabian in me.
However, I have one shitter (shitty on purpose) in the mail from china, and I'll review it here if it arrives at my doorstep.

>>15164179
>>purposefully buying made in china watches
>....why?
You are getting a watch with an in house movement, in this case based on 50+ year old heritage designs and probably made mostly in house of in house parts for ~$200. They proudly advertise that they are made in China and are mostly produced for the domestic market so you are getting a product built to some kind of standard. It's not the same as buying chink rolex clone #275 or whatever.

>>15164178
They are around $150-$250 depending on where you look.

>>15164179
Not all chinese watches are shit.
Hell, most of the swiss companies get at least part of their stuff from China.

These are actually pretty cool, same as the 1963. The 1963 was the first chinese made watch; they bought the movement from a defunct company (Which also used the exact same movement for early Breitlings, among others) then came the dongfeng, the first designed and made in china movement/watch,

Theres also Celadon or whatever there called which pitch as a 'proudly chinese' high end brand which makes some cool (but probably more middle tier desu) watches. Still pretty cool and it's not as common as your regular swiss fare.

>>15164205
movement looks fucking kino as well

>>15164203
Sorry the watches are based on heritage designs. I don't think they are using 50 year old movements in them.

>>15164208
It's pretty nice. Should really take some better pics sometime.

>>15164210
Post the dial, nigga.

>>15164212
Pic doesn't do it justice to be honest.

>>15164212
there you go son

>>15164210
Nice and proud.

>>15164215
How is the strap?

>>15164205
>>15164210
never knew such a company existed...very interesting

specs are great, its mid tier price range but the goods seem to reflect that

>>15164219
The stock strap is pretty mediocre to be honest. That blue strap is a custom alligator strap from aaron bespoke which is very nice.

I ordered it with a blue strap initially but celadon told me they didn't have any so they'd send it on the brown strap right away then send a blue strap later. Then after 3-ish years of excuses, delays, then asking if I didn't mind it being the rubber/leather strap they made for the yue fei instead they finally sent a blue strap to me. That's not the strap in the pic obviously.

>>15164205
>>15164208
>>15164210
>>15164215
>>15164216
Nice. How much and where?

>>15164215
watch runs good? any issues? im very piqued

>>15164235
It's a maison celadon imperial, and about a kilodollar.

>>15164236
It's not super accurate from what I remember of having it on my timegrapher, but it's a 2-hander so it's not like you're going to notice it being off a few seconds per day. I did have to take it to a watchmaker a while ago since it jammed from pushing the crown back in but that hasn't happened since.

>>15164038
Superior taste

>>15163412
which year model does this look like

>>15164296
1830s

>>15164236
It's accuracy was.... Ok, if I recall. I sold mine a while ago but it was running a minute or so fast
>>15164237
You can get it cheaper secondhand, try on watchpatrol
>>15164296
60's? Based mostly on the bracelet which might not be original

>>15164246
>>15164312

hmm ok, thanks!

>>15164112
She looks a bit old, probably selling the collection of a dead relative, not really sure about it.

>>15164144
Yeah I've been looking pictures of the watch on google and I really like it so far, looks like its the 40mm model but for a diver watch the size can be expected, I understand the seiko skx0013 is a bit smaller, but that one's a bit out of my price league atm.

>>15164113
Yeah sounds good to me too, I still have trouble swiming on normal pools so I don't pretend to go snorkeling soon anyway. I'm mostly buying it to have a diver watch in my collection.

Why are heat blued watch hands considered such a premium feature? I've seen people heat blue parts before and it takes a second or two, it also seems like it could be automated pretty easily, yet heat blued parts are on much more expensive watches than ones with painted or chemically blued parts.

>>15164317
>I still have trouble swiming on normal pools
Dude, seriously? You gotta fix that! So get the diver and see it as a motivation to get better at swimming! Who knows, maybe some day you will even snorkle in the ocean?

gonna try tevise for the meme

>>15164333
Get the quartz one. Its actually really fairly priced and surprisngly good quality. I have both the quartz and automatic and the automatic is just shit tier. Can't even keep hours nevermind seconds.

>>15164360
the T801 yeah?

>>15164370
Yeah

>>15164325
I'm not sure theres a fix for it, I remember going to a summer swimming school when I was in highschool, and I heard the teacher talking with his assistant, and he went, "there are some people that, no matter how much they try, they can't learn how to swim, at best, you can teach them not to panic immediately if they fall on a body of water, but when the stamina in their arms and legs runs out they won't be able to float normally".
I think I'm one of these cases, you see ever kids just floating in a pool with no major movements? Just lightly moving their legs and arms to mantain balance while they talk? Thats the one thing some of us can't achieve, I can swim for about 20secs in a stright line, but once I stop swimming I can't do the normal float and that tends to call for the panic moment.

>>15164325
What a disgusting photograph of a great watch.

Asumming you are one of the few people on 4chins who has sex, do you wear the watch when fuckin? For the other 99%, do you wear a watch when sleeping?
The 3 times I've had sex I didn't own a watch but if I had nowadays I would probably wear it, since I would satisfy my wannabe bateman/pornactor fantasy and if the chick says "why u wear watch" I would just be like "oh I didn't even notice"

>>15164388
>"there are some people that, no matter how much they try, they can't learn how to swim, at best, you can teach them not to panic immediately if they fall on a body of water, but when the stamina in their arms and legs runs out they won't be able to float normally".
I can't do that floating shit either, whenever I try to it uses way more energy than swimming, but I'd call bullshit on the other part.
Swimming marathons or doing a good and fast breaststroke? Sure, that's probably something not everyone can do (without insane amounts of training, at least), but some basic recreational or not-going-to-drown swimming? I can't fathom how one could not learn that within reasonable time and with reasonable training.
In fact, last summer I even learned to swim with a breasttroke, after not being able to do so for like 30 years. Still far away from good, and I think it's a retarded way to swim, but I can do it now!
>>15164416
It's from their official (?) webshop.

>>15164419
>do you wear the watch when fuckin?
boctokblowjob.jpg
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't
>For the other 99%, do you wear a watch when sleeping?
never.

>>15164433
so many fun dials to choose from

>>15164433
It's from their official (?) webshop.

Shot with a shitty russian knock-off of a camera then, that explains it. >>15164436 looks much better, probably more recent pic.

Have swatch finally made a decent looking watch?

>>15164458
"No!"

poor fag here, should i?

>>15163650

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/eterna-kontiki-bezel-4551173.html

>>15164509
>brooklyn
no
I live in brooklyn

>>15164509
>Gowanus
>anus
Yes!

>>15163835
Nah, save up for an actually nice Rolex.

gf got me this roley a while ago

>>15163412
Lol, nothing beats a g-shock

>>15164591
Hold up, there's some guy here who wasted a few thousand bucks on something less accurate than a 10 dollar casio that needs to live in a fucking rotating prison overnight so it doesn't lose a few hours who has something to say about that!

In 50 years, maybe his watch will still be running! Yours will have needed a battery change, and maybe even a polariser replacement, for a total cost of 30 dollars. And all he needs is a full service every 5 years that costs more than your watch to keep his watch potentially functioning in 50 years, assuming no major damage like falling off his wrist onto concrete!

>>15164606
>polariser
Is this what quartz weens call the watch glass? Such as how hautefags would say "crystal", like they're about to pop it in their mouth for a quick suck.

>>15164609
No, the polariser is the foil beneath the glass.

>>15164606
> Other people like things that I don't
Why are you salty about it?

What's your dream 4 watch collection?

>>15164205
muh dick,clean dial, blue hands,and classy case.

>>15164739
Vostok*22

>>15164565
Is that a 14060?
Also why does your hand look like it's low-poly even though it's not, Sort that shit out

>>15164753
Hello newfriend

>>15164739
Eventually I know I will get at least three of them, currently owning just the Casio, and maybe in a couple of years will buy the speedy or the stowa. The JLC will probably remain as a grail,really love the design, but it's expensive and my plan is to wear the watches and that watch isn't exactly a everyday watch or a tool watch like the speedy or the casio.

Any alternatives for absolutely stunning dials besides grand seiko?

>>15164810
Casio aq-230

What kind of a watch do I need to wear to attract pic rel?

>>15164810
old, non-grand seiko

>>15164819
holy fuck seiko needs to fucking step up their current dial game ASAP

>>15164816

>>15164819
Those go for even more than a normal GS quartz and it's the only one of those I see. Otherwise it's the linen dials.

>>15164816
unironically, a rolex

>>15163431
Go vintage. Just go on Chrono24 or whatever and search by price, size and age. 1000-1500 you can get Le Coultre or IWC or something.

>>15164832
> There are 3803 models with that dial
> There are 5606 models with that dial

are there any recent watches that will be considered classics like the vintage watches everyone talks about now?

>>15164834
Air-king will do?

>>15164819
That dial is crazy. What the fuck even is it?

My grandma has one of pic related and she says I can have it. Smith's were a very nice British brand but does the case shape make this look too dated to wear?

>>15164853
it's old but very charming, I would wear it.
too bad smiths is now owned by a fucking faggot

Has anyone here actually bought a vintage watch from chrono24? Did you have to pay extra importation taxes on top of the shipping fees?

I’m from a shit tier 3rd world asian country - and I have been considering buying a used seamaster over on chrono24 but I’m not sure if it’ll pass customs clearance (or mode of delivery); officials here are corrupt as fuck.

>>15164853
It's cool, anon

>>15164860
I wouldn't say that Smiths is now owned by anyone, some faggot just bought the rights to use the name

>>15164876
well he has the name now and he's a fag

>>15164838
idk man. the watch industry is in a much different place now then it was during the glory years when all the classics were being minted. that said, collectors are a funny bunch and its hard to say. How recent do you mean? Some shoe-ins would be the lange 1 and datograph, seiko snowflake (even if you don't like it its impact has been undeniable for a newer watch), and maybe a nomos (probably a tangente with one of their more exotic movements). My dark horse pick is a version 2 seiko orange monster because it was cheap, ugly, unique, and pretty well made for the price. It seems like the type of watch that people will look more fondly at with time. It also had relatively low production numbers for a cheap seiko because everyone thought it was ugly iirc lol

>>15164841
Nah, you need a submariner at the very minimum. Honestly you'd probably just be better off buying an invicta to impress non-watch people

>>15164914
Monsters are already selling for 3x their original prices, it's insane. I have the orange and black one and I'm glad I ended up buying one. The watch is undeniably fugly but it's ugly in a charming way and there's nothing like it.

>>15164863
That entirely depends on what your country does. Sellers from the United States are unlikely to fake customs values for you, because occasionally people actually get in trouble for it here.

>>15164739

>>15164829
This but unironically. I could totally see some frat boy with a Hawaiian T wearing this

>>15163835
Usually a cheap one will be polished to shit or have something wrong/wrong parts. Spend a little more and buy a nice example. Picrel is polished af, but the superglossy silver 'gilt' dial makes up for it.

>>15164936
Man, does it really have to say FREAK on the watch itself? Was that always there?

>>15164838
Hard to tell because of trends, but generally there have to be enough people buying the name to care. Take for example that not many people gush over richemont group vintages. If any of the well liked microbrands ever go big, they will become classics. Unless it's CW.

Safe bets:
Strangely many seikos probably will. As soon as seiko makes a new movement that saves them even more money, everyone will wring their hands and complain that the old ones were good and better even if they were the ones complaining about 6R15s from the last time they pulled that stunt.
Any of the swatch group probably will have some staying power simply because of the name.

Rate the artwork on the back of this $20k tourbillon watch from sea-gull

>>15164836
Nice Orient Bambino homage.

>>15164943
for that watch, it works

>>15164936
Interesting choice. I like it. Would love to have one of those Blancpain porn automatons as the end all, fuck you watch some day.

>>15164946
What's going on there? Is he jerking off while supporting the weight of a woman on his dick? Why not just put it in her? Is this some esoteric Chinese thing?

>>15164946
what's the front of it look like?

>>15164936
>Overseas
But why

>>15164943
It's a freaky watch. Why wouldn't you want it to say FREAK?

>>15164981
Because even though it's unconventional it's still too classy to have FREAK written on the watch itself. Unless they release a special edition that has a little dancing James Brown on it.

>>15164936
I bet you smell bad.

At what point does a microbrand stop being just a microbrand? For instance, Christopher Ward's catalog size suggests a production capability much greater than say, Raven, Halios or Nth.

>>15165005
Christopher Ward has been a legit brand for a while, people just hate them for some reason

Should I ever get an autotragic again (doubtful), it would surely have to have a power reserve indicator.

Speaking of, are there any affordable autos with more than 50h PR?

>>15165044
don't bother all the affordable autos with over 50h reserve use lower beat rate movements

>>15164941
Check out Edward Boomerhands over here

>>15165054
Im not the one for a smooth sweep. Honestly, Id rather have a precise second of the quartz, but most if not all quartz watches have shiiiiiiit design.

Need band suggestions plz

>>15164860
>>15164876
>>15164878
Called him once to ask if I could send a watch back for service, can confirm he's a huge faggot. Still love the watch, though.

>>15165044
Anything with a powermatic, and the 6R35

So I just asked Yema's CS if it's possible to remove the bezel lock and apparently they can do it on their end if you specify it in the notes section.

>>15165071

>>15164037
Yes, buy them right away.

>>15164816
What >>15164834 said. It's important to put on an air of a guy who, even if what she sees is all he has, can still feed her for years.

>>15165071
The hell is the reverse V?
AZBUKA has no such letter? What country is the watch from?

To your question, everyday use, or occasion?

>>15165104
It's a cyrillic L.

>>15164739
4 Vostok.

>>15165107
Is it? Ive looked around and the P is fairly simmilar to L, havent seen a reverse V, or A without the dash anywhere. I this some Belarussian commemorative piece or sth? Do you have some background info?

>>15164113
>>15164144
>>15165092
holy shit guys, I did it, what an experience this was, I was dealing with a woman but in the end she gave me her husband number and we coordinated a meeting, the guy took me to his home and he showed me lots of watches, watch parts, and he teached me some things and what not
The dive watch (35 dollars) works under water (will post pics in a minute) and I didn't bought the ernest borel because in pictures it looked nice but irl it had an ugly yellow-looking patina in the dial that just wasn't my taste, instead I bought this other chronograph watch, it was quite a bargaining because he was asking for 93 dollars and I really didn't feel like paying that much for ut, so I offered the shitters that I bought on ebay when I was just starting into watches (a HMT that was dirty cheap like 5 dollars, a russian raketa and a swiss "royal" brand shitter) plus 35 dollars and it was a deal.
70 dollars both, pretty good deal for a chronograph and a diver both mechanical if you ask me.

>>15165075
Arent powermatics extremely shit, though? Ive seen some people here rag on them quite heavily.

Microbrand Shill here. Anyone else have too many that you're excited for to pick one or am I just too much of a consoomer and I need to take a break? Something about the scarcity and the massive specs per dollar makes them so much more appealing to me than similar priced pieces from major brands. For example the new Hamtun Kraken K3 that just came out today on Kickstarter is very tempting to me even though I really can't justify dropping $700 on a GMT because I don't really travel enough to make having that second time zone worth it to me. Nodus is also like a month away from the Contrail 2 and new Avalon and I'm much more attached to Nodus than Hamtun because Nodus does their own assembly and regulation in house to get much better longevity and accuracy out of fairly standard movements.

>>15165125
Damn son, when I was a kid, my grandparents and I visited some family friend who had a yuge collection of watches, would kill to have a look a them now.

>>15165128
I'm kind of off the microbrand kick because half of the ones I'm interested in I never find out about until they're already out and then they're sold out everywhere and only available secondhand at like 200% of the price. That and I'd rather have like 5 or so solid watches than the 20 microbrand watches I want. There's just not enough wrist time for them all.

>>15165126
They're the most accurate thing for the dollar if we stick to mechanical. The only complaint is service.

>>15165126
People here rag on all sorts of things for no real reason. The powermatic is slightly less serviceable than the base ETA 2824 but uses a better quality mainspring metal on many of the variants. There's slight differences in the lubricants that they use as well to match the materials differences but as far as I'm aware the only real reason to stay away from the powermatic is that it's new enough that nobody can really know the 5 year failure rate.

It's very similar to the SPT1-11 and the PT5000. They are both well built movements from companies that were used to manufacture ETA components prior to establishment of their own independent venture but they are both new enough that nobody can really know the failure rates beyond acceleration testing methods. There's nothing wrong with either of them and they're both better value for money on paper than either an SW-200 or ETA-2824 but nobody knowing the long term failure rates are what keeps smarter people away. There's always going to be morons who assume that everything that isn't either ETA/Sellita/High Horology are garbage just because of brand attachment (despite literally every high Horology brand including Rolex sourcing many components from companies like Swiss Precision Technology and HKT).

>>15165128
Take a heavy breather and a cold shower or five. Let the experience seep in a bit, look around, see what triggers your aesthetic autism and what you like, the more you see, the better of an understanding for your personal tastes you can develop (and thus have a harder time finding what actually ticks for you, but hey, searching is most of the fun, saving up and looking for the grail is the rest). You will most likely come up with a few very specific requirements, none of which will make logical sense, but a single pusher chrono with a thin bezel and 34mm diameter is just something you cannot apply logic to when looking to spend money on shit that will make you happy.

>>15165157
The most concerning thing is the low-end powermatic variants with the lower jewel count with "high-tech synthetic escapement" that Swatch won't describe in any detail. Higher-jeweled versions are probably fine, although they're a huge pain to regulate.

>>15165126
Just read through these posts on the powermatic
>>14232332
>>14233244
>>14233256

>>15165125
Holy patina batman! But yeah, at that price that's expected. I'd give it some polishing, but not too much. Just don't be too certain about the water resistance on a watch that old.

>>15165165
no bueno

>>15165128
>its another diver/sub homage

wake me up when they actually offer something new

all rook same

>>15165177
>that looks like a sub homage
have you ever seen a sub

>>15165183
big chunky bezel round indices blah blah blah

ALL ROOK SAME

oh no this one has squished circles for some of the indices, better spend $500 and buy it!!

>>15165187
If your idea of a sub-homage is that it has a bezel and some of the indices are round then I guess you could call it a sub-homage. You'd also be completely retarded, but you could use that as your standard. If this is an homage to anything (it's not) it's much closer to a Yachtmaster than a submariner. Either way the Zelos Mako 3 is pretty far from an homage watch. The dials have a very unique Whirlpool texture and the overall design is nothing like a submariner.

Also, Zelos does offer other things and has done field watches (and is coming out with a manual wind Swiss made dress watch in the next couple months) but yes the divers are the most common market for microbrands (hint: It's because the most commonly worn mechanical watch is a diver so obviously brands are going to go for what men already buy).

>>15165211
im talking about the hamtun, dum dum

why buy that
why buy 20 pairs of jeans that look roughly the same?

>>15165213
>>15165211
obv zelos at least has unique watches, even if some of them dont work out, it wasnt a jibe at them

>>15165187
It's not a sub homage, but I agree that pretty much all "microbrands" just make divers with quirky indices

>>15165213
The main appeal for the Hamtun for me is the hardened titanium and that I don't have any full lumed black bezel divers. I also don't have any GMT's and a Swiss made GMT under $700 is a lot better buy than pretty much anything you'll find from the major brands. Also, you're smoking rocks if you think the Kraken is a sub-homage. It has a very different look. The bezel isn't scalloped like a sub, the indices are chunky and rounded rather than thin and straight, the date is at 4 instead of 3, the hands are completely different and the bezel styling is different with smaller more spaced numbers.

I get it that you don't like divers, but you need to get your eyes checked if you think that the Hamtun K3 is a sub-homage.

>>15165236
>let me just list a bunch of small differences to show its not like the other

>the date is at 4 instead of 3
really niggah...?

wake me up when they make a watch with a textured neon cyan dial or something like that

>>15165125
well nevermind the diver watch video test, I spent too much time messing with the bitrate to get filesize right for the webm, the thing is, I put the watch in a glass of water and it works.
Also I'm still trying to figure how the chronograph works. The buttons works and the hands jumps quick.

>>15165245
They have 3 different textured dials as stretch goals (which they've already hit on the first day) and one of the original color options is a bright burnt orange.

>>15163971
>plan to change the case to a chrome case in a similar 1330 module Casio's

That is a nice idea and will be fun. The module should fit. Maybe you will have to stuff something under the mechanism and the caseback of the new case.
But otherwise it should fit.
>infantry
Watch some reviews, i think their quality is really bad.

Get this casio model. Even in plastic it's super comfortable and looks great. I have the mq-24-7bll and it's great, even for the cheap price.
Also try: Timex expedition scout, timex camper, and casios mrw 200 series.

The MRWs are all plastic but i love their design. And if nobody in germany gives a fuck about them being plastic, nobody will give a fuck in brazil. People will love the colors on the dial.

>>15165104

It's a soviet watch from a brand called poljot, I think it says "poljot moscow," not sure of the language.

I was thinking of a silver band to go with it.

>>15163971
Adding to my post >>15165263

The casio you want will have a very flat caseback. The metal casio case, (maybe you can find a broken casio and source the case from that) will have a higher sitting caseback. But on the pic you can see how easy the movement is and you can add spacers so it sits tight. Folded piece of paper will do the job fine.

>>15165104
>>15165121
It's a cyrillic L but just in a different style. I guess it was inspired by how people write the letters. Check out the similarities in the pic. There are several styles of writing russian letters. Some are just to write them easier and faster.

>>15165271
>not sure of the language.
It's russian. Poljot is russian and even if they would produce in belarussia, they still would use the russian language. Belarussian is similar but a bit different variants of the letters and grammar.

>>15163923
I think your bullshitting, post timestamp

>>15165422
goash do you really think so?

>>15165125
The rubber seals on the diver might not be good anymore. Don't put it in water again. Bring them both to a decent watchmaker to have them serviced. Those watches will probably fetch you a couple hundred bucks in a year or two, or maybe even now. Service won't be cheap, but its worth it. Do research into who is a good watchmaker near you. Go on forums and ask about your watches after you do at least a little googling yourself. Be polite there and introduce yourself, it's full of boomers who want to feel superior about their knowledge. Nice catch, anon.

>>15164816
Seiko sumo.

>>15164565
(you)

>inb4 it's not a reverso
>perfectly proportioned unlike the reverso
>most symmetrical watch in the world unlike the reverso
>doesn't have a hinged case gimmick unlike the reverso
>aesthetically superior to the reverso
>a modern size unlike the reverso
>not baby's first jlc unlike the reverso
>thinner than the reverso
>uses the circle shape unlike the the reverso rectangle before human kind discovered the wheel
>higher polish than the reverso
>more expensive than the reverso
>superior to the reverso in every way
>less likely to get stolen than the reverso
>good movement unlike the reverso

>>15163412
Some day

>>15165060
Stay mad, fatty.

>>15164816
a sandwich

\she cute tho

>>15164959
looks like one of those old time chinese sex manuals

Damn, this is super japanese. It screams it harder than a geisha after WWII.

Would you ever have a caseback engraved?

>>15165692
damn you can almost hear the mitsubishi zeroes

>>15165624
Nice rep

>>15165624
Isn't it a bit big? Looks good otherwise.

I have the beat watch here.

>>15165757
Best*

>>15165624
It's not a reverso though, is it? Too bad

>>15165757
Nice fake

Best watch to use in my rural life?

>>15165785
Is it? What do you mean

>>15165624
>lying on bed
>fat
>into watches
>on 4chan
>identical arms to me
I found my rich twin!

>>15165757
Pretty clean, how much did you get it for

>>15165799
It was gifted to me

>>15165741
what makes you say that lol

>>15165789
>>15165838
A shitposter from a few threads ago got BTFO when he posted fakes, now he's just doing this

>>15165869
kek

>>15163647
I love wearing things that say Baby on them

>>15164739

>>15165225
Nice yo-yo anon! This is mine

>>15166028
>>Patrician taste

How's your quarantine going?

>>15164739

>>15164458
as long as they have that disgusting "muh unisex" femme curvy shape it all looks bad

thoughts?

>>15166128
>>GS
LOL, aspirational nip wannabe

>>15164458
Seems to be

>>15166148
>he says that as he forks out another $13000 for a 'lowlecks'

>>15166146
What's with the distortion on the tachymeter? Besides that, it looks kind of cool and not like your typical cheap looking mall shitter Tissot.

>>15166148
understated, elegant, with a seconds hand smoother than any swiss watchmaker resting on their heritage can achieve, at a price 1/3 of what they are charging

whats not to like?

>>15166146
>4:30 date window
This kills the dial design. Really wish watch manufactures would stop doing that shit.

>>15166177
might depend a lot on the angle

debating it or a captain cook

>>15166179
>1/3 of the price
I wish that were still true.

>>15166181
They probably heard some autists complain that the date window takes away symmetry from the lume/markings/whatever, so they moved it. I bet you were one of those people.

>>15166192
I'd rather they just not put the date window in at all to be honest.

>>15166189
how much are they now?

>>15166179
>a seconds hand smoother than any swiss watchmaker resting on their heritage can achieve
False, even if that were an at all relevant point of excellence

>>15166201
If you look at collections and still see the reasonably priced ones, those are the old models.
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f642/whats-going-grand-seiko-seiko-pricing-5052227.html

>>15166212
>False
show me something swiss made smoother than spring drive

>>15164174
This. It’s beautiful on a nicer strap

>>15166221
>smoother
Who said smoother.

Here you go, exactly as smooth as spring drive.

>>15166230
Oh, and what's that, it draws on Swiss patents for a mechanism identical in concept to Spring Drive that predate Seiko's developments by years? Remarkable.

I'm a huge Seiko fan and own several of their modern and vintage watches, but just making stuff up is embarrassing.

>>15166230
wow it's hideous

>>15166230
ugly and late to the party

>If you've kept abreast of developments in mechanical and quartz horology this approach will of course immediately remind you of Seiko's Spring Drive technology. Both Spring Drive and the 700P use a standard mechanical gear train to turn a combination generator/regulating organ.

>The Seiko "glide wheel" turns eight times per second, while Piaget's rotates 5.33 times per second.


>>15166233

It has been said in some quarters that there is a Swiss patent from 1972 for the same idea, although I've been unable to find such a patent in the European patent database. However, a Jean-Claude Berney (et al.) registered a patent for the same idea: a generator whose rotation is driven by a mechanical gear train, and which is controlled by a quartz timing package.

The odd thing about the patent is that a priority date of 1972 is assigned but it's my understanding that this is a claimed date of origination for the idea; the actual patent was filed in late 1973 and not granted until 1976. And in an additional twist, Berney himself wrote in this untitled paper from the late 1990s that the idea was "first described" by him in 1978.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/pre-sihh-2016-the-piaget-emperador-coussin-xl-700p

What are some nice watches under $750? I looked at the poorfag guide but I can afford something a little nicer

>>15166266
Look at some vintage seamasters or pie pan constellations.

>>15166230
>fuses the plate and the bridge with the case
Now that's a cool idea.

>>15166254
Berney worked for ETA/ESA. The patent in question (CH1691872A) is owned by ETA. It was filed on November 21, 1972. Seiko's spring drive patents (many years later) cite it.

I don't know what this garbage is about it being filed in 1973. Perhaps, as is quite common, Hodinkee has no idea what they're saying.
https://patents.google.com/patent/CH1691872A4/

>>15166266
That's an odd spot, stowa, orient star are your best bet unless you get a vintage and don't have to service it

>>15166280
it's an old idea.

>>15166266
Seiko SARX

>>15166266
what are you looking for? what are you going to use it for, or anything you need it to do? any looks you are going for? theres a million good watches under $750

Here's what I wore today.

Made the straps last night, the deployment clasp pictured is too wide so I'll have to swap it out. Straps are basically done, they just need loops at this point. They turned out decent for a first time effort.

My 20th anniversary MT-G

>>15164926
no shit. ill have to hang onto my orange one. i dont really wear it that much and was thinking of selling it a while ago but i cant bring myself to part with it lol

>>15166387
Check the prices. The first and second gen Monsters are going for like 600 bucks now, the orange ones especially. It seems like supply has dried up and people don't like where Seiko is taking the line with newer models.

The Rolex 116000 is the best current production model by far. Change my mind.

To be honest, most people here praising grand seiko do it because they can't afford swiss luxury and prefer to fool themselves thinking they know better. LOL

>>15166472
Me included btw.

>>15166472
>(((swiss luxury)))
>its swiss so it must be good

this is the same shit that allows swatch to sell shit tier garbage plastic mechanical watches at $300 to normies

>>15166472
Pretty much anything sub-Rolex that gets praised is just because poorfags think there's a cheapo "shortcut" to becoming a respectable human being.

>The Rolex 116000 is the best current production model by far. Change my mind.

>>15166503
>he thinks its the watch he wears and not his own personality that will make him a "respectable" person

>>15166472
>>15166503
Rolex owner non-white skin aka subhumans fuming

>>15164565
It looks to me as if you shaved all the hair off your fat as fuck arms, then breathed on your watch face before taking a picture.

Nice watch though

For me it's Replicas and Homages

>>15166472
I have seiko and rolex because i love all watches

>>15165499
You were right anon, after a while the glass started to get all foggy and it got me a bit scared, but hours laters and it still works, I also opened up the caseback to check if there was water in it but no water, just fog on the glass. I saw your post too late sadly but at least I wont be putting it in water soon until I get it checked. I also plan on replacing the leather strap.
The strap on the chrono wasn't the best so I replaced it with a new one that I had lying arround, I'm not sure it suits the watch but its gonna be a while until a new strap for it arrives.
I forgot to mention that when we were bargaining he also gave me a red dial cornavin sort of like "c'mon is a good deal, I'll even give you this free watch" thing. A little research tells me cornavin started Swiss but then moved to Russia. Still, I'm not sure its really my taste so I think I'll just sell it.
I can't upload pictures right now because its night and my phone sucks at night photos, surely tomorrow I can deliver good pics.

>>15164739
Casio is a no-brainer that everyone serious about watches should have a look at.

The ALS is goat and the first to get out of the 3 expensive ones you posted. Though instead of the new 414.028 you should also consider the original 403.035 Datograph.
They go for the same price currently and the date window is a lot more beautiful in person than it seems on pictures, you also get the old style balance wheel with balance screws that I much prefer over the new setup.
Only "downturn" on the original dato is really the 36 hour power reserve compared to the 60 hours on the model you posted but you'd likely wind either watch every day anyway so it shouldn't matter too much.
I'd get it if you want the 1815 for purity reasons though.

The Calatrava travel time is an extremely cool semi casual pick next to the dressier LF and ALS.

Not sure how I feel about the LF, though that might just be due to personal preference, I'd probably go for a chronomètre contemporain as a dress choice instead.

All around good choices breh.

>>15166442
>double batons

>>15166472
brands like ALS and GS are far better value for your money than most swiss brands, especially on secondary markets.
Guess it comes down to personal taste though and people also want to pay for "history" and brand identity.

>>15163412
These new Accutrons are really cool looking

>>15166584
there is no "value" in luxury watches it's all a scam

>>15166589
There is.
There is value in material, labor and branding.
Sure some of these brands make fantastic use of artificially restricting supply and racking in ridiculous profit margins but 90% of them are just scraping by.

>>15163650
counts down the last minute/hour in reverse manner so it goes: 5..4..3..2.. its a diver so you use it to count decompression time as you ascend from the depths of the ocean...or how much time left for your pasta to be cooked (as i do with my sbdc051

>>15166622
Perfect how much

>>15164419
I lost my virginity wearing a seiko hyperquartz chrono, I shit you not, I even used the chrono function to time my...well my time

>>15166622
>kiss
>not lick

Graduation can't come soon enough so I can treat myself to that UN Classico for all of this fucking schooling.

>>15166652
Yes, go for the UN.
>>fuck seiko

>>15166547
based

>>15166659
I'll always love Seiko through and through though

>>15166666

>>15165707
Yes. When I buy my brother a nice watch it will say "Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis".

>>15166324
Fuck yeah dude, the tropic GMT kicks ass. Whats your wrist size and do you have a wrist shot?

>>15166547
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST GET FOR $200 THE SAME WATCH THAT I GOT FOR $6000 YOU CAN'T DO THAT NOO, PLEASE STOP DON'T POST IT ON INSTAGRAM STACY WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE NO PLEASE!

My wrists are small but my dick is pretty big

well, actually my dick is ugly af if I am being honest
lol but it is a bigger than average

>>15165653
What the hell is that?
>>15165692
Me rikey!

>>15166666
my god, even the devil likes Seiko

>>15166596
>but 90% of them are just scraping by.

shouldnt luxury watch brands be swimming in money when each watch sells for so much?

I'm going to buy a $2,500 quartz seiko and no one can stop me!

>>15166697
gold ain't cheap

>>15166701
Looks like a Rolex ripoff.

>>15166701
but....why

>>15166731
quartz is the pinnacle of horology

>>15166701
Cool, post pics when you get it.

>>15166733
why not a gshock then, that has more functions and even more accurate if it has atomic

>>15166752
>>15166752
>>15166752
>>15166752

>>15163833
*checks time*
*cant*

>>15166442
cosmograph daytona is superior

>>15166701
get a pre owned omega you fag

>>15166230
What's the point of a smooth sweeping movement without a seconds hand?

>>15166324
You made those straps yourself? Damn they look good

>>15166637

>>15166701
Stop

>>15166678
Homage watches are fine and there's plenty of well built affordable homage watches that are worth it. Replicas are a different story, not because of some moral opposition or anything but just because you can almost always get a better homage watch for whatever money you'd put into a fake. A steinhart is a much better way to spend $500 than a well built rep and will work for a lot longer with a real warranty and the ability to bring it to a watchmaker without the risk that they'll destroy it for being a counterfeit good.