/fa/ - Fashion

should really change this to /rt/ - Rolex Thread because no other watch brand is worth talking about

>>15146382
What a dumb fucking comment. Rolexshills can just off themselves and the watch world will be better for it.

>>15146376
Picked up picrel a few months ago, shit loses 5 minutes a day now

>>15146382
You'll love it over here
>>>https://www.rolexforums.com/
Bye

>>15146386
>>15146388
>sour grapes

>>15146389
Unironically though if you only want to talk about rolex why wouldn't you just go to the literal rolex forum

People don't seriously own tech that was made obsolete 50 years ago, do they?

I mean, I know this is /fa/, so you're all slaves to advertising, but Jesus. That's just sad.

>real sapphire glass
>seiko NH36A automatic + handwind + hacking movement
>solid stainless steel bracelet
>now on sale and all under $50 USD

buy buy buy, think of the VALUE

>>15146402
Nice try shitposter, but the fact that you know quartz came out in the 70's exposes you as one of us. Most normies don't even know there are watches without batteries

>>15146394
Actually the rolex forums sometimes talk about Sinn, Damasko, GS, Omega, and Tudor

>>15146409
This would be real nice for a middle schooler.

>>15146423
Middle schooler with fat hands.

My entry level (<£2000) 3x3
r8, h8, deb8

>>15146376
>Utterly gaudy Rolex as the OP
Oh well, I'll skip that thread, it's just going to be a circlejerk of poorfags that wanna feel better by pretending to be a caricature of a rich person.

>>15146376
>>15146428
based
>>15146382
>>15146423
>>15146429
not based

>>15146402
mechanical watches are just neat little trinkets of mechanical engineering and design. watch people like that sort of stuff

Why is marathon the only company that makes tritium automatics?

I have a dogshit Chinese quartz with blue trit and it's the only watch I own with lume that actually fucking works.

>>15146440
EberHARD

>>15146436
that's stupid

>>15146450
then dont get a mechanical watch. its an art, not a practical something

>>15146428
I really like the Pointer Date, Hamilton chrono, Captain Cook, and the Longines.
I would have at least one watch on a bracelet though.

Are there any ways to tighten up the little piece that holds the clasp on a strap? Mine has a bit of a rattle and doesn't really lock that well.

>>15146474
Are you talking about the pin? You can either swap the pin or knock it out and put a little wood shaving from a toothpick, then put it back.

>>15146447
>It could be yours for a low low price of 13k!
Ive been seriously looking into their triple Calendar. It looks quite fantastic

>>15146460
>art
stupid
imagine how far along humanity would be if we left obsolete and impractical things and ideas behind

>>15146481
No, the little piece the pin goes into. The pin is fine, I just don't like how poor the clasp piece feels.

I tried squeezing it with some pliers to try and take some play out of it, but it didn't make much difference.

>>15146438
>Why is marathon the only company that makes tritium automatics?
they're not

>>15146488
>art
>obsolete

meme money-laundering modern art aside, art is an indispensable part of culture and it gives some kind of meaning to human existence. The ability to consiously create beautiful things sets us apart from other animals.

>>15146488
are you saying that art is stupid?

>>15146501

Such as?

>>15146462
Yeah the CW can come on a bracelet, and I'd probably put something on a milanese

>>15146516
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=automatic+tritium+watch

>>15146488
You'd think that but practical things tend to blend into art way too often for a theoretical "rational society" to avoid. What you want is a more practical art rather than no art.

>>15146438
Vostok Europe (not related to Vostok) makes some too. Shame that they're fuckhuge.

>>15146557
thats a nice looking watch
how big is it?

>>15146589
47 or 48mm I think. Just goggle for vostok anchar.
Shame, really.

>>15146594
>47mm

man-making-cringe-face.jpg

>>15146389
Most actual Rolex owners who post online are watch enthusiasts and are happy to talk about other brands as well. I think it’s just trolls and maybe the occasional very young and immature Rolex owner that thinks like this.

>>15146597
>open heart
>that date window placement
>that logo placement

>>15146428

Montblanc is OK, but pretty boring. Get a vintage Jaeger-LeCoultre or Vacheron Constantin or the like instead.

Christopher Ward is OK, but a Hamilton Khaki Field is better for the style.

Nomos is good.

Rado looks like a dive watch with a leather strap? Bad. Diver should be on a bracelet or silicon or cloth strap. Get a Seiko diver instead.

Hamilton chronograph is good.

That military/field watch is ok, but not my style.

Longines with sub dial is good.

Oris is pretty nice, but would probably get a Seiko SARB017 Alpinist instead.

MeisterSinger is kinda interesting.

>>15146638

Open heart is justified by 36K vph movement with silicon escapement.

Logo and Grand Date are similar to Lange 1.

>>15146638
Im a bit of a newbie when it comes to watches, what's wrong with open heart watches?are they impractical or is it ruining the aesthetic that makes them a turn off?

>>15146664
the latter

>>15146665
>>15146664
to each of his own, I like open hearts

ill also actually consider buying skeleton watches

>>15146597
too many memes in one place

>>15146664
The really cool ones are expensive and the cheap ones usually don't have anything worth showing. Except maybe those chinks making cheap tourbillons.

>>15146647
> Montblanc is OK, but pretty boring. Get a vintage Jaeger-LeCoultre or Vacheron Constantin or the like instead.
Yeah, but I tried to stay away from vintage or my list would just be full of old omegas and the like.
> Christopher Ward is OK, but a Hamilton Khaki Field is better for the style.
But they aren't the same style
> Rado looks like a dive watch with a leather strap? Bad.
I agree about the strap on the cc, but I can just swap it? No reason to buy a different watch and none of seikos divers appeal to me in that price range
> That military/field watch
It's called a flieger
> Oris is pretty nice, but would probably get a Seiko SARB017 Alpinist instead.
Completely different price bracket

>>15146661
Open heart is never (with a few notable exceptions) justified, it's just tacky. And the logo/date positions aren't even remotely similar. One was designed with the position of the date in mind and so has the dial space to accommodate. The other has it crammed in where it barely fits.

>>15146664
>>15146670
Picrel is one of the only acceptable open dials

>>15146450
no u

>>15146709
piaget altiplano is based

>>15146719
Fellow thinchad

>>15146731
Imagine thinking that's thin

>>15146387
The fuck did you expect, movement is just nuts and bolts, probably rusty as well. Hope you didn't spend more than 20$ on it

>>15146514
art is very much stupid

Can anyone recommend me a good watch that looks similar to pic related, my budget is $300

>>15146409
Insect watch for insect people.

>>15146766
lol

>>15146765
Thats not art.

>>15146774
Whether you like it or not does not make it art.

>>15146765
>Hirst's response to those who said that anyone could have done this artwork was, "But you didn't, did you?"
based response desu

>>15146774
How is it not art?

>>15146780
>>15146765
clumping actual traditional art with modern (((art))) is like clumping respectable homosexuals and faggots together

theres a difference, one requires actual technical skill that takes years to master and the other is just smoke up people's asses

>>15146766
just buy a replica online. There's an entire subreddit for repos, poorfags like you belong there, not here.

>>15146800
respectable gays and faggots are the same vanguard of cultural destruction.

Comparing them to traditional arts, which prior to 20th century was unique in its service to the state is stupid.

>>15146800
I know you *think* you are making a point but you are not.

>>15146809
>which prior to 20th century

homosexuality WAS a cornerstone of classic western civilisation. L2history

>>15146810
>using the NO U argument
1/10

>>15146709
Cartier tank skeleton is another excellent design

>>15146769
its no less chinese than the vast majority of watches assembled with chinese parts

a good watch is a good watch

>cousin is 17yo
>he is also a watch snob who owns a real sub and a omega seamaster diver (his dad buys the watches)
>looks down on normal-joe brands like seiko, even scoffing at grand seiko

what do? is it just a matter of age and maturity? at least his dad (my uncle-in-law) is much better

>>15146842
Im not arguing against its place of origin, Im arguing against its complete crushing lack of soul.

>>15146892
well thats kinda subjective
yes the design is rather plain, but you can argue thats what a dress watch should be, simple and not bogged down by details

does it have more or less 'soul' than a $80 plastic swatch with a quartz movement?

>>15146766
Don’t buy an “homage” watch or anything like that, spending over 1k on a watch is retarded idc what prestige comes with it. If you must have it get a Seiko 5 SGF206, one of my friends has one and it looks okay

>>15146907
Not him, but it's exactly the kind of watch outlined here: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

>>15146881
He’s just shitting on the poorfags nothing new

>>15146376
poorfag here. why the hate on invicta pro divers? i have two invicta watches, have had them for a year and they've been durable and look good? why the hate? hoping for some genuinely insightful responses instead of just insults, looking to learn more

>>15146932
Nope.

except that its not quartz, and its made of solid quality steel and real sapphire glass.

This isnt a "fashion" watch, it isnt a rebranded alibaba watch, this is a regular mechanical watch with a well known and trusted japanese movement (NH36A) inside, its just cheap for the price because it doesnt say [INSERT WELL KNOWN BRAND HERE] on the dial. You can youtube reviews of it.

that link only applies to brands like DW who sell $5 watches for $95

>>15146936
if we are thinking of the same watch, it is a ripoff of the rolex submariner

>>15146936
>why the hate
shady retail practice and pricing
associated mostly with fuckhuge garish designs or blatant "homages"
obnoxious branding

that said, the 8926OB was my first mechanical, and I also beat the shit out it for years and it still kept decent time

>>15146947
>not quartz
So what? It still is a dogshit fashion watch with some important sounding name to trick plebs into thinking it's worth a damn. Having "solid quality steel" and "real sapphire glass" is also what you see on dogshit $5 aliexpress specials too.

>>15146409
This isn't "value". What it actually is is a prime example of how hard brainlets are getting shafted every time they spend 500 bucks or so on literally this exact watch but with a different brand name on the dial.

If you absolutely have to own a sub 5k mechanical because you're a poorfag, this is a good choice, because at least you aren't wasting hundreds of dollars that you desperately need on a watch.

If you have a brain though, just buy quartz.

>>15146951
i mean so is the tag heuer one and the orient mako 2. it's obviously a ripoff, isn't that what homage watches are

>>15146955
i get you on the garish design/blatant homage but i like the design of the submariner and can't afford it. the branding isn't too obnoxious on the pro diver as its just a small logo in the dial and it was only $100. how's that shady pricing?

>>15146957
erm no..?
whats the difference between this and a western microbrand with a funky name? literally nothing. Its just your inner biasness showing through.

those $5 aliexpress watches are genuinely bad quality with fake leather straps and poor cases made of plastic painted to look like metal (please try buying one and see for yourself, I actually did long ago)

dress watch =/ = fashion watch
dress watches have been around for centuries.

pic related is a fashion watch, cheaply made, riding on a trend (wooden watches in this case), tacky with a rubbish $2 quartz inside.

>>15146957
To be fair, sapphire glass is actually cheap but most watchfags won't even dare to touch their watch because they think they'll fuck it up. They're like the ultimate white collar consumer, afraid to work with their hands for anything but a keyboard.

>>15146980
A lot of the time you'll see invictas at "90% off" with the msrp at some ridiculously high price, but they were never being sold at that price. The "discount" price is the real price and it's just presented that way to trick people into thinking they're getting a deal.

>>15146982
That isn't a dress watch, it's some dogshit with a fake european sounding name. "good quality steel" and "real sapphire glass" are nothing but chink tier marketing speak. You might as well list "crown for winding or setting time" as a feature. Fuck off chinkshit shill.

>>15146647
>Longines with sub dial is good.

You what, the fucking cut 6

>>15146995
dude, you can -literally- find videos of it being tested on the glass and worn on the wrist. Theres a reason why it gets listed on watch channels and sells so well if you're not a brand follower

that is 100% a dress watch. You seem very confused on the differences between a fashion watch and a dress watch. What makes it not a dress watch? just because you dont like the letters on the dial? lmao

also,
>thinking that his $500 "western" watch isnt made with chinese parts
congrats, they just ship the parts to USA and assemble it there

>>15147014
>Professional shills also shill this chinkshit
Wow I'm suddenly impressed. Oh wait.
Just having different letters on the dial doesn't make it dogshit. It being low quality dogshit makes it that. I'd also criticize chink dogshit when it's assembled elsewhere, like shinola. Have fun with your strawman.

>>15147028
>its low quality because I say it is
>being this angry and lashing out at a product just because of its place of origin

you know your iphone is also made in china right? the keyboard you are typing on, the computer you are using, even the chair you are sitting on. Take your meds.

It's over

Thoughts on the jlc Reverso?
https://youtu.be/_aTJPuxY3oQ

>>15147032
Identifying the origin of dogshit isn't saying all watches from that country are dogshit. That's just projection on your part. If you can't tell that some cheap aliexpress special with a fake european sounding name that lists "good quality steel" as a feature is actually dogshit then there's no saving you.

>>15146376
Damn that's a good looking rolex. I wanna eat it it looks so good!

>>15146440
Hey thats kinda cool. I've never seen perlage on the case back before.

>>15146936
Been wearing my 8926OB for two months daily now. According to Watchcheck it's currently doing +2.4s/d, so it stays within a minute for 31 days if I set it 40 seconds behind. NH35, as it turns out, can be pretty dank; but it wasn't always this good, and I'm expecting it to become worse some time, but time will tell eh. (maybe it was just that the lubrication needed to get around with a bit of use.)

I dislike this watch for two reasons: it's overbranded (compared to typical Aliexpress $60 subclones w/ NH35/Seagull/Miyota movements), and the lume is different between the hands and pips both for radiance and (worse!) colour. It's also a little bit tall for a subclone with a display back, which makes it stand out on a nato strap. (the bracelet that came with it wasn't compatible with my forearm hairs.)

>>15146881
Stop caring about spoiled brats? What are you, woman?

>>15146376
Hey wt. Explain me something. Watches made from bronze are quite common, and one reason is because the patina is actually desirable. So why don't they make cases out of silver? Pocketwatches were made of silver. Why not wristwatches? Because the metal is going to tarnish? But people like that tarnish. I just want a solid silver watch bros.

>>15147047
What if I tell you its actually made with 316L steel that many other (much more expensive) watch brands also use?
>b-but its dogshit!
And it has an actual time tested seiko movement inside...
>b-but its dogshit!
it also has sapphire glass that not many watches not even 3, 4 times its price has (looking at you, Seiko, you and your hardlex)
>b-but its dogshit!

>its listed on aliexpress! that means its dogshit!
and...? aliexpress is just a selling site because they dont use amazon in china
>t-the name sounds European!! muh heritage!
to be honest, Cadisen sounds more like an american, or even a british-hongkong name.

>>15146409
CADISEN, more like CHADISEN
Based chinks dabbing on the rest of the world

>>15147067
For slightly more you can get an orient bambino with an in-house calibre. Orient is haute horologié at bargain price.

>>15147066
they do

but ive not seen it on other than niche ladies fashion watches (pic related)

one reason could be 925 silver is actually quite soft still (you can forget about pure silver). I've had plain silver rings in the past and they would just deform over time from regular wear.
maybe if you look hard enough you can find one with a bezel or other decorative elements made out of silver, idk

>>15147067
But it's ugly

>>15147080
more like 2-3 times the price. Bambinoes go for like $100-150++

>>15147067
>What if I tell you its actually made with 316L steel
That's not impressive, saying "but much more expensive brands also use it" doesn't mean jack shit. Saying "but it uses 316L" as if it's supposed to be some sort of feature shows you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>15147101
it IS impressive for the price they are asking. Makes you wonder what exactly other brands are charging for.

By your parameters, literally 90% of all watches ever made are "dogshit" to you.

>>15147110
No it isn't you delusional faggot. The cheapest of the cheap still use 316L. Just using it means exactly nothing. You might as well be praising a lada because it has four wheels (the same number of wheels ferraris use, wow so impressive).

>>15147120
all that >>15146409
for under $50 USD isnt impressive to you?
what planet do you live on?
name me another brand who can do all of that at this price. Even the cheapest seiko cannot do that, their entry models all use the objectively inferior 7s26 movement

and thats an dishonest comparison, a more accurate one would be if the lada's wheels were made of the exact same rubber composition as the ferrari's wheels.

>>15147080
I've been interested in the Royal Orient movements. Too bad they go for a shit ton of money compared to old seikos. You'd think that because the west doesn't know about the high end orients it would be less, but it isn't so.

>>15147135
You do realize you're doing the exact same thing seiko fanboys used to do back when seiko wasn't respected, right?

>>15146781
>>Hirst's response to those who said that anyone could have done this artwork was, "But you didn't, did you?"
Actually, they did, two years prior.

https://www.stuckism.com/Shark.html

>>15147148
>moving the goalposts now because he realises hes losing

in this case it is better of all fronts than a entry level seiko except the brand name. (designs are subjective) But if one wants to buy a "cadisen" they already -dont care- about brand name or "heritage". So whats your point exactly? You have been autistic throughout the whole thread just because this legit value for money chink watch happens to have a english name.

>>15147164
This is my first reply in the chain other than
>>15147077
I'm not the other guy. I was trying to say that it was good that you cared more about specs than the brand name, and that you shouldn't waste your time on that other poster anymore. That being said I bet the bracelet is absolute dogshit. Did you actually get one?

>>15147164
>complains someone else moves goalposts
>after being told 316L isn't impressive he moved goalposts to "find me another watch which has these features, like this movement"

>>15147170
nah, the bracelet is 100% solid except that its way too shiny and the clasp isnt super refined. But theres no complaining except if one wanna nitpick. The high polish steel can be dampened with steel wool/sandpaper.

>>15146766
Get this one i guess

>>15147172
>anime poster is autistic and has no real arguments left along with incessant name calling

every. single. time

>>15147181
No, you don't get it. Every $100-$300 dollar watch that punches above their weight has shit straps because it's not a spec you measure or something that can be seen as easily in a picture. This goes all the way from the chinese watches to the basic japanese watches. Your watch is not immune. That being said, if you are actually getting it, feel free to show us how not shit the bracelet is. That is, if you've ever handled a decent one before.

>>15147050
Looks like chocolate, right?

>>15147188
No real arguments applies to you. You kept dodging, projecting, or moving goalposts when you couldn't hold onto bullshit like 316L being impressive (it isn't). Also saying "anime poster" is itself not an argument.

>>15147198
>>15147172
how is he moving goalposts when the watch movement was already listed over and over again in many posts in this thread...you don't know how terms work do you?

>>15147203
The goalpost moving came when that anon shifted from "316L is impressive at that price" to "find me a watch with this movement at this price".

>>15147192
it was a gift for my buddy, dont have it on hand atm

well, then all bracelets at this price cant fulfil that bar. Of course you cannot compare it to a bracelet on a $700+ watch, thats not being fair to it. But its way, way better than what you would expect for the price. Its not folded steel.

>>15147210
but you already moved golaposts yourself?And that is not really moving goalposts, he is not introducing another point to the argument'

and it is when you think about how timex is charging the same $$$ for quartz and brass

>>15147218
I don't feel good about buying watches for others. I bought someone a seiko 5 once. In a few weeks he got a fitbit and never wore it again. I think I'll just stick to alcohol, everyone likes that.

ITS UP!
ITS UP!
https://youtu.be/A-qfdakzQG8

>>15147192
Bracelets are fundamentally shit. They're something you wear because you're at a fancy event or something and you don't want to look like a hobo, or wear leather which manages to be even fucking worse.

If your bracelet is steel, then it's literal garbage. Steel is both heavy and fairly thermally conductive, so it's cold in the mornings, and scalding hot in the tropical sun. The only real acceptable bracelets are titanium.

So, now that you've put 95% of all bracelets ever made in the "unwearable" pile, how do the rest fair? Well, they're better than leather. And they look nice, which is important for your fucking business meeting. But they're still absolutely BTFO by nylon, and a nylon strap costs a fucking dollar, while a decent titanium bracelet will run you at least a few hundred.

>>15146409
I'm not one of the shitposters who's been trolling you, so let me tell you why exactly I don't like this watch in the hope that you'll understand where people are coming from.
The watch is ugly. When you remove features, what's left has to stand on it's own strength. Minimalism is the easy - it's actually incredibly hard to do well, and it's why many dress watches tend to be very expensive. All the little autistic details are amplified and unfortunately that watch has a bloated size, poor proportions, and bad fit and finish. The case lines have all the definition of injection moulded plastic. Additionally, being a $50 watch from china comes with it's own implications. Build quality is likely to be the bare minimum to not literally fall apart in your hands, the QC will be incredibly poor and if you have any issues communicating with / sending the watch back to the supplier will be nigh on impossible (enjoy paying for the shipping). Of course there's a chance that you don't care enough about the details for them to matter. An NH36 might be perfectly adequate for your needs. You might get lucky and get one in perfect working order. However what you really can't say is "it's made of stainless steel therefore it's just as good as X". That's the exact marketing bullshit that DW pulls when they put a ronda quartz in a watch and call it swiss made. There's more nuance to watchmaking than whether it's made of steel or not.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk

>>15147245
*minimalism isn't easy

>>15147066
Weren't silver pocket watches for medical doctors? Silver being antibacterial, and can therefore be cleaned sufficiently with alcohol and swabs instead of an autoclave; and wristwatches not being recommended for doctors for the hygiene reason.

>>15147233

ONIONS!

>>15147233
Seeing this dude wear a 47mm lug to lug watch as a wristlet is comedy gold.

>>15147229
well, its the thought that counts, I guess. What good is a bottle of whiskey? it'll be gone in a couple of evenings. Maybe he'll get into watches and appreciate the gift a lot more in the future. A fitbit fufils a different function anyway, hes not going to jog in a seiko.

>>15147245
ok thats fair, and thank you for a well thought out post, I really appreciate it and I didnt look at it that way. But the price is hard to argue against and the """fun""" of buying chinese is like gold-panning--either you get a bucket of dirt or literal gold.

>>15147240
Ever wear a milanese strap? They're actually pretty good at handing the weather.

>>15146766

>>15147240
>he is afraid of the mere 60g-100g that comes with steel
what are you, a onions nugget? heavy watches are for MEN. A real man chops wood and cooks with cast iron
>nylon
looks cheap, especially a $1 one that will fray on you with no time. Nylon straps look bad on many watches unless its sports or field
>titanium
too light and dainty like a toy. pfffft

>>15147269
All that anon did was put "it's dogshit" into nicer words. "poor proportions, bad fit and finish, incredibly poor QC" etc. is just a wordier way of saying the exact same thing.

>>15147294
he was more articulate, informative and polite in one post than you were in 20 posts. So you should check your IQ, I guess?

>>15147298
You're on fucking 4chan, you should be able to handle someone being rude when you say stupid shit. Not to mention the niceness to which someone calls your watch dogshit has no bearing on the facts of the matter.

>>15147307
>4chan has /b/ so every board and thread should be like /b/

shitposting is still shitposting

>>15147313
Nice projection on your part, again. If you need a hugbox where no one is rude about your purchases then go look at any other watch forum.

>>15147294
"It's dogshit" is inherently unhelpful and is basically begging someone to become defensive, which is why he ended up shilling chinkshit. They're basic communication skills, anon, but it's probably too much to ask for anyone on 4chan to have those

>>15147307
except that he presented zero facts besides saying "its shit" and "NO U faggot"

>>15147314
imagine being mad about how someone else spends their money. a u t i s m

>>15147319
Imagine being mad that someone is rude about your dogshit watch.

>>15147278
I haven't really, but that's more because most of them come with that awful, awful clasp thing. If you had one custom sized for a tri-fold or something, maybe it'd be tolerable.

>>15147291
>heavy watches are for MEN.
Sure buddy, enjoy your arthritis. Why aren't you wearing a lead watch with an exposed radium paint dial? Are you a little baby?
>looks cheap, especially a $1 one that will fray on you with no time.
I've got one that cost a dollar and hasn't frayed in years. There are plenty of cheap ones that do fray though, don't buy any of the garbage that doesn't even have eyelets or melted edges.
>Nylon straps look bad
Hence why you don't wear them to your fucking business meetings. But when it comes to comfort, they can't be beaten.

>>15147321
who hurt you?

is it the corona virus getting to your brain? getting the cabin fever?

>>15147315
The original argument was that it was the exact kind of watch outlined here. https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
The word dogshit is absent. Things are explained in that link in a way to show the watch as poor quality in a detailed manner. Then the anon got all defensive anyway.

>>15146982
Lmao I love when watch pages with 100k followers on insta post overly designed shit like these with a caption like "what are your thoughts?"

>>15146766
Seiko SNXS in gold

I have large hands but somewhat small (probably more like average, but I'm low body fat) wrists. Can I never wear watches with a metal band? I bought one once and when they removed enough links for it to fit properly on my wrist I couldn't get it over my hand.

>>15147337
but to be fair cadisen is the manufacturer afaik and not a dropshipper. And that watch has a real mechanical movement inside and it isn't being sold for $500.

>>15147347
>I couldn't get it over my hand
Is this bait?

Why are metal bracelets designed to be worn the wrong way around? It's way easier to put on upside-down.

>>15147358
Satanism, one of the common tropes is reversing the natural order of things to mock God.

>>15147353
No, maybe I'm just dumb. Please explain it to me, I know nothing about watches.

>>15147349
It still has most of the important aspects of a cheap crap watch even if it isn't as much of a ripoff as a DW. Poor fit & finish, low build quality, questionable/non-existent QC. Listing the materials or the movement type as if they're supposed to make the watch decent is the same kind of marketing wank that all these brands like DW do.

>>15147337
that page is addressing people(scammers) who order cheap watches in bulk from aliexpress, printing their logo on it and selling it with 2000% markup. Then they mask it with flowery language and pretend that the product they are selling is worth much more than it is.

but the C1032 is just a watch company (cadisen) making watches with super thin margins and selling it firsthand at prices that undercut everyone. They are not pretending that their watches is worth hundreds of dollars more nor are they charging that price, its actually the opposite.

are their designs uninspired and clumsy in places? ya, maybe. But what can you expect for the price?

is it a fundamentally dishonest practice? no, because they do actually honestly list out what they are using in their watches and the rest is just normal marketing talk that all brands do. This is no different than many normal watch brands who also use 3rd party movements like ETA. They are not pretending to be some long lost heritage swiss brand with watches crafted by artisans, nor are they trying to sell a basic quartz movement at high prices. So you lumping the two together is incorrect.

>>15147376
>let me just copy the talking points of this other anon>>15147245
because I was shitposting and didnt know what I was talking about at 1st

>>15147384
You mean the points in https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

>>15146382
20 grand for a watch made of stainless steel? lol

>>15147375
Did you open the clasp?

>>15147389
You can't expect "premium" materials like titanium and a basic coating for only 20 grand.

>>15147386

no......because that page is for dropshippers and not manufacturers. If you actually read the points on that page it is regarding sellers and ""influencers"" half a world away from china who dont make the watches themselves. But thats not true in this case.

>>15146982
>bought my brother a Hamilton khaki for his birthday last year
>mfw his wife got upset because she intended to buy that exact wood watch for him

>>15147400
Nice save

>>15147399
The low quality part is inherent in both cases, dropshipper or not.

>>15147386
That album doesn't mention build quality or qc, it's mostly about the marketing

>>15147403
no, the dropshipping and overpricing is the important part.
the cadisen is just chinks out-chinking everyone and just surviving off razor thin margins. They used a western name to be more marketable which maybe confused you.

anyway, there are many brands like timex (made in the phillippines now with shoddy QC in recent years) and swatch(sistem51 LUL) who offer low quality overpriced watches when you take away their brand history.

I like it's looks. Watches with lots of dials and overly fancy designs aren't my thing.

>>15147415
Why are the hour markers so stubby?

>>15147418
I don't know, I like them, they remind me of art deco for some reason

>>15147406
It mentions the watch itself being an afterthought from marketing, which implies low quality.

>>15147428
if it were an afterthought they wouldnt have used an actual seiko movement inside. one that even handwinds and hacks.
>marketing
cadisen literally has negative marketing. They are not even trying. Which IG influencer is rocking a cadisen? it only became semi well known in the watch world because it is offering parts at such low prices so bargain hunters jumped on it.

>>15147415
Looks fine but the proportions are a fucking mess

Pic unrelated

>>15146488
>imagine how far along humanity would be if we left obsolete and impractical things and ideas behind
negoid, you're on a fashion board on mongolian fingerpainting forum

>>15147442
whats wrong with the proportions? looks fine 2 me

>>15147422
it does kinda have a art deco look

i would kill a man for his rolex if i knew it was legit

>there are "watch lovers" who will be willing to pay almost 2 MILLION DOLLARS for a piece that looks like this

OH NONONONONONONO KEK

is this hobby a joke?

>>15147483
>is this hobby a joke?
Nah, but your bank account is lel

>>15146881
Daddy's-money syndrome, once your cousin has to start financing himself, he'll see the value in a budget watch

>>15147505
even if i had 5 trillion dollars i would not buy a RM.

>>15147465
It's too big and the markers + hands are too small

>>15147400
this is what brothers are for. nice job.

Another gay thread full of faggotry and people falling for obvious bait.
Great job guys.

>>15147517
right, but you don't and never will, so you're not the type of customer RM targets

Do dress watches REALLY need to be worn with a suit?
I think all you need is a nice shirt and shoes to complete the look.

Thoughts on the Seiko mini turtle as an everyday shitter ?

>>15146385
Nothing much. Trying to stay unsober as much as possible in these hard tiems.

>>15147753
it's a seiko dive that's a dime a dozen. the movement works, it's not amazing but gets the job done. What are you really wondering about it?

>>15147753
Was that the mid tier one with the 4r35 or the one with the 6r15? Either way it's fine as long as you don't overpay

>>15146376
Just ordered this piece, looking lovely.

Suggest a Watch for Me
> Your budget
Under $1,500
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Dress
> Desired features, e.g. automatic, water resistance, day/date
Automatic, blued hands (or at least a blued second hand)
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Leather
> Wrist size or desired watch size
Small wrists

>>15147788
4r35
The price is in AUD which seems fair

Which movements in inexpensive watches are the "best"?

>>15147852
define inexpensive define best

>>15147842
I personally consider the basic seiko turtle Srp777 style to be slightly cheaper and better (reissue of a famous vintage seiko diver whereas the mini turtle is an original new design, untested by time)

Otherwise I think they perform the same. Same lume, same quality, same movement. The mini turtle boasts a more comfortably smaller lug to lug but the full sized turtle boasts a more comfortable cushion case, and a crown that does not dig into the wrist unlike the mini turtle's awkward crown.

It depends strongly on your wrist size, anon. I had the full size turtle and as you can see from the photo, it's just slightly too big for my 6'7 inch wrist circumference.

>>15147852
I like the miyota 9015 for high beat seconds + crown action, seiko 4r36 for best all around durability/accuracy, and the eta 2824 for something a little more expensive that performs wonderfully and has no real flaws.

Am I the only one who sees it?

Imagine buying a cheap Rolex and thinking you are a part of the big boys

>>15147871
There’s always that one illiterate cunt.

Can we please move back to /g/? This is really getting out of hand.

But we probably won't.

Can anyone identify the watch in the pic for me? It's a screenshot from death race (2000), some trashy 70s film.

>>15146382
kys non human skin colour

We're on /fa/ so I want to talk about fashion watches

I don't care if it's quartz, chinese or whatever shit garbage, give me your fucking best /fa/ watches.

>>15148166

>>15148166
or this

>>15148166
or that one too

>>15148166
so /fa/…

Is this OK for first watch?

Thoughts

https://youtu.be/0YyJq3Vn36c

>>15148243
That's fuckhuge at 42 mm diameter.

Unless you have bodybuilder wrists, I would suggest you get something at 38–40 mm like picrel

>>15148255
>Thoughts
I'm thinking about them beans.

>>15147038
And nothing of value was lost.

>>15147483
It's like you've never heard of tax evasion or laundering money.

>>15148256
Thanks. Didnt noticed the size.
I want something with digits.

After searching on google instead of aliexpress itself, I found the replacement screws for my G-shock for a couple of bucks here.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33007881649.html

Almost tempted to pick up a gold set too, but without the gold buttons it'd probably just look lame.

Now though, I'm trying to see if I can find the little teflon(?) spacers you can see at the top of this image for sale individually anywhere. Alternatively, if anyone has bought this set and wants to put them between some calipers for me, I guess I can just cut them out of a sheet the same thickness.

What do you think of my watch? And any tips how to get rid of the scratches?

>>15148320
You leave the scratches. They're your scratches and add to the story and character of your watch. It's a toolwatch after all.

I dislike how the steel caseback of my watch gets stuck to my wrist with sweat, is there anything I can coat it with or wrap over it to stop that shit?

>>15148332
there are "bund straps" that give a leather backing to watches

or you can wear a nato strap, the nylon will be against your skin and not the case back.

>>15148332
>>15148392
nato strap

Why are modern watches so huge and hideous?

>>15148405
Because modern humans are largely huge and hideous.

>>15148405
>hideous
subjective
>huge
larger things are associated with masculinity

>>15148417
>larger things are associated with insecurity
fixed

>>15148419
actually i agree with that more than what i said

>>15148421
That was… unexpected!

>>15148424
your conception was unexpected

>>15148392
>>15148395
I don't really like the extra thickness of these options. I've always wondered if I could do something crazy like find some thin fabric shit that's adhesive to create a bit of a buffer zone.

>>15148330
What do you think of the watch?

>>15148433
if you are good with crafts and sewing you could probably DIY some stuff

>>15147041
I love the reverso but only if you go classic, time only, no seconds hand and fits on the wrist like a dress watch should (yes, I know that the reverso was a sport watch...).
The large model fits like a modern watch but personally I think that looks terrible, a dive watch or something like that, I'm fine making them bigger but oddly shape watches like reversos, cartiers etc they look terrible bigger.
Also the dual faces are a cool idea but they are fatter.

>>15147038
For us is going to be the same thing, for them they are going to save money by making a in-house Swiss big boys event.

>>15147840
Nomos? Although I think their automatics are all over budget

>>15148433
well they sell fabric sheets with preapplied adhesive, on aliexpress (the kind used to line jewelry boxes)

you just need to trace out the shape of your case back and cut it out

>>15148496
Yeah, I'm just not sure about how well it'll hold up to sweat. Nobody makes clothes out of felt, after all. It's also a bit thick.

>>15148502
hmm i think you have to find the fabric you want and then use doublesided tape to diy a patch for your watch

but wouldn't it stink eventually? with a nylon strap u can wash it, but here the fabric will soak up the sweat and you wouldn't be able to remove it easily

>>15147871
Under $750
i suppose the smoothness of the movement as well as accuracy and durability

>>15147721
I wear mine with jeans and a t-shirt sometimes. I think nearly any dress watch can be "dressed-down"-

>>15147878
ETA movements shit themselves if you actually use the handwinding function, go check watchuseek if you don't believe me.

>>15146376
is the Tissot heritage visodate a decent choice for a first automatic?

>>15148433
Marine Nationale type straps pass with only one layer under the case.

If I want a cheap automatic(<200euro) , but also a display back and I don't care too much about watches, Is the Pro Diver the only option ? Also, if gold is my color because of tan skin and can wear an all-gold Casio A168 and look good, would an all-gold diver work or am I better off with a two-tone ?

Yay or Nay $67 for poorfag?

98A153

>>15148591
Yes

>>15148617
No

patina giving value is fucking dumb
why would you want a beat up shit crust covered watch

>>15148315
I've been looking for these myself too.
Cheers pal.

>>15148615
Honestly I would not get an all gold plated diver, it' a big hunk of metal that has no business being so flashy.

The two tone is cool.

>>15148615
>automatic with display back

there are literally a ton of seiko 5s and invictas and bambinoes to pick from.

You also have aliexpress """"homage""" watches to pick from if you dont mind that. You can get a all gold/half gold submariner homage for $50-$100 lol, and the quality isnt really as bad as you'd think. And they all come with japanese movements

if you want something more legit just go with the brands mentioned

>>15148625
because it has SOUL and history

>>15148646
>You also have aliexpress """"homage""" watches to pick from if you dont mind that. You can get a all gold/half gold submariner homage for $50-$100 lol, and the quality isnt really as bad as you'd think.
Speaking from experience?
Not really interested in the sub, but there's some other classic divers that are priced way beyond what a toolwatch should be, so I'm tempted to try a homage. For stuff beyond the sub, 'steeldive' often shows up, between $100 and $100.
Are they any good?
I think they are NH35 movements, so that should be good enough, and finishing in the reviews always looks quite good, but I'm worried about the water resistance. I'm sure as hell not going to take them diving, but I'd like to go swimming with them, possible some DWS, so they'd get some quite heavy splashes and "dives" down to 6m or so.

Anyone here still use the discord? How's things there?

>>15148532
Assuming you're talking about new watches, Bulova Precionist. 16 Hz, 60spy, quartz durability.

>>15148671
The only thing worse than this thread is the discord so no

>>15148588
Yeah that's one of the major downsides of the 2824-2, but it's not a big deal you just don't fucking hand wind it if u don't need to, anyway the worn parts get repaired on the service

>>15148717
Why even have handwinding as a feature if it will fuck up your watch?

>>15148759
It's more nuanced than people here like to imagine. There's nothing wrong with using the hand winding on an ETA 2824 if the set bridge and crown wheel are properly lubricated. When they're not, it causes wear that eventually wears out the handwinding mechanism.

>>15148256
>fuckhuge at 42 mm diameter unless you have bodybuilder wrists
>get something at 40 mm
nigga it's 2mm, and my average wrists can easily accommodate that as long as the lug-to-lug doesn't break 50mm. anything 34-42 would likely fit 95% of wrists and look good. it's 44mm and up that becomes Stallone territory

i hate my stupid idiot moderately below average sized wrists

>>15148847
And 44 mm is only 2 mm up from 42, nigga, so what's the difference?

>>15148847
how big are your wrists?

>>15148405
because moder watches are glorified jewelry for men. When they were just tools to know the time, they were smaller and cleaner.Now it's everything about oversized watches that cover your entire wrist because everybody must see your watch.

>>15148847
>anything 34-42 would likely fit 95% of wrists and look good. it's 44mm and up that becomes Stallone territory

Anything under 40 is for girls.
If you are such a manlet you should just transition already.

>>15148847
It's not just a matter of your wrist "accomodating it", nigga, but also of looking good.
A dress watch should not look like a pie pan strapped to your arm like pic related

>32-36mm
proper.

I can't believe the whining about watch sizes is still going on. Watch sizes are already trending down again to 41mm or less and you can wear bigger watches just fine depending on not just your wrist but the watch itself.

>>15148873
answer the question

>>15146409

I own a Cadisen that also uses this movement. It’s not an actual Seiko movement, it’s a copy. The winding rotor is very loud as you move your hand. There is a loud tick. I bought one because it was cheap, $50. You get what you pay for.
I will give credit where it’s due that it does keep accurate time, within 5 seconds a day for mine. I guess I got lucky with the quality.

>>15148902
> $50 watch has a $40 movement in it
> It's a clone
Gosh who would have ever guessed

>>15148881
>Anything under 40 is for girls.
t. ham wrists

WW2 field watches worn in actual combat were like 30-36mm.

Reminder that refined badasses like Clark Gable, Sean Connery, and Gregory Peck were all wearing watches that were 38mm maximum.

36mm and smaller = proper, b&r, class, frenzone, understated, hiding power level, not compensating, etc...
37-38mm = probably lame
39mm = almost certainly lame
40mm and larger = lame

>>15148490
I like Nomos, but I was thinking something with a bit more of a classic dress watch look rather than their Bauhaus influenced designs

>>15148873
>>15148896
~7" circumference
completely average

now you.

>>15148889
>>15148922
>>15148928
>>15148951
le wrong generation xD

>>15148883
>A dress watch should not
I agree, and I thought it was obvious the size discussion was about casual/sport/tool watches

>>15148963
Well the orion and ludwig are definitely less "bauhausy". I can't really think of anything else that ticks your boxes better - they're small, dressy, have blued hands and an excellently finished in house calibre for just a touch over budget. If I'm being pedantic a dress watch shouldn't be automatic anyways

>>15149031
why dont you just do this

>>15149044
theres a ton of dress watches with blue hands senpai

>>15149046
that's a quite a different position than "a 42mm watch is perfectly ok to wear"
it's actually closer in tone to your "anything bigger than 36mm is for zoomer faggots" statement

>>15147840
Orient Star EL05003W / Orient Bambino 2400CN

Steinhart - M0506 (Marine 38)

Stowa Marine 36

Melbourne Portsea Calendar

Sea-Gull 39mm Classic Automatic

>>15149095
seiko presage SRPC79J1

seiko SARX033

G.Gerlach m/s Batory

citizen grand classic nb0040-58a

some of these are more dressy than others

>>15149026
smaller

> Your budget
$500-$750
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Pilot
> Desired features, e.g. automatic, water resistance, day/date
day/date, not much else
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
leather
> Wrist size or desired watch size
6.5 in
just need something solid, brahs

>>15149216
A Hamilton

>>15149216
hamilton

>Your budget
$600
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
probably only dress
>Desired features, e.g. automatic, water resistance, day/date
good movement(including quartz)
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
leather, silicone, cotton
>Wrist size or desired watch size
smaller than 38mm

>>15149391
SACM171
Hamilton Intramatic 38mm ETA 2892

>>15149391
You could happily tap into vintage Omega or vintage king seiko with that money, and get them serviced for daily wear.

Take on laco?

>>15149425
This is a terrible suggestion for someone who clearly doesn't know anything

>>15149430
They don't have the tech like the other german tool watch brands, but they are a viable alternative to a stowa

>>15149216
Either get a ~$300 homage like a Tissel or get low end Hamilton is probably your best bet. For pilots stuff the really heavy players like Sinn/Damasko/Laco/Stowa/Archimede all start closer to the 1k mark than $500 so your best option is either Japanese Movements in homage watches or lower end Swatch group.

hamiltons are garbage do not listen to people recommending them

>hamilton
MALAYSIA

>>15149391
What's the poorfag chinese low budget version of this I want it

>>15149663
That watch is ~$650,000.

How is this abomination considered the crown jewel of their collection when they make so many genuinely beautiful watches?

>>15149697
muh gerald genta

>>15149663
unironically there isn't one, at least not if you want all the same complications.

>>15149430
They have plenty of heritage, made watches for the luftwaffe.

>>15149697
it's not except by arabs and rappers and whatnot.

>>15149697
because they don't make a lot of non-dressy watches, but their name has a ton of prestige. For people with money but not the lifestyle to wear a patek, they get a nautilus. Simple.

>>15149901
>>15149901

>>15146817
"My, it looks like boys playing Leap Frog."

>>15149430
Best watch on the thread so far.

>>15146817
Homosexuality as the way we think of it wasn't really a thing prior to WW2. Men engaged in fucking each other (though quite a lot of prominent historical figures in both Greece and Rome were not particularly cool with it including Plato) but male on male sexual practices weren't considered a replacement to having a wife and kids and stuff. There was a lot of dudes fucking dudes, but they were generally dudes with wives and kids who saw that as just extra "fun" on top of their normal responsibilities to their families and stuff. It's definitely not what modern people would consider "straight" but it's not really what people would consider "gay" in the sense of choosing males as sexual partners as a replacement for women. Hetero-flexible would be a better way to describe it.