/fa/ - Fashion

>>15138829
>low key simplistic grandpa watch
>gaudy fucking yuge bracelets
Why?

Q&a with Massena on ig

I plan to buy one or two of these (1/3)

>>15138929

>>15138932
(3/3)

>>15138829
OP is demonstrating how to correctly use bracelets made out of a natural material to shield the harmful electronic fields that a quartz watch produces. If you absolutely HAVE to wear such a thing instead of a more natural mechanical wristwatch, that’s you you minimize its harmful impacts on your chakra.

I'm wearing my based almost 2 decade old Citizen today.

Currently saving up for my first "grown up" watch, i'm leaning towards an omega seamaster 300m with the white dial.

It'll be my daily watch, what do you guys think? an Alternative would be a sub mariner around the same price but it'll be on its last legs lol

pic related

>>15139008
I'm not a huge fan of the seamaster but the white dial ver is by far my favourite. Will make a great daily wearer

Unless you're set on a diver maybe consider pic?

>>15138829
Is the casio in op pic metal or plastic like the world time and other casios

>>15139032
Plastic

>>15139028
Are you not a big fan of divers in general? I'm a little worried as it has a bit of a sporty feeling. it Sounds lame but I want it to be a family airloom.

I do like this, i'll add it to my list. it's classier and its in a similar price bracket on the grey market.

any more suggestions?

Think I'm falling down the homage rabbit hole, lads. Been looking at chinese brands' takes on e.g. black bay and flieger (with entry-level Miyota movements, which turns me off), as well as weird 43mm submariner homages with supposed NH35 movements for sub-$100.

Are any of these decent to at least Invicta level, as in, worth wearing unironically? Or should I just stick with my Vostok, because the chinese homages will only get better in a few years' time.

>>15139080
It really depends on what you're looking at. I've heard good things about Parnis, Pagani-Deseign and Loreo in the under $100 price point but you're basically getting the same thing from any of these brands with only slightly different quality standards. If you absolutely have to do that, go for it but I think you're a lot better off saving up an additional hundred for a Seiko/Orient or spending $300 and getting a properly built homage from a brand like Phoibos or Deep Blue or something.

>>15139066
>any more suggestions?
What's your price range? 5-6k?

>>15139066
My suggestion would be to get like 30 different Chinese/Malaysian/Singapore watches in the ~$200-500 price range instead so you can be satisfied with none of them but have lots of them.

>>15139132
Yeah, I'm getting the impression that if my Invicta runs well enough to not have to dick with every week, then it's a fluke in the cheap homage category and that quitting while I'm ahead seems a good move. Thanks for the other brand refs, looking at catalogues certainly beats spending on frivolity during uncertain times.

>>15139066
Yeah divers aren't generally my thing, I'm more interested in chronographs and dress watches. The seamaster specifically though has just never spoken to me. Something about the design looks too cartoony.
I get what you're saying about it being too sporty as well. Too many people get caught up in the diver-as-a-daily mantra, but assuming you work 5 days a week you'll be wearing your watch in the office far more often than on the beach. The OP has a "literally anywhere" aesthetic and is the perfect daily imo but you could also save some cash and pick up a nomos club or a longjeans or something

>>15139180
Definitely. I was about to go dump some money on the new Gin Clear Diver from Second Hour but now that I've been furloughed indefinitely I don't think spending that money is really worth it even if the specs are really solid for the money. It's one of those things where it's so easy to get all worked up over FOMO for something that really doesn't matter in the long run. Window shopping is probably the best way to go atm unless you're really seriously in love with whatever piece you see.

>>15139175
Kek

>>15139226
>furloughed indefinitely
Same boat, confirmed in february already because of supply chain uncertainty (thru China) and demand uncertainty (because of others' supply uncertainty, thru China). Remote or not doesn't make much of a difference. Spose it'll be a while until I'll have a hundred bucks in my toy budget again; and the chinese homage watch (sapphire glass, seagull movement, snowflake hands, etc.) is going to wait in stock until then.

Barring eurozone inflation of course. Which could happen, except that every other big player seems to be doing equivalent pandemic-resuscitation stuff already, so it might even out as well.

Window-shopping has made me like the other alternatives less. So that's a way to window-spend fewer window-eurobucks.

>>15139229
In all seriousness, I have an Omega AT that I love but almost never wear because I've gotten hooked on the microbrand crack rocks. My Monta/Nodus/Zelos all get more wrist time than my Omega at this point as silly as that might sound.

Why don't watches use helical gears for durability instead of straight cut ones?

>>15138929
>>15138932
>>15138934
Good taste here, the IWC is the best of the bunch IMO. The Elgin has a weird crown, what's the story there?

>>15138981
Lots of regular flags here, why would the lume on the hands be different from the dial

>>15139284
nice but too busy, too 70s.

>>15138975
>>15138977
>>15138980
gay

rate my issued pilot watches

>>15139267
I still wear my Boctok shitters despite having an Omega shitter and a Breetling shitter. Theres something about cheap shitters.

>>15138829
What Casio is this?

>>15139294
hands were replaced during last service, lume had degraded and fallen off of them

>>15139333
congratulations, you destroyed the value of your watch.

>>15139338
I don't care, I'm not going to sell it, I'm going to wear it. And I still have the original hands in a ziplock, so if I ever change my mind, I can have them put back on, or sell them along with the watch.

The little flecks of lume were rolling around inside the watch under the sapphire. Didn't want it to fall in to the date wheel and potentially get in to the movement.

>>15139341
Good on you for buying something to actually use, but you should have tried to use some lume that was already yellow because it looks funny now

>>15139318
Not a lot of microbrands have an aggressively domed acrylic crystal like Boctoks. There's retro appeal there. Also the 420 case looks pretty smart edge on.

>>15139349
What do you mean use loom that was already yellow? Find hands on the grey market that were the right shade? Rolex service only stock new parts for replacement. I was lucky they let me keep the old hands at all.

>>15139325
Looks like retro one, close to f 91 line, but definitely not in produce anymore.

>>15139356
>I was lucky they didn't steal my property
lmao, Rolex has its customers cucked so hard.

Literally buy a $20 lume kit off amazon, mix in a tiny amount of brown watercolor paint to match color, and paint the back of the hands with a small paintbrush. Capillary action makes the lume fill in the gap perfectly. Easy.

I redid the hour hand on my Gruen Ocean Chief.

>>15139363
I think that would have fucked the value even harder. You can do that on a shitter, not on a 10k Rolex.

>>15139365
No, that's literally what you would pay a watchmaker $500 to do to restore your original hands. Lume is paint, knock it out if you mess up, it doesn't affect value in any way unless you remove the original stuff.

>>15139363
>watch is called gruen
>ist schwarz

>>15139356
Actually why didn't you just ask them to pop out the little circles and replace those too?

>>15139371
named after a man not a color. Rolex and Gruen were partners and Rolex was not sold in the US until the 50s thanks to Gruen. Comparable quality up to that time.

Anyone know where can I find this watch?

>want a watch
>remember that the only watches worth owning are extremely expensive, effectively useless luxury items which I would never justify their purchase
>stop caring
>some time later
>want a watch
>remember that the only watches worth owning are extremely expensive, effectively useless luxury items which I would never justify their purchase
>stop caring
>some time later
>want a watch
>remember that the only watches worth owning are extremely expensive, effectively useless luxury items which I would never justify their purchase
>stop caring
>some time later
etc...

>>15139284
Or you can just get a real Sinn.

>>15139391
Do you have a gf?

>>15139375
Lume was still intact on the dial, no need to replace.

>>15139391
>the only watches worth owning
A fallacious statement, and your infinite loop is representative of the fact that you'll never be satisfied by clout chasing and status seeking

>>15139391
How are you too poor for a timex weekender? Even GQ recommends it, and they know more about accessorizing and fashion than the average watchfag or even those people at baselworld.

>>15139391
What's your qualifications for "worth owning"? Are you saying that it needs to be a financial investment rather than something that depreciates to be worthwhile or something? I don't get the reasoning.

>>15139391
You really do need $3,000+ to have something worth buying. Everything below that is a coping waste of time.
>>15139425
Watches can be an investment or a store of value.

>>15139433
I guess if you're specifically buying steel sports Rolex and Royal Oak/Nautilus (and then putting them in a case and not ever wearing them) then they can be an investment, but most watches are not really much of a store of value nor should they be. If you're not wearing it, it's not a "watch" for you as much as it is a placeholder for speculative value.

>>15139391
It gets easier once you have fucktons of money.
That's when you're supposed to be buying an actual high horology watch.

>>15139418
>timex weekender
a watch can be a representation of you. When you see someone wearing a watch, you judge them based on their choice.
The time weekender is ugly, cheap, and loud. I wouldn't want to ever wear that. Timex is a garbage company as well. They made junk.

>>15139433
$3,000 is THE minimum. You can find an oyster perpetual or an aqua terra under that but will have issues, refinished, non-original, quartz etc and aren't worth it at all.

What are *the* brands under 500? Is it only seiko, citizen and orient or are there more?

>>15139472
Seiko is dogshit and watches below $3000 are morally wrong.

>>15139472
Read poorfag guide in op

>>15139472
don't even bother

>>15139433
>>15139467
>>15139476
Curious if any of you actually own or can even afford a $3000 watch

Le big tits gf

https://youtu.be/sFRiyskflXQ

>>15139472
There's also a metric fuck ton of really well built/spec'd microbrands with watches under $500 as well. Traska, Borealis, Nodus, Zelos, Raven, Helm, Second Hour, Direnzo, Boldr etc. If you're talking major brands under $500 your best bets are going to be Seiko, Citizen, Orient, and some lower end Swatch group stuff.

>>15139488
Based, thanks.

>>15139448
GQ is still a respectable fashion magazine, even if it peaked years ago. They know more about fashion and how it represents someone than a poorfag who lurks the /wt/ threads bitching about how he can't afford anything.

what is your perfect collection
>everyday
>dress
>sport

>>15139502
nobody cares about your magazine

>>15139482
>e-everyone else must be as poor as me!

cope

>>15139467
You can find a stainless automatic cartier tanks for close to $2,500 but otherwise yes. It's not like anyone wants the stainless tank anyway.
>>15139482
Cope.

>>15139516
>everyday
Nomos Minimatik
Zenith El Primero
>dress
Vintage King Seiko
Citizen Chronomaster
>sport
Titanium Casio Protrek

>>15139516
>>everyday
Seamaster
>>dress
Seamaster
>>sport
Seamaster

>>15139433
>watches as investments
This is why you're poor.

>>15139391
>>15139524
Have you tried not being poor? Or at least, not an insufferable faggot?

>>15139516
>everyday
Omega Speedmaster Professional Man on The Motherfucking Moon

>dress
Breetling Superocean Heritage II

>sport
Boctok

>>15138996
Why the wrong size strap? Does the watch have weird lug width?

>>15139484
I really can't watch women who wax their arms, sorry. If she's not at least as hairy as this one she doesn't exist for me.

>>15139559
That's a man anon

>>15139531
>>15139537
>"Any watch under $3000 is shit"
>Post your $3000 watch, anon
>"Hahahaha cope poorfag incel cope"
Post your watches you LARPers

>>15139546
>>15139548
>>15139570
post watch or stop calling everyone poor because of stating facts.

>>15139570
cope

>>15139516
Explorer 1 Mk 2 for all.

If your watch is not even worth as much as a 1997 honda civic on craigslist, then it's probably trash.

>>15139552
It's an 18mm lug width but the smallest I could find the MN strap in was 20mm.

Post your 3x3 grails lads

>>15139579
I bet your boipussy is clean and tight

Thoughts about this Raymond Weil? I got it as a gift and was surprised that it is rather expensive.

>>15139605
>Grails
You can still buy all those.

>>15139618
Imo it's loud yet boring at the same time

>>15139618
Looks like Casio's copy of a Rolex.

>>15139516
>>everyday
Citizen bn151
>>dress
Sarb033
>>sport
Boctok SE cushion case on Milanese (pic related)

>>15139516
>everyday
G-Shock 5600E
>dress
Rolex Deepsea
>sport
G-Shock 5600E

>>15139311
7/10

>>15139363
Sick watch dude

>>15139685
Can a boctok watch handle heavy work? Meaning intense vibrations,smacks here and there and hot temperature

>>15139730
Yeah the trick is that you have to buy 50 of them and just replace it when it croaks. Still cheaper than a real watch.

>>15139730
Of coursh!

>>15139605

>>15139776
>that date on the IWC
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>15139784
I fucking love it bro, the watch overall is 10/10

Its fucking 36mm, uses a JLC mecaquartz, can you imagine

>>15139788
4:30 date windows look awful, makes it seem like a total afterthought. That tissot is neat though, never seen that model before. Ref?

>>15139385
eBay, uhrforum, wus, expect to wait a year or two.

Which do you choose?

>>15139793
I dunno, some old thing with a lemania 5100 or a 5100 variant

>>15139605
Whats the ref on that edifice?

>>15139854
> 5100 variant
uh are you sure
> Not released until the 70s
> Central minute totalizer
Perhaps you don't know what you're talking about.

>>15139784
Because knowing the date is important for people with jobs and date window is most useful complication on a wristwatch. No matter how many OCD riddled autists on /wt/ will sperg against them constantly.

>>15139895
Oh, perhaps I'm the one who didn't know what they were talking about, you were talking about the 5100 in >>15139776 not the chrono in >>15139793. Fair enough. The Tissot Navigators had Lemania 1341s.

>>15139881
2

>>15139942
?

>>15139959
Oh, sorry. 3.

>>15139968
easy mistake to make, no worries

>>15139845
I had the left, wouldn't mind the middle, and would never in a hundred years own a watch with a fake metal paint coating and a shitty cheap metal bracelet.

>>15139845
Middle is the best looking one.

>>15139845
whichever one's correct for my Venom Snake cosplay

>>15139391
It's always fascinating to see the mentality of the kinds of retards who buy objectively dogshit automatic turds and try and justify it as an "investment". The value of a watch is about the same as the value of diamonds, it's an inherently low value product, obsolete in many respects, but thanks to marketing there are a lot of idiots out there who think that there's something wrong with quartz.

I have the same level of respect for a man who wears an automatic as I do for a man who wears a bracelet. By which I mean, I have no respect for a man who wears an automatic.

If you absolutely must waste a few thousand dollars on jewellery, at least buy something as functional as a 10 dollar Casio.

Why can't these be more water resistant?

>>15140018
>aerospace chronometer
>"why isn't it waterproof?"

>>15140039
>fighter pilot ejects into the blue
>watch stops working
>sheitling engineers: b-but it wasn't in the design brief
lel

>>15139735
Vostok won't croak before any other watch

>>15140018
100m is plenty unless you're diving.

>>15140126
>watch gets wet
>accidentally press the crown in with back of your hand because it's a button
>watch now has water in it
What were they thinking?

>>15139819
A year or two.. Damn
Do you have one?

>>15140144
Nope. My only vintage LCD is an Omega equinoxe. I have a Junghans 4mhz Chronometer though which is probably about equally rare, and that's about how long I had to look.

>>15139516
what's a "sport watch" exactly?

>>15139516
>everyday
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscaphe
>dress
Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Moon
>sport
Casio G-Shock Solar Mudman

What up seikobros

>>15140229
A watch you wear while you're getting a blowjob from your wife and her gf in your Lambo after you took them to play tennis.

>>15140241
Ah yes, an F-91W

New to watches
Is Bulova a reputable brand in the watch community?

>>15140300
They make some uninteresting watches and same slightly interesting watches.

>>15140300
They're a shadow of their former selves to be honest.

>>15140300
No.

Could I put a Datejust on a fine mesh bracelet to get this aesthetic?

>>15139516
Ive been thinking about this

Longines Monopusher Pulsometer
1815 L&S Chronograph Pulsometer
Bell & Ross Coast Guard

>>15140229
It's a term used by overweight boomer larpers that are too fat to wear tastefully sized watches so they made up a term to make light of that fact akin to "husky".

>>15140300
Not really, they don't meet the standards for HAQ and are mostly notable for one of 3 things:
1. Their history and how it's a shame they don't use tuning fork movements anymore, albeit for understandable reasons.
2. The best way to get a quartz watch with sweeping hands.
3. The Bulova Curv where the actual movement is curved and the whole thing wraps around your wrist.

How do I into Bauhaus, /wt/?

>>15140490
>quartz watch with sweeping hands
who else does this, other than Grand Seiko?

>>15140517
Old Seiko spirits.
Seiko meca-quartz do, but only for the chronograph part.
Various electric watches that have all fallen by the wayside, someone else could probably tell you more.
And of course Bulova. Not all Bulovas are sweeping hand, though.
Note that you can get sweeping hand regular clocks for cheap, if that's your thing.

>>15140375
Big part of the look is the small/vintage size. How big is your datejust. Something like a bubleback or those old oyster date would be much better. Probably 34mm max.

>>15138829
is this re dialed? the date window doesnt seem to fit the time period

>>15140532
I don't have one yet, but 36mm is what I've been looking at

>>15139715
Thanks, hard to find people with taste in these threads

>>15140557
Once again showing that you can't have non-Rolex watches and be taken seriously without "proving yourself" by posting a Rolex too.

>>15139605
I'm a lazy cunt.
My grail collection is a collection of patek 5004a and 5004p, in a ton of color dials, if possible with Breguet numerals.
Of course the 5004g salmon dial from one watch and the Eric Clapton 5004p blue dial.
I love the idea of one day just collect the different and rare varients of the same reference.

>>15140571
The fuck are you talking about? The Rolex isn't mine it's just the only other photo I happen to have of the Gruen.

That Rolex is worth $150k by the way, I would never own it.

>>15140571
You're still here? Why don't you get a job instead of bitching about how you have shit taste and have no money.

>>15140375
Why is that guy wearing a ladies' watch?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264658699763

For whatever anon is looking for a LCD watch like this

>>15140590
Because that's what Chads do

>>>15139605
>3x3
don't hate me too much, lads

>>15139516
>BOCTOK AMPHIBIA
>BOCTOK AMPHIBIA
>BOCTOK AMPHIBIA
With different dials and bands.

>>15140167
Post pics of the equinoxe please.

does anyone else care more about the thickness of a watch more than the width?it's hard to find lower end watches that aren't hockey puck sized

>>15139370
You gotta be trolling.

>>15141024
nope

>>15140594
That one has had a battery leak inside it. Stay clear.

What watch does Nash wear or what is the closest thing?

suggest a watch for me
under $500ish (but i dont mind saving up
dive watch
gmt hand
bracelet
under 42mm

right now im looking at this vostok

>>15141125
that watch is shit. this is better.

>>15141165
stunning

>>15141160
I wonder is that white gold or platinum? either way his wrist must be hurting from that weight

>>15141160
>>15141165
jesus christ stop posting this nigger shit

>>15140375
You sure could, if you really have no better use for your money

Otherwise just any 34 mm round sporty steel watch would be better

>>15141125
Small seconds just don't look right on a diver, even if that diver is a GMT watch.
Speaking of VOSTOK, wat does /wt/ think about Vostok Europe? Besides the fact that their heritage and legacy is absolute bullshit, I really dig some of their styles.
If they were available in non-nigger sizes, I'd probably get me one.

>>15141231
looks fucking disgusting, I cant understand how they would even produce this.

>>15141231
I like it, very flashy

>>15141238
A colorful, bold and yellow diver that doesn't look like sub-clone no. 23498998, what's not to like (besides the fuckhuge size)?

>>15141244
>colorful bold and yellow
Not to mention big, large, and huge lmao.

Nasty yellow, playskool 3 and 9, redundant indices, ridiculous hands, crown not at proper 3o'clock position, name is fucking misspelled.

Literally nothing good, 0/10.

The one you posted here is a lot better, still nothing I would ever consider. Vintage design blows out anything contemporary.

>>15141255
How did you think that the attached picture was going to help your case?

work at a thrift store and picked this up for $3.

Thoughts? what strap should I get it? currently have it on a perlon and seems to be keeping time we'll though out the day. just dies overnight

>>15141262
There is no case. You needed to be shown why a shitter is a shitter.

Just got the 36mm TSAR. Pretty cool little watch.

>>15141268
If it was me I'd out it on a comfy tropic

https://youtu.be/ItLPLMeJLcw

Tudor fags btfo

>>15141255
>Vintage design blows out anything contemporary.
I agree, but sometimes you want something different.

>>15141268
>$3
Jelly!
Yachting watches are an underrated genre, IMHO.

>>15141244
I've never even heard anyone talk about vostok europe, you might as well treat it like a microbrand

>>15139605
My poorfag ver
>Everything under £500

>>15141389
>unscrewed by a nearby shark
I giggled.

Ordered pic related for ~500$. Seems pretty damn fine.
Ironically I had crossed Seiko out for options seems their interesting watches (including pic related) seemed all overprice.

thinking about coping kosmonauta, opinions?

>>15140994
It looks just like every other equinoxe picture out there.

>>15140018
When I saw this from the thumbnail I thought that you censored parts of this watch and were trying to have us guess what it was.

>>15138829
nice anal beads

>>15141231
Vostok is cool. Vostok Europe is dogshit for neighbours.

Can we all agree that Audemars Piguet is a loser brand? It doesn't deserve to be grouped with the likes of Patek and Lange, and even Vacheron far outclasses it.

>>15141231
Ah, the fake estonian vostok europe. With sizes never going under 45 mm and designs so gaudy Hublot should be envious od them.

>>15141698
Even JLC should be ranked higher imo

>>15141362
Quartz? I would get one in 36 mm too, if only they were thinner.

>>15141479
>Pressing a button to tell the time.

Its like a smart watch, only worse. Cool retro aesthetic tho.

>>15139605
>>15140675
>>15141443
prime examples of how /fa/ ruined /wt/

>>15141722
Yep quartz. It’s a little chunky but not too bad. Was just an impulse buy during lockdown.

>>15139605
Oceanus > Edifice
Slightly too nerdy because you have 5 different square casios that aren't g shocks
>>15139776
A nice variety of vintage watches.
>>15140675
If you made a 2x2 of only the top left, it would be based. Nomos is ok, and the rest are questionable. You seem to like the presence, the angles, and screws on those. Then again it's hard to find a good replacement for that aesthetic.
>>15141443
Pretty standard affordable choices. The baltic is a nice choice because of the domed sapphire.

>>15139605
The only watches I'm really crazy about are the Datejust and the Moonwatch

Somebody make a 3x3
> Rolex "Kew A" Speedking 5056 cal 720
> Omega 30T2RG 2364 "3-6-12 dial"
> Omega "Linen" 168.017 cal 564
> Girard Perregaux 32A "Observatory"
> Bulova 214 "Spaceview"
> Seiko 35-9000 "Astron"
> Seiko 9983-7000 "Superior"
> Citizen 8650 "4Mega"
> Citizen AQ6020-53X "0100"

Here you go, delicate wristlet faggies.

https://youtu.be/1Q4LnTdc9gI

>>15141861
Look at that shitty ass bracelet, it doesn't even collapse in on itself so you have to leave it unbuckled to set it flat on your desk. As for the straps I bet they are cheap as shit so you have to spend even more money upgrading your cheap ass watch.
Orient is a great brand if you're a middle school kid.

>>15141875
ya seethe?

>>15141738
How so?

>>15141805
The 3 down the middle are just different variations of the same watch

>>15141858
No

Suggest me a watch
sub 200€
mechanical
can be used
for a wristlet

Anyone have the "hey /g/ is this watch good?" pic with armani / michael kors etc?

Suggest me a watch
sub 200€
mechanical chronograph
can be used
for a wristlet

>>15141922
Read poorfag guide in op

>>15141927

>>15141928
>sub 200€
>mechanical chronograph
I mean you're asking for a Seagull 1963-like watch.

>>15141936
Thanks bud

>>15139605
Yes, I need 3x El Primero

>>15141936
It's time to post the reality.

>>15142009
When will we get high quality chink watches to get a third reckoning of the watch industry?

>>15141885
No, I'm perfectly content and happy not buying Orient.

>>15142020
kek
its funny cause its true

>>15141805
in my alternate life where I'm an extrovert and go into finance, I would rock the shit out of that A. Lange & Sohne

>>15142020
Until recently it may have been pretty imminent. If I recall correctly the CEO of patek was salty bc the chinese were making tourbillons too cheap or something. Now due to kung flu some countries have totally cut their economies off from China (I think Japan) which will probably be followed by a drop in confidence of chink products.
TL;DR chink watchmaking is getting better but exports are suffering

>>15142047
How do you feel about the white gold version?

>>15142102
No, the incident you're thinking about is the release of the Tag tourbillon.

>>15142113
Yeah you're right. Still though Chinese tourbillons and some of their high watchmaking is undercutting the Swiss by a lot and it's only a matter of time until the punters don't give enough of a shit about Swiss made to make up the difference. Recent events will have delayed that but it's still inevitable

>>15142106
God Lange's serif font makes my weewee enlarge

>>15142127
if you say so

>>15139998
>coping this hard

>>15142153
I assume you also wash all your clothes and dishes by hand, right? You do any calculations on an abacus?

>>15141875
What do you want from a $200 dress watch? The bracelets from similarly priced Seiko 5 dress watches are not exactly anything worth writing home about. Obviously you just have some weird hatred against lower priced watches but I'm sure it's not a bad watch if you spend $30 on a good leather strap for it.

>>15141928
Suggest me a watch
Sub 20€
Made out of solid platinum with a mechanical chronograph
Can fit my 4" chicken wrist but still over 40mm
Must say Rolex on the dial

>>15142127
No, I don't think so. Even if the chinks somehow become relatively equal in terms of movement, there are a ton of people who treat watches as a luxury, Veblen good. It took decades for Seiko to gain traction, and we'll be old men by the time China gets the same shtick.

>>15142167
>>What do you want from a $200 dress watch?
That's a dumb concept in the first place. Your watch should cost a lot more than your suit, and if you're wearing a $200 suit for anything but your primary school debate club meetings, you fucked up in life.

>>15142020
As soon as stinky chinky gets over the pandemic and develops (or acquires from elsewhere the IP for) proper lume, a reputation of durability for Seagull movements, and branding that doesn't sound like a slantie's third-level piss-take on euro naming stereotypes. Then they'll be making better clones than the real thing -- but only if wait lists, a multiple kilodollar price tag, and other such bullshit are considered.

As for when S.C. starts competing with refined european and japanese watch designs: fucking never. They'll have their next cultural purge before that, eliminating continuity. Even Taiwan can't into that, for some reason, and they've mostly avoided the mainland bullshit.

>>15141805
Very nice. Especially the corne de vache, day date and Lange.

>>15142172
Maybe so, but I think Apple becoming one of the largest (if not the largest) watch companies in the world signals a shift in the industry away from the luxury Swiss mechanical. Eventually they'll do the exact same thing the Swiss did to the British and french

>>15139845
Middle bc I already own far right

>>15140300
Accutrons are cool. Other than that I wouldn’t.

>>15142173
You sound like a really sad individual. If you're actually serious then I hope you eventually grow up a little bit and stop being a spoiled brat.

>>15142215
Apple is not a watch company. They make nasty consumer electronics that are outdated in a couple of years, then they'll have you buy a new one.
Nothing but furthering the amalgamation of man and technology into a soulless appendix of the emerging Borg. The apple given by the snake!

A watch is a work or art, a tiny mechanical wonder connecting us to the starry heavens above. Quietly telling us our position in relation to the sun, the great life giver.
This nowadays seemingly insignificant achievement have helped us to accurately calculate advanced formulas that have led to the innovations that, engulfed with the Faustian spirit, enabled us to fly like Ikaros himself and reach for the stars!
And you want to equate that to a dumbed down mini computer mostly used to send poop emojis and bastardized spelling. A watch indeed.

>>15142323
How many piss bottles are in your room right now?

>>15142323
Nice writing style but it's still ultimately a cope.

A watch is a tool, that's right an item with utility. Yet according to you having extra options is somehow dishonorable to a watch's spirit?

I'd never buy one of those things cuz it's not to my taste but if it appeals to someone why hate

>>15142323
That's a cool watch. Who else has the astrological stuff besides that one citizen?

>>15142215
Possibly, the swiss watch industry was in a little trouble and pivoted towards AFFORDABLE LUXURY

>>15142173
Fuck no. A few good suits and blazers is way more important than watches.

>>15142342
Enough to satisfy your mom's thirst for at least an hour. She keeps asking me for more of them but if I drink too much water then the piss gets too watery and she complains.

>>15142169
fucking made me cringe

>>15142413
lol

>>15142303
seethe more, poorfag

>>15139998
>diamonds
You don't know shit about diamonds.
Diamonds and coloured stones hold value for generations, it's one of the safest methods to resguard money.
Diamonds are literally funding guerrilla warfare in Africa as we speak,don't even compare it to a watch.

>>15142761
Diamonds are literally one of the biggest scams of all time, the supply is tightly controlled and the public has been manipulated into believing shit like "diamonds are forever" to try and avoid a second hand market, because a diamond is to be considered a fucking heirloom because grandma isn't going to be very happy to find out her 2 grand ring is actually worth 100 bucks.

Precious metals are the way to safeguard your money.

>>15142323
not all watches are supposed to be works of art. smart watches are tool watches like any other, but they just happen to have a unique set of advantages and disadvantages compared to other tool watches

>>15139998
mechanical watches arent supposed to be useful. they are a form of art. are paintings and sculptures useful? no, but they sure are pretty

>>15141928
the seagull 1963 is literally the only watch that checks all of your boxes

>>15138869
Because they don't know any better and it's okay now to mix styles from decades ago because no one has any imagination anymore.

>>15138929
Get the IWC. If you get Elgin, get a pocket watch. Ditch the russian shitter.

>>15138996
Nice..I have one that is almost 20 years old too, haven't worn in a long time becausn need to change the batteryfr..

>>15139008
Do it, but remember that you can get the older version which uses an ETA moement which is just as good in terms of COSC cert. Mine is, and it's fucking awesome.
>pic related of course..

>>15139066
Forget family heirloom. Get what you want, and if yo uhave genetically gifted children who listen to your wisdom then they'l appreciate you handing it down to them. If not they'll seell it afte your dead.

>>15139208
Try one on. Only then can you judge it correctly. Believe me....too many watches looked amazing but after trying them on I decided they were shitters.

>>15139311
Cool collction. Keep going Anon. (missing an obvious Fortis Lemaina 5100)

>>15139363
I actually like the Gruens, but only for the pilot with the quick change for 24hours. Fcking cool complication, though tough to get in good condition today.

>>15139385
Try Chrono24 as well as Ebay....good luck. Ugly as shit watch though.

>>15139398
Yes. do you have a boyfriend?

>>15139472
If you go below 500, I'd go with Citizen...never had a problem in that price range.

>>15139482
Yes, but at the moment I'm happy with my colection until I get my Cal.321

>>15139516
Omega Seamaster Bond from 1997.
Rolex Day-Date.
Omega Seamaster Bond from 1997 OR my current Nighthawk (which can withstand a nuclear blast).
>>15139559
I like women with hairy arms, somewhat.. It makes them seem more animalistic. Fucking rawrrr...

>>15139579
No need, but your speedy looks fun. Can't wait for mine.

>>15139618
Avoid RW like the black plague.

>>15139712
Avoid glasshutte like the plague. They imitate Lange und Sohne but without the proportions and finishing. Fuck them. Save up and get the real thing. Same goes for Tudor.

>>15139845
Middle. It looks most militaristic but with the colour scheme. I'ts not a scheme, it's a conspiracy (anyone know what moveit hat's ffrom?"

>>15139998
It always fascinates me that idiots take the time to show their idiocy as quikcly as possible. I think you should take a good shit, I mean, a really good shit, and then determine with your eyes if you're eating healthily enough. Only then can you judge if paying 700 for the world's cheapest tourbillon is worht it. If you have no idea what I'm saying, then learn to fck yourself. No one cares about your respect, we don't wear watches for you. We wear them for selfish purposes...for teh love of the art, the technology, the ingeniousness of mankind (fuck the >>15140018
feminists). Pic fucking realated

>>15140018
Why should they be? Fucking flight watch. jessus has risen h christ.

>>15140121
Nice first nice watch. I don't like it, but it's anice one anyway. (finishign).

>>1514030>>15140300
It was, not anymre.


>>15140375
You'll never get a fake white girl. Cope, but if you're mature then you won't have to.

>>15140394
Fun options. Go for what is most different to your colelction.

>>15140461
Yo'rue wrong. Sport watch refers to a wath that can handle at the least Polo (reverso) and at most intense diving (Rolex/Omega). Anyoen can wear a watch ,even if they have to re-evaluate their fitness. Fuck off and go jog because you need it.

>>15140513
Bauhaus is a wasted aesthetic, which finisehd itslef int he 1960's. It's beyond meme, it's pseudo-German articistic from the 1998's. As dated as MySpace.

>>15140539
no, it looks fine actually. DeVilles were the bottom Tier, and the combos of dials and hands were not well documented for this styel because of of this. If the movement is running well, then be happy.

>>15140557
Yes, it is hard, But remember that taste is a function of experience and knowledge plus wisdom. you can't expect thsi out of the common rablle.

Nothing else worth responding to. Where is everone? Fucking hell it's like you all died of coronoa when I appear.

Se, this is what Im talking abou, so I'm gonna post ocool watches while the stars turn utnil someone waks the fuck up. maybe it'll induce a change of taste

Unil the nex phse.

And so the hour turnd, without the rise of the moon.

>>15143023
Is that the Speedy with the wonky crown/pushers alignment? Or is something else wrong with it, I remember looking into it because I loved the dial and something was really bad.

>>15143033
No, you're thinking of the day-date Speedy which came out in the 90s. This is the lemania 5100 (jesus.fucking crhsit..took me 3 times to type 51000). it's one of the most reliable and hardy moveents available today, but in this config it's also the most rare. considered the 'Holy Grail', and goes for around 25000 or so on the open market.

Fucking beautiful in person.

>>15143039
Well fuck me in the ass, is there a normal priced reissue or anything? MFMOTMFM looks so bad in comparison (even though it looks great).

>>15143045
No. That's whay it's a grail. That being said, you can get other Lemania 5100s, as the movement was used in many different manufactureres (from porsche to Fortis). The movement is solid, the exectusion of Omega is priceless though.

Glad to see someone is up. Di dyou get blown away by the tornados in Missipppippippii? <obviosly not..but trying tobe friendly>

>>15143050
I have to say I don't really give much of a shit about the movement, it's the dial design and proportions that do it for me, it's like the most serious and iconic looking version of all the watches I like, which tend to have 3 subdials, day/date, and some kind of a bezel.

>>15143064
The movement is important Anon, because if it wasn't reliable then it would be a fucking useless watch. The Lematina 5100 is still beig used in modenr watches today....and this omega version was 86/87, which is fucking 33 y ears ago. That's how good it is.

Regarding the aesthetics, I totaly agree. But such is life. Here..another pic to drool over (not that I haven't done os myself).

>>15143072
And they disappear agian. Fuckgin hell..it's liek watching the ___ repent

>>15143089
Walking onto the turret for a morning shave, bearing the knife crossed over the bowl

>>15143094
Kinch....and the emerald in the silver cigarette case.

>>15143100
Buck Mulligan bartering with the milkwoman

>where is everyone?

>>15143110
Always chosen last for field hocky.

>>15143122
Close your eyes and see.

>>15143134
Until light asks that which if best left unsaid.

>>15143110
>>where is everyone?
Asleep or dead of corona, if Burger, not yet in a shitposting mood if Europoor.

>>15142173
lol.
The Rolexfag is really persistent.

>>15143142
You'd think there'd be more Anons here if most are off work.

>>15143146
Jesuss...every choice is woefully average. Do you ahve no ambition Anon?

>>15141479
I almost got one but they only had the black PVD version.

>>15143147
It's like this everywhere. Way less posters. Strange. Probably all dead, who knows?

And no, I don't have any ambitions when it comes to watches. I'm more of a utiliatarian guy. If it works and I like the look and it's not total crap, it's fine for me. Plus, apart from teh ProTrek, they're all overprized anyways, so I don't see a reason to lust for something even more expensive.
It won't bring me more happiness and it won't improve my live in any meaningfull way, however having 10-50k more in the bank will, so I'd rather get the cheaper watch.
Priorities, my man!

>>15143158
I get the prirotieis, no doubt, but to talk about financial priotires when talkinga bout luxury items is fucking stupid in my pionon. Any watch over 3.95$ is a luxury, so at that point what does it matter having a 200$ or a 20,000$ watch? If you can afford it without it impacting your life in a negative way, then why not?

The lust can be controlled by anyone, but watches are more than their expense. Engineering, reliability, and aesthetics are the main points. Heritage not so much unless you're re-selling.

>pic related is still better than the Oris diver that uses the same movement. If you're stuck in an elevator, at least get the best damn spot and not the piss corner.

>>15143158
C"mon man...you have 4 divers watches in there...2 chronographs, both of them Hauers for some reason, 2 too-many Nomos and a Doxa that should remain in the Clive Cussler novels.

Diversify.

Keep the first Nomos, get rid of the Muhle, keep the Marinemaster, gert rid of the Protrek, get rid of the Hauere Careera, Get rid of the Nomos time zone shit,
Get rid of the Hauer,Doxa, and useless white-bread.

Instead, add
JLC Reverso, Rolex Day-Date, Grand Seiko whatever, Add in a Patek and a Breguet with differing complications depending on variety, and put in an independent like Journe to round it off.

For god's sake man, the world is smaller now than it used to be.

>>15143166
>Any watch over 3.95$ is a luxury, so at that point what does it matter having a 200$ or a 20,000$ watch? If you can afford it without it impacting your life in a negative way, then why not?
I'd put the threshold at a bit higher, since 3.95 will only get you shit that you'd have to replace in short order, so it's probably $10 or whatever that iconic Casio shitter costs.
And yeah, if you're that rich that 200 or 20k is all peanuts to you, it probably won't matter, but dude, for most folks there's a middle ground! Like 200 will really only affect the poorest folks, whereas 20k, that's something even middle class should not just throw away.
Can I buy me a watch for 20k? Sure. Will it negatively affect my life right now? No. I'll just have 20k less on the bank that I don't really need. However, this 20k less now will also mean about 50k less in 20 years, assuming an average return of 5% and nothing happining where I might need that 20k RIGHT NOW, so, I'd rather not.

>>15143173
>JLC Reverso,
Don't like the look
>Rolex Day-Date,
Lol, fuck no! But I'm tempted by pic related or the milgauss
>Grand Seiko whatever,
Just doesn't really speak to me.
>Add in a Patek and a Breguet with differing complications depending on variety, and put in an independent like Journe to round it off.
Never really seen one where I thought
>That's nice, would love to have one.
Always just
>Yeah, well, that's really fantastically executed, but I just don't feel it.

Need a quality yellow strap to go with it for summer. Already contacted Molequin, but they need to source the leather still for this season. Did commission a nice one, the Italian guy contacted me yesterday and said he'd probably be able to get back to his workshop in May.

>>15143174
But that's thef cuking point Anon! Even if we take your value of 10$ as a starting point, anything higher than this is a fucking luxury, so the justification disappears after this.

20K is definitely 50K less if you don't save it in the future, but will you live to see that future? Furthermore, will it matter? It's the same thing people ask themselves when they get married, or if they buy that car, or get that mortgage, or whatever. It's all the same...it's what you can enjoy in this lifetime before it's too late. I'm tno saying be reckless iwth your money, but I am saying that justifying luxury spending is uselesss because th emaning is moot.

>>15143176
It's a shame. It looks awesome, but felt cheap on my wrist. I'm actually saddend by that.

Day-Date - try it on. The modern one looks fucking amazing in Gold.

I know, I hate the aesthetics of Grand Seiko too., but the Technology can't be questioned...fucking awesome. If they put that into George Daniel's aesthetic, I'd be bankrupt.

Patek, Breguet, and Journe require a good long look into their ouvre. I've found a few that are amazing, but it's rare, as the general aesthetic isn't one I like.

I get you anon. Try them on in person though...I guarantee it'll open your eyes, in both positive and negatve ways.

Next post needs a quality watch to go with the fucking urinestrap.

>>15143177
Nice tudor, Won't leather just stain in the summer due to the sweat though?

>>15143179
>20K is definitely 50K less if you don't save it in the future, but will you live to see that future?
I'd hope so. I'm in Europe, so there's a good chance that I will not die of Corona or Corona-induced civil war.
>Furthermore, will it matter?
well, 20k can get me a lot of stuff that'll bring me more enjoyment (or utility) than a watch, so I'd opt for that. Plus, those 50k will help my kid to get a better start at life, so there's that.
>it's what you can enjoy in this lifetime before it's too late.
But I'm already enjoying my life! The only thing missing currently is being able to go out (both as in out and meet friends, and out for /out/ purposes) and a watch won't replace that. In fact, I bought me a new shitter that literally arrived 3 days before lockdown started and I kept it wound in the first 2 days of lockdown and then I just put it into a drawer, because, for what purpose?
But to each their own.

>>15143186
Fair enough..
Good luck Euroanon...I used to live there, glad I'm not there anymore. If you have a kid already, good luck with that too...it's fucking important to set them up for success. Train them well.

Sorry about the new watch though being in a drawer...I wear mine in rotation, even in the lockdown, because I enjoy them all. But I'm old.

Good eve, dream well, and try on the damn day-date (you'll be surprised).

>>15142995
>for teh love of the art,
What art? Most people here own mass produced garbage. Hand assembled? My shitty phone was hand assembled by some chink, does that make it art?
>the technology,
I'm sure that over the years, the humble washboard went through many stunning adaptations. From rocks, to glass, to metal. And some of those facets are still preserved today in the construction of washing machines.

But nobody in a first world country looks at a washboard and thinks "man, I need one of those!".
>the ingeniousness of mankind
Pure grandstanding. Quartz, and electrical engineering in general, are far more ingenious than clunky mechanical motion.

>>15142862
Watches aren't art. They're jewellery. I know this board is for "men" who wear skinny jeans, but you might as well buy yourself a diamond ring and a necklace, faggot.

>>15143190
>If you have a kid already, good luck with that too...it's fucking important to set them up for success. Train them well.
That's the plan! (Oh, and he's going to inherit a fantastic shitter collection ;^) ).
Good night to you too!

>>15143199
>Watches aren't art. They're jewellery.
But there can be some art in jewelery. Pic related probably could be considered such. Not saying it's good, but it probably fits the bill.
Oh, and I'd totally like a glass washing board, now that you say it.

>>15143206
At this point "art" has regressed so hard that taking a shit on a plate is considered art, so I guess it's a moot point either way.

>>15143208
Kinda agree, but if we're going the "classical"
>Art is about skill and beatuy
way, instead of looking at the message, then (mechanical) watches with (some) hand assembly are definitely art, since there's a shitload of skill and beauty involved.

>>15143181
Thank you. Maybe a little bit and that's ok. The Molequin straps have a 'water resistant' lining to counter that as much as it can. On very hot days I'll wear something else on steel, nylon or rubber anyways.

>>15143212
I don't think hand assembly is art, it's basic skill. You don't jizz yourself every time you re-assemble a engine block, do you?

Is it fiddly work? Absolutely. But what was impressive a hundred years ago, isn't that amazing now. If you're buying a one-off hand manufactured custom movement, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp_jjDCov0A , then fair enough, there's skill involved in the design and production. But for your average rolex, it's just the same basic bitch design with some very mild improvements over the decades. The only skill you're paying for is the fucking engraving, you ponce.

>>15143199
watches are art. if you cannot appreciate the technology, innovation, history, and craftsmanship of a mechanical watch, then youre an idiot plain and simple. the art of a mechanical watch is in its design and in the watchmaker's expression of technological skill in mechanical engineering

>>15143224
>I don't think hand assembly is art, it's basic skill.
nevermind hes a moron. how about you make a watch? a little harder than a washboard, right?

>>15143224
>I don't think hand assembly is art, it's basic skill.
Have you ever looked at a watch movement? That's way more than a basic skill. And unlike an engine that has an actual purpose, a watch doesn't reall yhave one, so I'd consider it art.

>>15143224
>I don't think hand assembly is art, it's basic skill.
mhm basic skill yup

>O-only incels wear cheap Casios!
Wrong.

>>15143177
Really nice Tudor. I've been hunting for an auto wind 390 for a while, something close to this,

What is the apex of current production (>100 per year) watch movements?

>>15143229
>>15143235
Have you guys really never seen a loupe or a pair of tweezers before? This kind of shit would only be impressive if you're an absolute moron who thinks gears are magic or something.

>>15143232
>a watch doesn't reall yhave one,
I know zoomers just use their phones these days, but watches are for telling the time. Automatic movements are terrible for telling the time. It'd be like owning a fucking grandfather clock instead of a 2 dollar wall clock.

>>15143252
>I know zoomers just use their phones these days, but watches are for telling the time. Automatic movements are terrible for telling the time. It'd be like owning a fucking grandfather clock instead of a 2 dollar wall clock.
That's what I'm saying, not sure why you felt the need to add some more detail to my point.

>Have you guys really never seen a loupe or a pair of tweezers before? This kind of shit would only be impressive if you're an absolute moron who thinks gears are magic or something.
They aren't magic, but this shit is complicated! I can work with most mechanical stuff, but watch movements, that's just another level and much more difficult than your basic ass car engine.

>>15138829
NEW

>>15143261
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>>15143239
Great looking one, that.
There's a good one on ebay right now, not sure about the price, though. Also not sure about the hands on it.

>>15143268

https://m.ebay.nl/itm/Rolex-Tudor-Oyster-Prince-7909-watch-CAL-390-North-Greenland-Expedition-version/254385988283?hash=item3b3a9622bb:g:L-kAAOSwRc9dnfEu

>>15143252
>incoherent nonsense about why mechanical watches are actually very easy to manufacture
yeah youre literally just objectively wrong idk what to say man. read a book?

>Automatic movements are terrible for telling the time.
imagine missing the point this hard. no mechanical watchmaker is trying to make the most practical watch ever made ever. its impractical in the same way any other form of art is. whatever world you live in sure is dull

>>15139579
Of course its a speedmaster, what else would it be

>>15143271
Yeah I already contacted that seller. He wasnt willing to budge on his price much and I would have had a few hundred in export fees on top. It's been on ebay for months because it's way overpriced. Should be about a $1000 watch.

What is the best field watch?

Is The Hamilton Khaki Field better in mechanical or automatic?

Will actually use for /out/ need advice.

>>15143391
Pretty sure the manual wind one is way less waterproof

>>15143391
Get something that's a bit more robust like a Boldr Venture/Expedition or if you've got more money an Archimede Outdoor or something if you actually are planning on going Innawoods with a mechanical watch instead of a quartz/solar. While Hamilton makes decent watches and their field watch design is classic, the low water resistance rating and lack of a screw down crown are not the best for real /out/ shenanigans.

Are oris shitters?

>>15143391
Just get a g shock

Thoughts on the 1851? Manually wound with a seriously nice bracelet but a whopping 44mm. It just looks so classic. My wrist is 7in but 44mm is still pretty big

clean movement and watch. looks funny but if theres no bidders I might try to get it. It has a Certina 13-22 movement. does anyone have info on it?

>>15141443
Man I want that alpinist so badly

>>15143917
There's still a shit ton of them online for under $400 and you can get that strapcode bracelet fairly easily. The new 2020 alpinists are also not unreasonable (though more expensive and better finishing/movement than the SARB017) and a lot of retailers will let you choose whether you want it on a strap or bracelet.

>>15142995
Kys fatass

>>15143146
That first nomos is patrician AF, good taste anon

I'm happy with this recent bad boy, thanks for your suggestions anons.

>>15143238
I've seen that picture around a lot, what's the context?

>>15144464
That's a "polycule" i.e. people in a "polyamorous relationship" that gained fame in various "articles" promoting the "lifestyle". The chick got preggers, and after a short while one of the dudes (supposedly) shook the baby so hard he almost killed it.