/fa/ - Fashion

No Vostok wristhot? What a shame.

what looks like this? <$1000 if possible

>>15085180
Maurice Lacroix Aikon
D1 Milano
Dozens of Aliexpress homages

>>15085180
Spectre Phantom
$650

>>15085180
Just save up for that.

>>15085180
Luch Ego 95930231

based new watch thread

>>15085180
Seiko sarb033

>>15085171

>>15085171
>Seiko sarb033
Mine is in transit. Currently in Greece.

>>15085406
Pretty much the only Rolex I like

>>15085171
Mine is in transit. Currently in Greece.

>>15085171

Thread DOA

>>15085839
What do you expect from a shit OP? Told them not to fuck it up in the last thread and yet they did.

>>15085839
everyone kill from corona r.i.p. in peace

>>15085171
am strongly debating getting the classica when it’s back in stock

>>15085908
>not getting komandirskie or Amphibian classic

>>15085916
I’m greedy weak willed bastard, anon. Of course I already have one and will get the other eventually! The classica just seems to be a hot ticket that sells out fast and no one on ebay sells.

>>15085922
>Dial in English

Mr. Deschoux talking about Swatch and what Mr Hayek has meant for Swiss watchmaking in general.

https://youtu.be/m2B3nHfIlEA

>>15085635
this.

If we think of watches like a piece of long lasting gear with specs like cars or cameras, who makes the best watch for the dollar?

>>15085954
Purely functionally?
A Japanese mid-end quartz.

>>15085954
G-shock

>>15085954
Oris

>>15085954
casio.

>>15085954
f91w

Probably never gonna have my Heuer back from service. Fuck chinks

>>15085954
Casio W-800. Mine survived military service in infantry and every other endeavor since I bought it in 2012.

Don't get a f91w, those things don't last.

>>15086210
And it costs like $20

I have been saving up for this one but I feel a bit stupid to spend 400€ on watch so I'm not sure if I should buy it

https://discord.gg/N5yPpx
discord group for watch lovers
please bring a trap with you if you join, although this is not a requirement
Thank you!

why does Tissot cost more than Seiko?

>>15086267
S W I S S

>>15086215
dont buy a fucking watch right now its a literal global pandemic and economic depression

>>15086327
Yeah I lost a fifth of my investments. Ironically I was going to cash out some of the ones that dropped a couple months ago, to buy a watch.

>>15086165
I'm sorry, anon

What does /wt/ think of stowa? Was considering picking one up on the used market.

>>15086439
I like them, hand wind, Marine, Roman's, no date, 36mm.

>>15085958
Are we talking like a $100 citizen or a casio oceANUS

>wear my Speedmaster while engaging in sexy times with my gf
>not going to go into too much detail but hand slips in above the wrist
>soft feces seeps into the watch
Does anyone know how much the repair would cost and how would I even explain this?

>>15086439
I've got two: the Baumuster B dial and the Marine Auto. Great watches and the customer service is top-notch.

>>15085839
Move this thread back to /g/ it’s been here over a year now and it’s destroying fa

>>15085954
Off topic post . Thus has nothing to do with Fashion thus is clearly entirely an TECHNOLOGY thread

So I've been working on a project to take an amplified piezo microphone from a weishi 1000 timegrapher and hook it up to a basic digital oscilloscope to measure watch movements more accurately. Most oscilloscopes, including this one, have more accurate and stable timebases than cheap timegraphers, so they're suitable for measuring more precise watches, including high-accuracy quartz pieces (the spec for the weishi 1000 is 2spd). Here you can see the oscilloscope triggering on a tick of a basic swiss lever escapement. You can visibly see the unlock, impulse, and drop/lock components of the sound.

>>15086705
Proper cable shielding and placement is really important to avoid noise that obscures the weaker parts of the signal. For instance, in this diagram, the amplified microphone is being driven off of a DC signal generator that was letting some 132KHz noise leak through, presumably from some switching power supply on the same circuit. The signal cable from the microphone to the scope also formed a large loop antenna, introducing RF-range noise, as well as crossing over a mains cable, introducing 60Hz noise. Both of these resulted in a significantly worse signal.

>>15086705
Neat. How are you hooking up the mic to the scope?

>>15086711
Here's an example with an accutron 214. The signal is considerably less well defined due to higher-order harmonics in the watch signal. You can see the pulses come at the proper 360Hz, but there are two peaks per pulse. My assumption is the tines are somehow out of phase with each other, possibly due to debris on the tines (since the regulators on the tines appear to be balanced).

>>15086717
Very simple. The microphone has some kind of mini-DIN connector with three contacts. Two are for DC power (around 9V from a 9V battery seems to do, since I was getting so much noise from the DC signal generator). The third is the signal, which at zero sound is halfway between the VCC and GND. I use AC coupling on the scope to throw in some capacitance to bring the mean of the signal to 0V instead of 4.5V, to allow more precise measurement. The actual connection is a basic 1x BNC scope probe.

>>15086728
Here's a measurement of an Omega 720Hz tuning fork. The signal is even noisier than the accutron, so instead of trying to trigger on it, I trigger on the 1KHz test output, triggering once every 125 rising edges (resulting in triggering 8 times per second, which divides into 720Hz evenly). I then take an average of 64 observations to draw the waveform. The 720Hz period is very obvious, as are some higher-order harmonics. The average signal drifts to the left by about 500 microseconds per 35 seconds, implying an average rate of 2.5spd, though I need to actually measure to see whether this is the actual watch drift rate or a drift in the 1KHz test port.

>>15086728
>>15086711
>>15086705
OFF TOPIC if u want to discuss this go to /g/

>>15086728
Oh so you just straight up touched the probe to the signal pin and ran some wires to a battery for power? Straight forward enough. I do happen to have a rigol and a weishi 1900 sitting around so I might just do this at some point.
>has an accutron 214 and an omega megasonic
Are you me?

>>15086742
Quit winging, this is cool as hell and on topic

>>15086746
It's very straightforward. The pins on the female connector on the weishi microphone are even numbered. With the dimple on top, pin one (rightmost) is +9V, pin 2 (lower pin) is signal, and pin 3 (left pin) is GND. Yes, I provided power just with some alligator clips attached to a 9V battery.

>>15086760
Now I'm just wondering if I could design an adapter box & 3D print it with male pins for the mic connector, a battery compartment and a BNC cable output so you could just plug it right into the scope. I assume those standard DC adapters like what comes with the weishi are too noisy as well?

>>15086787
The DC adapter in the weishi is a switched mode power supply and puts out a decent amount of noise. I'd suggest just having a compartment ofr a 9V battery with a 9V controller. I also got a lot of noise just on the circuit in general, depending on what else was plugged into the outlet.

>>15086803
*for, *connector, eesh

>>15086757
It’s not! You want watch threads and want to know more about watches??? You go to /g/

>>15086705
>Seiko sarb033
>>15086711
>>15086728
>>15086739
Based autist

Hope I was as smart as you

>>15086705
>>15086711
>>15086728
>>15086739
Based autist

Hope I was as smart as you

> This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required
This fucking thread is cancer and NOT FASHION RELATED

> >/fa/ - Fashion - Rules
>Images and discussion should pertain to fashion and apparel.

>>15086910
Tell that to the mods, turbofaggot.

I made this thread, it was the right thing to do. If you want a better op than make it.

>>15086910
Fucking newfag. You dont remember how mods moved this from /g/ to /fa/ do you?

>>15086951
Based Casio Marlin

>>15086952
>Fucking newfag
It's the same guy that got the mods to remove the threads from /g/.
There is one (or several) autists that hate all generals and try their best to shit them up and get them removed from all boards. Probably repressed rage that they got made fun of by a tranny in a /vg/ thread half a decade ago.
Don't reply, they just want to shit up the thread as much as possible with the least effort.

>>15085140
those chronos are garbage and made by dozens of random factories completely unrelated to seagull btw.

>>15086165
the white guy who serviced my seagull took 3 months + having to bring it back to him 2 weeks after collection (faulty mainspring) and another months wait.

watchmakers are universally slow as fuck.

>>15086993
Ecuador is nice this time of year btw

>>15086439
they farm manufacture of basically everything out to someone else and then assemble it. However, what do you expect for sub €1k

>>15085954
longines Conquest V.H.P
5 seconds a year deviation (better than grand seiko quartz) for £700.
citizen sells the best quartz watch at 1 second per year but that's $14k

theres too many watches

Who was in the wrong here?

Anyone like to share their thoughts on Breetling?

Nasty comments/incorrect opinions will be ignored.

>>15087129
Nice NWBIG.

Should i get this one?...or...

...or..this one?

>>15087138
You really gonna buy a women's rolex with diamonds on it? Are you black or and Indian (dot)?

didnt even realize it was women ver., here's the one im talking about

Leaked tgv wwc

>>15086678
Fa is destroying itself (as it always has), no need to blame /g/. When was the last time you were in a genuinely good thread?
Even the dick ovens period was better than the current
>lol, what core iz dis/post *core/dark academia
Bullshit. If anything, /wt/ improves the board.

Apropos the current pandemic thing going on, are watches autoclave compatible? Will an autoclave treatment clean them up, or damage the crystal or waterseals or something?

>>15086739
I remember using my own phone as a timegrapher once. You might want to put the watch and mic in one of those rf shielded boxes to be sure

>>15087184
No, and watches are extremely unsanitary. Too bad, i guess watches are cancelled for the next year or so.

>>15087184
UV light box. Sanitises 100%

>>15087129
How much is this? Around 3k Id rather omega.

>>15087218
It's actually 8k

>>15087152
This but with baton indices.

>>15087142
>>15087152
They have totally different moods. The Datejust is dressier because it has a simplier color scheme and a more flashy bracelet. The Black Bay has a warmer dial because of the gold and red but a more tool watch aesthetic overall with the faux-riveted bracelet and large hands. If that's the older Black Bay I think the watch has some funny proportions, it feels larger than it seems like it should be and the bracelet is kind of chintzy compared to how far along mainline Rolex bracelets have come. You should try it on in person. No experience with the new Black Bays though I hear they're perfect.

Why do i like this vintage quartz shitter so much?

>>15087129
Too big. Id go full Tudor BB. The case is ugly in both tho.

>>15087274
Vintage Seikos are cool, I have this 7T52.

I like my quartz collection... What do you think /wt/?

>>15087280
So nice, mine is a humble 7t42.

After spending a couple of years at less than 1spd, this watch has now been keeping perfect time to the second for over a month with correct night time positioning. BASED LONGINES

Here's the latest shitter to make its way into my collection.

>>15087332
Nice (if you can pull it off).
I really like those gaudy gold watches (ironically, of course) but I could never wear them.

>>15087343
Thanks Anon, I love my gaudy 70's and 80's shitters as well. There's just something about them that draws me in and I can't explain it. It's like a curse or something.

Considering my overall look is Coogi sweaters and I'm a mid-late 20's boomer I think I can pull it off about as well as I possibly can without being a coke dealer from the 1980's.

Here's a close up picture I took of the dial before cleaning it up and restoring it to all of its shitter glory.

>>15087367
That dial is meh, but that fucking textured case is pure kino! What did ou pay for it?

Seriously considering the Max Bill Chrono. Thoughts?

>>15087384
Looks fantastic! I’d love to have one, but I can’t really justify the mo ey for it.
And of course, it’s quite useless if you actually need an accurate stopwatch, but who cares, it’s /fa/.

>>15087384
Don’t get the chrono. The point of Bauhaus is simplicity

>>15087283
Align your bezels, that picture triggers my 'tism

>>15087332
What the fuck is going on with that bracelet. It looks like old carpet painted with gold.

Nice retro vibes tho.

>>15087274
I get you. I have this vintage shitter and I wear it more than my orient diver. They have character

>>15087379
Bought it as a project shitter for £6.50 with postage included in the cost.

>>15087391
A misunderstanding of bauhaus

Is this watch a fake?

>>15087455

>>15087391
>>15087450
Fuck bauhaus, fuck jannies, and fuck you

>>15087458

>>15087458
Why would someone make a fake of that hideous monstrosity? Stop accepting stolen goods as payment for drugs.

>>15087223
>8k

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/breitling/superocean-heritage-ii-42-ab2010161c1a1--id8810534.htm


£3k new and the they go for £2k - £2.2k on eBay used. Keep lapping and drivers are retarded, you would be better of with an explorer or sonething in that styling, driver wear to big, heavy and clumsy on the wrist.

>>15087471
Learn how to speak English you drunken slav kike.

>>15087466
it was a gift from a friend.

Cheaper version of this?

>>15087491
Orient Bambino

>>15087332
Best watch I've seen in these threads in a while. The fact you wear Coogi makes it even better. Every time I look on ebay these great/terrible watches draw me in.

Demonstration of beat error. The scope triggers 10 times per second (so the right-hand signal is the tick, then the tock, then the tick again, etc., and the left signal is vice versa). If there was no beat error, the tick and tock would stay in the same place. The distance between the tick and tock is the beat error.

>>15087330
>correct night time positioning
which is?

So where are all the cheap watches that were supposed to be dumped on the market when the economy tanked?

>>15087778
The luxury brands are holding their breath and waiting, ask again in a few months

>>15087865
>chronograph dive watch
what's the point?

>>15087872
No idea, don't dive. Just liked the look of it.

>>15087872
Being able to time two independent things simultaneously can be very handy in a nautical environment, including diving.

>>15087876
you don't have to dive. most people with chronographs will never need to time anything down to the split second. it's just weird to see a chrono dive watch because it's combining two different aesthetics. chronographs are supposed to look busy and precise and almost elegant with their complexity. dive watches are supposed to be simple, rugged, bulletproof. mixing the two is just strange.
>>15087879
you aren't supposed to activate the chronograph underwater. if you do you will probably break the watch. that's why it has screw-down pushers.

>>15087884
Maybe that juxtaposition is why I like I so much. Not like a while lot else in that price range

Just got a gshock 5525 and this shit is stuck on CHG for a few hours now with nothing else on the screen.
Did i get a broken watch or is this supposed to charge for a full day before it starts working?

>>15087899
That is not normal. I would send it back.

Hey /wt/ what do you think of my Seiko?

Will the mass boomerdeath result in good deals on used rolexes?

>>15087899
Put it in bright window or under lamp for 24 hours. If that doesn't fix it send it back

What is this? Olympic athletes get free watches?

https://youtu.be/Cjg_ouNJnHw

>>15087977
of course not

I can't stand watches with no lume, it's inexcusable in this day and age. I dont want that fancy trinket I spent a month's wage on to be completely useless after the sun sets

>>15088205
I'm a sucker for good lume but I don't write off watches that don't have it. Some watches have very nicely faceted markers so even with no lume it's possible to tell time if there's even a hint of light because they reflect it so well.

>>15088205
just use your phone flashlight to light up your watch when it's dark

>>15085954
g shock.

>>15086098
F105W is better. The 91 is just what people say because they bought the line, but never the watch.

>>15088205
>not just using indiglo or whatever casio uses

>>15088264
This, the F105W is what most people mean anyway. It's the same watch but with an actually usable backlight.

>>15088278
When are watchmakers going to take advantage of the World's Glowiest Glow?

>>15088205
when are you ever in a level of darkness that necessitates the presence of lume, honestly?

any good deals

>>15087677
Crown up to slow it very slightly

>>15088330
Bed?

>>15088330
I have a long commute and it's often dark when I get home. I want to be able to glance at my watch and easily tell the time. Though I'd imagine with bright colored dial it won't be necessary

>>15088330
I used to travel for work and sometimes I would roll over in bed and only be able to tell the time by the lume on my watch because I would be in a place with no electricity.

>>15088330
Roughly two thirds of the winter day, not to mention any time you get up at some unknown hour and want to just see the time without getting out of bed.

Holy fucking shit Archie actually bought a good watch what is happening.

>>15088394
>managed to swap a plain dial 5296 for a 6006

This is the greatest achievement AC3 will ever manage in his life.

>>15088393
do you live on the great scandicock region or what?

>>15085180

>>15088394
Is this supposed to be one of the nicer pateks? It looks like something fossil would make.

>>15088536
Congratulations, you have realized Patek Philippe is just a huge fucking wank

WATCH THREADS. Belong on /g/. If you want to discuss them GO TO TECHNOLOGY board. Make your watch general on /g/
>/fa/ - Fashion - Rules
>Images and discussion should pertain to fashion and apparel.

>>15088598
Watches are almost entirely fashion now. Even the biggest geeks who are into the movements and engineering still wear them as a statement.

>This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the
>micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

As per your OP, this is clear a technology THREAD! GO TO TECHNOLOGY board. Make your watch general on /g/

>>15088604
This board has enough space for 150 threads at any given time so you can just go to the other threads and talk about skinny jeans and your jamiroquai hat or whatever. Watches are fashion.

>>15088605
This thread acts like a sticky constantly at the top and it breeds off topic threads . If you were just fashion anons discussing watches it would either never be constantly at the top or it would slide off the board . YOU DONT BELONG ON FA. 95% of thread discussion relates to the TECHNOLOGY of the watches not FASHION. YOU DONT BELONG ON FA . Go back to /g/ where you belong

>>15088610
>95% of thread discussion relates to the TECHNOLOGY of the watches not FASHION.
No it doesn't, retard. Fuck off

>>15088604
I'd happily do it, I feel shame that I have to share a board with the other /fa/ggot limp wristed fucks like you.
Go whine to the mods so /wt/ can return to /g/, pretty please.
4chan.org/feedback
https://www.rizon.net

>>15088604
>Make your watch general on /g/
That's a good way to get banned for 24 hours if you need to keep off of 4chan.

>>15088612
Tanks I am not doing this because I hate watches but because I love fa

>>15088615
Why? What you say makes absolutely zero logical sense. Watch discussion is TECHNOLOGY discussion. Watches are. Just technology that you wear

>>15088620
Clothes were invented so people wouldn't freeze so it's just technology that you wear. Go make your salmon jeans thread on /g/.

>>15088612
I get it I watch producer Mike I understand how a lot of “watches” are just diamond bracelets with clocks attached to them . That’s why G offloaded this general onto fa a year ago . Bc trolls spam only thug gold watches so it makes watches look like jewelry instead of wearable technology.

Having WT on fa has thrown our board out of equilibrium it’s not just a little issue it’s WRONG

if watches were purely technology we'd all be wearing square g-shooks but instead people humiliate themselves to pay retard amounts of money for Patek watches that are not much more technologically advanced than watches from WW1

>>15088612
I need to align my case better before I take it it to moot. He has to know the facts

>>15088627
Add "/wt/" to your filter and you wont even notice the difference.

>>15088627
>>15088635
In 4chanX:
/\/wt\//i;boards:fa;op:only

>>15088300
Which is?

Inb4 not great, not terrible.

>>15088635
1. Already done that
2. For some reason having that in filters fucks 4chan up and it hides completely non related threads also
3. The filter is unusable
4. This is irrelevant though and clearly you don’t read my post
5. >>15088610
>WT acts like sticky causing distorted board culture
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>>15088647
Right now you are being a bigger blemish on this board than a watch thread could ever be, because you are bitching about a fashion thread

>>15088615
Oh no, the horror.

>>15088647
>2. For some reason having that in filters fucks 4chan up and it hides completely non related threads also
You probably didn't put quotes around it

>>15088641
You aren’t understanding the greater point here. It’s not about ME not having to see the WT. it’s about how WT (a non fashion related but actually TECH elated THREAD) acts like a proxy sticky for anyone who is actually interested in FASHION APPERAL CLOTHING FASHION INDUSTRY SHOES PANTS SHIRTS SOCKS HATS JACKETS and the other off topic threads it creates because anons constantly see
>WATCH HENERAL
>this thread is about TECHNOLOGY ANDAPPRECIATION OF WATCHES AND THENCOMPONENTS AND BLAH BLAH
(Ie this a thread sticky on FA but it’s not concerned with the fashion aspect of a watch it’s concerned with basically EVERYTHING BUT that) (the components and tech aspect of it )

Don’t be so low iq please

>>15088660
Watches are fashion, you sperg. Even the most diehard fan of watches will admit it. You should accept it.

>>15088660
Ie. If you want to play nice on fa you must at least take out that TECH centric op blurb. Or else you don’t even care and you are just bitter holdouts from G who hate FA and it’s culture but want to undermine it. This issue is part of a much larger problem (thug culture). Wouldn’t it be awful if that troll who got you booted from G came back to fa

>>15088661
>Watches are fashion
Right sure just like
>architecture is fashion
>face rate threads are fashion
>interior design is fashion

>>15088663
Watches are more of a personal fashion statement than the vast majority of clothing.

>>15088661
>Watches are fashion,
Your op sure doesn’t sound like u care much about FAshion see
>>15088604

>>15088665
In fact it seems like (based on your op) you never even changed the op since your precious WT got booted from G

>>15088666
The only thing that changes about /wt/ since the move is less F-91Ws and more dumb faggots like yourself

>>15088661
Just like headphones are? Why is headphones general not on MU then why is it still in G you utter fucking dumb cunt

People who are this much into watches to makes this threadvbump so often (that it acts as a proxy sticky) are not FA you are TECH you are all bumping because of your hard-ons for gears and TECH. This thread does not belong in fa . There should Be watch threads once in a while on fa NOT ALL THEBFUCKING TIME ATVTHE FUCKING TOP

WATCHES ARE AN AFTER THOUGHT for us fa anons. They are ACCESSIRIES

>>15088676
Fuck off.

>>15088676
>Noooooooo stop talking about things I don't like!!! This is literally fascism ur a fascist

>>15088676
(you)

>>15088679
>deliberately proclaims how they hate faggots and fashion yet spends all his time on his watch/cope thread on fa.

>>15088693
>because he was too much of a cucked pussy to fight for his watch thread on G. So now he exists in exile in the fa faggot realm, pretending he just doesnt see

>>15088676
>WATCHES ARE AN AFTER THOUGHT for us fa anons. They are ACCESSIRIES
And that right there is why you are an ugly, un/fa/, virgin looser. Watches are the most important part of an outfit! In fact, you can wear a watch and nothing else and pull pussy!
>Vostokchad’wrist’shot.jpg

>>15088705
>And that right there is why you are an ugly, un/fa/, virgin looser.
Project much?

Imagine being this triggered by a thread you don't like

Whats the coolest watch?
Whats the most uncool watch?

id on this casio?

Should I get a rolex Air-king 14000 as an everyday piece? Or are there better alternatives?

>>15088877
>Rolex Submariner
>Rolex Daytona

>>15088892
buy it, its perfect and versatile af

Found a scan of a service bulletin for a rare transitional Timex model 62 movement. The model 62 was essentially a retrofitting of the model 4x series with a quartz timing package. The balance is impulsed by an electromagnet, and the timing of the electromagnet is controlled by an integrated circuit attached to a quartz crystal. This design was not very common, it was used only by a few manufacturers (Citizen and Luch come to mind).

The timex uses a very unusual quartz frequency of 49,152 Hz (as opposed to the much more common 32,768 Hz). The reason is obvious when you look at the frequency of the balance wheel (21,600bph, or 6 ticks per second). A series of 13 flip-flop circuits divides the frequency by 2^13, or 8192, which divides a 49,152Hz signal down to 6 pulses per second.

>>15088877
>Whats the coolest watch?
Rolex Submariner
>Whats the most uncool watch?
Rolex Air-king

>>15088980
If we're sticking to rolex it should be more like
Milgauss
Yachtmaster

>>15088892
Just be prepared to deal with people accusing you of "Air Kinging" I understand people who only own an air king aren't well liked in the rolex community.

>>15089079
>Just be prepared to deal with people accusing you of "Air Kinging"
what the fuck does that even mean, and why do people get upset about it? people who own rolex sound like the biggest fags on earth

>>15089093
They are. This phenomenon isn't excusive to rolex obviously. People who show up to porsche events in a 924 probably deal with the same stigma.
They don't like people "cheapening" the brand by getting into the community by buying the cheapest option and nothing else.

>>15089093
A lot of luxury brands are like that because they attract commodity fetishists.

>>15085954
>watch for the dollar
Probably Casio F-91W or F-84W (JDM, same module but slightly smaller case).
F-105W if the bad light of the aforementioned ones bothers you.

Opinions on this shitter?

>>15089184
>chrono without a tachy
i'll never understand it

>>15089104
Is the entire point of a Rolex watch just being expensive so that you can lord over others by owning one? It would explain a lot since many Rolexes look like gaudy shit anyway but people fork over fat stacks and suck uncontrolled amounts of dick to have one.

>>15089231
>>Is the entire point of a Rolex watch just being expensive so that you can lord over others by owning one?
Literally what the fuck else would it be the point? It's also the most recognizable luxury brand in the world, so it's better to have a $10k Rolex than a $500k Federico Pederico de Journe invetoro di fecalis.

what's the upper price limit for a mechanical watch before it becomes a luxury status item meant to flex on the masses?

>>15089250
>Literally what the fuck else would it be the point?
I assumed that Rolex watches were actually good for something besides inflating your peen

>>15086165
you sent your heuer for service in china?

>>15089256
Over 1500 dollars since at that point you are well past being able to justify the price as being for quality or specialization.

>>15089257
Like what lmfao?

>>15089263
That's less than a month of minimum wage kek, try and quadruple that. It's gotta fucking hurt.

>>15089268
The masses consider paying 300 dollars for a watch to be a lot, so over 1500 is significant and then past that you're just going full retard.

>>15089231
i'm getting bored of rolex

>>15089291
get a patek

>>15086210
>Don't get a f91w, those things don't last.
Six years for $10 is fine by me. The only thing on the f91ws that eventually breaks is the strap anyway.
>Casio W-800
Sorry man but those are ugly as fuck. However, they do complement a pair of jorts and light-up velcro sneakers.

>>15089297
this one, w71-1, is better than the W-800, but of course casio quit making it

It's all about the Casio AW1200WH

>>15089291
get a breitling

>>15089291
get a job

>>15089309
>AW1200WH
>le james bond larp watch

>>15089309
This ones way better

>>15089321
You mean a Rolex?

>>15089321
You mean an Omega?

>>15089256
Depends on the people around you, it could be $500 or it could be $2k

>>15089359
>the masses
the average income in the US is ~60-65k/yr., so about what price watch would be a hard ask? like 2k? one figure for average disposable income in the US puts it at just over 3k per month.

>>15089366
I have no fucking idea what you're even trying to ask here anymore, just get a Rolex retard.

>>15089366
Do you want a watch to look like a rich asshole? Just get a gold Rolex

>>15089321
You mean a Hamilton Pulsar?

>>15089266
quality, build, design, durability...? are you a fucking idiot actually?

>>15089390
you can just get a g-shock which is superior to a rolex in all of those aspects. if you want superior build and quality grand seiko and omega blow rolex out of the water for half the price.

>>15088891
sold out

>>15089392
You can't go wrong with a rolex. If you don't like it you can sell it and get your money back.

Invitca a shit

>>15089392
That's not true of Omega. They make good watches but Rolex doesn't have problem children movements. Finish levels are about par for the two. GS destroys them both.

>>15089225
What would you use your tachymeter on anyway?

>>15089366
Most people in the US throw shit at their debt or rent, then their retirement accounts, and they have basically nothing left. Some democeatic candidate had a $900 watch and people still bitched about it. In the right place, though, a few thousand is a modest sum.

>>15088877
>Vostok
>Vostok

>>15089079
>aren't well liked in the rolex community.
If anything that's more of a positive. I don't ever want to interact with the Rolex "community" for essentially any reason. I just think they're neat and I want a 16570

>>15089366
>60-65k/year
Take out a third of that in payroll and income taxes as well as health insurance.
That leaves you with ~40k. Now assume your rent/mortgage is 1k/month that leaves you with 28k. Start adding up all the other bills and expenses and your disposable income isn't all that much.

>>15089874
>their debt or rent
there are definitely people that are not responsible with their money, but debt and rent are kind of unavoidable for people in the US that dont come from a wealthy background

first you have to have college debt since you generally need college if you want a decent job (and unless your parents are wealthy you'll need to pay yourself), then in most of the US public transportation sucks so you need a car (which unless you have cash you'll need to finance). On top of all that, people wont even have the cash for down payment to buy a place so rent it is.

so in the end you own nothing of value and have a shitton of debt and rent that sucks up a good chunk of your income.

>>15089929
also this

>>15089931
>first you have to have college debt since you generally need college if you want a decent job
Not true.

t. been making 6 figures since I was 23 without a degree.

>>15089936
yeah but youre the minority dude. thats not an option for the vast majority of the people in the US

>>15089943
Anybody could have got my job as long as they passed a drug test.

Amazingly, most people can't...

>>15089945
sure.... 6 figure job that doesnt require any skillset and has unlimited open positions nationwide.

>>15089958
Not unlimited, but it is certainly nationwide and no previous skill set is required.
>Brotip: people that work for the railroads are mostly overpaid fucking morons that couldn't hold a job as a wal-mart greeter.

>>15089943
I don't know about 6 figures, but you can make pretty decent money in most labor unions, like carpenters, plumbers, steamfitters, etc. It's not the most easy work, but they'll usually hire any retard who can pass their application test and do well in the interview.

>>15088877
>Vostok komandirskie
>Rolex submariner

The only Watch you need

>>15085140
I need to restrap my silver '92 Tissot Seastar. What strap woulld you guys recommend?

>>15090024
I should probably add some more details. It's an A665/765K.

>>15089390
Are you? Tell me what you would consider "good" in all those categories and why?

>>15089366
>average disposable income in the US puts it at just over 3k per month.
lmao imagine thinking this

>>15085140
Fucking awesome choice. Mine's still rrunning strongg.

>no shit my pic is fucking related.

>>15085171
Vostok is a meme. Anyeone who buys one for real gets disappointed they ddind't get a seiko isntead.

>>15085406
Still don't understand the appeal...I hate the second hand and the colour scheme, especially when lumed. Even in person they're forgettable. Coole engineering though.

>>15085954
None; use your phone and make sur eit's linked with an atomic clock that re-syncs every hour. Watches as a function are obsolete.

>>15086165
Have faithe anon...if it's done right, it's worth the time.

>>15086215
It gets good reviews; the problem is that if you save for longer, you can afford something better...und so weiter.

>>15086327
>>15086330
It's a strange time, no doubt. Best hold for a moment. Regarding investments; when the market regains (and it is guaranteed to when life begins going back to normal), you'll get back your investments. I was about to buy new tires...now I'll wait. A watch can DEFINITELY wait.

>>15086439
They make one of the only Fliegers I'd like to buy that is an 'authentic' original manufacturer...but since it's a 2824 it doesn't really matter these days, does it? They're fine.

>>15086571
No need to explain. Just sent it to Omega. Though horror stories abound, my Semenmaster came back fucking awesome.

>>15086739
Awesome stuff; thanks for posting!

>>15086993
Depends on the watchmaker. Mine's a champ, but he's old. If he retires, I don't know what I'll do.

>>15087129
I've always wanted a Cosmonaute. The only 24 hour dial watch I think looks awesome, and it 'looks' like a pilot's watch. But I want the original one, not the new ones...they look strange. In general though, Breitling is fine...their movements are either in house or generic Swiss, so no problems. Their emergency beacon watch is cool; apparently it's actually saved people's lives before. As for the aesthetic, I only like their watches with the sliderule..

>>15087138
Why would you get a datejust? Why not a day-date? If you're going ornate, go full way. The modern day-date looks fucking awesome on the wrist, espeically in gold.

>>15087142
I dislike the aesthetic of the hands and face. Never a fan of the square diamond config. Also, no matter what anyone tells you, Tudor is the cheap Rolex. It'll always be perceived in that manner, so why fall into it? Save for another year and get a sea-dweller.

>>15087181
Depends on who's here. Sometimes it's fun (like those awesome anons who collect seriously), sometimes it's dead. Such is life. I haven't been here for a long time, but now that I'm off work I can get drunka gain...

>>15087274
It can be a variety of factors. For me, I love watches based on what experiences I've had with them. Maybe you've had good experiences with this vintage quartz.

>>15087330
Positioning is everything. I can keep my pocket watch dead on now taht I know what it does. For a movement from around 1911, it's doing just fine.
>pic related.

>>15087884
Easy anon. Omega was the first to develope a deep sea diver where you could operate the pushers at depth; the first iteration of the seamaster chronograph from the 1996 era, the precurser to the planet ocean chronographs and the one you see in >>15087865. You're also mistaken about the screw down pushers; they're screw down so you don't accidentally knock or damage them if they're not in use. Omega doesn't have screw down pushers at all; Rolex cosmographs do, but Omegas are permanantly screwed down(up), so they're always functional.

>>15087921
Generic? but if you like it, no probm.

>>15088892
If you like the design, why not? It's a rolex.

>>15089184
Never really liked it. Very generic case, and the face looks moonface.

Fuck, it's quiet here tonight.

>>15090153
>Vostok is a meme. Anyeone who buys one for real gets disappointed they ddind't get a seiko isntead.
You aren't wrong but I do think that the wobbly crown and hilariously Russian loose tolerances have something charming and novel about them

>>15089262
No, but chink flu is fucking everything up. With my luck there will be rioting and some nigger will smash and grab it at the watchmakers place

>>15086683
what? shut up

>>15090208
I can agre ewith you, but the problem is that Anons aren't told about the wobbly crown and loose tolerances up front at all; it's a surprise on delivery, and then they get accustomed to it because it's 'their' watch and they grow fond of it. You see the same thing with anything from cars to pianos. People find a humane charm in a technological device because imperfection is such a mirror of humanity that they accept the flaw because it's like accepting a person or someone else (by extentsion accepting themselves).

I would never acept it because I've never bought a flawed watch, so if I did buy one I'd be pissed off. A mechanical watch is a piece of engineering; why waste money on something that should be reasonably fine out of the box? Semes like such a waste.

>tl;dr I undersatnd the feeling...I don't share it however because reasons.

>>15090220
>I would never acept it because I've never bought a flawed watch
:thinking_face_emoji.png:

>>15090220
>People find a humane charm in a technological device because imperfection is such a mirror of humanity that they accept the flaw because it's like accepting a person or someone else (by extentsion accepting themselves).
Have you seen the watch snob endpoint of this where they whine about Grand Seikos because they're "too perfect?"

>>15090226
Have you?

>>15090231
Yes, it's inevitable. The assumption is that mechanical perfection removes humanity from things, and while you can argue that from an artistic standpoint (i.e. human created artforms like music, dance, painting, etc.) it is utterly useless when it's dealing with a mechanism that does something practical.

While I respect grand seikos, I hate their aesthetic design line, and like Zenith they will never appeal to me no matter how beautiful their finishing is. But watch snobs still don't understand that their opinions are actually valueless for the majority of the population and utterly wasteful to other watch snobs who think they're the only ones who are right. That's why I don't listen to them about aesthetic opinions...their lives exist in an ever closing circle of people who are likeminded in the strategy but combatative necessarily raison d'etre. They have no joy, and when they think they've found it someone else tears them down on just as easily quicksand as the target.

>you guys know what I mean.

>>15090245
You mean like when you had an existential crisis because you temporarily didn't like watches anymore?

>>15090245
Grand Seiko is hit or miss for me. I live near a boutique that carries GS so I've been lucky enough to try some on and look at them in real life. They really are more impressive IRL and I like how they take design cues from nature but there's often something off in terms of design. Like the first generations of the Snowflake had Seiko 3 TIMES on the dial which triggered my autism and the proportions were too big and sporty. I do want to own one because their signature heavily faceted hands are like nothing else in the industry, the Spring Drive is beautiful and functional, etc. but I'm holding out for the perfect one and none of them are clicking like that for me.

>>15090249
SHit, you remember that? Yes, but I solved it.
I no longer feel the need to buy shit. I've got what I want. I still feel the siren song once ina while, but it lasts buta n hour or two, and then it's gone. So much can be gained in life by bettering oneself, in terms of thinking and physical ability. That improvement can't be taxed or taken away from me. I still like watches, but for now I feel like I've got all I need. (though at times I've thought about getting that damned Seagull Tourbillon for 1g....cheapest fucking tourbillon on the planet.

How are you Anon? you have the advantage....what do you collect/what's the mos t recent in your stable?

>>15090252
I've seen them in person several times and tried them on (there's a boutique in my city), but it doesn't sing to me the way that other watches do when on the rist. When I tried on the Rolex Day-Date it was a perfect match. Perhaps one day. When I tried on the Speedy, a perfect match. I tried on a GS, quite a nunber, and they all were dead inside...so I moved on. Like Oris, or Cartier, or even the JLC Reverso, sometimes a watch looks good on paper or on film but looks terrible on my wrist or to my eyes. That's life, and we move on.

>>15090262
Of course I remember.

No, it's not by a long shot. I got this tourbillon for $120.

>>15090262
When I saw the Spring Drive it spoke to me. The way it moves the hand across the dial is like water flowing out of a vase, and the way it works combining the best of mechanical and quartz is amazing to me. But I haven't seen a watch from them that calls out to me like the movement inside it.
A friend of mine has a Day/Date in platinum and I love how substantial it is, all memes aside it feels like an expensive watch and its got this baroque styling without being too ostentatious. But I don't like cyclopses. It's a personal dealbreaker.

>>15090199
What in your opinion is the best cheap quartz analog movements/watches

Something you can really beat up without fear of breaking and if it does break, not a big loss for the wallet.

>>15090274
not him but I like the citizen promaster diver. it's solar and quartz so you never have to give a shit, looks different without being "wtf" like some citizens, it's a diver so you don't have to worry about water, and it's got a good functional bezel which is easy to use and something you will actually use. only weird thing about it is that the bezel is 60 click not 120 but you get used to it. all this for less than 200 dollars.

>>15090270
LOL! Jesus....lol That's a fucking monstrosity! lol lol It's like the Italian lady's 'restoration' of the Christ...lol I'm sorry...lol didn't know that existed. Is it a Chinese movement as well?

>pic relatd

>>15090272
I agree; the movement is fucking amazing, that's absolutely not in denial. I love the combination of mechanical and electric that keeps the wholt hing working. The problem is the style to my eyes. But that's life. The day/date is awesome. The cyclopses...you get used to them and they're actually useful as you get older (and we all get older).

>>15090274
Honestly? One of those Casio digital things that we used to get as kids. If you go analog, then perhaps something like >>15090281 suggested. I recently got a watch I was lusting after since I was a kid...the Citizen Nighthawk. Had to get it from fucking Japan because they've stopped meaking the configuration that I always wanted. Point is, I can wear it on roller coasters and use it as a 'beater' which I'd never do with my Omega or other watches. Similarly, it has 200m water resistence, so why not.

Problem is really, you want a beater that is quartz analog that looks good but doesn't break the bank. Have you thought about Citizen?

>>15090274
Citizen or Seiko will be fine; just shop around and try them on. Here's the nighthawk. It's a more expensive option, to be fair, but it's what I wanted. If I were going for cheaper, there are always options with Seiko or Citizen, and with eiether company you can't go wrong.

>>15090287
Yes, it's a seagull. Here's the most recent thing I got as per your question.

>>15090297
HEY! I saw you post that a few months ago...or am I remembering poorly? You're the Anon who collects observatory chronometers, right? Fucking awesome collection you have....and a very serious focus. How's it running?

>pic for >>15090274 just because.

>>15090287
>LOL!
>Jesus... Lol
>lol lol
>lol I'm sorry
>lol didn't know

lol

>>15090305
Tell me that doesn't look like the fucking restoration? Lol I can't unsee that...

>>15090306
To me it looks like the watch is making the onions face

>>15090303
No, you didn't, yes, I am, it's running decent enough, not perfect but not horrible. Amplitude is low as in all GP 30/31/32 calibers.
>>15087675

>>15090310
Hmm...well, are you going to take it to your watchmaker, or is it something that can't be fixed? Sorry...too drunk to read your anal ysis seriously as postedabove.

You're a nice anon...what's the next one you're looking for (or have you completed the collection like me?) (25/25 observatory chronometers achieved!)

HOpe you're staying healthy anon. Safe and sound here, so far anyway.

>>15090313
There are three observatory chronometers. I own one.

My collection is lovely but certainly incomplete

>>15090317
HEY!!! YOu've got the water you watch!!!
Fucking awesome! Do you still wear it in the rotation? Fuck...still the most awesome and unique thing I've ever fucking seen.

Well, if the collection is 'incomplete', it means youcan have fun searching for the missing compononets. One day I might have to ask you your advice about Accutrons....dunno why, but I've always wanted one. Just as a different thing to what I've got. One day though, not today (the info would be lost on em right now).

Aw man....

>>15090324
go home anon you're drunk

>>15090333
Yo'ure new...don't worry, it's not your fault.

>>15090317
Sauce on the chink lange?

>>15090317
FMD

>>15090324
>>15090336
That is one ugly watch

>>15090344
Your viewpoints on aesthetics, proportion, and texture need re-evaluating, Anon. You're objectively wrong and I know I'm rigght.

>as I said, it's not your fault...

>>15090347
I'm a different guy than the one before. The watch face is unpleasant to look at, the hand length is poorly thought out, the lettering is dull.

>>15090342
what

>>15090360
Okay. You're still objectively wrong. If you need a comparison base, check out Glasshute original...then you'll understand why Lange gets it right. Then factor in the mother-of-pearl dial and engraving and shit...well....what can one say. You'll see my point in a few hours..days...years.

>have another odd watch.

Lange is pure quality. How can Swiss even compete?

>>15090370
Let's be fair Anon; Lange have their faults like any other company. The swiss mystique has been lost for a while since the Chinese have been able to compete, and if one does historical research then it becomes how obvious the propaganda machine from the valleys is.

Every company has problems and advantages, some more than others on either side. Lange is by far the best of the German manufact. But the swiss are not indestructible...their reputation is though at the moment. Like buying diamonds for a woman for an engagement; even though it's robbery, no woman will be happy without it because of the societal indoctrination and the social pressure from those around her who are stupid.

>>15090373
There are a number of german watchmakers I would be willing to put up against Lange. Urban Jurgensen comes to mind for instance with their recent chronometer escapement watch.

>>15090317
Whats the watch on the 5th row, 4th column?

>>15090386
I could agree with you on that, but what makes Lange win in my book is the infrastructure and numbers they produce over with an exceptional quality across the board. Even if you get a basic Saxonia or Lange 1, it's still excellent, no matter what. Obviously we could go further than that (F.P. Journe, etc.) but for mass production Lange is the top of the German line.

>>15090400
FP Journe watches are hideous though. The Chrono Bleu is nice, everything else is a mess

>>15090400
Fuck...where did everyone go all of a sudden?

>>15090423
I find his watches to be dependent on his requirements...sometimes they're 'interesting', sometimes they're slightly off. Can't argue with the construction or detailing....but overall aesthetic is definitely somewhat acquired.

>>15090425
I had nothing interesting left to say so stopped posting.

>>15090427
Oh...sorry...it was like old times for a moment, when everyone would go to sleep. Nice to know that in an uncertain world such as this, some things never change.

Guys I really hate integrated bracelets

>>15090444
Why? It can look good on the right watch.

>>15090449
It's a huge limitation for only slight gain

>>15090458
Explain. What limitation is there?

>>15090463
You can't switch it to a strap, obviously.

>>15090473
Of course you can...all higher quality watches can be switched out. C'mon Anon...have you ever watched?

>even Rolex makes this monstrosity...

>>15090463
You can't change out the bracelet unless the company offers a strap at inflated price. And if you don't like their strap option you're fucked. I saw Hodinkee wrote an article about the AL&S Odysseus. Great watch, clunky looking bracelet. It's integrated so you're shit out of luck if you don't like it

>>15090475
do you not know what an integrated bracelet is?

>>15090477
The Langes are an exception to the rule though; most integrated bracelets can simply be removed at the springbar point and you just put in leather bands of your choosing.

Go for Hersch if you're on the open market; word around the block is that they supply Omega, Panerai, and others, though us normies aren't supposed to know this.

>pic is my Semenmaster on a Hirsch Sharkskin Leonardo...they haven't made these in decades...

>>15090483
>>15090480

>>15090483
I will not make fun of you, but look up what integrated bracelets are

>>15090480
I do, but your question makes no sense. No watch is made without disconnection points to the watch head. Watchmakers have to disconnect the watch head in order to work on it...all watches have it.

>>15090493
No, you can buy all means make fun of me...I make fun of others. But does there exist a modern watch (that isn't a Timex Ironman with rubber integrated strap) that doesn't have the normal springbar attachment? Have I missed something?

>even pic related has them...

>>15090444
>>15090480
>>15090493
Sorry, a fair point. I was thinking of the style, not the actual implementation (i.e Royal Oak). As pre-millenials used to say, 'my bad'.

Disregard everything I was saying a moment ago. I too think they're useless.

>>15090499
I see, so you don't know what an integrated bracelet is.

>>15090506
Correct; I had to look the fucking thing up. everyone gets old...

>>15090506
Do you like integrated bracelets Anon? Do you see any benefit aside from the aesthetic vector?

>>15090514
new nuggets integrated bracelets suck ass and I think they're aesthetically cheesy too

>>15090519
Well, that solves that.

ID on the one on the right, anyone?

>>15090400
>Obviously we could go further than that (F.P. Journe, etc.)
Lange has better movement finishing for instance than FP Journe typically.

>>15090391
Looks like an omega megasonic

>>15090508
Out of curiosity, what did you think he meant by integrated? OEM?

>>15089773
>having any Invicta except the 8926ob
Yeah, had it coming didn't you.

Got a Orient Star, self-winding, yesterday. Wanted more formal watch with a leather band.

>>15090740
Smith & Wesson branded tritium watch. S&W has a lot of branded products besides guns, but most of them are suspiciously cheap. Think fashion watch without a huge markup.

>>15091473
Many thanks! I'm loving the black&white + full numbers dial. Very legible.

>>15087332
disgusting

>>15091297
Rundown on orient, why would I take one over a Seiko?

>>15092084
Orient is kind of cool. They are owned by Seiko but use their own in house movements and manufacturing. If you are into horology and the manufacturing aspect they do more of their own work than anything that all but a few if the very top swiss companies and for way less money. With how expensive Seiko is getting they are generally a much better value.

>>15092084
Orient uses their own in house movements and manufacturing. Seiko is rapidly becoming a much worse value for the money while orient is offering some very decent watches for good prices.

>>15092084
Because you get more value. Their movements are just as good, if not better because they tend to be better regulated from the factory. The quality of watches is the same as Seiko for less money. For instance the Kamasu is a cheap diver for 300 that has a sapphire crystal while Seiko is still charging 300 for fucking h a r d l e x

>>15089093
>people who own rolex sound like the biggest fags on earth
Yes.

Just got this today and honestly I'm pretty impressed with the look and feel for only 500.

>>15092297
These things are such a ripoff. Literally Parnis Chinese case with a Swiss ETA jammed inside and then you pay 370 additional dollars for meme branding. And for what? Essentially, a fake Rolex.

>>15092300
Can't speak too much on the Parnis thing, since I've never held one. Fake Rolex was pretty much what I'm going for with this. My plan for the watch is to remove the bezel and put it on a lizard skin strap to mimic the look of Marlon Brando's 1675.

>>15092325
If that's what you want it for, I applaud you.

>>15092325
Don't forget to carve your name into the back of it yourself to take the bit all the way

>>15092297
>>15092300
>>15092325
>real Rolex GMT Master is 12-18k depending on bezel color
is this company fucking serious?

>>15092356
Only thing I'm probably not going to do because of the caseback, but that would be pretty cool.

>>15092376
Carve it on the seahorse. Come on man you need to take it all the way.

>>15092378
I'll consider it. The seahorse definitely would be the place to put it.

>>15087142
Go with the Tudor

>>15087865
Cute

>>15089981
can confirm.
t. Teamster

>>15089966
CSX faggot detected. Waycross born and raised here and know several people that went to work for the company after high school.