/fa/ - Fashion

>>15035967
Rate my shitter

>>15035970
Fucking classy my man, would wear

>>15035970
>when you cant use a watch to tell time

>>15035987
>seconds hand on a dress watch

>>15035967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo6Sxx6BgGo

Imagine being a loser who buys watches like this holy shit.

https://youtu.be/03z7giqtjrY?t=150
https://youtu.be/03z7giqtjrY?t=368
https://youtu.be/03z7giqtjrY?t=520

Rolex really has shit attention to detail on the entry level lineup nowadays, guess there's no point in buying anything that's not at least mid-tier anymore.

>>15035967
You have very a very specific taste in digital watches. You interested in the new calculator wath colorways?

>>15035523
>$100 haircut
>What the fuck
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m5qXMrAd_G4

>>15036022
Don't really see the appeal of these over a five digit DJ, personally.

i posted earlier about my watch delaying a bit but ive noticed that it only happens when im not wearing it
explain this to me like im 5
i thought this didnt happen with quartz watches?

>>15036051
It's dirty or needs oil or your gay and it spins faster when it's near fags.

>>15036051
Quartz crystals vary slightly in their vibration frequency depending on the temperature they are at, causing them to run at a different rate when worn vs. when not worn. There are quartz movements with built in corrections for this temperature variation, but they are expensive enough to only be found in higher-end quartz models.

>>15036023
Why does CASIO keep making watches with negative displays? I guess people buy them? They look like shit.

>>15036051
Cheap quartz with no thermocompensation, so temperature affects its timekeeping. That and it may need a service or regulation.

What watches with the 2892 are actually worth it?

>>15036051
>>15036063
I've got a solar (miyota) quartz shitter that gains 0.5s/d when on the table and 0.2s/d when worn during the day. Nothing significant, and I suspect thermocorrecting movements wouldn't get you an extra digit of accuracy.

>>15036041
The lugs on older models have a more interesting finish & more proportionate to be honest. At least rolex still does the old style of lug finishing on the tudors.

>>15036089
>suspect thermocorrecting movements wouldn't get you an extra digit of accuracy.
Thermocompensated quartz movements regularly achieve +/- 10 seconds per year accuracy. Some achieve 5 SPY and the Citizen 0100 achieve 1 SPY. They aren't cheap though.

>>15036041
The dial on that is pure sex. Too bad the cyclops ruins it.

>>15036085
Pre co-axial Seamaster 300m.

>>15036095
I still can't believe how beautiful this looks compared to anything but vintage Sub, such a shame it's a "couldn't afford a Rolex?" watch.

How do I know if my automatic is fully wound? Or when to stop winding. If I turn the crown it just keeps spinning and does this metallic rustling but the firmness/sound never seem to change. I does work fine though.

>>15036121
>such a shame it's a "couldn't afford a Rolex?" watch.
Just stop caring about idiots who would unironically say that sort of shit. Personally even if a submariner was the same price as the bb58 I'd still take the 58 over it.

So I'm looking at vintage watches under 100 euros and I find this
>same dial
>same date (SUN 7, maybe a convention like 10:10?)
>same country (India)
>same movement from what I can tell
but
>different cases with different writing formats in the back

Is this common or am I getting bamboozled?
Are fake/Frankenstein 50$ watches a thing?

>>15036159
>Are fake/Frankenstein 50$ watches a thing?
Yes

>>15036123
Refer to the owners manual how many turns of the crown your model needs. 30 should be enough, some would go 50 or 60. Safe to say, you cannot overwind an auto.

Best pilot's watch under $2,000? I prefer the aesthetics of a more classic flieger like a stowa or laco but I like the anti magnetism of a damsko or a picrel as it harkens back to the mark XI

>>15036180
Well shit, I guess I'll buy a watch with a rusty dial then.

>>15036159
>>same country (India)
Don't bother with poo-in-loo watches. It's inevitably going to be a franken.

>>15036189
Bot have supposedly terrible customer service and will never own up to creating a faulty product, it is always the customers fault and half the time they dont even fix the issue.
...supposedly.

I’ve read the stickies and I’m somewhat poorfag just wanting to ask what I should get for a beater watch in a shithole city? Should I consider a digital?

I only own three watches rn, SEIKO SARB035, SARD007 and a Vostok Europe Almaz lol. I know these are beaters for some people and they are cheap for some people but I don’t consider them as that.

>>15036183
I see. There's a lot of online sources saying that using the manual winding features can damage the movement so I was worried.

Real poorfag here.
The watch I wore recently and that I like quite a bit was a Skagen Unisex Hybrid Smartwatch (pic related). It's served me well, but I'm looking for a new watch. I really like the aesthetics of the Seagull 1963, but I don't care for automatic watches, any movement is fine for me as long as it works, so it can be a cheap(ish) one as well. This most likely means quartz. So what I'm looking for is a cheap watch with the design similar to the Seagull but cheaper and, more importantly, little maintenance. Buy, wear and forget.

Any idea where I'd look for something like that? Or terms for the layout? I'm new to this whole thing. Or is there like some database with a lot of watches where I can filter out what I don't want to narrow it down?

>>15036206
What a bunch of shit. You know how long you would have to flap your arm around to wind it fully? Just dont wind it like an ape on meth and dont bend the crown stem. g2g

>>15036204
The entire point of a beater is that you don't care if it gets beaten to shit and breaks. You just buy a new one.

If you honestly think those three watches aren't cheap enough then you really are looking at utter trash like a F91W

>>15036211
Why not get a normal skagen quartz, then?
Dan Henry makes a semi-quartz chronograph with a layout like the 1963.

>>15036221
pic rel has the same meca-quartz movement like the dan henry I mentioned, although the dial may feel a bit more cluttered

What about marathon? WW194003 nice watch?

>>15035231
the 36mm casio efv-110d that came out in autumn 2019

Extremely good steel build quality for price of something stupid I think like 60usd

>>15036051
A common skin temperature for your watch, for most adults, will be around 32C, depending on the weather and if you're wearing long sleeves. A common ambient temperature could be as low as 20C or less. Standard unthermocompensated quartz watches have a quadratic response curve to temperature, with the rate varying by about -1spy/C^2. If the reference point for the crystal is skin temperature, which is common, temperature variance alone would be about half a second per day.

>>15036250
also they come in 40mm, and blue/white dials

>>15036221
The skagen quartz' look a bit boring to me.
Did you mean the Dan Henry 1964 or 1963? Either way, they look nice but just don't seem to scratch the same itch. Much closer to the one you posted in >>15036230 though, that's indeed too cluttered for me.

Do you just kinda know those or how would you find them?
I'm asking because I absolutely would search by myself but I don't know where or how. Going to random manufacturers pages seems like I'd never find what I'm looking for.

>>15036246
I just got the GSAR medium. It’s a great looking watch, but seems to be running a bit slow out of the box for some reason. Overall, I like it a lot, though.

>>15036319
Fuck, forgot pic

>>15036322
I wish real watches looked this good, I really like the military/tool aesthetic.

>>15036275
I knew of those beforehand. I hear you on the skagen.
Lots of pictures and different models here, beware, hundreds of watches from different time periods, some have been recreated in modern styles, materials, techniques and movements. I probably wouldnt go vintage with your wear-and-forget choice. Quartz seems like just the thing for you, if you get a titanium case, you wont even feel you are wearing the watch most of the time.
>https://www.timeline.watch/?year_filter=1900
Other than that, it is really hard to tell you where to even begin. I would suggest looking for titanium quartz watches. Dont get memed, titaniums alloys arent THAT expensive and if you really look around, you can get a Casio or Citizen in titanium, with automatic adjustment via radio waves for max precision and minimum adjustment hassle, again, it being your main deal.

>>15036334
>I probably wouldnt go vintage with your wear-and-forget choice
That makes sense. Vintage needs upkeep and I'm not the person for that.

>Other than that, it is really hard to tell you where to even begin. I would suggest looking for titanium quartz watches. Dont get memed, titaniums alloys arent THAT expensive and if you really look around, you can get a Casio or Citizen in titanium, with automatic adjustment via radio waves for max precision and minimum adjustment hassle, again, it being your main deal.

Thanks for the help so far. timeline.watch seems like a great site to look a bit. I'll look for titanium quartz watches, at least that narrows it down.

Okay, I'll bite.

>>15036332
Pretty sure that watch is real.

>>15036200
Source for that about Damasko? Really dissapointing if true.

>>15036250
Is there really a 36mm version? What's the model number? I can't find it.

>>15036343
In terms of affordable and indestructible you're probably looking at a citizen eco drive or a casio "tough movement". A casio lineage will be bulletproof but maybe a bit too utilitarian looking, eco drives come in a million styles. Both <$200

>>15036383
post tits

>>15035967
Audemars Piguet

>>15036407
Eco drive seems to have some decent looking ones, thanks for pointing that out

>>15036411
But I'm a boy, anon.

>>15036383
You should bite a samich.

>>15036383
Must be nice to be so rich to get a Rollie for grade school graduation.

>>15036441
I'm 25, 5'10 135 pounds, anon.

>>15036450
Nice try, I know a skeleton when I see one. Now move that ugly watch behind your wristbone and wear it normally you fucking ghoul

>>15035970
damn son

>>15036461
Okay, forensic anthropologist anon. I will continue wearing it above my ulna.

>>15036473
It's a matter of a shitty (faux leather as you can see) strap. I'm changing it for a gold brown calfskin Hirsch.

So many normies like this

>>15036383
Are you joking? This could hardly look worse.

>>15036495
>that hand
Based bloatlord!

>>15036495
Are you on dialysis?

>>15036513
I like it and can pull it off quite easily.

>>15036526
>>15036531
Huh I guess they are fat hands. This fluorescent light doesn't do them any more good either.

what watch is he wearing, /fa/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=UPMPye2gg3o&feature=emb_title

>>15036322
Looks goofy on your girly wrist.

>>15035967
>CASIO GANG
ok """""Casio Gang""""", is the Oceanus really worth $400? it's a fucking quartz

>>15036614
Imagine actually thinking like this

So, how much did i overpay?

The red boi is for work, replacing the f91w I managed to break. I also need to get a new strap for the Vostok (lizard or croc, perhaps) and contact some timex Wizard about fixing the busted hunchback timex. Yeah it’s stupid putting so much into some old themed timex, but it’s got an animated second hand mang.

>>15036647
>lizard or croc
>for Vostok
Please, having a strap worth more than the watch is ridiculous

>>15036614
It's actually a great value. The case and bracelet are a special extra durable titanium alloy and are made by the same sub-division of Seiko that does the basic finishing on cases and bracelets for Grand Seiko (minus the zaratsu polishing).

The movement is a Casio tough movement which means it is designed to not be damaged by severe shocks and to automatically check and correct any misalignment between the hands and indices.

It also has radio atomic sync and a world time fuction that means you should basically never have to manually set it.

Really I don't know how much more you could want in an every day sports watch on a bracelet for the price. Only downsides are the proprietary lugs and the blue trim on the indices on the dial (which some complain doesn't look as classy as silver would).

Okay /fa/gs, I have a 7.5"-8" wrist and I'm looking for another daily beater to rotate with this one, and also a dress watch. I was looking at a citizen eco drive AT8113-04H for accuracy. Is there anything similar that I can use a black or brown band on? I feel like black leather would look wrong with this face.

Also anon told me that 43mm was bigger than traditional dress style so what should I be looking for?

>>15036189
Sinn and Damasko have case hardening, so I vote for theirs. Otherwise Seiko 5

>>15036673
It would be a cheap amazon one, to be fair. But it would end up the same price as the watch, point taken. The crazy gold brass with a brighter reptile would be primo sleazecore. I’m still thinking on it.

>>15036674
Actually there are lots of posts about the bracelet scratching anyway.

>>15036675
>I'm looking for another beater to wear in rotation with this beater
bro that's so fucking stupid the whole point of a beater is it is cheap shit that can handle tough crap so your good watches don't suffer in outdoor conditions

Keep that beater it is perfect and allows you to pour more money into dress watch.

Polerouter is my dress watch, back when it was for sale in the 50's it was priced alongside and competing directly with the rolex explorer. It's small and beautiful and suprisingly accurate, and it's microtor movement is unique and pretty.

>>15036703
It's still titanium, of course the bracelet is going to scratch. Titanium is a tradeoff of lower weight and enhanced toughness at the price of less scratch resistance vs. stainless steel.

>>15036706
By rotate in I meant a daily wear watch so preferably a self adjusting, but something nicer looking than the Garmin. This is currently my only watch and it can't be worn with a suit or really with a dress shirt for that matter.

>>15036706
What I'm trying to say is your choice of a dress watch should include vintage. I just don't think modern humans are very good designers compared to works of art produced in the last few decades

Dress watches can be old and fragile, because the context it is worn in is gentle, and it's just nice having a 70 year old machine ticking away on your wrist. It doesn't even need to be accurate.

And there is great pleasure to be had in hunting for that perfect specimen on ebay. These threads are brimming with anons who will genuinely help you if needed as long as you can filter through the shitposting.

>>15036706
>>15036717
how did you pay for the polerouter i have been looking for one in good condition for a while

>>15036732
I wouldn't reccomend it. Polerouter prices have jumped up very high in the last few years.

Use universal Geneve polerouter reference website (Google it) and use it to ensure the specimen is good. You want to ensure all parts are correct to the reference number on the caseback of each specimen. You also want to ensure that the dial is not refinished as most of the value of a polerouter is on the dial.

Mine was about $900 (if I prought it 5 years earlier it would have been about two thirds of that) and has plenty of flaws including some missing screws from the movement, an unoriginal crystal, and very poor condition case, but the dial and hands are in excellent condition, it is keeping excellent time and the power reserve is performing as it should. I'm not looking forward to the time when it will need servicing for the watch fucker to tell me how many more problems there are lol

>>15036745
this reference website is great thanks. i feel like by the time i find a reference i want in good condition the prices are going to be insane

>>15036629
Too bad there aren't any decent videos of that particular 0100 model. Hard to get a sense of that that dial looks like in person from pics.

why is it so cringe when he reviews $100 gold-plated shitters?

https://youtu.be/sjJjiEiTUTA

>>15036702
>It would be a cheap amazon one
Then it won't be croc nor lizard buddy. There's nothing worse than people wearing faux/embossed leathers. Either one can afford a genuine one or don't bother people.

>>15036777
>Why is it so cringe when a fake character made to maximize YouTube content creator and purchasing decision influencer revenue makes videos that are obviously inauthentic revenue generation devices?
Gee, I wonder.

>>15036636
please tell me anythibg about this shit i just bought

>>15036784
https://www.amazon.com/18mm-Black-Genuine-Lizard-Creations/dp/B074WDJ64L/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=genuine+lizard+watch+strap&qid=1582599685&sprefix=genuine+liza&sr=8-3
25 gets you lizard on the outside, mi amigo. I wouldn’t do stamped cow.

>>15036647
get a strap with Croc-grain calf, but proper leather

>>15036831
>>15036831
niice

thoughts on this watch? though honestly most features on it, i probably wouldnt even use

>>15036767
Gerald has a decent video of one. Mine is considerably more marbled and less washed out than his appears in the video though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7AY-1slpua/?igshid=1q8rop1b94e55

>>15036865
Thanks for the link, wouldn't have seen that one since it was on insta.

scubafag checking in

>>15035967
>fashion board
>Casio shit

These are my 4 favorites

>>15036674
where's the best place to buy an 'anus is you're in the US? would rather not use eBay

>>15036065
They look good in press release photos. Normans tend to fall for that.

Alpha Explorer with salmon dial

>>15037078
Just buy the real thing (used). Good zoo stumps click fix right on it.

>>15036928
Ive had bad luck with Vostoks, I only dive with my casio now. The g757 is my daily and I have a drawer full of shitters for work watches.

at which price point/tier of watches would you say you are just getting memed?

>>15037173
depends on your definition of getting meme'd.
for me if you buy a "fashion brand" watch

>>15037164
Is that the casio marlin divers watch? It looks really chunky in pics as a lot of diving watches are but here it does not look that much bigger than the vostok komandirskie which isn't all that big in itself.

I work a front of house job serving food, basic job but it's the only thing going at the moment where I live.
I would get a nice Citizen but worry it'd get damaged at work, so would a Casio Ediface be a nice workhorse?

>>15037193
>basic job but it's the only thing going at the moment where I live.

Why are you trying to somehow make excuses for doing some honest work? That's a negative pattern of thought.

Do you look at others doing similar work and look down on them for doing some basic job?

You are working, you are taking what is available. Why not, you know, be proud of that fact instead of trying to beat yourself down?

A casio is great, still think the price point is a little high for the type you're suggesting though.

>>15037173
Longines, tissot, rado, ball, certina, baume & mercier, frederique constant, junghans, oris, raymond weil, alpina, ebel, maurice lacroix, meistersinger, mondaine, sinn, movado, union glashutte. Basically anything over 1,000eur/swiss/dollars/pounds. Hamilton is meme tier if you spend over 1,000, but borderline ok under 600. Longines master skin diver is nearly ok, nearly. Probably the only watch that isnt a meme in that price range.

But usually the 1-2k bracket it's all memes for all brands. At the 2k-3k it's almost all memes, exceptions are used tudor/breitling/omega but doubt you will find much. 3k minimum is where you escape meme territory, ideally 4k. Everything over 4k is good depending on the brand. Everything under 500eur is not a meme, except fashion watches. Even microbrands are acceptable at that price.

Are the soviet era quartz Poljots any good? Any advixe for buying these on ebay?

>>15036022
Rolex doesn't really have any "detail".
Their watches are kind of crude to begin with (which makes them so easy to replicate), but they do execute the crudeness well.

>>15037198
based. breath of fresh air from the hostile guys in here

>>15037173
If you pay more than $500 for a watch you are paying for marketing basically.

All the top tier reps are under that price.

>>15037198
>Do you look at others doing similar work and look down on them for doing some basic job?
Yes? Why the fuck wouldn't you? This is all getting automated already, has been for years in some countries, it's literally poverty tier "work" that should be replaced with basic income.

>>15037293
Because you have no idea of peoples backgrounds and how they got there. By that logic, people doing a 5 x times better paid job than you can look down on you and you'll praise them for being so much greater?

If every billionaire better than you? Even if they inherited it?

if the "lowly worker" won the lotto tomorrow will your criticism turn to admiration?

I have more respect for some honest hard "bottom" worker than some little rich brat kid. Jobs, money, positions in life come and go and when you base your very existence on that it can be taken away in a second, when someone is genuinely a good person, that stays with them and can't be taken.

>>15035967
choose wisely

>>15037309
>By that logic, people doing a 5 x times better paid job than you can look down on you and you'll praise them for being so much greater?
Yes?
>If every billionaire better than you? Even if they inherited it?
Yes? Welcome to capitalism lmfao. There is only one way to measure someone's worth in this system, and it affects all other deprecated measurement systems.

>>15037330
Then I feel sorry you will discredit 99% of people and idolize attention seeking celebes with mental health issues and crippling low self esteem.

>There is only one way to measure someone's worth in this system,

Says you. I couldn't give a crap about some billionaire and I ain't gonna suck his balls when he's around me.

You are going to die bro, that's a guarantee. try living free in your life instead of hero worshipping people who have more coins than you.

>>15037323
I want 1, 2 and 5!

>>15037334
>I couldn't give a crap
And no one else could give a crap about your parallel value systems. Feel free to make a street poll and see who is in the majority.

>>15037343
Majority equates to correct?

Learn to live your life. Commodities that can be given and taken hold little inherent value as opposed to personality or intellectual traits which are a solid state of your being.

Life and existence is how I perceive it to be, it has no basis on the amount of numbers in a bank account.

Does that make life easier? Sure it does but that still does not make me better than those with less numbers.

You're a sheep in the system that has conditioned you to think in that way and are obviously very young.

>>15037349
>Majority equates to correct?
Yes, it's a democracy isn't it. Unless you go live in a cave, you're a part of this value system, and no amount of mental gymnastics will get you out of it.

>>15037235
This guy has a point. Most of those companies either have yuge factories and/or milk the "SWISS MADE" law to the max and sell chink made shit that some migrant put in a case in switzerland, then charge ridiculous money for it because brand name and swiss made quality meme. Same goes for a lot of "MADE IN GERMANY" brands that ride the wave of bygone eras (Stowa) while selling watches with basic movements in china-made cases with a several 100 markup on top of the cost of the parts and assembly, because they can (not blaming them, but it limits your options).
At least long jeans is trying (and failing) to bring back some of their historic pieces, most other companies churn out the same uninspired boring shit. Rado is especially criminal for charging 1200 for ceramics with quartz movements.
Like anon said, some microbrands are good indicator of how much separate watch parts and assembly with qc with a little markup can cost, and keep in mind the larger companies are buying the parts in much larger quantities, thus even lower prices, so higher markups which they then spend on advertising.

>>15037362
Democracy of vote and election is not the same as democracy of thought. Just because the majority believe in flying pigs tomorrow does not make it so.

There is no legal course of action nor law if someone richer than me thinks they are better and wants me to accept that.

You are given others misplaced and unjust power over you. Set yourself free.

the path blocker

>>15037368
>Just because the majority believe in flying pigs tomorrow does not make it so.
It does for all practical purposes, unless you act like you believe it, you will be rightfully shunned from society.
>There is no legal course of action nor law if someone richer than me thinks they are better and wants me to accept that.
Sure there isn't lol.
>You are given others misplaced and unjust power over you. Set yourself free.
They have it by virtue of being a societal majority, what can a single person do while still participating in said society? Nothing. Hence the cave.

>>15037388
>It does for all practical purposes, unless you act like you believe it, you will be rightfully shunned from society.

Do you realize this is the same as saying if everyone in society acts like a village idiot, you too will act like a village idiot? The conclusion is that's the idiots way of thinking.

>They have it by virtue of being a societal majority

It's not even based on wealth, some famous celeb with less wealth than another will be seen as having more power. The characteristic are ever changing and based on no real logic.

You are saying you respect some teen singer in which their parents paid for it all and used connections to get famous more than say some person working all hours to feed their kids because their partner got murdered and all because society tells you to?

Do you have a thinking brain of your own? It's all about what we personally respect as goals and power. I'll chase them to lead me to satisfaction rather than what society says.

Are you unable to apply that logic? Most people in positions of power are there because of personal negative issues too. Like Low self esteem, needing to be admired or even psychopathy and needing to control others. You are just feeling mental health issues.

Judges and politicians are well known to fit into those groups.

I have no such issues, I have no need to control others. I'd be happy in some cabin in the woods with a wife. That's all the power I ever need and when some rich person comes along and looks down on me or expects me to respect them, they hold zero power over me, I would just laugh at them. Their words mean nothing, even if society says they do because I hold ultimate power over my life, how I feel and who or what I give power to.

>>15037399
>>Do you realize this is the same as saying if everyone in society acts like a village idiot, you too will act like a village idiot?
Yes, of course. That's how society works. How old are you? You sound like an edgy teen who just had his first philosophy class in high school.

>>15037408
post your watches fags

>>15037408
You speak of democracy and then go against it by saying things can't change.

No, that's not how society works. Art least not a functioning society. That's how a communist dictatorship works in which everyone plays along outside but behind their door they are different and know they are just bullshitting outside.

>Hyperrealism: When Reality Becomes an Illusion

Meanwhile the West is built on freedom and being able to operate outside the group and change things without persecution.

Ask yourself this though, if you are so happy and hold any power yourself, why would you be so involved when I tell a guy to not downplay his work and his worth? What would make you feel the need to go on the attack?

You see, you hold no power, all you are doing is trying to bring others down to elevate yourself rather than actuality doing that without tearing others down. That's your grasp for power and it's not power at all, it's weakness.

>>15037442
Dude grow up.

>>15037448
Truth hurts? Attacking people you think are below you and saying you have to act like an idiot to fit into society. You are a teenager.

>>15037452
Nice strawman.

>Sinn 903:
the little numbers are all pad printed
(they're made up of layers of ink, look for tiny reflections)

>Breitling Navitimer:
numbers are stencilled
(only the red numbers are pad printed)

I'm pretty sure I vastly prefer actual pad printed numbers.

>>15037378
Whatever happened to these new age digitals from Seiko? I remember they marketed them as next big thing and then suddenly..nothing.

>>15037478
Wow, what's the one on the right? It looks amazing compared to the one on the left.

>>15037323
27

>>15037164
fucking love that seiko james bond watch

>>15037478
The Breitling in that pic has a lot more magnification, and just look at how cool those red markers are on the Breitling.
The ink stands tall and shiny.

All of the numbers on the Sinn are like that.

>>15037478
Here's a direct comparison.

You can clearly see how all the little numbers and markers on the Sinn (on the right) are actual dollops of ink while on the Navitimer they're stencilled.

What do you think of the seiko Spirit spbx071j1 ?
Is 200€ an okay price ?

>>15037580
Yeah the Breitling looks much better.

who are the best microbrands right now?

>>15037615
Homos

>>15037323
I’m not 12 nor a retard.

>>15037615
Maratac

>>15037590
>>15037496
Funny, the Breitling 1959 806 reissue (pic related) has the Sinn-style printed ink markers, and it is considered the best current Navitimer by far.
In fact, it's the only current Breitling that's selling for more than retail.

>>15037621
More Maratac
Real fucking tool watches for real fucking tools.
This thing is 39mm and it still looks like a beast.

>>15037622
Dann that's a serious case of short hands syndrome.

>>15037626
That's how the originals were.
Also, they make sense considering the positions of the actual markers.
The fat part of the syringe on the hour hand for instance stops just short of the hour indices.

>>15037622
That looks really bad. You can't have everything raised, it just looks cheap as fuck.

>>15037625
More Maratac. All titanium nh-35, titanium bracelet. $425

>>15037632
Fuck forgot the pic

>>15037630
lmao
Except pad printing with "everything raised" is how the most expensive watches in the world are made.

You're just trolololing yourself at this point.

>>15037639
That looks completely flat. And it also looks very uneven, like it's drawn on with a sharpie.

>>15037615
I like Nodus, Zelos, NTH, Helm, Borealis, Raven and all that stuff. It really depends on what you mean by "best".

>>15037644
>mom I'm trolling again!
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>15036849
Protreks are cool. You are right that you won't use most of them, but just like a chronograph you'll look for reasons to use it even when it doesn't matter.

Wearing my solid little Mirvaine shitter I got a while back for £3.00 on eBay from someone in Manchester. They still have a few in stock (for significantly more than I paid) for any other wristlets out there who want a mini-sub style watch to beat the shit out of: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163921481059

>>15037698
Very nice, I like smaller watches, hate big gaudy shit.

>>15037275
Except that none of the 'top tier' reps can withstand inspection with a loupe and they all have trash movements compared with the genuine article. If you actually care about manufacturing quality, there's no comparison between reps and the genuine article for brands that actually take quality seriously.

What do you guys thinks? Is it good enough?

>>15037478
This is because Breitling is a shameless pleb catching brand that does every aspect of manufacturing as cheaply as humanly possible so they have more money to spend on marketing with which they catch said plebs.

>>15037615
Halios I'd say. Their external finishing is good enough to stand out even from photographs, and microbrands are certainly not generally known for their attention to detial in those respects so it's impressive.

>>15037619
Nomos is not a microbrand

>>15037622
Stop wasting your time, your giving (You)s to a troll who thinks its funny to shill Breitling in these threads.

Can anyone id this one?

>>15037652
Tell me it doesn't look uneven and blotchy and with wonky lines and that the ink isn't spilling over especially in the corners retard. Do I need to circle it?

>>15036647
keep casio and give rest of these shitters to younger siblings.

>>15037734
Do you have autism? If so, what level of macro lens you use to look at your watches while you're wearing them?

>>15037771
>Do you have autism?
More like schizophrenia.

>>15037771
Not him.
You can't see that shit? All the lines have tons of uneven application. I always kek when the super ultra premium way of doing things looks worse than mass scale industrial production.

>>15037785
I can sort of see it on the date wheel but on the actual dial it looks reasonably decent at least on shitbox laptop. Either way when you're talking about microns of deviation you're probably not going to see it in person because your visual perception is going to error correct that shit anyways.

>>15037785
>Not him.
t. him

>I always kek when the super ultra premium way of doing things looks worse than mass scale industrial production.
The whole point of extreme luxury watches is manual labor, not industrial production.

>>15037795
You're as dumb as he is.

>>15037800
I'm dumb because I don't think microns of deviation in manual dial patterning is worth losing sleep over? I'm not planning on buying a Patek any time soon (even if I had the money), but the near invisible inconsistencies in line weighting on dial markers is certainly not one of the reasons why.

>>15037811
You're dumb for even halfway acknowledging his "point".

>>15037378
thats actually really cool, i want one. whats the gimmick on this though?

Just ordered one of these bad boys for $150 how did i do lads?

>>15037816
They are more expensive than I expected. It has a bunch of different fonts you can choose and atomic time and solar. That particular one has some little pictures of some anime character that it can display.

>>15037835
Seiko Spirit SBPA011

>>15037698
L O N D O N

>>15037835
jesus youre right, thats probably why it failed.

>>15037811
You're dumb for continuing to feed a troll (You)s

ID on this?

>>15037872
lol at that penisfart of a watch. Of course it was made by g*rmans.

>>15037887
Simply epic

How do we bully jenni into reviewing a vostok?

>>15037676
should i get it as a beater? i dont have one yet so im looking for one

>>15037902
Threaten to withhold intercourse.

>>15037408
Kek, you’re the edgy teen.

Babbys first vintage. Now I'll probably have to get it serviced since who knows the history

>>15037399
based and cabinpilled.

>>15037955
I feel like a zoomer (despite being almost 30) for not ever having given a fuck about Tag or Panerai or Frank Mueller etc. What is appealing to you about the Tag chrono you got over any other similarly priced vintage item from a different luxury company?

>>15037983
I just like the Heuer history(no Tag) with racing. All the great drivers were wearing Heuer. Even if it was just good marketing, it's fun to LARP sometimes. Plus they were part of the group to come out with the first automatic chronograph movement

>>15037983
I used to think Panerais were tasteless hunks of metal meant for meatheads like Sylvester Stallone, and then I woke up one day liking them. Idk wtf happened, but now I think they’re pretty handsome.

>>15037828
You did fine, however your watch seems to have a tumor.

>>15037235
Your rules are exempt for vintage watches, there you can find really good stuff for 1-2k - but only if you have a discerning eye.

>>15037729
Definitely a Patek. Looks like a Calatrava, probably from the 70s, but I can’t find a specific reference with that sort of pie-pan style raised dial.

>>15038011
>$88

Anyone else think straps just cheapen the look of a watch?

>>15038017
Same here anon. All of a sudden, some of them really look good to me

>>15038017
>>15038079
Also same. I’ve been looking at them a lot recently.

https://monochrome-watches.com/breitling-765-avi-1953-re-edition-co-pilot-introducing-price/

What do you think about this? It looks great to me but is it shit?

>>15037734
>>15037785
I see it too and those numbers look cheesy

>>15038084
>no display caseback
straight into the shitter, very aesthetic otherwise

>>15038108
>display caseback
Disgusting, absolute prole trash on anything but the most decorated movements.

>>15037187
I dont have a micrometer but the face of the watch is larger giving the illusion of a bigger watch but its thinner overall and fits my wrist pretty pretty comfy without looking large. plus it's a unibezel which makes the watch feel more premium. Overall for $50 it's a beautiful watch and if you dive the lum is great too, the only watch I dive with.

>>15038114
No display caseback = might as well get a fake.

>>15037537
It's only a 5000 and not a 5020 but I actually prefer the display though. I'd love to have the original sports100 strap but its impossible to find sadly.

>>15038081
>>15038079
>>15038017
based paneraibros
i really like the luminor and it's silly crown guard but can't wear anything that's ~50mm lug-to-lug

any of you actually try one on in-person yet?

>>15037330
What you own doesnt imply your worth, dumbass as price is not the same as somethings "worth". You have been kiked into a "made up money" fetish.

>>15038011
>Plus they were part of the group to come out with the first automatic chronograph movement
Nope. The first automatic chronograph movement on the market was the Seiko 613x.

>>15038156
Lol exactly, the guy is telling people if you find worth and value being with a wife and kids and being content, you are wrong and you must chase money, something that is just figures on a screen and doesn't even exist.

A complete and total zombie. The perfect product of his masters.

>>15038017
>>15038079
>>15038081
>>15038148
It's amazing getting to witness plebs being caught in the wild like this. Nature is amazing.

>>15038163
you don't know what "pleb" means

>recently bought a 50$ cartier rep after spending much more on gen mechanical stuff
>enjoy it just as much
so... was i just being an autist all these years? the important thing is that i'm enjoying it, right?

>>15038162
>if you find worth and value being with a wife and kids and being content
And you're doing all this while living in a hole eating your own shit and piss? Your kids are getting educated by reading animal entrails?

>>15038171
Money isnt even wealth, is a measure of your potential right to wealth as long as the society consensus stays as is (which i dont think will be the case for too long, due to economy planification and technology, maybe a century...?).

>>15038189
Ok now answer retard?

>>15038161
Depends which market

>>15037906
Depends on what you consider a beater, depending on the models they go from $80-$400. Also, most of them are bulky. The only modern ones you can get that are smaller are the prw-50 and 60.

>>15038193
I think everything on that OT has already been answered.

>>15038194
The first automatic chronograph movement that was available for sale to consumers anywhere in the world was the Seiko 613x. There are Seiko 6139s in the wild with January and February 1969 serial numbers, neither the Caliber 11 nor the El Primero were in series production, much less publicly available for sale anywhere, until several months after that.

>>15038084
I was almost going to roll my eyes at the rotating bezel being another dive watch rip-off, but the original is from the same year the first fifty fathoms/submariner were released.
wild

>>15038213
The calibre 11 was the first to the global market, those earlier 6139s were sold in Japan only. I agree that it's got the weakest claim to first out of the three but they were also the coolest looking

>>15038213
>>15038367

>>15038367
>those earlier 6139s were sold in Japan only
And? So? There were 6139s available for retail purchase somewhere on planet earth earlier than the Calibre 11, therefore the 6139 was first.

Making a distinction between 'on the market' and 'on the global market' is literally making up an arbitrary distinction solely to exclude Seiko because muh Switzerland.

>>15037698
is there an auto version?

>>15038125
I'd love a Duro but I feel like 44mm is too big for my wrist

>>15036647
you have less to fear from G-Shock fakes if you make the fakes yourself - Hideki Casio

Would you classify a watch like this as a mallcore shitter?

>>15038440
Yes.

>2020
>The watch industry scams have been unearthed countless of times
>dese nibbas still lusting over mechanical watches with """heritage""" and other bullshit
Fucking lmaoing at your lives

>>15038440
Yeah.

>>15038473
PREACH

>>15038378
What are you crusading for? I agree that the 6139 has a better claim to the title of first. I like seiko, I own one. I like the 6139 too and the pogue has the additional cool factor of first in space. I was just pointing out that "first on the market" has multiple meanings, don't be such an angry fanboy because someone dared challenge your favourite brand on semantics

>>15038492
It has nothing to do with liking or disliking any brand. It just bugs me that this subject is treated like a legitimate debate when one company unambiguously had an automatic chronograph available for retail sale several months before anyone else did. If it had been Zenith that was first to market by several months, I'd be making the exact same argument in their favour instead.

>>15037721
No? FMD

whats that anon? alone again on pancake night? pathetic

come join the fun

discord (dot) gg/8FsHM3

>>15038501
>If it had been Zenith that was first to market by several months, I'd be making the exact same argument in their favour instead.
The "muh Switzerland" comment implies you have a chip on your shoulder

>>15037632
>425 for an nh35
Somebody fell for the titanium>asspensive meme.
>>15037625
Im willing to bet those hands are not heat blued.

>>15037872
Thats quite a...yeah. A collection of styles.
>roman numerals for classicism and elegance
>arabic minute markers
>digital fucking date
>gold plated hands for classicism and elegance
>lumed because why not
>SS case, bead blasted because military rugged
>polished sides and lugs for elegance and style
>gold plated bezel outta fucking nowhere

The sheer levels of which the thing or the designers of it were confused of is mind boggling.
It is as those youtube comments
>what do you want in your watch senpai
>yes

I was thinking of an exorcist, but a Dresden bombing might be more more up its alley.

>>15038473
Grandpa always wore those. Always kept buying the same shit over and over again. Left behind 4 oxidized to shit pieces that would still run if you just changed the batteries.
On some level, Im starting to appreciate the less is more mentality.

>>15038597
>The "muh Switzerland" comment implies you have a chip on your shoulder
It's rather that I genuinely think there wouldn't be any serious debate about this subject if it had been the Calibre 11 or the El Primero that had been available for retail sale several months prior to the others. I think the efforts people make to come up with special criteria for what constitutes 'first on the market' on this subject are the product of motivated reasoning.

>>15037173
500$

>>15036647
I came across a blowout ebay sale and I’ve decided I’m going full 50s art deco asshole chic with the turquoise gater on the gold komandirskie
>>15037740
the Casio looks pretty fresh from the LEGO store itself. Which is exactly why I bought it.
>>15038423
gimme time. I’m going with a cheap first, more expensive when I get bored method and I’ve been eyeing those clear ones.
>>15038483
>>15038473
basado
>>15038125
>>15037955
>>15037828
>>15037625
>>15037164
nice

>>15037717
love it, that price seems high though

Bumping with some pics of a few of my watches.
>>15038386
Sadly not, but for the price of them, I'd get one anyway. There are older Mirvaine watches that have automatic movements if you look on eBay but they are much more expensive and look totally different.
>>15037704
Thanks Anon, me too. Anything bigger than 36mm looks like shit on my wrist anyway.
>>15037838
I'm a man, baby.

>>15038769

>>15038779

>>15038787

>>15038791

>>15038797
Small sidenote, anyone in /wt/ ever wear two watches? I just found this picture I took a few years back when I was going between the UK and Australia pretty frequently and had a reason to have to keep my eye on both timezones while travelling.

Can post a few more pictures of my other watches in a bit if anyone's interested in having a look.

good place to get a mesh strap? for my max bill

>>15036204
Get a Raketa. Like thirty bucks on Ebay. Most likely gonna be a frankenwatch, but they pumped them out by the tens of millions, and for thirty dollars who really cares? The 2609.HA is a robust little movement. Loud as fuck, but keeps good time and gets the job done.

hi guys, first post on these threads.

Poorfag rn and looking for a nice diver found this for like 20% off RRP and want a second opinion.

Am i retarded for being sold on quality of lume ?

>>15038642
Ok. But ID pls.

>>15038911
>Am i retarded for being sold on quality of lume ?
Yeah, kinda. The Seiko Turtle is a decent poorfag watch though, anon. They're kinda big though, so try one on first if you're ordering online (if you can)

>>15036966
Is that coke or pepsi? You're the guy who just got that coke right?

214270 goat

>>15037235
what about the sick 99% off deals on aliexpress? I can get a $4k watch for $150

>>15039069
Those are fakes. There are good fakes, mind you, but they can go for over $1000.

I am looking into buying a vintage omega seamaster. Probably from the 50s or 60s. Anything I should know or watch out for these? How’s the upkeep cost on them?

>>15037235
what makes those watch brands memes?

>>15038911
I think the turtles offer the best value for money out of any diver under the $1000 mark. There are a few problems however, one is the large size that needs a big wrist to pull off (6.7inch or higher imo) and there is also a problem with chapter ring alignment which can be solved by calling up whoever you are ordering from and asking them to send you the best aligned specimen they have.

And if you ever get tired of the look, give it a quick bezel insert mod, lcbi make fully lumed bezels. While uncleseiko and strapco offer fantastic rubber and steel bracelet options.

i would love an omega x-33 or breitling analog-digital but damn are they expensive. even used models are $$$ a f

>>15039112
read this
>>15037366

>>15039112
read this
>>15039150

>>15039128
>a big wrist to pull off
lug-to-lug is ~47mm. that will fit most people without hanging over

>>15039137
i really like the old versions of these. been considering buying one to use as a gym watch.

Reminder this is true

>>15039296
Lol. I can see why you would go homage for some things (currently looking at tuna cans on AliExpress) but a full fake with brand name and all? Yeah, no.

I accepted pic related as collateral for a $100 loan. Did I fuck up? Is the watch not even worth half that?

>>15039335
oh no

>>15039335
If it were real, it would be worth quite the penny. It is not, though. Look at other Cartier Tortues and compare them. Look at the crown and and the font.

isn't it illegal in the US to buy reps? they'll get seized by customs

>>15039335
Good luck trying to resell that for $100

>>15037323
1, 5 and 20.

>>15039357

Yeah but the feds aren't going to show up if they seize it or anything. Maybe send you a letter saying they took and it you shouldn't do that. Good rep dealers will have a guarantee to send another one if it's seized.

>>15036023
id on this?

>>15036246

The traser p59 series seems like a better value since you can get metal and automatic versions. Same shit with the tritium tubes. As much as they are charging for plastic seems like bullshit to me desu.

Can anyone tell me why lug to lug size is so rarely indicated when it's the main factor to know if a watch will fit?

Dial size can be deceiving.

>>15039447
so can lug-to-lug

>>15039357
It's illegal everywhere, in the EU the watch company sues you for quite a bit and you have to pay a fine or go to jail for importing it separately too.

>>15036065
>>15037059
They look good in person as well. And are pretty much as legible as positive ones

>>15039466
How would they know it is a rip off anyway with how the good fakes look nowdays. I mean they won't open it up to inspect the movement

any leaks for basel yet? or is even happening due to corona?

>>15039466
What about homages? As long as there is no brand name on it, I'm fine?

Fuck. I'm totally attracted to this shitter. Pls send help, or I have to order it, once Corona is over.

>>15039499

alibaba tier and I hope it's not more than 50 bucks

>>15039499

>>15039470
Are you literally retarded lmfao.

>>15039524
>alibaba tier
Of course.
> and I hope it's not more than 50 bucks
It's ~140. It would be 100% better without the huge logo.

>>15039541
That's a genuine question though

>>15039571
And you'll never get a genuine answer because they need to justify their overprices purchases.

Pro's need to inspect fake watches, no random person or even a friend is going to ask you to take the watch off and inspect it, people will just say "ok cool" or whatever.

There are fakes for next to nothing which will be dubious, but top end watches have fakes in the $200+ mark which are of reasonable quality.

If anyone doubts this, wear one in a short sleeved shirt, really show it off and hit the poor part of the city. I can bet you someone will have a try at taking it.

>>15039466
This is the most retarded post ITT. Importation of a fake watch won't land you in trouble.

>>15039571
It comes from China and the declared cost is $350. Unless you're prepared to declare the $25k costs for a fake Daytona and pay all the taxes and import duties for $25k of course.

Customs can confiscate anything for any reason btw, they don't have to open shit, why would they?

>>15039579
>When the authorities discover a large cache of copy watches they sometimes make a show of the consequences. In 2010, US Customs officials shot a video of their steamroller crushing 7,000 fake Rolex watches. The message is clear – the US will not tolerate infringement of intellectual property rights by counterfeiters. Along with the 7,000 watches it crushed, ICE discovered 24,000 more fake watches in Binh Cam Tran’s home along with enough parts to manufacture another million pieces. This seizure and arrest cost Mr. Tran $2.2 million in fines and restitution, as well as six years in prison.

>>15039585
Don't know if you guys are talking about the mass buying of fakes to sell, but some single guy purchasing 1 or 2 at worse will lead them to just taking it

>>15039589
Rolex specifically sues every single person that gets caught importing a fake watch, so "just taking it" only works for lesser brands that might not care.

>>15039591
Fear tactics. There are heaps of fakes around and not many people in jail for them.

>>15039591
https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Intellectual-Property/Denmark/Norsker-Co/Court-awards-compensation-and-damages-in-fake-Rolex-case

Here's a case from the EU for example.

>>15039595
There's many people getting murdered and not 100% of the murderers get in jail, maybe if you kill just one dude it will work out for you retard.

>>15039600
>he thinks he is using some kind of logic here

Oh dear.

>comparing murder to a fake watch

OH DEAR.

>>15039596
>>15039600
Scare tactics to let general population know its illegal. But realistically, no one is going to jail you for your shitty Rolex replica.

Its like torrenting- technically illegal but no one enforces it so might as well be legal.

>>15039609
It's likely that guy spent all his savings on a rolex and met someone with a fake that looked just as good and he's mad as hell about it. Or a rolex agent.

>>15039596
Interesting. But it again seems to assume that the buyer wanted to sell them on.
What would happen if you get caught with a single watch for your own personal use?

And if the watch does not have a logo, but just the case design, what'll happen then?

>Oh, I just liked this cool brandless diver, I didn't know that this is a fake of a "Rolex Submariner", never heard of that one
???

>>15039613
There’s definitely some (probably unpaid) Rolex shills in these threads. They come out of the woodwork when anyone says anything even remotely praising a Swatch brand.

>>15039615
Yeah not to mention how shit your country looks if they locked up in jail some 60 year old because they bought a fucking watch.

It would just highlight the legal system is there to protect the rich and multi million/billion dollar companies.

>>15039618
Ordering a swatch right now!

>>15039619
Most countries don't care how shit they look.
Case in point: The treatment of Assange right now.
So I wouldn't count on that.

>>15039615
Good luck explaining it in court I guess, not like Rolex has unlimited money to fuck you over for the next 30 years.

>>15039631
But will it even go to court?
Let's say I order this thing:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000008307569.html
(Can't find a submariner, so BlancPain has to do)
Now, obviously, it's a ripoff of the 50 fathoms, but the seller doesn't sell it as such. (though it's mentioned in the reviews)
What does customs do about such a thing?
And what if it is sold as 50 fathoms, as here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000512528548.html

>>15039499
They just came out with a Titanium version for a bit more. I would get that shit if it wasn't 44mm.

Beautiful

>been advertising and trying to sell my watch for 2 months
>couldn't find a buyer and had to sell to a watch store
>lost 30% of what I could have sold for
>ended up losing about $1k
I'm never going to flip a watch again, I'm only buying shit that I will keep

>>15039673
what watch

New bread

>>15039719
>>15039719
>>15039719

>>15039641
>Titanium
Link please!
Most other GIGA Design stuff on aliexpress is Atrocious.

>>15039412
Casio G-Shock GWX-5700CS-1JF with a Casio combi-bracelet put on it.

>>15039652
Well looks are not a problem.

Problem with 5KX watches is atrocious value they get you for roughly 300 bucks. For that kind of money I would pick something like turtle or samurai instead of this nu-seiko mallshitter.

>>15039010
>>15039128
Cheers for the replies lads, it should arrive in the morning.

I've researched all the common quality control issues but as it was the last in stock im praying for luck rn.

>>15038473
I would pay 100 bucks for a non plastic one that had an extra button so you can set the time backwards too

>>15036386
>Source for that about Damasko? Really dissapointing if true.
There's been a couple over the years. The freshest, most egregious event is documented on WUS's own damasko forum: rust on the case and bracelet and damasko taking over a year to, begrudgingly, do anything about it at all (first time they did nothing but claimed they did). They whinged the whole time that it wasn't rust or its not their problem or its not a manufacturing fault or some other fucking bullshit when it so clearly was. I own a damasko, not buying anymore. I'm dreading when I need to get it serviced. The guy on WUS even had the vice admin of the site, some boomer american resident in Germany that's always made big noise about being on a first name basis or being mates with half the German watch industry personalities, contact Konrad Damasko himself to get it sorted. Nothing happened.

Honestly surprised WUS allowed the thread to stay up at all since they're shill-central and that one thread alone is enough to drive away a whole lot of potential customers.
Title iirc is "rust on case and bracelet" , something like that.

>>15040035
Right? Seiko moved the SKX to the Seiko 5 line but didn't align the price with the other 5's. What you get is an overpriced Seiko 5 and an SKX that's missing the best bits. I'd rather cop an SKX even though they're inflated in price. I'd cop a Sharkey before I got a 5KX actually.