/fa/ - Fashion

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w2c mens pre-indiglo ironman

Thinking of buying the CasiOak, but can’t really decide if I want it in all black or not. Buying both seems like a waste.

http://www.onthedash.com/spotted-chief-justice-roberts-pp-ref-5205g/

> >REMINDER TO NEVER BUY RUN OF THE MILL, POST QUARTZ CRISIS, ZOMBIFIED SWATCH BRANDS
>never buy longines and omega

Will any of these watches be worth anything when we die and the next generation gets them? I highly doubt anyone will give a shit.

>>15026738
Just get the far superior gw-5000-1jf with an actual stainless steel case and screw down back like the original g-shock instead of falling for the carbon fiber meme.

>>15026760
>low quality dead brand like baume and mercier

just why

>>15026790
Almost every watch over 42mm will be worthless as the massive watch craze finally dies. In 20 years a 46mm dive watch will be considered a joke, with no demand except from ageing eastern euro millennials.

>>15026804
whats the "best" 5000 series model in the $200 price range?

>>15026812
GW-M5610
>radio/atomic time keeping
>solar
>all the other perks of 5600

daily reminder that a pre-quartz crisis Rolex cost the equivalent of $400-$600 today, and they only started raising the price in order to make their watches seem like luxury products rather than tools

daily reminder that the Swiss literally got their start counterfeiting/undercutting American, French, and especially British watches


daily reminder that of all watch brands, it is Rolex that spends the most on advertising

daily reminder that ALL mountain Jew watches are products of marketing, not just Swatch and Richemont

>>15026827
this one has been the most recommended one by far, isnt this one small though? only real concern here, also the band is very basic but im sure i could swap that out for maybe nato

>>15026812
Why it's the 5000-1jf if you want atomic and solar, or the 5035D-1B if you want one without those features.
If you really want to save a few dollars there are some used 500-1jf models out there, just take a good look at condition because you won't save any money if you have to replace the bezel and strap.

>>15026835
Yes the 5600 series is smaller than the 5000 series. It's not a huge difference but they are not the same.

>>15026842
>>15026838
alright so i have now narrowed my choices down to the 5000-1jf and the GW-M5610. what are the differences between these two aside from the price? both share the same features

>>15026804
>>15026738
Both of these have radio spyware right?

>>15026851
The 1jf as seen in pic related has a metal case under the resin bezel with a DLC coated screw down back. It is based on the original 80s g-shock design with the updated solar and atomic radio features. It also has a nicer softer band.
The 5610 is a more modern design that features a plastic case under the resin bezel, the back is a stamped pice of thin steel attached with 4 screws as seen on cheaper modern digital watches. It is smaller and lighter than the 5000 and has the standard casio resin strap.

>>15026876
Here is the back of the 5610 for comparison

>>15026864
>Go to Japan. See Kyoto. Stay at a ryokan or some such high-end westerner-friendly thing.
Why? It's all on Google Maps.
>Go to eastern europe. See Prague. Get falling over drunk on cheap vodka and stagger back into your top-end tourist hotel.
I lived in Prague for 2 years, it's just a city dude. It has the same architecture as every middle-European city. Why can't you get drunk on your father-brother's Alabama moonshine?
>Get an imagination. See an iconic tourist-friendly (even internally to the country) city. Participate in the mildly hackneyed local flavour of tourist shite.
Perhaps it's you who needs to "get an imagination" if the only way you can fathom the existence of something foreign to your cornfed shithole is to experience it for yourself?

>>15026851
The 5035D-1B is the way to go if you want the classic 80s design and features with no radio 5g babyraping spyware

>not going to Japan to buy a GS so you get the best of both worlds

>>15026883
I'm so glad I toured Europe 15 years ago before the whole place went to shit. I would not even waste my money visiting these days.

>>15026888
i really dont care for your schizophrenic claims.
>>15026876
i might as well just add the $100 more and go with the 1jf then, it looks really good with the metal case. thanks

>>15026889
>not going to Chistopol to buy a Bocтoк instead>>15026896

>>15026889
>and get coroonered
No thanks. The Swiss air is crisp and clean.

>>15026807
> I know nothing about the baumatic movement and make all my judgments based solely on brand name.

>>15026904
>i really dont care for your schizophrenic claims.
That's what retards were saying before Snowden too, even if it was obvious what's being done since the 70s at least. And it's what they're still saying AFTER Snowden for some reason.

>>15026930
moron incase you didnt know, in modern times its impossible to not be tracked. even if you do have a watch without atomic, you will have something else on your person that can be tracked. you can fuck right off. also im sure youre not using 7 vpns currently while posting on an anonymous taiwanese glasses manufacturing forum. i bet youre the kind of retard that uses incognito mode and thinks you cant be tracked

>>15026750
If you have doubt then rather wait a bit. I bet they will release different colors soon and they will look way better than these. If i'd have to choose, i would get the red one. The other two bore me. And i usually like simpler looking watches but these just don't do it for me.

>>15026883
Okay. So money (travel) can't cure joylessness. Maybe what you need is just a holiday in general. Pripyat maybe. Or another watch, whatever.

Jesus fuck, "it's all on google maps" must be the worst take ever.

>>15026921
Bauhaus is a rejection of beauty and a userptation of tradition to be replaced with cold brutal unfeeling utilitarianism. The movement was started by people who believe that every time Europeans erect too many Greek columns that they start getting tossed into ovens. Bauhaus is a disgusting and evil movement that belongs in the dustbin of history and the watches are ugly and gay.

>>15026934
>you will have something else on your person that can be tracked.
What? And what does posting on 4chan from your basement have to do with your movements when you're out in public?

Guys, whatever you do, don’t travel to Europe. You’re gonna see a bunch of well-dressed, cute girls wearing topcoats and knee boots holding hands with and obediently following their objectively weird-looking Euro boyfriends. It’ll make you confused, depressed, and angry.

>>15026760
fuck your glare chart

>>15026935
New colors

>>15026965
More new colors

>>15026888
>>15026904
First, it's far more likely that you're being tracked (mostly for commercial purposes, with data being available to spooks if their front company pays the spot price) by the RFID chips inside the banknotes in your wallet. Those are readable by directional antenna from within eyeshot; combine two or three in a public place and it's possible to pinpoint a particular RFID combination's position. Said tags also exist in clothes manufactured since, uh, 2004-ish. Shoes, coats, gloves, and so forth. Most of them remain from manufacturing, but they're just as workable now.

Second, the only way to track a radio-set watch by the radio-specific bits of its machinery is to listen to the frequencies emitted by the receiver's amplifier. This is the same principle as used in gadgets that detect speed trap detectors (and their detectors, etc, down the rabbit hole). These are way, way lower power than RFID hailbacks, and there's very little reason for spooks to use this in any capacity since everyone (and everyone they swap wardrobes with) is already identifiable by a little personal RFID cloud.

As such, I propose that you take to calling radio-set watches the "electric jew", and leave the rest of us out of your mistargeted halfway magical paranoia.

>>15026987
I think the actual issue, with atomic watches as that there is the possibility that the atomic radio time brodcast could be shut off at some point and many atomic watches are programmed to continue trying to pick up a signal. This could seriously effect battery life or otherwise limit the functionality of the watch. Is this likely to happen anytime soon? Apparently the were thinking of turning off the one in north America a few years ago, but now it's used by a lot of tech industry to set network time so it is probably going to be around for the foreseeable future.

>>15026987
>Said tags also exist in clothes manufactured since, uh, 2004-ish. Shoes, coats, gloves, and so forth
Where? Never seen any of those anywhere in any clothes. And who doesn't have a RFID wallet?

>>15026987
tldr?
>>15027005
so basically atomic watches are good?

>>15026750
I like it, but if I’m buying a Casio I want multi band and solar. Hopefully they’ll listen to me and improve it soon.

>>15027013
Yes atomic watches are fantastic and allow you to have the accuracy of a $500 quartz movement in a much cheaper watch. Their are things that could maybe make them less useful in the future but at least with the g-shocks I think you can just disable the atomic time set and use it like a normal watch.

>>15027027
Yeah but how can you be sure that it doesn't phone home anyway? It probably does.

>>15027038
I avoid this problem by buying a 5g enabled smartwatch and sleeping with it under my pillow. That way I can be 100% sure that it is phoning home and that I am fully enveloping my brain with soothing radiation.

Who makes case hardened watches that don't have an eta 2824?

>>15027008
Seams, usually, but also in the middle of materials such as leather or rubber. (the insertion hole will have been plugged or glued in, and will usually be hard to find without peeling the material apart and finding a spot that opens by itself a little.) The tag itself is tiny, about the volume of 1/12 of a grain of white rice. Some of them are attached to strips of white nylon weave for ease of installation, but the ones for e.g. anti-theft (at the factory, sometimes in component things by themselves) are concealed in things like buttons, bulk fabric, and so on. Manufacturing generally bothers to remove neither, nor to tell any customer (brand, etc.) what's going on -- particularly for the anti-theft stuff, some of which is for monitoring factory employees and others for determining the route of stolen items if they turn up at some border somewhere.

The tags cost like 1/4 americent a pop in bulk, so there'll be a bunch of them in e.g. a winter coat.

Also, how do you test that your RFID-shielding wallet works? And that it doesn't have RFID tags of its own, since it's a thing that you'll be carrying with you for reasons of privacy and therefore particularly valuable?

>>15027038
If you send out signals in the wrong bands out for the world to see, it interferes with other things and the us government will literally hunt you down to stop it, and then fine you. Why don't you dumb fucks ever study radio if you're so worried?

>>15027076
I only buy watches which have a mercury filled sapphire case.

>>15027062
Rolex

Just got sent a vintage Rolex instead of a vintage Omega. What do I do /fa/, do I keep it and play dead or do I write to the dealer ? I'm freaking out over this.

>>15027083
Writing to the dealer is the high integrity move. Mixups happen, boomers gotta fuck up too. There's some poor sod somewhere who's got a vintage Omega instead of a vintage Rolex; and you can't let some rollie wanker have your Omega now can you, it's principle already.

>>15027083
Do you live in the USA? If the guy mailed it to you it's yours. He can bitch and moan but they made laws against sending unsolicited products and then billing for them after all the problems that used to happen.

>>15026946
...why are you talking about Bauhaus? That has nothing to do with this watch. The baumatic is obviously named after the Baum in the brand's name.

These are the people you are asking fashion advice form :)

>>15027106
>baumatic
Not really my thing but to each their own i guess

Way too many shitters in this thread already. Posting some real watches.

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>>15027112
These are the people you are asking fashion advice form :)

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>>15027129

Own a fuckton of watches. Every one and then wear the shitter my granfather gave my dad for his 18th birthday back in 1976. Both are still alive and well btw, the old man is 91.

>>15027140
*now and then. Sorry for fucking phoneposting.

>>15027134
Okay that should do for now.
More watches less shitters

>>15027096
>>15027095

I live in Europe. From what I've read, I tend to think that consumer law in my country does not allow me to keep it, as much as I want to.

I'm going to write to the guy and make the sensible choice here.

I'm freaking out over shipping something that expensive myself desu

>>15026728
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>>15026576
I'll chime in again. Building upon your reasoning; what's the point of owning a watch if you can just watch WatchFinder guy videos on youtube? Especially your argument against traveling for a sake of appreciating architecture falls short here. In particular this guy not only shows a watch from every possible angle but his macro shots are breathtaking and showing the watch from angles that you couldn't appreciate on your own just by owning a watch. It's literally the opposite with watching architecture on photos. Where the perspective matters a lot and the continuous experience of being in a place adds so much value. You could rightly say that 'instead of pictures watch HD 360 interactive shots then or watch drone videos to see the piece form angles that are impossible for a human'. You'd be right that here but I really believe that there's more to the experience than just seeing. I don't want to make a pretentious argument for an 'immersion' but we've got many more senses than sight. By being at a place, rather than watching the pictures, at let's say in an old church you can hear the surroundings, the church bells, sound of monks running somewhere in a hurry and those of amazed tourist around you, smell of frankincense and myrrh filling the space, you can touch the antique wooden benches with all of its irregularities etc. There are also things that are just made to be appreciated in person like stained glass interaction with light etc, etc. For a watch the additional factor is touch and sound (if there's any).

And I'm trying to be generous with interpreting your point of view here. Because I hope you don't want to argue in favor of happiness that one can derive from owing a thing as we all know that it's very short-lived. It's also one of very few things that we know for sure in psychology regarding happiness that owning things is vastly inferior to experiencing things. >>15026560

>>15027151
contd. I think that your anger is misguided and you're just projecting here. What you really hate is mindless traveling business and the praise and status traveling has in our society. I think everyone is on your page with you on it. If one is traveling just for a sake of doing the same thing as in his hometown: going to a random restaurant, getting the same drinks as usual at a random place, just to go to a club where they play the same shitty music and bring back a random traveler-slut to your hostel then the fact that you puked in the meantime at Colosseum instead of a street corner in your hometown doesn't make a hell of a difference. Moreover I also hate a mindless consumption of culture: going to museums from a top of a City's Trip Advisor list because everyone does that, looking at pieces that everyone look at without any understanding. If one puts some effort into his travels then I think there are not many more important and fulfilling experiences one can have on a regular basis. Many anons gave good examples of what one can find worthwhile in traveling.

>>15027149
Tell the guy to pay for the shipping, and use premium and insurance by your public post service. You will be fine.

>>15027126
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15027149
It was the senders mistake so they should pay for the return.

>>15026912
Based Boctok poster, thx for making me smirk every time i see that stupid pic.

The tourbillon - meme or absolute peak horology meme?

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>>15026968
Oh Shit, that was quicker than expected. Thanks a lot i will search them on YT to see it in real light.
>>15027016
Solar is a bit of a meme. It's easier and cheaper to change your batteries at home instead of the sealed battery from the solar watch.
The Solar thing will survive the time you wear the watch but if you want to keep it for 20 years or so, battery is the way to go.

>>15027203
I still don't get what it does.

>>15027203
Meme. If not on a pocket watch, it's double extra turbo meme. Not peak meme, just shitty meme.
Indistinguishable at a distance from a shitty exposed escapement watch. Just like skeleton watches, tourbs have been ruined by cheap looking "open heart" shitters.
Only exception to all this is the JLC gyro. Still useless, but at least they tried to make the complication actually applicable to a wrist watch and not a pocketwatch.

Ultra peak horology par excellence maymays are striking watches.
Hourly chimers, repeaters and the ultimate watch complication that's not some obscure astrological bullshit: the Grand Sonnerie.

>>15027216
tl;dr - moves the escapement around on at least one axis to cancel the effects of gravity. Made more sense for a pocket watch since they'd be sitting vertically most of the time.

>>15027216
>I still don't get what it does.
Neither do the people that buy watches featuring them.

>>15027203
If Durfour says the Tourbillon is a pointless complication in a wristwatch then who can disagree with that.

It's purely a gimmick to get more money from rich people.

want to buy a Rolex Explorer 1 or Oyster Perpetual should I go for the 36mm or 39mm?

This is my wrist with a Seiko SKX013

>>15027233
Get the 36mm.

>>15027222
>the ultimate watch complication that's not some obscure astrological bullshit: the Grand Sonnerie.
>For instance, in a 3 weight Vienna regulator wall clock, at 6:15 it would strike once on a high pitched gong, then strike six times on a lower pitched gong. At 6:30 it would strike twice on the high pitched gong, then six times on the lower pitched gong. At 6:45 three times on the high pitched gong, then six times on the lower pitched gong, and at 7:00 it would strike four times on the high pitched gong, then seven times on the lower pitched gong.
Fuck me, digital watches that beep once an hour are annoying enough.

>>15026946
Based kikehaus hater. I'm in the same boat but couldn't put it as nicely into words as you.
Here in germany some artsy hipsters fall for the bauhaus meme. For me that stuff looked sterile and boring. Like ikea trash but for retards with a bit more money and twice the ego.
Bauhaus is so full of itself. These artsy people try so hard to be different from the former generation. But with bauhaus and minimalism they are sactly like some of the older germans, that they dispise...both are boring cunts with no soul but on different levels.

Here's some bauhaus for 7,99€ you faggots, but sadly no humble brag with a casio. They rather buy sternglass watches from that protojew.

>>15027194
Mordor soul aesthetics make me sick

yбoжecтвo

>>15026834
>daily reminder that a pre-quartz crisis Rolex cost the equivalent of $400-$600 today, and they only started raising the price in order to make their watches seem like luxury products rather than tools
Marketing only explains about half the price increase in Rolex watches. The rest can be explained by increases in product quality. If you don't believe me, feel free to go look up the prices for other high grade series produced steel sports watches with in-house free sprund balance movements. The Tudor BB58 is one of the cheapest on the market at $3,250.

Rolex may be run by greedy mountain Jews, but their greediness still cannot be remotely compared to Swatch Group and low-to-mid tier Richemont and LVMH shitters.

So what is the god tier luxury watch brand?

>>15027233
You do have girl wrists so maybe the 36mm but the explorer wears small and tool watches like that aren't meant to look small. Honestly just try on both sizes if you can.

>>15026946
>Bauhaus is a rejection of beauty and a userptation(sic) of tradition to be replaced with cold brutal unfeeling utilitarianism
Yes.

>>15027253
God tier in what aspect? Price? Quality of finishing? Prestige? Movement? I don't think the is one brand that dominates in all these categories

>>15027253
roger smith

>>15027247
Rawleks is as scammy as it gets. But i donÄt care. It's just fascinating what we can learn about human behaviour when we look at luxury goods consumption.
The mountainjews are only partly to blame. The other part are greedy consoomers that parroted the meme about rolex being an investment.
Rolex memed them into it via marketing. And now they do this fake scarcity shit with their "steel sports watch (((crisis)))".
And their little waiting lists. One has to be a pretty dumb goy to want to kiss ass to be put further up in the list of your rolex dealer.

But some only do to resell for an inflated price. It's like a stock, a bubble. If rolex finds a way to solve the bubble before it bursts, they can make even more money.

>>15027238
The grands usually have a switch to go from grand sonnerie (the full shebang), petit sonnerie, and silence. They can also strike on demand like a repeater. It's the ultimate complication that you could possibly find "useful" unlike solar time, or the position of Uranus when it intersects with Saturn's dick, ratatouille chronograph that counts in multiples of 3 or whatever bullshit. So difficult is their design and construction, so few makers have ever managed to do it and it's a task to find a maker today that has one in their lineup. It's just one off piece uniques and concept pieces from JLC. There's less than a handful of master watchmakers left that are adept in their design and construction.

>>15027247
Please, Rolex is the brand that capitalizes the most on manufactured, artificial scarcity. Rolex is the brand that is governed by an ostensibly non-profit entity so as to dodge tax disclosures. And no man with any dignity would ever willingly play the Rolex AD hoop jumping game.

Rolex isn’t any better than the other mountain Jew manufacturers. If anything, they’re worse.

>>15027266
Is it really artificial scarcity if they're unwilling to produce more? It's not like Panerai a decade ago where Richemont deliberately made the decision to start churning out less one quarter all of a sudden just to fuel hype; Rolex just chugs along churning out its million (+) a year. No more and no less. If more people want Rolex all of a sudden that demand far outstrips supply then it's just too bad as there only releasing what they've always released.
I see people throwing the "artificial scarcity" buzzterm at this practice and it just doesn't fit the situation

Are glycine any good?

>>15027291
Yes, it absolutely is artificial scarcity. Rolex claims that the GMT Master is a $12000 watch, when it’s more like 20. Want to buy one for that price? You can’t, unless you’ve swallowed a pint of AD semen. And at 20k, you should be in the market for something much better than a GMT Master.

This came in today

>>15027303
magnifying glass looks shitty and file name suggests you stole the pic from some unsuspecting loser

>>15027303
Fake or Frankenstein. 16750 Bezel with a modern (post-2005) GMT Master II dial.

>>15027266
I loved this lil nibba so much I made a transparent one

>>15027301
That's not what artificial scarcity means. You're talking about pricing. As deals with supply.

>>15027334
Per Wikipedia:

>Artificial scarcity is the scarcity of items that exists even though either the technology for production or the sharing capacity exists to create a theoretically limitless or at least greater quantity of production than currently exists.

Rolex could easily produce more steel sports watches. Instead, they keep producing gaudy, precious-metal shitters that new customers are forced to purchase in order to gain access to the actually desirable watches. In the end, though, non-white consumers will still end up vacuuming up anything Rolex, so Rolex can laugh all the way to the bank.

>>15027287
This. If i were retarded enough to blow 10K+ on a watch i'd be pissed to have to go in a list. They should be on a damn list to kiss my ass when they want that money. People that fall for it just have a slave mindset and are submissive.

>>15027291
Listen, i was on the same path as you, trying to explain why a manufacturer can or can't do something but then i understood that it's defending them for free. Me as a potential consumer, i have the right of doubt. So yes, it is artif. scarcity.
I don't care about rolexes fake problems and lies.
>>15027332
haha, thanks i found him by accident but it fits to into so many topics recently.

>>15027341
They're producing the same ratio of gaudy shit to popular steel sports as they've always done. They're not churning out less SS in favor of that crap.
>that new customers are forced to purchase in order to gain access
Blame the dealers. This is not something forced on them through decree by Rolex. Rolex release a fixed amount because that's what they've always done and want to do, regardless of market popularity, which just so happens to be at an all time high because buyers don't want all the other shit on the market, which is plentiful. If dealers are playing tricks then that's their issue. Rolex boutiques don't play the points game, at least none of the ones I've been to. List price is list price. That's not changed. If morons are paying so much over list from authorized dealers or the secondary market that's their own damn problem. The only way Rolex could remedy this is to sell direct to the consumer, but they would forsake every retail operation relationship they've built up over the past century to do so.
>Rolex could easily produce more steel sports watches
You say this like you know it for a fact, as if you are familiar with the intimate workings of their factories and know exactly how much more they could produce whilst still maintaining quality whilst still producing other models that still sell well, regardless of whatever hype makes it seem online. DJs are their walk-in bread and butter model.
And anyway, perhaps they simply don't wish to prodice anymore than they historically have.
You going to force them to produce more hypeshit that's fad right now just for you? lmao
Go to a communist country if you want to force companies to produce a set number of items.

No ones entitled to anything.

>>15027233
that look is epitome reddit

Water resist watches without the diving bezel? Here's what I can think of:
Seiko alpinist
Some Tudor I can't remember
Damasko ds30
Vintage omega seamaster
Nomos club (some models) and ahoi
Some rolex I can't remember

>>15027376
Just so were are clear you understand that what Rolex is doing is the definition of artificial scarcity right?

>>15027405
Casio GA-2100

>>15027203
The tourbillon is a meme but the gyrotourbillon isn't.

>>15027376
>Rolex release a fixed amount because that's what they've always done and want to do, regardless of market popularity,
Is there any place where one can check the released numbers each year both currently and in the past? Would be interesting.

>>15027366
It's not my intention to defend some brand like some retarded fanboy. I don't like a single modern rolex and once I replace my stolen 14270 that's it for me. It's my intention to explain to people that things aren't as simple as they might at first appear.
>buh why can't they do X? It's simple!
It rarely is.
Yes yes of course considering the type of good it is, a luxury trinket that's value is nil and it's all perception blah blah, it's better for a company to not have them in every tom dick and harrys hands to drum up hype. Thing is, it's not good for them either long run. It'll just push people to other brands eventually. Shit I wonder how many Omegas have been sold purely due to the fact that Rolex wasn't available. I'd guess a sizable number. I'm sure they know that and either they dont care and are thinking short term (unlikely considering their history), or they know and can't really do much to stop it due to mitigating factors, whatever they may be.
That's why I think there's more to the story than just
>ebil rolec man mountainjeew laughing all the way to the bank after having sold all his watches to arabs and chinks, with the express purpose of depriving poor whitey of buying one of his overpriced, deprecated trinkets

>>15027376
So, now that you’ve conceded you were wrong on the point of what artificial scarcity is, we can continue.

>blame the dealers
I do. I blame Rolex as well. Just because one party is culpable does not mean the other isn’t, you understand. Rolex loves selling watches to Pajeets and boomers and boomer Pajeets, and ADs will be happy to continue taking 75% over list rather than sell to someone else. Of course, that sours other consumers on the AD, so when those ADs get eaten alive by Jomashop, the typical consumer isn’t going to give a shit. Bad feelings all around.

Also, the fact that you imply that Rolex is somehow incapable of making more Explorers and Submariners and Daytonas and GMT Masters is hilarious. Rolex’s manufacturing is particularly opaque, because they don’t want the consumer the see a bill of materials for $400 on their twelve grand watch.

The DJ is their walk in model because they’re too ugly to sell. Same deal with the Yachtmaster and Cellini.

>no one’s entitled to anything
Indeed, and Rolex certainly isn’t entitled to you (ignorantly) posting on their behalf for free, and yet here you are, lmao. Rolex also isn’t entitled to my twenty grand for a steel sports watch, when I can spend that on something much, much better.

What probably happened is that demand grew for Rolex because they threw most of it into marketing, and they don't want to build more factories. Their sales keep going up. Rolex cranks out a shit ton of watches compared to anyone that isn't Japanese or Chinese.

>>15027430
>hing is, it's not good for them either long run. It'll just push people to other brands eventually. Shit I wonder how many Omegas have been sold purely due to the fact that Rolex wasn't available. I'd guess a sizable number. I'm sure they know that
Isn't this precisely why they created Tudor?

>>15027419
>The tourbillon is a meme but the gyrotourbillon isn't.
It's too bad they are so big. I'm the kind of retard that would buy a steel sports watch with one of those if i was rich. Especially if it was less than 13mm thick and hidden under the dial.

>>15027233
That's the 007 you dunce
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>>15027255
>15027381
What incompetence, shame on you

>>15027431
>The DJ is their walk in model because they’re too ugly to sell
isn't the dj is their best selling model and has been for decades?
the subset that want a sub or explorer is smaller than the random walk in office worker tier buyers that just want a dj or op, the apparently ubiquitous popularity of steel sports is exaggerated by online discussion

>>15027439
Demand grew (and has grown) for Rolex because they immediately recognized they couldn’t compete with Japan on price during the quartz crisis, and so they immediately moved upmarket and tried to compete on prestige instead. Contrast with Omega, who during the quartz crisis cheapened their product and in the process harmed their brand image. It was only in the 90s when Omega made the very wise move of buying the Bond product placement (it also didn’t hurt that the Seamaster was a very good watch) that Omega began to recover.

>>15027266
>>15027287
You're both misunderstanding my point. Rolex is greedy, but at least they haven't compromised on quality. Their watches today are among the very best made mass produced mechanical sports watches in the world, and in their Tudor versions they are quire price competitive for what they are offering.

I'd rather something be overpriced and made well, than overpriced and also made mediocrely like most other Swiss mass market watchmakers.

>>15027443
Tudor was around before rolex hype reached its current stratospheric heights. It's been thrust into the spotlight because of this though. If rolex wasn't as popular as they currently are I doubt they would have bothered to invest much money in it.

>>15027453
Rolex won’t ever tell you their sales numbers. They’re a “””””non-profit”””””, so they’re not obliged to.

>>15027430
>It rarely is.

I know. Like i said.Been exactly like you and tried to understand rolex and be rational about them. I know the arguments about production and other problems.
But nope, my demand will not change.
>fuck you rawlegs, churn out shit faster

I guarantee you that they will change to suit customers demand as soon as they see the bubble deflate. They know their markets and won't let the bubble pop.
>see deflation, less hype, less speculation and demand
>next market strategy/ies starts being implemented

>>15027456
You don’t get nearly $20k worth of quality in a new GMT Master. You don’t get nearly $30k worth of quality in a new Daytona. That’s the issue. At retail, they might be justifiable, but because they’re so beloved by Mahmoud and Vikram, you’re not going to find one for retail.

At that price point, you’re better off with a true haute horlogerie piece.

>>15027492
It’s gonna be funny when the vintage Rolex market implodes after the boomers die. It’s just like cars, nobody is going to pay $200k for a fucking Plymouth Barracuda, and no one is going to pay out the nose for a 70s Daytona.

>>15027309
I am a loser but it's not stolen
>>15027331
I'll give you partial credit. 16750 was never made with a Coke bezel. You are right about the dial, it is a Z serial which puts it at 2006.

Is it just me or are the movements in the orient line better than the 7s26, 4r35, and 6r15?

>>15027470
>this can't be real, rolex is never ever...

Huh, it's real. Fucking kikes. Non profit is such a great scam to fuck taxation and look good with it. Rolex is purest trash.
>>15027501
Yeah, would love to see that happen.

>>15027509
So, you have an 80s aluminum bezel when the real one came with ceramic? Why?

>>15026968
Thoughts on the 2100? I have a friend who is a trauma nurse and I've been considering getting her the purple one.

>>15027565
your friend who is a trauma nurse fucks big black cocks

>>15027449
Even if it was the 007 the rec for the 36mm one still stands familia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_YyRBYZjM

Talk me out/in getting Cartier Tank as my first dress watch.

>>15027614
>dress watch
>numeral dial
pick one

>>15027614
Santos looks better to be honest.

>>15027614
Good choice.
>classy and subtle
>timeless design
>in house movement
>reasonable price for the value
>this is probably the only brand other than Rolex that girls know about as every slut wants a Cartier love/pin bracelet

Well I like that Rolex is "independent". But yeah, hate the advertisement factor.

very high & drunk rn

>>15027635
watches?

>>15027620
You're out of your mind

why is a portable clock on one's person called a watch?

>>15027614
good choice, cant go wrong with a cartier tank

>>15027640
Tank is boring with its rounded polished sides, santos as least has multiple types of finishing going on.

>>15027642
Because people are too lazy to call it a "wristwatch" so that got shortened to just "watch".

>>15027647
Sorry, but I find the Santos absolutely hideous.

>>15027643
*depending of the cntext obv

>>15027654
Working as an analyst in an investment bank, so pretty much in my suits 80h/week.

>>15027521
Aluminum bezels for the GMT Master II were used up until the release of the 116710 in 2008 when they switched to ceramic. I have a 16710 that was produced in 2006.

What's next? The black ink used on the date indicator is from a 1970s model datejust?

I can assure you the watch is real and all the pieces are proper for the serial number. The guy in the overcoat on the streets of Hong Kong who sold it to me told me it was legit.

>>15027653
That's okay anon, there's such a thing as difference in taste. I can at least see why someone wouldn't like it, even if I do. I just wish there was less brand tax on it to be honest.

>>15027614
it's a bit degenerate for my taste

>>15027565
I like it, it's fucking huge, 47mm iirc so is she a butch lesbian?

i got this passed down to me a while ago and i noticed recently that it becomes 5 mins off and needs adjustment every two or so weeks
is this normal?

>>15027711
Yeah that's pretty normal for an old watch. Should look into getting it serviced.

>>15027711
Quartz or mechanical?

>>15027719
do i need to go to the resellers service center or can any place service it?

>>15027720
from my understanding its quartz

>>15027746
A service for that would likely cost more than the watch is worth. Also being 5 minutes off every ~2 weeks is rather poor for a quartz movement.

>>15027703
No, her wrist is pencil thin. I was under the impression it was small. Do they make a gshock for smol people?

>>15027760
Baby g

>>15027614
Looks great to me

are there any modern manufactures excellent chronograph movements under $1000 besides the
>st19 ($250 watches)
>valjoux 7750 ($700-900 watches)
>that one poljot movement ($300-400)

should a guy just not bother with chronographs?

pic unrelated

>>15027620
Nu-Santos is meh. I'd love an original though.

Got my first automatic watch, used. works fine but the guy doesn’t remember when he last serviced it so I thought I might as well do it. How much should I expect to pay considering it’s working fine? I am in bongland

>>15027792
I'm having the same conundrum. Especially between 1000-5000 it's just a wasteland of 43mm depraz dinnerplates. Time to take the vintage pill

>>15027812
i would absolutely go for what you just suggested becasue it makes my penis large and swolen however my needs dictate non vintage

for some reason i cant stop buying citizen divers

>>15027823
Is the whole dial on the right one lumed?

>>15027830
yes

>>15027838
Nice, that looks better than I expected it to.

>>15027821
Just accept your fate

>>15027792
If you're willing to go up to $1,500 you'd be able to consider something with a Seiko 8Rxx or a microbrand with the NE88 (same movement). The downside is that it is modular in design (though the chronograph module is not disposable like a DD module), the plus side is you get a vertical clutch, column wheel design.

>>15027891
Not him, but are there any chronos with that movement <=38mm? Does it make watches THICC like the 7750 almost always does?

>>15027898
>are there any chronos with that movement <=38mm?
Nope.
>Does it make watches THICC like the 7750 almost always does?
Yup.

>>15027902
Oh well. No one seems to be interested in making a smallish chronograph these days. At least not one that's cheap.

should I buy this? it has the gold medallion on the back and everything

>>15027932
If it hasn't been repolished then go for it. Also take into account servicing costs if it hasn't been serviced recently.

>>15027932
Thanks just bought it.

>>15027792
You should just stick to quartz there

>>15027151
>I'll chime in again. Building upon your reasoning; what's the point of owning a watch if you can just watch WatchFinder guy videos on youtube?
Videos are unironically a lot more impressive and /fa/ than seeing watches in person, you see this awesome looking full screen thing on YouTube then irl it's some tiny watch, still nice but way less interesting. You undercut your argument against the other anon talking about Google Maps and shit bc Watchfinder is an unironically better experience than buying a Lange

A lot of travel is really just degenerate overeating/drinking and pointless status signalling on social media. Travel = good is not some clear universal truth. Personally I'd only travel for special occasions or to see places that matter for me for specific historical interests. Just going on some frequent flyer 100 top destinations tour is completely retarded. I know some guy from a forum who literally does that all his life and he's an alcoholic fat fuck who fails in romantic relationships and lives off his rich lawyer dad. At some point you run out of cool places to go and you end up in some 5 star hotel in bumfuck Eastern Europe on your laptop chatting to the same forum posters as every other night

>>15028238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMN-k-OJtqQ

A case of YouTube > owning the watch:

It's free to look at this dope Breguet dial in this video that's captured better than your naked eye could ever see with a loupe

If you buy it new you're writing a big check to Swatch Group which probably pockets like an 80, 90% profit margin on this just because they own the rights to the name and design. To think you're buying a historical Breguet piece in this is delusional. This is a homage basically.

Buy it used or grey and you're cashing out people who are desperate to unload these depreciating bricks on you and you're doing them a huge favor. Once you own it you're on the hook for water damage, insurance, maintenance, theft, etc

The video is free. "Oh but then no one will see that I own it." Literally no one cares and maybe one person a year might say "is that a ____?" to any luxury watch you own besides sports Rolexes which might be noticed 5 to 10 times a year

>>15028238
>>15028287
Can we just talk about watches without all this tldr poorfag cope and status insecurities.

>>15028293
I'm a 25 yo software engineer with ~300k nw I can reasonably afford most watches desu

>>15028301
Cool what watches are you interested in?

>>15028287
>"Oh but then no one will see that I own it." Literally no one cares and maybe one person a year might say "is that a ____?" to any luxury watch you own besides sports Rolexes which might be noticed 5 to 10 times a year
When you wear a luxury watch, your life is automatically better, because people notice it even without saying anything. Do you think the hotel receptionist will comment on your watch? No, but he will know you're a VIP who has to be treated with respect. Same goes for other service staff and lesser beings.

>>15028317
Normal people cant tell the difference between a JLC and some overpolished Chinese shitter.

>>15026812
I consider the cheapest square G-Shock (5600) being the best one, because you're more likely to use it for its intended purpose. I'm certain that a lot of people who spend $500 on a full metal G-Shock will be afraid to even scratch it.
Also, as it gets more expensive, additional features are getting less and less useful (with Bluetooth being the most useless one). 5600 already has everything that you may actually *need* in a watch.

>>15028313
I'm getting into dress watches right now like that Breguet but it's LARP and wouldn't fit my style. I'm in the Pacific Northwest and no one dresses in a way that they can put on a Breguet or Lange or something and it wouldn't be odd

I also walk to work often in the rain and some moisture got into my Seiko that's rated to 30m (either from that or rinsing/washing it and now it fogs up in the cold) and I'm sure some ultra thin dress watch would similarly get fucked up by how I handle my watches

Do you guys with dress watches just never rinse it off? That thing is on your arm right next to your hand and it's accumulating sweat and particles from outdoors and that's just fine with you? Sounds unhygienic

>>15028335
Why would someone from a socioeconomic class that can afford a good dress watch ever sweat?

>>15026959
based

>>15028325
Is your seiko and older watch? Do you know if it uses a gasket in the back? Sometimes they dry out or are damaged, if that's the issue it would be an easy fix.
But yeah water resistance ratings seem to be some elaborate scam by watchmakers. When a 30m rated watch is apparently not okay to swim withm

sure, the M79 is piece of shit, but don't let that stop you from taking the TIMEXpill

>>15028379
Nope modern Seiko 5
Apparently washing your watch under running water fucks it up
Somehow all my old quartz watches survived though

>>15026959
>This Is the Field Watch You Buy When You Outgrow Your Timex
https://gearpatrol.com/2018/05/02/review-hamilton-khaki-field-mechanical/

How the fuck can you recommend things like that, it's demeaning and patronizing and if you ever read a review like that you'll feel like the biggest cuck in the world.

Would this colour scheme look shit in person?

>>15028434
is that black and not blue?

>Coke is a better soda
>Pepsi is a better bezel

Beautiful

>>15028517
Look I get that you hate Seiko but you don't have to be a dick about it. Every watch brand turns out hot garbage like that thing occasionally.

What's the deal with 'steeldive' from aliexpress?
They've got a few interesting things at seemingly fair prices and I could see myself wearing a 'homage' to something that is not 100% known. Especially for a tool watch I would have zero regrets to buy it at a tool price instead of JEWelery prices.
E.g. those two 50 fathoms
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000557063838.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000498979614.html (maybe a bit over the top with the no rad sign)
Or a tuna can
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33034152745.html
The internet seems to like them, but I'd like to hear /fa/s take on them.
Also, what's the deal with dozens of stores selling them with prices up to $50 cheaper than the 'official' store? Are there fakes of the homage on aliexpress?

>>15028379
>>15028420
>water resistance ratings seem to be some elaborate scam by watchmakers.
Yes and no.
Yes, because while 30m technically means it's waterproof down to 30m, it doesn't mean that you can use it in water and No, because everyone who can read can easily decipher what those ratings mean and why 30m does indeed mean 30m but doesn't mean 30m…
Seriously, have you never, ever read what those numbers mean?

What's the consensus?

>>15028807
Best watch blog by a mile. Yes they shill what they sell now but I never buy anything so no harm done imo

>>15028805
>Yes they are all lying but it's okay because you can read an article about it on Wikipedia.

>>15028830
What a brainlet response. They are not lying. If it says 30m waterproof, it is 30m waterproof. But not how you brainlet think. read up a bit on how water pressure works.

>>15028834
>Well it is technically able to resist the pressure of 30m of water but only in conditions that don't exist outside of a carefully controlled test environment. Also in the real world this might not even be good enough for you to wash your hands while wearing it. Why are you such a brainlet? it's so simple and obvious what these ratings mean.

>>15028839
>it's so simple and obvious what these ratings mean.
indeed.
30m means it can resist the water pressure of being submerged under 30m of water. And if you've got any idea about physics, you understand why this also means you can't take it swimming in a 3m pool.

>>15028807
Used to be a good site with best articles. Now it's just a marketing site for their own shop and brands they sell. They *never* criticize any watch or brand in case it upsets their advertising or friends in the industry (e.g AP and the Code 11:59)

>>15028844
>And if you've got any idea about physics, you understand why this also means you can't take it swimming in a 3m pool.
This is a myth btw, it's been explained on watchuseek forums multiple times, you can't suddenly get to 30m water pressure with your arm movements while swimming, you can barely get that if you directly spray it with a hose.

>>15028854
Link please. Why wouldn't movement cause high pressure?

>>15028844
Or maybe, and hear me out on this. The ratings on 90% of watches are just outright lies and moving your arm in a pool does not create 3 atmospheres of pressure.

>>15028861
It does, very slightly, not even nearly that much higher.

>>15028517
Looks great. That's one of the few watches with an open heart that i do not hate.
Love the comfy colors seiko recently did, like the cocktail times and the newer ones (irish coffee). Hexagons are super neat and the polishing is even better in dim areas.

thoughts on bronze watches?

>>15028923
I'd love to hear the explanation for why they charge more than stainless when it costs them 15¢ more in materials.

>>15028953
white people love paying the novelty tax

>>15028317
Do you really believe in what you wrote? Just curious.

>>15028964
Yes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3807529/First-class-upgrades-dinner-invites-amorous-women-One-traveler-reveals-far-wearing-expensive-WATCH-you.html

https://www.thrillist.com/expensive-watches-worth-respect-travel

>>15028958
why do nigs spend 500% more for the same vietnamese made plastic disposable shoelets as another?
why do chinks spend 2000% more for shit with one logo stuck on it vs another identical item with a different logo? (that are all made in northern Italy by factories filled with chinese workers anyway?)

best options for an alternative to a classic oyster perpetual under 500 bucks?

>>15026702
bought this guy for 72 usd , am i baste or just gay?

Anyone watch Tim on Watchbox?

This guy has never seen a watch that's too small (no, it actually wears bigger due to abc-xyz) or too big (actually it's very wearable I can recommend it to a girl)

>>15029000
Just gay, what's the point in buying a fake Casio?

>>15027614
It's a classy watch but you need to be classy yourself to pull it off in my opinion.

>>15027253
PP, VC and AP. They are the holy trinity for a reason.

>>15027151
WatchFinder is trash. There's only so many times you can have this faggot whispering grandiose terms about watches before longing for Stalin and a great purge.

>>15029025
And always with the same fucking music

>>15028317
holy shit what the fuck, you are actually retarded if you think this is how the world works you are either one of those e-commerce schmucks or just a child.

people will not treat you differently just because you wear a piece of metal that is expensive. that fucking clerk will jsut service you because you pay her salary you shit

>>15029000
Elektronikas are nice if you have the food module (55 I think).

>>15028984
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3807529/First-class-upgrades-dinner-invites-amorous-women-One-traveler-reveals-far-wearing-expensive-WATCH-you.html

TLDR spending more money gets you further.

>https://www.thrillist.com/expensive-watches-worth-respect-travel

>watches make you belong to a certain group i.e. only other faggots of the same type will appreciate that watch. normal people dont care.

The only reason people will treat you diferently when you wear a expensice watch is because you are an empty husk with no personality that can only get a little confidence from wearing expensive things. People see you being more confident and go off on that. Not your little rolly toy.

>>15028807
Good. Like the anon said, if you're someone that falls for shilling you should stay inside and shut down all your electronics. By now there's so many sources to check for watch related stuff, but it's still a good place with great photography.

>>15029045
I'm always impacted in unexpected ways by seeing people wear certain watches in the wild.

Saw a guy with a fucking Bell&Ross (a brand I thought I hated) and instantly my whole perception of him changed. Something I never would've expected from a brand like that.

>>15029042
Food module?
I have a 5 , with soviet patriotic songs on it

>>15029013
Its soviet , cool and its fun you homosex

>>15029034
BS.

Clothing in general and watches, glasses, pens etc buy you attention and respect. Sad? I dunno what to say, but damn true.

You have to adjust the stuff you wear to the desired effect and environment tho.

>>15029023
AP is nig-tier shit. Should have been replaced there for Lange long ago.

>>15029067
BS.

This is only true for people that are in the same pathetic category as you, which makes up less than .01 percent of people.

Is there truly anything more based than the vintage sports chrono?

>>15029075
Thats a sexy watch anon , i'm just not really into the leather strap

>>15028335
I use alcohol swabs to clean the gunk off once in a while

> https://youtu.be/K8l2DqJFkfo
> buying a rolex from jomashop in 2020
what are the chances that it's fake?

This is my work watch.

This is my beater. Both have the same movement.

Is Cartier considered a high end brand to normalfags?

>>15029142
Yes.

>>15029124
Great color. Love beige and the black outlines. That shit suits my autism for a balanced dial very well.

>>15029075
Based. They don't make em like they used to anon

Who Breitling here?
https://youtu.be/0kjGSOPSxsY

>>15029241
I want one but the most expensive watch i have is a tissot, so yeah

>>15029206
You said it brother

I lyk dis

>>15029121
>>15029124
Nice taste in 6R powered Seikos. That SARX has really sharp external finishing.

>>15029300
I prefer the lemania 5100 powered version of that case shape.

>>15027614
we won’t

>>15029121
>>15029124
Where did you buy these?

>>15029075
no

truly the most valuable type of watch, lets keep these prices upp

>>15029124
>compass markings on a watch
is there a more useless feature?

>giant stationary seconds hand that confuses the eyes and obscures the logo you paid good money for

hwg

>>15026702
Spoon-feed image to me pls.

Does this mean all those brand name watches are using just a cheap fossil watch beneath the brand?

>>15029366
its a list show what company or conglomerate owns what type brands

>>15028807
Great pictures and info, but you just have to keep in mind that they are being paid when they do reviews or they wont talk shit in order to maintain relationships with brands.

>>15029378
That would mean all those brands own fossil OR fossil owns all those brands? I don't get it.

>>15029390
fossil owns those brands. generally brands dont cooperatively own a single brand, thats p unheard of.

>>15029390
Fossil, or the Fossil owner whoever it is to be kore precise, owns the other brands. Same for the other groups.

>>15029401
Does this mean fossil owns the rights to use those brand? Fossil surely can't own, say, Armani which is a much larger brand?

I thought fossil was just cheap tier watches. Would that mean all those brands are using a fossil movement?

>>15029408
bruh wtf are you dense?
it's no different than how volkwagen group owns audi, porsche, etc. or how general motors owns chevy, cadillac, buick, etc.

>>15029420
>bruh wtf are you dense?

It appears so. I just thought fossil was a cheap watch make brand. I didn't know it was a super brand that owns all the other companies.

So I would assume all the other companies that make brands are using their own watch movement then? They are just owned by fossil but all have different (better) watches.

>>15029408
All those fashion brand watches have nothing to do with the clothing brand. An Armani watch is just licensed to use the name and the logo, but other than that, Armani has nothing to do with it.

>>15029433
>So I would assume all the other companies that make WATCHES***** are using their own watch movement then?

>>15029434
Ohhhhhhhhhhh now this is what I am talking about, so would this mean fossil is the watch and movement behind those brand names that just have the license to sue them?

As in an Armani watch will be more expensive than a fossil watch but behind the brand name, are they basically the same watch?

>>15029445
to USE* them* God I am brain farting so much today. Old age.

>>15029445
Basically yes. The watches with a fashion brand name of them are mainly scams/shit.

>>15029433
seiko owns orient.
orient makes their own movements
rolex owns tudor
tudor makes some of their own movements and some watches use off the shelf ETAs
there are bunches of brands that just use miyotas or etas not their own movements

>>15029459
It's because I know this guy who has a fossil watch and an armani watch and he's always bragging about how great and expansive his armani watch is.

I never get watches with those brand names, especially women with michael kors!

So in those cases the watch quality is that of a fossil watch and the extra you're paying is just for the brand?

>>15029433
Most watch companies use off the shelf movements from ETA, Sellita, etc. This is generally not a bad thing. More expensive luxury brands will use their own in-house movements, but that’s not necessarily better beyond prestige, though it can be if the company has a good reputation of producing accurate and durable movements.

>>15029461
Would make sense because most of those are known for being just watch brands, the fossil though, all the brands connected are fashion brands.

I am just shocked that all these "fashion watches" that people brag about are likely just fossil watches.

>>15029473
So would that make it likely a fossil and Armani watch could essentially be in a lot of cases be the same thing, just one has an Armani sticker on it?

>>15029471
All fashion brand watches are just some dirt cheap generic quartz movement with a brand label pasted onto the dial.

Women wearing Michael Kors are fine because they simply buy it because they like how it looks and don't give a shit about it's movement or other bullshit.

The twat bragging about his Armani is simply an ignorant douche with no taste and gets mogged by even the cheapest mechanical watch.

>>15029485
>Women wearing Michael Kors are fine because they simply buy it because they like how it looks and don't give a shit about it's movement or other bullshit.

I find in a lot of cases they show it off as a luxury item, as in look my watch is designer and costs a lot of money.

I bet even casio moggs those brands.

>>15029480
Yes.
Generally speaking: any watch not from a traditional/respected/well known watch brand but from a brand normally known for other things is bound to be overpriced at best and crap at worst. If you like the design and got in on clearance- fine. Who cares if you like it, but folks buying shitty made in China fashion pieces and then think they’re hot shit are embarrassing. But normies generally don’t care, so whatever.

>>15029492
>Michael Kors
I don’t get this brand anyways. Cheap mall shit but everyone pretends it’s some exclusive handmade Luis Vuitton piece.

>>15029492
Of course Casio is much better. In fact Casio is a great brand, only that they are only into electronics. But even watch snobs respect Casio.

>>15029492
The only women calling Michael Kors luxury are those that are poor.

>>15029493
I'll stick with my Vostok Komandirskie!

>>15029498
Women, go figure. I saw some chick with a pink gold one and "diamonds" around it thinking she was hot shit. Come to think of it, I come across a lot of assholes.

>>15029499
Not all electronics? I really like the divers watch they have but it's a big chunky for me.

>>15029501
Lol come to think of it, yeah, they were/are all poor women I have seen and talked to with them.

Why are name fags so fucking dumb and annoying, vruhs?

Why is there so much SPIC TRASH on my top 40 radio?

>>15029527
I'll take that this is aimed at me. Hurr you so annoying because you engaged in watch discussion in watch thread unlike me who makes a pointless post being a whiny bitch!

Yeah good one. Seems a troll has awoken and crawled out from under the bridge.

Everyone must know everything about watches before posting here, learners are banned. Got ya, kid. Way to bring more people into watch culture.

>>15029535
Post your watch.

>>15029535
fashion is culture of exclusivity, not more people in your culture

but this is basically a merchant shilling board

CA-53 is now available in various new colors... with one small problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W32cM4KZ-h8

I hope they don't discontinue the original CA-53, because that would be very stupid.
Negative display trend needs to die.

>>15029535
I agree with you, but you could do with lurking a bit more to get your information instead of posting 20 questions an hour to avoid pissing people off. Also the casio diver you posted >>15029512 is still electronic. Research the difference between quartz and mechanical movements

>>15029527
Your own fault for not insta-filtering namefags and tripfags.

>>15029561
true :(

Is 3k overpriced for this watch?

>>15029540
Right on it, big wig!

>>15029545
>lets have a stale group of people jerking off about their supreme group and feeling better than those who want to learn

Shit just ain't cash, breh.

>>15029558
Shit, you're right, I always associate electronic with digital watches and forget about quartz movements.

>>15027120
What the fuck is that thing

NEW THREAD WHEN?

>>15027222
patrician

>>15029064
I meant good.
I think you have the good one if you have the russian songs. Enjoy your manly watch tovarish.

>>15029637
Here: >>15027782
It's not official™ though.

>>15029655
NO
make it right

>>15027405
stowa does a flieger sport model but its fuckhuge

>>15028861
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/sigh-myth-busting-again-610734.html

got u senpai. doesnt mean that 30m is actually good it just means watch manufacturers get away with fraudulent claims basically. although if its a reasonably good watch it should be fine being submerged for a bit

Could a vintage handwind have a design that surpasses the current eta/unitas movements?

>>15029565
Seems average enough

>>15026702
based Richemont

new thread?

I am infatuated with Baltic Blue Aquascaphe, please send help

>>15030041
It's so fucking sexy, I'm lucky that I hate the cutouts for some of the indices or I would have bought one of every color already.

New bread:

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