/fa/ - Fashion

No. It makes you look like shit in the long run.

>>15020963
Everything makes you look like shit in the long run, people age.

>>15020960
what's wrong with that creature's face?

>>15020964
smoking just makes aging a lot faster

>>15020960
anything that gives you cancer and makes you, your breath, and every piece of fabric you wear smell like shit, will never be effay

Do you know why I never picked up smoking? Because I'm a self-absorbed weirdo and don't care much about most people.
You faggots all picked up smoking because you wanted to feel like you fit in somewhere and you couldn't stand to just hang out with the other smoking faggots without picking it up.
When you get older you won't have that clique of smoking buddies you'll just be standing around by yourself at work smoking while everyone else is inside talking about some GoT spin-off.

Bumsing is

>>15020974
i picked up smoking cuz i hated my voice

>>15020960
As a smoker, no, it isn't. There's only once cigarette that doesn't taste like ass, and that's Lucky Strike. Luckily, there are plenty similar/better tasting alternatives available in e-cigs. And yes, you look like a retard when you vape. You look just as dumb when you smoke.

>>15021074
Did it work?

>>15021124
low key yea i quit now tho

>>15020960
based

>>15020960
t. not old enough to smoke (or post on this website)

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>>15021156
I wish non smokers had this much hate for fat people and trannys. Both are awful for your health yet no one cares. Almost as if you’re not immune to propaganda that you’ve been raised on

>b-but my studies
Oh really? Which one in particular? Can you even name a notable Dr against smoking? Oh that’s right you only go by hearsay just like reverent followers of the Catholic religion who haven’t even read the Bible yet they trust every word that came from up high (the pope that is)

Anything in moderation is not harmful to you smoking is no exception, if you start to have negative effects from something cut back until there are no negative effects simple as that. Unless you have a monkey brain and can’t practice moderation and self control and to that I say there should be no laws pertaining to save these people because if others have to make sure you don’t gorge yourself on McDonald’s till you die at 30 or smoke like a freight train and develop respiratory failure it is not the responsibility of the community to keep you safe from yourself that’s your job as a human

>>15021753
>is not the responsibility of the community to keep you safe from yourself
That's your post-enlightenment individualism talking
But IRL it kinda IS the responsibility of the group to take care of the dumbest individuals
Statistically ~13% of the population has an IQ under 83, which means that not even the US military in wartime will let you join up
How I we supposed to keep those people from fucking themselves up and hence fucking up things around them

>>15021753
Alright ill take the b8 i don't care
>i wish non smokers had this much hate for fat people and trannys.
we do retard? literally every regular person hates fatties and trannies. I wont bother searching up a doctor that is against smoking since it is the same as asking "can you even name a notable Dr against chugging bleach" just use google brainlet and you will find it on your own. Tell me one doctor who is pro smoking instead.
>anything in moderation is not harmful
the difference with smoking and things like alcohol consumption for example is that a healthy individual can take a few beers without any major health damages. With smoling however, it does not matter how fit and healthy you are. Your lungs are not supposed to take in anything other than air and they get polluted by smoke.

Yes smoking should not be banned bc smoking retards should have the choice to kill themselves. At least we agree on something

I've got more girls from "hey do you have a light" or random girls walking up to ask me for a cigarette than with any other look.

A cigarette in my mouth just completes my look so well. It looks cool. And everyone thinks so.

>>15021753
I've been a smoker since 15 and even I can spot a hard cope when I see one.

Smoking makes you smell like shit, it makes your skin age faster, it makes your teeth and nails yellow and dirty, and doing it in the long-term will make you feel terrible even if you can't see any problems. I'm convinced its a contributing factor to my rheumatoid arthritis (since there is well-documented evidence that it increases your risk of the disease). Stop viciously defending your shitty habit, if you want to keep doing it, grow thicker skin you pussy.

its super effay, but only attractive people smoking makes it cool, ugly people smoking looks white trash

>>15021753
>I wish non smokers had this much hate for fat people and trannys.
Except I do. I hate them more than I hate smokers, because smoking is a hard habit to break and most people picked it up when they were stupid kids trying to look cool. It's still faggy, and as far from /fa/ as possible, but I get it. But seriously, man, stop using whataboutism to deflect criticism of your own bad habits.

>>15021753
I don't care if it won't give me cancer. Imagine I slow-walked in front of you cutting farts in your face and every time you walked in a city street you ran into me over and over again.

>>15022091
>is a hard habit to break and most people picked it up when they were stupid kids trying to look cool.

That actually describes a lot of trannies today.

>>15022094
To complete the analogy: the streets are covered in little nuggets of shit everywhere because the farters drop them on the ground instead of putting them in public toilets which are everywhere.
You see their shit every day and smell it every day and they expect you to be cool with it because it probably doesn't give you cancer.

>>15021773
Enlightenment is realizing being a good person is an active choice and there is no excuse good enough for you to slack up on your day to day life and “cut loose” because you’ve had a bad day, month, or years you always do good. And don’t give me any brass ring arguments everything you attain in life is meaningless and will not follow you in this after life but your actions will

>>15021792
>literally every regular person hates fatties and trannies.

Try any media or news outlet and they’ll tell you the opposite

>Tell me one doctor who is pro smoking instead.
Camel used to runs ads for this lol, but ok that’s not what you want to hear because you want your preconceived notions reinforced by whatever modern ad you saw saying something to the contrary

>Your lungs are not supposed to take in anything other than air and they get polluted by smoke

That’s why you exhale

>>15022007
>Smoking makes you smell like shit

Take a shower and don’t smoke indoors

>it makes your teeth and nails yellow and dirty

Stop smoking so much and brush your teeth twice a day

> doing it in the long-term will make you feel terrible even if you can't see any problems.
So cut back till there are no negative effects

> Stop viciously defending your shitty habit, if you want to keep doing it, grow thicker skin you pussy.

There’s nothing vicious about what I said and I really don’t care what anons on an anonymous Cantonese basket weaving forum say to my post that’ll be lost within 3 days

>>15022091
It’s not a bad habit because I have zero negative effects from it

>>15022094
Some people like the smell just like some people like the smell of braps as above so below anon

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based KING

>>15020974
projecting your insecurities hardcore

>>15023291
Not sure which insecurities you think I am projecting. I admitted to being a loner and a weirdo in that post.

>>15022927
>Some people like the smell just like some people like the smell of braps as above so below anon

I've heard pipe smoke smells good but the shit coming out of a standard cigarette is horrible and only a minority of you cig junkies pretend otherwise.

>>15023296
gonna be honest, didnt read either of your posts
just what i got from the first sentence alone

>>15023303
Lel, do you just stop reading and say "you're insecure" if you think something you won't like is going to come up in a medium-size post?
I mean I'm sure it works but it's lazy.

>>15022927
>Take a shower and don’t smoke indoors
As a smoker you have no idea how much it clings to you. I didn't realise until my gf kept pointing out that I smelled of smoke, and this would be from smoking outside in the wind, half an hour before meeting her.

>So cut back till there are no negative side effects
Nigga I just told you I have RA, some of those "negative side effects" are irreversible. You might not care what I have to say, but I'm not gonna let you promote bad ideas when all my experience points to the contrary

I dont smoke but loneliness and stress will kill me faster than any cigarette

>>15023347
if you're lonely its literally your own fault

>>15021124

Not him, but yes

>>15020960
man I am looking forward for the 25% price hike of cigs so all these smoking faggots go bankrupt

>>15023347
man the fuck up, go to the gym, get a hobby, start meeting people through that hobby or job

>>15023338
I’ve worked with plenty of people I didn’t know were smokers because they managed it so well, she probably tasted it on your breath if you were smooching with her

some of those "negative side effects" are irreversible

Well apparently to anti smoking ads all the side effects are reversible. You see if they said the contrary and said “some side effect are irreversible” less people would quit because it’s a moot point

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317956#timeline

> all my experience points to the contrary
Sample size of one is not credible

>>15023298
Pipe smoke does smell good, but you can get the same effect rolling your own cigs and mixing up different sprays to apply them with. Two of my personal favorites I’ll hand roll my cigs and before I roll the tobacco up I’ll mix water and mint oil in a spray bottle and spray the tobacco or I’ll do the same with vanilla extract

They smell heavenly

any recs for a brand for beginners
i tried parliaments and i felt like shit
American spirits hit too hard and pull like shit
trying to quit weed

>>15023743
Camel crush, probably the most entry level cig but a favorite to a lot of people

>>15023736
What about the sample size of all the people who have died from smoking-related deaths? Or the weight of evidence that shows smoking to be a contributing factor to the development of inflammatory and autoimmune diseases like RA?

It’s very obvious you’re only paying attention to the (slim) amount of evidence that justifies your habit, instead of the mountain of evidence that shows how incredibly stupid it is to smoke. That’s just bad intellectual practise, you’re letting your bias towards smoking contaminate your neutrality. No matter how many qualifiers you offer- don’t overdo it, brush your teeth regularly, etc.. these are all no different to plasters on a knife wound.

>>15020960
Nice cope nigger addict

>>15020960
Only pipes, cigarettes are for niggas.

>>15021984
Have fun with your disgusting low iq women

>>15023774
>What about the sample size of all the people who have died from smoking-related deaths? Or the weight of evidence that shows smoking to be a contributing factor to the development of inflammatory and autoimmune diseases like RA?

Because dear anon those who smoke in moderation don’t die from anything that heavy smokers do. Just like someone who eats fast food once a weak won’t die from obesity or someone who gets stressed every couple of weeks won’t have a heart attack. My original claim still stands anything in excess will be harmful, simply find a point to where it will not be detrimental to your health and set fourth. If you start to notice negative effects in the future apply the moderation principle again until there again is no negative effects

And it’s pretty obvious you have too much pride to actually look on the other end of the spectrum and would rather have an either or mentality on everything in your life, but like I said most people can’t practice moderation and maybe you can’t control yourself or your urges so why care about people who can or can’t?

>>15023794
You’ve never been to Europe then , most girls over there smoke and are bounds and leaps ahead of all these BMI of 37 American girls

>>15023798
If they smoke they are automatically retarded because smoking is bad for childbearing and overall health and appearance. Honestly it is pathetic if you can't pick up women without a cigarette.

>>15023810
I don’t base my value on if women want me

>>15023798
Are you from ex-Yu?

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>>15023797
>Trying to making smoking seem cool by posting old pictures of Chads doing it
This is exactly how neckbeards try to justify wearing fedoras

>>15023797
>Just suck on sticks of deadly chemicals in moderation, bro!

>>15020960
It's nasty, ages you and looks retarded.

>>15023813
Then don't use it as a reason to smoke

>>15020960
>haha yes smelling like ass and not being able to run a mile is one of my habits

>>15023906
First guy to break the 4 minute mile smoked daily

>>15023906
How about the guy with the current record? Thought so

>>15021773
13% eh?

>>15021792
I'm a doctor (psychiatrist)
On our ward we don't actively encourage patients to smoke, but are lowkey happy when they do go out for a fag - it encourages socialization and recreational activity (such as it is)

>>15023797
Do you have any evidence or studies that support your claim that smoking in moderation is harmless?

>>15023980
define harmless.
smoking temporarily raises blood pressure which improves cognition temporarily
smoking temporarily raises testosterone levels

sure the debris of burnt leaves and the toxicity of nicotine building up over the years can physically overpower the lungs but that's more of a failure of the overall system (people who are otherwise physically healthy live longer as smokers than those who are sedentary and obese)

smoking increases sociability and decreases social anxiety and awkwardness by providing something to do and distract you while meeting people

black and white thinking where something or someone is either "good" or "bad" misses the complexity that exists in our reality and makes you seem naive and provincial.

i've tried nic but i never get the buzz
hitting is always harsh on my lungs
i like sativa weed better

>>15024002
crackheads that do crack once a week are way better off then crackheads that do it everyday, your black and white world view is so naive

>>15024013
a nicotine buzz is a temporary alertness
a marijuana buzz is a temporary insanity

2 very different things
don't get them twisted

it's too stinky
gets in all your clothes, your hair
your insides smell like smoke
you turn into a big cigarette

>>15024022
>compares nicotine to cocaine
>posts friends meme
kys

>>15024036
i think you mean a smoked anchovie

Heroin is the way more effay, you faggot.

>>15024077
>laying around drooling
>high chance of accidental overdose
no

>>15024022
Unironically yes. A general rule of thumb however is the smaller the increment the thing must be in order to have no negative effects usually becomes diminishing returns. Also coca leaves are pretty good if you’ve ever been to Peru

>>15023980
There are none because every study conducted about smoking and negative effects were with daily smokers who smoked 1-2 packs a day

>>15024136
so...smoking in moderation is impossible to do by the majority of people

>>15023828
I’m not trying to do anything, if you think the guys in my pics are cool then you’ve proved my point either it’s.
>smoking isn’t cool but cool people do it regardless
Or
>smoking is cool and cool people do it because they enjoy it

And yeah neckbeards unironically get more girls than most people on this board because they have the confidence to wear what they want regardless of what others think. That’s true effay behavior

>>15024147
I believe I already said this in my first post yes

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>>15024151
OP is neckbeard fag confirmed

>>15023793
This

>>15024136
Then you’re not in a position to claim that moderate smoking is harmless. All you have are studies that highlights the risk facing heavy smokers, that doesn’t mean there aren’t risks to moderate smokers too. You’re using an absence/ignorance of research to justify your claim, but without evidence it’s just speculation.

>>15024112
Seems more like you are justifying you cowardice.

>>15021753
Wow, look. Its literally you.

>>15024394
So it’s a moot point and to say it’s just as bad as heavy smoking means you also have no bases in your claims and there’s no debate to be had

>>15024495
>caring about people with no impulse control
You’re right I don’t, just like I don’t care about people who get abortions. If there low iq enough to effectively kill off there bloodline by choice then their bloodline should not inherent the earth simple as that, unless you’re fine with the current trend of low iq people outbreeding every high iq person to the point that eventually the distribution will be a 99-1 ratio where the ignorant inherent the earth because the “smart” people just want them around because they can’t see past their own “morality” and realize they do more harm by enacting these laws to protect them from themselves

>>15024341
How’s that?

Real talk here,can I swap a cig with a lollipop?Will I look cool?

>>15024776
Sure

>>15024776
Worked for Kojak

>>15020974
I don’t fit in anywhere I smoke to get a dopamine hit knowing I’ll never feel love in my life
if it ‘looks cool’ to some people that’s not really my doing I don’t understand people

smoking isn't effay. especially so if you're a woman. but whatever floats your boat, and at least it isn't as faggy as vaping