/fa/ - Fashion

What's the deal with seiko chronographs? Are they better than 7750s?

>>15008631
1 year.

>>15008633
Well, the 8RXX has a vertical clutch and column wheel layout, which is technically superior to the horizontal clutch and cam actuation of the 7750.

On the other hand, the 7750 is an integrated chronograph while the 8RXX is a modular chronograph built on top of the 6RXX.

From a functional and wearing perspective I'd say the 8R is better because it will have smoother chronograph activation, no stutter on the starting and stopping of the chronograph, excellent crisp resets, and the chronograph module will have much better shock resistance.

But it isn't as pretty to look at, nor is it as easy to service.

Just ordered a Seiko SNK803 and plan to get a bunch of straps to change them basically daily.
Do I need a specialized tool like this or common stuff like needles and tweezers will do fine?

>>15008633
Just get a used speedy instead, get the ones people don't care about for the same price as one of those. They are even better than the old seiko 6Sxx movements some people like to gush about.

>>15008678
Spare yourself the trouble and buy a good tool with switchable tips, not the shitter tool you posted. The longer (pen sized) type is what you want.

But yeah, if you can't be arsed you can make do with other tools. Not really toothpicks and tweezers though, a detail (for electronics) flat screwdriver is usable for popping out spring bars from the side. For drilled lugs or bracelet adjustment any small needle or pin will do

>>15008678
>>15008771
Pic related is what you want

>>15008710
>get the ones people don't care about for the same price as one of those.
Uh most of the non MOTFM Speedys use crappy DD piggyback chronograph modules or modified 7750s, don't they? As far as I know only the MOTFM uses the 186x, no?

>>15008856
2892 with a module, sometimes. They have similar or better accuracy.

>>15008867
The problem with those isn't the 2892 part. The 2892 is an excellent movement. The problem is that the chronograph modules they put on top of the 2892 are disposable trash compared to the chronograph module on an 8R. Sure the 8R won't be as accurate in terms of the running time, but to my mind the chronograph functionality has to be central to judging a chronograph movement.

Fuck you i like it

>>15008999
bro...

>>15008631
hello boys author of poor faggot guide here

added casio edifice to guide, the one that came out in 2019 autumn in 40mm and 36mm

was wondering if anyone here owns one already, have a few questions and could use ur photo in the guide

cheers

/fa/ggots buy watches?

>>15009078
Ghastly

>>15009078
The designer of that watch needs to be assassinated

>>15008772
I can't even find replacement tips on sale, so what's the point if I'm going to order a new tool if it breaks anyway?

>>15008631
what watch is this

>>15009094
>>15009120
post ur watch

>all these watch ads on jewtube
these are annoying, especially the recycled watches with muh history

should I cop

>>15009357
You could, but the fact that it displays Arabic numbers on the dial and Western numbers on the date wheel seems like an oversight.

>>15009374
>>15009374
i was onboard with the watch too until you pointed that out, not him but thats something that would always bother me cause im autistic

>>15008869
Ok, in what sense is your seiko 8r or 6a better than the speedy reduced movement?

>>15009245
Looks similar to a Rolex Daytona panda, perhaps a homage to it

>>15009451
layout is different. subdials are located at 12, 9 and 6 instead of 3, 6 and 9

>>15009374
ok you just ruined it for me

>>15009374
fucking kek now it's Arabic number date English week day name

>>15008631
My first automatic

>>15009428
>Ok, in what sense is your seiko 8r or 6a better than the speedy reduced movement?
1) The 8Rxx chronograph movement is fully serviceable, covered in Seiko's technical guide for the movement, and each part in the module is available for order. The Dubois Depraz chronograph module on the Speedy Reduced is designed to be thrown away and replaced at service.

2) The 8RXX features both a vertical clutch for driving the chronograph function and a column wheel actuaction arrangement. Both are technically superior to the horizontal clutch and cam actuation used on the DD 2020 chronograph module.

That said, the 2892 is a much better timekeeper than the 6R, so the Speedy Reduced has the advantage for keeping the running time.

>>15009522
But the 8R movements are modular and will also probably get tossed out.
https://wornandwound.com/chronography-12-seikos-modern-mechanical-chronographs/
It's a 6rwhatever with stuff stapled to the back. That sounds like something for the 6s movements. But those are missing things you say the 8R has like the vertical clutch.
https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Seiko_6S78

anyone have a citizen promaster tough? I'm looking for a durable field watch with a simple design.

>>15009583
>But the 8R movements are modular and will also probably get tossed out.
No. Seiko's technical guide for the movement includes servicing the chronograph module and they sell all the individual parts for the chronograph module. The 8R chronograph module is designed to be serviced, the DD modules are not. There would be no sense whatsoever in putting a column wheel actuation mechanism in a chronograph module you intended to be disposable.

>But those are missing things you say the 8R has like the vertical clutch.
Yes. And column wheel actuation. Both are superior to the horizontal clutch and cam actuation on the DD modules.

>>15009593
Why would you pick "the button pushing is a little different" over accuracy? It's not like either movement is that pretty.

>>15009606
Because I feel like the quality and functionality of the chronograph mechanism should have primacy over the running time in a chronograph. You are free to have different priorities.

It's not just a matter of the button to activate the chronograph being a little smoother. The lack of judder on engagement means the chronograph timing is more accurate. The vertical clutch also makes it much more resistant to having the chronograph timekeeping affected by shocks or G forces on the movement. The column wheel and tripple pointed hammer give an instant and incredibly crisp reset on all the chronograph timing hands. These are functional improvements in the stop-watch features.

Due to functional considerations I still consdier the Omega Cal. 1045/Lemania 5100 the best mechanical tool watch chronograph movement ever made, at any price, and a 2892 will definitely keep the running time more accurately than it will too.

>>15009625
Do you value those bits of machinery so much that you'd say the chink venus is better than a speedy reduced? That definitely seems odd.

>>15009008
Why do you mostly concentrate on shitty generic everyday or dress watches instead of tool, field, or pilot watches?

>>15009647
Obviously quality of manufacturre and QC still makes a huge difference. The ST19 is a low-beat, unadjusted, horizontal clutch chronograph movement made as cheaply as possible with spotty QC. I'm not sure what relevance it has in the contex tof a discussion about the 8Rxx compared to 28xx movements with DD chronograph modules.

>>15009673
It has a column wheel which you used to justify the idea that the seiko is better.

>>15009685
Column wheel actuation is *one* technical aspect of a chronograph. It cannot be looked at in isolation from considering the type of clutch, the quality of construction, reliability, shock resistance, quality control, serviceability, etc. separately the extent of decorative finishing must also be considered where applicable.

Just FYI pic related is the inside of a Dubois Depraz chronograph modules.

Next person who talks shit about Seiko will personally get a visit from me.

>>15008633

Yes on the basis of the fact that seiko chrono movements don’t eat themselves alone.

>>15009706
The seiko looks like a 6r15. I now see the merits in the movement (it's still less accurate), but the omega still looks better to me. I mean, look at chrono24 and tell me you'd take a similarly priced seiko over a speedy reduced?
>>15009583

>>15009716
Based

>>15009625
>>15008710
>>15009583
Sauce on vertical clutches and column wheels being better? What should I pay for a Seiko chronograph?
Are the new seiko chronograph or older 6SXX better?

>>15009716
SEKIRO IS FUN

>>15009716
Holy fuck, dare I say, based and seikopilled.

Just got my submariner :)

>>15009078
Jesus in heaven wtf is that? Is this elobrate shitposting?

>>15009716
Seiko is for poor people and low test retarded weeaboos faggots.

>>15009756
You should have spent the money you paid for that fake on gym membership.

>>15009782
That's not his pic m8, that shit is old.

>>15009720
How come there isn't much buzz about them, then? It's not some anti seiko bias considering everyone loves the GS Snowflake

>>15009008
>casio edifice
Is that model the only acceptable one they have? The rest looks like dog shit.

>>15009744
It's in one of the replies. As with all non GS seiko watches, last generation movements are better than the new ones but have worse finishing.
I still say you should get a speedy reduced instead, but it's not like either are awful.

>>15009800
Shit outfit, goes well with her shit watch.

why is Casio so BASED?

What sub $500 watch looks most like a rolex datejust or daydate?

>>15009800
>no forearm hair
>nasty cutting scars

>>15009811
Bulova Super Seville

300 bucks
cop or not?

>>15009885
Go for it if your wrist is big enough only

>>15009885
It's really huge.

>>15009725
>but the omega still looks better to me. I mean, look at chrono24 and tell me you'd take a similarly priced seiko over a speedy reduced?
Now you are talking about aesthetics rather than technical merit or quality. Aesthetics are a matter of personal taste. There are plenty of Speedmaster models I like, in fact I happen to own one, but many Speedmaster models have aesthetics I like so there would be no reason for me to choose one with a DD chronograph module over other movements I find much more appealing like the Lemania 5100 or the Omega 861/1861/1863.

>>15009744
>Sauce on vertical clutches and column wheels being better?
For vertical vs. horizontal clutches you should read this thread by a pretty well known watchmaker: https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-vertical-and-horizontal-coupling.5539/

For column wheel vs cam actuation you can look at this: https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/articles/column-wheel

Keep in mind that while vertical clutches are strictly technically superior to horizontal coupline, there are times and places where cam actuaation in a chronograph can be a better choice than column wheel actuation. In Seiko's case, they have a long history of developing column wheel chronographs that are very robust and don't have the delicacy that some more high end column wheel actuated chronographs do.

>>15009885
Would've been nice if bulova remade the original watch exactly, even recreating the movement.

>be me
>get born into poorfag family
>they learn I'm into watches
>they make a big deal of getting me something special for my birthday
>they keep saving up for it for like 5 years
>I give up hope
>they finally give me the watch
>it's a fucking $1500 Tissot shitter
What the fuck do I do now?

>be me
>stop reading as soon as i read that

>>15009800
god damn look at those milkers

>>15009008
does that tick loud as fuck like a Timex?

I want a rolex from my birth year. But I am not a huge fan of that era watches, I prefer the 1950-60s watches. But should I cop this one? I don't like that it's ne of those generic style rolexes that look like it could be a fake.
tldr I wanna rolex from my birth year.

>>15009906
Is this a good price?
https://www.chrono24.com/seiko/brightz-phoenix-ananta-chronograph--id12732617.htm

>>15009954
man if it came with its original papers i would snatch it in an instant

>>15009954
We were born the same year. I like that one, but I like simple, understated styling.

>>15009916
Post a pic of it.

Thoughts on Mercedes’ 2020 challenger, lads?

>>15009954
I don't understand the whole year you were born in thing.

A vintage Rolex from a period you prefer.
Or a vintage Rolex you don't like but that just happens to be in the year you were born,

Makes no sense to me people go for the latter.

>>15008637
Can somebody explain the joke to me? What's wrong with a non-croc leather with croc graining? If you like the look but don't want to spend the money? But don't want it to feel like plastic either?

>>15009956
Hey look, it's the speedmaster you can get instead!
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-reduced-351050--id14233835.htm

>>15009916

You love them for doing their best to keep you happy, you fucking ingrate

>>15009944
hoping to get an aswer to this too

>>15009670
bro I added a shit ton of tool/field/pilot
reccomend some if you think they deserve to be on the guide

>>15009998
Rereading the poorfag guide. Thanks for the updates.

>>15009998
What's the link to the most recent poorfag guide? OP points to the old one.

need a navitimer lads. I NEED IT

>>15009916
Bro, a Tissot isn't a bad watch to get from your family especially if they had to save up for it. I've never gotten anything in terms of watches from my family and am sort of embarrassed to admit how much I've spent on watches to them if I'm being honest so them being supportive of your interests at all is a great thing.

>>15009982
>>15010095
Why would people that poor even have kids in the first place? I never got shit from them, I'm almost 40 and they can't even get me a decent watch, what the fuck kind of people are they. And now I'll have to wear it every time I visit. Fuck this gay earth.

>>15010108
Do you really think that a $1500 watch is indicative of them being poor? Are you smoking crack? $1500 is a lot of money to spend on something that is essentially useless outside of fashion and hobby purposes. It's one thing to complain that you don't have more of your own money to spend on watches, it's quite another to complain that someone else didn't adequately waste enough money on your useless ass.

>>15010116
He won't post pics, it's just bait posting

>>15009916
>>15010108
please be trolling. your family loves you. love your shitter because its from THEM you animal

>>15010116
How the fuck would I have my own money when I was born to a poor family in a poor country?

>>15010122
If they loved me they wouldn't have had me in the first place. Can you imagine your shitty boring bullshit American life where you just have some bullshit job you don't like that you don't really do anything on, but still get THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH being a literal unachievable dream life for someone? And you can have your own place or a place with roommates instead of living with your shitty poor family forever? Fuck everything.

>>15010135
Cool bait. Sell the watch and buy something else, now fuck off this thread.

lol, seething poorfags

>>15010108
40, and you whine this much?
Are you one of those eccentric loud annoying faerie types? You know the kind that people can't stand to be around, like Andy Dick.

https://youtu.be/lofSBVSHk98?t=405

Is it just me or does the one on the right look 100x better?

>>15009916
my family just got me a seiko

do you wear rings?
do you think watches and rings go together?

>>15009970
it will win 15-16 races, Lewis will tie Schumi for WDCs, and /f1/ will collectively commit suicide

>>15010245
Not many changes on the W11. The SF90-SF1000 looks like it hit the gym over the winter with how sculpted it is now.

>>15010210
Only marriages rings.

>>15010202
At least you know that it's a cheap shitter and they know it too, but this is something that they misguidedly bought as a "good" watch because of being too stupid and poor to understand how expensive good watches actually are.

>>15010127
You're saying that you're poor and born to a poor family in a poor country while complaining about getting a watch that's worth more than my car. Your poor family in your poor country got you a better watch than any watches my average American ass owns.

>>15010268
That's due to your own laziness and not circumstance, since you can become anything and anyone you wish in America if you only expend 1% of the effort everyone else has to.

>>15010277
How old are you? Post pic of the watch or you’re baiting.

>>15010277
>you can become anything and anyone you wish in America if you only expend 1% of the effort everyone else has to
yeah, man. all those menial workers making $40k from two jobs and a 60 hour work week while raising a family are lazy fucks. if they really tried, they'd be millionaires

>>15010277
Nobody respond to this faggot until he posts a pic of his watch.

>>15010277
You realize you have no fucking clue what you're talking about right? I know you have some internalized hatred of your country and your people, but America isn't some magical land of milk and honey. Socioeconomic mobility for people in the lower quarter of American wage earners is basically third world tier and for the second lowest quarter of Americans only 9% find themselves moving upward out of their income bracket within their lifetime. There are ways around this like not following the laws and working under the table, but if you're working in legal lower class work there is very little opportunity to be able to flourish to the point where even your Tissot isn't an insanely wasteful purchase.

>>15010278
Not that guy, I'm just saying that if you can't even afford a 1.5k watch in the best country in the world, there's something wrong with you.

>>15010290
>average wage in one country is $5000/month
>watch costs $5k
>average wage in a country is $400/month
>watch still costs $5k
And that applies to pretty much everything from electronics to clothes to food, everything except perhaps real estate, which everyone except rich people is too poor to buy anyway, is equal due to globalization and multinational companies, so...

>>15010299
Do you really think the average American makes $5000 a month? Are you smoking crack?

>>15010299
Why are you into watches when you’re such a poorfag? You’re clearly baiting, just post photos of the watch or fuck off.

>>15010302
Bro it’s bait. Pay no mind.

>>15010299
youre fucking based for baiting these poorfags lmao

>>15010302
60k is the exact amount of the average US wage, divide it by 12 and you get $5k/month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage

>>15010302
>>15010307
Assuming gross, that's only a salary of $60,000
The only way you'd get a job lower than that, is if you're a teacher or a bagger at a grocery store. Something that doesn't take much training and education, or something in a field that can't actually pay much.

Also, it says Average Wage a month. Not from one job or one person. A few passive income streams or another person and I would say that's probably about average. Otherwise why would anyone buy new cars? The numbers of people buying new cars, supports the idea the average person makes that much.

>>15010319
man you are so based, aside from that youre even smarter than these pieces of shits that think theyre hot shit

>>15010299
because all that is disposable income, right? i'd see a lot more Rolexes if buying luxury/status items were that easy

does /fa/ like some of my casios?

1/2

>>15010479
2/2

It's completely acceptable to shit on Seiko if you also recognize that fundamentally there are really good/reliable automatic movements in their line.

This is the most watch nerd photo there is. It's fairly reliably assumed that Norman wore a Seiko Pepsi on one wrist and a Rolex Oyster on the other. If the fucking commander of Desert Storm considered the pair suitable for time keeping whatever bullshit fills your day is managed acceptably by a Seiko. For extra bonus points Powell is in there with a Casio or Timex.

>>15010501
No one cares about your cope or Dessert Storm, faggot. Not everyone here is a military-worshipping Amerimutt.

>>15010507
based and truthpilled

>>15010507
Yeah okay Stormfag.
The "purity" of your white watches isn't under threat.
If people like Seiko's it's because they're good quality, aren't cheap pieces of shit, and look decent for their price points.

>>15010501
Why are Americans so fucking weird? Imagine thinking people care about desert storm lmao, what a fucking dweeb.

>>15010533
From a logistical perspective it was flawless. What do you want a watch for?

WIS's are the worst customers to talk to. 97% of them are window shoppers. They get into watches deeply because they can't afford the one they really want, so they go on the hunt for 'The Value Proposition'.
- hodinkee comment

>>15010609
And most of all, they’re boomers.

>>15010609
That's true. People who have money just buy shit and it's whatever to them.

https://youtu.be/TrCytso5pkc?t=471

Are there any better field watches than this, and if so, which?

So me and a friend go to the boutique of a local maker that basically does reproductions and homages of mid 1900s workwear and servicewear using premium denim and textiles from Japan and such.

One of their customers comes in with this piece and everyone is absolutely floored.

>>15010898

F.P. Journe Centigraphe Souverain chronograph in platinum

>>15010902
Fuckkkkk. Lucky you. I’d be immensely sad when men like François-Paul & Phillipe Dufour leave us.

>>15010898
>>15010902
Mogs everything itt.

>>15010902
Meanwhile this was all I had on. And honestly it is a great piece in its own right, but I even wouldn't dare to have it in the same room, much less compare it to an FPJ.

>>15010853
This one in 36mm

>>15010898
Nice cut numerals.

FEDERICO PEDERICO JOURNE
INVETORO DI FECALIS

Whats your dream watch /wt/?

>>15010919
Dufour Simplicity, if I ever get the chance. But I’m eyeing a ref. 96 Calatrava, that bezel on that thing is simple but gorgeous.

>>15010919
>>15010923
Zeitwerk Date for the German side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqsmWz9ox00&list=PLpXb65mY9NFyj7oVjdFmNd_TwB427kRJv

Does anyone else watch this guy's stuff? It's really good.

>>15010923
> Dufour Simplicity
Have you got girl size wrists? It's 34mm.

>>15010968
I have normal sized wrists not on the larger side though. And I don’t really care with that anglage.

>>15010974
You'll care when it looks like an M&M on the wrist.

>>15010980
I’m not really an overcompensating cuck that needs hockey puck sized watches so again, I do not mind it.

I'm the guy who bought a Dan Henry 1964 Panda a few days ago, I changed the order to the 3 subdial version. It arrived yesterday.

It's a really cool watch for a shitter and a great homage to that time period, I love it. Thanks for all who shilled it.

I gotta say though, the bracelet strap was a true pain to get in the lugs, but anyway. Thanks for reading my blog.

Is this watch effay?

>>15010991
You should write for Hodinkee.

>>15010996
It is, your cock is smaller than diameter of the watch you’re wearing.

>>15010937
> its a wholesome version of ac3
based

>>15010919
I’m sorry to say it, but AP Royal Oak blue dial. I just love it so much and it would fit my general style very well.

>>15011044
What reference? Or are you just one of those mongs who heard it said in nigger music

>>15011046
I’m not some fucking nerd who cares about references, I just want a watch that looks good on me. I only listen to early 21st century indie rock btw.

>>15011053
>Has dream watch
>Doesn’t know the specifics of it
Please do not reproduce.

>>15011055
I inderstand it must be difficult for you to run into a normal member of society on 4channel, but this is what we’re like.

>>15011071
Nigger it’s like saying Porsche 911 when asked what’s your dream car. There’s so many 911s and there’s so many ROs as well. You are a fucking brainlet.

>>15011074
Replying “911” to “what is you favorite car” would be an entirely normal and uncontroversial answer among well-adjusted people.

>>15011053
>I only listen to early 21st century indie rock

>>15011080
And when asked which 911, a year and model is a proper response not “I’m not a car nerd so I don’t care about that”. Fucking mongoloid.

>>15011084
“The latest one”

>>15011086
Tasteless pleb.

These personal attacks show very clearly that I won the discussion so I will not reply any further.

Give me the latest Patek Philippe I don’t care which one!

>>15010919
Full dream mode: custom pp5004 in stainless steel with a 3 tone silver dial like a vintage ref570 has.
Realistic: Probably a basic time only reverso, I know that is le reddit watch but was the first watch that I saw that I really liked.

>>15011097
Patrician. I’d be happy with a salmon-dialled 1518. Split-seconds make it too thick.

>>15010919

>>15011106
All the money in the world and he goes for a Seiko.

>>15010913
I have one. The lugs are kind of long, but if they were shorter the strap wouldn't pass through, I suppose. Good quality, the new ones have sapphire as well, which is good if you wear it daily. Does yours have the sapphire?

>>15011111
forgot no collection complete without the based GW-5000 gshock on a combi bracelet

>>15010919
Extremely boring choice but I really want one. If I were rich enough I'd pay over retail.

>>15011128
I remember the day that come out at Basel.

>>15010853
Citizen BM8180.

I bought a watch strap but it came with big rectangular holes like this.

Are there deployment buckles that accommodate these large holes? All I can find so far are for those dot holes.

>>15010093
>takes 20 minutes to figure out the time
it's shitter

>>15011142
Use your frenulum bro.

>>15009956
imagine paying over a thousand for a regular ass seiko

>>15011165
Imagine buying a Seiko

>>15011156
Based

>>15010919
15450 blue. I also like 5524g, various versions of 36mm DJ and DD, but if I had to narrow it down to one it would be AP, no doubt. I'd go for SS, but pic related is nice too

>>15011177
5402 for me if the Royal Oak. That crisp vintage text is just too nice.

>>15011142
Forgot pic.

>>15010609
>I'm a sales person and I find knowledgeable and discriminating customers more annoying to deal with than clueless dumbfucks I pawn overpriced shitters off on in a few minutes and collect comission.
No shit a fucking lazy greedy kike salesman would think that.

Ordered this cuz poorfag

Used to have a subC. How the Gods have fallen.

>>15010919
Maybe the best and most understated time-only watch available today.

>>15010093
I sell B.

I’d pass and go with a speedy.

>>15011209
Disgusting.

>>15010609
Well you're not wrong. But your entire industry exists because retards romanticize and unobtainium-ize your worthless products.

Without marketing you'd be in the streets and everyone would be wearing $10 quartz and smartwatches

>>15011213
Post yours then. We're all dying to see what it is.

>>15011209
>Muslim hand

>>15011209
Yo I saw this in solid gold at my store. Fucking stunning

>>15011221
LF Galet Micro-Rotor.

>>15011228
Yeah they do a rose gold version. It's hard to pick between that and the platinum.

>>15011231
That is a good watch but I don't understand how you can like that but not the Eichi

>>15010919
New? 37mm Dufour Simplicity in platinum (I mean, steel if he would do it in steel) with the enamel and roman numeral dial.

Vintage? Grand Seiko VFA 4580-7010 or an Omega Speedmaster 376.0822 aka 'the holy grail'.

>>15011237
The rose gold was beautiful. It looked very much like breguet though and he was looking at classiques. The spring drive in person is super impressive.

>>15010919

>>15010912
What did you pay for it and what would you pay for it used if you didn't have it? I'm not getting a straight answer for
>>15009956

>>15011239
Because fuck Japs.

>>15011240
>>15011249
>>15011259
>>15011231
Nice seagull homages

>>15009956
If you are looking for a good deal, this one is better for both being cheaper and less ugly:
https://www.chrono24.com/seiko/watch--id12521140.htm

Otherwise you can look at SARK005, SARk007, SARK009, SARK011, SARK013 which start from about $1,600 USD new from Japanese sellers.

>>15011124
I have the white dial 'air ministry' version with sapphire. I was just recommending the field watch to someone else because they're well made.

Rate my first piece

>>15011291
”PHUCKEN SHITTER” - Archibald Chesterfield the Third

>>15011291
The design is nice but 40mm is too big for that genre of watch and Seiko charges too much for them now.

>>15011291
I cant stand the crowns on those.

6.75/10 tho

>>15011296
>still following that sad pitiful man after all these years

grow up anon

>>15011327
Is he even married?

He does seem like a major loser.

>>15011343
He has a half-coronavirus son he gave a Patek to that he took back.

>>15011347
LOL

Who the fuck does that

>>15011347
>>15011390
To be fair, at least he isn't scamming people out of tens of thousands of dollars and shipping them fake Daytonas, which puts him a cut above most of the Australian YouTube watch community.

i wont stand for you clowns slandering THE archieluxury

>>15011390
Well the son was smarter than him. He gave it back and asked the fat fuck to invest it in some stocks for him instead.

I want one so bad bros

>>15011410
Was it a 5711? That’ll do better than any stock

Just bought these very cheap. I lked it.

>>15011424
Some cheap Calatrava. He has a video on it.

>>15011418
ew why?

>>15010919
No fucking clue. I'd love a GS Snowflake, GS SBGH269, Blue Milgoose, or a panda Daytona but I've never really looked much into anything beyond that ~$12k price point because even that is unreasonable for my means. Maybe there's something in the $40k plus range that calls to me but I've never bothered to research because that's just so far beyond my reach it feels like a waste of time.

i dont think i have the guts to drop over 10k on a watch even if i had the money. it's just not worth it.

>>15011442
the white dial is stunning

>>15011429
which orient is this and where is it cheap?

>>15011269
What's wrong with the looks on the seiko phoenix?

>>15010898
Doesn't even fit the wrist, what a waste.

Having a hard time deciding which one to get.

>>15011604
not gonna lie, both are ugly. you could find some better ones bro

>>15011429
Didn’t know orient did a Bauhaus watch. Looks nice but I prefer pic related

>>15011604
If you really have to choose between those two, then right. The metal indices on the left would probably look horrible irl and the red on it + bezel looks cheap. Right's design is more harmonised. Crown + crown guard looks good to me too.

>>15009954
I dont care if he has a million 100% positive feedback, I dont buy luxury watch without its original papers.

>>15009374


Hahahhahaahahah omg the numbers we use everywhere are arabic you fucking idiot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

>>15011604
Unimatic makes some really well constructed tool watches. Never really had much experience with Scurfa but I know the few times I've seen Unimatic in person they've generally been impressive for their price point.

>>15011617
>that date placement

>>15011604
Are you just trying to be different?

>>15011765
The build quality is what worried me the most about the Unimatic. I thought it might not actually be built to function as a tool watch. It's probably the one I will go with.

>>15011832
Nigger didn't even bother replying to me.

>>15010919
an rolex

>>15010919
Lange & Sohne 1 Tourbillon Handwerkskunst

>>15008999
D:<

>>15011877
The open dial to showcase the tourbillon makes it worse.

>>15011604
Just get a Seiko dipshit.

>>15011885
You'd rather have the tourbillon hidden?

>>15011604
Get the Unimatic. They look good and you'll be able to sell it if you want something else.

Picked it up for a song used actually.
About $900 for just the unit only, but it has quite a lot of wear. Need to get it serviced so it's sort of a project piece.

>>15011618
Thanks for the advice. The Scurfa has other color dials but I really don't like the name.
>>15011906
I intend to get it now. Since they are made in limited quantities, resale value seems to be good if I end up wanting to get rid of it.
>>15011887
No.

>>15010919

>>15011692
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Arabic_numerals

pedant pls

>>15011897
Yes

>>15010919

>>15011957
How do you show off your powerlevel then?

>>15011877
am i the only one here who dislikes the look of ALS watches?

>>15011969
It looks like it's something else, but it actually works

>>15011832
I mean, it's not going to be completely indestructible but I think they are competitively rigid for most normal use. My buddy who owns a unimatic u1-em wears it to work on diesel construction equipment and he's never had a problem with it. The thing with tool watches is that it just all depends on your intention. If you're underwater welding you might want something more skookum but that's generally going to be quartz like a G-Shock or an MTM or something.

>>15011977
Sounds like it will be perfectly fine. Thanks for the help.

>>15009800
cute, anon. hope you two are happy

>>15010919
a silver version of pic related

>>15011969
I can understand not liking that one. The asymmetric dials especially are not for everyone. But not liking *any* ALS?? Not possible.

>>15011877
call it cope but letter cufflinks, initials on shirt in a place where you see it constatly plus poorly stitched and that fucking horrendous watch does not scream class to me

>>15012039
everything about that is so perfect except for the inverted display

>>15012051
agreed. i'd definitely want a positive display on a silver one. i wish casio would take a fucking hint and and make the b5000 in a wider variety of colors and finishes. because its easily the best watch they've made in decades. one with a finish like pic related would be ideal.

>>15011418
Thats just "not bad", only really desirable because it has the Rawlecks logo. Get a GMT M-II.

>>15008999
fucking checked

>>15009151
You get the replacement tips when you buy it bud

>>15011271
The Everest is almost exactly what I want in a watch. I've always loved the old numbered Explorer but the cost is bonkers and the acrylic dome is simply unreasonable in a current watch. How is the accuracy of the movement?

>>15011284
The older 36mm (and old number style) is one of my favorite watches of all time.

>>15011291
I love it but I agree with >>15011304. If it was 36-39 it would be perfect, it's a FAT 40 and it just looks wrong. This fad of the huge watch is going to slip away sooner rather than later, it's already happening with high budget dress watches.

>>15011418
The ExplorerII is the hideous. Co-worker has one and it looks as bad IRL as it does in photos.

>>15012099
Agreed, don't really see the appeal of Explorer II. Shouldn't even share name with the original Explorer

>>15012099
>>15012118
Meh, the pre-maxicase Explorer II is pretty nice. Also the light dial makes it super legible due to reducing crystal glare.

>tfw getting into cars and car modding
>mfw no more play money for watches and stuck with current collection

at least i got some good ones in before getting into another money sucking “hobby”

>>15012162
Watches and cars aren't hobbies, they're consumerist activities. You have to actively engage in something for it to be a hobby, you are now basically just buying and collecting shiny things like a jew.

>>15012178
>You have to actively engage in something for it to be a hobby
>Cars aren't a hobby

Do you want to know how I know you don't know a fucking thing about either watches or cars? Working on cars is a pretty serious hobby that involves quite a lot of both engagement and physical activity.

>>15012184
Yes because people who say their hobbies are cars and watches are purely car mechanics and watch makers

>>15009767
>poor people
oh wow literally me
which Seiko would you recommend?

>>15012187
I don't know a single person who says their hobby is cars that doesn't work on their cars. I work on my three cars all the fucking time and I'm barely even involved in the local "car scene" beyond having put coilovers, and performance brakes and wheels o the car. As far as watches, yeah definitely most people who collect Rolex's don't work on their watches but modifying watches is the whole fucking point behind the Seiko scene that eventually turned into the microbrand community. The whole point of microbrands is to support people who are trying to turn the hobby into a career.

>>15012142
A 40mm polar explorer 2 with the current orange gmt hand would be the only one I get.

>>15012202
Lol I love how triggered consoomers get

>>15012178
That depends on how someone approaches them. People who just buy things aren't really engaging in a hobby, but most of the real watch autists I know at least tinker with their watches and spend a lot of time learning about and discussing watches, and for me the core of most hobbies i have is learning waaaaaaaaaaaayyyy to much about a subject.

>>15010919
1815 chrono

>>15012215
>current orange gmt hand
Ah but then you can't do the albino GMT mod.

>>15012216
I'm not triggered you're just being a dick and insulting people for no reason. There are tons of people who are into watches who are highly consumeristic about it to an unhealthy degree, but when you insult people over their interests (especially when it's obvious that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground) the only result is you looking like an asshole.

>>15011957
>Purely aesthetic complication which offers no functionality whatsoever and is just cool to look at
>hidden

>>15012241
B&RP
The non tachy version in gold + silver dial is my all time grail

Give me aesthetic looking watches with assymetric dials.

Hey guys I have this watch but the battery died how do I take it apart to replace the battery

>>15012309
Throw it in the trash where it belongs.

>>15011418
the black dial explorer is unironicly the only rolex worth wearing from an aesthetics point of view

>>15012324
>no grape oyster perp

>>15012300

>>15011231
literally the greatest case ever made

>>15012339
That's neat looking, any chance there's a more American style version of that?

>>15012319
bad

>>15009805
t. poofter

https://www.jomashop.com/orient-mako-3-watch-ra-aa0004e19b.html

Kamasu green dial is $210 on jomashop boys

>>15012339
Got anything in normal person's price range?

>>15009008>>15008631
>https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Casio Edifice EFV-110D / EFV-100D
>$70

Casio MTS-100D is a better choice. At roughly the same price you're getting Miyota 2S60 movement and a sapphire crystal. The only disadvantage is WR50 instead of 100 and no screw-down back, but you don't need to care about the latter too much, considering that the movement has 10 years of battery life. And it gets bonus points for not having a huge Edifice logo.

>>15009916
>What the fuck do I do now?
kill yourself for being a piece of shit. Your family would be better off

>AP
>RO
>platinum
>skeleton
>tourbillon
>limited to 40 pieces
>still less expensive than some richard mile models
why is this allowed?

>>15012436
if anon actually kills herself you would be charged with manslaughter

>>15012093
It's pretty accurate compared to my seiko shitters. But I believe the everest has a miyota movement while mine has an ETA.

>>15010479
I like the silver one more. Less tacky, less text on the dial, and the glass should be mineral instead of acrylic in the gold one. Shame that the case is still plastic.

>>15010483
Casio Royale is great. I just wish that it had a more readable analog display.
I don't recognize the green one, but it looks like "if F-91W tried to become a G-Shock"..

>>15011767
Still better than 4:30.

>>15012438
Richie Mille spends too much on advertising. I think in F1 alone they’re on six or eight cars/sponsoring three or four teams. Got to pay for that somehow.

Anyone know what kind of watch this is

>>15012484
Carteeyey Tank.

>>15009978
It looks like he cut a piece of polyurethane from his gimp suit and forcefuly nato'd it around the lugs, making it look like a 'croc'k of shit.

>>15012235
The most I've ever done was replace the glass or replace a quartz battery, does that count?

>>15009978
It’s calling a faux croc strap “proper leather” like how is it proper if it’s fake croc and especially if it looks like that.

>>15012438
Because people buy RM to show others how rich they are.

People buy AP's like that because they want to flex on other watch bros.

>>15010286
To be honest, I'm 29 and I make $44/hr, own my own house, and only have a high school diploma.

>>15009954
Is that Rolex worth $3,300 and is it even real, what with no original papers?

Any info on that ebay merchant vividlily?

>>15011604
Unimatic

>>15009916
Please hang yourself. Your family would be better off.

>>15012426
I'll mention it. What does the miyota 2S60 have going for it?

>>15012584
> is it even real
it's ebay, the risk is always high. however it's not an obvious fake.

> Is that Rolex worth $3,300 ... what with no original papers?
That model with box and papers would certainly go for $4k-$5k. So the price seems about right for a naked example.

>>15012634
Where would you recommend buying one like that online with its og papers?

Should I bid again? >:-)
jk that watch is so hideous lol

>>15012628
You don't have add it just because I mentioned it. It's your list, so do whatever you want with it.
>What does the miyota 2S60 have going for it?
As I said,
>10 years of battery life
Apparently, such long battery life is fairly uncommon in analog watches (not counting solar meme watches, which have their disadvantages).

>>15012639
chrono24 and then filter for box+papers. if you're lucky there will be one in a brick&mortar store near by.

>>15012662
>Apparently, such long battery life is fairly uncommon in analog watches (not counting solar meme watches, which have their disadvantages).
Forgot to add:
>and finding one that combines long battery life with a sapphire crystal is even more difficult.

>>15010996
it's more /fag/

>>15012436
>>15012625
Stop samefagging and give real advice if you have any or shut up.

>>15012678
I mean, 3 years is a fucking long, long ass time and battery changing is such a simple and easy process that literally a child could do

I think it's fucking nasty ugly watch but I'll throw it in, maybe it's what someone is looking for

>>15012785
>I think it's fucking nasty ugly watch but I'll throw it in
You don't have to add things that you don't like.

Explorer 1 is the best sports watch you can get right now.

Does it make any sense to buy a luxury watch as a conversation piece and cost of entry to mingle with watch people (socially and for business) or are watch people losers?

>>15012803
alpinist > explorer

>>15010259
poorfag doesn't have a family sigil ring, kek.

>>15012407
Poorfag get out

Is there anything sub-1000 that can provide the versatility of a Datejust? I'm mainly looking for those huge luminous indices that make it extremely versatile without getting an ugly diver.

>>15012808

It's retarded to drop 10 grand on a luxury watch when a better approach would be to ask someone about their luxury watch.

People like talking about themselves more than about you.

>>15012696
Perfect cause I'm a girl so I was looking for a small watch.

What's the general consensus of this watch?

>>15012887
It's actually strangely worth the $100-300 they want for it, just know that it only looks good in blue or natural light, in yellow everything looks like trash even the hands

>>15012808
You're not going to mingle with the upper class based on your watch, you're going to do it based on where you spend your vacations, where you play golf, what schools your kids go to, and so on.

>>15010299
Not true at all. There are pretty wide price variations for many items. This is the reason there is a grey market. Goods destined for a lower prices market sold illegally in a higher prices market. I worked for a company for years that exclusively moved items around the globe based on local pricing.

>>15012873
>Not being a britfag
Yup, totally "poor"

>>15012725
I did give real advice. He was a real cock sucker.

https://youtu.be/7Hy9MValO94?t=717
https://youtu.be/7Hy9MValO94?t=717
https://youtu.be/7Hy9MValO94?t=717

So this Speedy water resistance thing isn't even a meme? I wanted to get it as my "one watch collection" watch, but if you can't even get it wet, fuck that shit. What should I get instead?

Make a new watch thread, I am over the thread limit.

>>15013125
>>15013125
i made a new thread you lazy fucks

>>15012309
The back probably pops off, look for a slightly raised area around the edge of the caseback.

I have a giant protruding wrist bone. Am I supposed to wear my watch on top of it, or pulled forward right at the base of my palm even if that watch will sit proud and not lay flat. Or is it okay to wear lower on my wrist below the bone?

About to cop this dope fucking baby-g so I can rock a square on my baby 6 inch wrist.

If I buy a vintage King Seiko quartz will it keep decent time assuming the module is in decent condition? These things look great but I won't bother if they will loose 20 min a day or something.

>>15013572
I had a vintage Type II and it kept pretty much perfect time, the King Quartz has a more advanced movement so should be easily as good.