/fa/ - Fashion

i have an art hoe friend, who i have fucked before. to be fair, we knew each other since high school

I don't get why would anyone even want these shit tier women as their gf

this is a pathetic fixation why specifically ARE PEOPLE ON THIS BORED REALLY THIS TYPE OF GUY WHERE THIS ART HOE MANIC PIXIE DREAM GIRL things is all you guys talk about.

>>14990450
this. I hate women but the pathetic men who lust after these whores are worse

Nice incel thread

this is bad advice the only reliable way to get a hoe like this is give her free coke

>>14990404
>Just remember, women are stupid creatures inferior to men, and they dont really know what they want, and if you are manipulated by them, you are worse than a fag or a nigger!
Very based.
For any oxygen waster lurking this thread, know that I am clean shaven, 5ft9 and pretty misogynistic, yet I've rejected dozens of these bitches. It's not your lack of tattoos, you're just a fucking dweeb, like this >>14990562 faggot.

>>14990573
I hate this advice because coke makes getting an erection harder so there isn't even a point in doing coke with them

>>14990587
Imagine being 5’9” and calling people oxygen wasters lol

>>14990562
>>14990587
umad bro?

>>14990562
umad bro?

>>14990590
true, this has been the storyline for the last 3 times i did coke. Bring weed instead usually works anyway

>>14990598
largest penis in the world is on a 5'9 man
cope dicklet lankie

>>14991035
HAHAHAHA

>>14990404
as if arthoes like tatted guys with beards >.>

>>14990404
What motivated you to post this?

Also,
>basing your entire style (tattoos included) around your desire to trick an internet meme archetype of a girl into liking you

>>14990450
You don't gf them dude, you fuck with them for a while and leave. Or they leave you. Either way, you won't be with them long term.
People are just into it because they love being degraded and let you do whatever the fuck you want with them. It's both disgusting and hot.

>>14991191
Now ask yourself: would you feel pride in such a relationship?

>>14991205
Yes but only while it's still alright to be in such shitty relationships. Being 30 and still doing that shit would be depressing.

>>14991086
>>14991190
you mad brahs? You definetly seem mad brahs

>>14991035
That's not you though, is it? You're just short

>>14990404
The bearded tattoo'd types are the only ones thirsty enough for art hoes. Don't go there op they only break your heart

>>14990450
Art hoes are literally just hoes who can't even make art nor have the ability to make anything either other than look good in a selfie

so you write out a paragraph of bullshit you have to do/be to possibly attain one and then claim you're a fag if you get manipulated by them?
do you not see the irony?

>>14990404
Basically, become a male art hoe?

An art bro?

>>14990404
This guy knows.
Worked for me many times on Tinder.
Scoring as an artsy twink. Fuck tattoos tho.
And yeah don't expect a relationship

>>14990404
>stop making these threads
>made this thread
consider suicide

>>14990450
this 100%
it's like you fuckers want to get stds

>>14991838
Why do you think people are mad this thread is true comedy

>>14991208
What is the difference between being in that kind of relationship when you're 30 or when you're 22? They're both a waste of your life so why bother?

>>14990587
>5ft9 and pretty misogynistic
Figures, lol.
>I've rejected dozens of these bitches.
Sure.

>>14992135
>this 100%
>it's like you fuckers want to get stds

>Get sex
>Die
There is no losing with STD's desu, sign me up.

>>14990404
This entire thread is hilarious. Everyone bypasses OP’s message to brag about that one time they touched an art hoe’s titty, just like in every other art hoe thread. Men are sad creatures. I genuinely feel bad for you people

>>14992141
You seem even more mad now brah

>>14990404
being able to fuck an arthhoe is a status symbol and nothing more. Most of the time they’re all boney and it hurts, and they’re all fucked up, no loyalty, ect. They exist to obtain like a higher level unlockable

>>14992251
if you put it that way
you changed my mind

cool. I skate, make music, don't dress like a normie and like some meme bands these art whores like. still no gf.
I think it's becasue you missed: they still only fuck white tall chad

also fuck all women

>>14990450
This

>>14990450
/thread

Gib arthoe gf

>>14990450
This is very true. At least set your aim for someone who passed college

>>14990450
>Hurr durr u can't date art whores!1
>Not using them as your personal cumdumpster
Imagine being absolutely bottom tier beta male

>>14992589
The beta picks the weakest targets
You just don't think, do you?

>>14992589
>bargain bin gf
>"Beta male"

>>14992589
The alpha impregnates the girl. The best girl he can find. And then raises those childs.
Not fuck cheap whores, get STDs and maybe pregger one by accident.

>>14992113
wtf is an ''art bro'' ? post one

>>14992699
>And then raises those childs.
Imagine being this naive
Alphas are busy impregnating other women while betas care for children with the women

>>14992589
if you gf one you're spending money and more impotantly time on her

better off to fuck and do stuff you personally find enjoyable

>Download hinge
>Start chatting to a first year artsy girl in her first year of study of the arts
>Start face timing eachother, agree on a date to meet
>Live like two miles away from eachother, hit it off really well, holding hands and holding one another close
>Visit the vintage market in Shoreditch(artgirls LOVE vintage markets)
>Go to an miniart gallery where she puts her name down for commission, hype starts building
>Walk around for a while and eventually go to a bar in central London
>Buy her a drink
>As we start talking find out that her old bf was 26yo who proposed to her new years
>She declined but only because it wasn't feasible, she said she still loves him
>She acknowledges that it will never return to how it was
>Give her some beta as fuck advice
>Eventually just tell her that I'll help her move on
>Ask to kiss her, we start kissing gently, soft, soft kisses
>She goes and buys me a drink (cancels out)
>start kissing some more
>Decide to go home on the way home we were on the central line, I was standing there with one wire in my ear, the other in hers, I hit shuffle and a song we both knew came on, she danced and smiled and she looked so happy, she placed her hand on mine and kissed me for the first time, not me kissing her but her kissing me
>That was a magical moment for me
>Tell her im glad I had such a nice night
>Next day tells me that shes extremely confused and conflicted
>Starts to ghost me
>Start going beta mode and trying to convince her to see me again, I miss her
>Why is this the end, why can't this be the beginning
>Shes in a state of emotional flux
>Last message she sent me was shes busy until Sunday(tomorrow)
>I asked her to call for just five(5) minutes
I really miss her bros I know its a shitshow and full of redflags but id like to see her again, I miss her kisses. I just hope she tells me how she feels tomorrow so I can finally go home, Im tired of writing shit poetry and note books but the pain and loveache , such literary inspo

>>14992741
R u a meme?

>>14992741
gay

>>14992741
She still ''loves'' her ex and doesn't want to speak to you anymore because of it.
You need to just move on
or
you can just go to her house and say ''IF I CANT HAVE YOU NO ONE CAN!! REEEEEE!!!!'' and then stab her to death!

>>14992757
>>14992760
>>14992764
Its obvious that she still loves him, painfully obvious that she hasn't gotten over him, she kept looking away with her azure blue eyes but for a moment she told me she felt calm near me, and if my im right shes either developed feelings for me or completely detached herself
besides I haven't got much to lose and I regular let myself cry like a child through catharsis, I write it down then compress it into poetry which I am currently compiling into a anthology. I don't know why but it all makes sense to me
Besides if I seduced her once I can must obviously seduce her again and crush that arthoe pussy worst thing that happens is that she'll leave me sad for like what two days? Life moves on and I don't have time for her, most likely by the time summer ends I'll be moving and nothing will be sustained

>>14992798
Presuming this isn't masterful bait, take it from someone who has made this mistake before (on both sides of the issue). She isn't over her old relationship. Don't take it personally. This is too fresh for her to be able to reasonably commit to something. She does like you, but it isn't going to end well if you try to force something out of this. She didn't have to be lying about anything she said for this to still be a terrible idea, which is why she's pulling away. Lots of other fish in the sea bro. Sometimes people meet at the wrong time. Don't go beating yourself up over it. Lotsa arthoe qts out there

>>14992815
Its not just that, what repressed pain I have that I let go each time I experience something new, despite my best judgement I still go forward in hopes of some semi casual tryst, with a girl with a broken heart. I don't want commitment I just want exclusiveness, I want atypically romance and I want close to me.
I haven't messaged her since and until the end of time or until she messages me, I won't send a message,which may be bringing an unfortunately dull end to this romance.

>Lots of other fish in the sea bro
>Lotsa arthoe qts out there
I've cast my net wide Anon, I won't beat myself up over this I just don't want it to end like this

be alt chad. dress alt chad.

>>14992741
if she'll cheat with you she'll cheat on you. You seem like a really good guy anon, you're better than her and better off finding someone who actually deserves your sweetness. I believe in you man, your date sounds wholesome as fuck.

>>14992886
No in reality I am a humongous narcissistic, being born with Aspergers was okay, but a dysfunctional family and a broken cynical heart of my own at 15 mean't right now all I do is thing selfishly, 4chan gave me alot hatred but getting laid helped alleviate some of that. if I had define myself in the most autistic of terms I would say im a hedonistic-stotic, I understand terms of life as what they merely are, its just flesh and feelings but as my own beast I control myself just to enjoy.
I should I mentioned that she broke up with him and that its her ex-bf so its fair play for me and for her, to be together, both of us are still young and we've got studying but until then its all good. Doubt shes as wholesome as she seems told me she tried some pretty noxious drugs (which she said was a mistake) and almost ended the date then and there but eh who cares, it'll be volatile half-life of 2 months if we truly got together but the best intense two months I need

>>14992737
are you a cow?

>>14990404
Tattoos are a turn off.

>>14992865

>>14992741
damn bro thats gay as shit
dont know what youre thinking youre doing, since even if she left her first guy for you then she will most likely do the same to you down the line
tell her to be with the guy and move on

>>14992798
hahahahahahahahahaha

beam_me_up_softboi

>>14993096
Say what you will, he still got to snog a actual female unlike you

I fuck art hoes as a button down wearing, basic bro dressing, tattoo less, classical music listening, boring lifestyle living, normal dude because I'm good looking and actually make art. They are easily intimidated by true intelligence and passion because they are, and are surrounded by, complete posers

>>14993481
>actually make art
Are cum tributes really art tho?

>>14992942
>mfw i witness
>alt. chaddicus braddicus

>>14993240
>he still got to snog an* actual female unlike you
No need to project your autism sonny jim, I have a girlfriend lmao

>>14992741
Find another girl (or three) and start boning and then when you're with her tell her you only want something casual. Keep her at arm's length and make sure to pull/push her a bit so she's constantly into you and wanting your approval and you're reciprocating mostly but pushing away enough for her to always want to come back for more. Play her game, by your rules and win the game. Don't go beta mode and fuck it up. Desperation is the biggest turn off for girls. Play it cool, know the situation and know your place. She LOVES someone else, so don't fall for her like an absolute meme. If you want her around it's going to have to be casual cause that's what she'll want so she can be one foot in the door, so to speak. If you keep her one foot in for a while she may come around and want to be with you, if she gets over her ex. She probably won't. Circumstances clearly point for you to follow my advice or end up crying in the shower. Your call.

>>14992798
jesus christ this is the faggiest thing I have ever read I don't know if you're a genius with language or actually legitimately this much of a poof.

>>14992699
>And then raises those childs.
Congrats, you fell for the chivalry beta faggism meme. Kys.

>>14994266
Yeah idk why but I just imagine myself and her, lying down together both crying about our broken hearts, and the solidarity we blankly find in one another, knowing it would never last, confusion and calamity at the idea that we just met eachother too late, I could've been the one that she loved but know her heart is taken and I'd never be there, and thats fine, I don't love her, I won't despite any visceral pang I have in my heart whenever I kissed her. Its an odd feeling having this emotion for someone I have such disdain for, falling for her is immensly retarded, but its the only way I'll enjoy myself, to hold her long slender body, to kiss her smiley eyes, to tell her it'll be okay. To watch her happy for just a second before its extinguished by the pain of remembrance. If she doesn't want me know thats fine, I'll be rid of her one way or another, its deadweight that keeps me going. She said she felt guilty for kissing me, she stops herself being happy, but shes gorgeous and worth the panic. When I go back to university they'll be someone there I haven't met yet who'll take her place, there always is. Its just a angsty edgy romantic storm , but im a passionate person who just wants to enjoy my finite life

>>14990404
Just be Chad.

>>14993496
Kek

>>14992336
pretty much accurate, I wanna end up with one just to cross it off my bucket list

>>14992942
still a shitskin tho

>>14994281
for intelligent animals like humans spreading your genes is only half the story. Teaching your kids is the other part of making them YOUR offspring.
>making a child and then let someone else ruin it
ISHYGDDT
Fucking beta males everywhere who do not understand fundamental biology. Go back to /r9k/ and seethe. Or search for your daddy.

Lol breh imagine altering your looks and lifestyle to get women. I've gone out with and piped a few arthoes in my day, am clinically autistic as in genuinely on the spectrum, and for half of that time I dressed like sheldon from big bang theory(pre/fa/). How? By literally just talking to a girl if I find her attractive and trying with all my aspie might to relate and empathize with what's she's saying if I find it relatable. Also pls leave the incel women hate in /r9k/ breh. For people who claim to hate gays yall seem to talk way too much about "twinks" and masculine men, and then about how "inferior" women are to men.

>>14992250
not him,but you are a pretty sad human being,you refuse to believe a man's words who have no intentions other than bettering yourself and instead try to bring him down so you can reject any possibility of revising your hedonistic ideology about life

>>14990404
very incel-y post

Amtrad tattooed and bearded musician here.
In my experience the only guys who can acquire arthoe gfs are successful good looking men, having the random fuck is one thing, but if you want to nail one down (honestly,why would you actually want that) you have to go chad.

>>14990450
Based

>>14994790
women are factually hypergamous whores, no matter if you hate them or not

>>14992942
objectively not alt chad in any way whatsoever. not even alt. just some mutt that probably likes SoundCloud (aka normie) rap

>>14994869
this. you also have to not be into hip hop, because all hip hop is normie zoomer and not arthoe or alt

>>14994887
wrong

go to a jpegmafia show and you won't even be able to count the art hoes

>>14990404
kill all women
fucking whores

>>14990404
>E-girls and arthoes are like pitbulls, lots of fun, but will chew your face off if thats your first dog, same way as they will break your heart and fuck you up mentally if they are your first girlfriend
Fucking true. I had one obsessed with me for a little over a month and once we started “dating” for two weeks I could tell she wasn’t ready and then pulled that “ever since I broke up with my ex I decided I don’t want to date anyone” bullshit.

>>14994937
based

Art hoes are overrated af. They barely know art anyways, they just happen to really like one certain artist, style, etc. They can be clingy af if you’re understanding of them but also normal enough to potentially offer a way out for them. In the end though, they’re just not worth all the headaches and potential STIs you could get. Also, they’re not even good at sex even though they been with a shitload of men and women. They have so many fucking daddy/mommy issues and food disorders, etc. Do not recommend them guys.

Get yourself a normie girl and just introduce her to art.

>>14992424
what do you look like?

>>14995137
you want me to describe myself lookswise? because I won't post a pic

>>14994887
This is completely false you are so out of touch buddy

>>14995192
yeah describe yourself, or i can add you on snapchat. I won't screenshot and i'll show u my face if that makes me more trustworthy.

>>14990590
>viagra

>>14994879
Imagine seething this hard because someone else is piping that ramona flowers look alike instead of you.
There are less adult female virgins than male virgins, but in terms of voluntary virgins I would bet my left nut that there are significantly more volcel women than men. You also don't find a self respecting chaste wife by hating all women, if she has any wits about her she'll sniff out that baggage and dump your ass like hot garbage.

>>14992741
LMAO you are a such a massive beta pussy its great. Its great because reading this made go back in time to when I was 18 and did all the same type of stuff. You'll figure out how to move on and you'll figure out how to be more "chad" but cringey moments are just part of the experience. I believe in you anon because I did it and I had many friends over the years from various niche-nerd communities and I've seen them do cringier shit and then grow out of it and succeed with women.

>>14995232
6 foot tall, black mid-long hair, light olive skin and green/hazel eyes.

I still don't know for what you'd need to see a picture of me for? if you give me a reason I will add you on snapchat

>>14995539
how high can you ollie and what's your feeling on traps anon?

>>14995556
2 boards (I didn't say I was good at skateboarding)
I'm bi but only sexually attracted to some men(kinda picky) but not romantically. with women it's the other way. so yeah, traps are right in the middle for me. I guess you are trans or a trap?

>>14995580
femboy who is either gonna be a twunk or a girl by the end of the year.
misread that & thought you said you were black lol.

>>14995605
kek, yeah I actually wish instead of being brown

>>14990450
I just want to fuck them

>>14995580
>>14995605
begone

>>14994725
>Teaching your kids is the other part of making them YOUR offspring.
Teaching has little to no effect on how someone turns out. Most of who you are is genetic.

>>14992067
my dicks bigger than yours though

>>14996581
socialization is a big part of the process of child development. the problem is that most of it happens outside of the family environment, which you as a parent have no control over. but yes, genetics play a large part as well.

>>14996626
Socialization is not a part of development. Your development is indifferent to whether you socialize or not. Being naturally outgoing will put you out, being a natural fag will keep you in, you can't influence that and everybody hates fake it till you make it larp niggers.

>>14996637
i dont think your retarded opinion can disprove decades of psychology, but okay anon

>>14996712
Oh, nice, can you give me some sources that prove me wrong? Because what I said is in line with science. Psychology mainly focuses on describing human beings, it's nowhere near figuring out dependent you are on the environment, there's just too much contradictory stuff. You'd think being malnourished would be a serious enough thing for development, right? Well, there's a study of actually malnourished kids in an Asian country, and they tried figuring out what was the effect of diet on IQ. Once they accounted for parents' IQ, the diet's impact was quantified to be close to nothing. Even in that extreme case, again. So, got anything, anon?

>>14990503
BOARD*

>>14996584
You forgot to post a pic

>>14990598
cope harder, lanklet

>>14990404
>Just make sure they are 18
uh, cringe??

>>14996749
The ecological branch of developmental psychology is by now 100 years old, if we accept Martha Muchow's work about city children as its genesis. You will find no contemporary developmental psychologist who treats personal psychological development as independent of the person's environment.

>>14996749
Here's part of a table from Murray's "Human Diversity" which is the latest big book on the debate between genes vs. social constructivism. This table shows how to account for traits related to social behaviour from a study by Polderman, Benyamin, de Leeuw et al (2015).
As you can see genes account for a lot, depending on which trait, but the environment usually accounts for more of the variation. So you should account for genetics but pushing hardline biological determinism isn't feasible.

>>14990404
Why make sure they're 18 when 16-17 is legal?

>>14997016
Fucking Christ

>>14997016
This. People always say shit basing the whole world view on theirs. Your country is not the world. You can bang 15 year olds in countries, imposing your world view it must be 18 or eww is simply imperialism and I just wont allow it.

>>14997029
They are children and cannot make the decision to consent to sex as they don’t understand what they’re even doing. You are a pedophile

>>14997034
>hurr they are kids
>meanwhile on the left
>the voting age should be lowered to 16

Whatever suits your agenda, eh?

The only measure of what is adult/child is a biological and scientific one. That means if they have gone through puberty. if they have humans as a species and the law of nature deems them an adult.

Any other number is just arbitrary and non biologically and evolutionary scientific.

Furthermore, the age of consent is below 18 is almost all countries ion the world so they are all pedos hmm and you, only you and your countries age of consent is 100% right. You are a extremist. Isis does that kind of shit. Hurr I am right, the world is wrong durr.

>>14997055
Other countries also sentence people to death for being gay or even having weed, am I an evil imperialist for condemning that too?

>>14997062
Those are not based on evolutionary science though so it's nonsensical reply.

But to answer your question, yes. Who are you to say what is wrong and right regarding such things?

>>14997065
Your worldview is so unbelievable warped by these incels you spend every day talking to

>>14997069
Resorting to some stupid ad hom you pulled out your ass because you have no argument. Yeah bro, you really got me there.

>>14997074
Not an ad hom lmao if you actually interacted with functioning human beings in person you would not be trying to justify grown men fucking 15 year olds

>>14997079
Of course it is an ad hom, it's a personal attack towards me (based on sweet FA) but still, it's not a refute to the question.

Humans as a species can birth children after puberty so from a scientific based biological point then at the age, they are an adult.

Anything else is just an arbitrary number.

All animals and species do that. Once they can birth children they have reached adulthood. We don't stop an animal doing that for x amount of random time after.

Refute me with actual biology you brainlet.

arthoe genocide when?

>>14997087
Animals do not have the same mental capacity that humans do, and children don’t have the same mental capacity that adults do. Trying to say “animals do it so so can we” is a complete false equivalency

>>14997079
Further to this...

The only reason why you have such an aversion to younger girls having sex and birthing children before 18 is because of brainwashing you have received. You've been brainwashed that it's "morally" correct that girls should only do such things after 18. This is based on nothing scientific. What it is based on and coincides with though is the end of education. The number is there so women don't birth kids and finish an education to brainwash them also. You are too stupid to see that though or understand it.

It's the reason why in other countries the age of consent is much lower and they have children much earlier such as the Middle east and Africa simply because they do not have an educational system for women up until the age of 18.

What you are preaching and defending isn't nature, it's not science, it's simply the Western education system that wants to fully brainwash people before letting them become legal adults when in nature and reality, they already are but they have convinced you some random number they say such as 18 makes it so.

>>14997101
No it's not, it's based on the law of nature. An adult elephant doe snot fuck a baby elephant. They are not mentally incapable. They go on the law of the nature.

>children don’t have the same mental capacity that adults do.

A 15 year old with breasts and a menstrual cycle is not a child ffs. She is as a species, a fully formed adult.

At 18 does their mental capability just manifest into some false notion of what an adult is?

Mental capability does not correlate with adulthood and the ability to birth children either. Even if someone was slow and immature, but they as a species were an adult, one does not cancel out the other. They are still an adult.

Dude you are so far out of your IQ ability here.

>>14997111
you're bald mate, young girls don't want you or your stained teeth anyway

>>14997111
This is so wrong, the human brain isn’t even fully developed until around 25 years old. Grown men fucking kids is manipulation of their own authority (usually a teacher, family member, public figure) 95% of the time (and yes I pulled that statistic out of my ass because I know you would’ve focused on that)

>>14997121
Yo momma does.

>>14997125
>the human brain isn’t even fully developed until around 25 years old.

Oh look, here comes this old myth. Even if that was true, their body can birth children before this, so once again, the brain part does not cancel out the other and they are still made to birth children at that age, if not they wouldn't be able to until they are 25.

They also have peak egg count in their teens for said children and by 25 it is in decline so your "argument" is totally retarded.

May I ask are you advocating no person have children until they are over 25 or even sex? I bet you're not. You are just grasping at straws here to fir your agenda.

>grown men fucking kids is manipulation of their own authority

You mean grown men fucking grown women because that is what they are. You keep calling an adult in a species a child as though if you repeat it enough it will come true.

>>14997125
>women are not adults until they are 25 and should only have children after this

>As a woman ages, her chance of natural pregnancy drops from around 25% at age 25 to less than 5% at age 40.

Are we surprised about our declining birth rate when morons like this peddle such indoctrinated shit. At 25 the chances of having a baby are in DECLINE.

Holy shit. These kids will get us wiped out and replaced. he doesn't even know he has brainwashed to think in this anti-nature way.

>>14997144
>equating 25 year olds with 40 year olds
>calling others morons
haha

>>14997144
Our population is constantly increasing are you really that fucking dumb

>>14997153
This dude trying so fuckin hard to justify his child fetish

>>14997151
Did you even understand that? It means a great decline comes after 25 and drops and drops.

You are a teenager, aren't you?

>>14997153
Uhh.. getting more retarded by every post. It's below replacement level as are most in the West. The increase is from mass immigration and those families having a lot of children from an early age. World population is growing due to Africans having many kids from their teenage years.

Is anything an intellectual challenge here? I could own you in my sleep. Jesus this is too easy.

>>14997159
Not an argument.

>using shaming tactics to trump science

Good one.

>>14997162
Lmaoooo go back to /pol/

>>14997171
Oh look another great refute. You admit it. You have no argument. Walk away in shame little boy.

>>14997175
It’s pointless to argue with someone who ignores everything that doesn’t align with their viewpoint

>>14997162
you're actually retarded for thinking because the chances of pregnancy start to decline after 25 that it's still not completely normal to have children after that age. you remind me of a mongoloid i went to school with who thought women could get pregnant more than once a month. my sister in law started having kids at 27 and didn't stop until she was 38, she has 5 beautiful healthy children and you're a loser peddling your mentally ill opinions.

>>14997178
That's what you have been doing. I have explained everything via science and biology, you have just pulled shit out your own ass. This has nothing to do with personal viewpoints but scientific reality.

>>14997181
>HURR I CAN'T REFUTE YOU BUT HERE IS A PERSONAL ANECDOTE THAT TOTALLY MAKES MY ARGUMENT VALID

Lmao. Pic related. Here is me taking you off right now with your tears of looking like a stupid little kid. Do you need a tissue? Lol my God.

>>14997190
learn to speak english. you haven't said a single fact that backs up your mentally ill opinions, you're like a lesson in zero correlation.

>>14997190
Reproductive biology has literally 0 bearing on the morality of fucking someone who isn’t mentally capable of consent

>>14997195
Wahhh!! I backed up everything.

>>14997197
Reproductive biology is how a species works and continues its existence. "Morality" is not nature. It's cultural. What is moral to one is not to another. Boiling dogs alive is not moral to me and yet it is to others. Who is right?

You see that's the thing, you can't and you need to separate your interpretation of morality from science. That's what ruins science. Science is not either moral or immoral. It is simply science and simply fact.

A scientist of the past could have been murdered for witchcraft being accused of not being moral. You are a dangerous person and too immature to separate the 2.

>>14997211
>I backed up everything
nope

>>14997211
>attempting to justify pedophilia while calling people “dangerous”

>>14997217
Puberty > having periods > can birth children = adulthood.

>arbitrary age of consent does not.

I thought even at an IQ of 80 this was simple enough.

>>14997211
Stop typing like a beta male you cringelord. How are you dictating at what age people should have children when you're 40 years old and childless. All pedos should hang

>>14997223
It's funny because you're a predator and you don't even understand the concept of what a child is. I could just imagine a father splitting your skull open if you tried to get near his teenage daughter. That would be pretty satisfying.

>>14997220
That's not even the definition of a paedophile. It is pre-pubescent so even your shame tactic is totally garbage. Are you even trying?

>yes i am doing science, trying to find out a cure for this sickness
>OMG YOU ARE JUSTIFYING WITCHCRAFT

Low IQ and dangerous people like you have always existed. Genius people by the way have always being willing to cause outrage for truth. It's a trait in them. Low IQ have always followed your pattern.

Anon, I am sorry but I have to inform you.. you are as basic as they come.

>>14997232
>you are as basic as they come
And you’re still a predator

>>14997224
>How are you dictating at what age people should have children

By biology of the species. You should try it sometime.

>hurr charles darwin was a fraud because he was x age durr!!

>>14997228
The age of consent in France is 15. Does the whole of France not understand what a child is and should be murdered? You are an imperialist war monger.

>>14997238
The age of consent is 14 in Germany. What now?

>>14997239
>imperialist war monger
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>14997239
The age of consent is 11 in Nigeria. There is no age of consent AT ALL in Saudi Arabia. You're still a predator

>>14997247
>can only resort to ad homs
>says people should be killed because they don't have the same age of consent
>100% of europe has a lower age of consent than he says

Totally not an imperialist.

>>14997243
If you are more than like 2 years apart in age from the person you’re having sex with and that person is below 20 years old you deserve to get your ass beat

>>14997253
Which is unscientific and wrong. You still have no argument.

>>14997257
Calling you a predator is unscientific and wrong? You crack me up. All predators have the same rationalization or lack of, you people truly are dangerous. Of course you spin it the other way around like a kike.

>>14997254
>says people should be killed
That wasn’t me buddy, believe it or not more than one person thinks you’re a degenerate child predator

>>14997261
No dumbass, the age of consent in Nigeria etc.

>All predators have the same rationalization or lack of, you people truly are dangerous

Uhh no? They get with kids not because of biology but because they are attracted to them. idiot.

>kike

Cool antisemitism bro. You are winning this one.

>>14997263
>2 teenagers from a fashion board have big thoughts with their big brainies

So credible, must be true. I see all the refutes.. oh wait.. Me ad hom, me so smart!

>>14997270
Keep living in your own world, eventually some dad is gonna crack your skull for coming around his daughter

>>14997273
>hurr making a scientific based argument for something means you you are personally invested in it

This is why we don't progress because of people like you. Everything becomes personal.

>>14997275
>this is why we don’t progress
Part of our progression as a species was telling people they don’t get to fuck kids anymore

>>14997285
Yes, having sex with children is wrong. A 15 year old who can birth children is no longer a child though. Next question?

>>14997295
If you are unable to keep yourself alive without a parent, you are not capable of understanding the repercussions of sex and unable to consent

>>14997303
>he thinks a 15 year old can't keep themselves alive without a a parent

HAHAHAHAHA. How sheltered are you? Wow. You'd be in battle in the previous ages. Just wow. Pampered little baby.

I'll even say to you if that was true (it isn't) it does once again a million times refute biology. Why are these "refutes" so poor? Are you borderline special in the head?

>nature made it so people can give birth at x age
>hurr nature is wrong
>me smarter than nature they can only give birth at
>*poof*
>random number
>me da smartest

God give us hope that these retarded teens are going to run the world in future.

>>14997319
it does NOT once again a million times refute biology**

>>14997319
Lmaoo where and when were 15 year olds getting sent to war?? Even in Sparta men didn’t go to war until they were 20

>all my ancestors and human civilizations had children at a much younger age
>most people around the world still do
>nature designed it to be so
>for thousands of years it was this way

NOO!! They are all wrong, I am 100% right! They are predators!! They should hang!! The correct age is this random number the government told me is the right one!!

Why yes, I am an individual free thinker with an IQ over 50 and understand the concepts of science and biology!

L.M.F.A.O.

You don't even possess a single iota of intellect to conclude you might just be wrong and you might just have been conditioned, you hold your ignorant opinion while providing absolutely no counter argument other than baseless ad homs, just like all stupid people do who can't admit with their fragile self esteem that they were wrong.

>>14997346
>they should hang
You said it not me

>>14997345
The military age for Rome was 16-45. That was with a formed military. Other groups like Celtic tribes would have been younger. Even in the Victorian age people left school at 14 and went into work and acted on all levels as an adult.

Just sit down little boy, you are uneducated and ignorant.

>>14997350
NOOO!! DIFFERENT OPINIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED!! KILL THEM!! NOO I AM NOT LIKE ISIS!!

>>14997359
Different opinions are allowed if they’re not fucking stupid

>>14997345
>Between 250,000 and 420,000 boys under 17 were involved in the American Civil War, for both the Union and the Confederacy. It is estimated that 100,000 Union soldiers were under 15 years old.

NOOO!! We are only adults until after 25 and we must be in soft blankets until then!

You are the new generation of man children onion boys who play with toys aged 40.

>>14997367
>mine based on biology and all human existence
>yours based on fee fees?
>zero human history

Are you actively trying to make yourself look stupid? IT's working.

>>14997373
The civil war in which half of our military was fighting against the other half? You don’t understand why they were using younger soldiers too?

>>14997380
The fact is they were capable, would arming a bunch of 6 year old children work? No. Some idiot (probably you) who thinks a 15 year old is incapable of wiping their own ass and here they are in battle.

You have this modern Western mindset of arrested development that adults are only adults way into their mid 20s and beyond. That's not how all of human history worked.

>Rome
>They were a girl until menarche at which point they became a woman because they could produce children and thus were suitable for marriage. Menarche could happen early at aged 11 or 12 but most girls would probably have married at around the age of 15.

NOO ONE OF THE GREATEST CIVS EVER AROUND IS ALL WRONG!! ME SOME RETARDED TEEN ONLINE IS RIGHT!

My views are pretty much exactly as Roman views.

>>14997380
>You don’t understand why
War is a method for reducing the population.
It separates the men from the women and it gets rid of a lot of extra men.
Jail does the same thing and is used extensively to keep african american populations under control.
You are cattle.
Don't overthink it.

>Liberalia, a festival in ancient Rome indicating the transition from boyhood to man. It occurred sometime in March, and a Roman boy would celebrate it when he was around 14.

NOO!! Rome is wrong, I know better than some of the greatest minds ever! You can't be an adult at age 14, noo! You have to be over 25.

The absolute state of some of the "males" in this thread. They think a 24 year old is a child.

>ancient Celtic culture
>Brehon laws gave the age of adulthood and marriageability for a girl as fourteen, that probably was based on the assumption that puberty occurred at that age.

NOO!! They wrong also!! They base things on biology but that's stupid, I base it on some random number 18 the government told me to! Also the Celts are dumb, you become a man at another random age, 25.

This is just embarrassing.

>>14997388
Rome fell for a reason

>>14997413
Yes and that's not it. Rome fell because it become more fractured and liberal. Women started having less children and more "freedom" while the money held all the other outsider groups together but when the money went they reverted back to their original peoples.

Pretty much what you're seeing today. I know all about Rome thank you and you clearly don't hence your totally weak and retarded counter argument based on sheer ignorance.

The pattern of adulthood is pretty much the same through all groups. Once again nah they are all wrong and you are 100% right. You've no idea how stupid this makes you sound.

Just gather the evidence and listen to it, prove you are not totally stupid. Accepting this does not mean advocating old men to bang teens ffs. But it means 15 year olds are not children, it means 18 is just arbitrary to coincide with the end of education dressed up as something else and 25 (lol) isn't the age of adulthood.

Hoenstly, you just tried to make the argument

>the collapse of Rome was because they saw adulthood at 14 and not 18

So I don't have much faith you are anything but borderline retarded.

>>14997427
My point wasn’t that Rome fell because they thought 14 year olds were adults, it was that if your views are the same as those of Ancient Rome then they are seriously flawed

>Jews
>Bar/Bat Mitzvah - Entering Adulthood
>Age 13

Oh no no no. They are wrong too! Adulthood is 25! I want my Nintendo now and blanket!! MOM!!

>>14997440
Uhh.. one of the greatest if not the greatest civilization ever that a lot of the West is founded on and including all the philosophy

Yeah they weer wrong about everything and we are right about everything! You have fallen into the ignorant uneducated trap that an "ancient" people must be half retarded compared to today when it was anything but and they likely had a higher on average IQ.

>>14997448
All their philosophy came from Greece and even if it didn’t only like 10% of people in Rome could even read so, yes, we are smarter now

>How to get arthoes

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult

>Historically and cross-culturally, adulthood has been determined primarily by the start of puberty

>After the social construct of adolescence was created, adulthood split into two forms: biological adulthood and social adulthood

18 or 25 is SOCIAL ADULTHOOD. It is a social construct IT is NOT REAL.

What's next? WIKI IS WRONG TOO!! IT'S ALL WRONG!

You have swallowed and are spouting a social construct because of what your gov said. Yet nobody in this thread has the brains to see that and call it out.

You are defending (and saying to murder people) over a made up thing. You are mentally ill.

>>14997459
Firstly, the Greeks were the same and secondly. You don't understand how IQ works. If someone with an IQ of 200 is never taught how to read, and you can, you are not smarter than them. They all had the ability to.

Urgh God, I admit this triggered me. When people try to argue IQ and don't understand what it even means and think the percentage of those that can read is an indicator of a average IQ.

Please stop.

>>14997468
I didn’t even say anything about when someone is biologically an adult, I said the brain isn’t fully developed until 25 (which means your decision making is limited). I said that it is wrong for someone who has that full mental capacity to manipulate someone 10 years younger than them into sex

>>14997470
Can we agree to disagree and just shut the fuck up tho this is getting tiring

Start dating a new chick you like, show her David Lynch movies early on. If she enjoys them, you can turn her INTO an art hoe.

>>14997472
But brain function has no relation to being a biological adult. And really the whole 25 is garbage, it was 21 before I am sure. You wont see any difference between someone 24 and 25.

You know what you will see a huge difference with? Someone who hasn't hit puberty and does.

Adulthood means puberty. It's as simple as that.

Therefore a male/female past that are an adult by nature. We all develop mentally at a different pace and get wiser as we age. What you would do at 30 you might not at 50.

It still holds no impact on adulthood and what it means.

If you truly believe it is 25, you must call out the age of 18 then.

>>14997476
When idiots stop pushing social constructs (MADE UP) about what adulthood means.

>>14997506
I’m not arguing when somebody becomes an adult I’m arguing that somebody with a fully developed brain shouldn’t have sex with somebody who just finished puberty

>>14997535
So you are arguing nobody should have sex until they are over 25? Lol. Do you see how ridiculous your arguments end up getting. You believe people should only have sex at the age when fertility starts to decline. You are making the claim no 24 years old and 11 months old year is old enough to make "adult" decisions to have sex but a month later when they hit 25 then they can?

Come on.. clearly you can see how absurd this sounds.

Keep it real. Real it simple. I don't advocate 50 year old men having sex with a 17 year old but I see no reason why a 17 year old girl can't have a 17 year old boyfriend and have sex with him. You would ban them until they are 25?

>>14997552
Not at all, I completely agree with that last paragraph. I just don’t think a 25 year old should have sex with a 17 year old

>>14997557
But you see now you deviate from a biological answer such as puberty or brain development to just arbitrary numbers decided on the spot.

Can a 17 year old be with a 19 year old or must they be 17 also? When can the 17 year old be with the 25 year old? When they are 20? 21?

It has no basis whatsoever.

>>14997560
I see your point but I also feel like most grown adults are capable of knowing that they shouldn’t fuck a 17 year old, and that’s not deviating from my point about brain development. I think it’s manipulative to have a fully developed brain and go after younger girls (not like a year age gap, the brain doesn’t suddenly go from retard to genius when you hit 25, there’s obviously a development over time) because you know they won’t act like a real adult

>>14997552
>I don't advocate 50 year old men having sex with a 17 year old

Why not? She's in prime fertility range.

>>14997575
Manipulation happens in all forms though. Two 20 year olds can be totally different and one can manipulate the other. Just because people are the same age doesn't mean it can't occur, a 17 year old guy could manipulate a 17 year old girl. A 50 year old could manipulate someone 28.

It's just a never ending thing. People are not clones at which they hit certain ages and are all somehow the same.

After all, isn't the biggest group of guys who use girls and screw them over those within their age group?

Older guys wont often be with a teenager because of different life stages but the same applies to 25 and 40. Is it not worse a 25 year old with a 70 year old than a 17 year old and a 25 year old?

That's why you can only rely on biology. It's set in stone, real and factual.

Plus in the countries in which a 16 year old can legally sleep with a 60 year old it's still very rare. Giving people the choice and freedom sorts itself out which shows that teenagers are not as retarded and child like as you think.

>>14997593
Nothing I’d argue here, I’d just point out that it’s easier to be manipulated by someone older than you as their usually seen as an authority figure (especially when you’re young)

>>14997599
They’re* can’t let em flame me

>>14997589
She is but he's not a compatible partner to raise the child with, it's likely the parents relationship will end up fractured and their different life stages will play a part in the childhood not being so stable.

He's not a pedo though as it's natural to be attracted to youthful genetics in their prime to birth offspring.

It's a whole world of difference to some dude creeping on a little girl with no breasts playing with her dolls. The pedo usage loses it;s worth like racism with being thrown around so much, there are people out there who rape 3 months old and it's totally twisted and is in no way related to finding some fully developed 16 year old attractive.

You could show guys photos and say the girls are 18 and they would be hmm yeah hot and then turn around and say actually they are 16. They are ruled by a number and now who they actually are.

Now if you showed guys kids photos and said they were 18 the guys would tell you to fuck off.

>>14997599
It can also be easy to manipulate really old people. How does some 50 year old guy do that though? How does he do that to a teenager? In most cases she will just shut you down. It's easy in a position of power like a teacher that's why there are rules regarding that to combat it.

The only instances of lots of adults manipulating teens for sex is in the case of grooming and muslim gangs that partake in it. They target vulnerable people and girls from bad abusive backgrounds. The grooming is the crime.

I don't see that as the same as some 17 year old walking up to even a 30 year old in the street and saying hi to him.

I was having fun reading this thread until these two retards started arguing

>>14997706
>i was having fun trying to learn how to get an "arthoe"

Yeah, you're cool. Totally not a teenage virgin. Get laid, incel.

>>14997623
>In most cases she will just shut you down.
You're obviously not picking up the desperate runaways who can easily be bought with a warm meal at Denny's and a hot shower at Motel 6.

>>14997728
Lmao. Sex work is different. She was 18 too, I swear it, fren.

>>14991035
I'm 5"9 and have a 7" dick, even measured it.

If you wank off it shrinks your penis btw
Nofap chad here

>>14997712
What are u so upset ab

>>14997760
Bro "arthoes" bro. Lmao. Incel.

Please stop arguing Anons

>>14990404
This girls name is lacey karlosky and i hooked up with her 10 years ago when she was in highschool. I stopped talking to her 5 years ago when she became an ethot stripper whore. I see her more and more now online. I feel bad for her.

>>14997760
He’s a namefag on the fashion board of an anime imageboard. I’d be embarrassed too.

>>14992741
Being this way with a girl that probably wants to be throat fucked and spit on during sex.\
"Ask to kiss her"
Don't ever do this you faggot. Holy shit

>>14997792
Also she is hardly artistic. A few little drawings and she made some shitty crochet tops that she sold on etsey. No sure where you guys get the idea of an "arthoe". She is just a normal hoe with tatoos and dyed hair

>>14992741
I am too lazy to read this but I believe you fucked up and also are a faggot probably

>>14995539
I just wanted to see if you were cute, and you sound like you are. my snap is @midnightcreator

>>14990404
>tfw watch meme bands like Black Midi or The Raincoats with gf
>tfw go to art galleries and raves
>tfw thrift shopping
>tfw smoke weed with her and fuck like crazy
She ain't no hoe tho

>>14990404
>completely changing your lifestyle and appearance to possibly attract some retarded unstable high schoolers with green hair and shitload of issues
no thanks

>>14997835
congrats, you do stuff 90% of couples in 500k+ cities in the west do
>>14997841
Yes.

>>14997983
So what you're saying is that art hoes don't exist, and its just a name for a general cluster of certain aesthetics and behaviours that most normal people do anyway?

If that's they case and they don't actually exist, how are you supposed to fuck em?

FUKCING POST MOAR ARTHOES YOU STUPIND FUCKING FAGGOTS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14998051
Go coom somewhere else dumb cumbrain

>>14998051
Here's one (Jennifer Anne Sullins), calm down

>>14998051
Another one (Cacia Zoo), just for you

need an arthoe to give me sloppy toppy

>>14998146
>>14998159
>>14998243
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>14997611

>>14998051
>>14998146
stop it cumbrain. let's discuss social constructs more are you afraid of intelligent discourse

>>14992741
the best thing to do is to move on and use your emotions as motivation to learn how to never be a beta again

>>14990404

this is so gay

>>14995209
>implying hip hop isn't mainstream

>>14998463
Go to any hiphop show (not mainstream top spotify playlist kendrik lamar whoever shit) and it will be full of arthoes

>>14998463
I think you might be stupid

>>14992165
whats the point of not having the maturity to start planning for your retirement when you're five years old?

>>14998477
I think you might like reddit music

I'm kinda amazed at how far the chance of a arthoe gf can make a man go. I a'lmost got my septum pierced to impress some green-haired qt. Only reason it didn't happen was that my nose was incompatible. And then fast forward a month later and after she found out one thing she didn't like about me poof I'm ghosted.

my weewee needs moar arthoe

>>14990404
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>>14990404
The issue is I don't like the way these retards think, but I do like the way they dress etc.

>>14998556
what was the one thing

>>14998754
Due to my rural white trash upbringing I'm an innate racist: I can't even help but be warry around brown people and be afraid/untrusting of them

>>14998766
as you should

>>14992942
sick berserk tatt

>>14992589
okay but why not just find an actually good girl and make HER your cum dumpster?

>>14998448
This. It's counter intuitive but you have to be less emotional and attached when it comes to shit. If you quit being a bitch things start to go your way eventually

>>14992865
alt chad lmaooo

>>14996581
No

>>14997029
>>14997055
You talk like a sexual predator. We can see through you.

>>14998766
Given that most people aren't racist I'd say that's a fair reason to ditch you

I hate art hos since I'm an OG art bro from the early 2010's and these hoes basically just ripped me off

>>14997034
>a 16 year old doesnt know what sex is
Not everyone is a sheltered virgin like you

>>14999028
>tfw after dating a sexually reserved "good" girl for a few years she's finally adjusted (and also encouraging) of me spraying my seed all over her
It's good fun, her bed was a mess when I last left her

>>14999681
The thing is that I don't do it on purpose, it's just like a reflex that I can't turn off. I just automatically tense up whenever there's brown people near me. I told her about this issue and that I can't help it but she treated it like I just told her I'm a KKK arch-wizard.

>>14998243
who this please???

>>14999681
*given that most white people try not to appear racist while still being fundamentally tribal like anybody else

>>14999761
@lywi.gr_
idk why i spent the time to find this for you but, fap it up i guess

>>14998766
>>14999725
This is so much cringe and pathetic. I have to believe it is a troll.

>given a good and healthy upbringing
>now brainwashed full of self hate and guilt

The stats are clear. You are much more likely to be assaulted by blacks as a white guy than the other way around so in an area with a lot of blacks you'd be a brain dead moron to not be alert. I plead that every little "anti-racist" white dude to go and spend an hour in the black part of the city or hit up a black bar. You'll see what racism really is.

Watch 2 blacks guys enter a 99% white bar and talk to white women and nothing happen. Watch 2 white guys go to a 99% black bar and hit on the black women. You'll see reality.

I grew up in poverty in California and have lived all over the ghettos, but hey, maybe some 18 year old little privileged white kid on here knows best because the school of Marxism told him so. Give me a break.

>>14999768
It's absolutely true. Even in the most "anti-white" place of the world the West, behind clothes does the vast majority operate by normal human laws and are for their tribe. A vocal aggressive minority and Hollywood equates to a very little percentage overall.

If anything, that makes your views worse than Hollywood, super privileged sex fiends and pedos have your beliefs.

>>14990404
quoting negative xp:
"She's a teenage dream if you hate yourself"

Do you guys know what is really hilarious?

When I moved to this city, I was invited and had my bus fair paid for by an early 20s art hoe who I met online.

Me, the 5ft bald old man got with an art hoe when all of you try so hard and fail. I didn't do anything either, I didn't need to dress in any certain way. I simply needed to not be an autistic little bitch who is afraid of their shadow.

Pic related is me with some of her art work on my wall.

>>14999835
bro u a simp, don't lie

>>14999884
You wish. You mean 99% of the posters here are making threads about how to dress to get a girl. Lmao pathetic.

Pic related. Her and me.

>>14999835
holy shit youre living a lie
wake up man
everybody hates you here
just kill yourself
ps youre fucking ugly lmaooooooooo

>>14999918
Don't confuse jealousy with hate bro. I have all the proof I need.

>ps youre fucking ugly lmaooooooooo

Says the jelly virgin lol.

>>14999835
I'm literally autistic but I want to improve. Where should I start and what should I talk to these women about?

>>14999921
Your girlfriend is ugly as shit

>>15000084
Firstly don't be autistic. It's a matter of being yourself (not in the onion boy way) while not giving a fuck. How I talk here I talk irl. I don't care who is offended or if certain words are banned and blah blah blah.

Firstly you should improve your confidence and not give a shit instead of using your autism as an excuse. Women are all the same(ish) deep down, there is no certain subject. Usually talk about something around you or something happening as you are talking. Not hurr durr what bands do you like!! If you met someone you knew you wouldn't ask stupid shit like that, you'd just talk about normal every day things.

>>15000094
Bro, this is her. NOW POST YOURS.

All of you little betas would kill for something this hot. You are so bitter to the point of it being hilarious but I also feel sorry for your tragic self.