/fa/ - Fashion

>>14973883
Jesus that movement is amazing.

>>14973988
The front is rather nice too.

>>14973883
I've seen some really cool watches, but I couldn't waste money on an accesory thats made superfluous by every phone, car, computer, games console, tv and radio

>>14974024
Thx for the insight chief I just sold all my watches

>>14974024
>wasting money on game consoles, tvs, or radio
>not getting the cheapest phone and car possible

>>14974024
That's why watch threads were banished from /g/ and forced onto /fa/. They're all-in-all just a fashion accessory. While you can enjoy the horological aspects of a watch, we all know that's not why they're a big deal.

what's the fucking point of a diving chronograph? doubly so if it's true you can't use the pushers underwater

>>14974104
Boomer bait

>>14974104
>>14974117
yes, goys. buy two watches instead of one.

>>14974080
>>14974024
For the vast majority of people, a watch will be a fashion accessory. This is a separate concept from the idea that there are useful reasons for having a watch. In my line of work you generally can't have your phone on you in lab, so having a relatively reliable watch which I can time things with and not have to worry about it breaking is very useful. Watches being primarily fashion accessories for most people in the market doesn't mean that watches don't serve a very important non-fashion centered tool role for a decent number of people.

>>14974126
You can't use the pushers in the water without compromising the movement. Having two separate tools that are more effective in their own right is a lot smarter than having one expensive multi-tool that does a shit job and just about everything it could be used for.

>>14974126
>having a timing bezel and chronograph
Ah yes I have to use my chronograph for my race today but I'll need a dive watch for when I'm scuba diving off my yacht. I know I'll grab my diving chronometer that does the obsolete jobs of both watches and looks shittier than both!

>>14974136
how about just not using the pushers underwater?

>>14973549
>Is citizen the king of quartz movements?
>>14973550
>Bulova

Bulova is owned by citizen, and regardless Citizen is now King of Quartz with the release of the 0100 calibre last year. They're the only ones that are still bothering to push forward "basic" quartz timekeeping tech in the face of atomic time radio synced quartz timepieces.

>>14974117
Pretty much. Only people I see with chrono planet oceans and the like are saggy old boomers. Fuck knows why they're attracted to that shit.

yema more like sell ma shitter and buy a rolex

>>14974024
I can't wear a car on my wrist though.

>>14973883
I wanna get into watches as I like the design and history aspect of them a ton also I very much appreciate the engineering and design work that goes into producting such timepieces.

What I find really hard is to set a reasonable price point for a first watch. I want something I can wear every day but I dont want it to be "cheap" or just a fashion watch. So I have been thinking about entry level watches such as a Seiko SKX007 or a Flightmaster. I like the design of both and as an every day watch the price point seems reasonable however even shitty apple watches cost twice as much so that price point seems cheap really.

As for luxury watches (or rather entry level luxary) I really love the Omega Speedmaster Professional, both the history as well as the design speak to me and it is the watch I am looking forward to owning sooner or later in my life. I mean I have the money in my bank account but it is still hard to justify spending that much money on a watch and I am not sure I could comfortably wear it on a daily basis without being worried. I am not sure I could leave it in a locker at the gym while I work out without being nervous.

So what do you guys think what is a good price point for a first watch ? How much of a monthly salary (or multiples thereof) would you think is still reasonable ? And do you guys actually wear luxury watches on the daily ?

most superior

>>14974323
Depends on your lifestyle/socioeconomic class.

>>14974323
>So what do you guys think what is a good price point for a first watch ?
An amount of money you can afford to lose if the watch gets stolen, damaged beyond repair or simply lost.

You could use that rule no matter how rich you become later in life.

>>14974323
Half a month's salary for a watch should be your guide.

>>14974340
Just realized this would be good to have as a homeless person. Not that the time would help a great deal but it would help you track the months and years. And should last your entire life.

>>14974323
As far as mechanicals, I would recommend starting with a two watch collection of less than $1000 US combined that both have great value for money, a design you love, can be worn with any attire between the two, and have generic but reliable and prolific movements. Then set your sights on your first luxury watch. Think long and hard while you're saving about what type of collection you want to have in the "end" whether that's 2, 4, or 10 watches and how you want to go about building it. Don't buy any watch you couldn't love if it was the only watch you had, but that doesn't mean every piece has to do everything.

About the "cheap" thing, hardly anyone is going to assume or know that your watch is expensive even if it is, or if you're talking about your own perception of the watch, you'd be surprised how much the quality of a good 3-400$ watch can impress you, especially if you're new to the hobby

>>14974414
Homeless people have surprisingly many uses for knowing what time it is. There's a lot of utility to having a reliable timepiece on you; that's why schoolchildren are given wristwatches in preference to cellphones.

>>14974323
If you want a cheap beater watch that you don't care about but still want to feel high quality on the wrist, I suggest seiko turtle srp777. It's going to be able to stick with you through a lifespan of beating

The dial is finished to a very neat and tidy matte black, the sharpness of the metal on the hands are very clean and tidy and attractive, the lume is the best you can get, the metal cushion case is disgustingly comfortable and keeps the centre of gravity hugging very close to your wrist.

The only things that can break is an extremely hard knock that will fuck the $40 movement which will cost about $40 to replace and likewise the crystal is extremely cheap and easy to replace.

Its one of my favourite watches under $1000 and honestly the only reason I sold mine is that I have baby wrists and can't wear it. I miss it constantly.

jesus christ fuck seriously..

where my catalogue bros at?

Was worried it’d be too big but I think I‘m right on the edge. How would it look on a khaki Zulu?

>>14974146
Or, don't have a failure point that is very easy to bump accidentally and expose your watch to water at all and just have a second chronograph somewhere else if you really need a chronograph for some reason.

c i t i z e n

>>14974838
masterpiece

TGV has done more harm than good to the watch community. I will never look at orient and nato straps the same way again.

Still looking for a similar look but at a more reasonable pricepoint.
Anyone got any suggestions?

>>14974882
Doesn't have the gold, but there's this presage.

>>14974886
Bit too pilot-y

>>14974864
who?

>>14974889
Doesn't have the gold case either, but it is cheap. There's also that black dial seagull chrono with gold hands/indices.

>>14974904
Oh nevermind, apparently baltic makes one with a gold DLC coating.

Why should/shouldn't I buy a Rolex OP 39?

>>14974904
>>14974905
>virgin baltic
>Chad Seagull Zhongguo Airforce Chronograph

>>14974904
>>14974905
>virgin baltic micro
>Chad Seagull Zhongguo Airforce Chronograph

>>14975005
Get a 36mm OP instead.

>>14974904
>>14974905
Baltic actually seems like a pretty good micro brand. Too bad they use Miyota movements

>>14975010
Shouldnt you be in a hospital Chang?

>>14975013
Nothing wrong with miyotas in a <$1k watch. At least it's not like a 2824 which eats itself if you hand wind it. Though it'd be nice if their 3-hander used a 9039 like the aquascaphe.

>>14975019
The Aquascaphe looks great. I’m honestly tempted to get one

OMEGA speedmaster reduced, are they worth the price in terms of buying a full price one and still the aesthetic’s of a true speedmaster?

>>14975022
Yea, I would be too if I didn't already have two miyota divers.

>>14975018
>low tier sinophobia scaremongering

sub zero IQ media lead retard

>>14975012
I don't like the double indices at 3/6/9 on the 36mm version.

I shiggy diggy you wear anything else. World leaders don't need to wear flashy luxury watches.

>>14975119

>>14975119

Posted this one on the older thread.

What do you think?

>>14975119
>wanting to emulate slimy politic whores
all of them are snakes

>>14975119
that's just a retard marionette trying to look approachable for his dumbfuck followers by looking like a dumbfuck. grow a fucking brain, bettynho.

>>14975187
Based

>>14974904
>>14974905
>half hour stopwatch
Why even bother?

And on that note, who was it that was buying all those non-military, non-sport chronograph watches in the past?
I'm talking those dressier looking vintage Pateks, Vacherons, Universal Genevres and all the rest? Someone was buying them since so many references are hot collector shit today, but who had need of a dressy chronograph back in the day?
It was a tool watch for airforce pilots, soldiers and race car drivers.
Who was the market for this shit back then? I can't think of a civilian in well to do business clothing having any need for one.

>>14975033
>can't handle the bants
special snowflake, belongs more on reddit tier retard detected

>>14975201
>I was only pretending to be retarded
nope you're just retarded

>>14975119
>>14975147
See
>>14975187
Dumbshits don't look at the pics of all these motherfuckers wearing their Rolex, Breguet, Pateks and Tags (lmao) the day after they leave public office. They drop that fake humble act the minute after their time in the official public light is over. Do you think Barack "I scratch your back; collect 65mill" Obama really wore that shitty quartz chrono the secret service gifted to him a second longer than necessary? No lmao it was a piece of fucking shit, I bet he threw that turd away out the window of his limo as he left the white house for the final time.
Think Bill "enter with less than a million, exit with more than 100" Clinton rocks a Chinese made Timex today? lol, I bet that disappeared into the trash can before the battery even ran out one time.
Rich people want nice things, and have the means to buy them. The price for such a trinket is a pittance to such people. The pantomime is for the little people. Think their wives and mistresses who are out of the spotlight wear Seiko and Citizen and cheap costume jewelery?
Say what you will about drumpf, but at least he rocks what he wants and doesn't play the whole "look at me I wear the same cheap shit like you I'm a real man of the people" schtick like a typical politician. No it's Pateks and VC's right out the gate.
Fuck this fake modesty shit everyone knows you enter public office to come out rich ffs and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking moron.

>>14975213
>vladimir putin

>>14975213
Exactly this. World leaders used to wear nice watches. The President bracelet got it's name for a reason. Then I guess there was some kind of backlash or pollsters said they needed to appear more humble and that stopped. They still had expensive collections in private. Clinton especially is known for having a very good set of watches he owns.

>>14974414
>And should last your entire life.
Assuming it has a Li-ion battery that charges from the solar cell, it will probably stop holding any usable amount of charge after ~15 years.

>>14975213
>doesn't play the whole "look at me I wear the same cheap shit like you I'm a real man of the people" schtick
He was already preëmpted in that regard by things such as his top-shelf Ukrainian mail-order trophy wife and skyscrapers named after himself.

>>14975537
Which raises the question: why do we even have solar-powered watches? If you still need to replace the battery sooner or later, then why not use a regular battery-powered watch that has a predictable lifespan and doesn't need to rely on sunlight to operate throughout it?

>>14975547
She's Slovenian not Ukrainian you dumb fuck. She's also not a mail order bride, the bitch speaks 5 languages and was a plenty capable entrepreneur outside of her modelling career. Trump has been at best a massive disappointment but there's no point in directing whatever anger you have at him towards his wife who genuinely seems to want to just be left alone.

>>14975578
Because a solar cell based watch is not any more expensive to manufacture than a standard quartz in 2020 and will last 5-8 battery changes on a single cell system (at which point replacing the cell system isn't that much more expensive than one or two battery changes). There's an argument to be made that maybe a conventional quartz is better in the long run because the failure points are isolated, predictable and more or less discrete (either the battery has power or it doesn't) but both rely massively on manufacturing infrastructure that isn't easy to maintain and will thus be significantly difficult to maintain isolated from 21st century civilization.

>>14973883
Lume shots anyone?

>>14975620
The camera in my phone (Pixel 3a) has decent low-light performance, and the lume in my watch looks alright (not as good as on the dive watches though). But I still don't know how to take a lume photo that doesn't look like a blurry mess.

>>14975537
Some of the more recent solar quartz movements have ultracapacitors rather than li-ion cells. They're better at both trickle charge and trickle discharge, which in particular the latter li-ion cells are kinda shit at. Ultracaps aren't known from experience to last longer than 15 year old li-ion cells, being as the technology is like a decade young, but so far they're holding up better.
>>14975578
Solar charging permits a water-resistant monocoque case, i.e. without a removable back and with the crystal glued in place and/or friction fitted. It smells to me like these solutions would be more of a bother when the crystal gets scratched or shattered. But still, the major point of solar charging is that you'll only be short of a watch store to do the job for you (and have a backup battery available) at the very end of the watch's lifetime between services.
>>14975587
Okay, so I'll drop the mail-order part. Export wives from the east bloc are genuinely expected to speak 5 languages, and neither Slovenia nor Ukraine are shit-tier like Romania and Bulgaria. It's not like the guy in his 50s who went off to Thailand and came back married. My point is that this sort of thing certainly isn't available to the V*k-tier poorfag, and that the Orange Emperor probably would -- just as he'd wear ostentatious richfag bling in public office.

A few years ago I developed a mild watch autism thanks to being exposed to reddits consoomer echo chamber. I dropped all that toxic shit and never went back to that faggy onions shithole. Later I discovered that kids were into collecting nigger designed made in china plastic shoes that retailed for 200$ when i doubt that the material and labor bill was higher than 10$. So I made a connection. Watches are the boomer version of the fortnite crowd nigger sneakers, just a more ellaborate and higher iq version of the same shit. So when you see some rich >50 yo wearing a rollie, ap or other jewy big ticket watches think that they would be wearing and praising fortnite ninja adidas boost sneakers if they were born 30 years later

>>14974323
Really depends in how rough you will be on a daily wearer, and also your style.
That said, it's hard to recommend a good price point to start because quality can vary a lot between brands.
It sounds like you enjoy watches with some heritage behind them, so maybe looking into a flieger from one of the orignal makers may be of interest. Laco and Stowa are two that exist in the sub-1000 range, Laco being the cheaper of the two. However, I met a guy who was letting me try on his Submariner who was just raving about his Stowa Flieger. He said it was the watch he'd worn most for the last six months, and was super excited to show off the quality

>>14973883
>>14974323
I just looked around in my area and I could get a Omega Speedmaster professional for 3.290€ which doesnt really seem that crazy to me. Surely not the sapphire version but still. I have never bought a luxury watch so is there any type of haggling you can do or is that looked down upon ?

When it comes to luxury watches I currently have 4 I am really in love with, probably in that order:
>Rolex Daytona (116500LN)
>Rolex Submariner (114060)
>Omega Speedmaster Professional
>Omega Seamaster

So I guess from that list the Speedy is probably the most reasonable one if I were to go luxury watch...

>>14975637
Slovenia isn't from the eastern block moron.

>>14975637
Have you ever looked at a map before? Slovenia borders Italy bro. It's south west of Austria.

>>14975687
>>14975705
>Yugoslavia wasn't part of the Eastern bloc
morons

>>14975156
its very cool, these watches are absolute the best stuff for that price, I got meself an 60's business-a model. the size is perfect and runs amazing. These watches deserve more credit

>>14975620

>>14975734
Do Americans have anything whatsoever except slavery and gas chambers on the curriculum anymore?

>>14975637
>Some of the more recent solar quartz movements have ultracapacitors rather than li-ion cells.
Are you talking about digital or analog? Auto-quartz watches have been using capacitors for a long time, but I'm not sure if a capacitor (even a very good one) can power an always-on LCD, EL backlight, alarm etc. without the risk of running out of power too quickly.

>>14975767
>and gas chambers
actually, about half of American adults don't know what the Holocaust is according to a recent poll

>>14975767
Unfortunately not. History with all of its complexity and nuance is inconvenient to those who bread their butter with centralized mythology. People want to know the "100% truth" about everything which means there needs to be a simplified top down message taught rather than the reality that history (and academia more generally) is a field full of major disagreements and inconsistencies/approximations from all angles.

I got clued in to World Timers because of a certain watch reviewer.

What other affordable watches have this feature?

Not just for display and actual world time.

>>14975734
>the absolute state of american education
Yugoslavia was most famous for staying neutral in the cold war. And it had higher HDI than the likes of France, Germany, UK, USA... and Slovenia was the most developed part of the country

>>14975810
Casio

>>14975818
This one looks better.

>>14975816
It was still a socialist country locked behind iron curtain. Just because its dictator had a disagreement with dictator of Russia doesnt make it independent.
Yugoslavia was the rebelious problem child of eastern block, but still a part of it.

What ever you do, don't ban Archie from your forum scam site - https://youtu.be/qLDbNiwYPc4?t=720

>>14975810
You can get a few vintage Russian 24hour dial watches that have a world time bezel. Obviously they don't work automatically like the Patek world time which requires no extra input once you set the time. Cheapest mechanical ones I can think of.

>>14975858
Just concede faggot.
You got called out for your retardation.
It's an anonymous forum you have no stake lmao

>>14975818
>>14975853
>digital
Just look at your phone at this point.

>>14975884
Was hoping for some more modern, easily available ones.

>>14975853
AE2100W has all the same features, just rearranged and is round. Also, it's got 200m water resistance, which is the minimum I'd have if you want to take it in the water. (At least with a budget watch.)

>>14975946

>>14975858
>locked behind iron curtain
Yugoslavian passport was the most powerful in the world retard

ordered my stowa flieger 40 limited grey a few days ago. counting down the days

>>14975946
>digital
>Just look at your phone at this point.
You can make that case against ANY watch at this point. But if you are going to be where you won't have access to your phone, or it isn't practical to bring it along, you also wouldn't want to bring a high-dollar watch with you either, unless you want to do a douchey flex, which is all high-dollar watches are anyway. And don't give me some bullshit about about "the hobby." Buying shit is not a hobby, because that's all watch collecting is. There is literally zero skill that goes into it. You just have to spend money. And don't talk about "horology" either, because if you gave a shit about time keeping, you'd know that analog and mechanical clocks are horribly obsolete.

>>14975858
>>It was still a socialist country locked behind iron curtain.
You're a complete and utter retard. You could go literally anywhere in both blocs with the Yugoslavian passport, it was the most independent country in the 20th century.
>dictator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fMEqieRFLs

>>14975620
>>14975750
What are these?

>>14976030
2nd is obviously a seamaster

>>14976013
We're trying to delude ourselves that we have some semblance of appreciation of microengineering and craftsmanship. We want beautiful, complex and useless thing on our wrist

Having a small computer on your wrist just defeats the purpose.

>>14975891
>>14975998
>>14976015

>triggered balkan trash.

>>14976038
>ad hominem
Listen to that other anon and stop. You've been exposed as retard, there is no point in further discussion.

>>14976011
fuuuuck nice man. own any other stowas? got my eye on a marine original but i want flieger too

>>14976011
wow i might just have to pull the trigger on one of these. do they come with a metal bracelet?

>>14976011
>buying a generic flieger for more than $100
lmao LMAO L M A O

What is your pic as best sub 200$ timepiece that you can put on tommorow and never take it off for the rest of your life?*

*not litteraly, you can take it off when taking a shower, sleeping and when it needs service

>>14976116
Im not trying to burst your bubble, but you wont get a mechnical like that for $200 simply because the service will cost half of what the watch is worth. I'm not saying that you shouldnt get an orient or seiko or what have you, but you just shouldn't expect it to last forever unless you put a lot of money intoa cheap watch. I'm speaking from experience here. "shitter" is a meme here but there is a kernel of truth to it. You have to ask youreself if you are willing to pay a minimum of $100 for a basic movement to get it repaired if it stops working. If the answer is no, then the watch is essentially disposable. My advice is to by a *couple* (not fucking twenty) cheap watches and figure out what you are looking for in a timepiece and then save up and splurge a bit for a special occasion. If you watch a quartz then thats a bit different. Honestly at the end of your shitters 5-7 year life span you'll be looking forward to buy another watch anyways. Trust me

>>14976013
Why exactly would you carry a literal spybox with you everywhere?

>>14975965
WR200 is nice, but this case looks pretty bad. Too much crap that serves no practical purpose - like those screws, why are they even there? AE1200 is the only watch in the AE series that doesn't have G-Shock styling.

>>14976116
Seiko Mini Turtle
Orient Mako / Kamasu

>>14975780
Analog. The deal with ultracaps is that they charge and discharge better with the levels of juice that cells can provide, or what quartz movements consume. So a full charge for a Citizen pilot's dinner plate supposedly goes for ten months in a dark box. (albeit those have a low-light feature where it stops moving when there's not enough light to read the hands by. no lume, either.) LCDs hardly eat anything either, it's the backlight that does. So the caps don't need to be all that deep or powerful, just that a watch is going to eat fuck-all over the next forever.
>>14975687
Giz a break, nigs. Yugoslavia sided with the east bloc, member of warsaw pact or not. Strictly speaking it and its later parts are southern europe, but during the cold war they were further in CCCP's pocket than (say) Finland. And Finland was pretty well down in there, despite "neutrality".

>>14976030
First is some Zelos

>>14976030
The one with hollow hands is a Omega Semenmaster

>>14976030
Mine is a semenmaster.

>>14976182
>LCDs hardly eat anything either, it's the backlight that does.
Got pic related for my birthday back in 2008. I wore it for awhile, but stopped because it was a real hair-puller. Stuck it in a drawer, then a box when when I moved. Recently found it when going through some old shit. Battery was still going strong. Time was off by about 20 minutes, which wasn't bad for a watch that I hadn't worn for over a decade. I did replace the battery since it was so old and I worried about it leaking. But I have started wearing it again.

>>14975156
as usual, the Daini version (the seikomatic-P) is better

>>14976083
As far as I'm aware Stowa and Laco don't sell bracelets with their classic Flieger Models. A lot of more modern companies like Archimede and Damasko offer bracelets with their Flieger style watches, but I don't Laco or Stowa do.

>>14976089
I'm sorry, what exactly are you trying to convey with this response? You're just making yourself look like a moron here.

Can I get a rundown on pic related? It seems like good value for money. If there are better alternatives please suggest them. The size is 39mm and the price is around 1000 eurobucks

>>14976290
If you don't get it then you are spending your money blissfully unaware.

>>14976063
Dont you have genocide to commit somewhere Slobodan?

>>14976295
it's great for that price you should probably buy two

>>14976295
nice invicta homage

at least get the ceramic version you triple baka

>>14976295
If you like the design then it's fine. The lume is fucking garbage. The bezel has a massive flaw in that the internal ratcheting metal will rust very quickly if exposed to water. Owned one and had to replace the part twice, and they are not cheap repairs. Movement is good and accurate.

>>14976295
> 1000 Euros
> ETA 2824
> Not ISO rated
Just get a Hamilton 28xx for a quarter of the price

>>14976075
no this will be my first stowa. I have a few different watches but this will be my first "nice" one you could say. very excited for it to arrive.

>>14976331
hmm im honestly kind of in the same boat. i here there prices are increasing monday too

>>14976300
Do you really think that people buying Stowa and Laco Fliegers aren't aware that there are Chinese knockoffs and quartz AliExpress specials? The only person blissfully unaware is you.

>>14976363
Stowas are worth 300 euros like their original prices. This is as far as I'll go to spoonfeed you. Go buy your Stowas and Steinharts and Squales.

>>14975620
Too much lume isn't a good thing btw

>>14976011
Return it

>>14976116
Citizen bn151/150 depending on if you like blue or black.

>>14976481
don't

>>14976487
do

>>14975620

>>14976524
skx

>>14976475
said noone ever

>>14976295
Just get the invicta sub homage

Too many Grand Seikos are ill proportioned and stupid looking. Large diameter yet tiny lug width. Looks dumb

>>14976560
The majority of GS fans are weebs who are too poor to actually buy one and just ignore all their flaws.

>>14976598
they cost more than omegas which are superior

>>14976598
The one that people will never shut up about, the snowflake, is especially ugly. A minimal dress watch that's the size of a wall clock. Makes me wonder why people even respect the brand if they can't even make a good looking watch.

>>14976701
From the 70s through now Citizen has been better in most ways.

>>14976533
Correct.

>>14976832
Although it now has a coin edge bezel.

>>14975620

why do autistic retards like vacheron constantin?

what is it about the brand that attracts spergs?

Considering purchasing the white dial on bracelet after getting a chance to handle one. Give me a reason why I shouldn't

>>14976908
If you've seen it in person, like it and can afford it then just buy it. Don't listen to what anyone else thinks.

>>14976893
You only need to look at this thread. Every brand attracts autists.

>>14976893
probably makes them feel erudite being such an established brand but far enough away from the mainstream to be somewhat unique

What is it going to take to CONVINCE YOU to LIKE this BRAND?

>>14976986
This. Little do they know, all they exude is
>I cant afford patek so Ill just buy VC since they give enormous discounts because nobody buys them and pretend I like it
Buying VC is like buying rolex replica. Even worse

>>14976996
Many people buy Vacheron. It wasn't that long ago when they were a very hot brand and it was hard to get their popular brands, just like Rolex today; but then the Chinese market tanked, they sold a *lot* of watches there. They ended up with lots of unsold stock they had to get rid of and it ended up in the grey market so second hand prices tanked. Vacheron have always depreciated but it's got worse in recent years.

for me, it's the chronometre bleu, the prettiest of watches

>>14977019
FP Journe would be 100 times better if they didn't used those ugly teardrop hands.

>>14977019
Some day I'll have one, Eventually™

>>14977019
FREDERICO PEDERICO DE LA JOURNE
IVENTORO DI FECALIS

>>14976481

No

New Casio A1000M with an all steel case and band; negative display is dim but so far I actually prefer that

Jesus I'm so hungover.

>>14977019
It's a great watch but now it's massively overpriced on the second hand market and impossible to order at a FPJ boutique.

>>14975750
>>14976231
based

>>14976458
Lmao. How high on your own supply can you possibly be?

>>14977072
damn thats a really nice watch... i just cant into anything that doesnt have the normal 1-12 setup or just nothing. drink lots of water bro

Is Guinand any good?

LONGJEANS

>>14975853
I picked up the black one a few days ago. I think it looks awesome. Sorry about my wrist. My work jacket rubs the hair of my wrists.

>>14977136
Naturally forgot pic related.

>>14977022
Exactly my thoughts when I first saw them, but after a while they grew on me. Now I really appreciate how they look like one solid piece

>>14977150
Same

>Decide to insure some of my watches
>Apparently it’s fucking impossible to get them appraised and my local fancy jewelers refuse to point me to appraisers

What the fuck? Why is it so hard to get this done? I even checked the society of appraisers website and the nearest one registered on there is like 3 hours away, and I’m in a major metropolitan city on the east coast.

Need to buy more gold first before I go all in on a watch that will retain value.

>>14977455
Fuck that. Buy what you like. A watch as an investment is fricking retarded. To get your money back and make a decent profit, you'll have to:
>Pick the right fricking watch.
Just because it's expensive now doesn't mean it will go up in the future
>Take it from the store, new in box, and lock it away somewhere safe.
You might have seen on Antiques Roadshow where the dude bought a Rolex in the 70's for $300 that was valued at $700,000. The big reason for that is that he happened to pick the right watch and then stuck it in a safe deposit box and pretty much forgot about it. He's got all the original packaging and paperwork, and according to the expert it qualifies as "new old stock" which brings the premium pricing. And he happened to pick a watch that became rare and valuable. But when he bought it, it was just another watch. So think about that, you'll never get to wear it, enjoy it, or show it off. Sure, you can tell folks you've got a $10,000 watch in a safe, but who gives a shit? Buy a watch you like and wear it. Take your money and put it into a low risk in EFT. I promise you you'll get a better return on investment.
BTW, I have yet to see someone wear one of those Casios and not get complemented on it. It might not bring the oooh's and ahhh's of a luxury brand, but people, even non-watch people think they are cool as shit.

>>14977532
Alrighty I'll stick to gold thanks mate

>>14977019
Everything about it perfect but the price. Maybe those tear drop hands could be changed but otherwise I want one so bad.
Never will though, so what's a similar looking aesthetic for about 5K or less?

>>14976908
Globemaster is a nice watch, think I'd take a Aqua Terra over it but I like twisted lugs.

Anyone here have a Stienhart? Some of their models look like knock off rolexes but others seem decent. They worth the money?

>>14977549
I'm not trying to discourage you from buying a high-end watch, if that's what you want, go for it. But buy it because you like it, not because some schmuck might buy it off you later. If you want a $10,000 watch, it should be because you like it, not because you think you can sell it later. The whole "investment" part of horology is because a lot people need to justify their purchase of what is an obsolete instrument. Rather than just saying, "Yeah, it cost a lot, but I think it's cool," they like to say, "Oh, well these ALWAYS go up in value! It's an investment!" Don't get me wrong, it's nice to think that if shit goes tits' up you can always sell that watch to get some money, but your main reason for purchasing a watch should be because YOU like it.

Post lume and guess the watch

>>14977043
Negative display would've been a lot better if you could actually see the time on it.

Thoughts?
I like the size, the dial, it's a chronometer and I like the color. And at around 3,500 new and easily way lower than that used I think it's a good value.

>>14977072
Is this the only watch that has a Flieger dial + large day of the week window at the top?

>>14977610
I wasnt expecting it to profit, just something that may keep at least half what i paid for on top of me liking it.

>>14977603
No.

>>14977089
>I'm a stowa shill

> [WARNING] u/HorologyHouse has been caught selling a fake Daytona, multiple customers coming forward saying they have been scammed - details within

kek

For me it's the F105W-1A, an affordable, high quality, durable watch that will last many years.

Gulf or Martini and what color dial?

What are the best sites to discover new and unusual watches?

All the major forums and watch blogs are suffering from a severe case of groupthink and parrotting. They keep recommending the same exact shit over and over. Everyone has the same damn watch now. Even worse usually some microbrand faggot will befriend the mods and it's over. Some shitty watch with comic sans in the dial will be shilled endlessly.

I just want to learn about something new each day if that isn't too much to ask.

>>14977691
This watch is so lightweight that I can't even feel it on my wrist. This is pretty weird after wearing a 100g+ watch, but in a good way.

>>14977679
https://youtube.com/watch?v=28-aZJJNMkE
>makes a video about spotting a fake Rolex
>sells a fake Rolex
What did he mean by this?

>>14977747
Watchfinder occasionally makes vids on unusual watches. May as well go through their vids and see if you find something interesting.

Do we like Blancpain in these threads? I don't lurk enough to remember.
This is basically my idea of a perfect watch. Super simple and clean dress watch with a white dial, Roman numerals, and a big date. I hate 99% of date windows but Blancpain's grande dates just do it for me.
I will own this sooner rather than later.

>>14977791
Nice Frederick Constant homage

>>14977791
I dont find any of their watchs attractive, however I respect their heritage and the fact that they are sponsoring an auto racing series.
They do, however fall into the (overpriced?) SWISS MADE category which Id let you decide how much you trust the manufacturer on not commissioning and outsourcing their parts and charging SWISS MADE money anyway.

>>14977791
Nothing wrong with Blancpain at all except their depreciation if bought new so look to purchase grey market or second hand.

>>14977775
What happened, is there a reddit/wus thread?

>>14977938
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/ewojle/warning_uhorologyhouse_has_been_caught_selling_a/

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=722353

tl;dr - Australian YT watch channel and head admin for the largest Aus FB watch group gets caught selling fake Daytona and the buyer posts about it. Then more people start saying he also sold them fake watches or simply took their money and then said the watch got lost in the post / kept stalling for months saying it's on the way. He's now deleted the YT channel, his Instagram and his Twitter.

I don't like Archie but his reaction to this is great - https://youtu.be/qLDbNiwYPc4?t=720

>>14977676
You're talking about an entirely German highly decorated hand assembled/regulated/decorated watch on an ETA base and saying it should be 300€ because in some fever dream you had at one point in the past they were. You can't even get the fucking elabore grade movement for that price, let alone with all the decorations and regulation they do to it. I don't really care if you buy a knockoff with an NH35/Miyota8215/DG28 for less than $300, but you're sure as shit never going to get what either Stowa or Laco (let alone IWC) put into their Fliegers for that price, no matter how many times you say the word shill on the internet.

>>14977972
>defending german christopher ward this much
kek

>>14976715

Which model is that?

>>14977973
For fucks sake mate. There's nothing wrong with Christopher Ward either you twat. Go be a dumb nigger somewhere else.

>>14977969
The phat phucker is right for once. What kind of moron would send that much money direct to some random bloke on a forum. That's just asking for trouble.

>>14977989
This is how I know you are an ignorant poorfag. Golf clap. Nobody can say I didn't try to help you.

anyone have experience with geckota watches?
I've bought a couple straps from watch gecko and this racing chrono looks nice but idk anything about this brand

>>14978029
also any recs for similarly styled racing chronos?

>>14977969
>Then more people start saying he also sold them fake watches or simply took their money and then said the watch got lost in the post / kept stalling for months saying it's on the way.
Honestly this sounds like people jumping on the bandwagon to get some free money.

>>14978038
Nah. If you read the threads there's tons of evidence about it being something he did to lots of people. Also those people have no legal claim to get any money back. They sent money via wire-transfers to his bank account! That is not the same as buying from a store / company / AD / etc because there you do have consumer protection laws to use and can get the police involved.

>>14978016
I'm an ignorant poorfag for saying that there isn't anything wrong with the $800-1k price range provided you understand what you're getting? You're not helping anyone here mate, all you're doing is trying to drag decent brands who compete in a different market through the mud. There's nothing wrong with deciding that a $700 watch is a better buy for you than a $7k steel sports Rolex and accepting your means there. Sure, it won't have the same resale value, but for fucks sake if you're buying any watch primarily as an investment strategy you're missing the fucking point and will lose your damn shirt on even most of the offerings by the big 3.

There is nothing wrong with getting a $1000 Sinn or Damasko or Laco or Stowa or CW and saying, that's good enough for me. For fucks sake that's still going to be a better watch than pretty much anything you'll see on anyone else's wrist in your daily life. I work with financial systems engineers and these fuckers wear apple watches and casios to their $150k + options jobs, so you're not going to get funny looks for wearing something that isn't a damn Rolex.

>>14978029
They seem to try, but otherwise always seem to miss their mark by a few degrees. I think it comes down to the owners being a bunch of young enthusiasts looking to fill some market niches, but ultimately failing either because they are sacrificing some details or dont have the nuances down of the whole package, or trying to sell their own idea.
I have their K01-L5 and while I love the Panerai-style simplistic dial, the strong lume that lets me know the time even at a glance in the middle of the night, the generic case choice is entirely too thick for their options (three hand dials with casings housing date-movements and stil letting copious mm of space), being somewhere at around 14mm thick and the heavyness of such a simple design always seems to put me off. If I were to imagine Id have one of their fliegers with the same brushed case and polished bezel, it wouldnt really work. They also love to make their hands in polished finish, which again goes against the whole tool-military aesthetic. Their new releases are also extremely overpriced and theirolder watches can be found either on salers deals or used market at much much cheaper(read: new release €500, after a few years €80-€150).

tl:dr I understand their ideas, but the execution is always somehow shoddy or not refined, with the prices never really matching. They need to get some thinner cases.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/ew3smz/omega_speedmaster_gemini_iv_got_it_for_my_18th/
>all the seething poorfags in the comments

>>14977557
I second this question

>>14978081
Congratulations bud, you picked better parents. Hope you're real proud.

>>14976363
>Do you really think that people buying Stowa and Laco Fliegers aren't aware that there are Chinese knockoffs and quartz AliExpress specials?
lmao
>he doesn't know
those knock off stowas come from the sake stock as the real ones since they're made in china
>made in germany
holy shit did you actually believe the guy that owns stowa?
he was left with his dick in his hands and nothing to say when this was all exposed on WUS that some random chink brand was using stowa branded cases for their own work, thus proving that stowas are about as german those cobbled together ukrainian chop shop "100% real WW2 Luftwaffe pilot watch real antique RARE".
you overpaid big time lol

>>14976030
>What are these?
Mine is a Zelos Great White

>>14978102
HIIIiiii! This Mahk from Lawng Island Watch daht cahm! Take a look at my new line of Fliegers! Very excited for these!

>>14978081
> seething poorfags
so exactly like this general then

>>14977972
>You're talking about an entirely German
is this a new leddit pasta or something?

>>14978102
Nigger you can tour their damn factory. The unfinished case blanks for most of their models are from Fricker out of Germany, and the rest are blanks from China which are then finished in Germany on the same assembly line as the Fricker ones. For fucks sake, the case blanks for Omega come from China too and Omegas are 5 times the price. What are you expecting out of a watch under 1000€?

The only brand I can think of in that 1000€ range that completely cnc's their own case blanks is Damasko (and Seiko/Citizen lmao), literally everyone else in the price range uses case blanks from some external contractor, some in Germany, some in Slovakia and some in China. The Chinese clones are often imitating the final product and probably are buying the same case blanks as the lower end Stowa's but to say Stowa's are entirely assembled and finished in China just because their lower end models use a different case blank manufacturer than their mid and high range is fucking nonsense.

>>14978117
I'll say the same thing I said to the other guy, you can tour their fucking factory you dumb nigger.

thoughts? prestigious or shitter? will people think I'm poor?

>tfw the watch circlejerk subreddit is funnier than these threads
How will 4trannies ever recover?

>>14978120
>>14978122

>>14978124
The materials and design are dated for me to be honest. Aluminum bezel, standard steel nothing you can't find on an Invicta. Lots of people love that model though.

>>14978122
wow we got a real delusional here
ate the marketing hook, line and sinker
we get it, you got conned into spending money no need to keep embarrassing yourself any further lmao

>>14978133
what's a better daily wearer around $1500? I really like Omega

loving this thing

>>14978120
>Fricker
Stowa used German made cases years ago. They changed to a Chinese supplier that they refused to divulge once confronted.
There's a reason why no one talks about stowa anymore except newbs that recently buy them.

>>14978140
At $1500 Omega is probably the best investment.

>>14978124
>that bezel

ghastly

>>14978127
>>14978135
Do you want to know how I know you have no experience with manufacturing/producing anything? There's no such thing as a "Made in Switzerland" or "Made in Germany" watch if your standard includes that the ingots must be purified from ore mined in someone's backyard in Geneve/Nuremberg. Individual parts coming from manufacturing bodies all over the fucking place is the way the world works now, and has always worked. For fucks sake, Rolex still uses Chinese sourced steel for their steel sports watches, they just have their own metallurgic process not significantly different to the shit Damasko/Seiko/Sinn do for their proprietary blends. The important part is the assembly, finishing and quality control. For fucks sake the Porsche engine comes from a chunk of Chinese steel, with many fiberglass and electronics components coming from all over the fucking world. What counts is where it's assembled and the finishing/QC processes, which Stowa is no different than any other brand in that 1000€ price point in doing, higher quality than some, lower quality than others.

Literally go work on something related to a manufacturing field and you'll understand that it's not as simple as "Made in X" anymore in any industry anywhere, especially not at a price point that's attainable by most people. For fucks sake 10 million dollar US produced fighter jets have Japanese and Chinese electronics. The fucking Ferrari enzo uses Chinese body molding.

>>14978142
Is the case as thick as it looks in pictures? Have never been able to find one in person. Went with the 58 and I love the thing

>>14978124
Looks much better than new seamasters with skeleton hands imo. I wish omega still made it. How does it wear on the wrist?

>>14978165
I've gotten used to it over the past few months. I'm tall and decently built though and it looks normal on me, but when friends try it it can look a bit oversized. I think the thickness is less of an issue than the case size to be honest. BB 58 is a great watch though. Thinking about getting the blue one

>>14978175
nice and thin. looks pretty classy even with that bezel IMO

>>14978124
Unless you got it for middle school graduation and are looking to upgrade once you get into college you're going to appear poor to relevant people.

>>14978156
tl;dr your cope
no one else is gonna read it either lol
go rage in your subreddit safespace

>>14978214
I actually read it. You didn't miss a thing.

>>14978225
Point to a brand under $6k that has no Chinese components.

>>14978214
I don't use Reddit, you're just delusional if you think there are any brands at any price point below Patek that don't use some Chinese components. Is Rolex a Chinese brand because their steel source material comes from China?

>>14978190
who tf gets an omega for a middle school graduation? it's a nicer watch than 99.5% of normies have

>>14978241
This thread is nothing but larpers. A fucking Seiko 5 is nicer than what 99.5% of Normies have on their wrist. The only people who would look down on anyone wearing an Omega are people who haven't worked a day in their life.

>>14978241
See >>14978081 poorfag, this guy got a Rolex when he was 10.

>>14978230
Dude. I really don't give a fuck. :-)

>>14978230
Chinese manufacturing tolerances are literally tighter than Swiss tolerances. Why do you say that like it's a bad thing?

>>14978306
So you're going to talk out of your ass about how shit Stowa is because of small portions of their supply line being Chinese and then when challenged to find a single exception where a competitor at even 6 times their price point doesn't have Chinese components you shrug your shoulders and say "It's not that serious dude :^)". Go find some other hobby to shit up with your low information garbage.

>>14978311
1. No that's not true. "Chinese manufacturing tolerances" are not tighter in any meaningful sense. Chinese manufacturers make components to client spec with client specified tolerances just like every other manufacturing strategy on Earth. The only things governing manufacturing tolerances are availability of qualified professionals and budgetary boundaries, both of which are generally going to be higher in Switzerland/Germany than China.

2. It's not a bad thing for something to be made in China. I have a few lower end watches that are both made in China and proudly so, but it's fucking bullshit that companies in this ~$1k price point are so often compared to Chinese discount brands when there is a massive difference in quality control and tolerances between them. Parnis uses the same case blanks as Stowa for their 40mm classic Flieger, but the finishing, regulation on the movement, the actual movement itself and a majority of the components are completely different. It's fucking bullshit that 80 IQ grug brains say "Same case blank so it's got to be the same watch" when the 40mm Stowa and Parnis are completely different watches beyond literally the cheapest component of it. It's literally the same thing as saying that a Dodge dart and an Alfa Romeo Giulia are the same car because they both ship with the same oil filter as if that makes a lick of difference to the performance and quality of the car.

>>14978316
You have me.confused with the other guy that's arguing with you. Have a good day with all that anger and frustration.

Please stop responding to baits, retards and redditors. Thank you

Know any watch model that looks similar to these? I adore the look but I absolutely don't care about compass/barometer/all that shit.

>>14976893
Thin movements exceptional design and finishing elegant watches and they fly under lost people's radars

I like the leaf hands tbqh

>>14978411
Go through the G-Shock line. You'll be able to find something similar there.

>>14977972
>entirely German highly decorated hand assembled/regulated/decorated watch on an ETA base
Hahahahhahahhahha

>>14978427
Meet too, I prefer the FOIS to the MOTFM.

>>14978410
Right on!

I think it's best to not waste money on any watch brands that yout average Joe has never heard of. It will save you a lot of cash.

>>14978475
So only G-shock, Vincero, MVMT, Daniel Wellington and Fossil? Got it.

>>14978521
I didn't mean zoomers but rather actual adults.

>>14978525
There are many more adults with Fossil group fashion garbage than there are Rolex's in circulation. Most average Joe's know the name Rolex but have no fucking clue what a Rolex even looks like.

>>14978475
Well, not buying an expensive luxury item well obviously save you a lot of cash. Life's about getting your shit off and expressing yourself though, not just existing efficently or frugally.

>>14977603
I think steinhart offers good bang for buck. Lots of interesting desings to choose from, reliable swiss movements and fair prices.

Watch snobs hate them because their bread and butter is hommaging expensive brands, especialy Rolex. Also no heritage, brand was founded like yesterday or something.

>>14977616
Kamasu?

>>14978575
>2001
>yesterday

>>14978560
>Life's about getting your shit off and expressing yourself though, not just existing efficently or frugally
Why?

>>14978594
Because what's the point of existing if you don't enjoy it? This thread has (I hope) a higher percentage of professionals than most 4chan threads. Why expend all the time and effort on building yourself if you're not going to enjoy the rewards?

>>14978585
come back in 50 years

>>14978581
Yup. Got it last week and have been enjoying it so far

>>14978575
The titanium 500 looks nice but that’s their only design I like. Not a fan of homages. I like creativity

is almost every dive watch basically an homage anyway? they pretty much all look the same

>>14978637
Nah. Some are original. Seiko and Orient tend to do their own thing.
Steinhart, while good quality is almost all Rolex homages (except the titanium 500).

>>14978120
There is a watch industry in Slovakia?

>>14978427

>>14978656
Lmao this can’t be real. Even reddit isn’t this delusional

>>14978521
>fossil
Almost everyone I know uses a fossil automatic and brags about it like their chinkshit movement the best in the world

>>14978029
>tfw cant afford pic related

post your dream watches, if money was no option

>>14978177
>BB58
>the blue one
But there's only the one color for the BB58.

>>14978622
I have considered Kamasu as affordable, somewhat dressier diver but I hate the date window on it. In the pictures it always looks crooked and unrefined. Wish they used simple date only window with colour matched datewheel.

>>14978685
Patek 5711/1A

>>14978655
No, but there is quite a metalurgie industry. A lot of European steel comes from Slovakia and Moravia in Czechia (as well as Ukraine, Poland and Western Russia to a slightly lesser extent). The watches aren't made in Slovakia but the unpolished/finished case blanks often are.

>>14978685
Along with a chronometre bleu & a lange 1815 chrono.

>>14978693
date complications are a meme anyway
they look ugly 90% of the time

>>14978693
Date window looks fine to me in >>14974630. I’m using mine as more of a sports watch for swimming, skiing, and hiking since I usually use a dark blue suit that it won’t match for formals

>>14978731
Fellow chronometre bleu patrician, is there anything more reasonably priced that will satiate us? Something with a blue dial, art nouveau hands/numerals, and subseconds dial?

>>14978732
I personally like having the date. They look best at the 3 position usually but pic related is growing on me for some reason

>>14978685
I really like both that Snowflake and the Milgoose. I think the snowflake is closer to a grail for me, but I also really love the new red dialed SGBH269. I've always wanted a nice red dial because you don't see them very often and the ones that are on the market are usually ugly. The GS SBGH269 red teak dial is just beautiful.

>>14978738
There are nice dressy watches with blue dials I'm sure, but I doubt any will have the same magic that the Journe does.

>>14978685
Honestly I’m happy with what I have.
>Tisell Bauhaus
>Orient Kamasu
>Vostok Komandirskie

>>14978739
6 o’clock is an okay position, too. 4:30 is god-awful

>>14978081
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>14978740
>SGBH269
almost posted that since I love less traditional dial colors like my alpinist, but I think spring drive is really cool.

>>14978766
Agreed. Can’t stand 4:30 dates

This thread has gone on successfully long enough

Post bocktoks and shit

>>14978774
Bostok owners dont spend their time shitposting on image boards

>>14978778
that’s because they’re working in labor camps for sixty cents an hour in moldova

>>14978685

>>14978774
In transit

>>14978778
What do they spend their time doing? Have one on the way and would like to know what I have instore

>>14978785
Did I buy your watch lmao?

>>14976231
>>14977087
How much would I have to pay for a semenmaster just like that ? Can I get one of 3k ?

>>14978739
Love mine. Didn't like the look of the bracelet though, so I went for the strap. Wasn't fond of the stock strap either, but at least I got the watch a bit cheaper without the bracelet

>>14978739
>>14978815
forgot pic

>>14978820
mall shitter, looks like a toy

>>14978811
i paid 2.5k for mine a while back. used but was in perfect condition and came w/ box and papers.

seems like the price for these went up a bit on these since the new wave dials came out, but you should still be able to get them for a bit less than 3k

>>14977981
It's the 1-second-per-year Citizen 0100 AQ6020-53X

>>14978685

>>14978685

I would have said >>14978731 but it's not a watch I can wear. It's tiny. Dufour originally made them for the Japanese market and their tiny wrists.

So probably some kind of understated Patek Minute Repeater.

>>14978845
As do all field watches to a certain degree, bud

>>14978095
>>14977557
Bumping

>>14978881
pardon

>>14978185
I have that Seamaster too but it's not really doing it for me. What's the natural upgrade path from a Seamaster? seems like not much between this and a Rolex that costs 3k more

>>14978892
I don’t think there is a reasonable alternative. Not a high enough density of normie retards and pajeets and arabs to attract imitators like Rolex has.

>>14978655

Biatec microbrand is from Slovakia

>>14978903
Get a nice dress watch, not another sports watch.

>>14978811
Mine was £2600 about 18 months ago, I got it new. I don't like the new wavy dial, that's why I got this.

>>14978914
I dress in jeans and a polo every day to work, would that even be appropriate?

>>14978910
Prim from Czechia is pretty nice too if you're down to drop ~$4k on a Prim Manufacture.

>>14978662
It's from a shitposting subreddit.

>>14978922
Lol fag

>>14978898
Not exactly a true to form field watch, but yes, the Alpinist would definitely be included

>>14978925
Called r/watches

>>14978923
Yeah, there are currently two Prim brands, one makes China shits and the other is overpriced as hell

>>14978739
This would've looked a lot better if they removed "11" and "1" entirely.

>>14978933
*vomits*

>>14978861
>>14978919
I also dislike the wavy dial, good to know this is still somewhat affordable. I really love the look of Omega watches, just unsure when deciding between the speedy and seamaster as I love them both. Just not sure I could wear such an expensive timepiece on a daily basis without being worried about scratching or damaging it...

>>14978922
Don’t wear polos. Wear an Oxford cloth shirt and messily roll the cuffs for the serio ludere effect. A polo makes you look like you work at Best Buy.

>>14978934
I think it's r/watchescirclejerk

Needs recommendations for a cheap shutter to wear climbing and to the gym. I have an orient sports watch but that’s more for swimming and hiking. Pic is something I’m considering along with the dw5600 and F91W

>>14978946
I wear mine daily, I didn't buy a nice watch to not wear it.

>>14978935
Eh, $2k for a pavouk with a Czech made and designed caliber isn't really that crazy. I guess they are certainly overpriced considering outside of the Visegrad sphere nobody knows what the fuck they are, but for a small company that produces small amounts of very heavily in house watches, 2k isn't abnormally expensive. I don't know that there's a ton of value in buying a Prim Manufacture, but that's the cost of having a truly in-house process instead of relying on one of the big East Asian firms.
If you really are about small European companies with no real Asian components, you get companies like Prim which have ~60 full-time employees and sell ~5000 units a year primarily as gifts to Czech government workers and very high prices because of the expensive labor costs of even a fairly poor company like Czechia compared to China/Malaysia/Singapore where the cheaper watches come from.

>>14978965
Old world time looks better imo, Casino Royale memes aside.

>>14978937
The cut off indexes are appropriate and historical for a military inspired watch. I like it personally

>>14978967
Yeah I guess you are right. Do you mostly wear yours on the bracelet ? Seems the Seamaster isnt quite as versatile as the Speedy from what I have seen. Speedy just looks great on any strap imo so maybe for a first watch I would get that one first as it fits any occasion with the right strap.

>>14978608
You equate enjoyment with money and spending. Truly sad.

>>14978972

I checked the webpage and Pavouk models are 3,5k (34 mm) and 4k (40mm). I don't know if you can get a heavy discount from the dealer but the 2k doesn't seem right.

Are we still doing lume shots?

>>14979042
no
new thread when?

>>14979042
Seamaster planet ocean?

>>14979066
Yup.
My first "nice" watch and will probably be until I can scrounge up the funds to get something different.

bet nobody here guesses this watch

>>14979090
forgot picture

>>14978788
Painting adidas stripes on your gas mask, tovarisch

>>14978965
>>14978981
I wish Casio would make these with metal cases.

>>14978877
>email

Even your watch reminds you that you still have emails to answer, jesus christ, it never stops.

>>14979089
Honestly “nice” is what you make of it. Some people it’s an Omega, others it’s a seiko 5.
For me personally it’s an orient diver since I’m just a broke university student

>>14979097
Is it a Vostok?

>>14979146
It's obviously a Seiko

>>14979146
>>14979157
I thought it was a Bambino

>>14974896
Don’t pretend

NEW THREAD WHEN?

New
>>14979219
>>14979219

NEW THREAD

>>14979221

>>14979221

>>14979221

oh good

>>14978994
Yep I wear it on the bracelet, it's a very good quality, comfy bracelet so I don't want to swap.
I think the Seamaster is a far better option as a first watch. It has better wr, is automatic so you don't need to wind it every day and these days a diver goes with most outfits. When I wear it with a shirt & tie at work I just keep it under my cuff.

>>14978662
Most definitely r/watchescirclejerk

>>14979037
Alright sure man, the point still stands. I don't think they're really particularly worth the money, but for everyone who constantly bitches about how so many brands use outsourced and mass produced components Prim Manufacture is an example of why these brands do that shit. If you don't it's really hard to keep the prices down to something that people will see as valuable.

>>14976893
I love that bird pin.