/fa/ - Fashion

>>14961908
>unless you want to look like a Chippendales dancer in designer clothes
Hmm.. Nah, I'd rather look pozzed

>>14961911
Is Bale in American Psycho proof that he was wrong?

>>14961911
You haven't proven Hedi wrong. Bateman wore classic suits, with classic, albeit gaudy accessories. We never see Bateman in clothes that aren't classical suits, except for the scenes where he's either naked, or barely naked. Thus, proving Hedi's point.

Bateman cannot exist outside of the realm of classical suits, and being naked. He'd look goofy, out of place. Face the facts: You cannot be fashionable if you are not thin.

skelly cope

>>14961948
fatty cope

>>14961908
he sounds like he is seething

>>14961929
American Psycho spawned a lot of memes

>>14961908
what about all the basketball players and rappers wearing designer? they look fine to me.
honestly hedi is for effeminate people anyway so obviously athletic people might have trouble pulling it off.
desu i think he sounds kinda jelly and retarded

>>14962373
athletes wear ralph lauren purple label or just have something made bespoke for them in london or hong kong

>simply naked
This is by far the most important part. It doesn't matter how great you look in those $600 Diro skinnies, because you do not want to look like shit when naked

>>14961908
>will only look good in a very classic suit, a pair of classic jeans, athletic clothes or simply naked
What else do you even need?

Actual athletic people look good in anything. Gymcels (unnatural musculature, pale skin, awkward demeanor) will always look bad. Top 5% (mutants) will always look ridiculous due to insane amounts of muscle, look up ronnie coleman or rich piana in suits. They look like supervillains and anime gangsters. If they have attractive faces they are the only ones who can do SEXCORE

>>14962422
Rich is /fa/

>>14962429
This is actually the picture Im talking about. Look at Rich. He looks like the second stage of a boss fight after you knock down his first health bar and he gets mad and destroys his suit by flexing. The ronny coleman one he was wearing a purple suit i think with his bald head and pre 21st century sunglasses. Its like he was on his way to punch out Spiderman for foiling a heist his henchmen were on

The virgin Hedi the Chad Rick

>>14961908
It just a hot take to please his customer base, because only thin people can wear slp.

>>14961911
>anticipating your own get with a Bateman image
fucking based

>>14962656
>legs gain some after working 2 jobs all summer
>can’t wear my slp bikers anymore
Life is suffering

>>14962674
>slp bikers
wow this shit actually exists in saint-laurent brand

Hedi is an idiot and just got fortunate that the zeitgeist aligned with his heroin chic. Now he's irrelevant and whiny because his one trick got exposed

>>14961908
I dunno who this is but after lurking here a few times I can confirm the truth of his statement. Fashion is for retarded fags who want to look gay and cringe.

>>14961939
Bateman would also look good in prep

>>14962982
lmao kinda true tho only edgy skinny fags wear the haute designer clothes

>>14962974
I wouldn't say an idiot because this isn't about intelligence, but his whole thing is this weird hollow purely visual rocker fantasy, this like disembodied sex. His clothes don't address the contemporary world, or people's lives, and they disregard people's bodies in their shapes and patterns more than most.

>>14962471
Versus Rick, who connects fantasy to life really well and is one of the best patternmakers working right now (and who still designs his entire collections himself, and makes his own patterns).

This isn't to say I agree with him about this (I get where it comes from though) or want a body like his (I'm very athletic but slender, don't like putting on muscle mass I won't use)... people look good and work with their aesthetics a wide range of bodies IMO and policing and setting people's bodies against each other like either Hedi or Rick in these quotes are bad. Different styles work for different bodies, none of me, Hedi, or Rick would look good in what Andre Leon Talley is wearing here, and he wouldn't look good in what we wear.

>>14961908
Massive cope. What's the alternative? Being a skelly that wears designer to cover up for his lack of fitness?

Question: would you rather look like this or like a hedi model?

>>14963349
kek

>>14963334
Massive PROJECTILE cope.

>>14963349
ID on the shirt he's wearing under the jacket? never realized how nice it is

>>14963368
Tell me this is shooped.

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>>14963436
This man should be hospitalized and force fed under the supervision of Kyriakos Grizzly.

>>14961908
well, unless they look like fucking animals and use roids it's ok I guess, for example pic related could pull off hedi style easily.

>>14962689
They’re the only iteration I’ve ever liked. Pictures don’t do them justice, and no brands (except chink knockoffs) have anything like them

>>14962471
is rick the only designer a fit person can pull off?

>>14963121
>I wouldn't say an idiot because this isn't about intelligence, but his whole thing is this weird hollow purely visual rocker fantasy, this like disembodied sex. His clothes don't address the contemporary world, or people's lives, and they disregard people's bodies in their shapes and patterns more than most.

Almost everyone can wear Hedi. The misconception that only skinny people can is just incorrect. There are different cuts of pants for this reason. If you want to dress Hedi, then make sure you wear clothes that elongate your body and is visually slimming.

It is ironic you say that his style is disconnected with the times. If that was the case why the fuck are there so many copycat brands out there that spawned as a result of his work at Saint Laurent.

>>14963775

Pretty sure Hedi is referencing these body types who won't look good in Twink wear. They can still look good with straight leg jeans, rangers, t-shirt, short jacket. Hedi's style is more than what is on the runway.

This amount of athleticism is able to fit into Hedi. Bet he is more muscular and ripped than 90% of you.

>>14963880
He is tiny. He just has mad low body fat. Not to say he doesn't looks goods but that's the body from swimming around and doing bodyweight exercises once in a while subexisting purely on cocaine and cigarettes

>>14963419
https://www.carhartt.com/category/carhartt-t-shirts-henley?ddkey=https%3Aen%2Fcarharttus%2Fquery%2Fmens+henley

personally i like the long sleeve one, keeps my arms toasty when working

>>14962422
>mutants
i think you mean steroid abusers my dude

>>14963951
>steroid abusers
All your aesthetic inspo with half-decent amount of muscle are on roids. see Rick Owens or Lance Armstrong

THIS is also roids

Yes, I am a fatass coping. But that doesn't negate what I said above.

>>14961908
Fashion is a far greater category than Hedi seems to be claiming here.

Chad in Hedi

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>>14964032

sausage fest

I'm outta here

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>>14964040

I can keep on going all fucking day long. Those who say bullshit that Hedi can only fit 1 type of body are idiots.

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>>14964055

Vaccarello vs Hedi

>>14963951
MUTANT MASS
LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND
5%
WHATEVER IT TAKES
GOTTA LOVE IT
8 HOUR ARMS
GOOD FUCKING MORNING GODDAMNIT
EAT CLEAN TREN HARD
ONE DAY YOU MAY
>shut the fuck up. You think i dont realize the 300 lb guy of lean muscle is natty? Idiot, piana was always honest about it anyway. I would say lurk fit but that place is uninhabitable now
>>14963958
Literally 99% of people who make a living through a form of athleticism use. But its pretty sad when normies need to roid just to feel comfortable, its like only feeling secure in yourself wearing 800 dollar supreme boxes and ds yeezys

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>>14964061

Dress according to your body...idiots

If you have a Chad body, sometimes all you need to look good is a plain t-shirt

>>14964069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9rBfh8tRM

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>>14964088

Who wants to challenge the idea that there is a way to be able to wear Hedi even if you have some more muscles than a skeleton.

>>14962391
Hahaha
>implying athlettes have actual taste
Athletes are the most tasteless idiots anywhere

>>14962974
This. Wyatt boots and skinny jeans are the most gaudy ugly thing in fashion. Worse than Geobaskets

>>14964011

This is the actual full quote:
>WWD:Any predictions about the next big look?
Hedi: I would need to be back in an atelier to answer you.…But we should drop for good this predictable story each season, about a lean and youthful male figure versus conventional men’s wear and male proportions. There is obviously room for everything.…Besides, an athletic man, or whatever you want to call him, will only look good in a very classic suit, a pair of classic jeans, athletic clothes or simply naked. Forget fashion. This is not going to happen, unless you want to look like a Chippendales dancer in designer clothes.…And by “fashion,” I mean men’s fashion at the same level as women’s. This is what I always pursued during my design years, defending the idea of men’s fashion rather than men’s wear.

Tons of opportunities to wear what Hedi has created. He creates more than just stuff on runway for men. Sure it might not be "fashion", but his men's wear is still very sexy.

>>14963987

>1964111
This was meant for you

/fitcels/ absolutely seething itt
dont you faggots have a feels thread to be posting in
pathetic khhvs

>>14964323
Its called gymcels. I detailed it in my rant before

>>14964323
Okay virgin

>>14962441
You're trying too hard go back to ddit

>>14963872
>Almost everyone can wear Hedi. The misconception that only skinny people can is just incorrect. There are different cuts of pants for this reason. If you want to dress Hedi, then make sure you wear clothes that elongate your body and is visually slimming.

What I'm saying there isn't about the topic of this thread exactly, it's about the way his clothes are cut and fit. Not that they're slim, there's really well cut slim clothes made to fit bodies (golden example: Devoa) but they're not, they're made to fit an image of a body.

In a different direction, you could look at suits with a ton of shoulder padding the same way, if that helps what I'm saying make sense.

>If that was the case why the fuck are there so many copycat brands out there that spawned as a result of his work at Saint Laurent.

Hedi's SLP being the hot thing was... numerous cultural shifts ago.

Hedi's deal as an artist is mining and reproducing a replica of a very moribund, but very culturally stubborn among people who can't adapt creatively to this world, vision of sex and charisma and pleasure. This is not controversial; Slimane cops to it but he thinks it's good obviously: literally lines about nostalgia are printed on the clothes and show materials for SS2020. (See https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-2020-menswear/celine for a critic explaining and explicating all this.) Like "replica" garments, it's cheap and chintzy and degrading to everyone involved. So is fast fashion, which also sells well. There's a thin line between all of these things, visually physically culturally. All of them want to package impossible experiences and sell them easy to people caught in the wastes of late capitalism who can't forge their own way to a fuller life than what's foisted on us. Hedi's stuff just does it with fancier fabrics and a greater refinement and laser focus of an aesthetic at a higher price point.

You can't look at pic related and tell me that looks like 2020.

>>14964366

>What I'm saying there isn't about the topic of this thread exactly, it's about the way his clothes are cut and fit. Not that they're slim, there's really well cut slim clothes made to fit bodies (golden example: Devoa) but they're not, they're made to fit an image of a body.

In a different direction, you could look at suits with a ton of shoulder padding the same way, if that helps what I'm saying make sense.

You'll have to elaborate, because I'm not understand exactly what you mean. Tried looking up Devoa, but still didn't get it.

>Hedi's SLP being the hot thing was... numerous cultural shifts ago.

I'm just going to compare Hedi to Devoa just because you brought that brand up. Hedi's clothing just cannot be surpassed by Devoa when looking at the big picture of society as a whole. Hedi taps into the status quo and designs clothing that most people want to wear. Devoa won't be on the red carpet, but Hedi's clothing will be. This isn't to say Hedi is superior artistically, but he is superior in society's eyes. He knows the rules, and he plays to win. He understands the current zeitgeist. That is his greatest strength. The reason Hedi continues to do what he does is because society demands for it. The majority of people aren't interested in the niche, nor the experimental. They want to look into the past. I agree with you that the difference between Hedi and fast fashion/vintage is the precision, material quality, and strong identity. Hedi elevates what fast fashion makes. This is what people literally want.

>See https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-2020-menswear/celine for a critic explaining and explicating all this.

Critics are really irrelevant now. They were there to condemn Hedi and said he would fail at Saint Laurent. Surprise, surprise. They were loud and proud declaring that Hedi was disrespectful for removing Yves when they don't even know the historical roots of Saint Laurent's ready-to-wear line. Their bias is so transparent.

Fashion critics are disgustingly subjective in their criticism, yet try to pass it off as objective. It still baffles me why they were sucking Hedi's dick at Dior Homme when he was being inspired by previous decades in later seasons. They should've called that shit out for not pushing the envelope. They didn't because the accepted view of Dior Homme and Hedi was that he was untouchable. The narrative was set. Hedi could do no wrong at Dior Homme. Whereas the narrative was set from the get go before Hedi's first show at Saint Laurent and the narrative has continued. Hedi's always been doing the same thing, critics are hating because it is accepted to hate on him. I'm actually surprised you place weight on critics when it is proven again and again that their views do not represent what the market wants. In the past, they were able to influence and dictate the market, but that power is now long gone for them. They're just a form of archaism now. Tons of critics applauded Raf Simons' work at Calvin Klein...and guess what happened to that. They are out of touch with reality.

>>14962373
Rappers aren't athletes unless you got brainwashed by BBC porn into thinking all Blacks are athletes

Reading her piece:

>It will also inevitably catch criticism for his casting—there were only three black models on what appeared to be an otherwise all-Caucasian runway.

Hmm...I wonder why she conveniently neglected mentioning there was also 1 Asian model. This is because it weakens her narrative. She's so transparent that it isn't even funny. She tries to pretend she's not the one doing the criticizing...pathetic.

> That lack of diversity might be a preventative to this Celine collection speaking as widely as it could across today’s generation. But somehow the habitual narrowness of his focus missed the inclusive way that kids see the world today.

Couple of key things. Society hasn't shifted enough yet. Celine isn't just any brand, it is a French brand. That is its identity. A certain type of customer is attracted to this type of identity, and they're not the ones that are interested in seeing non-caucasians being the official face of the brand. One of the largest markets for them is Asia. Asians see brands that take this type of approach as higher class and more refined. I can't speak for black people, but I'm guessing black people who are interested in expensive French fashion want to be associated with the story of something that can elevate them. This is just people's psychology, the grass is always greener.

The ones who complain about lack of diversity, and lack of inclusiveness are loud, but they're not speaking with their wallets, so they are ignored. Simple. I'm not saying what is right or wrong, but I'm saying the market dictates everything.

>>14961908
>Implying anything else than 30s-mid century menswear is needed
You imbecile.

>>14964557
Yeah man you totally don't look like a pozzed boytoy in these Hedi clothes

>>14961939
Don't listen to that poof.

Pic related ends that man's entire career

>>14964563
>B-buy my clothes you emasculated men, no need to be fit and virile!

>>14962391
No, they wear sweatpants and hoodies, which according to all the female-centric memes I've seen lately is apparently super attractive.

>>14964566
Whoops lol

>>14964563
w2c a belt this thin??

>>14964802
I got mine from a local beltmaker, around 20mm in diameter. Look for small shops and stuff, most mainstream brands sell oversized belts that look out of place with more formal trousers. Also make sure the belt loops are small as well so the belt doesn't swim in them.

>>14961908
skinnyfag cope desu

sorry Heidi I have to bench 225 once in my life

Don't be roided and don't be a skeleton. Be OTTERMODE.

HEDI SLIMANE IS THE BEST

>>14963368
i'd rather look like this desu

>>14963908
I'm almost this lean and never do drugs. I don't even eat particularly well, I'm just conscious of what i'm consuming and do a lot of cardio. People really have no idea how much fat they can stand to lose, it's not benefiting them in the slightest.

>>14963797
I have a pair of True Religions (it was an unwanted gift) that have the zips;
the fit was hilarious though, I need to take them to a tailor to make them skinny