/fa/ - Fashion

>>14908628
Thoughts on divers that don’t have circular indicators?

>>14908650
It has to match the suit you mong

>>14908653
Pro tip, a shitty industrial looking nylon strap don't match with a suit and you're not James Bond.

>>14908650

Have a look at Drake's lookbooks to see how it's done. This is all shit.

>>14908658
>>14908658
1. I said nato not zulu like most of those are
2. You have zero colour coordination
2.

>>14908679
That's because you're subconsciously racist and don't expect a nigger to look classy so they get away with it. A leather or suede strap in similar colour would fit much better.

>>14908700
1. ZULU is just a shittier version of NATO. They're both garbage.
2. No, it's what the average nato retard enthusiast like because it add funky fun colours.

>>14908761
If that’s the average nato enthusiast, then they’re retarded. A bond nato on a black diver with a charcoal suit would look fine

>>14908776
Could even make a dark red coloured one look good with cherry leather

>>14908781
Though at that point I’d probably just use a leather strap

rate my new watch, vintage 70's automatic seiko

My uncle offered me this Hugo Boss Commander Gents watch for $75. Dunno if i should purchase it, i mean it looks good, but i'm not sure since to me it seems a little bit expensive for a fashion watch.

>>14908995

gonna get a citizen promaster tough today/tomorrow seems like a fine beater, and I'll be doing a lot of traveling in the next couple months. I feel guilty getting a quartz desu

>>14909097
Get a Casio diver. You cant get a better automatic beater

Still enjoying my nato strap quite a bit. So comfy. The black looks deeper than the dusty "light" black of my previous polyurethane strap.
>>14909097
Quartz is the way to go if you want all bells and whistles, until the swiss come up with a way to set a mechanical watch from radio time or GPS, anyway...

>>14908995
They may be a fashion watch but new ones retail for around $300 to $400. However that looks like an really old model and not a particularly good one. It's got almost zero resale value so frankly he should be giving it to you for free.

>>14909008
>>14909147
How about a rose gold Orient Bambino? I like watches with leather straps.

>>14909151
Bambinos are fine.

>>14909151
Perfectly fine for what they are. If you like any fashion watch then just buy it and don't think twice. It's just another disposable fashion accessory you think looks good on you.

>>14909104
> Quartz is the way to go
Please leave and only come back to this thread once puberty has started.

>>14908649
They're fine

>>14908707
Oh wow. That's just silly. They're most likely wearing Michael Hill's watch, who pulls it off just as well. You need to get out more often, friend.

>>14909097

For travel quartz is perfect. Have missed boats and buses because my mechanical wasn't running properly or I forgot to wind it.

>>14909284
Kek you may be retarded anon

>>14909290

Or just enjoying time off.

My ETA keeps pretty much +-1sec/day.

Why are you people so anal with in house mouvement and so hypocritical towards everything else?

>>14909311
Because they can be. Think of it in terms of marketing, because the reality is that unless the watch has such unusual proportions case-wise to require a specially engineered movement, most watches will use a general design from ETA, Unitas, Valjoux, or JLC and appropriate it, adapting it to the necessities of the piece in mind.

The average person looking for an expensive watch isn't going to Smith or Journe...they're going to Omega, Rolex, or IWC. If they want to go higher because they think they know more, they do Vacheron Constantin and Patek. For many years, VC used JLC movements and movement designs inside their watches...was that a bad thing? Does anyone care?

There were complaints by afficianados about Panerai using Unitas movements...even though those movements could be tuned to within COSC standards. Omega for a long time used ETA until they went co-axial (which it should be noted no other company wants to touch).

In house is useful because it allows the watch to be built 'from the ground up' in terms of design, but this has its limits. You can get better quality control and fitting, but you also have to raise the price for r+d.

My Seamaster is the ETA, and it's fine. My Seagull 1963 is a Seagull/Venus 175. My Waltham is their Vanguard movement. If they keep time, then it doesn't matter practically. But if you say 'in-house', you can raise the price by 5,000$ and no one bats an eye.

>>14909335
>not the glorious miyota 9000

>>14909346
I have a Rotary watch that uses the standard Miyota automatic movement. It's near shit; it's always lost 22 seconds per day, and it's probably in need of a serious service. The way I see it, Miyota is good if you want a disposable mechanical watch. It'll keep time within reason, but unless you love the aesthetics of it, it won't be worth the cost of servicing it unless you service it yourself.

One other thing I didn't mention about 'in-house' regarding the marketing. What do watch manufacturers have as an advantage in terms of marketing? No one needs a watch, and if they do, they don't need a mechanical one that is finicky.

Expensive houses can talk about 'prestige/heritage/status', but that only goes so far. To get the plebs who want mechanical supremacy, then we hear about COSC and 'Certified Chronometer' and 'Superlative Chronometer' and 'Master Chronometer'. But to the plebs who are not sold on the name, there is the secret weapon; this movement was manufactured 'in-house', the implication being that watches that outsource their movements are automatically inferior...because reasons.

It's a trick, a ploy.

>>14909362
My watch with a 9015 I think has been good. I lose about minute a week, but I just reset it Sunday evenings. How are the orient in house movements for the Kamasu?

>>14909362
>this movement was manufactured 'in-house', the implication being that watches that outsource their movements are automatically inferior...because reasons.
>It's a trick, a ploy.
I’ve known that for a while. Honestly my miyota is fine and I love the watch. I’m pretty sure the 9000 series was meant to compete with ETA

>>14908628
i love the look of the watch, but is the build quality good for everyday use? should just save up for a nomos

>>14909311
If you buy a Rolls Royce you expect it to have a motor built and designed by them. Not a motor from volvo, toyota or volkswage, no matter how reliable they are.
ETA and similar may be great and reliable but they're mass produced and cost a few hundred to buy on ebay and the watch could be sold for 2k.
You obviously pay brand premium for fancy in-house movements as well, but there are still many more man-hours going in creating them than mass produced movements.

>VC used JLC movements and movement designs inside their watches...was that a bad thing?
No, because JLC is haute horlogerie and considered one of the best movement makers in the industry.

>>14909362

I love you, based knowledge through life experience anon.

FUCK SHITTERS
FUCK MEME BRANDS
FUCK SOUR GRAPES POSTERS
and most importantly
FUCK JANNIES

>>14908628
r*ddit watch

>>14909362
The watch for the Norf FC boomer who shits up Ibiza for vacation

What's the cheapest most accurate mechanical wrist watch?

>>14908628
i love this watch, i want to get the automatic as my first watch but its also $1000 i kind of want to put towards a trip. someday.

>>14908707
>That's because you're subconsciously racist and don't expect a nigger to look classy so they get away with it. A leather or suede strap in similar colour would fit much better.

I agree he is a racist self hater. That is why he tries to worship the orcs when he knows deep down everything they do is stupid.

>>14909614
Need more detail. Hamilton, probably.

>>14909629
Mein man

>>14909391
I can't remember what mine is...it's the 21 jewel automatic movement from about a decade ago. Apparently it was standard in a lot of low-end mechanicals. Aside from my gripes about the rate, the movements are in fact reliable if you treat them well and have them serviced properly; there's nothing wrong with them, in other words. But they do not allow for precision regulation in the way that more advanced movements do, at least in terms of ease of manipulation of the various components.

Regarding the Orient in-house movements...I have no idea. It's rated as +/- 15, which isn't bad, but isn't great. Better than the older Orient -25/+35. It hacks and has handwinding (which the older movement didn't). 40 hour power reserve, at 21,600 vph (which is 6 'clicks' per second).

If you can handle the loss/gain, then there's nothing wrong with it...I assume.

>>14909395
If you love the watch, that's all that matters. What I figured out about myself is that there is always a better watch that I can't afford. If I can live with that reality, then I can be happy with what I have. I have a Seamaster, but I could have a double-red Seadweller. I have a Waltham Vanguard but I could have a Patek Complication of something. I have my Seagull 1963 but I could have a Speedmaster Cal. 321 from 1968. There's always a higher end watch to the ones I have, and unless I spend ludicrous amounts of money (i.e. enough to buy a house) it'll never be 'the best'. So it becomes 'what makes me happiest'.

I find this debate comes and goes in my head regarding Flieger watches; I love the look of the Laco without any branding; it looks closest to the original 55mm without being impossible to wear on the wrist. But are Laco better than IWC and their Flieger? Nope. But they do look better....so....?

>>14909335
Thank you very much

>>14909424
Regarding the engines; consider that there is a lot of swapping of engines and parts in the industry, even in the high end. Using an ETA in a movement, finished and regulated to COSC is justifiable for a higher price because of the labour. The extra couple of thousand tacked on is for the name and branding and 'exclusivity'. I agree with you that there are more man-hours put into creating in-house movements...but once they're designed and produced, it's 'mass production' once again. Rolex is a perfect example of this; no matter how in-house their movements are, it's mass produced. So...is it justifiable to pay for something mass-produced?

Regarding the JLC point, this is exactly what I'm talking about. The only reason no one cares about JLC movements in VCs is that the quality of the movement is high. But this is the point I'd make about the ETA and Valjoux movements. They haven't put a Valjoux into a Rolex in many years, and Omega has done away with the ETA as far as I'm aware. But they're both great movement companies producing COSC capable movements. That's tough to do, especially with ones that are self-winding. They'll never be 'beautiful' movements, nor will they ever be haute horology. They're massed produced so the plebs can afford an expensive watch that isn't too expensive and still feel good about it. Feelings are all that matter with luxury goods. That's why people buy tourbillons.

>>14909479
I love you too Anon. Now go and spend money on a luxury item you don't need. :)

>>14909501
The place I saw the most of these was in London UK. I've never seen more of them on business people riding the tube as I saw there on a daily basis. Pretty scary since I never see them elsewhere (must be the demographic and Bond connection). Reliable watch though; if you service it properly, it lasts a lifetime.

>>14909614
Impossible to calculate. You'll have a higher chance if you go vintage.

>>14909701
No prob Anon.

>>14909290
>may

This is my dream watch. I think this is the best looking thing Rolex made. It's so unique and iconic.

>>14909696
Imo I’m not a fan of the 6Hz of the orient movement but it’s really a nice watch and it is better than my miyota (-10/+30 per day).
I’m pretty sure the miyota I’m using might be a bit newer than what you’re using. It has 24 jewels, 42 hr reserve, and 8Hz (28800 vph) so the sweep looks nice

>>14909696
Yeah the watch I’m talking about is the Tisell Bauhaus. Basically a knock off Nomos Tangente but I got it for like $250 CAD. Nomos is the goal down the line among others

>>14909756
>briown and orange
>best looking
hmmm

>>14909756
Rolexes all look the same to me. I thought this was a sub until I saw the hands and bezel

>>14909762
Yeah, the Miyota I got was from around 2006/2007.
It beat around 6 per second, and I tested it to around 40 hours power reserve or something like this. It'll always have sentimental value to me, but as a watch it's almost useless. Yours is definitely a newer/better movement.

>>14909770
I was thinking of the Tisell Flieger for a long time, because I always liked the Flieger look but didn't want to bother going 900$+ for one.

>Pic related

I still think it looks good in photographs...but if you look up YouTube reviews of the watch, it starts to look awful when you see it from other angles. There were other things that broke it for me; no lume on the second hand (which is a must for a Flieger), and the lume itself was shitty. Plus, for whatever reason, the crown is slightly off where it should be (it's not at 3, it's a little too high or low depending on what watch you get). Bullshit. I know it's cheap...but still.

Just realized I posed this in the old thread. Anyway, this is my first mechanical watch, a 1978 Omega Seamaster that I bought myself for Christmas.

>>14909805
Nice; how's the performance? I just got my Dad's Seamaster serviced a year ago (it's from 1968/69)...holding within COSC easily.

>pic not related; my favorite Rolex ever.

>>14909801
Yeah you can do better than that. The Bauhaus looks great in person as well as in pictures. Just get a better leather strap for it and you’re good to go. No lume though.

>>14909703
>>The place I saw the most of these was in London UK. I've never seen more of them on business people riding the tube as I saw there on a daily basis. Pretty scary since I never see them elsewhere (must be the demographic and Bond connection).
It's because Thirdworlder-Londoners are selling fakes en masse.

>>14909816
Yeah, it's definitely better. The problem is that I never liked the Bauhaus aesthetic on watches; it makes me think of all my German colleagues who all do Bauhaus (glasses, watch, clothing, etc.).

Tbh, I'm done with watches really; I have all the ones I need and all the ones I want (that are within reason...if I'm spending enough to buy a car, then that's not reasonable at this stage of my life). Now I just enjoy them in the rotation, though right now I'm timing out the Waltham to see how it varies by position (it's holding incredibly well for a 110 year old watch...it just needs a servicing soon).

That being said, I can definitely vouch for the 1963, though whenever it's mentioned we get the usual 'you can't clap while wearing it'. Now that HKED has been doing variations on the dials, hands, and so forth, I think it's a real option for people looking for their first mechanical chronograph without breaking the bank.

>>14909823
Possibly. But back then the fakes were terrible so they were easy to spot. The ones I saw were real and used.

>>14909808
>COSC

I'm not familiar with that term. It's been holding within +/- 8 seconds a day so far though.

>>14909827
I’m actually doing an internship in Berlin from May to December, so I’ll probably be turned off of bauhaus by then.
>can’t clap
Why? Is it a thing with the movement?

>>14909835

Actually, my bad, it's been consistently about 8 seconds fast a day.

>>14909835
Sorry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSC

General status is -4/+6 per day with normal wear (including temperature variations, etc.). COSC certification used to be the standard in the 90s, and the idea was that the watch could only be called a 'chronometer' if it had gone through COSC certification. You'd usually get a certificate in the box along with the watch you bought.

Nowadays no one cares because Rolex and Omega do their own certification ('Superlative Chronometer' and 'Master Chronometer').

A watch that is 8 seconds fast every day is fine; you can regulate it down to something reasonable. But if it's shifting around depending on orientation (dial up overnight, crown up during the day for instance), then it's a little more difficult to pin things down. But 8 seconds isn't bad, unless it's bad to you.

If you're taking a train in Berlin, 8 seconds can be a problem after a while...but if you're in London, it doesn't matter because their transport is shit.

>>14909839
Don't use your watch to time the trains...you'll always miss yours. They take train timings seriously in that part of the world.

The can't clap meme is just because the assumption was that because the movement was Chinese made, it was therefore automatically and obviously shit. Clapping supposedly would cause the movement to skip, fall apart, and any other inventive thing people could come up with.

I've put mine through everything except water and roller coasters, and it's fine. The Venus 175 was a hardy movement, used in some of the best chronographs in the 1950s. So..fuck it.

>pic related - for years I could predict the first strike of Big Ben to the point that my friends thought it was uncanny....

>>14908628
>> Ideally you should be aiming to spend a minimum of 12% of your gross salary on watches each year for the rest of your life, with this figure increasing as you age. As a rough rule of thumb, your annual watch budget can be expressed as half your age as a percentage. For example in 2019, if you make 150K and are age 40, you should be looking to spend 20% of your salary, or around 30K, on a watch that year - so buying a Rolex 116619LB would be a good choice.

Tourist here from /biz/--this is hilariously retarded, do any of you faggots really do this?

>>14909902

I'm just a casual watch admirer. This sounds crazy to me, but not unimaginable. Sort of like women who spend the same amount on shoes.

>>14909902
Post your watch.

>>14908628

who /airkang/ here?

It's objectively the best Rolex.

>>14909950

wow that's probably the only Rolex I've ever liked.

>>14909959
She doesn’t love you back, Anon.

>>14909805
How much did you pay for it? How do you verify originality on these vintage watches?

>>14909902
>WE BELONG IN /o/

>>14910074

I didn't say I love it, and I'll never buy it. But if I had to buy a Rolex it would be one like that

I don't like big bulky look at me watches

>>14910082

I was thinking that sort of-- the watch money spet is similar to what people spend on cars.. or guns.. or anime figures

different strokes

>>14909902
No one. It's a troll post.

>>14910077

I spent $550 on it, price tag was $675

because it lacks the seamaster logo, some think it might be a redial, which would reduce it's collector value

I bought it because it looks good, it fits my style

it has a suede band which I don't know if is original. It came in the original box, which is nice to have

I bought it from an omega authorized repair shop in Escondido California

>>14910110

when I opened it up, it has the 166.0209 ref number on the inside, which indicate seamaster (look it up on omega site). The movement is 1020, serial # indicates around 1978

>>14908628

>>14910121

props!

>>14910121

once upon a time, digital watches were the shit and all the best swiss and what have yous were quivering in their boots because digitals made them completly obsolete

now we have obnoxious smart watches like iwatch or whatever

people want a regular plain watch

you got a ticker, a quartz, or a digital, same difference... it's all /fa

>>14910110
>>14910111
Looks cool, wear it in good health.

I guess buying from AD is more expensive but more reliable than e-bay and such.

>>14909335
People talk a lot of shit about off-the shelf movements until it comes to servicing the watch. Then they wish their shit didnt have bespoke parts.

where you buy watches in Asstralia?

>>14908628
Someone once posted the markup tablet for most watch brands.
Can someone please post that picture again?

>>14910160
Amazone.NZ

>>14910136
>once upon a time, digital watches were the shit
and times change, pun intended.

Why aren't you wearing Vostok today?

>>14910188
Not feeling THAT gay

>>14910188
Even a good Vostok is still a cheap ugly shitter and that's not a good one.

>>14910190
Vostok is the most masculine timepiece in existence.

>>14910191
Vostok isn't even close to being a shitter.

>>14910203
Says whom?

>>14910188
No thanks. I only wear watches made in first world countries.

>>14910205
Vostok is worn by men who do hard manual labour for 200K then go home to fuck their wives senseless.

Casio is worn by "men" who work boring office jobs, struggle to pay rent and fap their pathetic worm dick in public bathrooms because although they're desperate to meet a guy from Grindr and get fucked in the ass, they're too socially awkward to ever go through with it.

The pontiff has the SHITS, it's all FUCKED, it's all GONE PEAR SHAPED, FUCK IT, it's all FUCKIN F UCKED, I've had enough, FUCK IT, FUCK IT FUCK IT, i dont got a brass razoo, it gives me the shits, you all have SHITTER watches, PATEK AND PUSSY, tanzeel wont give me any money anymore FUCK talking about watches

>>14910213
200K rubles, what's that in real money?

>>14910216
bout 3,50

>>14909424
The irony being of course that Rolls Royces now have BMW engines that are much better than what they used to have when it was still a British company partnered with Bentley.

>>14909902
Yes, this is pretty good advice. I assume you simply get the latest apple watch to match your ankle bracelet?

>>14909416
I'd get a Nomos Ahoi instead but the Max Bill is nice too, it's just a bit too plain looking to me.

>>14909805
Nice watch man, you see a lot of these in bad shape but this looks good
>>14909827
Smart guy, I bought my 62mas a year ago and even though its increased in value it fucked me financially for months
>>14910159
Fuck oath, getting my 62mas serviced was a goddamn nightmare with only a handful of experienced Seiko specialists that won't bend you over
>>14910336
Nice, how accurate are these?

Can anyone rec me an affordable white dial diver? Must be:
>40mm or less
>Automatic (with date preferably)
>Under £500
>Not some second-hand, discontinued shitter form the 80s/90s
>Bonus points for full lume but not required

Everything I find is either quartz, xboxhueg or someone else's old beater, help me anons

>>14909311
I've actually got a decent amount to say on this. Everyone nowadays is sperging over the "in house" buzzword like it's the new SWISS MADE, and they actually have a lot in common. Personally I don't really care whether ot not the movement is in house, I try to judge on objective merit. Manufacturing in house gives the opportunity to make something to fit the form factor of the watch, add specific functions, increase tech specs, allow for higher finishing standards / hand work etc. If none of these are demonstrably better than an off the shelf eta then why care? And even if you wanted in house for the sake of in house they're mostly just modified eta or valjoux or whatever anyways, just like how swiss made only = 60%. That said, watches made in switzerland and movements made in house are definitely "more likely" to be higher quality and have better QC. At the end of the day though they are just marketing terms and do not directly mean better, just more likely to be better if you know what I mean.
/blogpost

>>14910416
Agree, glad I came to your TED talk 2020

>>14908707

It’s not subconscious. I’m fully aware of it you stupid mong.

>>14908957

Are you on the swim team? If you are in the water enough to require shaving your arms shouldn’t you get a diver or something

>>14908995

Your uncles a Jew and you’re pathetic.

>>14909104

Put down the paint chips you fucking idiot

>>14909284

You missed the bus because you struggle to breath and walk at the same time. Jesus I hope you don’t vote

>>14909311

Using eta vs an in house is the difference between being a case maker and a watch maker. You can buy an eta and throw it in a case yourself. You wouldn’t call yourself a watch maker would you?

>>14910446
Well excuse me, all the useful bells and whistles. Watches with astrological calendars built in are fragile curiosities designed for the vitrines of hereditarily wealthy fat arabs alone.

>>14909950
Ghastly

>>14909784

You thought it was a sub until you saw the watch? Do you think before speaking?

>>14909902

Biz has the most retarded posters this side of the Mississippi. Don’t look down your nose at anyone fag

>>14909756
Make way for the goat

>>14909950

You’re objectively the dumbest nigger on earth and the surrounding space.

>>14909959
>/fa/ggot
>only likes one of the ugliest dial Rolex made
Seems about right.

>>14910393
Seiko SRPD67

>>14910416

Show me one respectable watch brand that modifies an eta and calls it in house. Iwc has heavily modified eta movements but I’ve never seen them called in house

>>14910393
Christopher Ward Trident 38mm with white dial.

>>14910466

High complications are for flexing watchmaking ability. If you wear a watch that tells you what year it is as a daily you’re a mong. Most people realize this but that’s not why you need to put down the bag you’ve been using to do inhalants. A mechanical watch that is controlled by an outside force defeats the purpose of a mechanical watch.

>>14910511

Also, being from biz does not give you some sort of authority on personal finance. Buy some bitcoin and masterbate to traps somewhere else.

>>14910547
Radio is not an outside force, it's an outside source of time synchronization. You'll be setting your mechanical watch from an external source as well. While it's valid to say that it's a crutch for even quartz movements that have a 5 second per month error, at the same time mechanical movements with six zeroes precision would cost an order of magnitude (or two?) more.

One thing I'll give is that quartz isn't nuke-proof; EMP will fuck it up unless adequately cased. Probably most are not.

>>14910560
>EMP will fuck it up unless adequately cased
No it will not.

>>14910518
> white dial 6542
wtf?!

>>14909097
Quartz has a time and a place, and in a beater is one of those places.

>>14910588
Extremely rare,nobody even thought they were real for a long time but Rolex made a small handful for Pan-am pilots

>>14909950
Want to be 'kang, but not that ugly one. Seen it up close a few times and the dial just seems like a huge clusterfuck of letters and numbers. Not a fan of the size either.

I'm interested in a Citizen Perpetual Chrono as a beater watch for work.
It'll do all the adjustment in day/date for me, right?
It looks way more complex than my Seiko 5 based off the condensed instructions.

>>14910533
Thanks anon, not a fan of the hardlex or the cum colour but I'll keep it in mind
>>14910541
Didn't know CW made their divers in 38mm. Unfortunately I prefer the triangle hour hand over the cathedral style but that only comes in 42mm, and even then I can't actually find the white 38mm cathedral for sale anywhere. It's just a dead end link on the CW site so I'm guessing it's either recently discontinued or unreleased? Also pushing budget but looks nice

>>14909424
>Rolls Royce
>their own engines
Top kek, it has been several years since they did that.

>>14910664
I think the Trident 3 will have a white option on the 38mm at some point. I think there's a white dial Orient diver.

>>14910670
Yeah the orient is esentially perfect except for the size, but I may just have to compromise

guess I'll post this here

>>14910522

Only thing I like about it is the case size. I didn't even notice all the numerals cluttering up the dial because I was drunk and I am used to busy rolex dials.

Our guy did it again!

https://youtu.be/HFCEyT6w2GM

>>14908957

I think it looks very nice

>>14910694
You should be proud of your achievement.

>>14910723
I think I'm doing ok considering the small amount of money I've spent so far and the fact that I just got into mechanicals a few months ago

Hello Frens,

Is the Solar a good cheaper alternative to the Tank? I'm going to a wedding in less then a month and would like a watch like the tank.

>>14908957
Not bad, but the strap looks cheap.

lads

>>14910780

>>14910743

No, look for old hamiltons, gruens and such on ebay. Much better looking for probably the same amount of money.

>tfw 6.25" wrists

>>14910780
> Alpha
> Omega

>>14910801
hey, it says Alpha!

For me it's the Black Bay 58

>>14908628
All of my watches are replicas. Pic related. FUck the swiss watch industry lmfao.

Opinions on TagHeuer. I know a lot of watch snobs don't like the brand but imo they make good quality and aesthetically pleasing watches. Thinnking of saving up for pic related.

>>14911125
it looks like a fossil

>>14911105
What do you do if someone asks if it is real? They look decent though and could fool normies easily. Although personally I would rather get a cheaper watch that wasn't a fake.

>>14911128
I don't see that but ok

>>14911125
>aesthetically pleasing

>>14911132
>What do you do if someone asks if it is real?
"If you can prove it's fake you can have it".

Or just show them the movement (pic related clone 8500). Nobody ever asks if you carry it right. I wear £400 shoes, why would they question me?

>>14911142
Fair enough desu

>>14911125
I suggest you do a bit more research and take an objective look at it all. You'll probably find that the quality isn't actually on par with the price

Replica is the real blackpill

>>14911150
>the quality isn't actually on par with the price
Why is that? Would genuinley like to hear opinions from people that think they are not worth it.

>>14911105
>printed crown

yep its real alright

>>14911142
How did you get them past customs without confiscation?

>>14910814
Thank you for the advice.

Any specific refs?

>>14911156
The sub has a gen dial.

>>14911163
>How did you get them past customs without confiscation?
Trusted dealers will ship via UK to avoid customs. I've never had them confiscated. If they do, the dealer will send another out for free.

>>14911105

Those look pretty good. What price range are these?

>>14911156
Daytona crown is not printed

>>14911185
Sub and daytona £300 each, pam243 was £180. Join rwi forum

>>14911180

A gen dial? The dial is genuine and the rest isn't?

>>14911194
yes it has gen dial, gen datewheel, some gen parts in movement. replica everything else, including asian clone 3135 movement. Everything is interchangeable with gen parts, even the movement.

>>14911204
Have you ever considered hawking them on ebay or craigslist or something? Is the quality of the Omega decent?

>>14911180
>If they do, the dealer will send another out for free.
That's great, but how do you deal with the lawsuit? Or are you in some third world country that doesn't care about this shit? Because in my country Rolex automatically sues you for damages when it gets confiscated and you get a criminal case for importing counterfeit goods.

>>14911222
L O N D O N ?

>>14910188
fucking disgusting

>>14911212
Honestly, I could sell the Omega on ebay and they would only realise once they get it serviced. There's no way otherwise. My friend has the gen and neither of us can tell, let alone an innocent bystander in the street.

The same friend sells daytonas to make money and he thought it was flawless. He said if he purchased it on ebay he would never know, as he doesn't check the movement before he sells it on...

With that said, I'm too much of a pussy to actually sell it on ebay. I have a good job and I'm a longstanding member of the replica forums

>>14911153
There are much better places to find those opinions than 4chan. Go look at as many independent reviews as you can and decide for yourself. I'm not saying you absolutely shouldn't get it, just do your due diligence before you pull the trigger. My guess is that if you don't have the money yet then you'll probably end up buying something else once you do

>>14911222
>That's great, but how do you deal with the lawsuit?
I can't tell if you're joking or not. I am in the UK but loads of rwi members are across the world. Nobody has ever been arrested for importing a fake watch lmfao. You are insane. Why would Rolex spend money to sue you over a single watch? They send letters to the dealers but they simply open up a store with a different web address every 3 months or so.

>>14910694
keeping an f-91w in a watch display case is the most retarded thing i've seen so far in 2020, thanks anon

>>14911233
Good for you, bad for me. Wish I lived in the UK I guess.

>>14911227
I mean I have a good job too, but lets say you sell even two before the third person catches you, you nuke your ebay account and various chains of alternating online paypal and bank accounts and make a new email and start over, still pushing possibly 10k (atleast over 5) for what, two hours of work?

>>14911254
And then you see shit like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Vintage-Omega-Pre-Moon-Speedmaster-ref-105-012-Caliber-321-BLUE-Fade-Bezel/333465039257?hash=item4da410b199:g:mjkAAOSwz4Rd5d4h

I'm trying to see a downside to the hustle here.

>>14911245
Why the hell not? It's a badass utilitarian watch

>>14911248
Where the fuck do you live, in prison?

>>14911254
Ok but you need ID for paypal and bank accounts right? So they report you to the police, the police have full ID with a fucking picture of your face and your address. You're fucked...

>>14911271
I'm not saying its a water tight plan - if anything it makes me wonder how many fakes are truly out there just floating around and which lucky fucks are getting away with it. So much shit flows through Miami alone...

>>14911274
It's also weird that, after reading up a little bit, the claim is that it violates IP and trademarks, and Omega hasnt gone after that Alpha up there at all.

>>14911271
>Where the fuck do you live, in prison?
EU, most countries have very similar laws. I'm very surprised that the UK isn't, and I don't really believe you, you probably just don't know anyone who got caught.

Here even if you wear your fake Rolex (or a Louis Vuitton bag or whatever) and you get caught "importing" it (at customs or otherwise) it gets confiscated and destroyed, and you get slapped with a suit.

>>14911274
Maybe. Fakes are quite easy to spot because 99% will be bad fakes and won't have box/papers. They'll be on dodgy account and you can spot them just based on these factors alone. I'd be interested if you came up with a good way but as far as I can see you'd also need a fake bank account to get the paypal and ebay account to be untraceable.

>>14911281
You're an idiot if you believe this. Yes, well done you've read and understood the EU laws. But they aren't enforced. You get caught up at customs? Well done, they send you a letter, you ignore it and get another one sent. They chase it up? You unknowingly purchased a fake. Some random undercover cop comes up to you in the street to check if your watch is genuine? You have an anxiety disorder, but even if they did, there's no way to tell without getting someone to inspect the movement and they would need a warrant for that....you get what i'm saying. There are people in your country on the forums who have hundreds of replica watches.

>>14911309
Ok, sounds good mr big shot mafia who would crumble to bits when anyone even slightly official looked in his general direction, there are also hundreds of people who get caught every year, you can look up the statistics on any customs site.

>>14911204

A genuine dial costs more than 300 bucks, so I find that hard to believe.

>>14911274
I would also add, once you get into replicas like I am, you realise it's not the fake listings on ebay you need to worry about. It's the genuine listings, especially Rolex and the vintages. It begs the question: what is genuine? Is it genuine if you send the Rolex to a dealer and they put in OEM Taiwanese parts? Is it genuine if it has aftermarket movement parts? A fair few 16610 subs that sell on ebay will have aftermarket parts in the movement. It gets even more blurred with vintage as you can imagine. How can you prove your vintage submariner case is genuine? Or the dial? The point is, the replica parts are that good you'd never really know without full receipts and paperwork which none have.

>>14911321
>you can look up the statistics on any customs site
Ok this must be a troll.

>>14911328
My genuine dial cost £250 and the datewheel was £80. Alltogether it cost me around £600 to build this sub. Some people go further and add crystal, inserts, crown, further movement modifications etc etc. £600 is still 10% the cost of a real thing and I don't care if I lose/get robbed or damage this.

Did someone say Vostok?

>>14911342
frankenwatches

This is why my most expensive watch is the SKX013 lol.

>>14911342
>Ok this must be a troll.
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/sites/taxation/files/2019-ipr-report.pdf

Dude how fucking sheltered are you holy shit?

Here's just one case from Denmark:

https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Intellectual-Property/Denmark/Norsker-Co/Court-rules-on-customs-confiscation-of-counterfeit-goods

Use Google to find thousands more.

>>14911374
Yeah, I'm with you there. Here's mine.

I cannot justify having a genuine watch. The industry is one of the biggest scams that exist and it takes advantage of the materialistic world we live in. Don't get me wrong, the watches are nice. But I refuse to pay such a premium just because of absurb social media and marketing campaigns.

>>14911348

How'd you get your dial, forums? Ok, different strokes for different folks. Wore fakes when I was younger, now I can get the real thing and find it more safisfying.

>>14911389
Lol nice, I deleted because I wanted to avoid flack (yous) giving me shit for saying that was my most expensive watch. (I love it though)

>>14911386
>it must be surrendered to the exchequer for destruction without compensation
Yes, as I said, your watch can be destroyed. Congratulations. He was trying to prevent it from being destroyed. I'm not saying it won't be destroyed. Who the fuck cares? You'll get another for free.

Either way, this never happens because trusted dealers will send it via the UK to Denmark or wherever you live thereby dramatically reducing any chances of confiscation. Are you retarded or something dude? If you'd shit yourself over a letter in the post saying you must prove authenticity otherwise destruction will ensue then dont fucking order one lmfao.

>>14911394
Yes, forums. Ironically it's the only place where I can be sure it's genuine.

>>14911407
You even got that on the fakes forums? That is pretty hilarious.

>>14911404
Most normal countries have real living people assigned to those cases, they don't just send form letters like the UK. Do you want me to find cases from the UK now, since you're obviously just posturing to appear more "streetwise" or whatever.

>>14911422

Have you ever taken a plane back from whichever vacation hellhole? Literally 80 percent of the people on board wear fake shit and all customs does is laugh at them unless you're bringing in tons of it. Not the anon you're replying to btw

>>14911389
spoiler / twist I'm also the Alpha

>>14911422
How fucking deluded are you that you think your government has the resources to chase and prosecute a person just because he bought a 300euro replica online? If you let them destroy it, that's the punishment. You're not getting arrested for it. I'm done arguing with you, you're just completely ignorant. The only case you've found is where someone tried not getting it destroyed and rightly so all that happened was that he had to pay his OWN court costs for being an idiot. Anyway, just don't buy replicas if you're so paranoid about it fucking hell. Do you even leave your house?

>>14911434
Honestly bro at that point you may as well just buy the replica and sell the pos. Alpha is 1000x worse quality than my replicas and it just makes you look tryhard to people in the know.

That said, if you enjoy the watch then don't listen to me.

@14911444
This is either some serious delusion or incredible satire.

>>14911444
I got it $90 on eBay to scratch the itch. I don't really care what people think. Less people in software care about watches than you might think. It's all Casios and rooted Pebbles and shitty Russian watches.

>>14911309
>unkowingly
"yes mr customs police, I swear I thought a 500€ Rolex would be genuine"

>>14911454
Atleast in my current office, don't mean to over generalize. I've worked with true Omega and Patek and S8 driving brogrammers too.

This is my Seiko SNA411 chronometer. This is the ultimate military watch and allows me solve any calculation I need on the bridge for navigation in a matter of sections. Disregard OP

t. Navy Officer

>>14911426
I mean not that I have experience with importing counterfeit goods but people also come back with the real watches that they purchased on their vacation that they would have to pay import tax on. They wear them and nobody cares so I can see that point of view. However I often purchase stuff for my other hobbies (cars, vintage guitars) that I obviously can't pick up on the country it's in and wear on my wrist and they get flagged by customs pretty much all the time. If you don't have a value on the outside of the package or the customs control decides they don't trust the value the seller glued onto your package you have to come pick it up and bring the receipt to show what you actually paid for it. Out of dozens of medium to large international packages maybe 5 haven't been held in customs. One seller actually put a fake receipt for a cheap squier hello kitty Strat on the ouside of a shipment that was actually a much more valuable one and they noticed. hat to come pick it up and pay import tax for the actual value (which I was prepared to do because why bother trying to fool them, it was still a bargain).

>>14911481
Firstly, no. They are draped in fake Gucci LV and shitty counterfit watches. Second, where do you live that customs love their job so much?

>>14911481
>Casio shitter
>Orders Lange catalogue
and that's exactly the kind of person that worries himself to death about buying a replica watch.

>>14911470
post more pics please, I like it

>>14911495
neither my watch nor my picture obviously

>>14911494
Not quite sure I got your Gucci point but I live in what's probably the best country on earth (picrel) and everybody takes their job very seriously here. I had it explained to me that they literally x-ray every non EU shipment and if they (or their computer) thinks it's over the limit of import tax free stuff they always manually check the package. They aren't allowed to open it so they hold it for a while and if you don't show up they send it back. Not like you'd really get in trouble if you order a fake Rolex because unless they can prove it's a fake without opening the box literally nothing would happen except it goes back to where it came from. If somebody was really hard into it he could just fake the receipt by showing the price of the non fake watch and pay whatever he would have to pay and you would still have a pretty cheap watch.

>>14911436
>>How fucking deluded are you that you think your government has the resources to chase and prosecute a person just because he bought a 300euro replica online?
I don't have to be deluded, I can simply look the list of cases up and so can you.

>>14910702
>Reddit Teddy
Fuck off. Only pic related is /ourguy/.

>>14911535

>>14911535

>>14911142
Is that a tunnock's tea cake being reflected by the watch?

Memes aside, how's pic related for a first watch?

>>14910393
Lorier Falcon

>>14911620
No it's a picture of your mum.

>>14911582
>>14911606
really nice, does it have any cool hidden features? I vaguely remember Seiko making watches like this that were basically digital watches with analog face and they had pretty advanced features. The chrono pushers aren't actually screwed down though, right?

>>14911651

Yeah! Split time chronograph, those are really screw down bezels giving it 200m resistance, and the slide rule bezel itself allows you to figure out any distance-time-speed calculation for pilot or bridge navigation, just by rotating the bezel. It's a logarithmic scale

>>14911535
Mein gott, your country is such a shithole in these aspects. Had a German girl who was too afraid to download movies because of all the lawsuits over there, eventhough she was living in The Netherlands at the time. Love your cars tho

>>14911634
Great

>>14908658
You don't know who I am!

What are the odds of a carbon Frogman or Gulfmaster this year?

>>14911925
99% likely

>>14911947
I hope to god that they have the sense to make it solar and atomic, unlike that Mudmaster disappointment.

>>14911925
pretty high

Fug I think I like the casio calculator watch. Been doing a lot of math lately since I've been purchasing gold...

Sup virgins

>>14912043
>falling for the meme

>>14912059
>outing yourself as having no taste
The W800 and W217 look truly awful, they are only acceptable if you're at retirement age and need an easy reader

>>14912067
What if he needs to actually see the screen in the dark.

Why do people keep posting Casio?

This is a Vostok general.

>>14912073
The F-105w illuminator is the same style as the F-91w, but with an actual light.

I'm on the fence on getting a gold colored casio to go with my recently acquired gold necklaces. Anyone own the newer databank calculator with the non protruding buttons?

>>14912138
Please shoot yourself in the head.

>>14912147
You first

>>14912149
No, please, you first, I insist.

>>14912152
Do you normally get this upset over someone spending 25 dollars?

Your favorite beaters anons?

>>14912161
I hope this fucking cunt:

>>14912158

had his dad use him as his beater.

>>14912172
You should check If anger management is covered by your insurance mate.

I like this watch :^)

>>14912172
my sides, top kek

>>14911254
Or you could just act like an upright white man and not a fucking nigger? That’s just me though.

>>14912209
ASAP used to run this board. None of that /pol shit around here

>>14911151
This. Unless you make ridiculous money just buy knockoff shit

>>14912161
Your mum kek

>>14912270
Fuck you faggot

>>14910694
ugh I want that helm

>>14912323
newfag

Thinking about getting one of the 38 mm Seagulll chronos. Wouldn't it be better to get the 42 mm version due to a chrono needing more wiggle room? Kinda like how the smaller speedy does poor compared to the original 42 mm.

>>14912330
I'm very happy with it, especially compared to anything I've seen in the same price range. If you have any questions I can answer or post more pics

>>14912410
I used to have one a while back, the finishing isn't brilliant but hey it's a mechanical chronograph with a non-derivative design.

I think it's worth it. I'd go 38mm, it feels like a v thick watch with the domed crystal and at 42mm might be a bit much

Newest alpinist compared with the previous one.
Apparently the green is significantly darker, and the markers (Slightly) bigger.

Took it from a fb group, not my photo

>>14912495
Still vomit-inducingly ugly.

>>14912505
Thats part of the charm man. Its an ugly duckling

>>14912508
incredibly based

>that X

>>14909391
Not a kamasu, but I’ve had a bambino ss with a f6t22 for about a year. It’s had +/-2 day, but i usually only reset the time every couple of months or so.

>>14912495
>that X

>>14912570
Yeah, not a fan but you know look at the previous model; 3 different fucking fonts what the fuck is up with that imo

REMINDER

If you don't wear a Vostok you are a garbage human being who should be exterminated.

Just found out omega keeps the test results for all of their master chronometers and you can access them on their website. Pretty neat.

>>14912594
Quartz beats the shit out of Omega's mechanical movements in all of these metrics.

>>14912594
The watch in question.

>>14912596
except my desire to buy them.

>>14912596
yeah but quartz is fucking boring

>>14912601
Quartz is taking a tiny flake of rock and running electricity through it to make it vibrate at a tremendously high and extremely precise and consistent rate.

>>14912604
yeah and you can do it for fuggin $0.18 a movement.
There are cool higher end quartz movements; the Seiko Perpetual ones from the 90's or the Astron. Even Rolex had a crack back in the day, but it's just too ubiquitous to be interesting anymore.

>>14912596
Neck yourself.

>>14912615
cope

>>14912617
Neck yourself.

>>14912582
It's a good job that I do then eh Tudorfag?

>>14912626
Don't bump your mechanical too hard, you'll lose half a second instantly or even break something.

>>14911389
at least the omega would be made of the same parts as the gen lmao

>>14911444
do you use replicamagic or something else

>>14912673
Stunning piece, wear it in good health.

>>14912673
Is this case 41mm in diameter?

>>14912735
stunningly generic maybe

>>14912740
I said it's a stunning piece, can't you fucking read?

>>14912746
stunningly generic piece maybe

>>14912738
Yes
>>14912740
Your mum is a generic whore

>>14912753
thanks, I will forget this completely while youre still wearing your seaworld looking generic ass kid watch in your shithole country

@14912750
>"hurr guys generic hahaha"

That's it, I'm revoking your posting privileges for our general, you'll have to make do with r/watches from now on. I simply cannot accept this trolling in our community, /wt/ has incredibly high standards for discussion, you're no longer welcome here.

>>14912762
learn2post faggot

>>14912789
>>14912789
>>14912789

>>14909643
Hey it’s hammie poster. Good to see you bro

>>14911166
Not really, prepare to get lost in the vast world of vintage. Hamilton vintage is very well documented, so you have a lot of data to refer to regarding references and authenticity. Good luck.

>>14911204
>yes it has gen dial,

>>14912872
are you referring to the shit lume pips

>>14912890
Yes.

>>14910442
cringe

>>14908995
Call your uncle a nigger and to huck his shit somewhere else

>>14908995
I bought a watch from Hugo Boss for £350 back when I was 15 and knew nothing about watches, luckily I realized the mistake I made and returned the thing for the full price I paid for it after it malfunctioned after I dropped it. I have about I'll have about £7k in savings in a couple of days, and I don't actually own watch at the moment. But once I am out of uni and have a steady source of income I might get a steel submariner when the price comes down. Say what you will about Archie Luxury, but he really taught me a bit about watches, I'd never donate to the fucker though. At least I learned that Quarts is fucking shit before it was too late to return it.

>>14908957
I like it, could have a better strap though.

>>14908995
This is terrible

>>14912675
yes

What is wrong with Chinks?

>>14912096
>650 case
absolutely disgusting anon