/fa/ - Fashion

first for double tourbillons

>>14899325
nice tits

is this an expensive cheap watch or a cheap expensive watch?

>>14899390
Longines has watches selling in the 6 figure range at auction. They're comparable to Rolex but a bit more diverse and proletarian. So I'd say it's a cheap expensive watch.

Anyone interested in a Seiko RAF gen 1? I've realized all the sales forums I was planning to sell it on have these dingy minimum post count rules.

>>14899390
longines is pretty good value for money

A place nearby has a Black Bay 58 on bracelet in stock. Should I go check it out?

>>14899390
>Caliber L687.2 is Longines version of the ETA / Valjoux 7751 movement, updated with column-wheel and a longer power reserve. This self-winding movement features a full calendar with indicators for the day, date and month, a chronograph, a moonphase indicator and an 24-hour indicator.

>>14899486
Go for it.

Speaking of longines they should've made this a bit thinner. 12mm is just too thick for dressier watches. Would be a great alternative to the jlc master control otherwise.

>>14899553
Isn't it 10mm thick? That's what this article says anyway.
https://watchesbysjx.com/2019/10/longines-heritage-classic-sector-dial.html

Ill ask this again since I am not sure why these threads keep on being made way to early.

But what is general consensus about Spinnaker ? I really enjoy their colours, and wanted to know more about them.

>>14899470
Use Watchexchange and put the price high, trust me.

>>14899628
They're decent value cheapo mechanical dive/dive style watches. They use Seiko movements, and generally their watches are homages to other designs. Not really any heritage to the brand, but at that pricepoint there are really only a couple where you can even take that into consideration.

>>14899325
This is the most reddit watch I've ever seen.

>>14899675
I looked into that too and apparently you have to have a reddit account for 30 days before you can post there.

I've already got the price kinda low on the military watch forum and surprisingly no takers so far.

>>14899754
Then make an account and wait 30 days?

Also you never mentioned to us how much you were planning to sell it for

>>14899812
Don't really want to wait 30 days, I pulled an Archie and bought something outside my budget so I need to recoup funds now.

I'm selling it for $850.

Posting my new speedmaster racing on the orange real fuckin' NATO strap again.

I like it.

>>14899837
Try Ebay? I wouldn't give $850 to some account on with no post history on any forum.

i used to wear a 120. i like this one more

>>14899845
Not going to get shafted by Ebay seller fees.

That's fine but if you wanted the watch there are plenty of ways to establish that I'm a legitimate seller.

>>14899859
Nice prison tattoo lmfao.

>>14899325
numbers and I will buy it for the memes

>>14899543
Nice watch, blind Michael J. Fox.

It’s up!
https://youtu.be/fmpuX8eR5_0

I'm gonna get a steinhart. Please tell me to kill myself.

>>14899754
I've got an account if you want me to list it? Not sure how the logistics on this would work

>>14899874
It's very Vostok.

>>14899945
Sure, what's the best way to contact you?

>>14900007
bixavos854@wmail2.net

I'll send you an email from my real email (has my name in it). Put something in the header about the watch, or another pic of it in the body.

>>14899941
Wear it in good health.

>>14899543
Thank u

>>14899390
it's a supreme shitter

Hey lads, I'm new to watches and my dad and my uncle were talking about them earlier and had an argument about going to the shower with a 30M water resistant watch.

Father would say just take it off, and Uncle says he has a diesel watch he uses for work and has showered with it many times with no issues.

Which is it, really?

>>14900246
There's basically this industry-wide inflation of water resistance claims.. 30M is not something you want to submerge on a regular basis. It might be okay or might not. 100M is the minimum for something you should feel safe putting under water.

I tend to leave dive watches on in water but take off anything else.

>>14900246
Hot water and steam, especially for long periods of time, will be able to get into the case of a 30M watch. Your uncle is probably fine showering with his diesel, though, because it’s a fucking shitter, and if it gets ruined he can just get another for like forty bucks.

>>14899628
If you want this it's presumably because you want the Panerai look, why not just spend the extra and get an entry level Panerai? It will:

>hold its value
>be made to a much better quality standard
>actually have heritage and history
>be something you can wear for years and get serviced rather than throw it away when the movement needs servicing
>not make you look like a clown to other watch people
>most likely make you much happier as you wont have to look down at your wrist and say "well I dont like X about my watch, but at least it only cost me Y"

Buying shitters is usually a false economy as you end up dissatisfied with what you've bought and still want the watch that inspired you to buy the shitter in the first place.

>>14900265
fug, about a year ago I was convinced panerais were only for nigs, but they’re really growing on me

>>14899628

I have to agree with >>14900265

I perform a simple mental test in my head whenever I want a new watch:

>Hey anon, what kind of watch is that?

If my answer would cause an awkward silence, furrowed brow, or look of disgust, I can't get the watch. Imagine having to say to a respected acquaintance, "I-it's a Spinnaker"

>>14900265
>made to a much better quality standard

Received this as a gift. My first watch ever really. I'm 24.

What does /fa/ think/

>>14900270
I too never paid any attention to them owing to me thinking they were all too big for my wrist, but seeing them around, a lot of people seem to go for the 38mm or 40mm models which seem quite wearable.

>>14900274
I agree a Panerai isn't a Patek and there are watches probably half the price that walk all over them in terms of finishing, but I don't think you buy a Panerai expecting GS levels of fit and finish. The point is microbrand shitters are disposable garbage.

>>14899553
the whole thing is bead blasted, and the strap's a crapper. moreover, it's not manually-wound, and it's 2k+ total disappointment.

>>14900274
>The Panerai PAM00318 was a limited edition of 150 pieces made for the New York boutique. Recently someone posted photos of the movement inside the PAM318 on Paneristi (the OP XXIX calibre), showing what is an unfinished and lower end Unitas movement (nickel balance instead of Glucydur for example).
>Even though the Unitas used by Panerai are usually decorated or have modified bridge shapes, they are still industrial looking. In other words the Panerai Unitas, even when decorated, is not a fine movement.
>I do own other Panerai watches, but not the PAM318, so I don't feel the indignation and even fury expressed by some of the owners on the forum. But given that Panerai is a luxury product with a fanatical following, I can understand the reaction.
>Unsurprisingly this was spawned lots of heated discussion. It'll be interested to see how this turns out.
>Update: Panerai offers to swap movements.

The vast, vast majority of Panerai movements are plainly finished, but to a high standard, and certainly don't look like that.

>>14899470

Just post a bunch of stuff and be honest about why you're posting when someone asks. The boomers on fora don't like liars.

>>14900278
It's a piece of shit, but at least you're young and have time to rectify the matter.

>>14900246
soap, hot water, steam
will eventually kill any watch

>>14900290
cope pam fag
cope
you'll never be stallone you larper lmao
go chocke on a pepperoni

Posting my flightmaster again

>>14900308
delet dis

>>14899486
God damn that looks nice. Do Tudors hold value?

>>14900278
Macys-tier faux-luxury. Bulova makes decent shitters but the design on that one is very gaudy largely because
>diamonds
>fake gold
It also looks pretty feminine but if you like it then who cares.

>>14899478
They sell them for double or triple, or five times as much as they are actually worth, playing on the Longines name and heritage. And they always fuck up one or more aspects when doing a re-issue.

>>14900360
The sector dial one at least looks like they did things right. Uses a modified 2892, very close dial proportions to the original, 38.5mm diameter, no faux patina etc.

>>14900357
>Do Tudors hold value?
The desirable ones (so pretty much just the BB line) do. Check Chrono24, they sell used for a similar price as you can buy them new.

>>14900278
That's pretty gay.

>>14900409
I like it and I'm not gay. Touché.

>>14900278
It should get compliments from normies. It looks classy enough IMO.

>>14899390
Definitely an expensive cheap watch.
The movement is a modified 7750, and the brand has been bought, hollowed out, and sold a long time ago.

>>14899415
That only applies to vintage Longines, the brand as we know it today has nothing to do with that.

>>14900409
>>14900357
>>14900301
Thanks for the thoughts. I don't get it though. "Seems feminine" yet most of the reviews seem to be wives giving it to their husbands, or daughters giving it to their dads.

My case this was a gift from a girl even. I saw the band is made in china and says "Japan mvmt" so I suspected it wasn't at all impressive but I'm gonna wear it anyway. Seems nice and it'd make her happy. Thanks for giving me your thoughts.

Alright /fa/, my budget is $5800. What's a good swiss movement watch of style of pic related that I can purchase that you'd recommend?

>>14900466
Look for vintage triple calendar or "calendrier" watches, you can pick up a JLC or something for <5000

>>14900387
A Rolex bezel notches and crown are nicer but I really like the Tudor hands and color.

>>14900415
You are tho

>>14900443
Women are retarded children with zero empathy. They buy things for men that they actually want themselves. If you wear it only to make a woman happy you're at least half gay.

>>14900482
I don't know what rules you're setting in your world lad, but in my world, "half-gay" people are getting steady pussy so I'm cool with that.

Paid 75€, no regretti pretty happy

>>14900487
OK but your girl is most likely a caked brown slut to have such trashy taste.

I'm thinking about getting myself this one. I like that it's simple and casual (and in my price range). Should I?

>>14900437
>That only applies to vintage Longines, the brand as we know it today has nothing to do with that.

On second thought, you're absolutely right. However, I can't think of a single company making anything approaching their heyday watches, bought and sold or not.

>>14900492
We're still not playing by your rules here lad. As much as you wish we were.

Let's be honest here. You're probably disappointed by what you see in people more often than you feel you should.

Am I right on that? Some people just can't catch a break, man.

>>14900493
No you fucking tard, buy this $20 casio and save up for something halfway decent

>>14900498
non-native English speaker?

>>14900501
What if I don't want a metal strap, or an LCD screen?

>>14900507
How much are you willing to pay?

>>14900501
>non-native English speaker

No. Stupid auto-correct.

>>14900514
I guess I could go up to $500, but realistically I should look for something around $200-300.

>>14900522
yikes...

>>14900525
Ok ?

>>14900522
Your price range is like a goldilocks zone for overpriced full chink shitters with terrible materials, bad parts, tacky design, no artistry and ZERO lasting value. Seriously buy a $20-$50 watch and wait until you can spend more like $3k on a Tudor or GS or some crap.

>>14900537
This "there are no good watches until 3k" meme is just Swiss fucking propaganda. It's like the de beers diamonds corporation making up that you should spend a months salary on an engagement ring, and when they realised they could milk it for more they raised it to 2. Stop letting the jews tell you how much to pay them for things

>>14900542
Post a $250 watch that isnt garbage then

>>14900537
How so? I paid about $250 for a Citizen diving watch like ten years and a few hundred dives ago and it's stil kicking. It sounds pretty reliable to me. I have not looked into many brands yet, but 3k watch usually don't look casual nor simple.

>>14900548
You are excluded from the conversation because you bought a watch for a practical purpose. This is a thread about jewelry.

>>14900501
>>14900514
>>14900525
>>14900537
End yourself nigger.

>>14900546
Just get gold bracelet if you're into jewelry, has about the same usability factor as mechanical watch in year 2020.

>>14900552
who are you talking to

>>14900555
I don't know any of you.

>>14900551
Alright. You've been very helpful.

Ok, now I'm thinking this thread is based

>>14900522

Get an skx013 for around 250 new or below 200 used. Small but thicc, so still looks good on bigger wrists. It's a great watch to wear for years before upgrading to the serious stuff.

>>14900595
ah yes and, dare I say, red-pilled?

>>14899486
Yes, really liked it when I tried it.

>>14900613
>superlative chronometer
apple buzzwords before apple

Opinions on MVMT watches?

>>14900624
the mother of all "viral" marketing dogshit brands - stay away

>>14900624
Buy one and post it here

>>14900624
immaculate timepieces
please post pics of yours for us to see

>>14900631
did you even read >>14899300 ?

>>14900640
yes, doesn't really say I should mislead noobs into buying overpriced shitters though?

>>14900613

>>14900648
6 rows of text makes it look like "instrument" to boomers

>>14900664
I thought it was about the timestamp in the smartphone filename not matching the watch shown in the pic at all

HE'S LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kktmVViVqp4

>>14900602
Nah that's too bulky for my taste.

>>14900604
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well

>>14900664
Print quality looks shit with letters bent and stuff = replica.

>>14900644
sorry meant to quote >>14900624

>>14899707
>>14900265
>>14900271
Much appreciated you three !

>>14900620

They are, who cares. They understand and have understood marketing like no one else since they started.

>>14900373
That little piece of 6 sticking out there turns my tism on

These are the kind of watches people actually wear - https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/watch-i-wore-most-2019

None of the shitters posted here get a mention.

>>14899300
>what you look like wearing meme watch brands

>>14900271
>If my answer would cause an awkward silence, furrowed brow, or look of disgust, I can't get the watch. Imagine having to say to a respected acquaintance:

It is a Lemania/Waltham/Heuer/Elgin/Dugena/Doxa/Eterna or any vintage watchmaker that is no longer around. People wont know, the majority can name like 3-5 brands max anyway, and more often than not they would name a fashion brand, rather than an actual watch company.

Limiting yourself to the opinions of others narrows down your options and ultimately experiences, IMO.
Or maybe learn to be less socially awkward.

>>14900984
Looks pretty based

>>14900984
>designs so iconic and timeless, it's how you vision a watch to look like and only a few brand have mastered them. The rest, copy cats!

SOUL

r8

>>14901138
unoriginal bait.

Thoughts?

>>14901165
NIGGERS

Any reflections on the past ten years of your watch ownership experience?

>>14901172
less is more, dont buy anything you havnt lusted after for at least a year because tastes change, pay off all debt besides mortgage before spending thousands on high-end watchpieces

>>14901172
wish i had never found this place

>>14901172

>>14901190 this is very true.
Also, don't buy that thing because thats what you can afford now, have discipline and save until you can get what you want and get a nice example, don't cheap out on an inferior example when you buy used. If you don't plan on selling it again to upgrade box and papers aren't that great. I'd fecommend buying your first proper watch new, unless you have a hard on for vintage. In that case, do your homework and buy the seller. Matter of fact, always buy the seller.

>>14901167
Alright. Any recommendations for a beater quartz?

>>14901172
Yeah. Ignore any advice from /wt/. Don't buy cheap shit. One good expensive watch is better than many bad ones. Learn to get rid of watches you no longer wear.

>>14901248
buy an eco drive of your liking
if that's too costly buy any timex on sale
if you're literally going to beat it get a g-shock
if you're too poor for gshock buy a f-91w
the end

>>14900546
Good watches are $1.5k-3k.

Anyone have an alpinist? It's my grail

>>14901165
Don't listen to niggeranon, the everyone is a decent looking watch (and will likely get compliments from womyn) although a citizen eco drive is also a good choice

>>14901172
Yeah.

Rolex Sub, Rolex Explorer, Omega MOTFM, any JLC/Patek dress watch, and Casio G-Shock = the only watch collection that makes sense.

r8 my leather watch lads

>>14901415
Not a fan of how they did the day-date

>>14901165
this is the only Tissot I like

I'm tired of trying to find things that are good but inexpensive because they always turn out to be flawed in one way or another in reality. I'm just going to wear an SKX until I can afford something actually good.

>>14901520
I tried the new SKX yesterday and it was such a disappointment, didn't even have a lume pip, what's the point in making something look like a diver when it's not?

Should I get the Sky Dweller or the Sky Kang?

>pic related

>>14900546

Found this shitter while my family was digging trhough old jewellery. Ironically my dad also found the same model with a panda dial on the street some years back. Happy new year's /wt/.

>>14900278
As far as fake luxury fashion watches go it doesn't look half bad. If you're not actually interested in horology or whatever there's nothing wrong with wearing fashion watches beyond them being incredibly overpriced for how cheaply made they are. The only real downsides are the lack of build quality and that it will be totally worthless if you ever decide to sell it on the used market. If you like it, wear it.

>>14901138
that pigs foot looks deliciou-- oh..

>>14900546
There's half a million of them. Orient, Seiko, Citizen and Casio all make plenty of $250 watches that do damn near everything that a man on the fucking moon or a subby will do aside from act as a non-liquid asset. Nobody gives a fuck about accuracy and a $250 eco-drive tough/promaster will fucking blow any chronometer out of the fucking water in terms of accuracy and reliability.
In terms of automatics, Orient, Citizen, and Seiko all make Japanese in house automatics which are durable as fuck and reasonably accurate for any modern human being who more than likely also has some sort of cellphone to compare the time against. None of these watches are going to get you a lot of prestige among AC3 fans but a fucking Hong Kong special SKX clone does damn near everything a Black Bay does at a 20th the price and will likely be more reliable in the long term.

If you're looking to flex your wealth, go for it, but nobody else but you gives a fuck what piece of metal you have on your wrist. Making fun of people for pursing the same hobby but within their own means just makes you look like a sperg.

>>14901172
Don’t listen to anyone on /wt/. You’ll end up with the same boring watches like this brainwashed cunt here >>14901380

Why is /wt/ dying bros? Can we ask Hiroshima and the /g/ mods to let us talk watches on that board again?

>>14901590
Yes, pls leave

>>14901172
The only thing that makes me like my Aqua Terra more than any of my cheapo Singapore special microbrands is the fact that my wife got it for me as a college graduation gift. If you're looking to fill a hole in your heart by collecting watches or searching for other people's approval with this hobby you're wasting your time and money.

>>14901504
You can’t spell shit without tissot

What's so wrong that I prefer an ETA movement in my luxury watch?

>>14900694
I have the one on the right, in superior gold colour.

>>14901618
Nothing. If you dont mind the markup, a watch with a 300 buck (cheaper wholesale) movement costing 4x as much.

>>14901562
Funny you found that. I quite like the movement as it is a cheap quartz beater with a lemania 5100 style central minutes hand. I got bored one day and made my own watch design using it.

>>14901562
throw a new battery in it and wear it

>>14901633
actually this was the last design sorry

>>14901633
>>14901641
are you actually going to make this

>>14901644
No because nobody would buy it.

Merry new year, watch lads.
May we find a cute thicc-wristed whorological gf in 2020.

>>14901675
>hunAnon with his Hamilton
Why not Torley? Cmoon, dont you want a proper hangover to start a new year?

happy new year bitches
YEMA2020

Basedmaster for the new years

2020 is when sub-38mm watches make a comeback.

How do you modify your non-capital watches, /wt/, beyond straps and bracelets? Is it tackier to brush the shiny and chrome bezel on a Vostok, or to leave it unbrushed?

>>14901744
I hope you're right anon.

Why the heck are Doxa watches so expensive? Who the fudge wants a dang watch named "DOXA"? It sounds like some cleaning product.

Watch newb here. Why so many watches call themselves something related to sea?

Like yeah i get it that you're good for underwater trips, but aren't you taking things a bit far?

I don't want a watch named "seamaster" or "sea witch doctor" or "diverX" slated on it.

I mean god damn it man.

>>14901879
It's an homage you tasteless boor

>>14899846
>why yes this IS a nato strap thanks for noticing

>>14901586
>Don’t listen to anyone on /wt/. You’ll end up with the same boring watches like this brainwashed cunt here >>14901380
Post some better options for each slot (diver, universal/daily, chrono, dress, quartz/beater).

>>14901945
>diver
G-SHOCK
>universal/daily
G-SHOCK
>chrono
G-SHOCK
>dress
G-SHOCK
>quartz/beater
G-SHOCK

>>14901627
shit taste desu

>>14901987
>dress
no you tasteless nigger

>>14901796
Clive Cussler novels

>>14901547
The new Seiko 5 skx lookalike? Those are gross

Best mechanical watch without paying for a brand name? Dont care about brand just want the best quality without brand name being a thing.

>>14901627
Is this "denied entry to the club"-core?

>>14902078
What price range, though?

>>14901987
Based

>>14902083
Up to 2000 if the quality is there but trying to stay below 1500 or so.

>>14902078
>>14902085
Nomos

>>14902087
Those look pretty clean. Wish the second hand was like the minute and hour hand though.

>>14902085
>Up to 2000 if the quality is there but trying to stay below 1500 or so.
What the fuck would even count as "best" in that price range? What do you want?

>>14901945
Don’t @me ever again.

>>14902085
If you really care about in house movements Nomos, if not, Damasko and Sinn are the Kings of that price range and Sinn in particular makes one of the best "one watch collection" watches you can get, the 556.

>>14902138
I'm willing to pay more for a more accurate watch I just can't figure out the diminishing returns yet it's probably gonna take me 3 more months of research.

>>14899300
Get with the times.

Hey /wg/, happy new year. I’ve been looking at this watch for a little while since it’s within a reasonable price range for me. The downside is the miyota movement. Are there any similar watches under $1000 that have a nicer movement but aren’t knock off rolexes?

what's the best mickey mouse watch where the hands of the dial are mickey's arms

>>14902215
Why would you want this anon?

Hey /wg/, happy new year. I’ve been looking at this watch for a little while since it’s within a reasonable price range for me. The downside is the miyota movement. Are there any similar watches under $1000 that have a nicer movement but aren’t knock off rolexes?

>>14902230
How is a Miyota movement a downside? I have one that is literally 0s per day. It's not like you're buying a luxury watch so why do you need anything but a workhorse movement?

>>14902244
Fair enough. I’m actually wearing a watch with the same movement right now. I was just worried that they were worse than eta movements at the same price point

>>14902249
They at least won't eat themselves if you hand wind it like a 2824 will.

>>14902254
I’ve noticed that. Nice that I can’t I over wind it like I almost did with the fossil I had as a kid

Any love for the bodoni?

>>14902263
>design so lazy they name it after the typeface on the numerals.

>>14902263
$149 usd for a quartz watch? No thanks. For that price range I would rather get an Eco Drive. At least I won't have to worry about changing batteries

>>14902263
>looks like something I can get for $20 at AliExpress

>>14902199
>>I'm willing to pay more for a more accurate watch
If that's a factor for you then you want a quartz with atomic/radio time.

>>14902018
When was the last time Dirk's watch was even mentioned? The Mediterranean Caper from like '73?

>>14902230
Marathon GSAR Medium

What are the best looking divers for under $750 with good movement and reliability.
Bonus points if it isn’t a submariner homage

>>14902199
Mechanical Chronometer: Tissot, available in the 350usd range
10spy quartz: Seiko sacm171, available in the 300usd range
5spy quartz: longines vhp, available below 1k USD
0-5spd mechanical: omega master chronometer, available in 3k USD range
-2 to +2 mechanical (1spd tighter than Omega): Rolex, available in the 5k USD range
-1.4 to +2.4 mechanical (0.2spd tighter than Rolex): patek tourbillon, available in the 500k USD range

>>14902318
I meant consistency based off it's own timing

>>14900982
Rolex: 9
Omega: 4
Tudor: 3
Grand Seiko: 3
Universal Genève: 3
Audemars Piguet: 2
A. Lange & Söhne, Cartier, Bulova, Patek Philippe, Zodiac, Zenith, Longines, Rado, Merci, Hermes, Frederique Constant, Blancpain, Casio, Longines, Halios, Apple: 1
Seiko, G-Shock, Sinn, Citizen: 0

>>14902263
Kill yourself

>>14902299
>looks like
It IS

>>14902343
Some G shock desu. Do you plan to swim or are you just a faggot

>>14900982
I wanna lick Cara's butthole :)

I want it so bad

>>14902464
Just some fag who likes the look. I already have a gshock for the gym/climbing/swimming

Thinking about getting by first non-F91W watch, bois. What are your opinions on nylon straps? Any advantages/downsides compared to resin? Pic related is on sale for a couple more days.

>-1C this morning
>step outside
>speedy fogged up

Is it fucked? Do I leave the crown out or in?

>>14902528
>pressure testing a watch with the movement actually in the case

>>14902528
Guess it didnt blend.

Combi bracelet and bullbars for my GW5610. Y/N? Why?

Why are watches so extremely fucking fat nowadays? Any commonly available mechanical watch you name is probably two or three times as tall as the thickness of the movement. Y? 15mm is unnaceptable height for a watch.
Diameter is a whole other story entirely, 30mm movements in 43mm cases, disgusting.

>>14902592
The only thing that sucks about the combi bracelet is that you can't change the size on the fly, like on hot days when your wrist expands it might sit very tightly.

>>14902512
>What are your opinions on nylon straps? Any advantages/downsides compared to resin?
Nylon will last longer but takes longer to dry. Never worn nylon so can't commend on how comfortable it is, would be interested to hear from other Anons though.

>>14902592
If you're looking at buying a genuine combi, then a metal bracelet + adapters could end up costing you less. Possibly better depending on your taste, worth considering.

Nylon is comfy in the way it is very light, easy to adjust to your precise specs and comfort, if you dont have fixed holes. However wearing a heavy watch head on one might make it dig into your wrist and for me thats not comfy. Keep it for the light titanium or quartz watcheads, wear heavier ones on stout leather or something that redistributes the weight evenly around the wrist.

But this is just my personal tism and preference.

is there a safe way to sell watches without getting ripped off? I'm thinking of selling a Tudor and buying a Rolex but not sure how

>>14902661

I found a combi for 60 pounds but I didn't know about the existence of adapters and being able to use any bracelet. I'll look into it more.

>>14902621

I didn't know that either. It's kind of a dealbreaker since I mostly wear the Gshock on hot days.

>>14902675
Sell to a store irl or a second hand reseller like WatchBox, Watchfinder, Luxury Bazaar, etc to get the safest option buy maybe not the best price. However the 2nd hand sites may give better prices as trade.

Selling direct via Ebay or Chrono24 *may* give a better price but more risk involved.

>>14902695
The adapters and stuff in the pic are from JaysandKays in the USA, can take a 22mm bracelet. With international shipping I think bracelet + adapters would cost you about the same as the combi. Metal might be a bit stronger on paper but I haven't heard of the plastic combis breaking anyway so it mostly comes down to your weight/look preference.

>>14902528
>not showing the pressure dial
probably had like 10 bar max lmao

>>14900493
Go for it. They look lovely in real light.Also the dial and hands look nice. Simple dresswatches are super comfy and nice to look at. You will learn to appreciate them with this one.

>>14901165
Too big, bad proportions. Looking at wristshots confirmed for me that it's too big, even on larger wrists. Shit will be annoying to wear.
>>14902263
A casio mq 24 7bll does it better for about 7 bucks and in helvetica.

This font looks nice but proportions suck. Should be smaller. Also the hands look wierd. Price is too high for how it looks.

9 months after I sent it off I got it back on New years eve
Its gonna be a good year boiz

>>14901796
They shouldn't be. Doxa was the first brand that taught me that swiss made is pretty much a bullshit designation and it's all on trust, well, apart from anecdotes about frunk mellur using russian movements in the early 2000's.
It's a funny story, I think at some point it involves a psycho forum mod or admin.
My german brother in law is an ardent diver, and, like all divers, at some point falls for the doxa shillage. Being a frequent visitor to shitzerland he was flabbergasted that doxa would not sell to him direct nor did they have any points of sale in switzerland, not their factory, nothing. That was the first sign.
Few years later I find out the guys at a dedicated dive watch forum had found the address of this supposed doxa factory: it was literally a post box in some suburban neighborhood.

More sleuthing and they found a chinese OEM watch manufacturer that was on the doxa list of partners or some shit, and the relationship was reciprocated on this chinese firm's site. The kicker was that on their example page of what work they could do for you, the backdrop image was of a doxa: recognizable shape, bracelet and orange dial and all lmao

Cue internet shitstorm. I think a week later the images of doxa on the chinese site were wiped and so was all mention of any link between the two on either site.
I think doxa had a forum that basically an hero'd at this point because of obvious reasons. Telling silence from doxa.

A shell name for a swiss maker of small consequence (in the grand scheme) that died a long time ago, 100% manufactured in shenzhen or wherever and probably dropped shipped from there too, shilled in diving magazines under the moniker "swiss made" and only survives because of boomers that read boring as fuck clive cussler that pretty much seems to be the author of choice to leave behind at hostels and waiting rooms globally.

I don't believe they can justify their price. Not at the margins they undoubtedly make off lies.

>>14902818
I have zero hopes the rest of the watch companies are much better.

>>14902828
I believe in rolex and a slew of higher end houses (PP,AP,VC, Lange Schlange etc.) and of course the independents.
The rest of them, bleargh.
I wonder about JLC and the lower richemont brands.
Swatch for sure has factories in china and thailand making who knows what and how much, but I have no data on richemont and lvmh, only a hunch about lvmh because they're fucking cheap fucks and there's no way a tag aquaracer is "swiss made" in the true sense of the term.

>>14902849
so omega is not "swiss made"
t. newfag

>>14902230
I really fuck with this aesthetic, also 39mm, miyota movement, double domed sapphire and saphire bezel and 200m water resistance. Might pick this up.

>>14902857
Omega is "swiss made"
Yes.
>t. retard

>>14902887
Pretty much none of these companies use entirely Swiss made parts. Most Tudors are almost entirely Chinese as well except for the assembly of the movement (though the case, dial, hands, crystal and bracelet are all Chinese, Malaysian, or if you're lucky from Singapore). It wouldn't surprise me if many of the components to Rolex's steel lines are also Chinese manufactured and only Swiss assembled.

If you want an actual 100% made in Switzerland watch, you're going to have trouble finding one that isn't an RM or higher end Patek. Even companies with proprietary material properties (like Sinn with their tegemented steel) get their bracelets and cases from a partner in Hong Kong etc. before doing their hardening process.

>>14902887
That part no. is for a bracelet link. Who the fuck cares where that irrelevant component is made.

In fact outsourcing is why the Swiss watch industry even exists. Back a few centuries ago most watches were made in England. But even back then they outsourced certain component manufacture to other countries which included the Swiss as they were cheaper. The watches were still labelled as made in England.

>>14902849
JLC say they create everything in-house including screws and hairsprings, and can also make parts for all their vintage watches. They probably don't do the jewels and maybe something else really specialised, I don't know.

>>14902783
Why did you accept waiting that long for service? I can only imagine how much they jewed you on the cost.

Nice watch though. One of the rare non shitters on this board.

>>14902948
>Most Tudors are almost entirely Chinese as well except for the assembly of the movement
I know nothing about tudor. Where have you heard this?

>It wouldn't surprise me if many of the components to Rolex's steel lines are also Chinese manufactured and only Swiss assembled.
I've never heard an inkling that Rolex is made anywhere but their four Swiss factories. From them having the complete gamut of the ability to machine steel components (apparently a rarity in the industry) to their own gold foundry (which is unheard of in the industry), I would think that if any company were capable of being in-house, it would be them, at least in Switzerland so not including Grand Seiko.

Sinn I can understand. Though apparently Damasko makes their own cases. Ickler, the German casemaker is capable of making cases in Germany.
There are to my understanding three types of steel watchcases 'made in Germany' that the Swiss oft rely on/have relied on:
1. Cases completely made in Germany (most expensive)
2. Case blank machined in China, sent to Germany for shaping and finishing. (middle price)
3. Completely made and finished in China and shipped to Germany to get the label: 'Made in Germany' affixed.

I would think that Sinn uses one of the German casemakers that do no.2.

>>14902959
>link
It's not a stretch that if that if the lnks are made there, then why not the whole bracelet?
And if they're willing to go that far, why not the cases?
After all, they already have factories these. Why not make the dials and hands too while they're at it, and the movement blanks too.
Nobody's gonna know, and it's not like they're breaking any laws.

>>14903004
I have difficulty understanding how making a case blank would be so expensive as to not do it in-house, if such a blank can regardless be machined to completion and finished in-house. Is there some China-style import/export duty shenanigans, or illicit subvention by the state, perhaps involved?

>>14902635
Nylon is usually comfy in my experience. Bertucci straps (just for their watches, my A-2S was bombproof but I gave it to a friend who needed a watch) and Crown and Buckle NATO for the rest. As another anon said, it can get wet but it dries in a couple hours, though in winter that can suck more.

>>14903033
>I have difficulty understanding how making a case blank would be so expensive as to not do it in-house, if such a blank can regardless be machined to completion and finished in-house.
From my understanding working with stainless steel is difficult, and requires specialist equipment hence why Rolex was seen with some reverence in this respect: it managed this in-house early, perhaps before the others?

Even patek has to order out for the steel Nautilus case and bracelet, and I think AP used to have to do so for the RO but might be doing it in-house now only very recently, or at least that's what I remember. Might be that AP is finally making the RO dials themselves now. I forget which.

Concerning the German thing: I have no idea as to the financials of it, I just remember seeing a picture of such a blank that was from China that was to be finished by a maker I think called Kemmner in Germany and an explanation of the various tiers of German steel watch cases.
Buy the steel and blank from the same maker for literally nothing in China, send to Germany to be finished off and delivered to the Swiss client?
It must be cheaper, otherwise the German case making firms would all still be doing it on German soil, something which is now apparently becoming a rarity, and the Swiss brands that apparently relied heavily on this in the past wouldn't have had to get special exceptions made for Hong Kong in regards to supply of parts that makes their prices reek of dodge more than was otherwise apparent.

who's the Rick Owens of the watch world

>>14901583
Based

>>14903080
>you have to be a little bit autistic

>>14903076
Machining of stainless steel isn't particularly difficult (every material submits to tungsten carbide) until properties such as work-hardening come up, and that's with specialist materials like inconel which seems unlikely a concern for watchmaking. And besides, China's tooling is, for a word, chinesium; they can't be better set up for milling of difficult materials than Germany. So there's either some economy of scale I'm not grasping, or subsidies, or a massive conglomerate making not just blanks but also the expendable tooling.

>>14901885
>it’s an homage you tasteless boor
now excuse me while I guzzle some onions milk blended with my wife’s bull’s semen

>>14902230
>/wg/

>>14903004
> Nobody's gonna know, and it's not like they're breaking any laws.
Not true. If a product says Swiss Made 60% of the manufacturing costs and the essential manufacturing step must occur in Switzerland otherwise they *are* breaking Swiss law.

>>14903076
Stainless isn’t difficult to work with. Maybe compared to noble metals, but everything else is substantially more annoying, especially titanium and ceramic.

What's /fa/'s opinion of Hommage/copycat watches?

>>14903163
Tasteless, but then again, so are steel Rolexes, so it’s sort of whatever.

All this talk about SWISS MADE being a scam, tomorrow in this thread or a new one, people are going to recommend SWISS MADE watches regardless...

>>14903163

Gay, rather get get something unique.

Steinhart/Tisell etc are really just wannabe rolexes.

Pls rate my anti-swissmade collection.

>>14903004
>I’ve never heard an inkling that Rolex is made anywhere but their four Swiss factories
If you truly believe that King Jew Rolex is 100% Swiss and in-house, while all other Swiss brands are 61% and largely Chinese, I have a bridge in Chaux de Fonds to sell you. Even the boomers on rolexforums.com are not so naive.

Pro tip: there’s a reason why Rolex brags that their new movements are now 100% in-house: it’s because the rest of the watch isn’t.

cyclopses are so fucking ugly holy shit

>>14903208
>three cocktail time homages but no cocktail time
0/10

Why the fuck do you care where any non-movement parts were made? The only parts where country of origin matters worth getting upset about is movement, and final assembly.

>>14903208
I appreciate you taking the time to set and sync all of the watches, but you really need to branch out. Four dressy-ish three handers with a couple quartz chronos is not a complete collection.

>>14903244
The parts you can see matter more than the movement

>>14903244
Dipshit, everyone knows that Swiss steel is folded 10000 times and has a Mohs hardness rating of 11.

>>14903213
What do the boomers on the rolex forum say? I don't recall hearing anything
>Pro tip: there’s a reason why Rolex brags that their new movements are now 100% in-house: it’s because the rest of the watch isn’t.
The harp on about the 100% in-house movements because up until about a decade ago they were forced to buy Nivarox hairsprings from Swatch. Now that they make their own they no longer need to do this.
I don't see the leap between advertising their now fully in-house movements because of the spring and
>we make everything in china

>>14903208
dogshit

>>14903213
Why are you so obsessed about where certain parts are made? It has no effect on the design, build quality, finishing, history. The only thing it does effect is the production cost.

>>14903154
I suggest you read this post on WUS
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/new-meaning-swiss-made-3917554-3.html#post37369562
what I've gleaned from that is that this new 60% thing is just more bullshit.

>>14903213
Most Lange cases are made by AP. Does that somehow make Lange bad watches?

>>14903269
>It has no effect on the design, build quality, finishing
>no effect on
>quality
>finishing

>made for the lowest possible price
>in china
>land of high quality shit whose very name is a byword for "high quality"

>>14903273
What's worse?
Brand A (nominally German) having a case made in neighboring Switzerland and charging a price commensurate with this or what this is expected to be, or Brand B (nominally Swiss) having a case made in Guangzhou, and charging a price commensurate with something made in Switzerland or Germany?

>>14903278
Tell that to Apple.

Parts are made by machine. Basic assembly is labour costs which are far cheaper in China. Doesn't affect the quality.

>>14903258
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=592909

They literally don’t give a shit about complete vertical integration, and rightfully so. Opening foundries that can smelt gold, or opening chemical labs that can grow sapphire, is almost entirely for the purposes of optics and cost.

Or this: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=19245

Note that the Swiss Made standard has gone up from 51% to 60%, but again, they’re not exactly under the impression that their watch is entirely and totally Swiss in-house.

There’s no fucking reason why Rolex, the watch brand that spends the absolute most of any brand on advertising and marketing, the watch brand that is governed by a “non-profit” board of plutocrats so that they can dodge taxes, would choose to go above and beyond the standards of “Swiss Made” out of the goodness of their own hearts.

You already know the answer to why they wanted to develop their own silicon hairsprings: they were tired of paying Swatch for their tech. Not for reasons of QC, but for cost-cutting.

>>14903172
>people are going to recommend SWISS MADE watches regardless
Recommending """"(()()())SWUZZZ MAYDE()()()"""" is fine in and of itself, after all "the heart wants what the heart wants"
regardless of any reasoning and some designs just speak to some more than others, again irrespective of any other concern, hence why fashion brands still exist at all. As long as prospective buyers understand that it is what it is, and not let the notion of "Swissness" color their expectations or assumptions and thus their willingness to spend a certain amount of their hard earned, or ill-earned, cash on such a thing.

If you are attracted to any given watch from a Swiss brand name, ask yourself whether or not you would still buy said watch for the asking price is it said not "Swiss Made" on the dial but rather
"Mostly Made or All Made in China".

>>14903273
No, I don’t really give a shit about “in-house”-ness or not. It’s typically a term only trotted out by Rolex (and Grand Seiko) fanboys who don’t realize that Orients and mid-tier Seikos have 100% in-house movements as well. Moving processes in-house is almost always for cost-cutting reasons, and then only pitched to the public as a means of improving quality. Nobody in their right mind thinks that Rolex got away from using El Primeros in their Daytonas because it was a shit movement. No, it was because Rolex could get a better margin by making their own.

Treated my OEM strap with Obenauf's leather oil yesterday. Before:

>>14903317
After. Quite happy with the result

>>14903317
Is that just like the oil you treat boots with?

>>14903327
Yup

>>14903290
Again, I see nobody saying that Rolex isn't Swiss made in the true sense, or that it has components (entire cases, bracelets, dials or hands etc.) made in China. I haven't seen that anywhere, unlike say with Omega where it was mentioned that their bracelets were made in Mexico and now, most likely China.
It's been long known they're not vertically integrated; they still don't make their own dials.

What I'm looking for, and it's a tall ask to be sure, is something like this >>14902887 receipt that the customer was not supposed to see.

Until the day that I see rumor one that Rolex has Chinese made components, I can only maintain that they must be made in Switzerland, as seen by a TimeZone crew when when they visited the factories and saw every component being made and assembled. This was apparently quite a while ago however. The same cannot be said I believe of the other mass made, non-HH Swiss brands. Maybe it's a vain hope and I don't even like modern Rolex lmao.

I contrast this with Omega who I think (I don't remember for sure) has never allowed the same kind of factory visit. I remember talk of one but the poster never ended up delivering with details. I know Omega takes its professional shills like Clooney and the like to visit their Museum which in their professional cant they seem to try to construe as a full production facility, but it's just a show room. I'll have to read that bit again.

Maybe it's all bullshit.
In which case either not giving a shit and buying what you like anyway; buying vintage; buying pointedly not "swiss"; or buying at such high a level of a sort where you can visit the atelier and see your crap being made real time are the only options.

>>14903321
As long as you're happy with that shit.
I prefer the lighter leather.
Obenaufs, on footwear, is such overkill for the majority that seem to buy it these days.
They ruin the color of their footwear by slathering this shit all over it that's made for smokejumpers and lumberjacks and shit.

>>14903294
>MADE IN CHINA WITH PRIDE
I would, but for a xxx markup pretending it is something it really isnt.

>>14903344
*but NOT for a markup

>>14903336
>Maybe it's all bullshit.
>In which case either not giving a shit and buying what you like anyway; buying vintage; buying pointedly not "swiss"; or buying at such high a level of a sort where you can visit the atelier and see your crap being made real time are the only options.
Wait, I forgot the last option, which is what I'm currently doing
>continue to reeeeee online in the dedicated wrist-mounted-incidentally-time-telling-jewelry thread in the most homo of boards besides /y/ and /cm/ on a sulawesian anal hair weaving symposium

>>14903341
That's actually why I picked it, because of the negative reviews by people talking about how it darkened their shoes. I wanted the leather dark, and the extra protection is a nice bonus. The OEM color had an awful reddish color and looked very cheap despite it being a well made strap

>>14903348
>reeeee
About watches we are likely never to buy, or wouldnt buy IRL regardless.

>>14903310
> it was because Rolex could get a better margin by making their own.
Not completely true. Part of the reason was the El Primero was a pain to service so increased the repairs costs and time involved.

>>14903336
Again, there’s no fucking reason why Rolex wouldn’t engage in the same practices that other Swiss brands do. They’re not any more benevolent than other manufacturers, hence even Rolex fans on the forums being apprehensive about stating their watch is 100% totally Swiss.

That again raises the next point: something being made in Switzerland doesn’t necessarily imply it’s of higher quality than something made in Germany, or America, or even China (cf. your iPhone). Processes are brought in-house primarily as a means of cost-cutting, not quality control. You’ve already acknowledged as much.

It really just seems like you’re on a crusade against Omega, while holding Rolex to be faultless. Rolex has brand ambassadors, too. Tudor got fucking Lady Gaga.

>>14903344
>>14903347
Would you buy a Maison Celadon?
I must admit I am intrigued.
If anything by the
>MADE WITH PRIDE
notion, which apart from its obvious meaning seems also a stab at those tricksy Swiss and Japs.

I'm not sure what sets them apart from typical Beijing Watch Factory fair though, that I assume is their origin, apart from a perhaps prettier movement and the added chance that it is less likely to shit the bed within a few weeks of use. Maybe.

I'll have to go to HK soon with any luck. Maybe I can find a place that stocks them.

>>14903351
word

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=519016
4130 service cost is $1200.

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/zenith-el-primero-service-cost-4759395.html

https://www.zenith-watches.com/en_en/services/maintenance-rates
El Primero service rates are anywhere from $250 to $750.

>>14903352
>>14903370

>>14903336
>TimeZone video attested to xyz

lmao, you do realize “watch journalism” is nothing more than advertorials, right? Have you ever stopped to wonder why Hodinkee doesn’t have ugly clickbait ads like the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal do? It’s because you’re the product, the watch manufacturer is the customer, and you’re only reading (or seeing) what the manufacturer has curated for your consumption.

>>14903370
Are you trying to tell me Rolex watches cost more than Zenith and have bigger margins? I'm shocked.

>>14903471
I’m trying to tell you that you’re not saving money by getting a 4130.

>>14902512
If you need an outdoors watch the pathfinder/protrek series are pretty based. Dual lcd with triple sensor (although the thermometer reads high on body).

>>14899300
>no aq230 ITT
Thread full of plebs as usual.

>>14903351
Most based post in this thread

>>14903515
>what time is it
>22SSA
uhh

>>14903515
I hope you're trolling because that's horrendous.

>>14903355
So they bring manufacturing in-house because it's cheaper and for "good optics", but they still buy as many parts, not specified in your accusations, as they can from China because of "reasons", again not really specified by you. Or simply because they can and ''everyone else'' do it. Yet they have 4 large factories in Switzerland dedicated to assembly, cases, movements, dials etc.

It’s up!
Keep it gentry, gents.

https://youtu.be/HjEH2nzwJBY

>>14903538
>why would they buy parts and materials from other countries
Cost
>why would they manufacture parachrom hairsprings themselves, rather than buy them from swatch
Cost
>why do they make their own chronograph movements now, rather than buying them from Valjoux and Zenith
Cost
>why would they engage in the same business practices as other Swiss consumer watch brands
Cost

Trotting out the number of factories that Rolex operates in Switzerland as some sort of proof that they don’t abide by the same Swiss Made standard that everyone does is laughable.

https://www.swatchgroup.com/en/swatch-group/innovation-powerhouse/industry-40/swatch-group-production-sites

Swatch has six Swiss factories, which, to your horror, you’ll note is more than four. That doesn’t mean their watches are totally manufactured in-house, or that they’re of outstanding quality.

I literally have no idea why you regard Rolex to be some paragon of good business practice, when they’re the company that has their ADs make you beg and bark like a dog for two years for the privilege to spend 15k on a steel GMT Master II.

The mountain Jew is not your friend, whether he works for Tissot or Omega or Rolex or Audemars Piguet or Patek. Remember this.

>>14903375
shh, stop ruining it. Also, video game reviewers are unbiased and impartial.

What should one look for if they want the highest quality possible in a cheap watch?

Are high quality knock offs possible?

>>14903004
Many of the watch companies are very quiet about where their parts come from. Tudors are assembled in Geneve just like Rolexes but most Tudor replacement parts come from HK distributors and it would be interesting to me that the parts shipped to the service centers would come from an entirely unrelated source that has nothing to do with the manufacturing process. I'm not saying Rolex doesn't do a significant degree of in house work, especially finishing and testing, but a lot of their base parts come from Thailand and China. They used to be very open about all their stainless bracelet blanks coming from Japan, and have since switched many of their parts suppliers to SE Asia. The best you can find to conclusive "proof" are Rolex Forum posts and part sourcing locations from ADs and Licensed service centers.

>>14903590
Is this why German watchmakers are the proper choice for the white AND based consumer?

>>14903617
>Are high quality knock offs possible?
That'll be either a trademark violation, so they don't give a fuck whether the chinese quartz bullshit movement lasts two weeks, or a "homage" under a different brand that's perhaps workable but generally not as nice as the real deal. In both cases compromises have been taken in order to appear like another brand's watch, so the customer ends up with what he's willing to pay for.

>>14903617
>highest quality in cheap watch
generally, your best bet is gonna be a Japanese made watch manufactured partly in China/Malaysia
This includes entry level Seikos, Orients, Casios, and Citizens. If you want something nicer, you can look into Swiss brands that use basic ETA movements like Hamilton and Tissot.

>high quality knock offs
The knockoffs that can often fool people cost upwards of 400 bucks. Check out reptime or replica watch forums for more info on them. They’re gonna have Chinese clones of ETA movements most typically, and they’re not going to be perfect. Indices will be slightly misapplied, chrono hands misaligned, small details out of place.

>>14903590
When you give me facts, rather than opinions, to back you up as to what parts they're not making themselves I'll take you more serious.

>>14903617
What do you mean by "cheap" and "high quality"? Price range and relative comparisons matter with that sort of thing.

>>14903270

Tldr, also don't care. It's almost like advertising is not about telling the truth but about making money.

>>14903355
Been wanting one for a few years now. Planning on going to Asia soon, so I need to have a look at where/if they sell them. Want to see it in person.

>>14903525
are you literally retarded?

>>14903661
You’re the one somehow correlating the number of Swiss factories Rolex operates to Rolex watches being 100% in-house and “””Swiss Made”””, while somehow also supposing that because Swatch sources bracelet links from China, that means their cases are Chinese, too, even though Swatch owns and operates more Swiss factories than Rolex. At least apply your cynicism uniformly.

Or, better yet, go back to watching horology industry shills on YouTube, fatso.

NEW BREED WHEN?

>>14903697
You know what he means you obtuse fuck. At first glance that display is awful. The 5 is identical to the S, there isn't enough room or size differentiation in between date and time.

>>14899300

>>14903757
>>14903757

New

>>14903700
Swatch group includes over a dozen brands and I only find these two factories in Switzerland claiming to make parts, the other are electronics and assembly.

>Nivarox-FAR is the leading Swiss specialist in the production of oscillating and escapement parts.
[...] specializes in escapement parts, rubies to lift the pallets and ruby impulse-pins, oscillating parts, turning parts of very small dimensions, micro-stamping components and electro-erosion.

>ETA SA Manufacture Horlogère Suisse. Its 20 production sites, located in the foothills of Jura and the Swiss cantons of Valais and Ticino, combine the company’s full expertise in the production and assembly of movements and watches that have established themselves as global benchmarks for their reliability and performance.

Whereas Rolex only supply to themselves and the factories are dedicated to HQ and final assembly. Cases and bracelets. Movements/parts and assembly. Dials and gem-setting.

>Rolex is arguably one of the most vertically integrated watch manufacture in the world, and it makes just about every component of the watch itself. One thing it does not make, however, are the hands – which come from a supplier called Fiedler SA – and crystals.

Are there any divers appropriate for a 5.75” uber-wristlet?

>>14903827
37mm rado captain cook. That or the tudor mini-subs.

>>14903811
Quoting one forum post about Rolex’s vertical integration and not the others is hypocritical. Again, see https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=592909

Earlier in the thread, you supposed that Rolex makes its own 904L, because somehow only Rolex has mastered stainless steel in the 21st century. The people who actually own these watches disagree. You think that Rolex goes above and beyond the 60% Swiss made mark, whereas other companies do not. The people who actually own them disagree. Rolex, nor any other billion dollar company, for that matter, is not your friend, despite your unabashed zealotry.

>>14903538
All I asked was would you buy maison celadon but you reply with some other shit.
I guess that's a "no" from you then.

>>14903847
I'll read the forum later, but anonymous forum users are about as reliable as people here.
It make little sense that they'd go through great length and investing in factories and machinery to have control over production, just to cut corners on some things and get it from asia, which you haven't specified exactly what yet.

>>14901990
>>14902080
Extremely jelly

>>14902529
gotta increase the steaks

>>14903966
>jealous of a $150 plastic watch from macys

whats a nice mid range watch brand? something good quality. i know nothing about watches

>>14903827
Longines Legend Diver now comes in a 36mm version. SKX013 is always an option but stock is quickly drying up.

>>14903512
I think they have more features than I'd make use of. SGW-100 was mentioned on /g/ some days ago (pic rel), has compass and thermometer. The Anon said that the thermo was shit, prolly cause of what you said. I think I'll go with that if it doesn't end up being G-Shock, ProTrek is just too much stuff that does nothing but drain battery in my eyes.

Just picked this watch up, recently started to get into watches. What are some other good brands I could get into?

>>14903827
any of the Omega midsize divers, usually around 36mm. Some are pretty cool actually

>>14904186
Define mid range

>>14903827
Seamaster Mid-size is 36mm.
Christopher Ward Trident has a 38mm option.

>>14904186
Rolex.

>>14904186
What do you mean by mid-range and what do you intend to do with the watch?

>>14904785
As far as other entry to mid-level European brands go:
Sinn, Damasko, Stowa, Laco, Alpina, Mido, Rado, Longines, Formex, Christopher Ward etc. all make decent stuff in the $750-2000 range. If you're going above that look at Omega, Tudor, Frederick Constant, Vacheron Constantine, Cartier and the Big 3 (Rolex, AP, Patek). Breitling also makes good stuff if you're looking to have big Ben attached to your wrist, but some people like that sort of thing.

Japanese Seiko also isn't a bad way to go, especially the discontinued SARB series and the SARX series for around $500-1000 depending on what you're looking for.

There's also a ton of pretty solid microbrands in all sorts of different price points but be aware that microbrands generally don't resell well unless it's one of the few that actually somewhat hold their value like Helm/Borealis/Zelos. If you're going to buy a microbrand, be sure it's one you want because you might not have an easy time selling it afterwards like you would a major name brand.