/fa/ - Fashion

>>14850142
Friendly reminder that /wt/ aims to be a shitter-free zone that promotes fair, balanced and well thought out discussion of stunning timepieces. By posting in this thread you agree not to spam shitters or express retarded opinions (such as saying quartz watches are not shit).

The Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is such a perfect looking watch. I'm obsessed with it.
It's just too bad Blancpain fell for the big watch meme and they're all like 45mm or something crazy

What brand of watch was in a prominent role in the 90s Tarantino film, Pulp Fiction?

Snowfrake. Needed a service so I sold it

>>14850142
>aud a mars pig u ate
>omega (worse than beta, and far worse than alpha)
>rolex (literally just a name plucked from the air with absolutely no luxury)
>Pan errr? I
Casio is the ultimate brand name.

>>14850174
dunno, it was probably some hamilton or something.

>>14850161
>4 o'clock date
>case engraved with the brand name
>cheaply made components such as the bezel which costs $2000 to replace
>absurdly high servicing costs in general

Wow it's a fucking shitter.

>>14850181
why wouldn't u just get it serviced?
Snowflakes are nice and are getting rarer at a lower price

>>14850185
>4 o'clock date
Who cares?
>case engraved with the brand name
Have you seen a Rolex?
>cheaply made components such as the bezel which costs $2000 to replace
[citation needed]
>absurdly high servicing costs in general
So, like pretty much any watch with an in-house movement?

Fuck off.

What watch is the most impressive to normies for the least cost

>>14850174
Lancet

>>14850195
hard to say, I've had normies impressed by a timex

>>14850186
I bought it for however much, maybe like $5900aud and sold it 6 months down the track for $5700 in an easy face to face sale with an acquaintence. The service for them are well over $1000 Aussie I'm pretty sure. I'm not all that much of a wealthy person, so I can only have one high end piece in my collection, as much as I liked the watch, I just don't think it could have stayed on account of the spring drive, titanium and the insane gorgeous polish (I'm a bit of a brute)

>>14850215
>Anonymous 12/09/19(Mon)19:25:27 No.1485
Fair enough, not sure how I feel about titanium watches but goddamn if Grand Seiko doesn't make me consider it.

I have a sab017 and 62mas, and while I'm not super worried about damaging the sarb the 62mas has doubled in price since I bought it and now I'm worried about wearing it (When I get it back from it's service anyway)

>>14850227
They make some real fucking cracking watches, can pick up some cheeky deals on them used. I'm a big Seiko fan in general, I've got a LM special and a king quartz, plus a few of my dad's vintage quartz, use to own a sarb035, that scratches my itch for Seikos at the moment

>>14850185
>>case engraved with the brand name
this
this is fucking heinous
if they got rid of just this the watch would be redeemable>>14850194
>Have you seen a Rolex?
which rolex has the brand name in giant block capitals on the large surface that is the side of the case?
the invisible-unless-you-look-close faggy rehaut engraving doesn't compare to the massive BLANCPAIN that's on the FF
invicta does that lmao

>>14850250
Why does it bother you that much? Autismo.
It's not even that bad compared to some brands like pic related

>>14850252
>that hideous pitting on the polish
>hands an uneven color
Is that a fake? Surely even bvlgari wouldn't let that shit slide.

>>14850192
>like Longines with their reissues, they would most certainly fuck something up (like Longines with the fake patina on that WW reissue) there
Fauxpatina lume can be excused compared to some other shit they do. You can think of the fakeaged lume as just a different color of lume and nothing more, but imo the most grievous thing they do is with shoving a tiny movement into a fuckhuge case so that the 6 o'clock date window floats awkwardly, cutting into the sub seconds which is itself just way too high. Ruin the symmetry of an otherwise neat looking dial all because the movement was originally designed for a watch with a much smaller face.Those watches should have had complication-free movements in them, though that wouldn't have fixed the subseconds placement issue.

It's cheap, it's lazy. Fitting I suppose for a shell name that sits on the low end of the swatch totempole, but it just didn't have to be this way.

>>14850257
Date windows sell watches, so that shit gets stuck in where it doesn't belong unfortunately. Another pissoff is when the remake of a vintage watch is sized up by 3 or more mm. A modern version of this old calatrava with the same 37mm diameter would have been perfect. The original is basically unobtanium as well; longines had to borrow the one in the pic to recreate it.

>>14850252
why does it bother you so much that other people think the FF looks like shit?
what's mentally at stake for you that you would defend it so vehemently?
this is called autism
have it checked out
>that bulgari
but we're discussing the blancpain FF
who gives a shit about bulgari lol

>really like the look of the SKX
>don't like the shitter jingly jangly bracelet
>don't like the shitter +/- 20 minutes per day movement
>don't like the cheap/poorly finished handset

Is there a better option than picking one up and going with a strapcode bracelet, NH35 and different hands? At that point it's a $500+ watch which doesn't seem worth it.

>>14850265
It doesn't bother me at all whether you like something I do or not. If I want a FF I'll get one.
I'm just pointing out that there are much worse things that can be on a watch besides a luxury brand's name being etched on the side.

>>14850264
>Date windows sell watches
Why?

>>14850268
Due to pleb taste, essentially. Same reason why watches over the past decade or so have been so fucking huge. Thankfully that trend seems to be starting to die down a bit.

For me it is the GSW 5610-1, the best digital watch. Solar-powered, radio-controlled, basically a roided up version of the F91W-1.

>>14850266
The trick with cheap seiko shitters is to enjoy them for what they are and what they may offer (no matter how meagre that may or may not appear to be). Once you fall down the legit autistic path of upgrading junk that was never meant to the altered, to the extent that you in turn start spending extra hundreds of dollars on top of the original price of the watch, turning a cheap watch into something that is decidedly no longer so cheap, then that had better be your hobby you do for fun or you're a fucking dumbass that should've just bought another watch or left that shit well alone.
If it's not your hobby to tinker and upgrade for fun, don't do this. If you're just
>I want X
>but I also don't want X
then choose something other than X or just be happy with the way X is.

Most you should bother with unless you're into modding for fun is changing the bracelet.
No one says you have to go for strapcode.
You could just change to some cheapo nato or some shit.
Fuck upgrading the movement.
If you want more or less absolute accuracy then wear a quartz or fork out the bucks for a swiss "entry level" shitter chronometer like some mido.
Otherwise set the watch 5mins fast if it tends to run slow or set it a minute or so behind if it tends to run fast and reset once a week or as needed.

Scratch all that, just buy this >>14850308 and forget about all this shit.
You'll be happier, believe me.

>>14850266
Pick up the mini-turtle. They can be had less than a fully moded skx, have handwinding/hacking and really nice brushed version of the skx handset

>>14850313
>Fuck upgrading the movement
But the movement is fucking shit.

What will give me SKX vibes for $1000? Or maybe I can just wait and hope Tudor makes a BB58 GMT.

>>14850316
>mini-turtle
It looks like a shitter tho.

>>14850343
I think they look good. Significantly better external finishing than an skx at any rate. But you do you man

>>14850266
You might be able to find someone selling the one they modded and don't want anymore. But desu they aren't very good, had one and sold it for dirt cheap, the bracelet is shit, movement isn't the best, bezel was very average, hardlex is shit, would rather just acrylic than hardlex

What's the consensus on Junghans? I got one, only thing I have left from father, it looks nice and clean but I have no idea if it's good or not.

>>14850397
Pretty good

>>14850308
Why do you think we care about that piece of shit? It has no /fa/shion cred, it's technically /g/od awful and it's only point of note is it's dirt cheap. I wish people like you would stop posting in this general. Just fuck off.

>>14850397
It's well enough regarded for what it is: a minor player in the watch world.
Old german company that has surprisingly managed to survive 2 world wars, a divided germany AND the fucking nip-induced Quartz Crisis. I think it was basically the only large West German watch manufacturer for many years because the watchmaking centre of germany was stuck in the East.
Not much by the way of innovation that's still relevant but they do have one atomic solar quartz watch of some note.
Today known for their "muh minimalism" styled "max bill" edition watches.
You either like the styling or you don't.

Marketing, like for most german brands, might as well be non-existent. Unless you are german over 30, or are part of an online niche of enthusiast that is into this sort of thing, you would never have heard of it.

At least, unlike so many insipid "swiss" brands that litter the market place these days they are, in their own way, at least trying, more or less. They recently came out with a particularly accurate atomic quartz watch that surprisingly doesn't look like dogshit (which of course nobody gives a shit about because it's quartz).

>>14850266
>>14850313
>>14850316
>>14850395
Just found out that long island watch guy makes a de-shitterified SKX, I might have to buy one. Looks like the braclet has a shitty stamped clasp though.

Also what's the big deal about hardlex being shit? Is it just that it scratches and can't be polished out like acrylic? I don't really mind scratches on a beater.

>>14850493
>Also what's the big deal about hardlex being shit? Is it just that it scratches and can't be polished out like acrylic? I don't really mind scratches on a beater.

It's just a mineral crystal, it scratches about as much as your phone screen. Acrylic scratches a lot more easily, even from metallic objects like keys. While you can polish it it's a tediously repetitive task and those polywatch tubes aren't that big.

The main difference is being shatter proof, while sapphire is harder to scratch its less shatter proof than mineral let alone acrylic.

>1 year worth of salary
Ah fuck it

>>14850142
Slavshitters I'd like your advice:
I want to buy a boctok with high legibility out of novelty and can't make up my mind as to design.

Which one should I get? (inb4 everyone chooses the bonus round)
1) seems to at least have matching lume with hands and indices. The stark white of the others doesn't work with the hand lume. 5) isn't a real preference since I don't often prefer white dials but at least with the radio room it's somewhat interesting.

Since it's all shit I might try fucking with it and reluming myself anyway if I can be fucked.

Thinking of changing strap of this, any advise? I'm 19.

>>14850528
1. stunner
2. stunner
3. stunner
4. shitter
5. shitter
6. ?

Why not try a full lume dial?

Also I presume you know boctok bracelets are SHIT and you'll need to budget for a strap.

>>14850538
Yeah I guess I'm liking 1 and 2 a lot more than the rest.
Don't you like the radio rooms?
I didn't even know there were full lume dials, at least on the two places I checked I didn't notice any. So much stuff out of stock.
That might fix the lume issue for me, even though I'd prefer white on black
>strap
Yeah I've heard that.
Haven't decided yet what I'd replace it with.
Is there a general staple replacement everyone turns to? Anything decent is likely to cost more than the whole package lol.

>>14850543
You're looking on Meranom? That's pretty much the go to place to buy one from, not sure if I'd buy one from anywhere else but other anons would know. Also note that from Meranom you can pay $5 and get them to fit any parts you like (e.g. different hands, bezel, date wheel etc.).

As for straps, I don't know if there are any good metal ones out there, most people usually just put them on a NATO or leather strap.

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>>14850186
They make a ton of them every year. They have been just over 5k usd for a long time.

>>14850553
Unfortunately Meranom is out of all these basic, dateless black dialed amfibias. I'm looking at Zenitar on ebay who seems to be the other guy everyone seems to talk about. Paying a few bucks to get shit swapped around doesn't seem so bad. Oh well.

>>14850570
>Nulbarich song
Good taste

>>14850570
Welp thanks citizen shill.
That's Christmas present sorted. Phew thought it was going to be another Christmas Eve headscratcher dilemma where I'm wandering around bewildered all day trying to find some crap to buy.

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>>14850449
Thanks for the rundown, interesting to hear that I've come into a decent watch. I personally enjoy the minimalist styling as most people I see around here carry chunky silver brick watches that look too much like try-hard status symbols to be worn in every day life. It may be my limited understanding, but most watches ITT look hideous.

>>14850570
Which one of those would look best on a black girl?

>>14850628
>black

>>14850626
It's because you're a retard, they're sport watches.

>>14850632
Nah, these
>>14850252
>>14850161
>>14850185
>>14850308
>>14850537
all look autistic as fuck and the chunky metal look and over-complicated faces reek of compensation and posturing, of pudgy programmers and third world boomers trying to look manly and/or rich, the watch equivalent of wearing Camp David, Ralph Lauren or Diesel

>>14850628
Yellow gold looks best on blackies.
A rosey hue will I suppose do but yellow is best on them.

say hello to my little friend

>>14850655

>>14850648
Would 1 or 4 look good? Her skin is a bit lighter than the leather on 4, maybe that would clash too much.

>>14850682
Get 1. Whenever there's a bracelet option for something get that one. You can always swap it out for a strap of your choosing later. Trying to get hold of an OEM bracelet for something like that is going to be much more difficult and expensive than just picking up a random strap, and finding a third party bracelet that fits the curved end links if you stupidly got the strap version isn't worth the hassle of even trying.
1.

>>14850528
Pick the one with the white face. There's already more than enough black faced divers on the market so make some difference.

>>14850308
For me it’s the same, only perfected

>>14850493
Imagine buying homage of SKX. Imagine buying any homage...

>>14850537

Some rubber strap. Have a look at cheapestnatostraps, maybe a tropic strap of some kind.

>>14850803
Whats the difference besides color details?

>>14850714
Thanks for the advice. I'm not really doing it though, I'm just pretending I'm buying her a Christmas gift because she ghosted me a year ago and I can't let go. :(

>>14850161
>>14850526
>that date window
Both near perfect watches otherwise.

>>14850835
Don't worry. You're not the most pathetic if that's a worry:
A few years ago there was a watch fair at a local mall where they were selling a whole bunch of brands on sale before christmas.
I saw some shitter Orients and recalled
>oh yeah, she always wanted one of those novelty throwaway autos
so i bought one.
It wasn't until after I paid that I recalled that I hadn't had this gf for 2 years but was still in the habit mentally come christmas time because my life had basically just been at a standstill in all respects. Autopilot.
Now I've got a shitter ladies orient, NIB, sitting in my closet for a gf that no longer exists as such. I can't remember whether or not I even had it wrapped. Probably lol
Dark days on autopilot they were. I'll probably gift it to a sibling or something if they can make it for christmas.

>>14850853
I still save links to things she would find funny or interesting, can't bring myself to delete the shows or games we said we'll watch or play together... everything is shit, this is no way to live.

Two fahkin days til this shittah comes in the mail.

>>14850832
metal case, better resin

>>14850930
>that date window placement

My 1997 Chopard Mille Miglia

>>14851062
Is it bad date window general?

>>14851055
6 and 3 are acceptable date window positions.

>>14851073
maybe in 2019. Watch is 22 years old now.

>>14851062
Only good watch posted in this thread.

>>14850161
Nice amphibia homage lmao

>>14850266
>>14850493
Just get an Orient mako usa II
Sold end links, sapphire, hacking seconds etc etc, apparently they are on sale for 200 right now on orients website. Then you don't have to pay $300 for a fucking homege of a $200 watch.

>>14850142
the aq230 is the only stunner you'll ever need.

>>14851147
So instead you pay $200 for a turd.

>>14851149
fucking lol. u retard.

>>14851202
Orient makes some pretty good turds ngl

>>14851202
It's just a shitter divers watch. As far as features for the money you aren't going to do much better. All he would have to do is change the bezel if he really wanted a pepsi.

Why are there no relevant 2020 releases/catalogues yet?

>>14850628
Post pics

>>14851233
Because Rolex is the only brand that matters but you can't buy it so what's the point.

>>14851287
Rolex is relatively cheap desu. I can afford a Rolex it's just that I don't feel the need to drop 8k on a watch when I could buy 32 thousand gumballs instead.

>>14851294
Patek and AP are shitters desu.

is the polerouter ns the most physically attractive wristwatch that a human has ever designed?

>>14851309
No

>>14851311
Fuck off rollie mollie

Is this fake? Never seen this bezel before.

>>14851309
No. It's not even the best looking Polerouter.

picture of the inside. Should there not be a serial number inside?

>>14851344
There needs to be more dials with a combo of vertical brushing and a radial brushed ring.

where can i buy quality steel oyster style bracelets from?

>>14851343
>>14851352
Seems alright with the correct style of movement for a transitional era watch, though that bezel is usually fitted on Amphibia cases it doesn't really matter.

>>14851366
Check strapcode

>>14851343
where do you even find watches like this? would love to have a special piece like this

Alright boys, I am getting a low end luxury watch, which is better in your opinions?

>>14851513
bruh those are fucking ugly, nasty things

just get some old king seiko or omega

>>14851531
I prefer getting non pre-owned. Since my budget is around 1500eu, stuff like omega is out of the question. Do you recommend any specific model?

>>14851513
>low end luxury watch
that's an oxymoron
it's either luxury, or it's just low-end.
it can't be both.
>>14851544
>budget is around 1500eu
i'm gonna say what's often said ITT
that price range is the null zone when it comes to watches worth spending money on unless you're going for something from one of the german brands that are perhaps the only exception to this reality
buy cheap (<300) or buy expensive (>4000)
that null zone is filled with absolutely worthless shit that you will most probably regret buying in due time
in your case either pick up something cheap or keep saving for something decent
or, you know, waste money however you want lmao it's your cash but everything in that zone is bland trash made in china but with "swiss made" or whatever stamped on the dial because of bullshit loose laws
brands are less watch brands and more watch case and dial designers since manufacturing is all outsourced to the same factory in Shenzhen.

>>14850161
Bathyscaphe is the superior reference

>>14851565
>but everything in that zone is bland trash

I dissagree since brands like longines and ball have consistently made good watches in that price range for over a century. The notion that a 4k+ watch from a big name brand would have more quality than a 1k-2k watch from a brand like one off the two mentioned above, or even something like seiko, is very weird to believe.

when it comes to watches do not think it is any different from cloth brands and there marketing/commercialization

>he doesnt have tritium lume tubes

Everyone has been shitting on tudor so i brought out the true heavy hitter.

>>14851573
Ball feels like a resurrected brand that doesnt have much to do with its origins. Though I don't recall what their story is, this whole emphasis on American railroads but the whole "Swiss made" thing puts me off. Current ball has nothing to do with the USA nor its railroads. It's certainly not made there nor was ball anywhere near the level of Hamilton, Elgin, Gruen, Waltham and the like back when it was actually the real Ball watch company and not hanging on a fake "since 18__" they print on their promo material today. Even less now since the company was bought by a Chinese consortium.
It's gimmick is tritium tubes. They look better than luminox/traser if triutim illumination is what you want but they have issues with long term ownership if that is a concern for the buyer. This is in regards to replacement parts especially tubes for dials which are noticeably dimmer after a decade. They might not have spares because they don't hoarde spares and their lineup changes often enough that they can't keep stock for everything.
If you simply want a watch to wear for about 12 years and don't mind whether or not there's replacement tritium (or a company to do the switch) waiting for you as promised by Ball (they've break this promise before) then go ahead. It would be best then to choose a model that doesn't rely so much on tritium and can still stand on its own when the tubes finally die, again only if longterm ownership is an actual concern for you and a factor in your initial purchase. If it's just a fun purchase for the present the who gives a shit.

Longines today is unfortunately just a name printed on dials of watches owned by swatch and whatever innovation they might actually still bring to bear is entirely the work of ETA engineers today. If you like their case and dial designs then fine. The Longines today is not the same company that made such wonderful timepieces that continually eclipsed others last century.

>>14851649
Im not disputing or disagreeing that they are innovative companies that are at the top of the industry or even at the top for watches in that tier.

I only wish for people to get the notion out of their heads that it is wisest to either buy a sub 300 watch that you can scratch up or you have to get the likes of rolex, vacheron constantin or omega for it to be considered not a bad investment.

I picked longines because I feel for a price range of 1-2k you can definitely get your money's worth with that brand. The watch will be a good watch, but not great.

I think the mindset that you can't get a good watch for "the zone" >>14851565 mentioned is a very disputable.

>>14851664
are NOT innovative...

is what I meant to say

>>14851573
if you're comfortable paying 2 to 3000+ euros for watches whose cases, bracelets, dials, hands, crowns and most of not all the movements are made for a pittance in china but sold to you at a heinous markup as if it were a labor of switzerland then that's your preference.
with ball at the very least the tritium hands and dials must be made in switzerland, everything else will most likely be made in china but legally be allowed to bear swiss on the dial to deceive customers
the laws are fucked
some will say oh but the chinese can make good stuff too!
okay, then why are that makers so afraid of printing made in china on the dial?
because swiss made is a selling point
and you only really start to get actual swiss labour at around 4 to 5k dollars unless you buy vintage.

>>14851667
>unless you're going for something from one of the german brands

What brands do you think qualify?

>>14851565
>unless you're going for something from one of the german brands

Which brands do you think qualify?

>>14851502
The is a million old vostok watches on eBay. Just watch out because some don't work and lots are frakenwatches with changed faces hands etc.

Any good ideas for a minimalist watch worth around 500-2000?

>>14851565
>I have no personality whatsoever, I just repeat whatever Archie tells me. The only way for me to determine the quality of a watch is by the price tag.

>>14851700
Reddit Max Bill

>>14851679
Damasko and Nomos for either novelty tech, true innovation, or both. There was actual effort expended here and not just a cynical hack and slash shove a stock standard cheap movement off the shelf into a Chinese made case. Damasko makes its own special hardend steel cases themselves in Germany amongst some other innovations. At the higher range they've bothered with creating an actual in house movement. Both D and Nomos are manufactories. Nomos, though I detest the brand, has expended considerable effort in the design and creation of their unique movements. Even in the past when they did not have a manufactory movement they did not import from ETA but actually made a movement from scratch under license I suppose rather that order in.
Blued hands and decorated movments with blued screws also are testament to actual effort being expended for the money. I don't get this feeling with any of the the other Swiss brands in similar price ranges. Straps made of horween shell is a nice bonus compared to the typical "leather" crap seemingly added as an afterthought by other makers in the skae range. It's just a strap though, so in the end it doesn't mean much I guess.
I don't know what state Sinn is like these days but it used to fall into the "worth it due to novelty/innovation/gimmick" category that Damasko currently fall into. Though I have no idea who makes Sinn's cases these days as they certainly didn't make their own in the past. No interesting movments. I don't know whether or not they regulate to any advanced degree their imported movements like Damasko does, though it might be made up for by the fact that the stock grade Sinn buys from ETA is a higher grade.
There's more but I have to go.

>>14851565

There are plenty great watches between 2
and 4 grand, especially used. What did you buy under 300 or over 4000?

Recommend me a watch that says "l am a well-balanced upstanding citizen that pays my taxes and l am completely disgusted with the world"
I work as the UPS man if it matters.

>>14851734
>he fell for the """"""ice hardened steel"""" meme
lol

any audio nerds up in here

One of my vintage omegas
Also looking at getting a vintage rolex as a present for finishing law school - any recommendations? Currently considering a 1600 datejust or 5500 air king, but need something that's subtle enough to wear as a grad lawyer in the office

>>14851946
The 1500 is better desu

Contributing

>>14852055
Too big, little guy

>>14852057
Reposting for proper orientation

Eh I think it feels pretty good.

>>14850641
tasteless shit eater

https://www.amazon.com/Ethan-Eliot-Charleston-Stainless-EE40-RB32BK/dp/B07V6SHG79/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=watch&qid=1575944803&s=apparel&sr=1-2


i want, talk me out of it

>>14852099
beautiful haute horology piece. Instant buy

>>14852114
i dont frequent /watch/ general, i cant tell if im being memed

>>14851946
If I were you, I'd spend the same money on an awesome pocket watch. You'll get more watch for your money, and if you wear 3 piece suits it'll be useful.

Vintage Rolexes are a premium in the resale market, so it's going to cost you a lot. There's no point when you could theoretically start saving when you get out of school and just get a new one. The technology will be better, it'll be 'your' Rolex, and you'll feel like you've earned it differently than if you bought someone else's watch.

Just a few thoughts.

>>14852187
1500/1600 are super cheap for their quality and no one wants to be pulling out a pocketwatch as a junior associate at their first law job. Are you drunk again seagullanon I usually cut you some slack but come on.

>>14850142

>2020
>taxpaying White men
>of working/marrying age
>still wearing bracelets

You guys are fucking pathetic. I wish death on you your friends your lovers and anyone that chooses to associate with you and chooses to associate with your associates and so on and so forth

>>14852195
Not drunk...yet. I'd agree with you that they're currently rather cheap (around 2900 for a good example) but they're aesthetically very...well....mediocre. Do you honestly want to look at that thing for the time?

The vintage Omega you have is far more interesting visually, and it'll keep as good time as a 70's 1500. Why not just use the Omega and save for a watch that is not a compromise?

Regarding pulling out a pocketwatch. There are lots of possibilities with this:

1) It's no different than pulling out a phone (or worse, people these days put their fucking phones on the dinner table) to check the time. If it's in a convenient pocket, you can look at it below the desk and no one cares.

2) Are you expecting people to judge you on what watch you're wearing? If so, going vintage Rolex is awful unless you can answer, 'yeah, it was my Dad's when he started his business...now I'm carrying on the tradition'.

3) No matter what, you shouldn't be caring if people judge you on a watch, which leads to the issue of carrying a pocket watch. Unless you think it'll make a difference for the worse, then wear a timex at work and wear the cool shit when you're out. Then if you want an average Rolex Date there is nothing stopping you.

I don't know Anon...I've stopped caring about that sort of thing, and the more people I encounter the fewer of them care about it either. I recently got my will updated, and the guy doing it was wearing a quartz seamaster. Why the hell would anyone buy a quartz seamaster? I don't know. I never asked. He likes his watch, so if it makes him happy, that's fine. But as a knowledgeable customer, I see it as an atrocious waste of money and 'judge' him accordingly.

Then of course I throw out the judgement because it makes no difference regarding the work he does. His watch doesn't matter, and that's the point. Your watch shouldn't matter, especially if you can do better work than your peers.

Well shit...that killed the discussion pretty fucking quickly...

>>14851825
Casio a500wa

>>14850803
>>14850308
Hey, I've been looking into buying one of these. What's the width of the original straps on them? Ads for replacement straps only say "16mm" but that is the lug width. I'd like to put on a metal bracelet that I found, https://www.etsy.com/listing/700190970/jaysandkays-solid-steel-black-pvd , there are options from 20-24mm so I'm interested in how wide the original resin ones are.

>>14852227
>2) Are you expecting people to judge you on what watch you're wearing? If so, going vintage Rolex is awful unless you can answer, 'yeah, it was my Dad's when he started his business...now I'm carrying on the tradition'.
Isn't that the whole point of vintage watches? You tell people it was your dad's/grandpa's so that it doesn't look like you came from a shit family.

vostoks are ugl-

>>14852633
-y

>>14852633
that stap's a straight dog tho ngl

>>14852633
How is the reliability of those, compared to the skx?

>>14852195
>putting a watch anywhere near ceramic

Just scratch my shit up senpai.

>>14852642
8 years with this guy, I regulated it to +/- 0 when I first got it, using audacity. Kept that accuracy for 3 years until I decided it was a good idea to wear it while riding a speedbike on a bumpy road. Fell out of aligment to +15ish, and stayed like that for around 4 years gaining exactly 15 seconds on wrist and losing 2 dial up.
Earlier this year I used audacity, a pickup mic, tgtimer, and many autistic calculations to get it +1 on wrist and -1 dial up.
On weeks when I wear it keeps literally perfect time until I let it wind down.
Obviously never been serviced and It's not even a well QC'd watch. I didn't get it from meranom because they weren't popular back then, got it from that nigger zenitar. The acrylic has horizonal machining hairlines on the inside of the crystal but at this point it's characteristic of the watch. The date wheel is slightly bent, if the watch is at low PR it doesn't have enough force to overcome the friction with the dial and the date doesn't fully change.

I might swap the movement sometime but I have almost a dozen commie shitters by now, so I'm probably gonna leave it as is with it's little quirks.
If I could only have one brand/make it would absolutely be BOCTOK and not basedko

>>14852689
the rest of my 'stocks are from meranom by the way and I haven't had a single issue other than a couple being like +30 which I easily took care of.

Glad that dude dimitry takes the time to fucking look at the watch before he sends them out. If his OC donutsteels weren't so ugly I'd pick one up

Absolutely obsessed with this matted, rough dial.
Why the fuck don't more watches have this? fuck that glossy shit

>>14851149
>>14851594

>>14852227
>quartz seamaster
Maybe he has a bunch of watches in rotation and doesnt care for winding and adjusting and wanted a pick-it-up-and-go watch. Maybe he likes the lightness of quartz, but still wants the brand name. Maybe he wanted a cheap alternative with a brand name. I tried automatic watches, but I rolled back to quartz for the above mentioned reasons. Convenience.

NOW, if only more companies or microbrands that use quartz movements made a bit more effort and produced watches that dont look like cheap shit and with a bit of thought, the watch world would be a more interesting place. Noonce cares about the 89745798th variation of a seiko-powered diver.

>>14852381
In 5600 styles cases, the actual points of attachment where and the springbars are 16mm, while the straps are as wide as the plastic. Youd need a strap with 16mm lugs or a bracelet adapter of some sort.

>>14852689
>got it from that nigger zenitar.
Is zenitar generally not regarded as realiable?
Meranom is out of stock of everything I want

Also, what about movement holders? Is a metal holder a decent upgrade? I read here and there that actually plastic technically offers better shock resistance but I don't know anything about that.

https://youtu.be/1Ya0pRR5zyE?t=282

Which watch is this?

>>14852766
that was the one and only time I bought from him
its like a 5 dollar part, up to you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_1M6bZcz40

What's Seiko's obsession with making all of their watches the size of a dinner plate?

>>14852741
I guess a more clear way of asking is "how wide are the resin straps at their maximum width?"

>>14852841
Dive watches are meant to be big to allow for easier use while diving and wearing gloves.

>>14852843
The vast majority of divers people actually buy are 42mm at the absolute maximum, even brands that make fuckhuge watches like Shiteling make 42mm options.

Japs are all 5ft 2in with skinny wrists and small dicks anyway so why do they need a big watch?

>>14852741
>>14852842
In this area

>>14852841
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_1M6bZcz40
>What's Seiko's obsession with making all of their watches the size of a dinner plate?
It's not just Seiko. The entire industry went batshit retarded because Russians and Chinese preferred massive watches to compensate. Now that the tide has turned and russia is in the shit and the chinese market has slackened brands are all standing around holding their dicks as the ship slowly corrects course to some less retarded sizes more acceptable to real people who aren't jumped up peasants who need 50mm shitter litter on their wrist to prove to all their other peasant countrymen that they are top dog because they wear a bigger, more gaudy wrist-totem than they do.

I laughed and laughed when the tide turned and zenith and ulose fagdin were truly caught with their dicks up their own arses after the russian market collapsed and they'd alienated all their non-russian/chinese customers with fuckoff ugly watches in ridiculous proportions. That gravy train was not sustainable.
Larger, more conservative companies like Seiko are slower to correct course. At least they have a range of sizes and nothing truly grievous like tw steel or uboat shit.

>>14852741
I guess a more clear way of asking is "how wide are the resin straps at their maximum width?"
The metal bracelet that I wanna order is gonna be attached to an adapter with 16mm springbars.

>>14852850
I hope things lurch towards smaller watches again but I'm not sure it'll happen anytime soon. I don't know a great deal about manufacturing but I'm guessing it takes time and effort to set up the tooling to dump out 50mm shitters by the bucketload.

I'd love to buy a 40mm Seiko shitter diver with pepsi colours that isn't fuckhuge and made as badly as a SKX, problem is that it doesn't exist.

>>14852857
More reasonable diameters never really left, just that all the new releases seemed to get larger and larger with no upper limit.
The release and extreme popularity of something like the black bay 58 tells companies that there are buyers who don't want some 45mm chunk of crap on their wrist. Look, 45mm diver or sporty watch is whatever to me desu.
My main beef was the enlargement of dress watches beyond any possible aesthetic proportion. That cannot be forgiven. Though I guess since dress watches are out of fashion I'm out of luck for things to revert closer to what they were. A 42mm, all dial/no bezel, dress watch will never not look retarded on everyone that doesn't have 9"+ wrists and even then I'm not so sure.

I was surprised to see junk brands like Rado and Oris having such success with the whole "vintage diver" dad that's currently making the rounds. Radio's captain cook and golden horse and oris's 65 diver seem to have been doing well.

I will never see rolex's larger DJ and DD and well proportioned, however. That's a mistake. If they wanted to go bigger than 36mm okay fine but the 41mm engorged watch just looks off.
Rolex unfortunately seems to be looking more and more as a weird caricature of itself.
I think omega has kept proportions more or less consistent for the past 20 years to their credit.

>>14852865
>I was surprised to see junk brands like Rado and Oris
Correction, I'm being too harsh on oris I think. I've always gotten the sentiment about them as if they were the little engine that could: a swiss brand that has fallen very far compared to what it once was but still maintaining its independence and, despite a stint in the past, keeping clear of conglomerate bullshit.
Rado I forget even exists until I walk past the booth by chance at the mall.
Their red dialed golden horse was the first watch of theirs that actually stopped me to take a look.
37mm, vintage style case with an unusual red gradient dial.
Would I buy it? No. But it managed to catch my interest for more than a few seconds unlike years of lame ass diastars that they peddled before.
I don't like the movement they put in these either.

>tfw want a Tudor Submariner from the 90s
>tfw don't want the "could afford a Rolly?" stigma
What do?

>>14852878
Speaking of red dialed watches made in China, does the anon that had the Maison Celadon's still post here?
Probably not.
This here is probably the only Chinese made watch I would actually buy because at least it's honest about it's origins ("made in China with pride") unlike 90% of "swiss" made offerings which are a lie.
Pity red just isn't particularly versatile. Or perhaps maybe not.

>>14852893
Why not just pay the extra for a 5 digit Sub?

>>14852893
Get a Tudor Sub from the 90s

>>14852893
>tfw don't want the "could afford a Rolly?" stigma
from whom do you think you'll get this "stigma"?
you imaginary internet "friends"? lmao
does anybody in your real day to day life even wear a watch? if the answer is no, like it would be for most people then buy whatever you want you moron

i don't know shit about watches, but i've been wanting one for some time, but i guess i'm just tasteless, i really dig these kind of vintage-esque watches, but every time i see one, people are shitting on them, i'm thinking in getting this one, is this ok or should i just go with safe stuff like seiko and casios?

>>14852918
>i don't know shit about watches
Same here, my last couple of watches have been Suunto sports which are great for their purpose but i really need a half decent dress watch. Im an old guy but id nail that watch in a heartbeat if only for the simple reason of always doing the opposite of what this Nepalese spear fishing forum says. How much is that thing by the way?

>>14852918
>i really dig these kind of vintage-esque watches
You mean dress watches?
>but every time i see one, people are shitting on them
The watches in vogue at the moment are the ones that imply sport and action, not that the wearer actually has to be active, it's just the connotation especially popular among the mid-life crisiser market.
>i'm thinking in getting this one, is this ok or should i just go with safe stuff like seiko and casios?
Raymond weil is a bit of a nothing brand. The churn out uninspired designs with stock standard off the shelf components such that your money would go further elsewhere. That's why seiko/casio/ and other cheaper offerings are frequently recommended. They're good for what they offer at the price they sell for,
RW and others of its ilk are mall watches true and true, bought by people that don't know better, have no other option and are clueless as to looking for what else might be available.
That being said if you like the look of that specific watch then buy it if you want.

>>14852633
Which model is this

>>14852947
>The watches in vogue at the moment are the ones that imply sport and action, not that the wearer actually has to be active, it's just the connotation especially popular among the mid-life crisiser market.
Not him but thats pretty good. Any recommendations on a mid level dress watch of a similar style to >>14852918 ?

>>14852918
No, you stop listening to this forum and do what you think is fun. The postings here should be taken with irony. I like the watch you posted, dial looks good, proportions are awesome, due to it's smaller size.
I wear a small golden quartz watch and it's so comfy. Yours is probably overpriced for what it is but you can't get a certain style or a watch cheaper without sacrificing style.
We only shit on people that pretend to be better with some stupid shit they bought, but when you post in a nice way, nobody will hate you for your watch.
What model is this?

>>14851513
I think Meister singers are actually pretty cool but more as an auxiliary watch if you want something fun

>>14852844
> Japs are all 5ft 2in with skinny wrists
You honestly believe most Seiko are bought by the Japs? Think again.

>>14852960
Nothing immediately comes to mind desu. I've not kept an eye out for this sort of style.
What you can search:
dress watch with roman numerals and moon style hands.
and see what comes up.
styling
The question is: how big do you want your watch?
If you want a more traditional dress watch that's more or less indiscrete and can slide easily under a shirt cuff then things become a little more difficult due to the sizing conventions of today.
Like I said the this general type of watch isn't so popular anymore because everyone's abandoned it for more casual stuff.

Here's an orient star as an example.
If you can do without specifically the moon hands then your options will most likely be broadened.

"dress watch, roman numerals"
search it and see what you like that comes up.

What are your opnions on vintage omegas /wt/?

What would you spend on one?

>>14852997
>that's more or less indiscrete
that's more or less *DISCREET
fuck

>>14853000
I'm worried about buying one because of the profusion of frankenwatches out there with (ruined) repainted dials, mismatched crowns and other parts.
I'd have to do a lot of research on them before I ventured into these vintage waters. Even buying from an established dealer at a very high premium isn't safe. I saw a 50's rolex oyster with a repainted dial (painted black, so they could sell it at a premium) at what looked to be a generally well regarded used watch seller's online store.
If you don't care about authenticity and don't mind overpaying for potentially franken pieces then the entry is easy, just buy what you like that you can afford.

>>14853000
They're for people too poor to buy a proper Omega.

>>14853009
link a proper omega

>>14853006
I think if you can snag one for sub 500 it is a good deal. If you really want to be sure you can pay a seller money to first bring it to a watchmaker to check authenticity.

>>14853013
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-speedmaster-moonwatch-professional-chronograph-42-mm-31130423001005

>>14853025
what if I don't want such a overcrowded dial and intead just want the clean look of the classics?

>>14853027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGtjsceN9OM

>>14853025
so a proper omega is a chinese made shitter rather than a true swiss made watch from an era when omega was actually an admirable brand?

>>14853033
the only danger is that vintage is also not a guarantee for authenticity

>>14853033
>hurr chinese parts
The vast majority of Swiss watches are going to have Chinese parts in them these days.

>>14853027
fucking kys poorfag

>>14853051
you should literally hang yourself for contributing nothing. Im guessing your life is also hollow and nothing since it is even too much for you to contribute on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving forum

>>14853057
seethe more street shitter

>>14853060
fucking kys nigger

>>14853043
not rolex and everything above :^)

>>14851946
Great reading and watch choice, cheers.

>>14852943
Its something about 120 usd, but its second hand, from what i've seen they cost on average 400 to 600 usd, not that i think they worth it, but i live in a country with shitty currency and absurd taxes, so a new one here would be something like at least 1000 usd, which is equivalent to 4 minimum wages here.

>>14852947
>You mean dress watches?
I guess, these earth toned watches like pic rel, not necessarily with leather straps, but i would use it as a everyday watch though
>RW and others of its ilk are mall watches
Thats what i'm fearing, i don't expect insane quality, but i don't want to fall for the faux luxury trap, not trying to be ostentatious too, just want some accessory to compliment my clothes.

>>14852975
thanks, i will take everything in consideration, i don't really know the model since the guy selling didn't say it, searching for "Raymond Weil Geneve" get some simillar results, if i buy this one i will bring to a friend who knows a little bit about watches to see if everything is alright since i can return it for free.

>TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK

What are anons take on reluming a vintage Omega Seamaster?
Could removing the old luminescent paint do more harm to the dial?

>>14853076
Have a look through some citizen eco-drives instead of a regular quartz movement, or perhaps a seiko solar.
Fuck getting a battery changed every 3 years. If you keep it regularly charged they should last at least 15 to 20 years before the battery or capacitor needs replacing.
No need to worry about accuracy or keeping it wound. Just put on and go.

>>14853215
How old are we talking here?
>Could removing the old luminescent paint do more harm to the dial?
Could do more harm to the person doing the removing because if it's pre 60's it'll be radium lume. Watchmaker must be familiar with and have the necessary tools and safety equipment to replace radium paint. I don't know how bad it is to inhale tritium dust for that matter.

>>14853226
>radium lume.
Unfortunately this.
>>14853226
>if it's pre 60's it'll be radium lume.
Some watches had a radium lume in the 60s. Mine is an Omega from 62, and I don't wear it because of that reason.
There's not a lot of paint and was planning to have it serviced at some point.

>>14850407
>being this fucking ignorant

>>14853244
>being a fucking idiot shitposting shitters

>>14850570

CAMPANOLA Cosmosign - CITIZEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2E1V_m9no

Talk me out of buying this fucking shitter?

>>14853259
The fact that you're asking us here about said shitter probably means you're not exactly rolling around in surplus expendable income otherwise you probably would've already bought it. If this is in fact the case i would suggest you save your money for more essentials to living, hold out until you can afford something that's not "that fucking shitter" or just don't buy a watch at all and continue living your life in a timeless lassitude.
If you really wanted it you would've bought it regardless.
The fact that there's doubt suggests that you don't really want it but perhaps want "something else" and that this is a tideover placeholder type waste of money. If this is the case don't spend the cash. Don't be the guy with a drawer full of shitters he never wears, having sunk so much money in stuff they didn't really want.

Don't wear pilot watches if you know nothing about aviation. Okay, sweaty?

>>14853254

>>14852893

Get the chewda. Am very much thinking about selling my sub and getting a chewda sub instead. In numbers I suppose they're rarer than Rolexes and are getring harder to find at a decent price too

>>14853329
>sweaty
Don't wear a speedmaster if you're not an astronaut, okay sweaty?
Don't wear a pulsometer if you're not a doctor, okay sweaty?
Don't wear a moonphase if you're not an astronomer, okay seaty?
Don't wear a diver if you're not a scuba diver, okay sweaty?

>>14853285
But it looks cool tho.

>>14853076
>Raymond Weil Geneve

I looked into it and found some more results under "Raymond Weil 5531".
There are two similar models under this number, one has different hands.

Found this one on ebay for 375$.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Raymond-Weil-Geneve-Unisex-White-Dial-Black-Leather-Band-Watch-5531/323285020476?epid=1458613454

The price is not too bad, could be cheaper but there is also no good substitute for this watch.
The only similar one is a seiko SYJ178 but it's too small.
>lug width 12.5mm
Ladies watch. So go for the bigger RW, that thing is bigger and for men.

>>14853216
That doesn't look remotely like the watch he wanted and also is way too big for that classy look. The tech is great, i wish they would make this thing 34-36 mm and it would actually look good as a dress watch.

any suggestion for a bauhaus style watch around the 100€ mark? quartz is fine, the thinner the better

pic related

>>14853422
The pic was just for example purposes. I told him to have a look through eco-drives to see if there was anything, not buy the one I found in a 10s image search. There's a lot of them out there. Agreed that that one would have been better if it were a few mm smaller in diameter as I'm sure it's probaly 42mm or something ridiculous. Then again, the wrist wearing it might be small.
Imo when choosing quartz, it's better to go some kind of solar quartz (citizen, seiko and casio all have it) rather than pick an ordinary, non-thermocompensated quartz watch unless you really can't find the style you like at all.
Just my opinion.

Post a more stunning gold stunner I dare ya.

>>14853446
Oh, sorry, my bad. I didn't read your post properly. I agree, he should check out some eco drives and the other stuff you mentioned. There are some neat looking, less popular models, with great proportions.

>>14853259
That red second hand would end up annoying me tremendously. Otherwise it's fine I guess.

>>14853448
Here ya go. I have this one but in silver. Should have gone for the gold one, looks super comfy.
I have a weak spot for the casio helvetica numerals. Don't know what kind of autism this is but i love them and already have 3 casios with this font. The small proportions are awesome. I love these shitters, they are so cheap and great. Casio needs to bring back some of the old styles from the 70-80 back, would sell well.

Based and redpilled or cringe and bluepilled?

Strapcode jubilee or crafter blue rubber for my skx shitter lads

>>14853484
Gold dial ruins it for me but still, it is a nice timepiece from Casio. The entire aq230 lineup is pure gold.

>>14853506
Strapcode are great bracelets, I have their super oyster on my SKX.

>>14853543
Nice that bezel is hot as fuck. You even have me reconsidering the jubilee

>>14852907
Rarely, but sure. It's lawyeranon who had the red dial imperial though.

>>14852421
It depends on if you buy them for external reasons or internal.

I love vintage watches due to the quality of manufacture and innovation at that time; you're getting a lot of watch for your money. There are chronometers worth owning from the 60s; even back then it was possible to have excellent performance that rivals watches of today (Seiko in particular just before the Quartz Revolution). Railroad pocket watches were expected to be within +/- 30 seconds per WEEK or they were sent to a watchmaker to be adjusted/regulated. If the rate is consistent, you're looking at a pocket watch that runs +/- 3 seconds a day, which is well within modern COSC cert and very close to Rolex's +2/-2 that is their publicly stated 'Superlative Chronometer' rating. And that's for pocket watches from the turn of the Century. So in terms of technology, it's already worth looking at.

If the watch has an interesting history (i.e.'this was actually used by a soldier in WWII'), then there is something to 'talk about' with anyone who asks. But that goes into the external reasons...which is why most people wear expensive watches today anyway.

If an expensive watch is necessary to show that one is not poverty stricken, well...then all I can say is that I'm a little sorry that the individual has to deal with that. It's not easy, but if those are the rules towards advancing in a career...play by them.

>>14852728
No, he replaced a mechanical years ago. As far as I know, he just wanted the design without the mechanics, so convenience as you say. The reason it seems odd to me is that Quartz Seamasters are not cheap; you're paying a lot for the design and name, and the movement is not particularly well regarded (though it's not terrible either). To me it makes no sense; it's a quartz watch in a very expensive case.

Unless he were going tuning fork, then I do place it in the same category as Seiko Quartz or any other high end quartz.

>>14853603
>Railroad pocket watches were expected to be within +/- 30 seconds per WEEK or they were sent to a watchmaker to be adjusted/regulated. If the rate is consistent, you're looking at a pocket watch that runs +/- 3 seconds a day, which is well within modern COSC cert and very close to Rolex's +2/-2 that is their publicly stated 'Superlative Chronometer' rating.
This is a pretty inapt comparison. Railroad watches spent almost their entire life in one position. That's very different from a watch with good enough positional variance properties to be a modern wristwatch chronometer. Pocketwatches also had it easier because they could be larger, which made making a more accurate timekeeper easier.

>>14853605
>tfw you'll never own the 39050076 movement
I'm certain after 40+ years it's no longer the perfect movement but it'd be rather special to own something that used to be that.

>>14852728
Further to my last post, I think there's more to it though regarding quartz. For me, I'd rather companies used chronometer rated quartz in cheaper cases. Not cheap cheap, but imagine a Seiko high end quartz that could keep to 2 seconds a year, put into a casing and design that would cost you $200 or less. That would be cool. You'd have the convenience and the accuracy, which is essentially the whole point of Quartz. But they do have to gate-keep or else they can't make a profit, so I understand. That's yet another reason that if you go Quartz you go vintage Seiko; best bang for your buck for that technology.

>>14852865
One thing to keep in mind is that dress watches were a reaction to the technological advances of the time as well as the move away from pocket watches. The idea was 'who could make the smallest and most accurate watch'. This carried into the 50's because the war years meant aesthetic stagnation.

Fast-forward to the late 80's where everything was bigger, including clothing and fashion. The more, the better, and watches began to follow suit. Then athletes and body-builder celebs began wearing and endorsing specific brands, and you have the 2000s.

The reason why smaller sizes may not come back right now is that there is no interest in minimizing technology of this kind anymore; it's not seen as higher status to have a smaller mechanical watch. Most customers want bigger because it shows off the watch and the fact that they're spending their disposable income on a luxury item. I can't see this changing because the function of a watch will not change; it's an unnecessary luxury now, not a tool that everyone needs.

>>14852918
When I was younger I used to buy watches in this design line a lot, though they were all 100$ or less quartz from Citizen. This style will always be timeless, so you can't go wrong. What you can do though is go on Chrono24, set the budget you want to spend, and start looking.

>>14853601
Do you find yourself wearing that with any regularity? How has it held up?
Any regrets?

>>14853631
>imagine a Seiko high end quartz that could keep to 2 seconds a year
Seiko has never made a watch with close to that accuracy. Only citizen has, and only this year. Best seiko is 5spy, of which they've made 7 movement families.

>>14853568
Thanks it's a custom lumed ceramic bezel I got on ebay.

>>14853634
Not that regularly, as it is a dress watch. Held up fine honestly. Just wish I got that blue alligator strap earlier considering it took celadon years of excuses to finally send me a blue strap. That strap also ended up not being alligator due to said excuses..

>>14853000
Devilles were the mid-tier line for Omega in the 50's and 60's. If properly regulated, they're within COSC, but quite honestly I'd go for either the Seamaster or Constellation lines, which are more expensive but have better movements on a whole. My grandfather's was a Geneve like the one on the left of your pic, only it was in gold. It performs, but not well, and it's not aesthetically pleasing enough to warrant getting it serviced at this time (though I probably should since my watchmaker is getting on in years). In terms of what I would spend on one, if I were getting a Constellation in good condition from the 60's is around 2000 or less. I'd be comfortable with that, as it was their premier movement and is comparable in terms of quality to ones made today. But with vintage you always have to factor in the cost of servicing if you buy a watch that has problems. Furthermore, if you send it to Omega directly, it'll cost you an arm and a leg AND they replace all parts that are worn (including the dial and hands), so if you want to keep its value you have to go independent.

Also >>14853006 brings up great points about frankenwatches.

>>14853605
I understand that, however the pocket watches were also adjusted to 5 or more positions, and you can find many a pocket watch owner who wears their watch in a random pocket where the crown is not always up, the dial is not always sideways, and where they leave it dial up overnight. So, I disagree with you about positional variance, at least in terms of how they were regulated for daily use (also remembering that the RR watches were also distributed and used by RR mechanics, engineers, etc., so people who were moving around a lot). For the same reason that Tourbillons don't actually make a difference in terms of performance, a well regulated pocket watch from this era will perform as well as many modern watches today.

>>14853640
>Only citizen has, and only this year
From what anecdotes I've read the +/-1s a year is really under ideal conditions. To save yourself from unrealistic expectations, add like 5-10s to that for real world use. Same apparently goes for their regular chronomaster line (+/-5s per yr) and GS quartz too (+/-10s was it?), add about 10s leeway to the stated, idealized, rating lest be eternally buttfrustrated. I dunno how true this is and YMMV but there's a lot of anal types that measure this and are disappointed and complain. They're not officially certified to run at that time after all, so complainers are SOL as far as the manufacturers are concerned.
It's still phenomenal accuracy for non-atomic quartz though.

>>14853676
> add 5-10 seconds
lol no

My chronomaster, fwiw, is running at 4spy in real world use over the last 8 months. Even my citizen 4Mega from the 80s keeps its original 5spy spec assuming 12-18 hours per day of wrist time, given its variance of rate with temperature. My Seiko 5spy watches from the Superior line don't do as well, but that's unsurprising, as twin quartz watches perform particularly badly as quartz crystals age (it throws off the calibration of the thermocompensation).

We obviously don't have enough data on the 0100 yet to make clear judgments, but I would be astounded if "real world" use was 6-11spy.

>>14853640
Thanks for the correction; quartz is not my area of expertise at all and there are others here who know more about it than I do (like you).

I wonder on that though; if I did a substitution, consider it. A Seiko that does 5spy, cased and sold for $200 or less. Who wouldn't buy it?

>>14853605
One other thing; about the size making the accuracy easier. Yes, this is true, but what has happened is that the watchmaking industry went the other direction from the 50's onwards; instead of making balances larger, they made them oscillate faster because they found that this was also a way to increase stability over time. Hence things like the Zenith oscillator and so forth.

RR watches were not wallclocks though; they had to deal with changes of temperature like modern watches, changes of position, all of it. If you wear a watch that has a winding mechanism that is either a bumper or an inefficient one-way wind (like the 2824-a) and if you work at a desk, you'll immediately find out just how little your watch will change position or move unless you're walking or washing your hands.

Just a few thoughts...and they're all debatable really.

>>14852918
Fwiw, I like these Citizens as dress watches, though I haven't seen one irl. Maybe go rectangular?

>pic related

>>14853668
Thank you for your input on the omega, I was looking to get a nice vintage dresswatch. I think 2k would be a bit too much im looking to spend no more than 1200. Would in your opinion it be better to get a deville or geneve?

>>14853718
I mean Seiko makes the sacm171. 10spy, sapphire crystal, hardened case. Only real downside is lack of an independent hour hand. Can be easily had for under $350 and often under $300 but they are not very popular still.

>>14853724
if you look around enough you can find second hand constellations for around the price you are looking for. So better get constellation or seamaster, instead of deville/geneve

>>14853655
>Just wish I got that blue alligator strap earlier considering it took celadon years of excuses to finally send me a blue strap. That strap also ended up not being alligator due to said excuses..
I've read a lot of complaints about this.
I wonder if the company is truly trustworthy, That whole thing doesn't cast them in a flattering light.

>>14853724
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/seamaster--id11759883.htm

Go to Chrono24, set your price range, and search. There are tonnes of possibilities within this price range, but it all depends on the aesthetics you want. I'd avoid private sellers unless you can vouch for the seller; at least with stores you can call them up and talk to them.

>>14853732
What is interesting to me is that we live in an era where having a watch that is accurate is meaningless because phones are always more accurate (unless the watch is synced with satellite). So the purpose of a watch becomes a few things:

1) Status signal.
2) Heritage signal.
3) Personal interest/hobby signal.

For practical uses, a quartz that is accurate in the year would be excellent; issue it to all schoolchildren, one watch for their life. Make it as easy to buy as a Swatch plastic thing.

Mechanicals fall into the 3 options I listed above because the real-world reason for their existence is gone, so the 3 above are the only reasons left to have one and wear it. When the older generation that relied on watches dies out, who's going to care about status or heritage of mechanicals? It's more interesting to the average Millenial if you have the latest iPhone than a 1965 Constellation.

That's why I was saying yesterday to the young Law Anon that ultimately it's just about getting what you want and saying to hell with social watch conventions from a generation ago. If you go mechanical, go for the technology, the time in history, the aesthetics, whatever, but for fuck's sake don't think about what others will think of you wearing something. It's...unnecessary today.

>>14853766
Damn..forgot a pic. Here's something some people find ugly but I think is exceptionally beautiful. The movement isn't particularly rare, but this combination of movement and case is.

>>14853646
Very cool. Where did you get the coin edge bezel? Looks sniceee

>>14853761
The ordering of the watch itself was fine; shipped fast enough considering how long milkbag customs holds shit coming from singapore. The deal was supposed to be that they'd send the watch with the brown strap and then send over the blue strap later since it wasn't available at the time. If I'm being cynical then it's just a case of "well we have his money now, no need to hurry".

>"dude what size should we make our new watch?"
>"let's make it too big for 99% of normal people to wear"
>"lol good idea"

>>14851147

The 3 is 200$ on jomashop too

#borntodare

If you could only shitpost one watch to /wt/ for the next year which watch would you pick?

>>14853970
What could possibly go wrong?

>>14853776
Also on ebay.

>>14854036
>that bracelet

>>14854054
Two piece construction, titanium. Absurdly difficult to find nowadays. It is legit a rare combination in total. The only downside is that the movement is rather uninteresting, the finishing is...average, and the butterfly clasp does undo itself a little too much for my liking.

>>14853970
I wouldn't shitpost anything. You'd have to be a sad lonely /r9k/ reject to do that. let alone for a whole year.

If were talking quality of movement and durability. Is in your opinions the longine heritage lines better or worse than junghans meister?

>>14853970

>>14854224
Post the specific two watches you're interested in.

>>14854317
Junghans meister classic, automatic movement
Longines flagship heritage

>>14854316
>Just give me a watch that makes me look like a garish slav drug dealer.
>Say no more.

opinions on the new devil diver reissue?

>>14854380
>44mm
Is this the new midsize for watches?

winter sotc

>>14854429
That polerouter is pretty gorgeous. Got a movement shot by any chance? Also what specific ref is it?

Thinking of adding another watch, any recommendations?

I was thinking about a Nomos Orion (used)

>>14850526
1 years salary...... you need a better job.

>>14853830
fat

>>14851321
That a ugly pile of shite, I could pick out a more tasteless datejust

>>14851946
I think you already know the answer, vintage datejust (1601) is the best way to go. Omega constellation is also good for a grad, as it's more humble. Don't get a fucking pocket watch, jesus chris, your a professional. Unless you find one to match your steam punk goggles.

The accuracy of my 114270 honestly shocks me. The thing is over 10 years old, serviced once half way though, and it still keeps nearly 0spd. I don’t baby it, I wear it almost daily and it just fucking works and looks brand new.

Fucking Rolex man.

>be me a 19 year old zoomer
>been working at wagie job for 3 months part time in college
>obtain about $2500
>spend it all on pic related
>tfw my parents find out and tell me they're going to stop paying for my tuition
IT'S GOTTA HUUUUUUURRTTTT PHUCKERS

It should arrive by Thursday

>>1485442 good taste anon

perfect 2 watch collection?
I would like a dress watch though

>>14855033
I dont have the authority to call that perfect but its darned nice.

>>14854505
Wow the Seamaster is so tiny, how is that possible?

My chink strap tool broke. What's the best strap changing tool on the market?

>>14855101
Bergeon 6767-F

>>14855033
Love that G-Shock, but how's the visibility?

>>14850195
>>14850212
This, I had a couple guys from work compliment my Casio Duro at a party

>>14853434
Daniel Wellington

>>14855053
semenmaster = 41.5mm diameter
memeonthemoon = 42mm
it's just the case shape tricking the eye

>>14855122
visibility is good for a negative display, just doesn't show well in photos.

>tachymeters all around
>not a single circular slide rule
What are you people, not nerds or something? When's the last time you used the tachymeter? Bet I use my strap-clipped plastic compass more often.

>>14853830
Are you suggesting there's a brand of luxury watches that isn't strictly part of the pinstripe-wearing wanker getup? Because that's what a pinstripe-wearing wanker would have on his wrist.

>>14855489
You think that most people that buy a Daytona use the chronograph?? You don't know much about watches do you.

>>14854505

A (vintage) dresswatch with a light colour dial.

>>14854690
You are a moron.

>>14855588
That's what I was thinking, you hit the nail on the head, looked at omega constellations but I would like a non omega

>>14855614
Plenty to choose from. What do you want to spend and whats the minimum diameter?

>>14854432
It was prob the cheapest polerouter I could find on ebay, but the hands/dial/crown is all original and in very good condition and the movement visually looks ok and is performing +2spd with good power reserve. I don't think the movement is directly original to the watch but the reference number of the model and the movement matches, so I guess it's technically not a franken by some people's standards.

>>14855637
Around a £1000, I would push it to £1200. That's my max for a dress watch as I'm more a casual dresser, I do like dress watch aesthetic. Always wanted a polerouter but never found the right example.

>>14855655
>>14854432
Oh yeah, it's 20368-2. The dial is lovely, constantly shifting between silver and gold depending on lighting

Is the ETA C07.611 actually crappy?
(it's the 80hr pr movement swetch is pushing into all its minor brands these days)
Give the choice between two identical watches, but one has this powertmatic and the other a 2824, which one do you go for?

I don't know if this new caliber even comes in different grades like the old 2824/36/92's.

>>14855690
Any 2824 is better, even if the powermatics are based on it.

Higher power reserve comes from both a lower beatrate and a plastic escapement which is less sturdy than a standard Swiss lever escapement movement. IIRC they are trying to switch over to fully automated production.

As it seems they haven't learned from the whole whole shitty mess with the Swatch that had a robot/machine regulated plastic movement that was substantially shittier than a chink ETA clone while costing more.

I just got gifted a 20 year old dress watch. I think it has an eta 2892 movement. It still keeps good time but the power reserve is low. Maybe 18 hours tops after being worn for 12 hours. Should I send it to a watchmaker or is this normal?

>>14855771
>As it seems they haven't learned from the whole whole shitty mess with the Swatch that had a robot/machine regulated plastic movement that was substantially shittier than a chink ETA clone while costing more.
Are you refering to the sistem51 (or whatever the fuck it was called) movements they were putting in the actual Swatch branded watches?

>>14855785
Yeah, i forgot the name.

>>14855656
Keep searching. It sounds like you already know what you want. You can keep saving to buy a nice example, don't cheap out on an inferior example you'll regret it.

>>14854578
that omega is redone, the hands and hour markers are shite

>>14855834
or the dial is redone complete wrong, since the double t's are wrongly there

>>14854064
man of culture i see

>>14854380
Love the colors
>>14854411
Hate the size.

>>14854505
>Homos basedrion
Yikes

>>14855964
name an argument why its bad besides meme spewing

>>14856072
>>14856072
>>14856072

>>14855799
I have a good idea. Nice just to here someone else to say it, thanks!

>>14855655
>>14855664
A micro-rotor too, neat. Do also like the twisted lugs. Do you know if the movement is old enough for it to not use bi-metal construction for the balance wheel (making it more sensitive to temperature changes)?

>>14855777
18 hour PR is certainly not normal. Are you sure it only gets 18 hours from a full wind though?

>>14853378

if only i hadn't such tiny manlet wrists

>>14852841
Mine is pretty small (billed 38mm but seems smaller) and I like it