/fa/ - Fashion

>>14836139

>>14836139
Does this count?

>>14836139
Where can I find a large bank of sewing patterns?

>>14836155
Why go through all that effort putting gussets into the armpits, but not the crotch?

>>14836190
are you retarded? the whole bottom side pics are about the crotch gusset

>>14836178
a little tending towards fascism, i was thinking more of a soviet feel but still ggreat pic

will post more stuff

>>14836250

>>14836250

>>14836280

>>14836250
specifically i was hoping for soviet/chinese sewing patterns that would look like this:

>>14836250

why woudl you wanna cosplay as a fucking 20th-century proletariat

>>14836699
why not?

what i want to do is create one and then dye it

>>14836699
Imagine not wanting to do this

How do you poop in these things?
Do commies just not poop?

if anyone is still following this, I found a snippet from an obscure paper that cites a 1942 patternmaking document for the war department. however I'm not a patternmaker (or even someone who sews a lot) so I'm pretty oblivious as to how to take this from a diagram to a clothing, and where to sew. any help is appreciated.

>>14837866
like, for example, where are the sleeves? what is the weird construction on the left? sorry, i'm really a noob,

>>14837869
I think the left piece IS the sleeve

>>14837929
yes, the bits that look like they're 3D are folds/darting
the triangle superimposed on the sleeve is there to show you the focus of the curve, as with the shape attached. the sleeve is the shape with curved edges.
overall it's a little complex but if you blow up these patterns and give it a few tries this isn't that hard to make

>>14836155
>>14836740
how hard would it be to make one of these? do i need to find someone to do it for me, or is this a skill that can be aqcuired somewhat quickly? just saw this and i feel autistically obsessed with it

>>14838126
It's something that a child can learn, they used to teach sewing in home economics back when elementary schools had budgets.
You'll still want to do a few practice pieces though.

Heck there's probably a few classes you can take at your local fabric store or maker space.

>>14836139
What is he wearing?

>>14838296
he is wearing a productivist jumpsuit that he designed. a professor in japan made a recreation for a museum; i emailed him to see if he'd give me the pattern.

>>14838193
yeah i think i want to start with these cause these patterns were meant for peasants right? thus with my limited sewing skills maybe i can cobble one together too

>>14838126
the resources i've seen suggest that it's not hard. check out https://lizhaywood.com.au/re-creating-thayahts-tuta-mission-complete/, a woman recreates the tuta and gives some helpful tips and tricks

>>14837933
I see, thank you. How do you create that curve? freehand it? Also, on the right top, what are the extra seams down the sides and middle? does that mean I need to cut out 4 pieces of cloth and sew them together? or is it one piece that has lines on it?

Another possibility for ez fun is balenciaga's one seam coat. pic attached. all noob projects.

>>14838476
maybe a telogreika too

>>14838296

>>14837933
like is this where i am supposed to cut?

>>14838476
I wonder if I can get some one to make me one

>>14838566
also seems really easy to do it yourself, clothing of the masses means anyone can make it. i am going to buy some canvas and have at it.

>>14838589
Not gonna practice with some cheap muslin or monkscloth first?

>>14838604
i guess i should. but the canvas i bought is pretty cheap, i'm going to practice with that and then buy a better canvas probably.

>>14838476
Aio Morishita?

I tried several times to contact a German artist who made a jacket based on a pattern by Tatlin, but she didn't respond.
http://www.alexandrahopf.com/_428

>>14838995
haha, yes! that's the one. unfortunately he hasn't responded yet so it might be a lost cause.

have you tried making any garments before? i don't have anything else from the constructivist patterns besides some of the usual suspects but i have a couple old commie guides.

>>14838995
oh she has also made a version of rodchenko's jumpsuit. interesting.

>>14836828
It's a full-zip jumpsuit, so you just undo the button and unzip the fly and pull it down to your ankles, like a pair of pants, except that instead of the button and the fly starting around your waist they start around your neck.

>>14839225
>have to strip completely nekked to poop

Communism is truly dehumanizing.

>>14839228
I dunno, maybe you have an undergarment, longjohns or an A-top or whatever.

>>14839228
>dehumanizing
Pooping naked is the most natural thing in the world, it feels freeing. No other animal wears clothes while it poops

>>14839265
>reverting to a feral, animalistic mindset just to poop
Dehumanizing.

>>14839267
>humans
>not animals
delusional hubris

>>14839320
God gave Man dominion over beasts.

>>14839328
im beast

>>14839328
Yet we remain bestial, just like King David ruled and remained an Israelite. We are called to be greater than curs, but we will never be free of their nature. Thus the tendency for sin and the necessity of Christ.

>>14839209
I take sewing classes and currently I am working on a jacket based on a 90s commercial pattern, which is almost finished. None of what I made has something to do with the Russian avant garde, apart from one ill-fitting sweater playing with geometric figures.

>>14839503
your pic looks pretty sick

>>14839503
post your work? that looks really amazing, where did you get the pattern for it?

>>14838476
>How do you create that curve? freehand it?
if you're good, or use a french curve
>Also, on the right top, what are the extra seams down the sides and middle? does that mean I need to cut out 4 pieces of cloth and sew them together?
perhaps but you could also dart them. the ones at the shoulder continue down through the waist (front pattern) where they go in further

the sleeve looks reasonable here though. it has darts also
>>14838543

>>14839671
The jumpsuit is not made by me, but by a French artist named Michel Aubry, who made the pattern himself based on pictures (so says the galery). Funnily enough, I asked about the availability of the jumpsuit on here in 2017 and that pic was the answer.
http://galerieevameyer.com/expositions/presentationarchives/74/the-imminence-of-poetics-30eme-biennale-de-sao-paulo

Pic related I made.

>>14836139
what kind of shoes are those?

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>>14839503
Where do I even begin learning more about how to make this?

>>14838543
The back line is made due to sewing two sides together. The darts are diamond looking shapes under the pockets. The question mark labeled bits may be separate panels. Older patterns often used separate panels so the panels could be arranged on a boot of fabric get the most out of the least material.
>>14840300
I remember you from the collage.

I've been working on some stuff. Some of you guys may remember the corduroy jacket I made years ago.

>>14841882
Are you talking about sewing in general or specifically this jumpsuit?

>>14841919
Was it a red bulky bomber?

Oh I like this a lot. I can't visualise things very well, but I should try making something.

>>14841984
Yes it was. People called me spacecondom for it

>>14841984
I guess sewing first, though I'll be fine with just the jump suit.

>>14840300
dude this is amazing. pattern?

>>14841919
show more accomplishments

>>14839503
mate this is sick, impressed that you made this and to what seems to be such a high standard. Want to see more.

>>14842664
nvm im a retard

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>>14842021
Regarding sewing I suggest you start with a commercial pattern of a t shirt. A t shirt is very simple. 4 parts. It is a basic project that introduces you how to draw patterns, how to cut fabric, stitch with a machine and how 2d pieces turn into a 3d whole.

Regarding the jumpsuit my first suggestion is to scale all the parts from the image to your size. Taking the green line, the distance between your waist and the ankle as basis. I don't think the pockets have inside lining. These are initial thoughts and I am open to suggestions from others. I'm not entirely sure about the size of the other leather straps.

Atacac have some really nice patterns

https://shop.atacac.com/collections/sharewear

This is the most based effay thread right now on fa

>>14841919
really cool, thank you for your help. i will maybe attempt to make it but it also seems very difficult, i have no idea how they expected peasants to make this kind of shit

>>14842879
this is also super helpful, thank you so much for sharing. if i ever end up making one i’ll cite you. any tips for making the clothes seem professional and not amateurish? i know sometimes there’s always a lot of pucker and shitty fabric skills. i just bought some rotary cutters and a mat, they should arrive soon.

>>14842940
these are insane holy shit, it could literally be some sort of designer wear i think from how interesting some of these patterns are.

>>14840300
post pattern please!

>>14842943
Absolutely based thread I agree. It's always cool to see what stuff people make themselves. It's better than the constant circle jerking that happens on /fa/

not really a diy thread from the title but i’ve been into dyeing things recently. example attached.

next step i want to try some of the shibori techniques but also i don’t really want to, cause they seem kind of boring. i have some other ideas; i’ll have to try them out and let y’all know

>>14842879
Hey, thanks for the tips. I'm the anon you were responding to, but it's great to see other people also taking in your advice.

nice thread

>>14843928
No problem. Might even try to make one myself. Looking at the pockets, they seem to be square patch pockets. I think the leather strap is sewn on top of the woolen pocket the same way, but the pencil holder confuses me.

The french guy has a website with a contact folder.

>>14843928
No problem. Might even try to make one myself. Looking at the pockets, they seem to be square patch pockets. I think the leather strap is sewn on top of the woolen pocket the same way, but the pencil holder confuses me.

The french guy has a website with a contact form.

>>14844320
i think it would look cooler with accordion pockets but i’m unsure

>>14844436
the pockets are big enough that accordioning them might make them bulge out too far.

>>14842940
thanks for postin this love these

>>14844320
>not stitching across the top edge of the pocket
2/10, would not baste

say speaking of POCKETS
long shot but does anyone here own some CCP/deepti/etc with this style of pockets? I've been trying to figure out how to recreate these properly. they have 1 zipper for the sides and a shorter zipper at the top; the pocket sort of forms a right triangle that sticks out from the body
if anyone could post more detailed pictures of these i would greatly appreciate it

>>14842879
vault boy outfit

>>14846346
i think more or less they are like this but i'd still like to see the inside

>>14844320
oh btw the pencil holder is made just by stitching down the middle of the pocket thru both the pocket and the chest so that it forms another compartment, make sense?

>>14846375
Is the leather rectangle next to the breast pocket. Not on top of it, as with the thigh pockets?

>>14846431
i mean idk the photo's kinda small
alternatively you could just sew a pencil pocket to the outside (or inside) of the chest pocket before attaching the whole deal, which looks like what is done with the square pocket on the right

>>14846431
>>14844320

>>14843914
do you have more pictures? I want to see an actual photo/multiple angles. might look cool

i found this as "zero waste" idk what its actually called

>>14846375
do you have an ig or something i can follow?

>>14847664
unfortunately i’m not at home right now but i have other weird angles. i’ll upload more when i get to my desktop

>>14848434
there’s also a second a
part to this image that shows you the layout on a yard of cloth

>>14848658
if i had it i would post it

>>14849006
no worries, i will get home and post it. today i bought some canvas to try to make something. might try that pattern but i would be disappointed if i went through a lot of work and ended up with a carhartt jacket

to be fair i don’t know enough sewing to make anything cool, but i’ll at least try, why not

>>14839330
interestingly enough rick owens ss19 referenced this stuff

>>14849019
thank you
i wish i had time to start somethhing

>>14849058
i technically probably won’t have the time to do most of this stuff either...it’s just interesting right now and i just want to learn more about it

>>14849168
it's 3am rn for me because i have decided to tidy up my fashion folders over 3 hours ago, because of this thread
talk about not having time and spending it wisely, im not even half way done

>>14848656
yea @ listlesslewicki, i post clothes and other stuff i make
i like your dye job btw, what was the original color?

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to all tentatively interested anons in this thread: simple sewing is not that hard. but you have to be willing to screw up a bit. making your own clothes is a rewarding and enjoyable hobby. what's more, it is a skill that i believe is important to preserve in the home/community, as it has largely been taken over by industrialized large scale processes and vast conglomerates. compared with a hundred or even fifty years ago, how many modern housewives (or house husbands, for that matter) do you think choose to, or even have the ability to, sew clothes for their families? mass production has its place and there are many items that are certainly easier to make in a factory setting. but wouldn't you rather have your gran knit you a cozy hat?

start simple and before you know it you'll be having a good time.

>>14850143
I meant to post this so another bump I guess

>>14848403
It's kind of like origami but with clothing basically

>>14850143
>making your own clothes is a rewarding and enjoyable hobby
Today it's a hobby, but not so long ago, it was just what the Lower Class had to do if they wanted clothing

>>14850163
surely this is the theme of the thread, no?

>>14842940
good post, thats a sick jacket

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>>14842001
Is that a bodywarmer you're making right now or?

>>14842301
>>14843374
There is no pattern. I switched the collar and a sleeve of a blue sweater with a red one. As for the geometric forms you sew it 'inside'. I don't know if there is a term for it and I am not a native speaker, but I can try to explain.
1. Imagine you want a blue sweater with a red square with a circumference of, let's say, 20x20 cm.
2. Cut a hole of 18x18cm in the blue sweater. It gives you a seam allowance of 1 cm.
3. Cut a piece of red fabric of 22x22 cm. It gives you a seam allowance of 1 cm.
4. With the good sides of the fabric facing each other, straight stitch one side. Cut in the corners just near the stitch, so you can fold the fabric. Stitch another side etc. Your stitching has to follow the 20x20 circumference.
Is that clear enough?

>>14850127
sort of a linen flax color. pretty light

>>14850155
the chinese says "opposite side different color"

rick owens jumbo brother coat pattern.

Bumping for David Mabb's interpretation of the Rodchenko suit. Before you ask; yes, I did email him and ask for patterns. No, he was not able to give them to me, he had just commissioned them from a tailor.

>>14851167
this is a nice coat, i tried to make the arm one time but cocked it up a bit since i just eyeballed it instead of blowing it up. really elegant simple cut. i will try again eventually
this isn't the precise coat i think (it's striped) but if you look at the sleeve you can see that the seam sort of spirals from the underarm to the outside of the wrist. lovely

>>14850603
I have a set of shoulder patterns similar to these, I can scan and post them if anyone is interested.

>>14851674
ah no way! you've tried to make the pattern before? i can't read any of the text, where do you attach to what and how do you make that weird sleeve?

>>14850143
I didn't realise that several of my younger sister's dresses were made by my mum. She's actually really good at that kinda thing, but she's been hella depressed recently so I can't really ask her for help.

>>14851962
try to ask her in a good minute if she can teach you a bit, else learning it is a lot of fun either way, just give it a try
good luck to you and your mom anon

>>14836139
Where can I find some nice 100% cotton fabric by the yard

>>14851953
>>14851953
uh it's all in italian of which i know nothing but i just figured it out based on my previous knowledge. the colored bits are likely extraneous design details. remember, dotted lines are folds and solid lines are cuts so just imagine folding in all the dotted lines for a better idea of the shape.

the sleeve is just assembled as it's shown on the pattern, sew along the edges and it should come out properly, the apex of the curve will connect to the shoulder seam i imagine.
try making a smaller scale version to figure out how the pattern pieces fit together... the only thing i notice is that the pocket pattern is not shown, unless the orange bit is supposed to be a big-ass patch pocket.

>>14852092
>your local fabric store
>w*lmart
wait you said nice uh
there are websites that do yardage but much of it is walmart-tier. order samples if you can. otherwise you can find offcuts and remnants on ebay and etsy and such but you have to do most of your judgement based on pictures

>>14851953
>>14851167
for those with undeveloped spatial manipulation abilities

>>14851681
Please do

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more 1 seam coats

>>14852287
what's the deal with a pocket flap on both front and back? does that mean the flaps attach together somehow?

i bought some 8 oz canvas, i don't know how it would look with any of these but i might try something.

i'm curious whether it is possible to make something off of a flat drawing instead of a pattern

>>14836139
Fuck that's sick

>>14853474
nah son the flaps fold in and attach to the pocket at each side

banpu

>>14851681
post it!!

>>14856396
>>14856396
...i'm too lazy to scan all these individually
basically cut the shape shown, if it has a notch in it (i.e. 13/14) cut it out and join the edges together to give it a curve. numbers that are consecutive are meant to go together; one should be slightly larger than the other to accommodate for padding volume
copying patterns 100% is not as important as understanding why they are drafted the way they are and how to alter them in 3 dimensions

>>14857433
thank you dear friend

>>14857441
sure thing guy. go git gud

>>14836139
Yohji's Fall 2017 had peasant and working class elements, but not sure it's strong enough for what you want.
love the thread, wish pure DIY threads didn't die so quickly

>>14858172
looks good man, i think diy threads shouldn't be kept alive longer than they're meant to be alive, but this one has been pretty productive (ha, ha).

that's a good one, paul harnden and ziggy chen have more of a peasant feel too

gonna post some shit i made for a bump

>>14843188
- Don't work too fast
- Don't work when you are stressed
- Don't tug/pull your fabrics too much, but this depends on the behavior of the fabric. 'Steer' it.
- Wash your fabrics beforehand. Your finished project could shrink and discolour if you don't.

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