/fa/ - Fashion

First for China brands

>>14518062
>>14517791
What? I've seen a bunch of movement replicas on some site, and some are quartz, and some just have a Chinese/Seiko movement instead.

>>14518109
Movements are “replicated” only on very expensive replicas. Even then, you can virtually always tell a difference as soon as you look at the movement itself if you know much about the watch. There are some exceptions where you have to do some real digging if it’s a simple movement. Even expensive replicas can’t get anywhere near the same movement so they’ll do some modulated trickery to perform the same functions. If you’re familiar with the real version you’ll be able to pick out the differences quickly if you know anything about the original movement.

Looking for a new watch. Something a bit more dressy and not as bulky as a diver for around $150 or less since im a poorfag

I hope everyone's Monday went well. Mine didn't throttle up as planned, but that's ok because we're one day down and only four more to go. Enjoy, guys and gals.

-Bill-
USN STRONG 1979-1980
"Find me on the beach with a bottle of sailor jerry and a yarn to spin"
Whatever happened to ROCK AND ROLL???
Location : The Big Dawg House

Trying to decide between a Rolex Explorer (current version) and a Tudor North Flag.

Before you say "just get the Rolex, dumbass", I love the face design of the Tudor, it's their first in-house, and I likely won't run into anyone else wearing one. Then again, the Explorer is timeless, beautiful, and the bracelet is fantastic.

Thoughts?

>>14518244
I'd be looking at a Seiko or maybe an Orient. The 2nd gen Orient Bambino is in your price range, and non-watch people will probably think you spent $500+ on it.

>>14518248
12 and 6 look dumb as fuck imo
also the power gauge is horrible
I'd get an explorer

>>14518253
Thanks I have a orient watch now and I’m pretty happy with it so might cop the Bambino

>>14518259
Yeah, the Tudor face seems to be very polarizing, but I like it. That's why this is a tough decision.

>>14518248
try them on, honestly north flag isn't bad for a first watch .. if u change ur mind u can always get the explorer later.

black bay 58 is quite nice too. like a sub but half the cost, same specs 200m water resistance, steel, nice case size etc etc.

>>14518266
Too bad it's so cheap so everyone knows that you only got it because you couldn't afford a Rolly.

>>14518266
Tried both, still can't decide. Not really into divers, though. I respect the Black Bay, it's just not for me.

This isn't my first watch, but it will probably get the most wrist time from now on.

>>14518271
No one except watch snobs care what watch snobs think.

>>14518247
>1979-1980

>>14518287
Best year of his life.

What do you guys think about the modern cartier santos? If you get it should you go medium or large? 2 tone or stainless steel? I know that archie thinks the company has veered a little too much on the fashion side but the santos still has history and the tool-less bracelet and being able to swap out the strap effortlessly kind of blew me back. That and it's an inhouse movement now, only negative is that it's apparently a scratch magnet.

>>14518304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko8RNpAJp1I
good overview of it from tim, is this an insane choice for the money?

>>14518304
Love it. I'd get a medium in stainless, but that's because I have tiny bitch wrists. It says "I've got money and sophistication" but not in a "also fuck you" sort of way.

Do people actually listen to what archie thinks?

>>14518304
I tried on a large and medium at an AD and liked the large much better. Def go stainless over 2tone unless youre a boomer (or want to larp as one)

you should definitely find an AD close to you so you can see which fits your wrist better.

>>14518347
also keep in mind the large has a date at 6 and the medium doesnt. The date isnt too badly done, but it would look better without it IMO

>>14518304
cartier is for gays

>>14518350
useful though
so you pull out your digital pocketwatch less

What is a good automatic tool watch with a nice movement window? So not Speedy since it's handwinding.

Also, what are some actually good quartz watches? Is G-Shock really the best quartz tool watch and if so, which one, or is there something better?

>>14518406
Citizen Chronomasters
Seiko Spring Drives
Casio Oceanus

Reminder that Titanium is the best material for everyday wear

>>14518406
omega planet ocean

>>14518351
>tfw bought a cartier and was really proud of it until my friends started calling it a lady's watch

>>14518453
Doesn't it scratch more easily than stainless steel?

>>14518462
nope. grade 5 Ti is stronger than SS. Seiko's dia-shield is good too

Ti is

>non corrosive
>doesnt absorb heat or cold as much
>not allergenic
>less sweaty to wear
>lighter thus more comfortable
>stronger than SS

literally better in every way

>watch thread
>not a single proper watch

Let's change that

>>14518525
Based

>>14518525
>>14518528
Look two tools!

>>14518531
urban outfitters is the that way, goodbye!

>>14518528
YOU are based

>>14518531
Make it 3

>>14518569
>>14518528
>>14518525
What went through your minds when, in stead of buying something nice, you guys chose to buy sinn?

Strap ideas for this? Ive grown fond of light wearing watches, and the SS bracelet, I thought would fit it nicely, makes it overly heavy and overall not that comfortable for the whole day. The leather it came with is shit, not too fond of leather anyway. Brushed case, but polished bezel and hands, so not really a full-on tool watch. Should I just stop complaining as I mostly just wear it to and from work?

It’s up!
https://youtu.be/NjcHy1Ey5FU

>>14518462
Yes it does. I don't give a fuck what that asshole says. Titanium is basically aluminum on steroids I have a higher end titanium seiko and it's as scratched up as you'd expect.

>>14518487
And shows scratches easier. A Ti bracelet will look more scratched up than a a polished stainless steel one.

T. Pelagos

>>14518604
Based

>>14518569
hnnnnnnnng that is actually fucking beautiful fuck the sinn doutbers

>>14518101
Nessun dorma! Nessun dorma!
Tu pure, oh Principessa
Nella tua fredda stanza
Guardi le stelle che tremano
D'amore e di speranza
Ma il mio mistero è chiuso in me
Il nome mio nessun saprà
No, no, sulla tua bocca lo dirò
Quando la luce splenderà
Ed il mio bacio scioglierà
Il silenzio che ti fa mia
(ll nome suo nessun saprà
E noi dovrem, ahimè, morir, morir)
Dilegua, oh notte!
Tramontate, stelle!
Tramontate, stelle!
All'alba vincerò!
Vincerà!
Vincerò!

>>14518581
>not fond of leather
that watch would not look good on a nylon strap though you fumb duck. get a lizard leather strap, would make the watch look kino

>>14518248
Meet in the middle and get a ranger

Is a gray market aquaracer the cheapest way to impress normies w a watch?
>mechanical
>sapphire
>300m wr
>swiss
>tag appears on white paper on fine watchmaking as a historic maison

>>14518304
The Santos Dumont is based and red pilled

>>14518802
Unironically yes, but they don't care about the features, only the name and aesthetics

>>14518610
Untreated Ti is indeed only slightly harder than SS, so it scratches just as easily.
However Citizen uses a hardening processes that make it 5 times harder. I believe Casio's Oceanus line uses hardened Ti, too.

>>14518248
Wasnt the pelagos the first in house from tudor?

>>14518248
North Flag

>>14518248

If you don't care about it keeping calue in the short term go for what you love, the Tudor. If you want to care about it keeping value/invest, go for the Rolex.

Thoughts on the Tisell Pilot? Do any of you guys have this thing?

>>14518869
Less sometimes truly is less.

>>14518869
I got one and fucking adore it. Only three flaws; flaw is the miyota 9015 is free spinning one way, and the spin is loud, but it's not something that bothers me at all. Other flaw is the seconds hand isn't lumed. And the oem strap is fucking trash that you should bin instantly for a Hirsch or rios1931

>>14518905
One could argue that being extremely boring is a 4th flaw

>>14518406
Seiko sbbn tuna

>>14518304
I can't be the only person that finds the santos hideous, right? It's like somebody took the tank and gave it unneeded sportiness, but not enough to make it a sports watch. It has too many screws, too strange of a case and paneling shape, and is stuck in limbo somewhere between a sports watch and a dress watch.

>>14518604
>make a seiko killer
>but you're wholly owned by seiko
Who wins that one?

>>14518924
The japs that convince more people that their only competition is themselves as the shills who parrot the specs and history own watches that are worth actually using as more than a beater or a rare occasion dress watch.

>>14518869

My thought on the Tisell Pilot is that the Stowa Flieger has a dial made by the same house that makes Nomos dials, lumed seconds hand, flame blued hands made in Switzerland, a manual ETA movement, and the correct font and correct proportions of the markers. In such a simplistic watch, details like these make a big difference. The Tisell looks cheap.

>>14518942
Finally, someone said it.

Who has actually fucked around with regulating their watches?

>>14518960

Bought myself a Seiko from an "official" store on eBay. It was -10 seconds per day out of the box. Took it to a Seiko AD in my hometown and they regulated it as a warranty thing, free of charge, even though -10 seconds per day was within the specs for that movement.

Now it runs near perfect. All in all, quite nice.

The Yachtmaster I is the best Rolex, prove me wrong

>>14519008
As you said. that's within specs so it's surprising they would do that. Maybe the battery nigger was bored

>>14518924
They are basically competing against themselves, since the Swiss don't have much in that pricerange.

>>14518960
Did it on most of my vintage pieces and my currently Amphibia. Went from +45 to +5sec per day on the Amphibia and on an older Poljot i had was able to do +10 secs.

>>14519027
Attempt to describe how difficult the process was

>>14519023

It was actually the finest store in town, with some proper watchmaker doing the job. I guess they just wanted to show off the quality of their service, right there, next to the stand of Grand Seikos.

>>14519034
Fuck I wish the seiko store in my "town" (1m+ ppl) was like that. AFAIK their solution to every problem is to ship the watch to japan.

>>14519032

A timegrapher seems to cost around 150 USD on eBay. If you can get the back off of your watch and have access to a toothpick and a timegrapher, it shouldn't be difficult. The videos describing the process on youtube make it seem quite straight forward.

>>14519052
I'm familiar with the process but did it take you say 3 tries to get it right or 10?

>>14519032
Either get a timegrapher, or build do it like i did. Cardboard box and using you phone as one.

Takes a bit of trial and error though.

>>14519059
>Either get a timegrapher, or build do it like i did. Cardboard box and using you phone as one.

whatever the fuck is this trainwreck my autocorrect created.

Build a cardboard box with and good place to put your phone microphone close to the balance, and use one of the adjustment apps. Do it in a quiet room and ideally pivot whatever you are using to move the regulator instead of directly applying it.

Whenever you see a straight line instead of noisy dots you're usually good to go, but result may vary so it may take you a few tries to get it right. A few of the Raketa's i worked on years ago had wild +3/-4 adjustments and it too a while to figure out what was wrong.

>>14519070
I wish phoneposters had their own separate internet. I don't care if you're hungry anon. I would cut you loose in a heartbeat if it meant I could get rid of phoneposters.

>>14519015
Certainly too underappreciated for what you get

>>14519092
It's underappreciated because it looks like shit.

talk me out of this at $600

>>14519094
Correction, it's underappreciated because normies swear they need 300m water resistance and go for the sub instead. It's ugly because you're tasteless and uninteresting. The 116655 is objectively one of the best looking Rolex watches in the modern catalog.

Are Rotary watches any good for poor unifag?

>>14519104
You're suffering from the dunning kruger effect. Stupid people are unable to accurately assess how well they're performing because they're fucking stupid.

>>14519103
Seiko is a good watch for sub 500 dollar purchases when you haven't committed to a luxury watch, anything above is just money that could be spent on something better and most people who aren't trolling will reccomend you take that route instead. You'll be a lot happier in the long term with a watch with service costs that don't exceed half of the watch's actual value. So my best advice is to go cheaper if you insist on buying seiko or wait a little longer for a piece that will serve you well for a lifetime to come, cheers.

>>14519108
They're ok, I have a quartz one from 2008 that I got from my dad

>>14519104
>feeding the troll
Don't do that.
Also, I think the basic steel/platinum with a blue dial is greatly underrated. It looks much more refined and unique than a Submariner.

>>14519103
I hate those hour hands and unguarded crowns so if I weer you I'd consider an orient trident which has a crown guard and a slightly less ugly hour hand.

I don't own any orients. I have 6 seikos but I would take the orient over what you posted.

>>14519110
When your only response is an overly complex "you're dumb and that's why you're wrong", you truly have nothing to say and no point to make. I can tell you're more in your element when trying to suck off citizen and seiko to make people mad. I suggest you go back to that and learn more before you return to having a legitimate discussion.

>>14519115
I wasn't trolling. yachmasters look like shit. They're cheap for the same reason that the land master is the cheapest spring drive watch. it looks like shit.

>>14518769
Looks too much like a field watch, and I already have 3 of those, which is probably too many for a sane collection.

>>14519115
I agree, I came close to buying the rhodium dial a few years ago. The sub isn't necessarily indicative of a normie, but the guy wearing a sub is a lot more likely to be one as opposed to the guy in the YM. As a YM1 fan, what's your opinion on the YM2?

>>14519084
I'm not a fan of phoneposting either but that's the comfiest way to shitpost off the shitter.

>>14519118
The dunning kruger effect isn't overly complex. If you think it's complex that's just more evidence towards you being stupid.

>>14518525
>the perfect chronograph doesn't exis-
Yeah, I'm think the Deutsch are based.

>>14519129
They were based in the 1940's but nowadays they're sniveling cowards who let their citizens get jailed for telling the truth.

>>14518248
They’re both great watches and you won’t go wrong with either one. I hate to play the Rolex brigade, but I think you should get the Explorer if you don’t already own a Rolex. I really like the Northflag and have actually thought about buying one before, but it seems like a watch you get later in a collection because it’s a little weird.

Another thing is you can easily sell the Rolex and buy a Northflag if you later realize you made a mistake with the Explorer and not lose out on much money.

>>14519125
Why didn't you buy it in the end?
>YM2
I wouldn't wear one, I think it's too big and I don't like the bezel. I just don't see the appeal, do you?
If you just want a big watch, the Deepsea is more tasteful IMO.

>>14519117
You mean the Orient Triton? I agree about the hands but the dial is way too busy. I was thinking about having the hand set swapped out on the Seiko because yeah the hour hand is really what's holding me back.

>>14519112
Meh, a $500 Seiko will last just as long as any luxury watch I can afford. I'll eat a service cost or two even if the service price to retail price ratio is worse.

>>14518824
Nope, Caliber MT5621 was first used in 2015.

>>14518856
Thanks dude, didn't think it would even get one vote

>>14518861
I don't plan on selling any of my watches. Problem is I love both equally.

>>14519144
Thanks man, that actually makes a lot of sense. I could always get a used Explorer, so I wouldn't be eating a lot of the price if I sold it.

>>14519110
Such a reddit thing to quote a random psychological phenomenon completely out of context.

>>14519146
I eventually just decided it had too much of a silverish look to it with the stainless steel case and bracelet, rhodium dial, and platinum bezel. Despite the fact that I was a big fan of that powder blue seconds hand, it just wasn't enough to fully make it worth it.

As far as the YM2, I don't hate it, but I definitely think it would be much nicer with a few adjustments. First, they need to undo the metallic bezel variant, that should be a feature of the original YM only, it just looks awful on the second. Also, a 39-41mm version would wear like a dream in my opinion. Those two things considered, I would be seriously considering it (even despite my lack of interest in regatta racing and preference towards diving bezels over chronographs)

>>14519147
yeah triton my bad. I'm thinking about getting one for my bro as bait to get him into watches.

>>14519158
Either an angry fast food worker with a useless bachelor's in psych or a diluted university freshman who took all AP classes in high school, including psych, believing he is a genius as a result of it.

>>14519169
How old is he? Regardless, Orient / Seiko make excellent first watches

>>14518942
wtf I love shtova now

>>14519175
thirty seven? He's a surprisingly difficlt target considering he has a tungsten carbide wedding ring. Such disregard for tradition in the face of materials engineering would suggest low resistance to the watchpill but it's the fucking opposite he hates watches.

Ok this one is on the 'bay for $100. Only 35mm, which furthers the 50s vibe it gives off. I like it except for the black hands. Cop or not?

>>14519183
>$100
Who fucking cares? that's like two lunches. Get it if you want it.

>>14519164
So are you considering buying another model now?
>39-41mm
Yeah, that's true. It's mostly the size that makes the YM 2 look awkward, I'm not sure why they haven't released a smaller model already.

>>14519186
>american lunches

>>14519182
What does he hate about them? Might wanna try a $10 casio first or something.

>>14519186
Lol I know... My collection is filling up with too much cheap shit though.

>>14519183
For sure. Vintage Seiko is a pretty interesting world and there is a lot to discover.

>>14519190
>What does he hate about them?
I have no fucking idea. He's complicated and a hypocrite. I got him a $500 corporate box metallica ticket instead

>superlative chronometer
>officially certified

>rattrapante

>>14519192
vintage seiko is a pretty deep rabbit hole. I started to go down it but the people who could service the movements had considerably less enthusiasm than I did so I put that adventure on the backburner.

>grande complication

>>14519173
My money is on diluted university freshman with a reddit account and one book by either Sam Harris or Jordan Peterson.

>>14519205
Wow what a small world. I'm the guy who has trouble buying gifts for his brother. I have actually bought him that sword before and he liked it because he's a huge ff7 fan.

>haute horlogerie

>>14519197
Bummer. I got my sister a vintage ladies dive watch and she at least wears it when I visit lol.

>>14519188
I had the two tone white dial yacht master for a period but ended up getting rid of it for the submariner, as I do dive quite often. While I know 100 meters for Rolex is a literal 100 meters and I certainly could have used it as a diver, I felt strangely about diving with a partially precious metal watch. Plus, I prefer a dive watch be a single material just as an extra safety measure to prevent any galvanic corrosion taking place as a result of prolonged exposure to salt water or sweat.

About the YM2 downsize, as much as I wish for it I do not see them doing it. The watches with more complicated movements like the Sky Dweller and YM2 are bound to stay in that slightly too large for decent wearability range which is sad, because either of those watches are pretty beautiful in my personal opinion. But even then, I have no use for GMTs or chronographs anyways

>>14519227
That's the trouble with women isn't it. Does she only ever wear it when you visit.

>gyrotourbillon

>>14519216
>vintage seiko is a pretty deep rabbit hole. I started to go down it but the people who could service the movements had considerably less enthusiasm than I did so I put that adventure on the backburner.

Really? My watch guy is enthusiastic about anything he can charge money for.

>>14519216
That's understandable. It seems like the more affordable vintage watches are a bit higher risk in terms of finding a decent person to service it at a relatively normal price, assuming it isn't a cult classic like the Pogue or the Bullhead chrono, which I will most likely never own but will always be fascinated by.

>réserve de marche

>>14519239
>bullhead chrono
I've been a seiko nerd here for a couple of years now and I swear nobody mentioned the bullhead until a few weeks ago.

>>14519225
Stop buying your brother gifts. It's getting out of hand. Or maybe a Real Doll and then call it quits.

>>14519239
You can still find pogues pretty cheap. Maybe not a gold "true pogue" but the blue ones can be found well under $1k.

>guilloche

>>14518570
like what?

>>14519251
I've heard watchmakers are having problems with servicing them. That is consistent with what I've heard here.

>>14519231
Is there a significant corrosion risk for a watch like the YM though? If you go diving perhaps (I'm not familiar with that), but prolonged exposure to sweat shouldn't be a problem.
>Sky Dweller
I think it looks great. It's a bit niche though.

>>14519254
Best one yet

>manufacture d'horlogerie

>>14519254
I doubt that even meets the length qualification for a katana. That's some kid of hipster fag katana-wakizashi hybrid.

>>14519259
Pogues specifically? Yes I believe there is a plastic part in the chronograph movement that must be replaced if damaged and is very scarce as a replacement these days.

Still a cool fucking watch worth owning even if you have to baby it.

>>14519254
it's so sexy though

>côtes de genève

>>14519269
I asked about them here maybe a year ago and the resident battery niggers said they wouldn't reccomend owning one on account of servicing difficulties.

>>14519264
Because it's a self-aware model doing a cringe pose wearing cringy clothes with a decent photographer

>>14518922
>I can't be the only person that finds the santos hideous, right?
No, it looks like utter shit.

>>14518942
Looks like the same watch to me. Why not just get a Fortis?

>>14519277
Well, yeah. If you buy one with an unknown service history it may show up and be a huge pain in the ass and expensive to fix.

You can buy serviced ones though that have had the movement checked out. And for around $1000 you're getting a cooler watch than you'd get elsewhere for that money.

>zaratsu

>fuyugeshiki

>>14518062

>>14519274
Its just a stamping on a plate in the best of cases. Similar to any electronics circuit board in a $1 chinese shitter, but non functional.

>>14519260
I'm not quite sure if they're specifically better with corrosion resistance as a result of the 914L steel, which is more resistant than 316L, but that's a chance I'd be quite afraid to take. Galvanic corrosion can take place any time you have two separate metals together in an ionized solution. So sweat is pretty unlikely, but too much salt water could potentially ruin it. I've known a mad woman who would go on dives in her 31mm 2 tone datejust 68273 and never had an issue before though, so it's most likely me just being overly cautious. Hers is still in great condition and works just as well as it did when she got it

>>14519318
>Its just a stamping on a plate in the best of cases. Similar to any electronics circuit board in a $1 chinese shitter, but non functional.

It's actually carved with a rose engine lathe. Obviously it's "non-functional" except for being aesthetically pleasing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVE5e6Gj0ZM

>yasuri-me

>>14519027
that vostok is awesome. I love the color. W2c?

>tsuiki

Anyone have experience purchasing off of chrono24? Would I have to pay import duties on a big purchase? US importing from Japan.

>>14519362
Meranom, official vendor of the vostok watch factory. Also sells crowns, bezels, casebacks, etc if you're into modding

When did Omega start stealing design elements from TAG Heuer?

>>14519395
The most recent Seamaster 300m really does feel like 90s Tag. I like it but the hands are way too short, the bezel is hideous, and the bracelet looks like something taken from a Tag shitter.

>>14519395
both trash brands so who cares?

>>14519362
Ebay is where most of us got it, and as >>14519383 said Dimitri is nice guy overall and is the main source of custom Vostoks. Mine is basically a 670059 with a custom bezel that rarely if ever comes to market.

How pathetic is it to buy a luxury watch if you can only afford one luxury watch in your life? Won't that make you a target of ridicule like Akaky's coat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Overcoat

If you don't have a lifestyle where you can afford a collection of 5-6 luxury watches with no issue, should you ever even get that single one? I don't think so, I think it's better to stay in the affordable bracket to avoid looking like a poor fool.

>>14519395
speedy date is so fucking ugly

>>14519482
But what if you can afford many but want to keep your life neat?

>>14519103
>Seiko

>>14519482
This threas is full of Akakys... they would have a luxury item and not being able to enjoy it, just they treasure the thing because its too valuable for them; resulting in the item owning the person.

Buy things you can use, enjoy and replace easily kids.

>>14519482
If you can't afford a handful of luxury watches, fix your life first.

>>14518101

for me its LOBINNI

>>14518304

this is my goal watch right now. it ticks every box for me.

the contrarian's choice.

>>14519728
Actually quite an interesting piece.

>>14519728
more like the retards choice
yuck. sinns are not nice time pieces.

>>14519290
Yeah, you do that. Save some money.

The "why not sell everything and buy a real watch" collection.

>>14519762
Nice collection, would rob

>>14519762
>indestructible digital beater
>ultra minimalist pilot watch
>throwback field watch

I'd say you have a pretty decent tool watch collection there

redpill me on watches with a compass

>>14519791
1. You'll never use it on an everyday watch
2. Your smartphone has GPS

>>14519762
the sinn pilot and hamilton field watch seem a bit redundant, i'd get rid of one of them and get a watch with a little more character, or at least a dial that isn't black

>>14519762
Id on the left Sinn? 856 ?

>>14519791
Useless if you are not an operator operating operationally.

>>14519380
Yes, it might be cheaper just flying there

>>14519762
sell the chooda and the swatch and buy another german watch

>>14519889
operators use protreks

Is it true that the Speedmaster has plastic hands?

>german design
>peak industrial design company
>minimalist as fuck simple quartz
STILL can't align the fucking seconds hands to the indicies.

I fucking hate Braun. These watches aren't cheap and they couldn't be bothered to make sure the seconds hand aligns to their own fucking designed indicie markers. I hate quartz watches for this reason alone. Are there any quartz manufacturers who are anal as me about the seconds aligning properly?

>>14519971
My $20 casio doesn't have this problem

>>14519971
>indicie

that's not a word.

>>14519791
Love it, any modern versions, especially something like a digital watch plus analog magnetic compass? Would buy

Rate my collection.

>>14519986
>sqwaleeey
collection ruined

>>14519986
Would keep the SKX, the Bambino and the Casio.

>>14519990
kek

>>14519986
reddit

>>14519971

nothing German about Braun anymore

>>14519909
With a compass.

>>14519971
Doesnt happen to my quartz Seikos, Citizens, Cartier or Omega.

>>14519986
Sell half of that and get a decent watch in the 2k range, most of those are SHITTERS

>>14519971
you can fix this by waiting until seconds points to zero and than manually adjust the minute hand.

>>14518942
>why not get something a bit better
>it only costs 5x as much

fagatron

>>14520017
holy shit I'm retarded

the second hand must point to 12 of course

>>14520017
That won't align his seconds hand

>>14519971
I've always loved the design of that watch, but the reviews kept me away. It's not like there are a million complications or anything. They had ONE job.

>>14519986
sell everything except the Casio Royale and use the money to get a BB58.

>>14519762
Actually really into this collection. My dream watch collection is Explorer I + GW5000, so Black Bay 36 + 5610 is pretty close.

Is that the Black Bay 36? How do you like it?

How do I go about cleaning a superengineer-type bracelet? Starting to collect a bit of black crud.
Pic rel, but not mine.

>>14520082
Based

t. sinnposter

>>14520082
Is alligator leather better than cow leather?

new rolex i bought, thoughts?

>>14520168
/fit

>>14520168
Everyone has a sub. Yawn.

>>14520173
tough but fair

Evening Gents. Finally pulled the trigger on it, but it'll be a while until it's delivered. Excited about it. That is all. Don't know if anyone else has one, but the black one with full bracelet seems to be difficult to find.

>>14520217
sorry for your loss

>>14520258
How so?

>>14520274
d8gn85y

>>14520126

Alligator is prized even by respectable traditional brands that use leather, like Crockett&Jones. Cordovan (horse membrane) is great too.

Not a huge fan of solar/kinetic/thermal powered movements t.bh
Give me a simple and reliable battery cell any day

Yema!

>>14519762
finally collection poster and not a faggot

>>14519986
absolute faggot collection

>>14520284
What does that mean?

>>14520323
Well, I have a few mechanicals, and I've always wanted an ecodrive. So I went with the one I've always wanted since I saw it over a decade ago. Considering that ecodrives have appeared to last as long as they've been promised...well, I don't see a reason not to.

>>14520330
Like a small turd

>>14519762
>Hamilton
>Turdor
>Sin
Cringe.

>>14520077
Get one of those cheap ultrasonic parts cleaners from Harbor Freight or whatever. They work wonders on stuff like watch straps and they're also really useful if you do any other kind of /diy/ or /o/ shit. Just make sure to take the bracelet off and do it by itself, ultrasonic cleaners can fuck up mechanical watches. (Or any watch, according to some people, supposedly the ultrasonic action can get water past the seals.)

One of the compromises I had to deal with was the fact that the North American Nighthawks in black are simply not available; I'd guess they stopped producing them sometime in the 2014s or so. So, I had to settle for the Japanese version, which has no 'Nighthawk' name on it, and it has hour marker indices that are not full lume but 3/4 reflective metal and a lume square at the end. I would have liked the full lume, but these things happen.

Anyone else have an ecodrive? Good experiences? Bad experiences? As I've only heard excellent things, I'd be curious to hear some bad experiences....

>>14519919
>Is it true that the Speedmaster has plastic hands?
?

>>14520396
Sorry, one clarification; they do make the black 'head' of the watch, but they don't make the black band anymore; they've replaced it with a strange band that is similar to the ones we used to see on Skagen watches. I know you could buy the official wristband and just attach it, but I don't want to spend much just to modify the watch. So, there we are...lol

Wow, it's quiet tonight...is everyone watching the debate?

>>14520217
Couldn't afford the other half?

>>14520330
at least cut that stupid clip off at 3'oclock

>>14520409
Clarify; 'the other half'?

>>14520352
Why is everyone commenting on this as if it's mine? It's clearly from watchuseek, look at the filename.

>>14520418
sell all of these and buy something NICE!

On a different note. I'm making some chicken tenders right now, and I realized that in my life, the only time I use the chrono function is to time oven pizzas, chicken stuff, roasts, etc. I don't use it to time distances in cars, or laps ran, or etc.

Do any of you guys use your chronographs for anything other than cooking?

Thoughts, /wt/?

>>14520486
I'd never buy it for myself, but it looks like a good modern update on a kind of flieger that is easy to read when you don't have time to look. What kind of movement does it use? Are the numerals lumed? Have you tried on one?

>>14518362
Are you seriously incapable of remembering the date?

>>14519762
Those two Sinn don't have any of the trademark Sinn Tech, it's such a waste. I have to agree the style of the 104 is great but why not an EZM something?.

>>14520487
Which ref is this, does it have the autism window, and how much does it cost?

>>14520487
It uses a Sellita SW-200, regulated in 6 position to +/-5 seconds/day.
Unfortunately, the hands are the only lumed part.
And even more unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to try one on. It looks like it may be super comfy though.

>>14520499
It's the holy grail, no, and it's about 25,000 (higher for one with original parts) starting. How old are you girls? Where the hell is everyone?

>>14520508
>it's about 25,000 (higher for one with original parts) starting.
Jesus Christ, why.

>>14520507
Well, there's nothing wrong with Sellita movements (2nd largest manufacturer in Switzerland to ETA); they're fine. Yeah, it is sad that the hands are the only lumed part...it would make more sense to at least have them lume the 12 or even the 12 and 6 or something on the face.

It'll certainly be unusual; I'd assume you'd be the only one 'in the office' to have one. If exclusivity is important, then perhaps it would be an interesting purchase.

In terms of the casing, the face and all of that, it certainly is unusual (not in a bad way, more in an 'original' way). Perhaps try one on and then you'll at least know. I've mentioned it before in previous threads, but the bottom line is that you really don't know how a watch looks until you put it on.

>>14520520
Because it's probably the rarest Speedmaster ever put into production and uses the Lemania 5100 movement, which is considered one of the best movements ever to be produced in its configuration and complications.

Oh, and it's beautiful.

gonna buy a 90s Russian Raketa watch similar to pic related. Anybody ever had any experience with one?

>>14520523
>you really don't know how a watch looks until you put it on
That's the rub with these microbrand watches, it's hard to come across a chance to try them on if you don't live near the brand, or in New York or LA.

>>14520532
Yeah, it's a risk. I bought the Seagull 1963 without trying it on, just because I wanted a column-wheel manual wind chronograph. At first, it looked awful on my wrist, but then I took it off the damn nato strap it came with and put it on a leather band and now it's fine.

That being said, if the Vero is less than 500$, then it's a risk you can take. If it's more, then I'd say the next time you take a vacation to a big city, search for a dealer and call them to make sure they have one you can try on before you go.

Others have heard me a few threads back, but a few months ago I tried on a JLC Reverso for the first time, as I had intentions to finally buy one. When I tried it on in the boutique, along with a few different iterations of it, I really hated how it looked on my wrist, and more importantly, it felt very light and 'cheap'. I hated it. And I'm saddened by that because it looks so damn good on film, and it's an iconic design. But it just looked awful on my wrist, so I decided against it.

Such is life. Sometimes when you try on a watch, it sings to you (the Speedy does that to me). Sometimes you try it on, and there's nothing.

>>14520526
Why aren't they making new ones though? The dial design is really good.

>>14520556
It was only made for two years (1986-7); it didn't sell well, and they made 3 or 4 different cases. The rarest one is in the Speedmaster traditional case, which is deeper but that's about it. The other iterations are arguably less elegant, but then again in the 80's there was a lot of experimentation in the aesthetic direction for Omega.

For a long time it was under the radar until Chuck Maddox dubbed it the Holy Grail simply because he was looking for one and couldn't find it. The name has stuck, but the beauty is undeniable.

>>14520482
laundry is all I use it for

>>14520526
I think the Sinn 144 looks better

>>14520585
Thanks...yeah, sometimes I use it for drying as well.

>>14520589
The Sinn is a different watch entirely. the Grail has the 24 hour complication, as well as the chronograph minutes and seconds are stacked on top of the normal running minutes and hours. The Sinn is fine, but it's not the grail.

>>14520552
I always thought those looked pretty bad on natos, the leather is a yuge upgrade

>>14519971
The quartz sbbn tuna is pretty based in that regard. Even has a mechanism to stop the second hand dead on the market without any jiggling. The downside? It's huge and kind of ugly. I like it tho

>>14520396
I'm wearing one right now. Got this Navihawk as a gift a few years back and never liked it much, tried a bunch of different straps trying to make myself like it more but hadn't had much luck. Found this navy blue w/ black hardware Zulu the other day and I think it works pretty well, pilot watch on a NATO/Zulu is kind of unorthodox but somehow it makes the watch wear a bit smaller and that makes me like it a lot more. (Photo makes it look huge but it's the wide angle lens combined with being a thick-ass watch, IRL the lugs only span about 2/3 of the width of my wrist.)

Aside from aesthetics, though, the watch has been great. It's awesome for travel because of how quick it is to switch time zones, and it's got a ton of functionality packed in. I just wish it weren't so busy, and if I were buying a Navihawk myself I wouldn't go for a black one, maybe I'd get the Blue Angels model.

>>14520611
The problem with the Nato is that it increases the height of the watch off the wrist, which is not good considering the watch is already deep and it's not even 40mm, which means it's like wearing a cough losange on your wrist.

My Seamaster is flatter than this, but in some sense that's part of the 60's charm; the domed plastic crystal distorts the light enough like a Speedy, the small dimensions call back to the time when watches were small and that was a sign of great engineering, etc. So, I enjoy it a lot, even though it's very rough (the hands are not finished in any serious way, the alignment of a few of the markers on the minute counter are slightly off, etc.).

>>14520629
Funny, I remember liking yours because it was the most complicated version that was out at the time. I was into super-busy watches back then, and I'd intended to get a Breitling Cosmonaut as my second 'real' watch. That idea faded away when I saw how much more complicated and fun quartz watches could be, and how I could get them for far less.

Regarding the Nighthawk though; the Blue Angels model is cool, no doubt, and I've tried it on in person and it looks okay. What drove me to the black one is that I first saw it in an airport boutique over a decade ago, fell in love with it at first sight, tried it on, but then realized that I couldn't afford it then. It stuck with me; the 'military' look in every angle, the black almost-pvc coating, the callbacks to the Stealth Fighter, all of it. I never forgot it, and for years I kept on saying, 'one day I'll just order it'.

I decided last week to look just for shits and giggles, only to find that they're extremely rare on the metal bracelet, and the North American versions don't exist except on the secondary market. So I settled for the Japanese one, which is slightly different in detailing, but at least it's brand new. I'm waiting for it (unpatiently, I might add)...shipping is always very slow.

>>14520629
A few other thoughts. I wanted the Nighthawk for the easy time changes, the easy legibility, the 'indestructibility', and so forth. All my watches save the Seamaster are somewhat fragile; only the Seamaster goes diving with me, but the others will never see-water (get it?). So, I wanted a digital that I could wear for whatever, without worrying about dropping it, bumping it into things, etc.

I like yours, both on the strap but also on the bracelet; these kinds of watches are pretty much 'military' no matter what, the only problem is that (at least with the Nighthawk) it has absurdly small lugs, so if you want to attach a leather strap it has to be accommodating to that.

Thanks for sharing man.

>>14520482
It’s quite useful in a lab setting. I use mine frequently for chemistry.

>>14520661
Cool. Are you ever worried about chemicals splashing on your watch by accident, or is it under the glove nearly all the time? Also, don't they have proper clocks with timers in labs? <please forgive, never worked in a lab before>

I have this Skagen and it goes well with most outfits.

>>14520629
What are some other cool watches like that with digital shit on them but that look maybe a bit more serious and less like a kid's watch?

>>14520683
Astron

Does someone make shock/damage resistant watches like G-Shock that don't look like Tacticool Ass?

>>14520712
>Astron
>digital shit on them
???

>>14520717
DW5600E

>>14520622
I really want one of these.

>>14520664
>Are you ever worried about chemicals splashing on your watch by accident, or is it under the glove nearly all the time?
Under a lab coat almost all the time.
>Also, don't they have proper clocks with timers in labs?
Some do, some don’t. I know some labs give out little handheld digital clock type things for timing certain reactions. I’m in grad school rather than a “formal” lab setting so it’s probably a little more informal.

>>14520717
yeah, g-shock you dumb fuck, they make 19 billion watches, dig for more then the first 20 you see you little nigger baby

>>14520077

Ultrasonic like the other guy said, or take the bracelet off and have a jeweler steam it.

So what's this talk going around that the Swiss luxury market might collapse? If any even near collapse happens, and pieces going on sale would be snapped up even at minor discounts, so I can't see how the market is anything but self-sustaining now other than for ultraluxury.

>>14520717
Marathon gpq/gpm
Citizen promaster tough

Holly shit! Get in here, guys!
https://youtu.be/XoBdu5iH57U

>>14519762

The thing about entry level shit, especially Sinn and Tudor, is they're an advanced coping mechanisms to avoid the truth: you're a loser and everything that went wrong in your life is your own fault. you could have gotten everything you wanted, including a Rolex, if you tried a little harder. You're not even catastrophically bad in a way that might give you some fame, no, you're just mundane, boring, average, standard. There's nothing that makes you special and nothing that makes you worth being loved. Whether you're an "alpha minus" going through $1000-$2000 watches by the dozens or a shitter hoarder seething at people who buy mechanical watches, you're the same: a fuckup; not due to some great external factor like kikes, niggers or drumpf, nor due to some internal plight like having acne or depression or tfw to intelegent to socialize. There's a dozen steps you could take right this instant to lead you to the life you claim to want, but the truth is the life you really want is the one you already have, wallowing in mediocrity and making sarcastic quips at anyone who shines a light on your inconsistencies. Thousands of high quality timepieces are out there, and all it would take for you to get one is the right amount of dominance, the right amount of presence and the right amount of stability. All of you have it in you. But here you are, saying "fuck that shit I'll just get a Tudor lmao", as if living life was an effort and as if being a slob was any better. cringe t b h

I was dreaming I had found a rusty dial Tisell Cellini quartz with a LEXROLEXRO rehaut on irish eBay, and I woke up to my wife spooning me. I was little spoon.

>>14519986
It hurts my brain watching these assholes spend all that money when they can just buy one good watch, but no, they have to buy all the shitters so they can to fill their shitty box...disgusting, get a life.

redpill me on this watch . why shouldn't I buy it?

>>14520933

It's alright, buddy. We all go through insecure patches in our lives. What you have to 'member is that all of these gauges of performance are completely arbitrary. Lusting after fine horology is exactly the same as lusting after some tulips, the perception of value is artificial. We don't get to be alpha because we get a Rolex, we get the artificial sensation of being an alpha if we get a Rolex.

Now, you can spend your whole life worrying about your status like Akaky. But you have to realize that what passes by, while you try to level up to imaginary people's imaginary standards, is life itself. You'll eventually wake up, old and bitter, because status symbols are not the meat and potatoes of actual happiness. Trust yourself.

>>14520989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHetRTOD1Q
When I look into my watch box
it’s always with a sense of shame
I’ve always been the one to blame
For everything I long to buy
no matter when or where or why
has one thing in common, ayy
It’s a, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a Sinn It’s a Sinn

>>14521001
>status symbols are not the meat and potatoes of actual happiness
They literally are though, it's just that you have to have MORE of them than the usual poorfag luxury watch buyer who only buys one sub-Rolex watch.

>>14520661
I allways avoided that like the plague, as if I remember correctly one of the few things that fuck up the aluminium spinell is strong acids. Just doesnt seem worth it that the guy next to you can be careless and ruin your favorite watch...

>>14520989

It's a mass produced ETA in a fugly german tegimented steel case, with a fugly dial and fugly hands. It's the epitome of paying real watch money for an ETA shitter.

Just kidding. It's the perfect tool watch for when you have the check the time while hammering rivets into U-Boats in 1941.

>>14521004
No, you stupid twink. Happiness comes from some other place.

Have you seen the Michael Jordan crying meme? That's the path of eternal competition. Happiness comes from elsewhere.

>>14521013
Alright, give me your money then, it will make me happy, and you obviously don't need it since your happiness comes from elsewhere.

>>14521004
>They literally are though
This is your mind on late capalalism

>>14520933
How is Sinn entry level when no one even knows what it is? You don't buy a Sinn for the same reasons you buy a rolex, or at least I didn't. I wanted a mechanical watch that I could abuse the hell out of without concern or guilty, and that's just what I got.

>>14520082

>>14520217
"What time is it anon?"
"Fuck knows"

Who else is living the shock life tonight?

>>14521028
>How is Sinn entry level when no one even knows what it is?
You're right, it's even worse, yet it costs as much as a real entry level watch or more (some models are even more expensive than a Speedy).

>>14521028

Just because it's lesser known to normies doesn't mean it can't be an entry level shitter. The biggest joke is reddit faggots convincing themselves that they're in some kind of secret club buying that Sinn garbage.

>>14521091
I fail to understand what any "entry level" watch offers that the typical Sinn doesn't. Perhaps it's my mistake for assuming watches are anything other than status symbols to modern people. It was only ever the engineering that interested me in them.

>>14521097
>convincing themselves that they're in some kind of secret club
They may be right, they're just retarded if they think that is good or admirable in and of itself.

>>14518869
buy the san martin one

>>14520683
Look up casio lineage watches. I recently bought an LCW-M100 and I'm enjoying it a lot.

>>14521104
Real entry level watches offer in-house movements, heritage, brand recognition and resale value.

>>14520933
I'm waiting for the release of the polar explorer 2 with ceramic beezel

>>14521110
So entirely facets of status. Nothing which concerns me then. Proceed then, more power to watch snobs.

>>14521114
Exactly. It's just that both the value of a Sinn and an "entry" watch are imaginary. If you want a tool watch, you get a G-Shock. If you want a sturdy german mechanical, it's because you like imaginary status things.

There are only two real things in this discussion, which are the toolyness of a G-Shock, and the resale value of a Rolex. And that's why everything else is a "shitter". It's marketing, a mental image, nothing.

>>14521139
On that note, I disagree. If you want a tool watch, AND you want something mechanical - not for status but for novelty - you get a Sinn or something similar. The tool watch concept is pure novelty regardless in the modern age. It's just down to what brand of novelty you want.

>>14521148
The tool watch convept is not pure novelty. If you work or exercise in an environment where you need to glance at the time without reaching for your phone, you need a watch. If you work or exercise in hazardous conditions, you need a sturdy watch.

What is the scenario for a sturdy mechanical watch? Working or exercising in hazardous conditions during a global battery shortage? Or if an asteroid hits and the debris covers the sun, so that solar is no longer an option. Until then your tegimented Sinn is just a waste of money.

>>14520642
>>14520649
Yeah, I get where you're coming from with the black one and drooling over it before you could afford one. I was the same way with these Citizens in general, I too have memories of lusting after them in airport duty free shops long before I could afford one. Unfortunately a big black complicated watch doesn't really suit the way I dress or my adult taste in watches, but it's not bad for just bumming around and it's definitely nice having a zero-maintenance fuckaround watch that won't run down if I don't wear it for a few days yet also never needs a battery or anything.

>>14520683
The most prominent ones would probably be the Breitling Aerospace and the Omega X-33.

Whats a good 80s style watch. Not one from the 80s per say but something that would fit with an 80s style. Digital or analog no matter. The strap can be anything. Casio is pretty overdone in my age group.

>>14521172
*per se

>>14520482
>Keeping the shit-tier paper stock NATO
Mate, can you buy yourself a decent leather strap already?

do u like my FOLEX

>>14521216
nice skirt

>>14521216
>tfw exposed my co-worker for his Folex
>he left the job a couple of weeks later

Best feel.

>>14521216
Man all cushioned straps except alligator are ugly as hell. What is that, cream canvas? Yuck

>>14521172
Swatch

>>14521231
Was it a sub?

Watchmurderer here. One of the uppity customers made one of the girls cry. Details are unfolding right now. Sounds like some Karen wanted the book of complaints over her "tone" or some shit.

Fucking scumbag normies.

>>14521104
>I fail to understand what any "entry level" watch offers that the typical Sinn doesn't.
Brand recognition, what else?

what watch is best to eat a girl ass out??

>>14521263
Based.

>>14521254
It was a PVD black Subbie with hollow endlinks and a disgusting black and red dial with obviously fake diamonds indices. It was absolute garbage. If it's a decent stock fake that's one thing (if you can rock out a fake, then you're better than me). but I hate shitty overdone fakes.

He also claimed he spent AU$25k on it. Yeah sure mate.

>>14521257
So now, since I'm not a COMPLETE sociopath their nervousness sticks on me, and I can't really work on fine shit like movements for a while. So now I'm doing bracelets and crystals and whatnot.

Also new strap for this Elnix. I don't know yet if I'm keeping it or not.

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/3offnagoya-rolex66946516cal1215ss--id11437994.htm

Why not just buy a vintage Rolex for a dress watch? They look much better than any modern one and they're 10 times cheaper.

Does anyone have AE3000W?
I'm thinking about replacing my AE1200 with it since it should be a 2016 model and I hope it's timezones and map are more up to date. A lot of data on AE1200 is fucked up because of recent changes in timezones and DST all over the world.

>>14521266
DW

>>14521312
>because of recent changes in timezones and DST all over the world.
What, what happened?

>>14521321
About 10 years happened.
Quite a bit of countries and territories abandoned or started using DST. Some transited to different time zones.
Casio just never updated their old watches even if they're new stock.

>>14521326
These are countries that you shouldn't be in the first place, so who cares anyway?

>is on a date
>checks the time

>>14521338
Thanks to the US, there are "feet" ratings on all divers except Seiko's

>>14521286
That was painful to read

>>14518277
that's actually kind of cool

>>14520901
I absolutely hate that fucking Jew dealer in Michael's actual vid. He's so slimy and his information is so incorrect too (hurr this watch was sold for 10 when it came out and now it's 15, what is inflation? durr).

>>14519147
You should really listen to the persons advice. Also that watch you linked has the 6r15 which is a garbage movement with a huge host of issues from c balance problems to outright movement failures. Just pick up a turtle or an skx if you want something cheaper.

>>14518062
New thread:

>>14521473
>>14521473
>>14521473

>>14521465
>6r15
>garbage movement

lolwut? Yes, because the SARB033 has such a poor record.

>>14521004
oink oink good piggy. keep spending your money

>>14521556
you see, adults have these things called jobs. They suck and are depressing and sometimes you have to treat yourself with nice things to cope

>>14519762
good taste other than the tudor

get rid of the hamilton and the tudor theyre redundant

ID on this puck?