/fa/ - Fashion

Anyone here own the Indys? Really thinking they'll be my next boot

>>14517988
>moc toe
absolutely disgusting I will never understand this

>>14518028
Based fucking retard bro.
Indys aren't moc toe. They're faux moc just for decoration. It's their signature detail.

Actual moc toes are pic related and they're hideous, and reddit loves them so that's all I'm going to say about that

Thread died as I posted these so here they are again enjoy.

>>14518039
Can you tell us about sizing? Are you from the UK and got sized in person or nah?
I want the Islays as well as some oxfords but I'm scared about the sizing.

>>14518040
These are 12E. Definitely roomy but I have a long, wide foot. They are voluminous as well, as in there is some height to the last. I wear 12 in Iron Rangers as well, for reference. 13 in most sneakers.

>>14518047
So you went a full size down for your rangers but I went a half size down. Doesn't make me feel any better.
And when you say 12E, is that UK or US sizing?

Thinking about getting Blundstones. I like the toe on the dress version but I’m I better off just getting the classic ones?

>>14518039
very nice, kinda jelly my dood

>>14518039
Also, got any more pics. Would love to see some different angles of these.

>>14518052
I don't know anything about Blnundestones, sorry. Just curious what's more Australian, them or RM Williams?

>>14518035
Literally the only difference looks wise aside from having chukka soles is how taught the leather is when it was stitched. I know the boot you posted isnt a literal moc but why the fuck is it stitched to look like one

>>14518050
12E UK sizing. I could possibly have sized down a half size for these, but I need the width and length. The confusing thing is how much space you have above your foot, but I presume it's to make room for thicker socks. I wear orthotic inserts in my IRs so I could prob get away with a half size smaller in those too. I've made many errors purchasing footwear online over the years so I understand your position. Try sending C&J an email, they've been quite helpful in my experience.

>14517889
anyone

>>14518050
E sizing is US. E is not that wide, EE is considered wide, EEE is wider and EEEE is the widest

>>14517889
anyone

>>14518060
Not sure if you're pretending to be retarded or not.
On actual moc toes, the moc toe is integral to its structure. They are typically meant for actual work as the crepe sole is comfortable enough for lineman and warehouse workers, etc. It's ironic since basedboys who have never worked a day outside in their lives seem to love them.
The Indy boots have that double row of stitching just for decoration, that's all. It's their signature detail and something immediately recognizable. It serves no purpose, it's all aesthetics. If you don't like it, don't wear it.

>>14518054
Going to bed now but I'll try for some more pics tomorrow. Would be nice to get an outdoor shot if I get a chance. Too hot to wear these during the day here right now lol

>>14518074
Not my style but if it fits your look and the price is right I say absolutely go for it.

>>14518076
Looking forward to it. Later, bro.

>>14517988
Yes. Comfy af.

>>14518075
>crepe sole
>for industrial line work

Wtf r u on about? True crepe soles are the mos fragile sole there is. If you mean synthetic RUBBERIZED crepe soles then that’s different but those are not true crepes

>>14518039
>>14518040
>>14518050

I’m an 11.5E on a brannock with medium weight wool socks. My Islays are 11.5UK and fit perfectly with both medium and heavy wool socks.

>>14518102
Muh nigga. Are those the 403s or 405s? I like that color and the darker welt.
Fuck it, it's official. The Indys are gonna be my next boot. I'll buy them in about 2 months when I save up some extra cash

>>14518117
Meh, I don't wear those boots or give a shit about them. They could have whatever sole they want and I wouldn't know or care.

>>14517988
Don't own them. I've heard e-rumors that their quality isn't what it used to be though. Do some research into it before buying a pair.

>>14518163
I've done so much research I could write a book on them.
Basically, it comes down to their CXL. It's hit or miss. I'd say almost half of reviews I've seen for it have gotten loose grain. But I'm looking more at their calfskin boots so that shouldn't be an issue as much. As for QC, it's no better than any other brand nowadays, most brands have gotten worse, not better.

>>14518141
405s. They’re bright orange when you get them but they’ll darken. I’ve been putting Medium brown saphir on them.

>>14518163
Quality is fine if you go through a decent retailer with a good rep as a second line of qc.

>>14518214
And those are made of calf, right?
Seeing CXL Indys without loose grain is almost the exception, and that's pretty sad actually. Calf has it's own care considerations, but it's not a big deal.
How are the NSTs? I'm into them, too

What kind of jeans do you guys wear with your boots?
Right now I only have skinny jeans and they feel clownish with my IR so im looking for some new ones

>>14518255
I wear slim fit jeans with all my boots and I think it's fine. Or I wear chinos.

>>14518059
Blundstones are shit made in china and have been for awhile

RMs are nice and have the price to match, however every undergrad bachelor of commerce froths them so beware

>>14518255
Depends on the color and material. Black jeans look best closer to form fitting as do chinos, however grey or olive look better with room in the thigh with a taper. In my opinion blue jeans also look better in that fit but its also my opinion that a more casual or cap toed boot should never be covered by pant legs, instead pinrolled to exacerbate a casual look. If you're tucking a button up into black jeans or slacks I would suggest leaving them unrolled however, you're leaning more toward a formal look while still having casual elements. I love rolled clothing, whether its sleeves or pant legs. It shows that you're not taking yourself too seriously nor are you attending a job interview.

are these a good buy?

>>14518269
Difficult color to coordinate, hope you have a number of other boots for variety

>>14518240
Yeah the 405s are calf. The NSTs on the trubalance last are basically the indy boot with a hand stitched toe. Definitely more polarizing than the standard moc toe and my preferred make-up however I still have 2 new indy make-ups on preorder. One in blue suede and the other in reverse hunting green chamois.

>>14518278
these would be my first pair. was planning to wear them with blue jeans, khaki pants, grey pants. would that look off?

>>14518127
11.5 UK would make your feet approximately 11.875 inches long. As per King Edward II's feet which were 36 barelycorns long, 36 barleycorns = exactly 1 foot = 12 Inches. Each UK size is .3333 inches longer than the next. A true size 11 UK foot will be 11.6666 inches. A true 10 UK would be 11.333333 inches. etc.

>>14518191
If you you want well-made high quality boots, buy Solovair, they are made entirely in England, in the same single factory, and thus their QC will always be good/.

These look so fucking fresh holy shit, just discovered Hiro

>>14518296
You can't bullshit a bullshitter.
I wouldn't wear Solovair even if you paid me to.

>>14518282
It would only look good with a medium to light blue jean and perhaps a black jean but beige would be better with the latter. These would not work with khaki in my opinion. I'd suggest a brown boot to start out. Some dont appreciate the color but it has more of a generalist approach that a black boot lacks. From brown you're free to switch it up with black or the boots in question however you're recycling your options with less variety than you had. To me personally chelsea and jodphur in suede is an accoutrement to a select few outfits in a wardrobe.

If you're that interested in the look of a chelsea boot and aren't a fan of something more simple I'd suggest a leather chelsea although they're far more common in black.

>>14518315
I see. I appreciate the advice, but something about this particular color and boot draws me in, whereas a leather or black chelsea does not. I like how the suede catches the eye. I would be willing to just wear blue and black jeans with them. Do they not go with khaki because they're too close in color?

>>14518311
That's your problem. You are a bullshiter, and not a Man of Logic. You bitch about QC but yet you shit on Solovairs. Literally entirely made and QC'd in a 1st World country, but because they are at a lower price point, you shit on them like they are Cheap Chinese made crap from Vietnam.

Have you even looked at their incredibly thorough and detailed Last sizing system? No one who actually takes boots seriously would ever shit on a company like Solovair. you just are either a contrarian or heavily autistic and ignorant.

Can somebody explain to me what Goodyear welting and handwelting are and which is better

>>14518267
Yeah I agree with that. Boots with pants covering up most of the boot looks really sloppy and dad-ish

I love boots but where do you people live to wear them at this time of year? It's hot as balls here.

>>14518366
Goodyear welting means glueing a strip on canvas or whatever to the insole and stitching the welt to the strip through the upper and insole. They use a machine to do this. The glue can come apart or the strip fails and that's the biggest downside to GYWing.
Handwelting is very similar only instead of the canvas or whatever strip, they use extra thick insoles and literally carve away to make a holdfast through which they hand sew the welt through the upper and insole. This is all done by hand and because they carve out the holdfast there's no chance of it failing. It also allows for more resoles.
For White's, yes they handwelt their boots but it's not that simple. They do a rolled welt, similar to a Norwegian welt and I'm honestly not completely positive what it is. Looks like a mix of stitchdown and a welt.
But as to which is better, probably handwelting as there's no chance of the inner strip coming apart or the glue failing as they literally carve out the holdfast and it's part of the actual insole

>>14518358
You can say all you want about Docs or Solovair and nothing will change the fact that they make ugly boots marketed towards teenagers, lesbians and neo-nazis. They could be handmade by the finest artisans on the planet of the highest quality materials and that won't change the fact that they're simply ugly, childish looking boots that people won't take you seriously wearing.

>>14518383
I usually don't wear mine much in the summer, it's simply too hot to wear boots in 100F weather.
Sometimes I do just to do it. I suffer through the heat because I just love boots so much.
So naturally, my boots get the most wear during the fall and winter which is typically when I buy my usual one pair a year of boots.

Can anyone give me a rec for a side-zip boot similar to these Haider Ackermann ones. Preferably not $500+

>>14518468
Just to clarify, GYWing doesn't stitch the welt to the insole, they stitch it through the upper to the canvas strip.
You know what I meant, I'm drinking and typing is hard

>>14518366
>>14518468
https://www.styleforum.net/threads/handwelted-vs-goodyear-welted-shoes.52
This has your answer and lots of good info. And, like 4chan, it starts with some retard spewing wrong info and getting BTFO for it. The difference between GYW and HW is definitely not the use of a machine. They're both different processes with different results.

>>14518496
Story et fall maybe?

>>14518383
1. Don't be a fatass
2. Don't wear thick shirts, wear tanks, silk, linen, unbutton dress shirt
3. Wear thin socks
4. stay in the shade
5. Wear your boots un-laced or un-zipped.
6. Go commando or silk underwear

>>14518474
>seething credditor
Le Post

i hope my new boots will be posted today

>>14518646
what boots

>>14518527
Good joke really made me laugh

y'all be buying skintight basedboy boots as if, prolly conducive to prevailing age on 4chun
anyone here ever put their foot in a mil spec danner? they any good? been thinkin bout the greenish waterproof one, for the winter season, nobody cleans shit for snow around here

>>14518282
i have a pair of RMs in black leather. they are amazing and my favorite clothing buy ever. i want to wear them everyday but sometimes you just can't. if i were you and getting a first pair i would either get the traditional brown leather, or the traditional brown suede (i think its called chocolate suede? idk they are the darker ones than what you posted). very comfortable boots. not too hot for the feet because the nylon sides. good luck.

>>14518714
milsurp ex ambassadors chelseas that need a bit of repair work but are silly cheap, and i got the dispatch email an hour or so ago while i was in the shower

>>14518468
If you're referring to gemming then this almost never fails. The nonsense about that online was just an extremely successful troll.

>want to make bewts
>don't want to be a regard that drops hundreds on equipment and materials then can't make shit
>don't even know if people would pay for handmade shoes

my dreams are memes

>>14519136
join a company, be passionate and offer to work for free for a bit of experience. in the mean time, become a cobbler.

>>14519036
>gemming
That's the word I was looking for. Handwelted boots don't have that

After the discussion of loose grain and it prevalence with CXL leather, I found this video of a pair of White's MPs getting made that shows the clicking process for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=NJpv5OvGKJk
You can see the guy checking the quality of the hide and the thickness. Leather that will most likely develop loose grain feels thinner and softer and stretches a lot. A clicker can typically feel that on the hide and know not to use that part.
Brands like Alden and Wolverine who are notorious for their terrible CXL will simply use all of the hide to save money. If they can cut a pattern out of a piece they'll do it, regardless of if it should be made into a boot or not.

>>14519155
>>14519136
One of my dreams is to make my own boots and shoes. Not for a living or anything, just as a hobby and something fun for me and friends I could make shoes for.
I spend so much time on youtube and forums watching shoes get made and all the processes, I learned how to sew recently and I've been doing research on different leathers and their properties.
My biggest thing right now is I simply don't have the tools.

>>14517984
Reach for the sky

>>14519513
if youve a passion for it, make it happen

>>14519513
Start with simple. Cut out some soles out of leather or thin rubber (scissors). Cut out some pieces of fabric or leather for a moccasin-like construction (scissors). Sew it together (leather awl and needle). Very few tools involved. Don't forget that our ancestors made shoes for thousands of years without modern tools.

Once you have mastered the few-tool moccasin shoe, you can do things like carve a last to shape the leather (basic woodworking tools), make real welts, etc. But desu I would just stick with basic mocs.

>>14519155
Thu I don't think anyone makes men's shoes here at all. we have cobblers though

>>14519545
>>14519552
My wife and I will probably buy our first house next year. I'm planning on dedicating part of the garage to a workshop to start learning to make shoes. I'll definitely start making mocs as it seems the most entry level way of getting into shoe making. My end goal is to make boots.

Another shitty indoors pic

>>14519873
Fuck me sideways

any boots with similar style and silhouette as these dior homme moto boots?

>>14519873
Looks really good. I like the last they're built on

>>14518035
What's wrong with moc toe? I'm not really into the sleek, skinny silhouettes of:
>>14517988
>>14518039
>>14518305
>>14518366

I think it's a much more rugged/muscular look and the chukka sole helps to complete the heavy robust look that a moc toe goes for.

tl;dr
Fuck you I like it

>>14520040
Nothing wrong with it. If it's what you like then go for it.
It is the official boot of skinny hipsters who have never worked a day in their lives. Not sure why they love that style so much but they do.

>>14520088
So if I'm 6'1 with broad shoulders and a regular gym goer I can at least feign authenticity?

>>14520101
You should be alright

>>14517984
remember that time we had /combatboots/ and /boots/ running in parallel? fuck me either, must have been a month ago

>>14520430
Combat boots is for a special breed of autism

>>14520436
and this shit isn't. correct?
>>14518519

>>14520436
Combat boots got me into fashion boots. It all started with a pair of milsurp jungle boots 6 years ago. I still wear them to this day.

Anyone know of online sellers that do decent deals on premium brands?
Has anyone bought boots off amazon & got ripped off?

>>14520449
That shit is turbo autism, but for the gay crowd.

>>14520478
I didn't like wearing them while I was a soldier, I'm sure as hell not gonna wear them now that I'm not

>>14520478
six years later and they still look better than the rest of this shit

>>14520492
Check seller ratings and read reviews. Amazon has some risk to it. Rakuten is fairly reliable. Alibaba or other China-based stores should be avoided at all costs.

So I am considering these: https://therake.com/belsire-brown-leather-and-suede-oxford-boots.html
The price is one of the best I've seen from Balmoral boots and shipping to my country is for free. At the same time I am kind of at odds with the brand itself. I've not heard about them before and it seems like some random new brands. Any experience? Would you cop? I mean for 260 eurobucks it's a steal even if they last only 4-5 years.

>>14520833
Promo pics show creasing already. Price is right but I wouldn't count on 4-5 years from them.

>>14520833
Go to their about section on their website

>>14520862
Hmmm ... yeah. 2015 :/

>>14520847
True ... I just want some Balmoral boots but without paying over 500. Also since my feet are smol it's harder to get some.

Another option: https://therake.com/bodileys-dark-brown-westminster-burnished-calf-leather-balmoral-boots.html but leather sole :/

>>14518935
that's great to hear. just out of curiosity why would you recommend the traditional brown over black? I keep going back and forth between the lighter suede (that i posted) and the black.. i feel like the suede stands out more but idk if I'm just being wooed by SEX.

>>14520922
>wants this
>not willing to pay for
>Mentality
No gonna make it

>>14520965
Brown is more versatile than black. Goes with almost anything and easy to dress up or down.

>>14520994
This.
I hate this mentality in this thread. Good boots aren't cheap and great boots are very expensive. If you don't want to spend then you'll get crap.

>>14521082
>being willing to pay for premium boot bc u know it’s premium
>being unwilling to pay for a premium boot bc u don’t know it’s premium
>being willing to pay for a premium boot bc it’s priced at a premium
>being unwilling to pay for a a premium boot bc it’s priced at a premium

But ultimately,
>is it a good boot for you and your style regardless of price or quality

Most just want a boot that fits their style and doesn’t cost too much

>>14518496
that heel looks like shit

>>14520722
thank you

I can get these for relatively cheap. What do you think, are they any good?

>>14521604
Basketball-American tier

>>14521604
Don't post this crap in these threads

>>14517984
i want chunky zipper or chelsea style boots for the winter

i live in northern norway so we get pretty rough winters here, but since we don't salt the roads as much as in north america i dont have to worry about salt stains on the leather.

can anyone recommend any boots? I dont want any outdoorsy type shoes. I'd rather want something that can be dressed up casually and more formally

these are a pair of FEIT boots i found but they retail for 830e on ssense.

>>14522356
also inb4 eytys, i don't like that brand too much and I've heard negative reviews about their boots

also i looked at this pair of our legacy boots but theyve sold out everywhere of my size

>>14522356
don't have any recommendations but that pic is gross

>>14522356
Kiko kostandinov campers are solid with goretex lining tho they have no grip

has thursday got their qc shit together? I remember seeing them catching a lot of hell around here but that was awhile ago and I was considering grabbing a pair

am i retarded for wanting a pair of 875s? I'm a pharmacist, looking for a comfy sole to walk around in all day

>>14519873
What are these?

Interested in getting my first pair of non-winter boots, any recommendations?

>>14522988
Don't rush to buy some, try on several, look around at different styles, read reviews. You will be happier in the long run with something quality that may cost more up front.

>>14522853
They've gotten better but not enough to make me buy them

>>14522853
Now that they're a bit more established than just your run of the mill kickstarter shoe company they definitely care more about their PR than ever before. They must have gotten tired of getting slammed on reddit cause mine have been impeccable. Even if you were to have an issue their customer service is top notch and always fulfill returns/exchanges.

Cocoran jump boots any good? I've got lace up gaiters for field work but they are a bit of effort to keep neat through the day. Thought maybe the jump boots would look decent with bloused trousers.

Lol is this worth bragging about

been rocking some suede cowboy boots what does fa think of cowboys?

>>14522356
Rm Williams, Loake Chatsworth, Tricker's Henry?

>>14523346
C & t leather is great

>>14522853

I had two pairs delivered because I needed a resize. The first pair had a bit of excess thread and the inside leather lining wasn't completely glued but nothing to return a pair of boots over. Generally pretty heavy and appear high quality.

Only con is that they're pretty bulky in person compared to pictures online, but that's accredited to the generally thick and high quality sole.

>>14523346
if they fit well it is

>>14523122
Speaking of PR, this post reeks of it. Why would you not say QA, shillfriend?

>>14523609
>but that's accredited to the generally thick and high quality sole
This whole post sounds like Thursday shilling their product in these threads.
Everyone knows Thursday uses a garbage Dainite ripoff for their soles because they're too cheap to pay for actual Dainite. Their soles are softer than real Dainite and wear out much faster as a result.
I want Thursday shills to go

Anybody have experience with Scarosso boots? I like the look of these but I've never really heard of them.

>>14523122
This post was written by Thursday, holy shit. They're not even trying to be subtle

>>14520009
yes, other moto boots...
a lot of designers have done a take on them
MMM
Julius
Guidi

Everyone in these threads has terrible taste

>>14524043
>>14524714
he like thing I dont must be paid shill

Keep trying to punch down on people buying a more affordable boot, I'd mog your fits any day of the week

>>14525372
post fit with thursdays

>>14525372
>I'd mog your fits any day of the week
I doubt it. I probably have the best boots in these threads
Most people here wear Docs and fashion Chelsea boots.
Everyone here has shit taste

>>14525379
What boots you got senpai?

>>14525381
Some Americana trash I bet.

>>14525580
>says the Doc faggot
People who wear Docs and Solovair aren't allowed to critical other people's boots. They have their own issues to sort out

>>14525315
You’re in this thread too fucker

Are moc toes /fa/?

w/ chelseas, should i get the narrowest fit possible?

thoughts? for a female

>>14525728
They're really ugly

Does anyone know what boots these are?

>>14526390
Knowing Brad they're some 3000 designer boots that none of us could ever afford.

>>14526400
I can afford them
Anyone know what they are?

Somebody recommend me a boot that's like a less bulbous Iron Ranger. Similar price would be nice

>>14526450
The IR isn't actually that bulbous in person.

>>14526450
But to answer your question, the Merchant from RW is made on the same last as the IR, so it will fit and feel the same, but it has an unstructured toe.

wtc these boots?

>>14526887
The longer you look at it, the worse it gets. What the fuck is this picture?

>>14526887
Yeah where the hell is this picture from

>>14526965
>>14526986
i just want my meme boots

>>14527095
Any store where they sell the gay probably has em. they are probably Frye or some other lame boot company the where is the photo from

>>14526887
>reverse search reveals nothing
Seriously, what the fuck is this image? Where did it come from?

>>14526390
Try searching Italian Suede Derby Boots

I want a parade/derby boot and I'm torn between these three.
Which to get and why?
1/3 Whites Main Street Boot

>>14527719
2/3 Viberg Derby Boot

>>14527721
3/3 Dayton Parade Boot

What's up /boot/ I copped Danners in great condition for $40

>>14517984
casuals

>>14527719
Viberg
>best profile
>no toe cap
>dainite
>subtle stitching
>no metal eyelets

Thoughts on these? I want a pair of combat boots and these from Our Legacy caught my attention.

These arrived a couple days ago...looks like they were originally patent but all that was left was some loose/cracked remainder on the toe caps that I brushed off (if that's even possible).

>>14528556
Pull the trigger mane

>>14526887
wtc skinny brown gf

Does White's have the best looking boots out there today?

>>14528556
i was also looking at these but not so sure about that mesh fabric panel

How can I wear these and not look like a redneck?

>>14529538
>zippers
don't worry, no matter what you do you'll look like a fag

>>14528777
nice
but quality of their work boots has supposedly gone way downhill

Are Wesco boots worth the price?

>>14529612
Absolutely. Wesco is probably America's best boot maker

>>14529538
By wearing them along with other stuff not associated with what a redneck wears, and also not acting like one

>>14517984
What boot should one get if they’re after low drop (no heel raise if possible) and for fat feet. I have wide feet and dont do well with large heels on shoes

>>14529544
>work boots has supposedly gone way downhill
Not at all. If anything they're stepping up their game on all fronts because competition between companies is so high these days. If you slack off, some kickstarter brand churning out crap for cheap will surpass you.

>>14526965
>>14526986
>>14527147
>>14527149
ive been searching for those boots for months but i found the ig of the person who owned that bike before the guy in the pic did.
bike is a honda ft500 with a yamaha tank thrown on

>>14529957
link ig?

When the fuck is it going to get cold again so I can wear boots?

can Asians pull off boots or does it just look LARPing tier?

>>14529957

Yeah link the @, bike is actually sick I’d wanna see more pics.

>spend hundreds on heritage boots and motorcycle boots for that last a lifetime romanticism meme
>end up just wearing my real Steel cap workbooks 90% I decide to wear boots

desu I think they look pretty good all beat up and I feel authentic in them as opposed to the LARPer heritage boots.

>>14518127
>>14518039
do you ever post in the waywt threads? your lower-half fits are generally good dude

>>14530496
Sometimes

>>14530478
>>14529995
you kind of have to go back pretty far to see pics of that bike but he does other cool art installations and works on other bikes and stuff.
pretty sure its @thesupermarket on ig

>>14518383
Cringe. I bet you wear flipflops. YIKES

>>14526390
Ask his boyfriend.

Can anybody ID these boots for me?
I need business casual brown boots lads. pls help