/fa/ - Fashion

Make sure the shoulders fit perfectly before you buy. Tailoring shoulders is extremely difficult, almost everything else you can get fixed.
First suit should be wool. Avoid weird blends. A couple percent of something else is alright, pure wool is better.
Go for navy or gray.
At least half-lined or full lined.
No patch pockets, ticket pockets, etc. Keep the first one simple.
Notch lapels.
2 buttons best, maybe 3, NOT 1 button.

>>14430628
not that ASOS-tier piece of abomination

ASOS provides cheap, shitty materials that will hardly last a season. Why bother tailoring anything from there? Save your money and get a decent suit from a store that specializes in suits.

Just go to your department store and search through the good brands. Don't buy shitty stuff from ASOS or other fast fashion brands - they look like shit. Look for ones from the mid-price fashion labels.

>>14430668
>>14430671
>>14430684

I'm only using Asos because they ship next day and I can buy a lot to try to and returning what I don't want is super simple.

I'm filtering out shitty brands, e.g the one in my OP is Moss Bros which I think is pretty decent for suits.

>>14430667
How do I know if the shoulders are the right size or not?

>>14430749
Essentially the seam should line up with your shoulder joint and the arms and shoulder should hang naturally with no divots or excess fabric.
https://www.realmenrealstyle.com/visual-suit-fit-guide/

>>14430668
what's wrong with it?

>>14430778
It looks cheap and flimsy. Go to a high-end menswear store. Feel the materials, ask questions, get measured, maybe even try something on.

>>14430874
Also, the model's jacket is too short. Shoulder doesn't fit. Shit shirt, shit tie. Looks fused. Every day the same questions on /fa/. Can you not look up an archive?

>>14430887
>Looks fused
I doubt ASOS sells anything that isn't.
OP, do your homework and save money for a real suit.

Suitsupply was decent for me, but expect to drop some money(though it's a suit so relative cost is average). I think I paid $700 for the whole suit and I needed to buy shoes and a belt elsewhere too so in total a mid level suit should run you $500-1200. Don't be a cheap poorfag and get a low quality fast fashion suit, pay a little more to make sure it looks decent at the very least.

>>14430778
theres nothing worse than a man in a cheap suit

>>14430628
not op but how much should I be spending on a first suit? I'm a senior in college and I'm trying to get something proper business-like that I can still wear fine to social functions/weddings.

I'm trying to find if something like pic related works, but I feel like it's going to kill me financially.

>>14431368
Depends on where you live but I would spend atleast ~500 dollarydoos. Would have to be atleast half canvas and decent fabric though.
Avoid the S120-150 meme and get a good ol' S100 which should last you longer and I doubt you would be able to tell the difference.

>>14431383
Hmm just cruising Jos A. Bank, it seems like $500 is quite a lot, so is about $500 enough to be good everywhere? I've lost some weight but I've got genetic moobs, can I always just get a pricey suit tailored if I continue to lose weight?

>>14431368
around $500-$800, which coincidentally is right around what suit supply charges for a decent suit

>>14430628
>>14430628
>34/36
What's it like being a twig chestlet?

>>14430628
Holy shit, this suit is terrible. This looks like absolute shit and the slim everything makes it worse

>>14430874
>>14430887
I'm not OP m8, I was just curious what specifically made this suit look flimsy

>>14431465
Seriously. Basicily cardboard + plastic shirt + prole gap

>>14431430
No one will think a 500 dollar suit is "bad" and unusable as long as the dress code allows suits. You will only run into issues if the situation calls for black tie or white tie.

Id go with charcoal but navy is more popular in certain locations.

Also try to get a fully wool suit if possible. Plastics make the suit be hotter.

>>14431494
>prole gap
What is that?

I bought this suit and I'm planning to pick it up tomorrow. I also have a plain really dark navy suit that I don't really like but I usually wear to interviews. Would this one be alright to wear to an interview instead or is it too casual?

>>14431368
this suit is well tailored with stromg shoulders, look at the lapel, the edges are well stitch, this is atleast $5k of pure fine wool 120tc

>>14431551
Fucking google it. Is that so hard?

>>14430628
Get something dark navy blue, flap pockets (if you want a jetted look you can tuck them in) two buttons (unless you are very tall then go for three), slim to medium lapel. Notch lapel or a smaller more conservative peak lapel (especially if it’s your style) me being way into classic menswear would recommend you get a matching vest with your suit so you have two outfits (vests are also good for weddings and funerals). Buy a suit in worsted wool. Remember to wear a pocket square, it always looks better and they’re in style.

Try one of these 3 companies:

Suitsupply
Spier and Mackay
Brooks Brothers (1818 line; all others are insufficient quality or too expensive)

>>14431476
>dollar gap
>shoulder wrinkly
>arms wrinkly
>fused, not canvas
>slim fit
>pants bulging
>colour
Not to mention the other things, like the shirt, texture, pattern, random flower, sloppy pocket square
>>14431636
>pear shape
>colour
>sleeves
>seems like a very soft shoulder
>slim fit
I would wear this colour in summer only, and only occasionally. It is very casual. I tend to believe that navy and all that jazz is very new-agey, as in "iGent". Why don't you give the grey colours a spin? I found that I like the mid-grey and darker tones best.
>>14432570
>slim to medium lapel
Very disagreeable. 9 cm lapel is the most classic width. Large men tend to pick wider lapels. Smol men thinner, but then again, I would even recommend 9 cm for sub 170 cm men.

>>14430667
>Make sure the shoulders fit perfectly
This.

Other things:

>if the collar sits higher than your shirt collar
>if the arm holes are too big and cause the jacket to rise if you raise your arms
>if it contains polyester

don't buy it because it can't be fixed

>>14432840
Are you that faggot a while back that binge watched Sartorial Talks videos and then spouted the worst opinions ever and got BTFO by everyone in that thread?

>>14432522
>$5k

>>14432522
>>14434602
You can get a bespoke suit made for 1k. Imagine spending 5k on a suit. Why?

>>14435315
>bespoke for 1k
Decent MTM starts at 1k, do tell me where you get true bespoke at 1k.

>>14434354
Not the one you are replying to but..
>shitting on sartorial talks

>>14430749
retard

>>14435398
There's a tailor in my city that makes bespoke suits. I got one made for my wedding. I picked everything from the wool it's made of, the lining, buttons, style of pockets, vent, lapels, etc. It was actually overwhelming having so many options that you don't think of normally, like thread color. I was measured, fitted and everything and the total was just over 1000USD.
Planning on having another made soon for no reason other than they're so good for so cheap. Look for local tailors that have been there forever but aren't brand names. They're always way cheaper but are the best.

>>14435398
Decent MTM starts around $500/600

>>14435726
So your local threadmender in uzbekistan made a bespoke garment for 1000$? If you live in a civilized country theres no way you paid $1000 for bespoke

>>14435843
I live in Salt Lake City in the USA. Besides the Mormons I'd hardly call it uncivilized

>>14435791
Off the rack trash - 200
MTM - 500
Bespoke - 1000
Paying for the name meme brands - 5000

>>14430628

If you're from the UK I recommend Next. Yes it's "off the shelf retail trash" but it looks good and compared to the alternatives of M&S, Moss Bros, John Lewis etc, it's cheaper and far better quality.

When you start earning more you can upgrade to a better quality suit.

>>14435660
Hugo is great to listen to. He's smart and interesting but it's all just suits and shit.
Only turbo autists like him wear suits every day

>>14436015
>tfw turbo autist

>>14436024
Unless you're a lawyer or work in finance or something that requires suits for work, you will look retarded wearing a double breasted suit. Hugo literally goes grocery shopping in that shit

>>14436031
So do I. Because I genuinly enjoy suits.
I work as a consultant in IT in the part of europe with the most relaxed work dress code whatsoever and people around me has just stopped caring unless I do something special.

>>14436058
If you enjoy them then more power to you. Personally I reserve a suit for special occasions, day-to-day a sports coat and slacks are more than enough to stand out from the rabble.

>>14436064
Yeah sure is. I have the odd flannel trousers but usually easier to just grab one of the suits for work.
I also have horrendous ass sweat so anything in a lighter fabric will show a huge sweat stain in that area unfortunately.

>>14434354
No, I don't know who that was. I give regularly advice to those who want to buy suits and usually recommend Sartorial Talks and Gentleman's Gazette - in a hope to captivate the people. You can easily spot who wears a suit for work and who wears a suit because he enjoys it.

This will answer your questions...

https://youtu.be/90UGxniga7I

>>14437192
What a retarded video

I have a really nice MTO suit I got made a while ago. It was cool choosing the material and every thing. But it just made me hungry to full bespoke.
Sadly, there are no bespoke tailors anywhere near me. And I don't feel like flying out to a big city multiple times for fittings.

>>14437257
Yeah, Tom Ford is a hack who sells RTW suits and calls them high class

>>14437265
Are there no travelling tailors in your country? They are a dying breed in Germany. Many defaulted over the past years.

>>14437655
In the US all the big names are all in NYC or another major city
I don't know anything about traveling tailors

>>14437265
>Sadly, I don't feel like

>>14430628
ASOS is definitely your "best bet" lmao. Get a suit from SuitSupply.

>>14438413
Don't help the retard

>>14435791
Not a chance.

>>14437192
Jesus, don't wear your jacket that tight, if it's about to burst when you're just standing still, it's definitely too tight.

>>14437192
Why do people admire that guy? Poor asian kid.

>>14438245
Wow, very funny post that totally makes sense given the context, oh, wait.

>>14439110
Normies bought the whole 'gays have better fashion sense' thing and think extra foppish, limp-wristed types must be more gay and therefore have even better style. It's why the queer eye guys were so over-the-top faggoty.

I need some help buying my first real suit. I've rented before, but never owned one.

I figure I'll buy one off the rack, have it properly tailored and use the measurements to have future suits custom made.

Are the JosA. Bank Signature Imperial blend suits decent?

https://www.josbank.com/signature-imperial-blend-tailored-fit-suit

They are pretty much the only decent suiting store around me because I live in a shit hole, they have deals every other month and they will tailor there.
When they have a buy one get two free sale I'd be getting three wool suits for 300 a piece, I could get one medium grey, one navy and one plaid/windowpane suit for a more casual look. Then I could have them tailored and have custom suits made using the measurements. I want to get a tux, tweed suit, double breasted suit, etc.

Does that sound like a decent plan?

>>14439927
Why do you need to own a tux?

>>14439927
The fuck do you need a wool/silk blend for? Why have you never owned a suit before but suddenly you're planning to buy like 6? If you need a suit then buy just one that is decent quality. Then if at some point in the future you need another one you can buy another good one. If they're offering them on sale for $300 then it's at best maybe a $300 suit if you're lucky, I hope you don't think you're getting some kind of deal on a $800 suit.

>>14439930
I've had to rent a tux three times in the last year. I've been attending more formal events and want to dress accordingly.

>>14439942
1: Why buy six suits?
Why buy any of the shit we talk about here? Because I like how they look, my career is taking off and I have the opportunity to wear them way more often now and I have the money to do so.

2: I'm aware of the actual cost versus the quality, hence my plan. I'm fine with a basic grey wool suit for 300, then I can get that tailored and use the measurement for a custom suit. I'm not buying six suits at once, I'm planning on building a wardrobe over time. The only suiting options I have around here are JosA, Men's Wearhouse, Bananna Republic, and Nordstroms. And I don't think the difference in price for suits at Nordstroms is equal to the difference in quality when it comes to a properly tailored basic grey wool suit.

>>14440043
>I need some help buying my first real suit. I've rented before, but never owned one
>I don't think the difference in price for suits at Nordstroms is equal to the difference in quality
good luck

>>14440043
You need to go to a MTM atelier if you want your measurements taken. If you go to a tailer they will just needle the suit up and make the adjustments. You should not measure yourself or your garment for a proper fit.

>>14439927
Order online from SuitSupply.

>>14440809
Are they ok for a blind buy? I know my rough measurements and would get it tailored afterwards.

>>14441572
I like my suit I just bought from there, but I went in person. If you're not in a hurry and if they accept returns then it's worth trying. You could also get a tailor to measure you first and buy made to measure.

Where can I find a suit with this cut? What’s it called?

>>14442318
The faggot

>>14442318
Looks more like a tuxedo jacket

>>14442318
you're looking Italian cut anon, though in all honesty that jacket is likely bespoke

>>14442553
Shut up and stop posting in this thread. You clearly are ignorant to the topic at hand.
That shit looks like slim fitting fast fashion garbage.

>>14442534
Its not. The lapels would have been in different fabrics, usually silk or grossgrain.
The button would also have been a fabric coated button rather than some plastic POS.

>>14442617
Holy shit, he's asking what cut of suit would match what's in the image. Do you know what a cut of a suit is? Cus it doesn't mean "tight" or "loose" or have anything to do with the quality of material or whether or not it chases trends. Is your only experience with suits looking up Amazon shit? Did your father teach you nothing?
I guess I'll have to be your daddy. Notice the high arm holes, shorter sleeves, and tucked waist in the first image? That's Italian cut.
See how in the pic I posted the shoulders are more broad, the waist is more relaxed, and the arm holes are lower? This is called American cut. Again, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH QUALITY OR TRENDS. It's like says jeans are "skinny" or "boot cut." It doesn't tell you the quality, style, trend-chasing, etc. It literally just tells you the silhouette.
Try not to make it so obvious you're a zoomer who wore a suit once to prom. Now go to your room.

>>14443015
Based Daddyposter.

>>14443015
Why are you so upset? Relax, autismo

>>14443285
>Everyone who knows stuff is immediately an autist
Low IQ subhuman spotted.

>>14443285
Your first reply was
>Shut up and stop posting in this thread. You clearly are ignorant to the topic at hand.
And now you say to calm down? lol I know it's just a defensive measure cus you got blown out but that's really pathetic. Take it from me, your internet step father: real men would rather admit their mistakes and seek to improve than protect their idiocy