/fa/ - Fashion

Best boots for a cafe racer aesthetic?

thoughts? cop or nah, would be my first pair.

>>14339581
Yuck

>>14339478
where can i get a pair like this niggas wearin?

>>14339596
what movie is this

>>14339620
The Baader Meinhof Complex

>>14339620
Revolution is my bf by Labruce

>>14339624
>Revolution is my bf by Labruce
my bad, it's >>14339624

Style these?

>>14339636
Holy shit, these look terrible. Chelsea boots look shitty enough but then you combine them with Doc's aesthetic and these just look bad.

I really hope no one actually would wear these

Anybody got the Austrian Para Boots? How o they fit?

Where can I find boots of similar style (on photo is repro of oit-of-stock German WW2 Fallschirmjäger boots, but anything similar, old or modern will do).
Requirements are basically that it should be a slender boot, most importantly a slender sole (no craggy winter alpine shit, but wearable in all seasons). Also preferrably available to Eurofag (no fancy Yank-only brands).
Only thing somewhat acceptable I found are milsurp Austrian lightweight combat boots (but I don't want used stuff).
Thanks

lets talk boots with zippers

why do they do this?
do they unzip suddenly when walking?

>>14339751
There is no excuse for wearing boots with zippers. Grow up

>>14339653
Size down one full size unless you want to look like the honkler.

>>14339653
tts for me but I have wide feet

>>14339751
It makes it easy u don’t need to lace , but make sure u get boots with good thick zippers.

Are Solovair's a meme or are they genuinely higher quality than Doc Marten's? They are cheaper than the Made in England vintage version of the latter.

>>14339906
Who cares? They're still ugly shit just like Docs. They can be the highest quality boots in the world and you'll still look like a lesbian or teenager for wearing them

>>14339906
The monkey boots are pretty good

Any downsides to Vibergs besides the price?

>>14339959
The 2030 last is pretty wide and roomy, so determining the perfect size can be hard without trying them on first. I've heard everything from going half a size down to a full size or more. For something that expensive I want to be positive before I order.
Also, CXL leather is shit and boring. Why would you get Vibergs for 700 made with CXL when there are a million other brands that have similar styles that also use CXL for half the price?

>>14339751
the only acceptable use of zippers on boots is if they're the the chosen way to get your feet into them, or perhaps if the boots are very tall.

I want jackboots.
Who makes good jackboots, preferrably in Europe?

So I have been a poor fag my whole life and now I have the resources to purchase my first pair of boots.
Could you guys recommend me a nice versatile style to begin with and a brand/store to purchase from?
Thanks in advance

I'm looking for a nice pair of Chelsea boots. What are some good brands? Looking to spend maybe $200-$300.

>>14340120
Red Wing Iron Rangers. they're just about the most entry level boot you can get but they're pretty good. You'll hear retards on here bitch about them but that's just because they're popular.

>>14340226
Blacksmiths are extremely similar to the Iron Rangers but they look a lot better

>>14340224
Instead of spending that much on chelsea boots get some rope instead and hang yourself

Cop?

>>14339640
> confusing Chelsea boots with dealer boots.

>>14339959
Cxl and loads of qc reported on r goodyearwelt

>>14340524
they're not that awful, cop if the quality is good and they aren't like, $500

has anyone here jodhpurs? thoughts?

>>14339906
Basically, if you want Docs, get Solovair instead

I have a pair of black derbys from a collaboration with YMC they did, they actually feel like 'real shoes' rather than 'imitation shoes' which the Chinese Docs are that I've tried on. Leather's a step up (not as good as most high-end shoes obviously, but certainly not the plastic stuff Docs use), construction's a step up, silhouette is slightly more refined

>>14341205
Wish I could find a decent pair in a G fitting

Cop if you like the aesthetic, but I feel that they can only be worn if you buy proper, Northampton top end ones. H&M/Asos/Zara sexcore jodhpurs are utter cringe

>>14340524
they're fine. don't cop, unless you love them anon.

>>14341124
But
>Muhhh Goodyear welt meme

>>14341124
>QC issues
>Viberg

I have a hard time believing this. Viberg's attention to detail is one of their defining characteristics. And I've been all over r/goodyearwelt reading reviews. Sure it's Reddit, but it's an excellent resource for finding in depth reviews with pics. I have seen very few Viberg posts with QC issues.
If I had the money to blow I'd love a pair.

Another meme I'll never fall for:
>shell cordovan

>>14339655
You're Dom.

South African waxi boot from kommandostore y/n?

The majority of the shit posted in this thread is black.
Black boots are garbage. Who the fuck wears them?

>>14341824
y

>>14341560
>everything popular is a meme because I am a self loathing depressed teenager whose only outlet for spite is an imageboard full of other depressed teenagers.

>>14341707
There's one the first or second page.

>>14341829
>non-black boots

>>14341900
I saw it.
What people don't realize is Vibergs are handmade. They're not gonna be perfect as if a machine made it. But that's what the autists over there expect. Half of the whining they do about supposed QC issues is a bad stitch in one spot or a small scuff on a part of the boot that will be covered in scuffs within a week.
I have seen examples of Viberg having some slip ups, but they're quite rare compared to so many other brands. To say that Viberg has a problem with QC is ridiculous. You know who has QC issues? Alden, Allen Edmonds, Wolverine, etc. Those companies are notorious for their issues.
Just because the autists on Reddit whine about the most minor stuff doesn't mean Viberg makes bad boots.

I don't want people to think I'm some Viberg fanboy. I don't even own a pair of them. But I've done research as I was considering a pair before and read up all about them and reviews. Viberg is a very safe option.

>>14341912
Good joke, retard. Very funny

>>14341912
Some of those reddish brown, or straight brown boots are nice. Pastel colors are a bit much though

>>14341918
Well I think the gist of it is their prices are > C&J with red wing Qc. Also they're benchmade not handmade.

And I didn't actually say they were bad.

>>14341965
For the price I'd rather have C&J but I also like the Viberg service boot look.
I'll just get both

I recently got Durango ankle cowboy boots. They're comfortable and decent quality, got them on eBay for a steal.

>>14342049
Ankle cowboy books are cringe. Sorry.

Boys poorfag reporting in, this canadian store is having a sale please help me pick a pair of boots that will get me laid

https://www.callitspring.com/ca/en/men/footwear/boots

>>14339655
>(on photo is repro of oit-of-stock German WW2 Fallschirmjäger boots, but anything similar, old or modern will do)
Fallschirmjager jump boots had side lacing.

what about french army boots?

>>14341824
These would be absolute kino if it weren't for the strap and buckle at the top.

>>14342285
Kino = film

>>14341824
Get the lug sole

>>14342266
Unnecessary

>>14342331
how so?

>>14342335
The top strap - it just looks retarded in a casual setting.

>>14342266
Are those the mil-tec ones? I got them and they fucking suck, the back inside the boots wear off after 30 minutes of walking and then cut into your heel.

>>14342357
even i wear pants over the strap
>>14342366
lots of bootleg
doesn't happen with the original ones made in france (with the white interior) maybe happens with later tunisian produced models (with black interior)

>>14342370
If it’s covered up, then why? I’m genuinely curious. It seems like it’d be a an asinine pain in the ass.

>he wears reddit wing iron rangers unironically
LMFAOOO
u better live in texas or ur just a gay ass poser

>>14342404
Good one.
Iron Rangers are the definitive boot. They're the standard for a reason

>>14342299
Kino is cross-medium, kino is eternal

>>14342430
It’s not. Stop using it wrong.

>>14342299
its cinema dumb idiot

>>14342543
Same thing, faggot

Y/N?

>>14342574
The amount of whites shilling on this board has turned me off of that brand forever.

>>14342574
Cop

>>14342590
Maybe it's not shilling if they're actually good.
Also the "shilling" is almost exclusively me. I own two pairs

>>14342598
Just put my order into Bakershoe.com:

Last: Semi Dress (Bounty Hunter)
Counter Leather: Brown Dress
Toe Vamp Leather: Brown Dress
Upper (Shaft) Leather: Brown Dress
Leather Liner: Canyon/Red
Lace Design: Plain Toe
Pull Loops: Leather Pull Loops
Celastic Toe Box: No Thanks
Toe Cap: Medallion Toe Cap
Toe Cap Leather Color: Brown Dress
Steel Toe: No Thanks
Hardware: Antique Eyes & Hooks
Height: 6"
Top: Cut Top (standard)
Midsole: Single
Edge: Brown
Heel Base: Standard
Heel Lifts: Standard
Sole: Vibram 430 Mini Vib
Size - Length: 13
Size - Width: EE
Logos / Embossing: No logos or embossing

Hopefully will be successful after my try-on pair. It'll look kind of similar to pic related

>>14342590
I've spent over a year trying to find boots that fit me properly. I feel with White's (or Nicks), I can actually get a pair of shoe which fit my clown feet.

>>14342671
The end product won't be worth the time and money sorry broseph

>>14342560
Imagine being this dumb

>>14342671
Did you sign up for the newsletter? It gives 10% off. That's probably around 50 bucks

>>14342679
Don't listen to this retard. He's just bitter

>>14342690
Yes I did thank you. I just noticed I didn't specify which trim I wanted, so I emailed them and made sure it's "single" that I want.

>>14340302
That's pretty subjective. A lot of people really like the cap toe.

>>14340524
I would

>>14339906
I just bought the black greasy leather solovairs. They're much better than the Doc Martens. The sole on the bottom is thicker, the tread pattern is deeper as well. So you wont wear it out anywhere near as fast as Docs. The greasy leather lets you break the boots in within a week at most. Doc leather is so stiff and plastic, the stitching isnt as good as Solovair. The big difference is the goodyear welt design. You can actually get solovairs resoled and buy replacement soles directly from the manufacturer.

BUT the design of Doc Martens/Solovairs are kinda dated. And the sizing is very fucking weird. For instance in both brands, I find the length to be perfect for me feet but the ankle/heel area is so large that my ankle lifts up and out of the heel cup easily and my foot would slide around if it wasn't for the fact my toes are pretty much touching the ends. Maybe I have slim girly feet or something because I cannot get these style of boot to fit snuggly around my ankles and heel properly. I have worn several other types of boots including Jungle boots and they fit my feet so much better. Unless you are comfortable with Doc Marten styled boots already I would pass on these types of boots entirely. The air cushioned soles really are comfy when paired with good shoe inserts. But its not worth it when the boot is lifting off the bottom of your foot like sandals.

I want something like this but under $500. W2C? Thanks. These are Alyx Studios but they're over 1k.. the lace is detachable and I wouldn't want it anyways

thoughts? also don't understand this White's shilling business, i thought people just liked these boots.

>>14342834
>lifting heels
Have you tried using those heel pasties cushioned strip thingies to stop your heels sliding out?
You can buy them is probably any shoe shop/section/chemist. Might be worth a try and they're cheap. Usually you'll find a padded sticky strip on one side of a suede-wrapped cushion.

Some people do have rather narrow heels though.
Some have narrow heels and quite wide forefeet. Sizing shit that's meant to fit in your feet all day thus accounting for foot swelling as the day wears on taking in to account temperatures etc., is hard.

>>14339655
>19
https://www.epicmilitaria.com/german-paratrooper-black-leather-boots.html

>>14342863
That's kindof the entire point of them being more expensive is you get a unique design that you cant at even a fast ffashion place like Zara

>>14343173
Nobody is shilling White's boots. It's just that as this board gets older, more people here can actually afford higher end boot brands like Whites, Viberg, Nicks, Wesco, etc.

>>14342560
no it's not, you literal retard. google the definitions.

>>14342574
There's too much on them for me to find them aesthetic, like the logo, the little fance shaped element and the color scheme of the sole looks like a cake.
I'd say no.

>>14343173
Still ugly, no matter how many times you post a picture.

>>14343424
It literally means “cinema” in German.

>>14343449
exactly, cinema not film

>>14343449
>>14343711
>>14342560
no one here is german so no one gives a shit
even if you are german, nobody gives a shit
your words mean want we want them to mean you ultra-cucks

>>14343173
I like US style service boots but don't get all the obsession with rough out, Cxl etc especially at the price range of Whites.

>>14343766
Please kys

I know that’s big in the European clubs,
but are you Dom all the time? I tend to
stay neutral. Because I enjoy both ends
of the spectrum. I'm normally a Power Top
though. That’s just the position I play.

>>14339581
Absolutely disgusting

There is nothing wrong with docs for a beginner boot. Prove me wrong. Pretty funny to see you guys with $700 meme boots trying to unironically justify wasting your money on something that is just a knock off milsurp/doc marten boot.

>>14339636
Chelsea boots are meant to look thin, these look obese and clunky

>>14343902
See

>>14341122

>>14343442
well what style do you like?

>>14343834
you dont get why people like flesh, or chromexcel? what does the price range of whites have to do with those leathers? is there some other leather you should be getting at the 500$ range?

>>14339499
Gonna hurt when those laces go in the chain

Is there a boot brand known for a having a wide "x" shape stitched onto the back?

I someone the other week wearing minimalist black leather boots with that "><" on the heel but couldn't ID a brand or anything.

>>14343834
I have no problems with CXL other than that it's just surface dyed and the top finish comes off extremely easily. Do it you have black boots and look at them the wrong way they're gonna scuff off and leave brown spots. Black on brown looks bad for me personally. The only CXL I'd ever get is natural color. They don't have a finish to scuff off and actually darken and get this amazing patina over time.
CXL creases really easily, and it's prone to unattractive loose grain way more than other leathers. That's my issue with it. It's not a bad leather at all, it's really soft and CXL has the easiest break in of any boot I've seen.

Waxed flesh boots are fine too, they're just very informal and have a rugged look to them. They don't show scuff or scratches very much and anything you do to them can basically be wiped away with a finger. All of this applies to rough out as well as waxed flesh is basically just rough out with a wax finish applied.
I don't understand why you're so anti CXL or rough out. Are you saying high price boots should only be made out of shell or calf? Calf is fine for dress shoes but I'd be wary of it on rugged casual boots. And shell is the ultimate meme. I could write an entire blog post on why I hate it

>>14344018
I like waxed/oiled leather, it's great and roughout is fine I suppose but at 500 I want Zug, Russia Grain, Kudu or Scotch. Something to beat up then scrub up if necessary.

>>14339653

I'm a 42 in Adidas and 40 in Common Projects, I got the meme boots in 41 and they're okay with insoles. 40 probably would have fit as well but I'm not even sure if they make them that small? They're nice, I got them from the cheapest seller on eBay and the soles are in very good condition, uppers have a few nicks and scratches.

>>14344018
This

I was never a fan of CXL until a saw how well the Natural color patinas. The CXL used in Aldens bootmaker editions is top notch. The only loose grain on mine is around the shafts where my ankle flexes since I like my boots laced up tight. If you use shoe trees and don’t over or under condition your boots then loose grain shouldn’t be a problem. Don’t cheap out on leather care either. Saphir Renovateur is the best stuff I’ve used and all you need with CXL. A jar of it lasts a year for me with regular care of over 10+ pairs of shoes and boots.

>>14344059
Those are typically >500 dollar leathers. I'd expect them in something in the 600-700 range. Crockett and Jones does those leathers and that's how much they charge for them. And C&J is considered one of the best brands for the value to price ratio

>>14344063

>>14344018
>Do it you have black boots
I don't know how I made that typo. I meant "if you have black boots"

>>14344069
Ew

>>14344069
>>14344063
It doesn't even look like you wear those. Stop babying them and beat them up like they're supposed to be

Not my boots, but pic is an example of what natural CXL can look like after really weaing it and letting a patina develop.

>>14344096
I normally would never buy CXL, but god damn /u would buy those if that's what they turn into. What boots are those anyway

>>14344100
Viberg service boots in natural CXL.

>>14339478
Can anyone rec brands for a decent (preferably less than $400) first boot? Mostly for casual wear, with jeans for example. I tried on a few pairs at a Red Wing store because I thought would love the 6 inch mocs or iron ranger, and they fit like shit and didnt look great on me.

>inb4 read the sticky
i did but im confused. the section "work boots" mentions that none of the actual boots that "workers" wear are fashionable, then goes on to rec shit like RWH and Chippewa, and i was under the impression that those are considered fashionable boots. im a complete n00b, not asking to be spoonfed, just pointed in the right direction.

>>14344096
There are only about 8 months of wear on them. The vibergs in your pic are probably much older and based on how much they’ve darkened I’m guessing whoever owns them used coconut oil to condition them like in pic related.

>>14344136
They were work boots before disposable footwear was invented.

>>14344151
right, that makes sense. does that mean that they're wearable outside of work? or the opposite?

>>14344136
"Work boots" doesn't refer to the actual boots you'll find construction workers, linemen, carpenters, etc. wearing today. They wear special shoes with steel safety toes, lots of cushioning and so forth. That's not what we mean by work boots.
Back in the day, work boots were leather boots that people wore for work and then brushed and cleaned up at the end of the day to wear around. When the sole wore out they would replace it. They would keep the same pair of boots for years and years because money was different back then and you kept stuff and took care of it instead of throwing it away and getting a new one.

So for boot lovers work boots are heritage styles like Red Wing's heritage boot line, service boot types that come from WWII boot styles and so forth.
Any other questions just ask and we'll help you with recs.

>>14344169
>>14344151
i see now. i also feel like an idiot. thank you.

are there any recommended styles of boot from chippewa? i like their shoes a lot as well

>>14344179
They used to call it their service boot but they changed the name. I believe it's the Aldrich boot now.
It's like a cheaper version of something Red Wing makes, but with some cheaper material as well like foam inserts whereas RW uses all leather.
It's sub 300

>>14344136
>and they fit like shit and didnt look great on me.
The latter is a subjective thing, but what do you mean they fit like shit?
Were they just uncomfortable?
Presumably you were sized correctly by the store rep?
For most wearers, these boots aren't instantly comfortable; they're not a footcushion (sneaker). The break in period can be painful and bloody for some, and for other's it's fucking nothing at all.

That being said, it could just be the last that those boots are modeled on. I know the IR is on the 8 last, dunno about the moc.

Thing is with rigid footwear not every shoe is able to be fit on all feet. Sneakers are more or less "universal" (to an extent) because canvas, nylon and strips of suede or other fabrics sewn together have a lot more give to them than leather and celastic, at first anyway.

All I'm saying is if you're not used to wearing them, all these brands might "fit like shit" if you mean that in the sense that they're just not instantly comfortable.

However, sometimes they really do just fit like shit for your feet specifically, and there's nothing you can do about that really. Trust me. I've spent far, far, far too much fucking money on footwear that doesn't fit right because it took me a damn goodly while and multiple pairs of whatever to figure out what lasts work best for my fucking feet (I hate them so fucking much). The IR last, which is shared by the Beckman and others, just doesn't work well with my feet, and the break-in I had was blistery to say the least.

It may just be that the last the IR or that moc toe are on just don't work with the shape of your feet or foot, without great alteration or stretching or something.

For people with more or less "normal" (if there is such a thing) feet, finding this out isn't particularly arduous, but if you have picky feet it can get painful and expensive, so it's good to figure this out now (what you mean by "fit like shit",) rather than several pairs down the line.

>>14344179
Here are mine. I like them. Cost a little more than 200 iirc

>>14344141
I've got a pair of vib service boots in natty cxl and have never put coconut oil on them and they're about that dark, and were so OOTB (styleforum special from 2013 or 2014 or so)
>>14344096
I've got a pair of alden indy's in the same leather, though it must be of a different grade of cxl because seem way crappier and thinner than the above mentioned pair, and they too were maybe only a slight shade lighter OOTB. These defo darkened over time compared to how they came to me. Maybe I remember them wrong it's been about a decade.

I've not used coconut oil like some morons out there. From what I've seen, coconut makes leather really dark. Unrecognizably, dull, muddy dark that's rather shit. So dark that you wonder that the owner might as well have just ordered some generic dark brown color for their footwear at the outset instead of natural.

Many conditioners out there will darken the leather slightly. Some permanently. some temporarily. Coconut and mink I think are definite darkeners. I honestly can't remember with renovateur and venetian shoe cream as I've only used the former on black dress shoes and the latter as a finisher on shell.

Cxl's a very oily leather, and so I heard that the most decent all-round conditioner to use for it, that only actually "conditions" and nothing else, is lexol which darkens a little initially but the leather lightens again with wear as the oils are displaced. From what I remember, the lexol is the closet product on the market to oils used at the tannery or some shit. I wouldn't use it on fine grade leather though, just my workwear type boots and pullup leathers.

Over time, all lighter leathers darken a little, unless you don't put anything on them at all and they become all dry.

For this reason I tend to buy a shade or two lighter than what I want because I figure that, in time, it'll just become a richer color anyway when I inevitably have to condition or polish that shit.

That's just my experience anyway.

>>14344286
>hough it must be of a different grade of cxl because seem way crappier and thinner than the above mentioned pair
I love Alden, but they are notorious for shitty CXL. Most people who hate CXL seem to be Alden owners comparing their pair.
I don't know what it is about Alden and Wolvernine, but they are both well known for their shitty CXL batches.

>>14344264
This is what I was thinking.
Something fitting like shit is usually because it's the wrong size. 9 times out of 10 this is gonna be the case. For the one time it's not it's probably that the last simply isn't compatible with your foot, which happens sometimes. But the 8 last from Red Wing is a pretty forgiving last and I haven't heard of many people who can't wear it. Most just aren't wearing the correct size and then think it's the boot that must be off.
Remember, the rule is always to go a half size down with Red Wing, that's usually correct. Some go a full size but that's the exception, not the rule.

>>14343766
>he's actually retarded enough to think 'kino' means cinema in only one language
How can one attempt to be better than everyone and end up looking so inferior?

>>14342049
post a fit

>>14344286
Renovateur darkens it slightly. Saphir has a new line of creams for CXL. I’m wonder how the neutral compares to the Renovateur.

>>14344289
The quality of the standard production Alden Indy’s has declined a bit which is disappointing considering their price now. However unlike AE which will send you garbage without even thinking most face-to-face Alden retailers check their stock for qc issues before they put them out in my experience. This may not be true for the online retailers.

>>14343263
I'm saying I like the design of the boot with the little platform/lift. Any recommendations bros?

>>14344381
Wow the hate AE gets now.

>most face-to-face Alden retailers check their stock for qc issues before they put them out in my experience. This may not be true for the online retailers.
It depends on the retailer: neither's a sure thing from all I've heard over the years. My own experience:

Those nat cxl indy's had some "cosmetic issues" or so alden said when I sent them back to the canadian retailer who sent them back to alden, but I got one hell of a deal on them in the first place and got some good, hard travel wear before a real flaw manifested: the uppers and welt separated and exposed the stitching - a not uncommon flaw with indy's apparently. Have not yet bothered to send them in to get them fixed, but I don't live in NA so it's a hassle.

I've ordered 3 pairs of boots (+ pre-ordered a pair just yesterday) from the guy at Alden of Carmel who does good at weeding out Alden's typical QC fuckery.

Most Alden retailers aren't allowed to ship out of the country they're located in, but AOC does and I like their makeups. 2 shells and one "all-terrain" indy and no flaws to be found. Breathe a sigh of relief every time I open the box because returning shit is a goddamned headache.

Conversely, the closest physical Alden retailer to me is in Hong Kong, from whom I've bought 3 pairs, one of which had some had some typical alden bullshit going on. Last stock in what i thought was my size and I don't go there very often so I grabbed them like an impatient moron.
Now it just sits in the pile of unwearable shoes because it was, in fact, not my last. It was a pair of shell boots too to add salt to wound. If I lived in a non-shithole country I'd sell them.

I've heard similar from those that buy in person in the US; flaws that only are made apparent when they get home etc.
But at least there's a retail presence.
I'd kill for access to decent shoe shops to be able to try shit on and not just order and hope it all goes well.

>Saphir for cxl
interesting.

>>14344552
I have been burned twice by Allen Edmonds. First time I figured it was just a fluke and the blemish was really minor. Ordered another pair almost a year later and they were just as bad.

AE got sold a few years ago and that's when the decline happened. They're cutting corners and not caring. They as a brand are dead to me. Luckily I've moved on and Crockett and Jones is my go-to for dress shoes now.

Where can a man get a good pair of cowboy boots like these? Love these.

>>14344552
What country are you from?

>>14344289
I remember reading something which was apparently a quote from, or just someone quoting, one of the Horween guys about CXL and how that there aren't different tiers or grades.
It's fucking bullshit if that was a true thing and not just something my mind's invented.
The viberg cxl is thick. the Alden might as well be paper thin by comparison. Regardless, it's the job of the clicker to cut out shitty parts of the leather, regardless of the weight.
Alden just penny pinches to get the most from every hide I guess.

>>14340101
seconding this. fredericci and lederarsenal seem to be the only places to get good jackboots in the antique style, but varustaleka makes a pretty plain motorcycle boot fpr quite cheap, albiet with pebbled chrome tanned leather and direct moulded soles

>>14344280
i like these a lot

im this guy >>14344136
thanks for the help, I ended up getting the iron rangers. goddamn they look and feel good. idk what it was about the mocs but they were absolutely killing my feet. the IR feel much, much better.

>>14344264
thanks for the read, anon. i made a note of what you said on my phone for future reference.

tfw no custom spokane loggers
boot stipend and OT/hpay when

>>14344136
Holy fuck he actually read the sticky

>>14344820
crazy huh?

>>14344684
good choice anon! american made can't go wong!

Any places to get a pair of boots in Osaka?

>>14345385
visvim lol

are something like austrian meme boots or american jump boots even possible to pull off? I feel like they would just end up looking super cringy, but I really like the shape of them.

>>14345568
very ez to pull off if you don't look like a soiboi

>>14345568
Nope. You'll look like a school shooter every single time.
You fucking faggots don't realize that and end up looking retarded

>>14339478
bonglander here
any cheap mostly waterproof boots for when I walk my dog?

>>14342167
Only the first models. Mk2 models had straight lacing

Does anybody know anything about these Italian Para boots? I really like shape but I can't find any that are smaller than size 13 US.

>>14345568
they're fine
you're not tucking your fucking pants into them like a ww2 paratrooper so they'll just look like whatever boots anyway
if you are intending to tuck, then I'd suggest you reconsider
unless you're like that /fa/ oldfag with all the mil-styled outfits
koch?
(cock?)
whatever, i forget.
him
and that's a carefully cultivated image;
if you're not already doing that and have something in mind (the fact you're asking at all means no) it's just you playing dress up mil-larping like a dunce

Should I?

should I go for em fellas?

lads whats an entry level pair of boots? i wanna try styling them, doc martens were the obvious go to but theyre expensive so uh yeah help

>>14346841
>>14340226

>>14346853
thanks, but is £300 considered entry level?

>>14346841
>so uh yeah
You can fuck right off back to rebbit

but also
>>14346853

>>14346841
Try your local army surplus store

>>14346906
sorry bro lmao... ill be sure to be concise next time you fucking faggot

>>14346309
i can't think of anyone who would look good in these
only micky rourke or nic cage in their total "beyond giving a fuck" modes maybe

>>14346868
>£
rw isn't good value where you are.
lucky for you england has a much greater range of actually decent shoemakers than the US's paltry few.
still, the cheapest for where you are that aren't a totally shit waste of money's probably going to be solovair (aka docs that are made in england - search the thread for them).
if docs are expensive for you, there's really nothing cheaper that's worth bothering with desu
it's all going to be pretty shoddy glued together fastfashion crap that will look shit in short order
it might still look okay superficially for fits etc., but no one's going to recommend it to you
when people ask for "entry level" something, it's implied that it's entry level "good", skipping all the payless-shoes tier made in chink bootlets

up your budget rather than waste money on thrifty junk
it's really just not worth it

>>14346628
nise

>be manlet
>wanna wear boots
>dont cuz people will think i just buy em to look taller

fuck

>>14347317
just own it bro lol
t. 5'8 and wear my iron rangers with gym shorts because its comfy

>>14347323
Look how fucking disgusting Docs look. Yuck

>>14347323
>ISHIGGYNIGGITY

>>14347323
>boots with shorts
based

Anybody have any experience with Grenson boots?
Also, how many of you actually use shoe trees?

I remember in another thread someone who bought brand new boots wanted a solution to make them look worn and another posted comented saying he shouldnt and should just be patient and let the leather tell it's own story. In my opinion screw that. Any new shoes I've gotten oveer the past few years I've gone to town on, smashed and banged them up right out of the box. I personally can't handle the look of new shoes, it needs imperfections and marks otherwise to me it just looks goofy. Am I alone in this?

>>14347572
Autism

>>14347317
You're wearing boots not platform shoes you moron.
There's plenty of boots with a sole no different than a shoe ie. not particularly thick or high.
I'm seeing thick as fuck soles on those chunky meme dadcore sneakers all niggers wear these days.
now that's manlet wigger core

>>14347572
>screw that
don't worry, anon, mommy won't hear you swearing here.

Can I RIT dye some suede boots?
What are the consequences.

>>14347918
won't work use a marker dye

>>14347918
suede specifically cannot be dyed like that, it just will not absorb it

>>14347618
Explain?

>>14347566
>Anybody have any experience with Grenson boots?
I have no experience, but I chose not to. I dunno if much has changed in the 5 or so years since I last looked at them, but I remember how they shifted production to india about a decade or more ago or whatever and quality dropped like a stone, same as their reputation. They used to be quite well regarded back in the day, particularly their Rose line. Long gone days.

At my last cursory glance they didn't look too bad, except for that funky triple welt business I can't get my head around, but if they're charging made in england prices when an unknown amount of production is made in pooland and only shipped to england "for finishing" or whatever, then I'd avoid desu senpai.

Same situation as barker.
Barker and grenson, two peas in the outsourcing pod.
Maybe they're actually decent? If the price is right then sure, but I personally would have issues if the price is not right and not all that different from say Sanders or Loake's 1880 line (the entry level cutoff for actual MiE footwear not counting Solovair and William Lennon). As I said, I've not glanced at them in a while and haven't kept up with the gos out of the northamptonshire microcosm.

>Also, how many of you actually use shoe trees?
From what I remember seeing of shoe collection threads on here, I'd say that almost everyone with decent shoes uses them.

It's sorta mandatory at some point. When you start paying material sums for non-disposable footwear it's a given, really, like rotation and conditioning.
Part and parcel of owning fine footwear is that you want to take care of it to last; don't have to go overboard like some faggots out there, but just enough maintenance as is necessary to not wreck shit and come off as a neglectful slob.

If you're in the US (or even if you're not) Sierra trading post used to have the decent shit: cedar shoetree pairs at discount. 2nds grade, not that it really seems to have made a difference. Dunno if they still sell that.
I'd say cedar is the best because it inherently has a nice smell.

When I was in middle to highschool, I only had one pair of uniform school shoes that I changed every year or so or whatever. All of us did that. And fuck did our feet fucking smell. That's every day of the week except saturday. Whole boarding houses of sweaty teenaged feet (I don't recall the girls having this problem, I was not footfag, but I guess they weren't fucking feral and actually changed their socks regularly unlike the rest of us).

If someone had told me
>hey you little faggot, next term bring TWO pairs of school shoes and your shoes won't fucking reek half way through term
I'd have done so. If I'd known that shoe tress would've helped the shoes last longer I probably would've used them too.

Hence: shoetrees in the pair you wore today, wear the fresh other pair of shoes tomorrow. Rotation.

>>14347109
thanks dude, ill buy some solovairs

>>14348115
Grenson g2 are made in India. They are good when on sale, which is at least twice a year. Some are corrected leather others nice calf.

G1 are entirely made in England. The quality is at least as good as Tricker's.

Boooooooooooooots

>>14339581
i dig. i dont know why everyone hates. besides the logo they are neat.
>>14342101
nope, they have a decent shape and heel for a low budget price compared to other cheap heeled boots like cheap fast fashion chelseas.

How alpha do I have to be to wear these? I'm about to pull the trigger and cop them

>>14349019
Lol. Ok.

>>14349020
where 2 buy cuban heel boots in europe?

Best budget option for Europeans thats not Doc Martens or Solovairs? Is it Red Wings? Theyre still a bit expensive for my taste

Thoughts on Chippewa? Thinking of some oxblood service boots

>>14349438
Good starter boots. Nothing special but they're durable and will last as long as you take care of them

>>14349020
It's more do you want to deal with that large offset heel.

I've been wearing the same pair of docs since high school and need to upgrade to a less memey (and hopefully less clunky) boot. Mostly just casual wear with black jeans. Any suggestions? Female if it matters

>>14350304
Maybe try rag& Bone or Acne Studios, on Sale

>>14347566
>Also, how many of you actually use shoe trees?
Please, please do not spend more than 200 on a pair of shoes or boots and NOT use shoe trees.

Thoughts on these before I cop, all I want is a G fitting black Chelsea for everyday wear and literally cannot find anything else

>mfw I sized down and Creepers still didn’t fit

:(

someone buy these beauties off me

>>14350681
Loake Chatsworth.

>>14350681
Isn't G just regular width?
And the boots in your pic look fine but RM Williams is nicer imo

>>14350304
>and hopefully less clunky) boot. Mostly just casual wear with black jeans
Black Chelseas, preferably from RM Williams if you can get a hold of them. There are women's specific styles that are sleeker than the men's ones as an option if you don't like the standard line.

>>14350748
G width is wide fit in England, F is standard. G is "standard" specifically for RMW, where F is narrow and H is wide (and X is made for literal savages from New Guinea and the Torres Strait that didn't grow up with shoes because barefoot running through the jungle all day erryday like that pic of the au naturel feetses above with the gnarly splayed d toes)

>>14350681
Same for you: RM Williams are the best looking Chelseas without paying fashion house prices. (although, their pricing has gone way fucking up compared to what I remember holy shit).
Why: (subjective)
I prefer the style of the elastic gores on the rm's more. This holey, honeycomb thing the one in your pic has looks too busy; detracts from the overall sleek and smooth silhouette of the boot.
(objectively)
The one piece leather construction is superior to this multi piece of leather type used from Sanders (and lesser makes) all the way up to the likes of Edward Green and John Lobb (Paris).
(rm's don't have the stitch under the elastics because it's one piece of leather).
Technically a more difficult construction to do, hence why so few makers bother to do it (even the likes of Green and Lobb-Paris don't bother).
It's technically a more sound construction since it's one piece and not multiple pieces stitched together; every stitch is a potential weak point.

That being said, if you were presented with the 500$ rm's and a pair of chelseas from eg or jl(p) that retail for well over 1000, you'd be a fool not to take the latter because they more than make up for this "technicality" in other ways, one of which being leather quality.
Rm's leather quality isn't as good as it was like 20-30 years ago. It seems to get worse all the time.
The ones older relatives have are still good. Ones I bought a decade ago aren't as good as the old stuff. The stuff today is, I think, lesser still.

>>14350951
>>14350681
Top shoemakers in the world like Edward Green and John Lobb(Paris) are top because, amongst other things, they fork out the cash to get the decent hides which isn't in great supply.
Bovine leather is a byproduct of the meat industry.
Cows of today compared to yesteryear are fed hormones so that they grow fat and meaty in record time, this makes for low quality hide compared to "back in the day", hence maker's have to pay more for the top quality leather that doesn't come from sped grown animals.
RM Williams, like most bootmakers in the world, don't do this. EG and JLp do, and they charge for it.

Regardless, if you're not looking at the highest end of factory made Chelseas, I still recommend RMW over the competition.
The only other makers I can think of that do a one piece Chelsea are JM Weston and SLP, and I'm not sure if the latter still bother. Either way they cost way more than RMW.

I for one cannot stand that fucking stitch. I can't unsee it. I'll look at EGs and JLPs and others and know that, really, they're better crafted overall but the stitch is *there*, so obvious and in your face ruining the sleekness of what should be the sleekest of short boots.
Still, whether or not rm's are worth it these days compared to the absolute steal they were in years past is another debate.

Note: there are a few other Australian brands that do a one piece, and they're cheaper than RMW, but they're not so easy to get a hold of even if you're in Australia let alone outside of it. RMW is a better make by comparison though. The others skimp in certain ways.

>>14349394
pls respond

>>14349394
>>14350956
I don't know how much RW costs in yurp, probably a lot because of those shitty 20%+++ taxes you have, but the only shoemakers that come to mind are the other English makes. Though even the shittier tiers of those will cost a little to a lot more than Solovair.
(Barker, Grenson, Loake etc., etc. Sanders, Cheaney, Trickers and up $^$^$^$).
They're also generally not like the american boots in styling. English boots are generally more "country" style. English countryside style ie. brogued boots with leather soles. The market's changing, and the english makers have seen what's being memed around the world though.

Americana workwear style always seems more casual to me, easier to pull off.

There's also William Lennon in England. About the same as the general list price of Solos. Only problem is that they're usually MTO and, well, read up on them to see the mixed reviews (basically, if they get it right it's great, if they don't you have to do the waiting game for them to rectify shit). Look them up. Work boots and not the usual "country gentry" type you get from the other shoemakers in England.

I don't know the euro shoes scene so well, only generalities that the actually "made in europe not counting romania but maybe counting portugual (and even then..)" ones cost a lot and most of everything on the market is a third world import of low quality and dubious value.

Guess that's why shit like docs and solo's are so popular; they're a known quantity compared all the generic, OEM footwear available.

Do you have Geox? Made wherever but they're good for summer...

>>14350708
Have the Limo version of these. They’re ridiculously difficult to put on because they are so narrow at arch.

>>14351097
there's a Red Wing store in Berlin

>>14350708
What size are you?

>>14350748
>>14350951
>>14350955
Thanks for the responses, I went ahead and copped the Sanders so I'll see if I can post pics here at some point/do a brief review

I looked into RM Williams but 1. too pricy for student budget, particularly for what'll be A/W beaters essentially (was wanting mid-tier quality for <£250 or so) and 2. The shape of the last just really didn't appeal, I have to say. The toe profile on some of the models was much too square and shaped for my liking, and the double pull-tag was a bit much too

I don't mind about the side seam at all desu, as long as the upper front is all good

Any anons have experience with Visvim Virgils? Are they worth the price point?

On the other hand, posers smoking from Margiela tabis. Such an "avant-garde" aesthetic.

formal mutant ninja fuccbois

any thoughts on CK 205W39NYC chelseas

bruh shoutout to Raf for making CK great again. Will definitely miss him fr

love the metal toe cap details. I believe there are 2 versions for those

Vetements ring ankle boots go MAD hard from the back view

YSl wyatt sizing help for a 9.5?

*YSL fk

For SLP boots I would go one size down, leather does stretch over time.

>>14351610

The boots are a 39, my size depends on the footwear.

What are you asking for as a point of reference? My normal Nike size? My Ramones size?

Thorogood beloit

What are some good boots that don't have contrast stitching? i.e. Black stitching on black boots, brown stitching on brown boots, etc.

>>14350681
Tried these on, the heel is enormously wide in these. If you literally have blocks of concrete for feet these might fit you.

I'd definitely check out Loake for G-fit chelsea boots. Maybe Solovair.

years later, still waiting for something similar to these for less than 300 dollars

its honestly obnoxious that something so seemingly simple does not exist

>>14339499
bellstaff

After 6 years of hard abuse, reconditioning, and new laces my IR amber harnesses were retired. Not by my choice either as they got stolen from my porch steps while I left for an hour. I miss them but they were on their way out anyways. They were my intro to welted footwear. So I'm thinking of getting another pair and everyone here seems to agree on whites. Thinking of getting waxed cinnamon leather. Thoughts?

>>14354052
How melanin enriched must your neighborhood be for someone to steal a pair of boots from your porch

>>14354069
Very :c

Tell me about shell cordovan.
I've heard people who swear by it, love the shine and think it's as good as it gets for leather.
I think it looks plasticky and too informal, don't like how it doesn't stretch so sizing must be perfect, and other issues like welting in the rain and non-breathability.
Can someone with some shell pieces tell me what you like about it and what the appeal is?

>>14354052
Who the fuck would steal boots off a porch? How would the niggers that stole it even know they fit them?
Where do you live that feral niggers like that just prowl around stealing fucking boots of all things off porches

>>14350956
Just go to army surplus store

https://medium.com/@deancasalena/how-to-buy-a-pair-of-mens-boots-781cf36e7a35
Stumbled upon this funny story of a boot virgin trying to navigate the boot world and figure out how to buy a pair. Thought it was pretty relatable

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>>14339478
would get into berghain
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>>14339581
would not get into berghain

Bump

my Clarks

I love them and they get a lot of compliments at work

>>14355309
cool

>>14355327
thanks

they were a bitch to break in but they are now comfy as slippers.

Only thing I am still unsure of with these boots is whether thats a genuine goodyear welt or a fake.

>>14350681
>>14353887

Anon with the Sanders Chelsea here - they arrived today and I'm a little concerned with the fit. My right foot is a little bigger than the left, and whilst the right foot fits alright (just tight enough to break in, good width thanks to the G fitting), the left is slipping a little in the heel. Usually one could simply lace the boot a little tighter, but of course these are Chelseas - I suspect the heel is a little wide for my feet, and they're just a touch loose around the top of the boots. The slip itself isn't that bad when walking around (on the whole), but there's certainly not much resistance when sitting down and flexing the foot - maybe about a half inch of movement or so

I've looked around online for how to approach this, with some saying 'they just need to break in, a little heel slippage is normal and will disappear with wear' (although obviously I don't want to wear them so hard I can't return them), and others saying that it won't get any better and to return them. I'm not sure sizing down would help either, as they both fit ideally in a more general sense, the toes/ball being exactly where they need to be. Should I send them back? Do heel pads/insoles/tongue inserts help with this?

What do /boots/?

>>14346293
just look up m1943s

>>14352818
nice shape, patent leather not nice (that's my personal preference though.)

>>14355353
>Only thing I am still unsure of with these boots is whether thats a genuine goodyear welt or a fake.
Does the stitch go all the way through to the sole bottom? They don't look bad really.

>>14354202
>Can someone with some shell pieces tell me what you like about it and what the appeal is?
Honestly? I don't really know.
Come november I'll have my 7th pair. Functionally, only 3/6 that I have are actually wearable by me because of my fucking feet. It's a long tale of woe and wasted money that I'll not bore you with that people with "normal" feet that can be easily sized won't relate to. You do need to be spot on sizing shell though as you say because it doesn't stretch, not to mention the whole business with lasts.

I suppose every pair I've bought is in a way me trying to get the pair that I really wanted that didn't work out for me:
the J.Crew Alden col.8 jumper boot. Brogued captoe, ankle boot in that aubergine col.8 Alden has.
Something about that boot made me really want it, even before I even knew what shell was.
I saw pics of a pair that had lightened up with time that made me want them even more. Come nov. I'll finally have a similar makeup in a last that actually fits, which I'm rather ecstatic about.

I like the idea that shell can last "a lifetime" or more, that bovine and other leathers will dry and crack and will be long unwearable before shell is fit for the hoboheap.
Look at threads online of people finding basically antique shell shoes from long dead makers like Florsheim and the like (it is dead; new florsheim is shit, and not real florsheim) and resurrecting them into some kind of phoenix shoe - they're usually old american longwing brogues, "gunboats".
Can't do that with other leather.

Others dry out when you don't take care of them periodically and since all leather creases, all leather will crack one day one day in those creases; it's simply a question of how long you have before they do. Shell isn’t a leather but a membrane under the skin and doesn’t have that crinkle creasing that leathers do. I've got a bullhide belt I've not worn in 15 years or so. I found it in the closet yesterday. I believe it's called "dry rot", either way it's fucked and unrecoverable.

Not to say that with proper care and a decently sized rotation you probably could have other leather shoes last a "lifetime", but it's simply the notion that shell doesn't necessarily need this care I find appealing. My father's rotation of shoes (the man's never owned one pair of sneakers in his life) have mostly lasted 30-40 years or so due to good general maintenance, but I’ve see the cracks on some of the more frequently worn pairs and the cracks in older pairs he hasn’t worn in a while that have just been sitting in the basement. Shell doesn't crease, so shell doesn't crack.
Other shit can happen to it sure, but not the most common reason for shoe death that kills all other leather footwear in time.
I find this appealing.

I do like the patina aspect. Though I don’t have anything lighter than col.8 (the navy pair of Trickers not withstanding). Black shell, to my understanding, doesn’t really change. Maybe it does, though I have never seen it. Perhaps prolonged UV light might lighten it a little, but it’s likely not going to look like black museum calf.

The lighter colours (and aged col.8 for that matter) have seem to have this inner glow under sunlight that I don’t notice in other leathers. The lighter browns especially. And, despite any patina that may develop over time with light exposure and wear, shell footwear always looks sora “new” because of the no creases thing. New but old at the same time.

Black shell does look more plasticised than anything else. At a distance you can’t really see the difference, if not for the crease issue, between black shell and a pair of say Docs with that plasticised leather or that shit that Church’s uses but charges a premium for, “bookbinder” leather they call it.
Nevertheless, a lot of people buy black shell footwear. I only have that one pair and I won’t be buying any more I think.

The waterspot issue does annoy me, though not as much as it did when I got my first pair.
I use that alden leather defender stuff to guard against random splashes etc.
I tend not to wear my shell during the rainy season.

I was caught out unexpectedly once during a demonstration of a product and I happened to be wearing my black shell boots. Had to slosh through the mud during a light rain to get to the target site and didn’t want to look like a fucking prissy pussy in front of the troops and say “yeah sorry I can’t go I don’t want to get spots on these shoes which cost more than you make in several months” . Mind you I am a pirssy pussy that didn’t want to get his precious prissy pussy boots wet, but needs must. My feet were dry and clean though, so ultimately they served their purpose. I’ve been less anal about the whole spotting thing since.
Shell is meant to be a hardy leather. I mean it was favoured by (some) tradesmen and soldiers back in the day when dead horse was much more readily available.

That pair cleaned up alright, and the spots that did appear faded in due time.
The spotting and fading of the welts is not consistent across all pairs. Nobody knows why this happens, and why it’s not consistent shell to shell.

I do know that the navy shell used by trickers, which is not horween (might’ve been italian or japanese) spotted and didn’t recover for weeks. Had to take that fucking deer bone to them to get them to go down. Maybe I was just impatient. I’ve not looked at that pair in a few years.

>>14355794
I’ve heard that the horween stuff, apart from being considered the the best there is in general in regards to shell, spots less and the spots fade sooner compared to the stuff coming out of few other tanneries that still produce shell.

On breathability, I mean, I’m in the tropics most of the time except the few business trips to colder places, and indeed my feet are hotter than if I were to wear a sneaker with perforations, but I don’t really notice it so much. I mean to say that it doesn’t bother me. To each their own though.
I know that a lot of the old fart guard types on forums like Ask Andy (and the fedora lounge) relegate their shell to autumn/winter wear only though.
I have them so I’m going to wear the fucking things.

Finally there’s the elusive aspect surrounding “exclusivity”.
I mean despite whoever might have used it in the past, there’s no denying that today it’s “more special” than standard bovine.
In fact the term “Cordswainer” (the proper name for a Bootmaker), denoted someone who had the right to make boots out of cordovan – the guilds didn’t just allow any old craftsman to handle that stuff.

It is some kind of apotheosis of shoe “leathers” (despite not being one), no I wouldn’t say so. That same argument could be made for something like crocodile (or even maybe kangaroo considering it’s strengths, which are overlooked – suppose it’s the crinkly look that puts people off).

Some fags online buy into the alden generated hype with all those “rare” shell colours – all the lighter colours.
It’s a bit much really, like the worst of the hypebeasts out there, but there are those in every niche of fashion (and everything else consumable really). That “exclusive” factor does play into it though, not gonna lie. Anyone who denies this is lying.
Whether you care whether or not some garden variety pleb can tell the difference between your shells and a pair of plastic shoes is up for you to decide though.

>>14355799
One horse had to die for me to get my boots.
You only get one pair of shells off a horse; one enough for each shoe.
A cow can make multiple pairs of shoes, belts wallets whatever.
And as I mentioned in a post up thread, the quality of cow leather’s declined due to rushed growth.
No one feeds hormones to speed grow a horse for meat and so the quality of the shell should, in theory, be unadulterated just like back in the day. I like this aspect.

Worth and value are for you to decide.
I would say though: if you don’t already want them, don’t bother.
I am jaded and cynical though.
I’ve got all these fucking shoes and I’ve got to maintain all these fucking shoes.
Earlier on I didn’t mind so much.
But as the grind of work and daily life gets heavier with every year I just can’t be fucked looking after my shit as much as I used to want to, when I was a carefree student that had the time to obsess over all the little details.
When you own fine things you owe it to yourself to care for those fine things.
If you’re interested in a pair, get one, and get yourself sized well.
I feel for this guy >>14355540 because that’s exactly the sort of dilemma that’s lead me to having a truly a vast number of shoes and boots that I can’t fucking wear, 3 or which are shell cordovan which as you know isn’t exactly cheap.

Right-o, i've procrastinated enough for one night.

TL;DR
Dunno lol

>>14355804
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>>14355787
This is the most based reply I've gotten in one of these threads. Thanks for taking the time to type that out and thank you for your insight

>>14339906
So where do I buy those solovair in Europe? Also do they make something like the 1461?

And why the fuck doesn't dr martens make mono 1461 rounded toes like the original? All I see are mono with ugly pointed toes :/

These were being shilled in another thread. Anyone have opinions on them? I need a good light boot that doesn't look as LARPy as combat boots nor as bulky. I basically just want blundstone boots without the feminine connotations where I live.

>>14356209
It isnt the first time, think he's some dude selling shoes on ebay.

I own two pairs of palladium, one of them black leather but not the same model as yours.
They're pretty decent for the money and is more on the smaller side when it comes to shape. Of course, they arent of the same quality as a pair of 250 dollar boots, but they'll last you many years if you do basic maintenance.

>>14346628
ID?

>>14356222
Alright, cool. Thank you for the info

>>14355540
Heel slip is normal in the small foot

>>14347323
you never learn

I'm gonna cop a pair of Thursday captains. Some in here say they're not the best. But atm I've got 1 pair of beater converse that I always wear with black skinnys. Have a budget of about $1200 for new wardrobe atm so gonna get these, look into 1-2 pairs of jeans (one black, one dark blue) basic vans, haven't put much thought into shirts/jackets yet. But we're coming into winter here so I'd want some decent outerwear.
Back to the boots tho. For someone definitely not /fa/, I feel like they might be a decent entry level way to up my style a little bit past old dirty sneakers. Can't exactly justify dropping 500 on some new boots when the rest of my wardrobe isn't up to scratch.

>>14356222
My Palladiums have lasted about a year and a half/2 years. They're specifically my work boots now for bar work. Get and absolute thrashing getting soaked in water/beer/spirits. Just check em in the wash every few weeks and they're fine. Definitely have some character to them tho. The inner sole is getting a bit worn so I'm just gonna get some inserts soon. Sort from that, I've definitely got my money's worth out of them

got some new corcorans today, should I keep them shiny or dull them a little?

>>14356735
Well, those look better than Docs at least. You have to start somewhere, and it is never too late to start wearing boots.

>>14356758
My ex wanted me to get docs. Defs not my style. I'm done buying $60 shoes from some random outlet, but not quite ready to be dropping $400 a pair so I think these are a good middle ground.

>>14356768
Then get them, what are you waiting for.

>>14356735
>dark blue jeans in 2019

lmao

>>14356768
allen edmunds has some nice boots on clearance for around $250 right now, I'm not sure for how long but I'd suggest going into a store and trying some shoes on to see what size/last you want and looking on their website. if they do t have your size in clearance, factory seconds are also good, especially for black.

>>14356826
Ah, Allen Edmonds. Don't expect anything great. I don't even think AE even checks their final product before sending it out the door.

>>14356960
they're a lot better than thursday, and the blemishes on factory seconds aren't noticable. original price isn't worth it though.

Summer boot recs? A quick google search show Chukkas, any other recs?
Whats a decently price boot for starters?

>>14357081
250 US

>>14356735
Buying thursdays is a waste of money. Don't fall for the shill, they've been more active lately.
Buy virtually anything else, particularly if it's cheaper, and at least you won't be disappointed. I recommend never to skimp on footwear if you can. Hold out with what you have until you can get something you like that's actually worth your money as this brand does not deserve it.

>>14356735
Don't get vans

>>14357140
Can you give me any reasons why they aren't worth it?
I really like 2 of their styles; they're within my budget rn, and this is the only place I've heard really negative things about them. I'm trying to avoid being influenced by the YouTube influencer reviews though, the videos hype em up but there's also heaps of positive comments

>>14356801
what else?

>>14356977
Every AE I have ordered has had problems. I'm not going to buy them ever again.
But like you said, if they're on sale go for it. Both my pairs were on sale

>>14357485
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Thursday cuts every corner imaginable to cut costs. It's not real CXL leather, it's their rip-off version that creases easier and gets loose grain. It's not real Dainite soles,it's their rip-off version that's softer and wears faster. Rather than pay Americans and keep production in the US they are made it Mexico so they don't have to pay people very much to make them.
Fuck Thursday, they're a shitty company and I can not in good conscience support them. When they were a new company they had a shill campaign that 5 starred them on every site imaginable, had all the YouTube retards shill them by sponsoring their videos. It was so bad that you couldn't take what anyone said about them at face value. They got called out on it and stopped and things settled down, but fuck Thursday is a shady shitty company.

>>14356753
I dulled mine a little, they are still quite shiny after, but not extremely reflective as they are right out of the box.

>>14357485
You'll be lucky if they last a year before the sole starts to separate from the uppers.
>the videos hype em up but there's also heaps of positive comments
Positive comments are easily bought.
Go to leddit (yes). Go to the sub called r/goodyearwelt or even the buyitforlife sub and do a search on thursday and read about the bullshittery so many other buyers have had to put up with.
If you still wish to buy after that then go ahead.
Don't say you weren't warned though.

>>14339653
didn't try size down but 44 is kinda big for me and my size is about 44,5
will keep these because i can't send them for swap right bow

>>14349020
it's not that tall, only took a couple days to get used to me wyatts

>>14357490
There's hundreds of other types of pants.

>>14356753
Dull them.

>>14356753
>>14357526
>>14357711
How does one dull these?

Oak street lakeshores in black cxl. Going for an all black erythin aesthetic. Cop, or? Ip range is blocked so cant post pic.

>>14357855
there's a few ways. the way you're supposed to do it, and what I'm gonna do, is with deglazer to strip the outer protective layer, and another layer of polish. you can also use acetone but I've heard that's risky, or extremely fine steel wool (the finest stuff you can get is actually used for buffing leather, so get a range of ones just slightly rougher and try them).

>>14358413
Black CXL is trash. It's only top dyed so as soon as it gets any scuffs at all the brown underneath shows. Black on brown looks really bad.
Look for something dyed all the way through, something oil tanned

>>14357523
>>14357623
Aight.
I'm still yet to make a final decision. Are there any other brands you'd recommend checking out that have similar styles? I like the lower profile soles of the Thursdays compared to chunkier boots. Thursday's are around $200 in Aus, but my budget can go up $300 if I find something I really love. I've looked at redwing and the Iron rangers and blacksmiths have a similar appeal to me. Worth the extra money?

>>14339478
vintage early 90's Men's -Craddock-Terry- Military spec boots. "New Old Stock'. Black leather - Steel toe Chukka. 10 R. USA

>>14358566
For 300 just get some Red Wings. You can some Blacksmiths which are excellent

>>14358599
>>14357623
Well now i know its $375 aud for international shipping with the exchange rate.
defs not worth it now. Guess i can rule out thursdays as a cheaper option

>>14358613
Oh shit, forgot you're Aussie. blacksmiths are 300USD
I mean, Thursdays aren't terrible, I'd just always remember that I could have had Red Wings if I saved just a little more

>>14358621
I just much prefer the slimmer toe/sole profile of thursdays which im struggling to find elsewhere that i like. I'm 6 foot 2 and pretty skinny so i dont want anything too chunky.

>>14343947
It’s still hideous m8, whoever told you it’s ok to have a 1/2 inch rubber sole on dealer or Chelsea boots is fucking crazy and without taste

>>14358613
just get some 'roo hide boots ya cunt

>>14358664
I'm 6'2" and skinny as well. It's more about how big your feet are than anything. If you have tiny feet like me the red wings look fine. If you have huge feet they'll look look like clown flippers

>>14350955
would you say 450 aud for a pair of rmwilliams from a 3rd party seller is a good deal?

>>14339499
what model bike is that?

>>14358787
looks like a cafe racer style bonneville

>>14339478
John Vavatos Six O Six boots. Timeless design, very comfortable and versatile. They are also great for stomping on faggots.

>>14358875
why would you want to stomp on your faggot brothers? Clearly faggot boots.

>>14358613
>>14358664
>>14358566
Don't forget the import tax you have to pay now. Iirc didn't you look se that wonderful "no tax if <1000AUD" thing?
That was a great advantage considering Australia's absolutely buttraping retail pricing on all manner of shit. Insulting to go in to a Meyer and find some cheapo chink made textile junk being sold for 300% over what they're sold for online (which is itself already a ripoff) . Fuck that crap.
Was going to suggest you look up the local Redwing dealer (there's a shop in Melbourne Iirc) to see how the prices compare. I have a feeling though that even with whatever fee they tack on at customs these days it's probably still cheaper to order from overseas. Dunno. You can do the calcs.

Have you ever looked at the Indonesian boot makers? They gained some small repute a few years back following in the wake of the whole viberg service boot buzz a few years ago. They're much cheaper than viberg of course. Whether or not they're any good is another matter. Look them up and have look to see what the word on the street is about them is these days. I bought a lower tier pair of sagaras I think they were that I happened to find locally for cheap. They were pretty basic, but sound in constructuon. They cemented my decision to fork out for a pair of vibergs in the end.
>santalum
>sagara
There's probably more brands now, and it's been a while since I looked so the prices no doubt would've gone up.

>>14358759
As good a deal as any as you'll get these days I think. Remember: RM Williams recently raised their own retail pricing to 600AUD(!).
It's especially ridiculous for me as I can remember when they could be had for way less. Like half the price ffs. And it's not like they've gotten any better in quality. This price is inching too close to the reputable English shoemakers (and say, Carmina in Spain) for my liking. But they do have that special construction.
A$450 they're still okay imo; worried pressure to increase price by rmw.

>>14358787
Triumph Bonneville

I've never worn boots before but. Is it dumb getting boots (8 in) if you're always having the pant covering the ankle? Can I do that or what other type of shoe do I wear

should i ironically cop these docs?

>>14359243
no
non-black docs look gay.
maybe only the burgundy like color ones get a pass

Best boots I've ever owned, and they're dirt cheap from amazon too.

>>14359405
What are they?

>>14359478
Fucking trash

>>14342426
Iron rangers are the most onions boot ever, followed by docs

>>14359405
Bam-Margera-core

>>14359036
depends on your style and where you are in the world. if you're not in the southern hemisphere ir a place that's warm enough for light sweaters in the next few months, wait untill the fall. if you wear slimmer pants, make sure the boots look good with them, so either try them on first or if you're buying online try on something similar in a store first.

>>14359521
Docs aren't onions. They're edgy wannabe Nazi lesbian punk. They make you look 16

>>14356209
I was the one who started that thread. They showed up just now. I'm pretty happy with them. They're more solid than I thought they'd be. A good way to put it is like 60:40 boot:sneaker. The laces are a bit long, but I like the wrap around style anyway. They seem like they'll last a while.

>>14359478
These are they

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ankle-Boots-Brown-Leather-Buckle/dp/B00G9Z2TRM/ref=asc_df_B00G9Z2TRM/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=345565539980&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5865598422349722284&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046449&hvtargid=pla-709076203658&psc=1

>>14359703
Yeah I'll pass on those thanks

>>14358904
>>14358599
>>14357623
So I've looked into red wings and I'm really liking these ones, black iron rangers. Similar vibes to the captains. They're 485 AUD online, where as Thursday's would be 375 AUD delivered.
Idk how I feel about dropping $400+ on boots right now when I still have to build the rest of my wardrobe. With the captains and these iron rangers in mind, are there any other alternatives relevant to these boots I should check out? If I find something I fall in love with it happily pay 300, but to up that to 485 would be a big step right now.

>>14359722
The Red Wings are worth it. They hold up really well.

Underrated Docs tbqh

>>14359722
If you like Iron Rangers check out the Merchants. They're made from the same last so have the same fit but have a slim profile and no toe bump.
They're my next boot I get

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>>14359832

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Get in here
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>>14359722
most of the clothes you get won't be that nice. unless you want to just buy everything now and wear it for 15-20 years, quality just isn't worth it. boots will fit you no matter what, and classic redwings aren't trendy, so they'll never seem out of style. spend the 485, buy a jacket or 2 for 100-200 each, buy mid tier pants with some elastic, a few nicer shirts, and dirt cheap tee shirts. later you can save up and get some nicer tees when your old ones fall apart, and you can get more pants later to increase variety.

>>14359820
>merchants

>>14359243
>LOL! They look soooo bad but it'll be ebic ironic xDDDDD!!!

>>14343766
I'm German. You sound pretty retarded.

>>14359682
Which ones are these?

>>14360462
Palladium Pallabosse. I just did a bit of work outside to break them in. They're comfortable and easy to clean with a wet rag.

>>14359753
Yep definitely think I'll be going with red wings

>>14359820
Well fuck. These fit my search exactly.
>>14359936
Yeah I'm just starting to build my wardrobe now. Shirts/tees I'm not too fussed about, but coming into winter (aus) I'd like to spend decent on boots, at least 2 pairs of jeans and 1-2 jackets as a base then work off of there