/fa/ - Fashion

10% benzoyl peroxide not doing shit to acne under my bangs, what is the next most aggressive step? At this point willing to toast my skin just to get these specific zits to die

>>14250881
>what is the next most aggressive step
Your immune system.
Leave your skin alone until everything's healed.
No cleansing, no lotion, no water.

>>14250881
Apple cider vinegar solution

Model is Georgie Hobday fyi. She is truly a goth gf.

>>14251117
The perfect women

Does it matter if my skin care shit gets in my hairline? I don’t want to fuck my hair up

Any alcohol free or natural oils you guys can recommend as a moisturizer?

>>14251597
No it wont hurt

Lasers are the best way to deal with acne scars? My skin is not that bad but these holes fucks me

>>14253343
This also I really really want to know.....

>>14253343
Why get rid of them? Scars are cool...

Is using a moisturizer with sunscreen components any different to using them separately? How dry should the moisturizer be before applying a sunscreen otherwise?

>>14253804
I use then combined. Feels weird layering two creams.

Has anyone used 3 Little Wonders? Is it worth the price?

Breaking out bad for the first time since high school. Been washing my face with cerave oily skin cleanser twice a day and using toner. Benzoyl peroxide has kept the acne in check (until today, apparently) but shit leaves horrible red spots on my face.

What do? Is this because I go to the gym every day now?

>>14250881
Stop using whatever product you're using in your hair, or wash it more often.

People get acne under their bangs because of the grease in their hair or a reaction to product.

NIVEA Creme any good?

should I use sunscreen if I dont spend time under the sun?

I bought 30 tubes of generic .1% retin a and am applying it every other day to half my body.

I tie a plastic ice pack around my face and commence with the morning's stretching exercises. Afterwards I stand in front of a chrome and acrylic Washmobile bathroom sink - with soap dish, cup holder, and railings that serve as towel bars, which I bought at Hastings Tile to use while the marble sinks I ordered from Finland are being sanded - and stare at my reflection with the ice pack still on. I pour some Plax antiplaque formula into a stainless-steel tumbler and swish it around my mouth for thirty seconds

Then I squeeze Rembrandt onto a faux- tortoiseshell toothbrush and start brushing my teeth (too hung over to floss properly - but maybe I flossed before bed last night?) and rinse with Listerine. Then I inspect my hands and use a nailbrush. I take the ice-pack mask off and use a deep-pore cleanser lotion, then an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for ten minutes while I check my toenails. Then I use the Probright tooth polisher and next the Interplak tooth polisher (this in addition to the toothbrush) which has a speed of 4200 rpm and reverses direction forty-six times per second; the larger tufts clean between teeth and massage the gums while the short ones scrub the tooth surfaces. I rinse again, with Cepacol. I wash the facial massage off with a spearmint face scrub.
The shower has a universal all-directional shower head that adjusts within a thirty-inch vertical range. It's made from Australian gold-black brass and covered with a white enamel finish. In the shower I use first a water-activated gel cleanser, then a honey-almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Vidal Sassoon shampoo is especially good at getting rid of the coating of dried perspiration, salts, oils, airborne pollutants and dirt that can weigh down hair and flatten it to the scalp which can make you look older. The conditioner is also good - silicone technology permits conditioning benefits without weighing down the hair which can also make you look older

>>14255123
On weekends or before a date I prefer to use the Greune Natural Revitalizing Shampoo, the conditioner and the Nutrient Complex. These are formulas that contain D-panthenol, a vitamin-B-complex factor; polysorbate 80, a cleansing agent for the scalp; and natural herbs. Over the weekend I plan to go to Bloomingdale's or Bergdorf's and on Evelyn's advice pick up a Foltene European Supplement and Shampoo for thinning hair which contains complex carbohydrates that penetrate the hair shafts for improved strength and shine. Also the Vivagen Hair Enrichment Treatment, a new Redken product that prevents mineral deposits and prolongs the life cycle of hair. Luis Carruthers recommended the Aramis Nutriplexx system, a nutrient complex that helps increase circulation.

>>14255124
Once out of the shower and toweled dry I put the Ralph Lauren boxers back on and before applying the Mousse A Raiser, a shaving cream by Pour Hommes, I press a hot towel against my face for two minutes to soften abrasive beard hair. Then I always slather on a moisturizer (to my taste, Clinique) and let it soak in for a minute. You can rinse it off or keep it on and apply a shaving cream over it - preferably with a brush, which softens the beard as it lifts the whiskers - which I've found makes removing the hair easier. It also helps prevent water from evaporating and reduces friction between your skin and the blade. Always wet the razor with warm water before shaving and shave in the direction the beard grows, pressing gently on the skin. Leave the sideburns and chin for last, since these whiskers are tougher and need more time to soften. Rinse the razor and shake off any excess water before starting. Afterwards splash cool water on the face to remove any trace of lather. You should use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol. Never use cologne on your face, since the high alcohol content dries your face out and makes you look older. One should use an alcohol-free antibacterial toner with a water-moistened cotton ball to normalize the skin.

>>14255126
Applying a moisturizer is the final step. Splash on water before applying an emollient lotion to soften the skin and seal in the moisture. Next apply Gel Appaisant, also made by Pour Hommes, which is an excellent, soothing skin lotion. If the face seems dry and flaky - which makes it look dull and older - use a clarifying lotion that removes flakes and uncovers fine skin (it can also make your tan look darker). Then apply an anti-aging eye balm (Baume Des Yeux) followed by a final moisturizing "protective" lotion. A scalp-programming lotion is used after I towel my hair dry. I also lightly blow-dry the hair to give it body and control (but without stickiness) and then add more of the lotion, shaping it with a Kent natural- bristle brush, and finally slick it back with a wide-tooth comb.

>>14250881
Don't listen to these retards. Tretinoin is what you need.

>>14254938
Even if you stay indoors unless the windows have UV-A filters or the curtains are UV-protective your skin will still be affected by the ultraviolet radiation. So either install those or move to a room that has no natural light or start applying sunscreen. Artificial lights do emit some amount of UV, but at least in the case of flourescent lights those wavelengths get cut out by the coating and generally the intensity is just lower.
The next part of my post is what I posted yesterday on /fit/ and includes some links, you should find it useful in assessing the real damage sun has on you.

You will get damaged indoors as well as glass easily lets UV-A waves through. That bastard even goes through curtains.
It's even worse in cars as usually only the windshield has a UV filter while the rest the windows don't. Pic related is a driver who's left side of the face has been exposed to way more sun than his right simply due to not having UV filters in the rest of his windows. This is real long term sun damage.
https://www.wearshade.com/articles/uv-radiation-through-windows
https://www.skincancer.org/prevention/uva-and-uvb
http://www.skinacea.com/products/sunscreens.html
https://www.thoughtco.com/does-glass-block-uv-light-608316
https://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skincare-advice/sun-care/why-tanning-beds-are-bad-your-skin.html
It should be apparent after reading these that sun is not a friend to your skin and that there's no safe way to tan without damaging something in return. The only way ahead is to embrace paleness.

>>14253532
You've been brainwashed to hate your body.

I usually get these little red bumps all over my body that look like pimples without the white head, then hey dissapear and sometimes leave a dark mark. How do I get this shit to end? I'm like caramel colored btw

>>14256055
Change your bed covers every week if you use pyjamas, every three days if you don't, and change your underwear everyday, this includes t shirts.

>>14256064
thanks anon ill try the bed covers thing

About to use Paula's Choice 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant for the first time today. Is it true that after exfoliating, I have to wait 20-30 minutes before I can moisturize? Or can I just do it immediately?

What body sunscreen do you guys use?

>>14256369
This is where it gets tricky. On Paula's website it says that wait times aren't of much use as long as the products that follow are close to typical facial pH of around 5 or at least of neutral 7.
https://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skincare-advice/basic-skin-care-tips/how-long-to-wait-between-applying-skincare-products.html
The "internet wisdom" however argues that because products like moisturizers may be formulated of different materials with different pH levels that said components can be affected negatively by the presence of a relatively strong acid on the skin's surface.
https://simpleskincarescience.com/ph-acid-mantle/ (this is actually a good read on the matters of pH in skincare regardless of the eventual conclusion)
It should be evident that Paula's article talks how other products may affect their acid exfoliators while the internet skincare gurus talk about the reverse - how acid products affect products that follow suit. It's like both of them are looking from different angles and coming up with different conclusions.
Anyways, in my experience 1% BHA from Paula seemed to pull out blackheads regardless if I waited or applied more stuff on top afterwards. However I haven't tested the long term effects of waiting properly to judge just how better it might be. I also got the AHA gel a few days ago so will probably do the waiting for it as well.
If you have the time it won't hurt to wait the duration before putting anything else on. So I guess applying in the evening would be most opportune.

I hear you're supposed to be gentle when applying eye cream, like using your ring finger. If your skin is that sensitive, how are you supposed to cleanse or moisturize it?

>>14256582
thanks for the thorough response anon. will do it in the evening and wait the 20 mins out.

>>14257291
the same way, slow, gentle, circle motions with your fingertips.

My neck is badly discolored, hyperpigmented. Will any cream do anything or should I see a derm.

>>14257392
Forgot to mention, while this may not necessarily be a good indication but most who are pro-waiting usually say the acids didn't work for them when other products followed suite right away.
>>14257984
Maybe hydroquinone (unless you're in Europe where it's banned due to mercury contained) but better go to a derm.

>>14256025
>desk is in front of a window
Fug

Any Swede posters here?

>>14258201
dunno. why do you ask?

Stopped washing my face 8 days ago.

- Day 1: Extremely oily and had some breakouts.
- Day 2: Same but less.
- Day 3: It calmed down and whatever I got before seems to heal faster than usual.
- Day 4: Starts to get flaky and peel in my t-zone, no new zits though.
- Day 5: Same.
- Day 6: Went to get a haircut, was surprised how much less red my face was looking into the barber's mirror. Washed it lightly with water afterwards though to get rid of any hair.
- Day 7: Had two new whiteheads in the evening, I blame it on the washing. They were small and less visible though since the redness of my face calmed down, and there wasn't any redness around them either.
- Day 8: They pretty much healed on their own. Still flaking.

I wonder if the flaking comes from my skin adapting to the previous routines like exfoliating once per week and overproducing skin cells to make up for it.
Let's see if this calms down over time.
So far I am very pleased with this. Especially my skin not being as oily.

Is it better to pop pimples using a needle once they come to the surface or would it be better to let them naturally fall off after they harden? What's the most sound approach?
>>14259138
Sounds like you have combination skin.
I wouldn't be so content about flakiness because that may be a sign of dehydrated skin at those regions and not just skin getting more dry. For dehydrated skin exfoliation may only be harmful and you're more ought to provide more proper hydration.

My skin is plump after a shower but 1 hour later my pores appear huge. Whats going on?

>>14259465
Yeah if the flakiness persists I'll do something about it but right now I'm experimenting to see where this goes.

From my experience popping pimples is never worth it in the long term even when done "correctly". It may look better short term though.

>>14254902
It's good to use at the end of your routine to keep all the moisture in your skin. I find my skin is more hyrated when I wake up.

>>14250881
>>14254885

This was the problem for me. Had forehead acne from age 14-25. Once I buzzed my hair it all disappeared in a month.

my skin is relatively clear from pimples but usually its very unevenly coloured? certain parts of my face are redder than others. how do i get rid of this? also i have a lot of scars from acne, what can i use to get rid of these?

has anyone seen their wrinkles go away through water/dry fasting, i have been dry fasting 2 days a week and i see that its fixing my acne but my wrinkles are still there. its really disgusting.

>>14259465
something that works best for me is alcohol. no popping needed and no scars. I apply a strong 70% solution on the affected area and everything disappears within 1-2 days. like magic

Any experience with Shiseido Eaudermine? Heard lot of good things about it.

>>14261267
So basically you just dry it out very intensely

no magic there

I've been on the pastebin skincare routine for two days and shit's already so much better I can't fucking believe it

Growing up no one ever taught me how to take care of my face so as faggy as it is, I just wanted to say thanks, 4chan actually helped me.

>>14261406
disinfecting must also be a reason. other drying methods never worked and left red marks

>>14250850
I bought some Shea Butter recently and decided to mix it with olive oil to make it easier to spread on my skin.

I was using it as it came at the store, for my face, but now im having second thought because as it is now it may end up clogging my pores.

thoughts?

>>14261233
I really don't see how fasting can help with wrinkles. If you want to go at them in terms of skincare then it's best to start using hyaluronic acid, retinoids, AHAs or matrixyl or a combination of them. If your skin is dehydrated or you want a near immediate effect then hyaluronic acid is the best option when starting out. While it does fill out wrinkles remarkably well and provide moisturization necessary for restoring normal skin function HA by itself has no long term effect. AHAs can provide a longer effect by exfoliating the top most layer of the skin and also stimulate the production of collagen effectively combating small wrinkles by increasing skin elasticity. The effect isn't as immediate and can take month or more to become apparent. Retinoid provides same benefits as AHAs but is certainly stronger and the use of it can extend up to year until all of the results show up. It's the best anti-aging solution around. As for matrixyl, I'm not too sure about it but it is said to influence skin elasticity long term so should help with wrinkles. Whatever you choose, you must make sure to build a basic skincare routine around these because otherwise you may ruin your skin even more. Sunscreen is even more important because a lot of aging related issues such as wrinkles in a lot of cases are directly directly to UV exposure.

>>14261855
>directly directly to UV exposure
****directly related to UV exposure****

>>14250881
wash your face in the shower after you've rinsed out all your shampoo and conditioner.

>>14253343
>>14253518
>>14253532
get a chemical peel

>>14256025
Don’t the sun’s rays have to hit you directly for your face to sustain damage? So even being near windows without the sun shining through is bad?

>>14261933
"The sun is out today" is the biggest lie out there, even the moon's shine is harmful.

>>14258025
Isn't hydroquinone harsh? Is there any way to use hydroquinone on my neck without irritating it? Do i apply it once a week?

>>14261454
good to hear. happy for you, anon

>>14262034
can you answer my post janny >>14261794

grrrrrr
bitch!

>>14250850
pastebin should just stick to the technical stuff and cut all the lifestyle pontificating. "get enough sleep, exercise, eat better" suffices, no one needs to read all that pretentious shit.

>>14256369
do it immediately

>>14262166
american

>>14261454
What changes did you see? Products?

>>14261794
Shea butter can clog pores because it's high in oleic acid.

>>14262166
>pontificating
it literally only tells you HOW sleep loss changes your looks and what foods that makes acne worse. 0 preaching

>>14261855
t-thank you very much dubsman

>Rosacea on face
Just fucking kill me already

ent_remove npc_14262548

>>14250850
Is the only working way to get rid of acne scars the good ol lazor or can I actually find a cheap work around?

Complete retard here
Can someone let me know if my skin is dry or oily? I’m not quite sure.

>>14263146
Maybe a little dry, you should try aloe vera gel as a moisturiser

Do brown spots from shaving eventually go away?

>many treatments for post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation are banned in the EU
Epic

>>14254841
Sweat from the hair can cause additional acne if your hair is oily. Maybe it's your shampoo or something?

i never see this discussed here but i reckon that this should be its thread
i have super dry lips to the point where i have it full of small wounds, what can i do about it? what are my options?
i have lip balm right in front of me, but i hate the smell and how it feels and also: would i need to apply it several times a day?
what other possibilities are there?

>>14263562
Use aquaphor

>>14263566
some more info about it would be aprecciated, like, is it sold in europe? how many times do you have to use a day? whats the feeling like? does it smell of anything?
thanks anyway

>>14263562
there a chance your allergic to something. i got this when i was using aquafresh toothpaste. now im getting it again when im using colgate withening. didnt get it with normal colgate. try several toothpastes each for a few days and see if it goes away or nah

>>14263562
Vaseline, chemical peel in addition to physical peels were the most helpful. but am still not really satisfied. maybe you're dehydrated or need more days from flax/chia

>>14261454
could u tell what products you're using exactly?
and is your face oily or dry?

Does anyone have the Lab Muffin Guide to Basic Skincare ebook?

>>14261933
UV rays can get reflected from nearby surfaces and effectively expose the skin from below or sides. The percentage reflected depends on the material of the reflector and can range from a few percent to 50 or more in the case of snow. This applies to dispersed light in the shade as well. While the amount isn't as great as getting blasted directly in the sun, still any amount of UV is damage because skin doesn't behave normally under its effect. Of course with limited exposure you won't develop UV-related signs of aging as fast as someone who bathes in the sun so relatively insignificant amount of UV radiation in the "moonlight" shouldn't make you develop wrinkles or pigmentation.
>>14261985
Sorry, I can't answer those questions. Once I learned its banned here in Europe I abandoned any further investigation.
>>14263109
You can investigate dermarolling though laser is probably safer.
>>14263572
It's a repairative occlusive that prevents moisture loss in the skin and stimulates skin regeneration. It's produced by Eucerin and is available in Europe. The texture is very tacky and shiny so is best applied during the night and washed away in the morning. My skin barely absords it though I don't use for the lips, but might after the anon suggested it.

>>14256025
What u can still get damaged in doors yet no vitamin d

>>14264121
That's because untinted glass lets most of the UV-A rays through, while blocking most of UV-B, which is actually responsible for the production of Vitamin D.

>>14250850
If im using benzoyl peroxide do I just skip using a toner?

thoughts on hyaluron? is it proven in vivo or is it just another dumb meme product?

Some of you guys got pretty good skin but dam mine sucks.
Wash with special sulfer black soaps use varies toner astringents like clean n clear an this one filipino one with nidacinamie(or how u spell it) for dark spots then cerve that has retinod used vitamin c...still use sun block and still skin sux.

Any advice for white heads hyperpigmentation and ice pick scars

>>14262229
Skin is much clearer in the sense that it's all one color and noticeably smoother (if you looked close before, I had like, reptilian bumps) and my acne has all but disappeared. My nose is less oily and doesn't have tiny black spots on it now. Skin isn't flaking off the bridge of my nose.

Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser
CeraVe Daily Mousturizing lotion
Stridex Maximum Soft Touch Pads
Some shitty sunscreen I had laying around

>>14263710
Some mix of the two but if I had to pick I'd say oily

>>14256064
I have 3 pillows, can I just switch pillows and wash sheets once every 3 weeks?

Which parts of your routine do you like and hate the most?

Myself, I find most joy in applying AHA and waiting afterwards. But I do hate applying sunscreen.

Lads I was recommended this https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006XAG1U4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as a good exfoliater.

But it says it's a cleanser, can anyone clear up if it's an exfoliater or a cleanser? thanks

>>14266312
I like moisturizing but hate retinol, but that's probably because i haven't mastered using retinol yet.

>>14266832
it exfoliates and cleanses

>>14265214

Okay, so how do I use stridex? no bully please, I'm unsure if I'm following what the instructions say as I'm not that good in english.

>>14267889
WIPE YOUR FACE

>>14267980
Sorry, anon. Quite drunk right now, so after that, do I use my moisturizer or should I wait for 5 minutes or so?

how often can i use peeling?
i did it a few days ago and before that a month break, is it too soon now?

>>14267570
Thanks, so I shouldn't use a cleanser before using this?

Any tips on how to get rid of rosacea? My skin is really sensitive as well...

>>14268017
no, just let it dry. shouldn't take more than 30 s.

>>14268310
there's no need for that

>>14268358
Thanks, just did it. Also, should I cut this in half per pad or not? On my first use, I feel there's still more juice in it, so I just used in on my neck.

>>14268788
I used to use them quite a lot when I still had acne and I used to cut them in half as I noticed, like you did, that they're quite generous

>>14268788
(and hey, they then last twice as long)

>>14269068
>>14269072
I see, I bought the 90's, so this might last some time then. Also, what did you use when you don't have breakouts(or none at all, I guess)?

Hey effay, I need some help with skin care. Pic related is my forehead, I wash it every morning in the shower using old spice body wash. As you can see 12 hours later my face is oily as hell, and it looked like this 3-4 hours after I was my face.

I am also wondering, the bumps you can see, if I exfoliate twice a week like it says in the pastebin link, would those bumps get removed or are those permanent now? I have blackheads all over my forehead and nose and under my eyes.

For the past week I started to wash my face again, just with water (otherwise my face gets too dry and tight), since I work in manufacturing and my cloth is brown by the time im done, I also run my hair in the shower for a min or two, to rinse out any dirt.

What can I do to improve my skin care?

>>14269559
>old spice body wash
why

>>14269567
I cant seem to find a decent answer for mens face care from googling then I just stop caring.

Bar vs gel soap: which and why?

>>14269574
Ask google whether men's and women's face care is fundamentally different

>>14269559
Don't put bodywash on your face

How much of this am I supposed to be putting on?

>>14269082
Well, I got older. Most teens have acne. Most in their late 20s don't...

what do you guys think about the Japanese Cure Aqua exfoliator? I am currently using it and am seeing good results, but wanted to see if anyone else is using this as well.

>>14270181
I mean, I was asking what you were using after your acne were gone. I'm 26 and I'm not sure why you need to bring up age here, in my question.

>>14270231
Oh right, I misread. Just AM sunscreen and the occasional cleanser

I know this is a very retarded post, but the OP doesn't do as much hand-holding as l need.

I used to smoke for about a year and the primary reason for stopping was concern for my skin. Now that l've actually quit, l want to start taking better care of my skin to fix any damage l might have done and/or stop it from getting any worse.

The only skincare product l have on hand right now is moisturizer, so some questions on that:

How often and when should l apply moisturizer? Should l do it after waking up? Before going to sleep? After showers?

Is Nivea CREME a good moisturizer? "Creme" is what l've always used and l have no idea if it's as good as moisturizer or not?

retinoids the best thing for the fine lines between the brow?

tfw allergic against spf

any good things about Lush? yes im a faggot who cares about the ethical stuff etc

>>14270556
just apply it if you're dry. smoking, in short, accelerates skin aging. the best thing to prevent that is to use sunscreen

>>14270556
you can just use something that doesn't have chemical spf. instead go for physical spf

>>14270347
>How often and when should l apply moisturizer? Should l do it after waking up? Before going to sleep? After showers?
Moisturization should be present throughout the day, so apply it every time you wash your face. For most people that's usually in the morning and in the evening, showers included. It would help if rather than using plain water you would also look into getting a cleanser with a skin-balanced pH of around 5 because tap water usually has a higher pH and can actually dry out the skin. What cleanser to pick should be based on how much stripping your skin can handle. They can be divided into three types from least to most stripping: cream, gel and foam. Even within those types cleansers can still vary to a degree.

>Is Nivea CREME a good moisturizer? "Creme" is what l've always used and l have no idea if it's as good as moisturizer or not?
Foremost, a good moisturizer shouldn't block your pores. This property is labeled as non-comedogenic. Blocked pores could result in inflamation and acne pimples. If you don't have that and if you find the texture of the cream acceptable and if your skin doesn't feel dry at any point of the day with the moisturizer still on then there's nothing bad about it. Other products depending on their ingredients may work beyond simple moisturization and account for different skin issues, say acne, keratosis pilaris, rosacea, etc. Other formulations can introduce sunscreen properties or further enhance moisturization by introducing ceramides, occlusives or humectants. Anything beyond simple moisturization will always cost more.

>Good sleepers had significantly lower intrinsic skin ageing scores by SCINEXA(TM) . At baseline, poor sleepers had significantly higher levels of TEWL. At 72 h after tape stripping, good sleepers had 30% greater barrier recovery compared with poor sleepers. At 24 h after exposure to ultraviolet light, good sleepers had significantly better recovery from erythema. Good sleepers also reported a significantly better perception of their appearance and physical attractiveness compared with poor sleepers.
Sleeping is vital.

>>14271233
glycolic acid would be probably good for this by improving laxity, collagen production, etc. just gotta wear sunscreen

>>14270594
After trying some bar soaps from Lush I will never buy from them again; they last less than supermarket bar soaps. If you do buy something from them be sure to ask for a lot of samples. They're pretty generous, even online.

Does taking cold showers cause acne? I switched to exclusively taking cold showers about two months ago, which is around the time it started to break out.

>>14256038
this makes opposite sense

>>14272316
>dude wrinkles and scars are so cool why don't you join the army/work until your body can't keep going?

>>14272320
bro you're right i hate my face now and i'm going to start blowing my money on laser surgery for scars only i can notice if i look close enough

I've recently started to exfoliate with glycolic acid and since it exacerbates photodamage I'd like to know the full extent of this: Is it only a slight increase in sensitivity or will fluorescent lights turn into UV monsters? Will SPF 30 still cut it? I refuse apply sunscreen every minute of my waking existence, it's getting to the point where I run out of the room when the sun shines through the windows. At work I make a point of only facing a certain way because of fear of rays hitting me in the face. Are their safer AHAs I could be using that don't speed up UV damage?

>>14272438
Why even expose yourself, just study/work nigthshift.

>>14272521
not possible

>>14272438
I think it would be smarter to just start applying sunscreen and go on with your life rather than try and shield yourself in the most ridiculous circumstances. What are you going to do next, walk with a parasol?
Sunburns are possible as well, not just photodamage or sun spots.
Fluorescent lights cut out most of the UV-A and UV-B due to coating so you should only be concerned with sun exposure either directly or in the shade or through interior glass. SPF of 30 is enough. If you're concerned with application maybe try to find a moisturizer with an SPF.
>Are their safer AHAs I could be using that don't speed up UV damage?
Don't think so! There are ones that penetrate the surface of the skin less, but even they have warnings against potential sun damage. On FDA's website all AHA products are required to list potential sun damage.
https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/productsingredients/ingredients/ucm107940.htm
You can find more links about sun protection in my previous post: >>14256025

>>14269769
Depends, if you're going out not to much you don't want your face looking shiny as fuck, more at night.

Male makeup is where its at.
I now have the ability to put on "no makeup" makeup that honestly makes me look like I have the best skincare routine on earth. When I go out on the weekends, the female attention is noticeably insane, and guy's can tell you're alpha as fuck...
Most of you won't have the balls, because if/when you fuck up at first (wrong shade, cakeface, too much contour) you look even more tryhard than a fugly middle school girl.

How can I remove discoloration between my thighs and get rid of old stretch marks?

>>14272239
It closes pores and works great for those with dry skin needing to latch on to oils. It's possible you have oily skin and are just clogging your pores with too much oil than what's naturally desired.

>>14273008
could you post an image w/ eyes covered where you show the difference between no makeup and "no makeup"? or just a part of your cheek or forehead to see the difference.

>>14273169
pores do not open and close.

>>14273008
>male makeup

Would /fa/ follow 10 steps korean skincare for a better skin condition?

if my face is fine as it is, should I really bother with any products other than cleansing it every night before bed? (I shower in the morning).

>>14273800
Yes, sun damage is a real issue, working at day should be considered abuse due to the fact électricité exist.

>>14273800
Skincare can also concern itself with anti-ageing. You should at least use a sunscreen. It's one of the most consistently advised things regardless of where you live or what type of skin you have.

>>14273371
yes. that's okay to use. I've used it for +4 years to cover up acne blemishes. you don't have to use it yourself.

>>14273773
>how to waste money and time: the routine

>>14274026
Why would you want to cover up blemishes instead of getting rid of them to begin with? Makeup isn't making your skin better.

>>14274029
>instead of getting rid of them to begin with?
the "instead" here implies I wasn't trying to get rid of them. I was.
you can both use makeup and attempt to get rid of acne.

>Makeup isn't making your skin better.
that wasn't claimed, but as a blanket statement that's wrong.
it depends on the makeup.

Make up is gay since it just covers the mistakes instead of fixing them

>>14274056
idk lad in my mind it's too much cheating depending on how far you went. It makes me cringe seeing how females apply makeup to hide obvious pimples sticking out of their skin. It's just the wrong way to go about this and I'd totally love it more if they felt more natural about this.
The only thing I can get behind is things that can't be fixed with a good skincare routine.

BRUH

THE STATE OF MAKEUP

>Should you avoid taking care of your skin, and instead just use makeup to cover up flaws?
No. The most important thing is to maintain a proper skincare routine. Taking care of your skin and using makeup aren't mutually exclusive, however. About two-thirds of women who use makeup products use it in addition to a separate skincare routine [1].

>Is makeup bad for the skin?
Generally not. While /some/ kinds of makeup /may/ worsen the skin, like bad formulations contributing to acne (acne cosmetica), it's less common now then used to be [2]. Rigorous animal/human testing has ruled out certain ingredients and formulations containing them. Adverse reactions to cosmetics are not common, and in a study only 6% of patients that had cosmetics-related skin issues suffered from acne specifically [3].

>Can makeup be good for the skin?
There are certain kinds of makeup that have skincare properties, and therefore shouldn't be disregarded. Concealers can be used even out skin tone and cover up semi-healed acne wounds or scars. Several products have SPF in them, and can prevent sun damage to the healing areas.

Examples include MAC SPF35 concealer, BareMinerals SPF20 concealer, and It Cosmetics' SPF50 CC cream. Correcting spot concealers (only applied in small spots) can have the same properties, such as the White Lucent SPF25 Spot Correcting Serum. Several creams like this contain added beneficial ingredients such as vitamin A/E/C/B5, omega 3/6 fatty acids, salicylic acid, and hyaluronic acid. They're not always added in sufficient amounts, however.

I would recommend actively covering up acne wounds/scars as well as hyperpigmentation/hypopigmentation spots with either SPF makeup or regular sunscreen to prevent sun exposure to these areas. Same thing goes for rosacea.

>>14274580
>Isn't makeup "cheating"?
Not really a dermatological question. In any case you should look up the differences between no makeup and "no makeup-makeup", as very few women don't use any makeup at all, and ask them how they're treated when they're not using makeup. Most people don't know what most females around them (if applicable) or online look like "in reality". Most male models and roughly 50% of actors use makeup during movies, photo-shoots, and various public performances for a "groomed" appearance [4] - so you should keep that in mind if you compare yourself to them.

1. Majority of U.S. Women Use Makeup with Skincare Benefits, without Sacrificing their Skincare Regimen. The NPD Group, Inc. / U.S. Prestige Beauty Total Measured Market, January-May 2018

2. Baumann, Keri. Cosmetic Dermatology: Principles and Practice (2nd ed), Chapter 15: Acne (Type 1 Sensitive Skin).

3. Duarte, Campos Lage. Frequency of dermatoses associated with cosmetics. Contact Dermatitis, 56(4), 211-213.

4. Robert Bolanos, Makeup artist, "Do male celebrities wear makeup to premieres?", E! Online.

>>14274584

>>14274590
I wish I was born female

>>14275010
You can always take hormones and wear a binder to not develop chest tumours, better skin with all the attractive of a man.

>>14275010
>>14275089
>>>/lgbt/

>>14275089
>referring to breasts as chest tumors
faggot

>>14272713
It could be

I've been visiting a dermatologist for my acne almost two years now, and while my skin is slightly better, it's still far from clear. On my latest appointment, I was prescribed tazorac gel instead of the usual tretinoin gel. Two months have passed, but I'm not noticing a difference. I still apply the clindamycin phosphate twice daily as directed.

Should I try and ask for isotretinoin/accutane? At this point I don't care about the side effects; I just want any effects. I eat healthy, I wash my hair and pillows, I spend time under the sun. But I still get acne at 23, even after using the prescribed medications.

>dad is 60 and has really good skin better than anyone else his age i have seen, also nice head of hair and very little gray
>ask him what he does to take take care of his skin
>I just wash my face with water
>ask him if he uses lotion
>no
are we getting memed on? I think there might be something to this

>>14275833
If you don't see a change you should definitely inform your derm about this so he would at least put your back on tret.

>>14272909
I have an spf moisturizer, do I need to reapply it later in the day if I'm not swimming or sweating or anything?

I received this face mask as a gift, and it seems to contain no alcohol. Is it good to use for a person with oily skin or will it be harmful?

>>14275934
Sunscreen performance degrades with UV exposure but the often cited 2 hour figure of when to reapply only concerns direct sun exposure. And it can actually be even lower depending on the UV index and the resultant radiation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_index#Index_usage
If you spend most of your time in the shade and indoors then the protection in some situations could last whole working day. At least it should be enough before the sunscreen components lose their effect completely. How much it degrades partially depends on the sunscreen materials used but generally chemical ones that are most commonly used in moisturizers and makeup are less photostable and loose their efficacy faster than physical/mineral ones. Search for Zinc Oxide or Titanium Dioxide in the ingredient list as they are physical/mineral. Another unintended issue with SPF-added moisturizers is that the effective SPF after application may be lower simply due to how most people layer it more thinly than if a sunscreen was used separately. I think it should be pretty clear by now that if you want your moisturizer to act both as a sunscreen and last for the whole day at the office that it should include not just chemical but physical blockers as well and that you should apply a thicker layer than normal.
Here's a study of several different sunscreens having different materials and how their photostability holds up after UV exposure, both artificially high that mimics day long exposure and natural equal to the time of the exposure up to two hours:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831786/
General information on photostability:
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen-stability.html

bump

>>14270594
I started to care about skincare after I noticed visibile improvements when I used a sample of their face scrub. It has corn in it, it's yellow, smells sweet and here it's called "let the good times roll". Still using it daily.

>>14275833
go for it, my derma never mentioned accutane until I brought it up to him, then gave me a prescription the same day. I'm still on it, but I'm finally feeling like I'm doing something effective against my acne.

>>14277687
based

>>14273023
?

What's the best electrical razor?


Everywhere I got I see bad reviews.
No way I'm buying something from amazon. Website looks like a scam fest.

my face goes extremely red whenever i move or even touch it. If I yawn, laugh whatever it will go blotchy and flush a deep red. I also moisturise once a day.
Can you help me out bros? whats wrong with me

How to mitigate age lines and dark eye circles?

I use foaming cleanser at night followed by cerave moisturizing cream. In the mornings I just splash with water n go.

>>14278186
I just received pic related a few weeks ago and it's been incredible. Hard to beat for the price.
Here are the only downsides so far
- brush bristles get caught easily when cleaning
- adjustable blade sometimes gets stuck (I think I fucked mine up though because I wasn't pushing in the button when I adjusted it at first)
- no close shave option. The shortest option is 1mm
Other than those things, it's incredible for $60 (use the promotional page to buy it)

>>14278368
get checked for rosacea

>>14278461
1mm is too long.


I don't have that much facial hair on my face but I would like to have it as small as possible.
Clean shaving is a pain.

>>14254841
no, its ur diet. tell me what u eat.

>>14264902
kys

Is there any skincare-themed music out there? I can find a few tracks on soundcloud, but no albums in sight. I tried asking on /mu/ but as usual they don't know shit.

>>14278759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8tQ7KRyXm0
the only one there is

>>14252898
I use coconut oil, including on my face

How exactly do you determine over exfoliation when the symptoms aren't overly clear? There aren't a lot of images of this and a half among those are hard to judge either.

>>14279113
if you over-exfoliate your skin gets red, warm, stinging, dry, tender to touch. it's simply irritated and inflamed.

>>14279292
Yeah those signs are overly obvious, but isn't there something in between before it gets to that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6932905/The-French-face-cream-sells-one-23-seconds.html

Thoughts?

>>14279378
it's not really over-exfoliated by then. I can notice some stinging, redness, and tightness though from using too much AHA

>>14280428
The pores on my nose have gotten strangely puffy after using BHA but even though they have gotten down I'm not too sure they are back to normal. I'll try putting it away for a few weeks to see what happens. Pic related is how it currently is, a closeup with harsh light.

Could anyone recommend a good facemask? I have oily skin with no acne but visible pores. I’m currently using effaclar but it’s overdrying my skin and have little effect on pores

I currently use a face wash/moisturiser morning and night every day, exfoliating twice a week.
I'm happy with my skin, despite not liking how pronounced my sebacous filaments are on my nose.
Would it be worth it to add some toner or even foundation to my routine?

>>14274590

Not an expert obviously but if she looks tired/sick without make up maybe there actually is something wrong?

How many moisturizers did you change before finding the right one for you? I already went through 4 and none of them seem acceptable to me. First one I bought blocked pores massively, with pimples and red rashes cropping up all over the skin. Had to change that very fast. The next two I bought I started to apply separately, one for the forehead and the other for the rest of the face. The forehead one is quite heavy and leaves a sheen and I'm not too sure if it isn't blocking pores either, but mixed with hyaluronic acid it does make the skin feel ultra smooth. The other cream has a good texture and mattifies well but the packaging feels like it was designed for spot treatment, the narrow tube only squeezes out a tiny amount of the product, not to mention it's quite dry so uses up relatively fast and for the relatively high price I'm not sure if I want to keep it as a day to day cream. The fourth one I bought is so super thick it takes an hour or more to absord so I only use it at night now. All this has been a pain in the ass honestly so I'm currently searching for something else to try. But at least the cleanser is down for good.

>>14281230
well, MAYBE. but most often not. it's just that we're used to women always enhancing their appearance so we have a completely warped view of what they actually look like in their natural state. the eyes will look less baggy, any wrinkles around the eyes will be hidden, tired paleness is gone and replaced with a tan/bronze/rouge.

>tfw cleanser accidentally gets into mouth
>tfw apply AHA on a just-shaved area

Tmi but I've been changing my skin tone on my scrotum. It went from the darkest brown to medium brown. Trouble is I didn't do it on my dick and this multiple month process is a fucking bitch.

Just had to say it, I'm still peeling after over a week :-/

>>14282557
Method? I got tanned too much and I want to lighten my shaft lmao

Do I need to use cleanser? I’ve always had problematic skin and I don’t know what else to try besides just using water but my skin always dries out when I do that

Send help

>>14282568
Lactic Acid peel 88%
.1% tretinoin
Papain and Kojic Acid

There's a lot of options but I brew my own stuff or source active compounds

>>14282599
Sounds fucking dangerous. How long do you leave it on? Does it burn? Explain more I don't want to burn my dickhole

>>14282604

I'm fine and have experience with this stuff over the years also:
-The stratum corneum of black skin has more layers and stronger cells than in white skin.
-Black skin and Asian skin have thicker and more compact dermis than white skin. This is also why blacks and Asians have fewer facial wrinkles than whites.
-Black skin has more casual lipids and more moisture in the stratum corneum than white skin.
-Black skin sheds its outer layers more (increased desquamation) than white skin

It all equals to less suffering of issues.

Lactic acid is like 5-10 minutes, retin a sinks in

Papain and Kojic acid at my dosages are like 15 minutes.

It hurts and then as the skin dries it hurts more and so you have to moisturize and seal and peel off skin for two weeks.

It's worth it for me though as I have goals to get back to a uniform caramel brown after peeling away all my sunbed tanning and tropical vacations trying to be as black as possible for almost a decade.

>>14282604
Also I've peeled multiple times a layer of skin from my penis head.

I've put 88% lactic acid on my dick and forgot to wash it off. Beauty is pain.

Does Micellar Water act like a toner? Should I use it after cleansing/exfoliating then before moisturising?

>>14273773
Fuck that
Cleanse
Moisturizer
And occasional exfoliate is all you need

>>14277742
thanks for the Tip, using herbalism atm, guess i gotta use it more.

>>14275848
as a anon pointed out in another thread
you shouldn't require loads of products for good skin. taking long, hot showers, especially if you live in a hard water area will negate any potential 'benefit' you gain from smearing different snake oils on your face.
keep it simple:
wash your face and body with something mild if it's dirty
keep showers short (<5 mins) and cool
install a water softener.

>>14282687
The information on skin types is very interesting. But why are you trying to depigment your crotch first when other parts of your body are more visible?
>>14282574
If the water is hard it can actually dry out the skin. So a skin-balanced cleanser would be a much better way to clean it. Cleansers depending on how much their strip excess material off the skin can be separated into cream, gel and foam types with cream based cleansers being the most gentle and foam the most stripping. Gel cleansers can also range from more gentle to more stripping. Using the wrong cleanser can also dry out your skin. Cream generally are more expensive so I would probably advise you to find a gentle gel cleanser.
>>14283277
It's basically a cleanser but made specific for makeup removal.
https://labmuffin.com/what-is-micellar-water-and-how-does-it-work/

I've been using differin for about two weeks and my skin is pretty sensitive and slightly hurts around my eyes.

Is this normal and what should I expect?

i had chicken pox about a few years ago. dumb me was in the shower when i noticed spots on my chest and i thought the fuck is this and spent 5 minutes scratching and scrubbing the fuck out of the spots. now its been a few years and the scars are haunting me, i don't have the confidence to take off my shirt because of the 5 old scars on my chest. anyway to get rid of this shit?

>>14264902
dermarolling sounds intuitive for icepick scars, creating new skin cells faster. it also works for hyperpigmentation. don't do it until you're clear of whiteheads though because you'll be injecting bacteria directly into your skin once you puncture them.

>>14269559
your body is producing tons of oil to combat skin drying after you used the bodywash. switch your body wash for a gentle skin cleanser (only on your face) and moisturizer afterward.

should I put a bunch of moisturizer on my face before bed? I'll look shiny but I'm not gonna be seen and I'm wondering if it'll affect the amount of oil I produce.

So I think I’m doing something wrong. After applying liquid exfoliant (Paula’s choice 2%BHA) my skin usually feels tight and sometimes it’ll burn/itch. I put some on a cotton ball and use that to distribute it all around my face every morning and night after cleansing. This is my routine (fyi I don’t do this every single day/clay masks are only twice per week)
Morning
>Cleanser
> Toner (exfoliant)
> Sunscreen(usually never do this)
Evening
>Cleanser
>Toner
>Clay mask
>Moisturizer

Has anyone else experienced that CeraVe is shit but Cetaphil works? I don't understand how two very similar products react so differently with me.

>>14285111
CeraVe is harsher in my experience, so you probably just have more sensitive skin that breaks out in response to stronger shit

I'm getting microneedling done in a week for acne scars. I'm excited but obviously not expecting much improvement. Going to do about 5 sessions.

How come all these models smoke but have perfect skin? Even my ex who smoked everyday 10 cigarettes for the last 10 years has perfect skin.

>>14285115
I have fairly severe rosacea, so I'm very conscious about only using mild soaps. Thanks for backing me up anecdotally, I get told all the time to use CeraVe, probably just because it's more expensive/boutique-y tbqh.

Pretty happy with my skin after about 2 years of consistently following a routine, just wish i knew how to make it less shiny.

>>14285160
lol wtf is that hairline bruh. are you wearing a topper?

>>14285179
Idk what a topper is, but im middle eastern so i have to line my hair up all the time or else it grows too far down. I just try to match the barber.

>>14273198
Almost every type of makeup from eyeliner, to foundation, to nail polish was originally for men so i have no problem posting my routine.
>Pic of me without any makeup.
No acne, but visibly oily skin with large pores, bags under eyes, and rosacea.

>>14285272
Forgot to post pic
>no makeup

>>14285274
my "no makeup" makeup.
My skin looks much more luminous, my large poors as well bags under eyes and rosacea (discoloration in general) is pretty muted, my face looks more contoured and my hairline looks better, and my lips look more plump.
This is all drugstore makeup as well, and doesn't cause harm to my skin.

>>14285297
goddamnit forgot to post pic again.
>"no makeup" makeup

>>14284122
Not normal. Are you using it at night? Try using less. A little goes a long way.

>>14285160
try either less of your moisturizer or getting a lighter one.

>>14285297
hard to tell what's what because of the massive light difference

>>14285132
you can use less off it too. but you might as well stick with the cheaper option.

>>14284486
>producing tons of oil to combat skin drying
no evidence of this

>>14284626
> I'm wondering if it'll affect the amount of oil I produce.
it doesn't

> my skin usually feels tight and sometimes it’ll burn/itch
you applied an acidic exfoliant after cleansing. that's not unusual. you can avoid it by cleansing less often or using less cleanser

I have dry skin so should I even bother with a toner? But that being said, my forehead can get quite oily because my hair sits forward, and I don't want to chronically shampoo my hair just to avoid this. Could a toner also reduce slight hyperpigmentation around the eyes?

how bad is it to touch your face like leaning on your hands.

>>14284481
There's also TCA cross method whereby TCA acid peel would be placed in the scar area and over a period of a week allow the skin to generate new cells that would fill in the gap. I think the procedure has to be repeated but the results can be quite striking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHRKrlmQM8
There are obviously more methods but I'm not really aware of them. Even dermarolling has its complexities with more shallow needles less likely to fix poor shape of the skin. Visit a specialist so he could advise best scar treatment, at home methods can only injure the skin more.

>>14284626
>skin usually feels tight
You have dried it out or it's actually dehydrated. If you see odd wrinkles then it may be dehydrated and that really requires treating first. Otherwise you should add a moisturizer to your morning routine because BHA actually has a drying effect, especially the liquid formulation. The lotion formulation is better for dry skin.
>>14284159
Visit a clinic. Skincare won't fix them unless the scars are recent enough, then scar creams can help.
>>14285707
What do you even mean by a toner? Typically it's refered to a pH balancer, which was made redundant by skin-balanced cleansers. However a few products that go by the name "toner" simply have various materials to "feed" the skin, a mixture of antioxidants, humectants, etc. If the former then you don't need it as long as you're not using a cleanser from the 80s.
>Could a toner also reduce slight hyperpigmentation around the eyes?
Don't see how. If it's actual pigmentation and not just some other condition then you need something that would lighten the skin over time, either directly or by inhibiting melanin production and wouldn't be harsh as eye skin is considerably thinner than other parts of your skin. It's suggested to dilute products in oils before application to the eye area as well.
>>14285887
Touching is advised against because your hands already keep touching everything around so whatever dirt and germs they pick up would be distributed on your face, potentially blocking pores, cause inflamation or infections to various degree. Additionally by touching your face you can unintentionally remove parts of your sunscreen or even move dead skin cells around and block pores with them. You just have to get into the habit of reducing your touches. It definitely isn't easy.

IMO my skin is really good overall, except for my nose. It's terrible on my nose. The pores there are large and clumsy. That area is also extremely oily while the rest of my skin really isn't. I can squeeze what looks like a large amount of white oil out of them every few days or so (IDK if that's even a good idea?)

Other info: 10-15 years ago I did two rounds of accutane. The only skin care I currently do is washing my face once a day with normal Ivory soap. Any advice is appreciated.

>>14274590
Left is much better

>>14250881
eat some raw liver, its the strongest purest source of vitamin a (main ingredient in accutane) your acne should be cleared up in a few days to 3 weeks

>>14285641
The makeup used has silicone and octinoxate which cause light reflection, rather than absorption. I used basically the same flash and angle, and in natural light the difference is even less noticeable.

Is it damaging to use mositurizer made for the body to your face?

>>14287535
dietary vitamin A is not the same as isotretinoin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotretinoin

>>14287838
not at all. it could be a bit too thick though, making the face shiny

>>14286304
Not that anon, but I'm one sweaty skeleton, so I tend to wipe my face with a cloth, tissue. It's even more of a hassle after putting on sunscreen or moisturizer(it's only like this when I'm not in an airconditioned room.) Is this okay? Just really light taps? I'm also getting back on my normal intake of vit c and e from way back.

I've read the skincare eye basic, but there's still alot of voodoo and hocus pocus for eye creams. I just want a nice morning and night routine for my eyes. Pic related

>>14288331
Wheres patrick bateman when you need him

>>14288037
Maybe try a sports sunscreen, they should better handle sweat.

UK Manchester with ginger level white skin here with good skin & a super basic routine. Been hearing a lot about sunscreen recently. What sunscreen should I use

Drink plenty of water + no dairy + wash pillowcase weekly + wash face

That's all you gotta do

>>14289117
I guess so, but again, I sweat easily, so I can't really reduce the number of times that I'm gonna wipe my face with something. So should I just reapply a bit, after wiping my face once I'm inside an airconditioned area?

Anons, what cleanser should i use with this?

>>14261855
Dubbening

>>14284073
In tan to dark skin people hormones influence the colouration of genitalia. The results are extremely dark skin in the groin that I dislike.

I am lightening my entire body but concentrating on the ground which is the hardest to tackle. Followed by my elbows and knees that have thicker skin and thus more melanin production.

From there I am removing my tan as I used to try and darken my skin to be completely even body and face but it's impossible. Brown skin can't get near black.

So now I'm just trying to even to my natural skin tone and bring down my crotch, knees and elbows along the same way.

>>14285707
Use retin-a around your eyes with an eye cream at night.

Just don't use a high strength. Retinols are bullshit desu.

>>14285125
The part of smoking that actually damages skin is the smoke itself. If they're always wearing heavy makeup or an occlusive cream/lotion, their skin would be relatively untouched by the smoke.

>t. 420 smoke weed errday with good skin.

My skincare regime for the past 5 years has generally been
>Korean foam cleanser.
>12-15% Lactic acid for 10min every night.
>90% Hyaluronic acid.
>Occlusive cream/lotion with more hyaluronic acid.
>50spf broad spectrum sunscreen during the day.

I'm close to 25 and don't have any wrinkles, so I guess it's working.

>>14290063
do you darken your palms to make that less noticeable too?

>>14290122
Bruh I was trying to get that like African in the sun even tone look. I was using high pressure tanning beds and even stayed at a friend's house in Hawaii coated in coconut oil and wearing only some swim trunks most of my time and I could not get even dark toned.

So not I'm reversing the sun damage and working in my junk to match.

Obvi I know palms don't lighten or dark however even though I'm getting back to my natural complexion which is a bit lighter than most American Blacks my palms are ironically darker and peacher than most very dark skin black people.

>>14290071
>close to 25 and don't have any wrinkles
you're not supposed to

>>14287535
the difference between raw liver and accutane is that raw liver is natural normal and has been eaten for billions of years. where accutane gives you this

>>14291033
Well, the first difference is that the vitamin A in raw liver isn't the same thing as isotretinoin.

The second difference is that there are many medications that may give the rare side-effect that is what you pictured, but only about 4 people of 1 million get SJS per year in the US. And only a fraction of those cases are caused by isotretinoin. Meanwhile there are about a million people using it yearly to counter acne in the US alone.

So take your fear-mongering somewhere else

>>14289807
It shouldn't matter but make sure to apply on dry skin as with any chemical exfoliant.
>>14289226
Anything over 30 SPF that also blocks UV-A rays. It's also prefered to use a sunscreen with physical blockers, they don't degrade as fast due to sun exposure and are less likely to cause irratation when compared to chemical blockers. While physical blockers do leave a white shade, it shouldn't matter in your case due to light complexion. I myself use Eucerin's 50SPF fluid though I really haven't had the chance to try anything else.
>>14289387
Yeah, that's the best course of action. I think wiping should affect sunscreen the most as it would be located closest to the surface, with physical blockers staying right on it. A stick sunscreen would also probably be better if you're on the go and need fast application.
>>14288331
>>14288709
Some capillaries are visible, but overall it seems you have just more deepset eyes and a general lack of volume around the eye socket. I think fillers are injected for this.

>>14288331
makeup

>>14288331
you (and I) have tear throughs only filler injection can help.
otherwise I see no wrinkles or coloring

>>14291033
dios mio

imo these 3 things are skin care and each one in the list goes down exponentially in importance:
mental health
diet
skin routine
for me this is based off having terrible terrible skin at the same time of bad mental health. up until right as my i cleared my mental health up then it all went away and it nearly all instantly went away. and it wasnt like a natural just growing up hormones thing. i wont try to say it isnt hormones but the way the hormones or what ever it was was happening was through the way i was thinking it and how i was feeling. i truly think if you have bad ance your face routine is probably pretty insignificant like ance isnt some cancer mystery super insane disease. at this point i chalk it up to literally like 97% mental health and its not really healthy or natural at all to have this super crazy complex skin routine with all these chemicals. if you think your mental health is fine id suggest going through all the different diets you can find and honestly when i say this i basically mean raw grass fed liver (trust me its totally different than the meme liver has for its self grass fed animals are actually healthy thus producing a totally different liver). i dont even eat liver but im pretty sure its the best. raw foods in general are the way to go though. if you hate me at this point by the time you are reading this then just try what i heard which is not eating processed tomato products. anything like ketchup pizza sauce anything with preserved tomatoes. but then at the same time eat plenty of fresh raw tomatoes. i hope some of you all get better skin

>>14291111
its not fear mongering the fact alone this is a possibility is jarring and this is just 1 of 100s of random symptoms directly listed on the wiki. ive heard of many accutane horror stories, drug companies and regulators def dont tell you or even know of all the possible complications of accutane. dont talk to men who make a living off selling you the stuff talk to the actual people who take it and have to suffer from it. and also good luck with having people open up and also admit to telling you stuff thats wrong with them after taking accutane and not being in total denial that it could be because of accutane just because their doctor says or its not listed as symptoms on wikipedia.

Any tips for discoloration after acne? I had acne recently on my back due to eating badly and now it's like small darker/red spots.

>>14292005
mederma

>>14291973
>the fact alone this is a possibility is jarring
No, it's not. Every medicine in existence has known possible side-effects.
Having literally less than 1 in a million chance of having a horrible side-effect doesn't mean that you shouldn't use a certain medication.

>>14291954

differin is making my face hurt so bad. moisturizer and sunscreen sting when I apply. the paper that came with it and the website say to apply it every day without skipping and your skin will get used to it.

anyone with differin experiences to share?

Where do I place after shave in my morning routine?

>>14292845
after your shave preferably

>>14292845
i shave after i wash my face. sometimes when im lazy i dont wash my face in the morning but i'll rinse it at least. i shave with shaving soap anyway. after i've shaven i apply moisturizer and sunscreen.

My sister is telling me that there's a difference between mens and women's toner, asking why I bought the woman's one.
She also said it's mainly to add blush and not for removing oils, is she right or not?

What does /fa/ think about Muji skin care?

guys i need help
back acne is fucking me, first thought it was hygene memes so i started showering daily, fresh shirts every day etc. that didn't solve it, so i started replacing my sheets every week on sunday mornings, that didn't help either. my shampoo might be it idk but the acne is limited to my back, no where else. i'm 21 btw so i doubt its teenager acne

what else can i do? i have tried a neutrogena salicyclic acid face wash on a loofa for my back, all that does is act as an abrasive and it just hurts to even dry. bought a bioderma acne wash and that doesn't do anything either (been using that daily for the last month and a few days ago i got new ones).

diet wiise i don't eat the healthiest but i don't go full american daily either. could be stress but i only get acne on my back.


what the fuck can i do?

>>14292961
Anything goes by the name "toner" these days so rather than looking at how it's named, investigate what it actually does, what the manufacturer advertises. OG toners were meant to balance acidity of the skin after cleansing because cleansers weren't really doing a good job of keeping pH in balance.

>>14292779
um it doesnt make my face hurt. i also only shower once every 3 days and only wipe my face down with water and piece of paper towel as face routine. and i never use unscreen and rarely use moisturizer but the moisturizer doesnt hurt. how long have you been using?

>>14293031
I think he bought toner as in makeup toner hence why his sister said its there to "add blush"

>>14292997
>all that does is act as an abrasive and it just hurts to even dry

and you're wondering why your skin is trying to produce more oil to heal itself

>>14293696
oh
does it do that?

ok so what can i do/use to get rid of this problem, ive been using that face wash with some body wash on a loofa

>>14293780
>does it do that?
Well people like to claim it does, but there's no science backing it

>>14293803
have you never seen a wound heal? if you pick a scab it will produce sebum

How much should I be worried about sun rays to my skin?
I live in a country with extremely strong sun during day, and I usually sleep until 12 pm or so...
Since I don't use suncreen to sleep (and it would lose the effect anyway), should I wake up earlier to protect my skin?

>>14293803
nice sarcasm

note: I was originally talking about how the skin doesn't produce more oils when dry, but other posters seem misinformed on this topic too.

>>14293825
uh, only partially (and obviously depends on the prevalence and state of the local sebaceous units). it's mainly pus. you're probably confusing it with liquor puris.

>>14294082
nice attempt at downplaying the seriousness of my comment without actually arguing against it.

>>14250850
does this bullshit actually work?

>>14294838
well it moisturizes your skin. it's just rather expensive.

>>14294034
Well you can install UV filters for your windows or make sure the curtains provide adequate protection against UV light, usually that means buying appropriate curtains.

sorry if this has been covered anywhere

does anyone know if certain types of tea are good for clear skin? different types of green tea have various health benefits so i was curious if some herbs or flavours in tea will help clear up acne and shit

>>14293416
you have to use sunscreen if you're using differin and going outside during the day. and my skin tends to be dry so i have to use moisturizer.

i've been using it almost a week

>>14250871
not to diminish her complexion but this photo is really uncanny. something about the proportions of her skull. am i just seeing things?

>>14296098
Smiling like that doesn't look good.

When should I increase the frequency of my AHA from the current every other day to every day? I've been on it for about 3 weeks now. I think the initial purging has passed.

fuck the sun

Been doing 40mg acutane for 18 days now. Nothing significant yet, but slowly I think my body acne is getting better and actually healing from the root cause. My doctor swears that this will completely cure me of acne in 4 or so months. Only side effect is dry lips but I have read it gets more intense. My bet is he increases my dosage next visit but well see.

>>14296154
based

>>14296170
bodyweight? j/w because it's important for dosing

>>14296314
150lb

>>14296331
so .6 mg/kg
https://www.aad.org/practicecenter/quality/clinical-guidelines/acne/isotretinoin
https://bpac.org.nz/BPJ/2013/November/acne.aspx
https://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatology/cumulative-dosing-isotretinoin-should-not-follow-strict-range

staying on the low dose you currently have is in line with the evidence.
no evidence-based need to up the dose. just keep at it.
according to several studies linked above you'll get equally good effect at a low dose like the one you're currently at, but with a much lower risk of bad sides. up to 70 mg/day could probably work without too much issues though.

>>14263146
Maybe you have oily skin but your skin also dehydration which means you need hyaluronic acids or some hydration for your skin

>>14296697
Interesting. Thanks for the information, I definitely don't want some of the more intense side effects I have heard about. I really just wish it would hurry the fuck up but I'll probably be waiting 4 months at least sucks.

So I was always told to wash my face with cold water because it closes the pores (as opposed to warm water opening them), but does that also hold true when using a cleanser or moisturizer? I'm thinking it might be a good idea to open them up there, but I'm not sure since I'm pretty dumb.

>always have good skin
>only drink water and tea, no junk food
>restart face wash, toner, moisturizer add exfoliator
>skin looks 100x worse now
Was it the exfoliator? I used the wash, toner, and lotion a lot before and it was fine.

But now I have blotchy skin, some acne, lotz of lkttle red bumps, etc. My face is abysmal.

>>14297283
physical or chemical exfoliant?

>>14297285
Chemical I guess

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>>14297289
that's physical and probably the worst possible thing for your skin, to the point where it's a meme.

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/351890-st-ives-apricot-scrub-class-action-says-product-causes-skin-damage/

>>14297293
I guess I just trash it. Never used exfoliators before and looked fine

what are some of the best professional electric razor?

I've got greasy med skin with acne scars and dark circles should I just fucking neck it?

>>14297283
>restart face wash, toner, moisturizer add exfoliator

zero need for this if you already have good skin
just use sunscreen to maintain it.

Not sure where to put this, but it's skin problem I guess. So all my black and some colored shirts stink up my armpits for some reason, whites don't do this at all. Do my armpit bacteria not agree with the dye or is it something else? I love black please help.

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>>14298197