/fa/ - Fashion

Cased in white gold, this Quantieme Perpetual is an automatic, self-winding perpetual calendar. Coming in at 8mm thick, it's remarkbly thin especially considering it's complications.

>>14246017
Powering it is the time-tested AP cal. 2120, with an added perpetual calendar module. The movement itself is just 3,95mm(!) thick.

>>14246017
How can you keep track of the leap year if it's not displayed on the dial then?

Umph....

>>14246050
Fucking ugly. For $6k you could get a nice solid gold Patek Philippe calatrava instead.

>>14246054
PLEASE LET THIS MEME DIE

An understated AP, this thing is just stunning.

>>14246033
Good question. I don't know but it is a true perpetual calendar not *just* an annual calendar. It doesn't have a leap year indicator dial or movement-side, at least none that I can see, I'm sure the manual that came with it explains how to set it up correctly with the leap year in mind.

In other news, Sotheby's withdrew a Dufour from their 2019 Important Watches auction held in HK a few days ago. The withdrawn "no. 108" Simplicity bought in New York was stolen on Nov 2018 in Kent.

The owner posted about the burglary here: https://www.watchprosite.com/independents/stolen-philippe-dufour-simplicity/16.1245601.10327621/1543173818/

>>14246050
Hey that's my photo

>>14246054
I already had a dress watch.

>>14246088
That's a damn shame.

>>14246088
But here's the thing, it's not actually a no. 108. It's a no. 103, the thief or whoever possessed it had the plate re-engraved to turn the 3 into an 8.

After being contacted, Philippe Dufour himself confirmed that it is not a 108. With only 200 Simplicitys made, and this Simplicity having a quite rare configuration, a two-tone dial cased in platinum, I'm sure it was easy to check against Dufour's records and confirm whether or not this was a stolen watch.

Sotheby's is currently being sued by the actual owner of the watch. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3004365/man-britain-sues-sothebys-hong-kong-after-it-was-about

>>14246105
According to local police in the UK, no one was arrested for the burglary. I'm wondering whether or not the owner was targeted, having the serial plate re-engraved and all. But it's pretty ballsy to have it sold at a public auction, especially at Sotheby's. It's likely that whoever it was fenced to didn't know it was stolen, the watch travelled quite a bit from Dufour in Switzerland to Contrapante at New York where it was sold and then on to the UK where it was stolen and finally, almost auctioned-off in Hong Kong.

>>14246099
It is but at least it was found, Sotheby's HK is still in possession of it.

>>14246122
Oh, I misunderstood that part. Well it's a good thing that it was found then.

>>14246142
Yeah. Just to make it clear for the others:

It's a stolen Simplicity listed for auction at Sotheby's, the actual owner found it/was tipped off, Dufour was contacted and confirmed the serial number was falsified. The actual owner is now in the process of recovering the watch and has sued Sotheby's.

>>14246011
Damn thats beautiful. I never considered that AP made watches other than Royal Oak

>>14246088
im surprised it took so long for people to notice. Shouldnt the first thing these resellers be doing is cross checking that its actually all legit? Wouldnt looking up serial 108 and seeing it was supposed to look completely different be a bit of a giveaway?

something seems off to me...

>>14246105
it almost reminds me of that wine documentary on netflix (called sour grapes or something like that its a pretty good watch)

>>14246158
Well, they're not part of the trinity for nothing. This blue-dialed piece is equally beautiful.

>>14246184
The Sotheby's obviously don't have access to Philippe Dufour's records, it's not clear how it was established that the watch was stolen but it seems to me that it was the actual owner finding out that it was being auctioned off. My speculation is only then was Philippe Dufour was actually contacted to have his records checked. I assume that Sotheby's in-house experts just confirmed it was a real Dufour by eye, as obviously his finishing won't ever be properly faked, and had it listed and advertised as lot 2299.

Whether or not they had established provenance from the person who consigned it to them remains unclear.

anybody else like looking at the reviews for watch boxes to see randoms collections?

heres a pretty strong normie collection. subs and panerais

>>14246209
came from https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B79BHF0

>>14246193
Interesting, thanks for the recommendation. Another wine thing I've heard, the new rich Chinese have been trying hard to appear sophisticated, going in so as to purchasing really really expensive rare wines just to show off the bottles but the owners hating the taste so they mix it with Coke. Lol.

>>14246205
One of those blue dial ones is up on chrono24 right now, too bad it's about 3x the price of the standard yellow gold/white dial variant.

Just bought this absolute shitter for $20, can't wait for it to come broken in the mail.

Just bought this absolute shitter for $20, can't wait for it to come broken in the mail. I want to replace the bracelet with a band, debating suede or nylon. No nato strap bullshit.

>>14246223
Had a look, it's the very same watch. The pricing reflects the rarity though. I believe I saw some sold at Antiquorum for much more.

Good morning!

>>14246205
whats the numbers above the moon for

what watch case does /wt/ recommend? I want something that holds at least 12 watches.

I was looking at picrel (https://www.ebay.com/itm/273308649030)) it seems a bit too big (21.5” x 13.5” x 7”)

>>14246239
It is real nice to be honest, certainly a unique dial. If I were to drop around that much on a watch though I'd probably lean more towards the chronometre bleu.

>>14246220
>but the owners hating the taste so they mix it with Coke.
Everyone hates the taste of most alcohols.

Poorfag looking for some help picking out a watch

Budget: $400
Type: Dress/Diver
Bracelet: Metal
Size: at least 40mm, or whatever looks good on big wrists

>>14246381
>Budget: $400
Just get any quartz shitter you like the look of, you'll throw it away when you buy a real watch anyway.

>>14246371
quit drinking bottom shelf

>>14246404
>I paid 50k for the spoiled horse cum so I must convince myself that it tastes good

My father is looking to purchase me a watch for about 1k USD after I recently announced my wife was pregnant with our first child, a boy, as something to pass down to him like he did for me. I'd ideally like something that could be worn casual or dressed up. (Im 26 and work in a buisness casual workplace in IT). My favorite watch ever is the Omega Dynamic III with the date rather than cronograph. Any recommendations? My wrist is about 8 in.

>>14246513
>for about 1k USD
See >>14246384

>>14246513
Then just get the Omega Dynamic III? Looking around it can be had for less than that

>>14246513
What did he pass to you?

>>14246549
A tissot seastar seven that he purchased back in the early 80s with the little money he had.

>>14246525
>$1000

There's not much worth keeping below 1500 tbqh. Even there's a stretch. You're looking at like a SM300 second hand that probably needs servicing.

>>14246562
Not bad tissoy. So you want a diver or dress watch? One or other? Mechanicuck or quartz?

>>14246562
>>14246562
>A tissot seastar seven that he purchased back in the early 80s with the little money he had.

Nice heirloom, wear it in good health.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960s-Tissot-Seastar-Seven-Automatic-Gents-Watch-99p-No-Reserve/153444776626

>>14246588
quartz as I dont actually have to wind anything that would be a daily driver. I would like a dive watch as I never need to wear a suit for work and I think dress watches look too fancy for polos and khakis with converse while I drive to work in my wrx.

>>14246604
>dive watch
Why not a field watch or a chrono?

>>14246618
I dont like cronos although i do like field watches a lot.

>>14246621
>>14246618
Why not both.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/hamilton-khaki-field-auto-chrono-watch/

>>14246604
>Quartz diver
>8 inch wrist
>$1000
Get the sbbn031. You'll be able to pull it off with your wrist.

>quartz
>heirloom watch

Good morning, wt.
>>14246629
Kill yourself.

>>14246629
anon’s dad seems pretty cool desu. My dad wouldn’t buy me a 1k present just for forgetting to pull out.

>>14246637

>>14246649
Just fuck me up hair.

Imagine thinking perlage and geneva striping makes your shitty mechanical watch worth covetting. These finishings are year 1 watch making school techniques. If you're gonna go swiss at least go for one of the more special brands like MB&F. If you have the money for haute horology and are considering gay swiss shit over the based jap Grand Seiko you have fucking rocks in your head. KYS.

>>14246649
OHNONONONONONO AHAHAHHAHAHAHHA ANON NONOONONONO PFFFTFTHAHHAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>14246637
More angles than a Royal Oak case.

>>14246513
Congrats, bro!

>>14246604
this: >>14246627

>>14246637
More angles than a Royal Oak case.

>>14246625
>BIG 9
Fucking hell

>>14246685
You're supposed to imagine the big 12, 4, and 6.

>>14246625
I really like this. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>14246656
This but unironically.

>>14246692
Warning - /fa/ shits on any automatic chronos below 5k though. I just really like the generic field chrono look, it's my favorite type of watch purely visually speaking. It might be a totally shit quality mechanism and whatnot.

>>14246088
>that'll be $200,000 please
Can you send a watch back to Dufour?
"Hey old man, you missed a spot"

>>14246691
Think I'd rather imagine I'm wearing a better designed watch

Speaking of chronos, it's one of these days today. Still love it.

>>14246705
could be a fleck of dust on the crystal.

>>14246708
>>14246266
>>14246230
>>14246098
Nice watch! Does your boyfriend have one too?

>>14246716
Doesn't look it

>>14246746
Oh nonono. Swisscucks on suicide watch

>>14246746
Why not?

>>14246753

>>14246754
Look at the larger marker to the right, you can see another imperfection that's in line with the gap, it's no doubt due to the textured dial.

>>14246753
Don't worry, they'll employ some of their doublethink that'll mean it's even more collectable and valuable. It's not an imperfection of the manufacturing process, it's horological history!

>>14246760
Nothing indicates that those aren't flecks on the crystal.

>>14246765
Here's another photo taken from a different angle.

>>14246805
Nice resolution.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/top-10-affordable-watches-get-nod-snobs/

Be honest /wt/ have you even heard of any of these except Seiko and Orient?

>>14246625
Pants on dial.

>>14246812
Only ones I haven't heard of are tempest and dietrich. The sevenfriday is absolute pleb bait though.

>>14246812
Stupid article. Firstly, watch snobs don't give ANYthing a pass, otherwise they wouldn't be snobs.
Secondly, except for the Seiko divers none of these gets a fucking pass. You couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone buy any of these regardless of their budget.

Of course I've heard of them and maybe even thought "hey, that's kinda neat" (like Swatch making an automatic movement entirely automated) but, again, would never ever buy them.

>>14246824
>Secondly, except for the Seiko divers none of these gets a fucking pass.
Not even Orient?

I like it when customers bring me something nice, even though it's just a basic-bitch 2824 inside. Some Hungarian service center serviced it 3-4 years ago, and it already runs like crap, the pigs lefts all kinds of smudges on the movement.

I've heard this before that local service-center personnel are usually underpaid, undermotivated hacks.

Owner says the watch is about fifteen years old. It's probably one of the very last tritium-lumed watches before it was banned (1999 I think?), since the lume is not dead yet.

>>14246828
Got any lume shot?

>>14246828
How is that nice, it's like $1.5k

Dogshit arrived from India
Realised the dial is very misaligned so will be saying it never arrived

>>14246844
wtf

>>14246835
Don't really have the photographic hardware for lume shots. It's like a mid-rage lume on a new watch. It's comparable to pic.

>>14246381
>dress/diver
Those two things are extremely different, pick one.

>>14246757
WABISABI

>>14246840
He's in Eastern Europe, thst is half of an average person's yearly income

>>14246871
I'm in Eastern Europe too, if you don't have a Rolex you're no one just like everywhere else.

>>14246649

Bosnian war criminal hair

https://insearchoftheperfectwatch.blogspot.com/2013/

When you buy any high-end Swiss watch, you are carrying out a willful suspension of disbelief. You are an adult who has chosen to go the same route as a 10 year-old who chooses to continue to believe in Santa Claus, in order to keep those Christmas gifts coming. The bargain works like this: in order to justify spending several thousand dollars on a watch that is less accurate than a quartz watch from Hong Kong, you explain to yourself-and anyone else who will listen-that this Swiss watch is made of the best materials. It is made of the highest quality metals. Its movement is made with precision parts (also made of high quality metals). It is highly waterproof. It glows in the dark.
It is functional, and beautiful.
It is awesome.
Here's the thing, boys and girls: You can only carry this illusion so far, before someone in the crowd shouts, "The emperor has no clothes!"

By the way, seems like the new skx's have been announced. Wr reduced to 100m, upgrade to 4r36 that's about it. No sign of a new skx013 yet.

Is the Explorer 1 considered a field watch?

>>14246828
>local service-center personnel are usually underpaid, undermotivated hacks.
I'm worried that if I get a watch serviced/repaired they're gonna leave dust or a skin flake or something on the dial.

>>14246926
No

>>14246929
What is this?

>>14246381
Orient mako ii or ray ii are as close as you're going to get

>>14246941
I really like how simple this is but I feel like it would be viewed as wearing a plastic Casio. And it's pretty expensive in my country.

>Today, Hamilton is owned by Swatch Group, which is the largest watch company in the world. It owns Bregeut, Winston, Jaquet Droz, Omega, Tissot, and makes all the watches for Tiffany & Co., and if you Wikipedia the Swatch Group, you see that Hamilton’s rich history has earned it a place in…the bottle half of Swatch Group’s brand portfolio.

>This is good and bad. Good: You get standardized quality and the same ETA movement seen in more expensive watches. Bad: It’s Swatch’s bargain basement brand, only rated slightly above, well Swatch itself.

Is this true? :(

>>14246954
What kind of sôiyboy celebrates a brand getting eta movements?

>>14246923
I just hope the price is just as cheap as the current skx. Anyway I think at this point we can expect the new alpinist pretty soon. The cocktail time used to be limited edition and now there are tons of variations available.

>>14246812
Knew about 6-10 and the swatch. Always been a fan of the dials on swatch watches.

People do talk about autodromo and junghans occasionally here.

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f443/should-your-watch-cost-approximately-your-monthly-average-income-4890607.html

What do you think, /wt/, in what relation should your watch price be to your income?

Help a fren out, looking for:

>quartz chrono analog beater
>looks somewhere around IWC Pilot or TAG Carrera
>SS case, black dial
>100m WR preferred
>around 200 euro/dollar budget
>strap will be custom
>42mm diameter max, less preferred

The closest I came was this Casio.

>>14247010
Look up seiko's mecaquartz movements, they also sold the mecaquartz to a ton of microbrands. I think they're called vk63 or something.

>>14247010
Seiko snda57

>>14247016
Will do.

Why do watches start becoming less aesthetically pleasing from the $20k mark and upwards? Very little clean modern design in high end luxury watches, just boring/traditional or wacky & fuck ugly... much more handsome watches from the likes of tudor, omega, rolex, grand seiko & baseline APs than the likes of patek philipe, vacheron, lange etc

>>14247023
>Seiko snda57
Can you people stop recommending discontinued shit that you can't find in a normal watch store.

Stowa or junghans?

>>14247029
Because haute horlogerie has its own set of traditional design conventions and traditional styling cues, while series produced watches have their own distinct design conventions, and you prefer the latter over the former.

>>14247033
99% of watches are discontinued. Why restrict yourself to 1%

>>14247010
Den Henry 1964 if you're okay with microbrand shitters.

>>14246828
I don't think the ETA 2824-2 platform have a day wheel.

Isn't it the ETA 2836-2?

>>14247071
Don't fuck around with Dan Henry, it's shit.

>>14247097
Based on what? They're no worse than any other microbrands

>>14247093
I think they do.

>>14247107
Look at them.
>>14247112
The 2824-2 platform only have a date wheel not a day wheel.

>>14246933
Love the watch, hate the strap. I think that the least formal strap that you can put on that is a suede or perlon strap.
Regardless, beautiful watch.

Quick question, at which price points do mechanical watches approach ±10 s/d, ±1.0 s/d, and ±0.1 s/d?

>>14247121
It's beautiful ..

>>14247155
You can get any old movement regulated to +/-1s/day by a competent watchmaker. How long will they stay that way is a different story.

>>14246828
"t swiss made t" yes it's tritium lume and the old kind not in tubes lol.

>>14246923
That's a really good pic

>>14247168
does the quality of the movement determine how susceptible it is to changes in position

>>14247093
Same shit, who cares. You know what I meant.

>>14246828
Also the caseback has the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center logo. So a good LARPer piece, for far-far less than a speedy. These are like $700 used.

Can you tell me which exact Speedmaster is this and how much it is? If I get it, will this be a "good" watch that I can keep until I die, or will I still need something better at some point? I just want something final so that I don't have to buy cheap shitty watches forever although I will probably wear a $100 Seiko daily.

>>14247157

>>14247223
Fuck off you tasteless swine

>>14247228
It's got one of those useless 24 hour dials.

>>14247157
Isn't that bracelet crocked?

>>14247242
I don't know what you're talking about ..

> Your budget
Up to 500 USD
> Watch type
Quartz dress
> Desired bracelet option
Leather or at least easily changed
> Wrist size or desired watch size
7", so 38-40mm I guess

>>14247302
Read this and get back to us with your thoughts
imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

>>14247302
https://www.amazon.com/Tissot-TIST0194301603101-Heritage-Stainless-Automatic/dp/B0041Q44T2 https://www.amazon.com/Tissot-Visodate-Automatic-Black-Watch/dp/B0041Q44UG if you don't absolutely want a quartz

>>14247302
Seiko Dolce

I fell in love with the SRPB43J1. The problem is usually I don't really wear watches and I really don't dress cocktail-y at all, I mostly wear well, casual streetwear I guess? Sneakers, Flannels, Hoodies or just a basic camel coat with a shirt nothing, basically nothing too loud.

Could I pull off a watch like this?

>>14247400
Wear it with whatever, it's not like it's a patek calatrava or anything.

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/seiko-astron-ssh001-ssh003-ssh006-pictorial-4850807.html

Should I get this shit when it's out? It seems pretty good for a quartz.

>>14247155
It really depends on who does the regulation. Even a Seiko 5 can do 10 s/d if guided by a good hand. The only one who guarantees anything better is Zenith with the Zenith Defy Lab (you can't get one yet). Many watches in the few thousand range tend to be assembled and checked with a more careful hand, and so will probably be regulated that nicely before it gets to you.

The real question is more about accuracy in different positions and isochronism, but almost no one knows anything about that and no one talks about that stuff in expensive on house movements.

One dude came to this thread talking about balance wheel rates allowing for better tweaking for position between the powermatic 80 and a 2824 (or something).

Then there's all the terms about matchmaking that play with each other like "lift angle", which makes it even harder to find out what makes a movement better, even if you just eyeball it. At that point the accuracy is more about engineering than being made to better tolerances.

>>14246733
What, are white watch faces some sikrit gay code or someshit?

>when the chronograph discs overlap into, cutting off a piece of the indices/markers/numbers

How awfully ghastly. It is as if a chronograph is an afterthought and not an integral part of the design. Positively disgusting.

>>14247441
I hate that shit too

is there any reason to get one of the higher end Orient divers (Kamasu, Mako USA II, Kano, Triton) when the Seiko Prospex divers are there or thereabouts in price?

Asking again in this thread just in case someone recognises this. Looking for this particular watch.

>>14247450
No.

ITS UP GENTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLmN44dCBs

>>14247533
Are these people absolutely retarded to have any contact with golddiggers like that? What the fuck.

>>14246844
>reverse california dial

kinda interesting concept but looks worse than a regular cal-dial.

Thinking of picking up one of these bad boys

Assist me

>Budget
Up to 300 usd

>type
I want a moon phase watch, preferably not too clutted

>size
40mm preferably

>>14247441
It annoys me as well. If they deliberately leave some numbers out it's """ok""" but cutting features is never good

>>14247591
Orient Sun & Moon is probably your only option at that price

>>14247441
This so much!
It just shows that the company did not give much thought into fitting the dial to the movement. That would cost time and money and modern watches are mostly made to be within a certain budget to be priced in a certain segment.

>>14247602
What about higher budgets? Up to 2k or 5k, what do I get?

>new job
>pay rise of around 45%
>been fantasizing while on my notice period over all the luxury wrist watches I'm going to be able to buy with all the extra cash
>finally start
>realise the office is in a fucking shithole and I'd be stabbed to death and robbed even if I wore a shitter omega

How to cope with this? Anything similar happen to any of you?

Why doesn't Rado get more love on /fa/.
They are really strong contenders in their price range and offer a lot of watch for your money

>>14247754
Tell me about them anon, I only hear bad shit

>>14247749
Get a "weekend" watch.

>>14247760
So a white gold Sub? Since I dont have to worry about wear and tear.

>>14247754
That watch is not worth the price
>$1900
>Only 100m water resist
>Basically uses a powermatic 80 which can be found in cheap Tissots

>>14247754
>>14247759
>€2000 for a fucking quartz
Yeah, a whole lot of watch for your money.

>>14247782
https://www.juwelier-haidcenter.at/home/3957/r21700172-rado-ceramica-7612819053301.html

>5 bar quartz with steel indices.

>>14247749
I don't wear any of my nicest watches to work, but that's because I'd ruin them if I did. Just do what >>14247760 said and get a watch to wear at other times. I find I like watches the less frequently I wear them anyway, familiarity real does breed contempt.

Watches that are distinctive from a distance that aren't like a diesel?

>>14247790
some Bulova Marine Stars are like AP Royal Oak Offshores for poorfags

>>14247790

Anyone know of any real croc straps on Amazon?

>check out a watch that's pretty nice
>get mad because it's from a brand you're not allowed to own

I hate this.

>>14247811
Why, is your secret society at war with the secret society that wears that brand?

>>14247809
I know some real nice croc-grain calf straps.
Proper leather.

anons, should I get a knock off watch while in hong kong land? are there any good quality watches made in chingchong land?

Is this the best looking field chrono?

I was going to buy an orient sun and moon but it's ridiculously big. The petit version (36mm) is quartz and the subdials cut through the numbers, sadly

>>14247811
This looks like a hodge-podge of elements from different watches thrown together.
It's basically a microbrand watch.

Though it looks nice overall, I can't help thinking that it's pointless.

What watch to buy to celebrate my wife and I opening our relationship?

>>14247811
Would be better if it didn't have that damn date window to be honest.

>>14247853
yikes

>>14247811
Buy whatever you want. You are just weak minded and buy stuff for all the wrong reasons, like getting praise from random people.
>>14247857
Yep, a lot of watches look retarded with the date. Otherwise it's a nice looking watch.

do I get this...

>>14247887
or this?

>>14247887
>>14247891
Orient looks more dressy and fancy and faggoty, it's clearly inspired by Italian design so if you like that it's a better option than the Zeppelin which is just weird.

Why some people, including "watch people" have these silly notions?

I heard it all the time, including in this forum....why some folks really believe in this nonsense??


1) Only luxury watches are extremely reliable and long lasting.....you hear it all the time: "Ohh XXXX will last you a lifetime"

I mean millions of inexpensive well built watches, roughed up and beaten up still ticking after many decades is not proof enough?? Is it some sort of internal mental defense mechanism to justify to oneself the purchase of a luxury watch?


2) Quartz watches usually only last 10-15 years (LOL!!!)

I heard that even from a couple of places where I replaced batteries from my watches!!! I would not call these places "Watch repair facilities" especially after such statements.


What is your opinion on why these beliefs exists??

Imagine getting a tool sport watch that was created for divers to wear underwater and then getting it made out of gold.
Are precious metal watches the ultimate meme?

>>14247906
A 270 dollar seiko turtle with nh35 will last a lifetime, just get it serviced often and replace hardlex every decade

>>14247218
It's just the moon watch on a leather strap. That's all.
Omega Speedmaster Professional, 42mm, acrylic crystal.

>>14247906
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/power-watch-young-lawyer-between-%241-2-000-a-1004203.html
>If I see you with that CV2010 on your wrist, I will think "oh look, that lawyer wears the same watch I bought when I was 18". And I don't really think me having that watch in high school was ever considered a power move or recognised by anyone but my close friends. I now see people at uni wearing these watches in a "proud fashion" that is hard to describe and unique to pretenders, and it just makes them look like idiots.
See /wt/? You can't even buy a Tag and be taken seriously anymore because some dude had it when he was 18. So if you're older than 20 you gotta jump straight to a $60k vintage Pateque or strap one around your neck.

>>14247922
The issue is you seem to want a watch that 'will make people take you seriously'. You have to be someone who gets respect without the watch. A watch is for you anon, from you, too you. It will never define you or improve you. At best it will provide a subtle highlight or complete an image.

Are there any decent massdrop watches to keep an eye out for?

Anyone know anything about this Largaz SKX clone? Supposedly AR sapphire, NH36A, screw-down crown, PVD coated for $120.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SKX007-Largaz-Watch-Business-Casual-Automatic-Luminous-Sport-Waterproof-Watch/273584962038?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57159%26meid%3Dd5f272c40f0c485e88e2bb9c1951b33a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D11%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D283309607984%26itm%3D273584962038&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

>>14247936
This. Jewelry and burbles don't maketh man.

>>14246011
>https://wornandwound.com/seiko-prospex-japan-celebrates-40-years-of-gundam-with-three-limited-editions-sbdb033-sbdx027-sbdx029/

BASED AS FUCK

>>14247902
nice, faggoty is good enough for me

>>14247943
Not really. Occasionally they have a junghans max bill up, but that's about it. There was also one time when a number of langes were up on massdrop kek.

What's the difference between a "good" quartz watch with Miyota movement and a "bad" "fashion" quartz watch with the exact same Miyota movement?

my wrist is about 17 cm (6.7i)

There is the regular orient sun and moon at 42.5mm and the smaller one at 36mm. Which one do I get?

pic: the regular sun and moon at a 6.5in. Wrist

>>14247457
looks like a jaquet droz grande seconde but idk the model

>>14248031
Since it's kinda dressy I recommend the 36mm.
Pic related is the new 36mm orient bambino. No idea about the guys wrist size though.

>>14247811
I still maintain that the only Tag watches worth getting are the square Monaco ones, but if you truly like it and can't find an alternative, go ahead.
>>14247887
Orient
>>14248025
It's usually about being overpriced for what it is given the finishing and design. If you can't tell then it doesn't matter.

>>14248031
How does the small one look with all that shit on it though? Is it ridiculously crowded or is it just the same but scaled down?

>>14247993
Check watchuseek

>>14248066
not all that bad, although the cut numerals are upsetting.

I do have savings to buy a better watch but since this is only going to be my second watch i'm not gonna blow my savings on it

>>14248100
Go to a watch shop or two and try out anything they have that's similar in both of those sizes, this is honestly impossible to decide on without you seeing how the sizes fit on your wrist.

>>14248113
this is a good idea, thanks

how the fuck do so many people on chrono24 not have the god damn box and papers for their rolex?
I can see for some watches how they might throw it away but you are either completely retarded or a thief if you don't have the box and papers for you sub. Doubly so if you claim you bought it new and """"""""""""""""""lost""""""""""""""" it

God damn i love the monaco

>>14248148
They just bought it without a box themselves for a bargain and now try to flip it to the next retard for a profit.
If you buy online without any box and papers you are a dumb goy and deserve to be scammed.

Favourite thing about this bad boy is if it's a quiet day at work I can just read the novel on the dial

>>14247991
Based. Speedmasters and their fans are unironically cancer. No matter how many i see posted here. Even those not yet owning one are just annoying to talk to. You just can't take the söy out of them.
This watch attracts the worst kind of people.

>>14248167

>The Seiko 5 line of SNK watches are highly recommended as an inexpensive way to get into automatics. The watches are great for kids as a first watch and an excellent casual watch for adults. It meets all the check boxes for a good looking watch from a great brand at a great price.

>Kids (and parents) will love the sub-$100 price, the good design and the ability to mix and match watch straps. It can be a first watch for a kid or a nice watch for a teenager that can go with a lot of outfits.

>>14248168
That's what i meant.
>say someting against speedy cucks
>huge wall of defensiveness and projecting pops up in less than a minute

Lmao@speedy fans for being intimidated by a söyko. I don't even own one.

>>14247155
That's a bit of a complicated question. First, it depends on how you define your accuracy standard, and secondly, it depends on whether and how much you care about precision in addition to accuracy.

To try and keep this simple, mechanical watches will generally run at somewhat different rates depending on the position they are in, depending on how wound their mainspring is, based on the temperature the watch is at, and based on whether the watch is worn or not (basically when you wear a watch your arm motions subject it to small shocks that affect the rate the watch runs at to some extent).

If you just mean achieving an accuracy of the rates you gave over every 24 hour period, then even entry level mechanicals should mostly be capable of being regulated to run within +/- 10 spd.

If you mean achieving an accuracy of +/- 10 spd across all operating conditions, then that is a much more demanding standard.

>>14248148
Same with patek calatravas. Why would you spend 20k on a fucking watch only to bin the box and papers???

Discuss.

>>14248228
why is there a rope

>>14248277
It's so the people who buy that heinous shitter can hang themselves.

>>14248228
Chad/10
Would wear if I had the dick to match that

>>14246926
>Is the Explorer 1 considered a field watch?
Sure. What else could it be?

>>14248167
You can say the same thing about guys who sperg out over anything.

Can you say the Speedmaster boys are truly more annoying than the Grand Seiko fans screeching about "how it's as good, if not better, than Rolex?" or the G-Shock fans flipping their shit over the same watch released over and over again with slight variations in color.

Don't even get me started on Panerai guys. Fuck me dead, back around 2005-2010, they were so colossally irritating.

>>14248450
Grand Seiko faggots are the most annoying bunch. Muh #zaratsu. The Japs just couldn't pronounce the brand of the Swiss polishing machines they use which is Sallaz, so they called it Zaratsu. So fucking retarded and it's not even a special way of polishing at all.

>>14248467
It's a *J O U R N E Y* bro.

>>14248450
Actually a good point. GS fangirls are not better either. I'd say they are all on the same level with the speedy fags. Wear whatever you want, but don't be a cunt about it and defend it here. That's my motto.

>>14248450
It always starts on this thread because someone shitposts about something (rolex, seiko are the favored targets). They are merely "defending themselves" because part of their identity is that brand they like. You may as well ask for all shitposting to end desu

>>14248481
All fanboy groups are equally annoying, but getting upset because ppl are defending their favorite watch brand ON A FUCKING WATCH DISCUSSION THREAD makes you a worse than them.

>>14248450
>Panerai
i really want a Luminor Marina

>>14248467
>it's not even a special way of polishing at all.
Which is, of course, why not a single other volume producer of watches uses such a labour and skill intensive type of lapidary polishing, with even Patek Philippe using a buffing wheel with polishing compound to speed buff the shit out of steel Nautilus cases such that every polished surface on them is rife with he optical distortion produced by being lozenged by the buffing wheel, yes?

>>14248467
I wish the Swiss watches at Seiko prices had nice case finishing.

>>14248588
>i really want a Luminor Marina
Get one. They're cheap now after the market for them collapsed a few years ago. I was lucky to get out when I did, I would have taken a bath on a couple of LEs.

I still kept one, though. Watch nerds don't care about them anymore, but it is a fun watch and it gets all sorts of compliments from normies who've never seen anything like it (especially in low light when the lume is glowing brightly.)

>>14248568
No, there's a difference between being a fucking cunt and defending a viewpoint.

>I feel that Grand Seiko hi-beat are superior to Omega co-axial movements due to the potential for increased accuracy
is different than
>Grand Seiko is superior samurai watch folded ten thousand times and if you don't agree you're too stupid to know you're being tricked by Jews.

Which would you rather have a conversation with?

>>14246011
Dress/Everyday watch around 1k freedombux.

36-38mm

Been looking at Stowa and vintage omega, but I'm not sure.
Help me bros.

>>14248702
VINTAGEKINGSEIKO!

>>14247537
>Not left wrist

Kill yourself

>>14247671
That's a nice vintage Omega.

Seamaster or Ranchero?

>>14248702
Why the fuck would anyone ever look at Stowa?

>>14248739
I don't fucking know, just happened to get there by looking.

>>14248692
This.

>>14248702
That's tough. Not much new in that range.
I guess maybe

Oris Big Crown Pointer Date?
Baume & Mercier Classima?

>>14248692
The one with the jews because you bond more easily over the things you hate.

>>14248756
Well, good thing you didn't buy anything because they have terrible resale values and they are unimpressive collections of off-the-shelf parts.

At your price range, look at the Seiko Cocktail Time like a SARB065. It's only ~500 dollars. The difference between a $500 watch and a $1000 watch is negligible, quite frankly.

>>14248624
Lapping machines produce black polish, inherently black polished parts are flat. Have you looked at a Nautilus? It's all curves, try polishing the cushion bracelet links on the Nautilus on a lapping machine and you'll get a flat bracelet like the Royal Oak. Different machines are used for different reasons. You don't use a lapping machine on curved part unless you want it to become flat. You know what was the original use of lapping machines? Creating angles and polishing those angles on jewels, it's not meant to create curves. And what's a Nautilus? It's the curvy, dressier cousin of the sharp-angled and flat Royal Oak.

Bend a reflective flat piece of metal and you'll get distortion, only a flat plane can give you a distortion-free reflection and the Nautilus isn't a flat watch at all.

>>14248654
What prices and what is nice case finishing to you? Switzerland and Japan have different living costs and as such employees are paid differently, margins are different etc etc...

>>14247309
I guess eco-drivers? Presages and Bambinos are mechanicals. Could try searching for Bulova Accutrons too

>>14247328
Will check it out

>>14247363
Thanks

>>14248779
The reflections are distorted on those curved surfaces bro. It's a piece of shit bro.

>>14248791
(Also note that this store shops out the camera from the reflection when they use a light box, I know this for a fact.)

>>14248791
Such a piece of shit watch bro. It's buffed to shit bro. Rife with optical distortion bro.

>>14248799
I mean bro, just look at it bro. It's buffed to shit. It's fucking rife with optical distortion bro, I mean despite it being curvy as shit, Patek should do some magic and make curved surface reflections magically distortion-free bro. I mean come on bro, it's a piece of shit.

>>14248779
>Lapping machines produce black polish, inherently black polished parts are flat.
It's possible, though admittedly difficult, for a lapidary polisher to be used on two dimensionally curved surfaces, and Grand Seiko does so regularly.

There are also lapidary polishers that use a felted disk rather than the tin disc of a Sallaz machine, and those would be able to be used to polish three dimensional curved surfaces while producing far less lozenging than high speed buffing wheels loaded with polishing compound do.

In any case, none of that changes that Grand Seiko is the only large volume producer of watches to use spinning tin disc polishing on their watch cases and bracelets, and so it is indeed quite special relative to the rest of the industry.

>>14248791
>>14248799
>>14248804
I did not claim that the Nautilus was a piece of shit. While I personally dislike the polishing approach Patek chose to use for the bracelet center links, I do understand why they choose the approach they did (specifically because they polish the center links after the bracelets are assembled, which then requires a buffing wheel approach with the brushed sections masked off).

I only mentioned the Nautilus to point out that no other watchmaker I know of, including PP, VC, JLC and ALS, uses a spinning tin disc lapidary approach to polishing stainless steel cases and bracelet sections, much less any large volume watch producer.

I'm sure some companies must use felted lapidary polishers, but I don't know which off the top of my head.

>>14247591
>>14247602
Sun & Moon isn't a moonphase, it's just day/night cycle. Here: http://www.watchsleuth.com/moonphasefinder/

>>14248827
It's just Jap katana super strong 1000000x banzai marketing. Even cringier that it's not even their machines or technique.

It's just black polishing. Present in every watch the companies you named make. Black polishing is achieved through many ways, not just through using a lapping machine.

Zaratsu is just some idiotic marketing term renaming black polish with a Japanese-ised Swiss name.

>>14248846
This. The actual polishing techniques and machines used are irrelevant to the fact that Grand Seiko happens to have very good QC and employee training and operates with very tight manufacturing tolerances.

That doesn't fit as well in marketing copy, though.

>>14248846
>It's just black polishing. Present in every watch the companies you named make. Black polishing is achieved through many ways, not just through using a lapping machine.
Haute horlogerie watchmakers typically black polish parts of the movement, they do not typically black polish watch cases and bracelets, because the techniques typically used to apply black polish to small parts are not commercially viable to apply to the larger polished areas present on watch cases and bracelets.

Furthermore, not a single large volume production watchmaker even attempts to apply anything resembling a true black polish to any part of their watches.

Grand Seiko's use of spinning tin disc lapidary polishers on their cases and bracelets is, I'm object fact, unique among large volume watch producers, and likely even among haute horlogerie watchmakers. Please do feel free to point out which other watchmaker black polishes large areas of their steel cases and bracelets, however, if you are aware of any.

>Zaratsu is just some idiotic marketing term renaming black polish with a Japanese-ised Swiss name.
Zaratsu is just what they call Sallaz polishing, it has nothing to do with the uniqueness in the industry of Grand Seiko using spinning tin disc lapidary polishing machines on their cases and bracelets.

>>14248862
*in objective fact

>>14248862
the sword polishing horseshit didn't come from seiko, it came from weebs who assumed it was ancient samurai polishing technique.

Bro. It’s called Zaratsu bro. Unique. Bro.

IDK if anyone remembers, but I have this older tag shitter (picrel) that is losing around 40 s/d. I paid $400 for the watch.

I talked to a couple of small watch repair shops in my area (i live in a high COL city in the US) and got the following responses/quotes:
1) $350 for service
2) "we only work with quartz watches" lmao
3) $85 for regulating the watch and $650 for the service

Are these the prices I should be expecting or are these people trying to rip me off? At this point I likely wont service the watch since I rotate my watches out pretty frequently so losing 40 s/d isnt a huge deal. I mainly wanted to get the service since I like the watch and had been told on here that it would only be around $150.

>>14248883
That's actually a good picture since you can see how much better the polishing is on the GS than on the regular Seiko.
Look how much tighter and more even the graining is on the GS.

>>14248894
Try taking it to a Tag dealer because those small shops are definitely going to try and fuck you. They can't give you a quote like that without at least opening the thing up.

Usually the shops charge an exploratory fee of 20 or so to see what's wrong and, THEN quote you the parts and labor. If you decide to go with it, then they'll usually refund that fee.

650 for service? Omega themselves charge less than that for chronograph movements.

is this watch good? I like the space look

>>14248919
Wow, will ya look at that?

You know, I've been saying for YEARS that Omega really should lean more into that whole thing about NASA issuing Speedmasters to astronauts during the Apollo program.
I mean, think of the marketing opportunities.
How many other watches have even been worn on the surface of the moon? Can't be more than four or five, tops!

>>14248914
>650 for service? Omega themselves charge less than that for chronograph movements.
yep I had to restrain myself from telling the dude to go fuck himself. I'm no watch expert by any means, but I am autistic so I did some beforehand and knew it would be nowhere near that.

It just sucks for everyone involved really. I buy a good amount of watches (this tag is one of my cheaper watches) and was hoping to have a dedicated watch repair shop I could trust and bring a ton of business to. Well I guess they missed out on the business. idiots....

>>14248894
Got a model number? Might be running an ETA under there which definitely shouldn’t cost 650. Find out what movement it is and then call places asking how much they would charge to service X movement.

>>14248779
Seiko, as in $50-700 has better quality cases and dials than some Hamilton and Tissot, it depends on the model (bracelets still suck lol). Even the lume is better. You can see all 3 brands in the mall, so There's no point in pretending they aren't. I will say that Hamilton and Tissot are still better than fashion brand watches, and I wish Seiko didn't fuck up their SARY series with hands that are too short.

>>14248949
ill be honest, im not entirely sure what the exact reference number and the back of my case doesnt really have a model number like all the guides Ive seen online.

Here is a pic of the back of the watch and the movement.

is this a fake tag? lol

>>14249039
just realized that pic didnt come out too great. the writing on the case back below the tag huer log reads 669.706T and there is a very faint engraving to the right of the tag logo that says B58661. If someone knows whats up feel free to let me know, otherwise I'll just figure it out on my own

>>14249039
>is this a fake tag? lol
maybe not, found another example very similar to mine with similar marking on the back (picrel) https://www.chrono24.sg/tagheuer/2000--id9631476.htm

What watch is that?

Is this a fake? It is a speedy that somehow doesn't make any reference to the moon, the spacerace, or the moonwatch

Is there a reason spring drive watches arent more popular?

How are they to service?
Are there many people who can do the work? expensive?

Is there any GS watches with spring drive that depreciate quicker? or even any that are new that are cheaper?

>>14246923
There isnt really much about it a part from that low resolution catalogue shot. I would of thought they would of done this sooner to cash in on the mod community.

>>14246967
Seiko seem to be putting up the prices of their watches with the 6r15 so I wouldnt be suprised if they put this up a tier with the new movement. Lets face it they could probably still sell the SKX easily at double its price.

Any recommendations?
I want something that will last a lifetime w/ me, has a classic look that would go well on any occasions.

>>14249148
youre welcome

New thread:

>>14249191
>>14249191
>>14249191

>>14249148

Datejust

>>14249137

Grand Seikos marketing is objectively bad, even by Japanese standards.

Also they should have licensed the SD design when they first released it. I don't think there's anything too proprietary about manufacturing it, so idk why GS didn't do it

>>14249125

Looks like one of those Japan specials that Omega used to roll out.

>>14247891
I don’t like Roman numbers so for me, it’s the Zeppelin.

>>14248095
Can't find shit about it m8

I like this one.

Is this a good watch?

>>14248166
lmao