/fa/ - Fashion

>>14114338
and the thread was ignored for minutes and minutes lol. fuck you dadcore op go back to mfa

It's resented because it doesn't just require the right clothing and fits. You need status and money to really look good in prep. Two things /fa/ doesn't have and will never have.

>>14114338
its literally the most inoffensive shit its pretty funny how fags lose their shit over a crew neck sweater or something lmao

>>14114338
Try hard Amerimutt with no class makes me sick.
wealth=!class

i wear prep at the office
its boring for a casual style

>>14114606
Projecting.

>>14114338
Yep

>>14114338
because it only looks good on chad wasps, which is what /fa/ in 2010-2014 until we were invaded by tumblr untermensch and their goofninja fits

>>14114338
Because I honestly doubt most of the people on this board meet the other requirements to actually pull it off.

>>14114338
Because it only looks good on white men
The brown hordes on this board envy us so deeply

>>14114472
this is totally incorrect, some of the best prep fits are filled with second-hand items that were expensive when new but now can be picked up cheap and look better worn in.

>>14114606
see above

>>14114937
>>14115157
boring

>>14114338
to put it simply, the reason is because nobody who frequents this board is able to pull it off.

even the ones most enthusiastic about the style can't seem to put together an ivy/preppy fit that doesn't look like a costume. as a result, the people looking in on the scene just see a bunch of tryhards, and so that's the reputation it has earned for itself here

on a side note, you're probably one of those tryhards, since anyone who is legitimately pulling off prep look wouldnt be insecure enough to concern themselves with what makes this board angry.

>>14115809
this.
pulling off prep can only work if it comes to you naturally, you have to be upper class and not give a shit
only then can you pull it off. luckily i am that so i can pull it off
>>14114338
and the reason people on this board hate it is because they are deep down jealous of the way the look is perceived and are jealous that their LARP as eastern european terrorists isnt approved by normies while prep is positively received (if it is done naturally and not ver the top LARP)

>>14115832
by not give a shit i mean how you look (in the sense of no intense color theory autism, it is okay to untuck your shirt sometimes, sneakers in summer is okay, jeans are sometimes okah) and also how others perceive you
having friends that dress like you helps of course, which you will naturally have if you are upper class

Prep is literally "hit me and my daddy will sue you - the style"™ and that is not effay by definition

>>14115869
this is what OP means
people mad at rich people

>>14115878
It has nothing to do with money or even being mad, it's just that this style screams "sheltered kid". Or when you see people in sexcore and think they're faggots. You can continue this with any style, core or whatever

>>14115900
pic not fully related by the way

>>14115809

>ties with button-down collars

Disgusting

>>14114338
it makes just as many on this board mad as it does happy, just like most other cores. see:
>doomer core
>cyberpunk core
>lunar core
>goth core
>thrift core
>Rick core
>mfa core
>minimal core
>tech core
>streetwear core
>sleaze core
>slp core
>dad core
>normie core
>npc core
>milspo core
>trad core
>workwear core
>______ core
I can keep naming cores, but whats the point... there will always be someone who despises any core on here, it's just part of it. Any disdain yo ufeel from anyone regarding whatever core you identify with strongly is natural. /fa/ despises every core by virtue of it being a core. that is what /fa/ is, it's purposely contrarian, no core is ever safe from vitriol. because every core is a meme, and memes are hated here as well as celebrated, but mainly made fun of

>>14114338
Because it's pretentious and worn by pretentious individuals.

>>14115900
>it's just that this style screams "sheltered kid"
I got shot at in a market in Somalia today say that to my face not online faggot the fucking day ive had and i get called sheltered for wearing a wool jumper or something FUCK YOU

>>14117096
t. guy who judges people on their foam and rubber clown sneakers

>>14114338
it's hated because old school preps were normally snobbish assholes, disney and school boards are pumping prep and desirable, and despite the style looking good and not being joined at the hip to the rich, young people on this website cannot separate the two.

It like being told that you look nice today, from a bully.

>>14115198
Like I said. Pulling off prep has almost nothing to do with clothes.

>>14114472
couldnt be more wrong, never underestimate the level of autism that goes into prep/ivy.

>>14117216
that are more expensive and unique than preppy brands...

preppy isn't fashion it's a work outfit.

>>14117559
Preppy can be both depending on how it's used. For golfing, boating, going to the rifle range, and staying home, preppy is great. Brands which cater to the preppy image do more to sell to college people and suburbanites who gloat over pintrest shit.
Preppy isn't about brands - as one part of chinos is as good as the next. It's about an overall mood, one of caring without a goal to it, adherance to new england traditions, and sportsmanship. The ideal look is lived in, not brand new. The person doing a preppy look will look like they were born in those clothes. The rich snobs ruin alot of it, but it can be quite fun and good looking. Here's some preppy starter items to consider;
>chinos/khakis. I've seen the best pairs get ripped up the side, then stitched carefully with jute twine.
>loafers/boating shoes. Worn the hell out.
>sweaters. Solid color, or two colors are most.
>dress shirts, not walmart tissues with a collar sewn on, but thicker material shirts.
>an eye catcher. right out of the handbook. Only one flashy item is work at any time. Wedding rings exempt. Buckles, bright buttons, non-subtle eyeglasses all count as flash.
Dressing/arrangment
>don't tie the sweater on, only douches do that
>don't were chino shorts unless you're on a boat
>learn french or spanish
>join the masons, lions, or rotary club. french masons-'droit humain are fine, oddfellows are not.
>when talking to people, take any sunglasses off and look them in the eye.
>all shirts are tucked in
>trousers are never ironed, ever - that's pintrest shit
>if it looks cheap, don't buy it. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. Thrift stores or find a substitute.
>sandals are cool, and with socks... also cool.
>better sweaters and threadbare and stretched to hell

>>14117215
No one thinks you're sheltered for wearing a wool jumper, or wearing brown chino shorts, or boat loafers, but if you combine that stuff with the intent to look prep then yeah, you look sheltered as fuck. And shooting yourself isn't effay anon

>>14118632
no way to dig yourself out of that hole anon. you said it now take ownership of it

All prep is is buying high quality garments and footwear from made in USA/European brands without visible branding. This concept comes naturally to me because my family comes from old money, but this is apparently something that is foreign to a lot of people.

>>14114338
I get more inspo pics from prep threads than the average ____core general but the posters are some of the most hilariously clueless on the board

>>14114338
It's normie upper class attire like ooo look at me I take multivitamins and have a gf wow also I'm rich lolzzzz

>>14114937
Based asf

>>14117596
why do all prep retards sound like larping 15 year olds?
do you spend your time making these godawful posts when the kids at school beat you up for wearing boat shoes again?

>>14114338
Are you new here? Lurk around. People here want to be/are thin(not fit), genderless, and “progressive”. Make a /fa ideals thread and you’ll see the filth that roams in this board.

>>14114338
Let me paint you a picture of the average /fa/ user in 2019
>been browsing the board good few years
>has spent a lot of money trying out different styles/trends they've seen posted around
>realise that actually nothing looks good on them and likely never will because they're simply fat/ugly/short/one of the shitty minorities
>now they just go around attacking every single style without actually mentioning what they think is good because they've developed a hatred of both themselves and positivity towards fashion
And that's it. Notice how these people will dump 50 (You)s in a thread saying shit like "lmao LARPing prep fags" or ">jeans past the age of 25" without ever mentioning what they themselves wear or is a good alternative to what they're shitting on.

>>14114338
because this board is full of black boys

>>14120332
Take that back nigger

>>14120238
this sounds pretty accurate

>>14114338
Eh... /fa/ doesn't actually like anything. But I'd argue that prep is a bit of a poser fashion at this point; i.e., the poor trying to emulate the rich.

Rich people in the states often give few shits where there stuff comes from and dress more casually. Trying to dress prep comes off as the guy who wore a full suit to a country club - rich people don't need to show they're rich.

why would anyone want to look "cant beat me because my dad is a lawyer core"?
if youre poor its just a larp and and if youre rich its just the universal wear for absolutely insufferable cunts

>>14115900
>>14115869
Honestly this describes perfectly why I don't like prep. it's just gives off that sheltered loser vibe.

Although I know a few upper class girls who have this extremely trashy, borderline disgusting post-irony tumblr/instagram aesthetic and that's probably even worse. At least prep types write dickhead to their forehead while these girls pretend to be poor while having a solid background they can fall back to any moment.

Also everyone in Ivy league universities wear hoodies and sneakers now so if you want to larp as a smart person with these clothes youre a few decades late

th TL:DR version of all the answers ITT are just convulted ways of saying 'jealousy towards rich people'

>>14121991
I'm a lawyer. Should I be wearing hoodies and sneakers? Of course not. What if a client saw me at the grocery store or something? Obviously I won't be wearing my suit outside of the office, so prep feels appropriate for my lifestyle and income as well as being very comfortable.

>>14121972
Upset that you fell for the trade school meme or are you just a NEET?

>>14122008
>I'm a lawyer. Should I be wearing hoodies and sneakers? Of course not. What if a client saw me at the grocery store or something? Obviously I won't be wearing my suit outside of the office, so prep feels appropriate for my lifestyle and income as well as being very comfortable.

Are you American?

>>14122008
Dude I'm not gonna rationalize your choices, I don't care. I just described why I don't like prep style in general and the people who wear them

As for being a lawyer, trust me anon all things considered youre extremely insignificant and there are literal billionaires walking around in sneakers.
I have an msc in chemical engineering and I literally went to my first interview in a hoodie and got the job.

>>14122025
>have an msc in chemical engineering and I literally went to my first interview in a hoodie and got the job.
we all know STEM virgins are uncultured faggots

>>14122028
lol I would rather be "uncultured" than some pretentious faggot.
also if you think you will get more respect because of your shiny boots as a lawyer than a doctor or a well paying engineer youre extremely delusional

I dress prep and i know people hate us but i dont care.
im upper class and only associate myself with other upper class people, I play tennis and do golf, go boating, am part of a student assoc. it is just the style that comes naturally to me, ive been raisedike this

i couldnt care less what outsiders think since their disdain of the style is all based on hatred and/or jealousy for the upper classes

>>14122037
Theres no better way of proving how you dont care about something than stating it multiple times in a few line response

>>14122036
>also if you think you will get more respect because of your shiny boots as a lawyer than a doctor or a well paying engineer youre extremely delusional
not the other guy btw but
Doctors dress preppy,most literally have to wear a rie for their job.
anyway i literally know for a fact that the way i dress has atleast a slight influence on the way people treat me since i can notice the difference myself when comparing it to when i dress differently

>>14122044
dont care dont care

>>14122050
No, they absolutely do not, my gf went to medschool and there are doctors in the family.
Same goes for the "Ivy" style, most people in Ivy dress exactly the same as in any other university. The people there are concerned about their studies, not how their shoe looks.

It really feels like you guys are actual autists who dont know the difference between hollywood stereotypes and actual real life

>>14122015
Yes

>>14122025
You dressed for your field I dress for mine.

>>14119883
>have a gf
Are you okay?

>>14119918
has never read the fucking handbook

>>14120238
>>14120441
yep.

>>14121957
I disagree based on personal experience. I'm broke, and low income, and I dress prep on occassion, not because I want to mimic the rich ca.1985, but because it makes me feel more relaxed, and actually looks better than what I wear on a daily basis.

>>14121972
It might be more accurate to describe that style [untucked blue dress shirt with folded sleevs, khaki shorts, sandals/boating shoes, sunglasses hanging somewhere] as 'rich asshole' rather than prep. There's this weird splitting of definitions between prep and rich asshole that's popped up within the last 10 years.

>>14122072
of course, ivy style refers to ivy schools in '50s and' 60s, it was already back in the '70s where they started dressing like the rest
anyway, the overwhelming majority of doctors (not med students, actual doctors) do dress preppy, and i know quite a lot of doctors.
but im off, sick of arguing with mongoloids who think dressing in a hoodie or shirt doesnt give people a different impression of the person (so much for expressing yourself with clothes on the fashion board)

>>14114606
this.Mongrel mutt makes me sick

>>14122079
Anyway, as someone that wears a suit everyday in a pretty formal profession - no one cares and no one will judge you for it.

If I had to pop down to Duane Reade, I'd wear jeans and a henley under a big ass carhartt jacket. If it was 30 degrees warmer, I'd be wearing sneakers.

Prep is a really pointless fashion at this point because formality is pretty irrelevant for modern wealth.

>I disagree based on personal experience
Anyway, the question is "WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LIKE IT?" and my answer is you're very much over dressing your station, but even worse than station doesn't even dress like that anymore.

It's kinda like wearing a tophat to a wedding. Like you fucking COULD, but unless it's the queen, why?

Also, this is going to really depend on how preppy are we talking

>Chinos
Fine.
>Polo
Fine.
>Blazer
I hope you're at least going to a date or something.

The most annoying part of working in a business formal environment though is explaining to people rules for suiting and explaining that prep is "rich people at sport club circa 40 years ago" and not business formal.

>>14122129
why do you consider prep as showing/signaling a degree of formality?
because that is not at all what it is supposed to be
it is just the everyday wear of the upperclass. (of course you can spot who is real and who is fake because the reals dont deal with the autistic rules the fakes do, jeans are ok, you dont always have to tuck etc.)

>>14122095
>sick of arguing with mongoloids who think dressing in a hoodie or shirt doesnt give people a different impression of the person

It's not the 50s anymore. You sound like the kind of person that believes high school is like the 90s bully stereotypes in movies.
I'm not saying that dressing differently does not give a different impression. My point is that casual wear and hoodies these days aren't looked down as they were before. With the rise of tech there are literal billionaires walking around in hoodies. Rockstars are dead, indieheads, experimental bands and hiphop is more popular than ever. Artists, entertainers, photographers, etc. look at what interests people. People dont care about lawyers from the 50s. These days I feel like prep is more associated with the kind of people you seem, mediocre people who think they are better than the rest but dont have the performance back it up.

And in my experience as long as you are good at the thing you do and are passionate about it, people don't give a shit how you look. even in fashion there are some truly horrendous looking people doing makeup and cutting the hair of supermodels.

Because it’s fucking corny. It looks like you’re trying to dress like you belong to a bygone era. Besides, it doesn’t even look chic. It looks like you’re a fucking boyscout who joined the rowing club because you like the sweatshirt. The whole thing is so fucking juvenile. Besides, why would you want to look like some inbred New England Irishman who bought their status with ill-gotten gains?

>>14122138
Because it's pretty much the most formal casual wear you can have.

Which makes it the most formal of casual.... while what is acceptable casual has drastically shifted.

>>14122156
not that bloke, but when people see a guy in baggy jeans, new balance and a graphic hoodie they dont think 'STEM billionaire', not just because he most likely isnt but also because STEM is so incredibly sheltered from the rest of society (especially women, because they barely do STEM), in most circles hoodies and jeans still very much so have a slobby image (especially if you are done with uni)
of course on the other end, when people see a young lad in chinos and a shirt they wont think 'trustfund billionaire' but they will probably think he comes, at the very least, from an enviroment that raised him well. i also feel like it is really easy to differentiate from frat boys in sperries and baggy vineyard vines polos and people who have actually been raised in the clothes

>larpers crying about /fa/ attacking their "fashion"
every time

>>14122195
No, unless you're especially messy hoodies+jeans is

>He's just a normal person. Whatever.

Chinos and a button down shirt in a normal store is

>He just got out of work probably
Or
>He's a bit over dressed for being at 7-Eleven on a Sunday
Or
>I thought Jews wore hats

>>14122195
youre building up this autistic strawman dude with the baggy jeans and dad shoes. casual wear does not mean ill fitting clothes.
and STEM is more relevant than ever, everything is tied to some kind of computer these days. how could you say they are sheltered lol. again this is such a movie stereotype from the 90s that hasnt been relevant for a long time makes me wonder whether you actually go out.

and for the women part, they mostly lack in computer science, physics and these fields. medicine, biology, chemistry, chemical engineering, geology, food related engineering fields, maths have plenty of women

>>14122225
Feel you, I feel like people trashing jeans and tshirt on this board dont realise you can very easily seen overdressed.
I think the best outfits seem effortless which means is good without giving away a fact there is much trying and pressure behind it. if someone looks at you and their first thought is you spend too much time to appear in this certain way thats never good. and thats exactly whats wrong with preppy, you cant really do it without seeming like a pretentious faggot.
its like being some extremely roided dude that past the level that looks good. people dont think about your musclea first but the steroids and how much he cares about it.
the key in everything is finding a balance between seeming like you not caring and putting literal signs to something while doing your best you can

>>14122302
>seem effortless which means is good without giving away a fact there is much trying and pressure behind it.
desu i dress prep and agree with you. which is also why i think it only works if youve been raised like that
you can only pull it off when you dont give a shit. when it is nonchalant, when you dont care about footwear scuffs, or wrinkled shirts.
people who dont have been raised in prep always overdo it. dont wear a tie or sportscoat when it is not appropriate, people didnt do that back then either
also when you dress prep and all your mates are wearing hoodies that's weird. im upper class so have upper class mates who dress like me which makes it better
>>14114338
That being said, i dont know why people on this board get so buttmad over chinos, and oxford shirt and loafers, shit is inoffesive as fuck compared to full rick gothninja autism
>>14122264
>>14122225
maybe im just 'sheltered' like you say, but where im from hoodies and jeans is definetly not accepted casual wear for someone over the age of 23. maybe in STEM circles it is accepted

>>14122357
and i forgot to add: prep is really close to regular adult-core
like derbies or loafers, chinos or wool pants and a shirt is just how your average 40yo dresses, like what is the big deal lmao

>>14122357
>maybe im just 'sheltered' like you say, but where im from hoodies and jeans is definetly not accepted casual wear for someone over the age of 23. maybe in STEM circles it is accepted

Hoodies are fine. Not great, I personally don't care for them, but they're fine. I live in NYC and no one would look twice. I'd argue that people wear hoodies until they die. I.e., I see old men in their 60's wearing hoodies and I see men in their teens.

>like derbies or loafers, chinos or wool pants and a shirt is just how your average 40yo dresses, like what is the big deal lmao

If I had to make an average boomercore "WHAT DOES AN AVERAGE AMERICAN WEAR?" persona casual outfit it would look like this

Jacket: A hoody, maybe a sweatshirt or a crew neck sweater
Shirt: a graphic t-shirt that is relatively simple, or a solid color t-shirt
Belt: generic casual leather
Pants: Jeans in a straight fit (often light wash), 5 pocket twills or very casual cheap chinos.
Shoes: black gym shoes, rockports, clarks.

For summer, you'd remove the jacket and MAYBE trade the pants for shorts. For winter, you'd either layer a heavier shell jacket onto it or you'd replace the jacket with a heavier altogether jacket. For shoes, you'd replace it with a not-so-expensive fake leather boot you buy from a department store in winter or fall.

Keep in mind, this is average. This is what I'd say the majority of Americans wear everyday for casual.

It makes me think of Republicans, who I generally don’t like. Same reason you probably don’t like soi-core workwear hipster shit: it evokes a certain ideology

>>14122158
>Not wearing prep to fit in with wealthy Chinese friends/gf.
Never going to make it or just flyover subhumans

>>14122120
>>14114606
europeasants will never look like jfk

>>14122416
lol pauper

>>14122416
Need I remind you what comes to most people's minds when they think of democrats?

>>14122686
I live and grew up in Vancouver. I don’t know what kind of Chinese are where you live, but our Chinese wear ridiculous rhinestone-encrusted designer clothes and only date among themselves. Also, it must be said that every guy who dresses that way here in UBC is such a yuppie first-year business student that everyone wants to stab them.

>>14117215
kek

>>14114338
I dress like a WASP on the purpose of excercising and displaying the ethic of white superiority.

>>14114338
Dressing preppy is the equivalent of sweating yourself in a charity run and being proud of winning it by nearly dying while every other person is running comfortably in their own pace

>>14114364
>3 days and 80 replies later
lmao

>inferiority complex
this is why trad/prep/ivy styles is fucking laughed at. people who ascribed to it think they are superior when 99% of them don't even go to harvard and just cosplay larping.

also it is ugly af and reeks of boomer validation seeking. these people were probably unloved by their parents and think emulating them will make them feel approval

>>14121991
tell us what style of clothes you wear my friend

>>14114338
who cares lol

they're probably just poor or ugly, short and brown (or all 3)

who gets so mad over clothes, ones that look nice as hell too

>>14123505
in my experience its the opposite, they had exceptionally good relationships with their parents and no need to do faux rebellion

just like guys who listen to classic rock usually have a good relationship with their dads

>>14123505
Lol this exactly. just look at this thread. people talking about how upper class they are and using their wealth as an excuse why people hate them. its pathetic. no different than hypebeasts who wear ugly but expensive clothes just to signal wealth
its just a boomer way of "flexing"

>>14114338
I don't know how a sweater and a shirt under it is it's own style or why that makes you rich

>>14122995
Why does 'WASP' need a 'W', Anglo-Saxons can only be white. Also if wasp was an acroyn for a brown group it would be as bad as 'nigger' by now lmao

>>14123539
Wearing an expensive sweater with no branding is the opposite of wearing expensive yet ugly logo-laden clothes.

>>14123824
I think that the W originally stod for wealthy

>>14123831
It appears you are correct, I looked into it and it appears the 'W' (which is either 'white' or 'weathy') was added to form 'a humerous epithet with an undertone of waspishness'.

>>14115832

Nigger please. You don't have to be upper class. You do need to be civilised and confident, though. In the way you walk, (don't) speak and behave in general.

>>14120238
the shitskins ruin everything
>>14117596
also don't do this if you don't live in an anglo area it really makes no sense and looks like you're larping. it makes me shudder that some wog is larping my aesthetic

>>14125717
so you own prep?