/fa/ - Fashion

Is the strap width for the casio F105W the same as it is for the F91W (18mm)? It should by all logic be 18mm, but Amazon's product listing says its 22mm, but that sounds wrong to me.

>>14085273
You’re in the wrong thread bud. >>14084386

This is my watch, I love it. It suits my ethos and aesthetics, and no one in my office thought about rocking it. They’re either ignorant about fashion or tryhard hipsters with DW-like watches. I’m like, here I am, a non tryhard, with non tryhard music taste but still patrician. Like, I look like I don’t have to tryhard to be cool, cus I’m already cool and chill without having to think much about it. But I’m also not ignorant about fashion. I wear regular fit shirt, slim black pants (cropped), and black sneakers. Usually, the higher the shoes, the higher I would roll the pants. The bottom of the pants shouldn’t stack or cover the top of the shoes. So imagine rolling the pants and wearing high top black chuck taylor, black pants and shoes, with buttoned shirts that has unique color. Nice. Not too tryhard, not too snobby, but enough to make people categorize me as one of the cool people with cool solid non tryhard taste.

Yet I still have no friend and am a virgin.

>>14085278
fuck off namefag

>>14085310
Nice pasta anon

I bought this one about a week ago for $20.
was it a good deal?

I would say post your finest watch but knowing this place.. post your nasty shitters

>>14085895

>>14085895

>>14086082
Yeah a real nasty shitter right there anon.
Post your actual nasty shitters.

>>14086082
>>14086104
you lads are proving me wrong so far

Shitter

>>14086176
Nice ARF V7

>>14086181
Purchased from DavidSW and had it inspected and verified by a gemologist at a Rolex AD for insurance purposes. It also keeps absolutely exceptional time, gaining or losing a second every 2 or 3 days depending on how I rest it at night. So yes, it's fake

>>14086147
Oh sorry.

What a foul threadsplit.

>>14086392
Isn’t the other thread locked/full?

>>14086431
No the OP image got deleted because the OP was a horny jackass who wanted to use a titty image even though his exact same thread got deleted the previous day when the spam happened. It only has 170 posts and can still be used.

>>14086476
Sounds like the perfect thread for the rolex shills

I need a watch that is minimal like Junghaus but not giant as fuck. Help me.

>>14086613
DANIEL WELLINGTON

>>14086617
stop with these shit memes

>>14086613
>>14086617
>>14086624
Do it. DW. Fuck mechanical shitters, vive le quartz

>>14086629
Based

>>14086613
Why not go for a serviced vintage piece

>>14085123
who makes a good G10 style watch?

Fuck guys I got hired in december at 47k and my boss me with.m me yesterday to tell me they gave me too good an offer for my currents skills and until they train me more they can only pay me 39k. I’ve been a meet my whole life so I didn’t know how to react to this...anyway this is watch related cus that few grand after taxes was supposed to be for a nice watch.

>>14087034
Do a bingo of a stereotypical watchfag

so meranom sells stainless steel amphibia cases and bezels now. are they any good?

>>14085715
For me its the mtp 1183

Been looking for a nice Casio watch. Opinions on this watch?

>>14087243
Well, this isn't nice that's for sure.

>>14087249
Really? Is it too bulky or something? The other watch I've been thinking of is pic related.

>>14086349
Hey im a new fag when it comes to watches. This looks like a Casio f91w. What’s the difference between this one and the Casio?

>>14087243
you can get one for way under 20 bucks, they will last, are watertight, batteries last, they don't have a light and the buttons are hard to access unless you are a chick or a kid or n posession of a pen. It's gonna have the usual digi clock functions as well as addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. Nothing you couldn't come up with on your own. It's kind of obsolete since smart phones make any calculation much easier. On the other hand it is really cheap, looks interesting if you are into the alien movies and lasts on you/disposable enough to wear it all the time.

But be aware that npc's will start asking stupid questions about it.

>>14087243
and make sure you aren't that faggot where it beeps like every goddamn hour.

>>14087418
>they don't have a light
Yeah I feel like that's something that is kind of holding me back. I want to be able to use the watch in dark settings but the other calculator watch looks uglier.
>npc's will start asking stupid questions about it.
Like what kind of questions?

>>14087428
"What is that"
"What are the buttons for"
"Why do you have that"
You know, just the most basic NPC questions.
I mean don't be fooled by the fact that it looks like a calculator watch from like 10 meters away, they won't puzzle that together on their own.

I personally hate to be that guy explaining a gadget and like I said it's kind of obsolete by now.

But that's just my personal experience and I'm really allergic to pointless conversations.
It's a good, cheap casio after all.
I am really antisocial if that didn't come through btw lol.

Why can't omega bring back the sword hands?

power reserve indicator on the dial, good or bad?

>>14087516
that depends on whether it's a good PR or a bad PR

this narrow strap makes it look like a woman's watch, doesn't it?

>>14087516

Good, but rarely well executed

>>14087604
isn't it better to have it on the back like I saw a grand seiko had?

nothing beats whipping out a citizen watch

>>14087616
better than what? They're fine on the dial as long as long as you don't go full JDM seiko

>>14087695
better than what?
better than on the dial, obviously, dumbass
I've never owned a watch with a power reserve indicator but I suspect it might be distracting. I've never even owned a watch that could be hand wound, but is a power reserve indicator even useful, can't you just wind it if it stops, or wind it before you go to bed.

>>14087695
>better than what?
better than on the dial, obviously, dumbass
I've never owned a watch with a power reserve indicator but I suspect it might be distracting. I've never even owned a watch that could be hand wound, but is a power reserve indicator even useful, can't you just wind it if it stops, or wind it before you go to bed.

why did watch thread get moved to this board when watches are marvels of mechanical and materials engineering?

>>14085310
Good but not great. 6/10.
I like my pasta al dente

>>14085645
No I’m serious.

>>14087950
That is some major cuckage but it says he's never owned a seiko before. What kind of watches led him to get a vasectomy?

>>14087956
Nice watch Jim!

-Richard
Sent via TapaTalk on my iPhone 3GS

>>14087959
>first Seiko diver

>>14087543
Lay off the coke man

>>14087961
can you message this cuck and find out if his pre-op collection contained non-seiko divers or non-diver seikos?

>>14087950
The absolute state of /r/watches and Söyko weebs

>>14087985

>>14087976
absolutely not

>>14087999

my shitter

>>14088005
I'm surprised that combination of thin bar indices and roman numerals made it past the design stage.

>>14085123
Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause.

desu i think i want to buy a gold GS with a quartz movement

S T U N N E R

desu its pretty impressive craig slept with the hoola hoop girl

Thoughts on stowa watches?

>>14088175
pure class desu

>>14088184
ok ciao

tracking says my watch is getting sorted to go out for delivery tomorrow.
Here's hoping 42mm isn't too big for my girly wrists

>>14088239
what did you get? Sea urchin?

>>14088175
pretty fucking neato

>>14088175
Great except for the stupid glass caseback

>>14087992
do springbars actually fail or is this a meme?

>>14087452
they should, those look so much better than those janky Ms. sketal hands

>>14087034
They're all so fucking shitty, there is a huge void in the market for a true patrician watch reviewer. If I had more disposable income I would step up to the plate.

For me, it's the SKX007.

>>14088371
I want to like these and especially the 013 but the case design is so fucking ugly. If they put it in pic related case it would be the most popular watch out there. It's like they have to purposely gimp it in order to make their expensive watches relevant.

>>14088374
What is it about the case that bothers you? I like that aesthetic.

>>14088382
The bezel knurling is huge and blocky like it's intended for a preschooler. The lugs are amorphous blobs that look like randomly melted down metal. Off center crowns are ugly, crown guards are ugly. It's way overly polished when a dive watch should have mainly brushed non reflective surfaces.

Mesh marlin is ultra effay

damn I wish I had this in jr. high school instead of some casio bullshit

>>14088366
>do springbars actually fail or is this a meme?

Not that anon, but it's happened to me twice with different watches.

Both times it happened while they were on leather straps. If something tugs on the strap at an angle hard enough it can pull the spring bar far enough to pop out.

Can't imagine it happening if the watch is on a steel bracelet though.

>>14088366
>there is a huge void in the market for a true patrician watch reviewer
but is there is a market in the void?

>>14088868
Apart from the Casio’s it’s all wannabe Swiss watches. Sad collection right there. Submariner, Day-Date, Royal Oak, GMT Master. The sad state of söyko boys

DON'T fucking start dropping shit like "hurr save up and buy a Rolex" NO FUCK YOU NO FUCKING WAY I'M DROPPING 7K on a fucking 20yo used Submariner, NEVER EVER.
Even if I could afford it, it would be absolutely out of place on me and in my social circles. I don't want to be fucking stabbed in the street for a fucking stupid wristwatch.
This said, should I cop pic related? If not why and what are the alternatives.

>>14088984
> Buy that
> Wear it out
> Get stabbed int he street because a thug thinks it's a Rolex.

>>14088984
Assuming this is the one with the ETA 2892-A2 movement, yes. Absolutely. Its a fucking bargain.

Personally I hate divers though.

>>14088994
Ah, it has a 2824.

Get the upgraded one for a bit more money

>>14088366
in the picture you can clearly see the redditor has the strap death gripping his wrist, so the spring bar popped.

>>14088984
>nasty cheap shitter with zero resale value

>Wearing a watch on your right side

>>14088984
No, steinharts are way too big and bulky looking with stupid flat long lugs. And you'll look like an idiot wearing a blatant sub copy. I used to own one. Good alternatives include getting an actual sub if that's what you really want, or finding something else that isn't a ripoff.

>>14088984
>>14088868
Watches like this are even worst than fakes.

I've seen this in the shitters store near my place... I kinda like it, thoughts?

Get me woke me on racist watches.
What's shitter level like?

>>14086613
There's vintage Omegas.

>>14089408
Sure, if you like that 'Father time bust a serious nut on my dial' kinda look....

>>14089268
I just ordered mako 2. I like the look much more than seikos skx shit.

>>14089089
>check case dimensions
>50mm lugs to lugs
Yikes

You guys seen this dutch faggot before?

https://youtu.be/AP2HXezNWX4

>>14089778
I hate the Dutch.
Literally every Dutch person I ever met had small hands and smelled like cabbage

>>14089778
All his videos are just adverts for watches he's trying to sell in his shop.

>>14088339
Engineer II magnetoS from ball. I work around magnets sometimes

>>14089778
Why is he cosplaying as Gordon Ramsay?

>>14089778
>>14089782
But the Dutch girls though. All three in this thread: >>14089478

I need a watch, recommend me a good watch.

>>14090002
Daniel Wellington. DW ALL THE WAY.

>>14090010
That is a nigger watch, I don't want a niggerwatch, recommend me a proper white mans watch.

>>14090014
Post on the other thread, there’s a format there.

>>14090002
Under 200$ orient, 500$ tissot, 1000$ Hamilton

>>14090002
Rolex Explorer, Tudor Black Bay or Pelagos

>>14090002
Casio f-91w

>>14090002
If you know nothing about watches - Rolex

If you know a lot about watches - Rolex or vintage Rolex.

I got this for 40 euros, it is a Ruhla antimagnetic. Is there any way to mod the color of the stainless case?

>>14087624
did you get that at ross?

>>14089778
I fucking hate youtube channels that they make videos in english and also in their mother language because every time they title the video in english, regardless of the language.

>>14088366
>for a true patrician watch reviewer

A R C H I E L U X U R Y

>>14088984
jesus fuck just get a fake at that point. your paying how much here for something slightly better than a fake?

>>14090197
He's shit. You learn nothing viewing his channel except he's a twat and to buy a MotM just because.

>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Timex-Mens-Elevated-Classics-30m-Blue-Dial-Stainless-Steel-Watch-T2N9769J/192642513876

cop or not?

>>14090002
A Lange & Söhne Datograph Perpetual.

>>14090300
>Timex
Not. Timex was good at one time, and there are some pretty awesome vintage Timex's, but they have become remarkably shitty in an effort to drive down prices. Like crown-falls-off-after-3-days shitty.
Look at some of Seiko and Citizen's watches, those are still good. I found my late grandpa's Citizen which hadn't been touched in at least 17 years, popped in a battery, and it now works fine.

>>14089304

Isn't this imagine wrong?

The second pusher is just for a reset.

>>14086613
I just bought the Sternglas Naos for £168

breddy gud

>>14088984

Get a Seiko SLA017. Grand Seiko quality watch, aesthetic as fuck.

Imagine trying to explain to a young basketball american what a SEIKO is.

>>14090409

>>14090409

The short lugs make it look weird. But long lugs like the sort Nomos uses also looks weird.

>>14090409
>>14090434

I think wire lugs look the best for that minimalist design

>>14090429
autistic incel

>>14087452
Looks so much better. The current hands look like cheap shit

>>14089268
I like the indices and hands on the Mako USA better. Is the movement even upgraded or anything? Not really seeing the point of this release, it does look a lot better than the regular Mako II though.

>>14086471
Why the fuck can I not find that exact model of Seiko? What model is it?

>>14089717
gay cunt

Thoughts on vintage watches? I've found myself really into them lately, particularly Hamiltons before they became generic Swiss shitterd

>>14090791
SSA387J1

>>14087039
Also interested in this

might be dumb, but it's nice to look at and starts a convo every now and again. my gramps wears a classic one and got me this one a couple of years ago. wear it every day

>>14090116
You mean like electroplating?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEEZ2ifuSI

Is the Combat Sub a fucking shitter?

Okay so this was my grandfather’s first watch (note that the days are written in Hindi)
I was thinking of getting it gold plated again and changing the glass.

What else do you think I should do to improve it?

>>14091335
hi pajeet

>>14091335
Bin it.

>>14091345
Hey racist anon

>>14091346
Nope, it means so much to me
And believe it or not, it has got me compliments

>>14091335
As far as i'm aware there are no watchmaker will ever "re gold plate" anything, if it really means a lot to you, just put it on a shelf.

>>14091421
Some street shitter in designated shitting country would definitely replate gold plated items though

>>14091421
There are tons of places that will replate it. U serious?

>>14091450
Then have it done and don’t ask us Patel maderchod

>>14088879
>>14089208
imgur.com/a/YYvoN

>>14091335
That plating is shit, I think you should replace it with a stainless steel case and bracelet.
Also, there is no lume, get a full lumed dial.
Also english day is more effay, get a movement with english day and date.
Pic related, it has all the necessary replacements in one package made ready for you. Just order it and enjoy the continued life of your grandpa's watch.

TGV fucked with the wrong guy, check out the latest news here!

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/urban-gentry-4881977-28.html?fbclid=IwAR1zsVxFtvwfwViFRvqkOaFQncGYSDnQvvtLSsrNYwHKshd6vwYe-jyGIlI#post48100817

https://www.instagram.com/p/BroOaL3A9Kz/

>>14091539
Nigga it’s on the other thread

>>14091543
So? Why cant I post it here?

>>14091546
Because the other thread has relevant juicy screen grabs?

>>14091549
Irrelevant
Fuck off

>>14091539
>tristano emailed me this, check it:
>whoops, can't show private messages on my forum! t. Admin

>>14091552
Classic WUS

>>14091555
They’re in bed with Ginault too. People posting proof of Ginault being started by TC, TC-Sub replica maker were getting deleted because they’re naming the replica forum in their posts.

Thoughts on this?

>>14088167
>craig slept with the hoola hoop girl
He did?
Craig is such a know it all though. I like Archie and his carpet beetles better.

>get a shiny Seiko
>despite babying it somehow get a tiny scratch on the case
>annoys me more than it should
Next one I get should have case hardening, which brands do it? It can be quartz or mechanical.

Got this in the mail today, family finally convinced me to buy a swiss watch. I work around magnets sometimes,probably not enough to warrant an anti-gauss watch. Really went for the Magneto because the iris shielding mechanism is too sick and I like the face/indices
I tried a bunch of watches on in person but slept on them because I didn't want to shell out for the Omega.
This watch is so much more comfy than the omega's were though (weight wise) and the tritium is badass.

>>14091677
Just make sure the next one has a sapphire crystal.

>>14091677
The only watches that don't scratch are tungsten carbide.

>>14091579
gross

Interesting vid for rolex lovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVl0ahot1tQ

>>14091702
wonder what made the watch un-salvageable enough to destroy it

>>14091727
I wondered that myself. The guys who sent him the watch deliberately destroyed a working rolex just to compare what's inside a real rolex and a fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M7rQ2BoS4w

>>14091682
>what kind of watch is that anon?
>It's a ball

>>14091702
unbelievable autism

>>14091335
>What else do you think I should do to improve it?
Bin it, then kys yoursel. You street shitting sub-human filth.

My conversion kit to make my GW-M5610 to a steel bezel & bracelet arrived today. It's pretty decent quality, solid steel bezel and solid links on the bracelet. The clasp is milled too, not stamped.

>>14091727
Even if the movement was completely destroyed (it wasn't) and had to be totally replaced it would still be worth many thousands of dollars more than the base metal and diamond value.

That guy essentially set on fire $5000.

>>14091853
You spend your money on odd things anon

>>14091864
I think that if a watch has been serviced from a non-rolex-authorized agent, Rolex will refuse to work on or supply parts to that watch.

>>14091864
apparently dollar shave club (sponsor) paid for the watch and the plan all along was to destroy it. It was surprising to see the crystal survive a hit from a window breaker tool

>>14087109
This.
It's fedora levels of cringe. If you are so self absorbed that you can't see thru the marketing BS of these luxury brands, you are a huge bitch. Owning expensive stuff is fine, but being elitist about it or letting it define you, that's where stuff makes you look silly.

>>14091876
Makes sense but still that's a lot of money to just throw away.

>>14091872
Not true. Any Rolex AD will take a real watch to service. What they will not take is after market mods like DLC.

>>14091853
Oh hi there

>>14091733
> Takes the back off both watches
> Fake has a terrible chink shitter movement.
> Shows them to the camera and says "there is very little difference"
haha, this guy knows absolutely nothing about watches.

>>14091894
>that's a lot of money to just throw away.
Maybe shave club figured 7.5k was a reasonable price for 2 million people to see their shit. What I don't get is who wants to see 2 retards poking around inside a rolex like a pair of albino niggers.

>>14091870
Thanks, I quite like the look of the steel G-Shock but I ain't paying that much.
>>14091902
'Sup. You were right, it's pretty decent quality.

>>14091170
tbfh i like that watch great story too

>>14091853
Can you post a few shots of the back?

>>14091945
The caseback or the clasp? The caseback is the standard M5610 one.

>>14092023
You know that crud around the screws is your skin right? How did this kind of caseback survive past the 80's?

Just got this from my dad yesterday for my birthday. 90s Speedmaster triple date. Didn't think I'd like such a busy dial but it's kinda neat. Lume has turned super yellow which I like. Need to see if Omega still sells links for the bracelet, amazingly somebody is more of a wristlet than I am.

>>14092045
what's with the red shit and the number

>>14092053
It's the tag Crown and Caliber puts on shit so you can still return it. Leaving it on until I find out later if Omega can get me a link.

>>14092058
Ohhhhh I thought your dad was handing it down to you. If he just bought it from a shop that's kinda less cool.

>>14091402
indians aren't a race

>>14092065
Eventually I'll get his Speedmaster Professional, but I appreciate it nonetheless. It's an upgrade from any shitter I had. It doesn't have the sentiment of handing it down but it wasn't cheap, either

>>14092080
Wait he actually has a speedy? Oh dear. uh congratulation anon.

>>14092095
Yep. He's got a Speedy, a GMT Master 2, and 2 different Submariners.

>>14092102
Look I can't say anything nice about what's happened so I'll just say nothing

Can anyone identify Depp's watch?

>>14092045
>mfw anon's dad gives him a $2,500 watch for his birthday, while my dad dies and leaves my slag stepmom everything and me literally not a penny.

>>14091853
S
S
BEZEL

>>14092213
Let's hope you roll away from the tree little apple.

Anyway, gift watches are meaningless. The one you earn feels better on your wrist.

I've gained weight and started to go to gym so it doesn't look as bad now.

>>14092225
earning a material good would imply that I endorse the system of market capitalism that is destroying the planet and reduces human life to wage slavery, which I don't.

>>14092222
checked
Anyway, I went around looking for some Sea Urchins today but couldn't find any in stores. However, many SKX were available; I tried one. I saw one dude trying out Max Bill's and asking for the quartz version of it. Later bumped into him again at another store, trying some DW-like shit.

>>14092225
True that, shitters I received end up binned some way or another. Not my own shitters though, I cherish that shit.

>>14092258
What's the alternative, if you don't mind /pol/ing it up?

If you had 800€/$ to spend on a watch, what would you buy?

>>14092274
probably not a watch

>>14092274
A Max Bill Hand-wound or try and find a Halios Seaforth second hand.

>>14092274
vintage military is still pretty affordable and looks great. The thing about modern watches is you have to spend like over $2000 just to have something not-shitty.

>>14092023
That is what I wanted, seems like a nice fit.
Makes me want to do one myself.

>>14092268
Socialism, or at least a universal basic income. We live in such a scientifically advanced time that everyone's basic needs could be easily met if some basic socialist principles were applied.

>>14092247
It still looks like a bad fake even if you're fat or not.

>>14092289
the problem with UBI is that it requires the sacrifice of either a class of people or a resource to be viable. at the end of the day, there isn't any form of income that isn't derived from either exploiting a person and their skills, or the planet. not to mention that the inflation would be fucking insane.
not here to derail, just musing. agree to disagree?

>>14092279
>dress divers

>>14092289
>>14092299
original asking guy here, I think UBI doesn't work because everyone values income/leisure differently, ie some people would just be lazy fucks that leech off others.

>>14092213
That's what happens when you remarry, same shit happened to my wife when her dad died. Can't do shit about it, just buy yourself your own watch and try not to fuck over your kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu8CBx8j70Y

>yeah bro, just wear a Vincero and you'll look like the ultimate badass!

>>14092288
Yeah, it fits as good as the standard bezel did. I recommend it if you want a steel G-Shock but don't want to spend big bucks.

>>14092274
Vintage Seamaster.

>>14092247
get something smaller

>>14092299
If you just made it illegal for any one person to have more than say 5 million dollars, that's more than enough. In ancient Greece if a citizen was found to be hoarding money they would be harangued and beaten publicly. The laws should make people virtuous.

>>14092308
That's fine if some people do nothing; birth should not be allowed unless the state can afford a new citizen. But I think most people would find ways to contribute by following the passions they are excluded from in the current job environment in an informal way.

>>14092315
Thanks anon. I like to build watches as a hobby so there are a lot of options. You can even put together something like a Submariner from parts pretty affordably if you decide that originality isn't that important to you.

>>14092365
tell me more about watchbuilding anon, sounds really cool. love these kinds of projects

Anybody ever purchased a watch from creationwatches.com? Are they good? Seems cheap, but the website looks a bit unprofessional.

>>14092385
They have really good prices and the citizens and seikos I've ordered from them are legit. If something goes wrong you're kinda fucked though. Much better to try to get it fixed than to send it all the way back to Asia.

>>14092370
It depends on your interests, but most of the popular sport watches have a lot of replacement parts floating around on the grey market. If you get a complete movement then you just need a handful of parts: dial, hands, case, crown, etc.

It doesn't take that much skill or experience to put a watch together, just watch some YouTube videos of people servicing watches. You just need patience and the ability to deal with some small parts. The hardest part is probably fitting the hands perfectly but there are tools to help (which I never use lol)

Pic related is my 50s Tudor that I gradually acquired parts for. People would call it fake but an original of this reference is a six figure watch, radioactive and probably beat to hell. So I'll take my fake that I can actually wear every day, dive with, and not worry about.

>>14092408
that's actually really cool. I'm used to dealing with tiny, finicky parts so that's not a huge deal. is there a market for building watches strictly from parts to create something to your taste, or is it a primarily rebuild market?

>>14092351
Imagine actually thinking somebody owes you their money because they're more successful.

>>14092415
Well the watch case kind of delineates what's possible and generally replacement cases are the hardest thing to get as like genuine parts. Lots of people make reproduction cases and they are usually based on popular real world watches. But taking a case based on a popular design, you can really go your own way with it, for instance there are people that produce custom printed dials.

>>14092425
Imagine actually thinking your success as a human being is determined by how much money you're able to acquire.

>>14092446
only people who can't get money think this

>>14092351
If you make it illegal for people to have X amount of money then they'll have no choice but to ditch you, this is even worse than just taxing them. Also, introducing parasitic drag to the economy as part of the design is retarded.

>>14092454
only npc's trained to think slaving for money is the purpose of their life think this

>>14092459
They can't ditch you when they are in jail for being too fucking greedy

>>14092446
Sure, it's a big part of it. Absolutely no worries about providing for your family without relying on government handouts. Having a comfortable life and things you want. Sounds great.

>>14092471
>poor people arrest rich man in society where everyone is designed to be poor
>implying rich man won't just bribe his way out of it
even if your cops were as hardline party loyalist as physically possible, feeding yourself and your children will always take precedence over political convictions - a variant on this is why politicians are so fucking corrupt.

>>14092351
You are so retarded it’s unbelievable. Even if you equalized the amount of money everyone had, the disparity would reappear in a matter of months as the financially savvy continue to exploit the uneducated and lazy. Stay in school.

Is my new beater any good?

>>1409248
How exactly does a formerly rich man bribe anyone after his money has been confiscated?
And no one is going to be poor anymore unless it's by choice, exactly because of these measures.

>>14092485
The problem here is that you've been Jewed into thinking "government handouts" are bad instead of the basis for a just society.

>>14092514
Way to produce a bunch of strawmen and then criticize my intelligence, fitting

>>14092533
Do you know what a pareto distribution is?

>>14092515
Not bad, I wish the numerals were a little different but you could do way worse.

>>14092351
>If you just made it illegal for any one person to have more than say 5 million dollars,
Why though?
>that's more than enough.
For what? To live, raise a child, fuck my wife and perhaps a few prostitutes on the side, sure. To start a new undertaking on the scale of say Tesla and Space-X? Probably not..
>In ancient Greece if a citizen was found to be hoarding money they would be harangued and beaten publicly.
Yes, and little boys were assfucked by wise experienced men to prepare them for manhood. What the fuck do the Greeks have to do with anything?
>The laws should make people virtuous.
People should be virtuous in their own right, or or wouldn't be a virtue.. Laws are there to sanction those that society deems to be unvirtuous..

>That's fine if some people do nothing; birth should not be allowed unless the state can afford a new citizen. But I think most people would find ways to contribute by following the passions they are excluded from in the current job environment in an informal way.

Read Adam Smith, and don't forget the Theory of Moral Sentiments.

>>14092446

They're more succesful financially, clearly.. And if that isn't relevant anyway, why try to take their financial wealth?

>>14092464

What is the purpose of your life, anon?

>>14092533

Government handouts ARE bad though. Promotes shitty behavior, and attracts undesirables as if it were nothing.

t. living in European state with some of the best social security on the world.

Still sick, still not working on watches, still haven't posted the customs forms for my 7A28 Bishop.

Also this arrived. It's in really good condition, but I couldn't even see if it's working yet, as there isn't a single SR44 battery around me, all my batteries are in my workplace bench.

>>14092549
>t. living in European state with some of the best social security on the world.
while I agree with your post, it's also important to note that the reason US social security sucks is because of defense. due to NATO/UN allies, the US basically has to be the world's policeman - and has done that for 70 years. despite expecting a couple % of GDP per member nation to be spent on defense, all but like 3 countries fail to follow this rule, and even then the ones that do so, do not add much capability to the coalition.
the reason euros can afford socialism is because they don't have the massive money furnace that is defense spending. dollars to donuts, if the EU had to defend themselves, at least 50% of that socialist shit would go right out the window. it's a shame about the US, we do deserve better social safety nets, but you fuckers don't pay your bills.

>>14092566
>the US basically has to be the world's policeman
I think you meant to say that the US is Israels dog

>>14092578
I mean yeah, but my point still stands

>>14092566
>it's also important to note that the reason US social security sucks is because of defense.
'defense' of what, is the real question.. 'Interests' is the answer, but all that does is pose more questions.
>due to NATO [allies]
If anything it's the US that always pushed for NATO. Stated by a US-lead commission, with forming a strategic block against the Ruskies in mind. Basically NATO-turf is prime tactical real estate for situating prime tactical Nukes on right on the USSR's border (and later Russian Federation)
>/UN allies,
The UN consists of almost literally every nation state or what passes as or pretends to be such. Calling them 'allies' is a stretch, even for the US.
>the US basically has to be the world's policeman
*wants
Leaving aside if it has positive effects or results, lets not pretend that there's anyone forcing the US to do anything.

>and has done that for 70 years. despite expecting a couple % of GDP per member nation to be spent on defense, all but like 3 countries fail to follow this rule, and even then the ones that do so, do not add much capability to the coalition.

While I agree that everyone should be meething the 2% norm (we're currently at 1,2% or some shit IIRC), even if all members DID meet that 2%, the bulk of NATO spending would still be done by the US, more because that's just what the US government does than for any other reason.

>the reason euros can afford socialism is because they don't have the massive money furnace that is defense spending.

Can't speak for all euros, but the main reason the Netherlands could fund it is because we sold natural gas. But that's being stopped as we speak, because earthquakes. Oops.

>if the EU had to defend themselves, at least 50% of that socialist shit would go right out the window.
Remember that it's socialism that NATO aimed to defend against
>it's a shame about the US, we do deserve better social safety nets, but you fuckers don't pay your bills.
We pay insane taxes.

>>14092549
Yeah I'm not going to reply point by point in a thread for talking about watches, but I'm a classics major and I've read Adam Smith. His ideas are a great way to organize an efficient society and bring the standard of living up enormously, but it's not a permanent solution and the problems we see it causing, which pretty drastically affect quality of life in myriad ways (not just poverty), are only going to get worse. Which is exactly what Marx says, by the way.

Great watch discussion guys. Truly interesting posts about horology, real fucking in depth.

>>14092606
>netherlands
how does it feel living in a country that isn't real?
at any rate, I think we are pretty much in agreement. thanks for the good discussion. what kind of watches do you like, so we stop shitting up the thread?
I really have a boner for classic military/diver style, as boring as that is.

>>14092566
>>14092606

>We pay insane taxes.

Ran out of characters, but I cannot emphasise enough just how obscenely high taxes are in this country. 21% sales tax, 30-40-50% progressive scaled income tax, 78,5 cents tax per liter of gasoline. (fixed amount. and that 21% sales tax earlier? also applied to that part of gas price.. over 50% of the actual price of gas is taxes).

I could go on, but I'm feeling sleepy all of a sudden tbqh.. tl;dr: If you think Euros are living cheap and easy due to US defense spending, you're sadly mistaken.

Is this the watch thread or /pol/ ?

>>14092613
Apologies, I was triggered by anon who was gifted a speedmaster for his birthday, and this resulted.

I fell for the Alpinist meme and regret it completely

>>14092610
>Yeah I'm not going to reply point by point in a thread for talking about watches

Just pick the juicy bits. Nobody ever forced me to read Marx (unlike Smith) btw, so I can't comment on that.. The only reason I recommened it was because the term 'passions' triggered a flashback..

>>14092617
>how does it feel living in a country that isn't real?

inb4 you think we should be Germany, even though they're the not-real ones.

Watch related: I like chronographs like >>14092623

Also have meme related.. Actually looking to expand with a dive watch, but I'm too autistic settle just yet. Gotta find one that's just right..

>>14092642
>I like chronographs

But not Speedies, for some reason..

>>14092642
I like your seiko, anon. I can actually afford it too. I was looking at an MWC G10, but today I've added a casio diver and apparently a seiko 809 to the next purchase list.

Why tissot watches are so cheap? I

>>14092628
>I'm upset people wealthier than I exist, therefore I will sperg out.

>>14092652

I got it on a bracelet and got the NATO on alixpress. If you can get one without a bracelet for cheaper, I'd recommend that as it's kinda shit. It does have the same finish as the case, which is nice I suppose..

>>14092610
These issues can be fixed by removing undesireables, e.g. gang members

>>14092658
No one wants them.

>>14092652
>MWC

Never heard of them before I think. Looking at ther website, they have some cool stuff.. I really like type-B flieger dials. One of the reasons >>14092642 >>14092665 looks so good is that it's heavily type-B inspired imo.

>>14086613
NOMOS Glashütte makes various styles in sizes that you’ll probably like

>>14092642
>Just pick the juicy bits
Ok

>>14092549
>People should be virtuous in their own right, or or wouldn't be a virtue.. Laws are there to sanction those that society deems to be unvirtuous..
Society deems things to be virtuous or not based on our cultural character which is largely shaped by the laws. 500 years ago usury, lending money at interest, and avarice were legitimate crimes. They have now come to be the main tenets or our economic system, and thus individual virtues.

The "state of nature" is obviously based on self interest and the point of human government is to remove us from that state, so I believe it should do so as much as possible instead of merely translating "survival of the fittest" into an economic arena, which is what global capitalism has done.

>>14092675
But why? They are well known with long history and good build quality.

>>14087266
Unless you’re going to flex it with Ozweegos or some 80s/90s wave shit the calculator is just going to look autistic

They made it 42mm...
They had one job and they fucked it. Stupid American bloated watches.

>>14092684
Because they don't have any popular or memorable designs. These days they are just another generic cheap fashion brand.

>>14092692
agree it's terrible, but why would you ever want a pseud military watch called "khaki" when you can get the real thing for less>>14092285

>>14092632
Sell it, you can't lose money at the moment on those.

>>14092660
stay mad wagecuck

>>14092632
Well all have watch regrets anon and most of them are Seiko or shitters.

>>14092669
or librarians

>>14092632
I'd get this if it was 38mm

>>14092699
Because the murph looks better.

Can someone link me those Chinese watches with seiko movements?

>>14092719
But it is 38mm

>>14092816
yeah, but in diameter though

>>14092748
lol no. looks like a knockoff USMC

>>14087950
I wish that was me. I have 8 more years of child support. Fucking kill me already.

New here, what do you anon's think of my watch?

>>14092856
good for the great outdoors. not very fashionable

>>14092632
>$995 for a fucking hamilton
No thanks. I think the design is neat though. But yeah it's too big.

>>14092692
22mm lug width on a vintage inspired watch. How can they be so dumb.
Clueless company.

>>14092772
no

maybe next thread

>>14092692
I blame the Rolex maxi-pad setting the precedent that people want oversized trash.

>>14093086
it will go away in a decade or so

The Hawaiian sun makes this thing look great!

>>14093121
you look pale

>>14093157
I'm from Oregon, so neon white.

>>14093159
portland?

>>14092707
>make a comment
>get called a libertarian
>>>/leftypol/

>>14093121
why is there a door knob on the side?

>>14085123
new thread
>>14093205
>>14093205
>>14093205

>>14093206
It hasn't even hit the bump limit you faggot.

>>14093200
doorknob crowns are best crowns

>>14093210
be nice

>>14093234
no, the presage has the most obnoxious crowns.

>>14093235
sorry

>>14092709
I don't have any watch ragrets

>>14093164
Wilsonville, but basically yes. We left the day the snow hit.

>>14093246
mate the crown is literally the only part of that watch that looks good

>>14092151
>"larp as a poor person" watch

Am I doing it right?

why do all you fuckboys wear seiko's?

>>14092856
I got an Armitron. It was only 8 bucks, didn't think I'd like it but it wears comfortable and has held up really well. Good cheap fun throw away watches.

>>14093543
Are you happy? Does it match your personality/style? If so, yes

>>14093571
They have a range of watches to fit nearly any scenario/style/budget and do it pretty well

>>14093571
1. Seiko's are great for what they are (value for money)
2. The average person is of average wealth.
3. There is no evidence of the average 4chan/fa user being ultra-rich

>>14093571
I don't.

>>14087543
I like this