/fa/ - Fashion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rlLL7cOtw

How much should I mark up my watches?

>>13986625
Fuck those söyboys. Adam “Am I a white male” Savage.

>>13986625
>two millionaires have really basic watches and the favorite watch is just the omega which goes for like 4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2kNO61cjfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_ES9_Lfrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKYrNJCXHeo

>>13986636
>>13986625

Actually not söyboys, let me correct myself, bugmen. Fuck those bugmen. I’m also guessing you’re the guy trying to identify vsauce’s watch.

>>13986641
>watches being expensive because they're covered in diamonds
Doing it wrong. I'd be much more impressed by a JLC gyrotourbillon than some iced out nigger tier hublot.

>>13986627
100% Sell Them at 15$

>>13986662
he doesn't know anything about watches, he specifically knows popular brand names, going by the video where he had to buy watches for "executives" and bought like 10 rolex

>>13986647

>>13986641
>watch made out of pieces of the titanic

>>13986671
he was buying them for gifts and he specifically stated he wanted watches that looked more expensive than they were.
if you were buying a gift for someone to make a good impression would you get one with an impressive brand like Rolex or would you get something with Grand Seiko that all normies think is a bargain bin discount watch

>>13986614
Dunno why this retard keeps making new threads
Real one is this way:
>>13981882
>>13981882
>>13981882

>>13986667
This is my design. Do you think it’ll sell for 15$?

>>13986679
>buying people watches that look more expensive than they were
that's pretty smart actually but I can't help but think the people he bought for know what they're being handed

Can we please have one goddamn /wt/ at a time?

>>13986689
The Casio one threadsplitted. This is the real one.

>>13986681
Whoever made that thread is the retard. Why did he make it so early? Fucking autism. This one is the real one because it was made after the bump-limit

Take the dangle pill, brothers. Shitskins all over the world are wearing their watches loose, they seem to have some ancient knowledge about this.

Why yes, those are spacers.
Bead brothers are also welcome to join.
I'm a spirit level 1 dangler, 1 finger fits between the bracelet and wrist. I have not yet ascended to lvl 2 where my watch can rotate freely around my arm.

>>13986685
yeah but if you're getting a $15k Rolex for free would you complain about grand seiko's superior finishing or take it and smile?

>>13986681
Never make a new thread before bump limit again, autist

>>13986681
Wrong.

>>13986701
Dangling is so annoying and noisy though

>>13986702
if i was someone this guy has to buy things for to get favor I'd probably have mad money and hand a gifted rolex to some random stranger on the street just for kicks

>>13986683
This is chink design.

I FUCKING LOVE WATCHES

>>13986710
The spacers make a cute sound tho.

The nippons ruined a lot of things with their quartz shitter. Like the ticking seconds, it used to be a desirable complication called dead-beat seconds, ticking exactly once per second now it just cheapens the watch. Ultra-thin watches! „Any” watch can now be „ultra-thin” because of fucking quartz.

>>13986747
you're just upset they did it first
>The Astron was released less than a year prior to the introduction of the Swiss Beta 21, which was developed by 16 Swiss Watch manufacturers and used by Rolex, Patek and Omega in their electroquartz models.
The swiss were already working on their own quartz watches you dumb nigger

Where's a niBBa supposed to get a 6538 Sub homage for that vintage Bond aesthetic? All the various Sub lookalikes you see on eBay are patterned after more recent models.
I've considered getting a Black Bay homage and swapping the hands, but there has to be some option that doesn't involve modding.

>inb4 San Martin - I've only seen overpriced 6200 and 6204 clones from them

>>13986747
The NPC buyers ruined it tho. Nips were the first one to do it. If the mountain jews would have won that race, quartz would have gotten popular anyway.

I get the thing with the tickign complication. But why would you care if somebody tought that your super thin mechanical watch was quartz? If you like watches you buy it for yourself and not to be complimented like a pleb.
Nobody will really give a shit about a super slim mecha watch because the normies don't understand what's special about it.

>>13986756
>Forgetting about the CEH quartz prototype, the actual first quartz watch.

>>13986766
OWC bond watch
excellent watch from a man completely dedicated to quality,
this watch punches far above its price range

>>13986747
Dead-Beat seconds are still cool complications in automatics

>>13986775
Not really. That's only the first one that was publicly disclosed. Seiko had been working on theirs since the 1950's so considering that they were the first to market they probably had working prototypes before the CEH.

>>13986770
Normies don’t understand what’s special about them because of the rampant mass produced thin shitters. It undermines achievements made by horological houses when they release an ultra thin watch.

>>13986788
All assumptions, no citations.

>>13986747

>Seething

A ching chong nip tong to you, Anon.

>>13986699
>>13986704
Look at the times and post counts
Besides, weird for you to complain about bump limit when every GS troll thread is made before the bump limit.

>>13986795
it's a sound assumption. The CEH is from 1967 seiko had been working on quartz watches since 1958 and released it in 1969. You'd have to be pretty dumb to think seiko didn't have any prototypes before 67.
Lets play devils advocate and say the swiss are the true creators of the first quartz watch, so now the swiss are the ones responsible for nearly killing the swiss watchmaking industry?

>>13986789
Normies don't understand what's special about anything because they check the time on their phone or their apple watch or their fitbit and the only watch brands they've ever heard of are the ones in their rap music videos.

Why do you give a shit what normies think?

First things first: I'm a Euro and very proud of European heritage, HH.

But honestly anyone who thinks the Japs don't have minimalistic yet aesthetic top quality workmanship hardcoded in their genes is a retard.

>>13986825
Because he is probably buttblasted that nobody gives a shit about his mechanical watch and his fedora.
I was like this when younger, got annoyed that a friend complimented a friends fossil watch but never noticed my "le superior mechanical auto winding watch". But then i lurked some more and read something similar to what you wrote.

As with any hobby, once you stop being a faggot about it, you can truly enjoy it.

>>13986853
>As with any hobby, once you stop being a faggot about it, you can truly enjoy it.

unfortunately thanks to the internet, people now find like minded others in sub communities and this have allowed autists to take all their hobbies to the logical extremes.
the faggotry and autism will only get worse

>>13986862
I liked the internet better before niggers, women and retards started using it.

>>13986862
Yep, people with no charisma tend to make themselves more interesting with their hobbies. Just like thots that love to "travel the world" on instagram.

>>13986677
I hope it has better water resistance this time

The last time I wore a wristwatch, I was still in elementary school. I mostly stopped wearing it because it was uncomfortable, but I also didn't like how the black kids would constantly ask me if I "had the time," despite there being large format wall clocks in every single classroom and hallway. When I started high school, I got my first cell phone and the watch went straight into my junk drawer.

I am now 33 years old and reevaluating my EDC. As my smartphone has increased in size, I've found that a lot of times it can be pretty hard to extract it from my pocket just to check the time. Sometimes, also, I would rather not show off a $400 smartphone in public (again, this is 100% because of black people).

What is your rationale for wearing an archaic piece of technology on your wrist that is duplicated in your smartphone's basic functions? Pic somewhat related. I sometimes get the feeling that people who wear watches in 2019 must have deviated somewhere alone the correct path of human evolution.

>>13986999

>>13987006
>What is your rationale for wearing an archaic piece of technology on your wrist that is duplicated in your smartphone's basic functions?

People thought it was unpractical to dig the time out of their pockets far before clunky smartphones became a thing. It's literally the reason wristwatches became popular.

whats a good low profile diver for around $1000

>>13987021
But back then people could choose wrist or pocket. Now we all have a clock in our pockets because our phones are with us at all times anyways.

>>13987025
Can something really be archaic if it's still being improved and better/more unique watches are being produced? It's almost like saying computers are archaic because they used to take up an entire floor of a building.

>>13987024
low profile and diver tends to be an oxymoron. That said, look for a used oris divers 65, a halios seaforth, or something.

>>13986747
Being this mad because of 50 years old technology.

GOD TIER:
ArchieLuxury, the only true YouTube celebrity and luxury goods expert

OKAY TIER:
Watchfinder & Co.
Caseback Watches
Nick Shabazz

ANNOYING CVCK TIER:
Take Time w/ Patrick Marlett
Theo & Harris
The Modest Man

SUBVERSIVE JEW TIER:
The Time Teller
Federico Talks Watches
Roman Sharf
Marc Goldberg

BOOMER TIER:
Watch Repair Channel
Watch Time LA
Nutnfancy

BARGAIN BASEMENT TIER:
Teddy Bulbasaur
24 Hours At A Time
Just One More Watch
The Casual Watch Reviewer

SHIT TIER:
The Slender Wrist
Armand The Watch Guy
Perth WAtch

NASTY CHEAP FUCKER TIER:
The Urban Gentry

>>13987084
Actually based
>Nick Shabazz
Cant stand his voice
>The Time Teller
Is indeed a nasty kike and i hated him from the very first second. Fucking reddit tier kike faggot.
>The Urban Gentry
He actually is the worst of the bunch. Slime shitter, i want to punch him so bad. He's so full of himself, it's super cringy and that dogshit toy collection in his office is just dumb.

Are fitness trackers /fa/?

>>13987084
>Teddy Bulbasaur
>Bargain

what? all of his watches are expensive

>>13987084
Archie:
>Lazy
>Bitter and angry
>Has to pay whores for sex
>Bixexual, fucks men and shemales
>Is in bad physical shape, fat as a rhinoceros, only he has two horns instead of one
>Poor, can't travel without begging for money
>Lives in a shithole house with carpet beetles
>Has marks on his skin because carpet beetles are eating at him
>Earns only about 20k australian dollars per year, equal of 14k us dollars/12k euros
>Never uses shampoo, only washes his hair with water
>Collects porn
>Collects women's purses (because he's gay?)
>Ripps off old people for money
>Very dumb about money
>Ugly as fuck
>Has mental issues
>Has alcoholic tendencies

TGV:
>Educated
>Successful
>Lives comfortly in NYC
>Hard working
>Has a good attention to detail
>highly skilled producer and editor of videos
>Makes around 140k us dollars per year
>Happy
>Married
>Polite and positive

Bought this one last year.
First automatic, how much of a shitter am I?

>>13987130
Could've been a lot worse.

>>13987114
they're not even watches

Should I get a weekender chronograph or the timex expedition?

>>13987163

>>13987163
CITIZEN AW1361-10H

>>13987163
Yes

>>13987178
>CITIZEN
This. Always better than shitterex.

>>13987137
It shows the time. How is it not a watch?

Help! Bought an Amphibia a month and a half ago and it finally arrived last week... Today I took a shower with it (it wasn't even very hot; I'm wondering if the crown wasn't perfectly tight but I'm pretty sure it was at least sort of tight?) and now the crystal is fogged.
If I heat it up by putting it close to my body for a while the fog goes away, but it comes back after a few minutes.
WHAT DO.
I am literally panicking, this is my first mechanical watch.

>>13987228
Take it to a watchmaker

I finally put together the light box. It's flimsy and feels like it will fall over by just looking at it but I guess it meets the minimum requirements of what a light box needs?

The first photo, taken with my phone. I have a real camera but I haven't used it in forever. I'll take it out later and keep playing around with this thing. If you anons have tips on how to get the most out of it pls let me know

Can someone please recommend me a beater (analog) watch?

>>13987394
timex ma boi

>>13987369
Are you gonna try your luck as a youtuber?

>>13987369
Good job, i just wish you had better watches to tace pics of, instead of this >>13987376
overmemed garbage.

>>13987398
I've heard many bad things about timex tho, that they stop working only after a few months or a year and so on.

>>13987228
>Bought an Amphibia
>now the crystal is fogged

>>13987394
Casio MQ24-7B Wears small, is light and good looking. Comfy little watch. If you'll abuse it i will stab you tho.

>>13987398
>>13987411
Timex is absolute shit tier. For the same money casios are infinitely better.

>>13987409

I bought it before I knew people hated if it means anything. It was my first fancier watch purchase when I became financially stable enough to do so. Was always an avid space fan and had wanted it since I was a kid. It's been with me for almost 10 years now. Has never failed me and keeps great time.

>>13987427
This. And timex has bad proportions. They are fuckhueg mostly, besides some smaller weekenders which i approve of.

>>13987429
No worries, i think not many people hate it. I just don't get the hype and i feel that it comes from reddit.
Enjoy your watch and dont take shitposting serious.

>>13987084
no Craig Shipp on god tier....

shit list m8

>>13987424
fucking love this watch

>>13987444
Ayy, trips confirm how great the watch is.
Me too, also got another casio. Figured out that i like helvetica as numbers font. Well and the small size makes the proportions so much nicer.

>>13986641
how quickly do you think poop would leave his body if his cameraman pretended to drop that fucking astronomia

>>13986641

This is like looking into Jake Pauls future.

>>13987427
Except casios look like shit

At least niggers aren't wearing Gondolos yet.

>>13987481
well he has 2 of them
he's also dropped and thrown about very very expensive watches and jewellery in some of his videos.
I think he's too rich to care too much

>>13986915
Tbh there are people with hobbies, and then real hobbies. Those youre speaking are the ones who are while the ones with real ones are the life of the party. But its really boring after you come to realise, people are just boring and mostly dont have hobbies.

>>13987084
TGV is fucken based, he has his wierd standards, but his editing and information game is upp there. Probably one of the few watch channels a person should watch.

>>13987376
Good pic omegabro

>>13987084
good list
for the people that don't "get" Archie here's the deal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14JKq24hRKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtWU5V2Mwt0

>>13987667
TL;DW

>>13987021
Fashion
Falling for marketing memes, which is pervasive in fashion

>>13986766
Tiger concept

>>13987228
Waterproofing doesnt protect a watch from steam

>>13987006
>What is your rationale for wearing an archaic piece of technology on your wrist that is duplicated in your smartphone's basic functions? Pic somewhat related. I sometimes get the feeling that people who wear watches in 2019 must have deviated somewhere alone the correct path of human evolution.

What's the rationale behind any non-essential consumer decision? Because you like it and it develops your personal brand, distinguishing you from other people. This is the fashion board, right? Watches are one of the few accessories acceptable for men to wear. We have far fewer options to express our interests and tastes than women.

On some level watches signal wealth and professionalism. People trust and respect professionally-attired, well-groomed people more even if they themselves don't value those things.

They are also advantageous on a practical level. You have to fish your smartphone out of your pocket as >>13987021 says, and they have to be charged constantly. They are at risk of being dropped, left behind or stolen every time you take it out.

Been wearing this a lot. Along with my turtle at work.

>>13987920
Post turdle

You may not like it, but this is what true heritage looks like.

Ya gotta get an invicta

Where to cop?

>/fa/ as fuck

>>13988007
>Where to cop?
The trashcan

>>13987920
How deep is the sea of pussy you're drowning in?

JUST ADDED A SUBMARINER TO THE COLLECTION

>>13988314

Nice, anon. I wish to get one too after I get my career up and running. Did you buy it from an AD? If so, how hard was it? We're still knee-deep in the steel sports shortage, last time I heard.

>>13988319
It is a pre-ceramic 16610 so it was bought used at a dealer. I am a fan of the pre-ceramics due to my girl wrists wearing better for me.

>>13988342

Ah, I see. Actually, I think making the Daytona have a ceramic bezel was a mistake as far as aesthetics go. I liked how the steel bezel encircled the dial, but now it's all black.

Would you wear it to work? I'm a bit worried that it might be in bad taste to wear it to work when I'll have one myself. I work in labs and lecture halls ( biology ).

>>13988351
rubbish, I wear anything anywhere. Wearing a daytona or a sub to the lecture hall is perfectly fine and it shows you have worked hard and treated yourself to something nice.

It is also money in the bank so don't be afraid to buy a Rolex. YOUR MONEY STAYS MAN or even better you MAKE money.

I also think Ceramic Daytonas look nicer than preceramics, this is the only exception to the rule because I usually like pre-ceramic Rolex range.

Pic is my collection a few years ago...

>>13988373
For example I bought in that picture a 39mm Explorer for 5800 Aussie.. if I still had that 39mm I would be selling it easily for 7k Aussie.

My current explorer is the 36mm because I thought the 39mm was too big for me.

Seikofags I need your advice. A guy in my local watch selling group wanted to sell his 7548 for 200$ negotiable. Pic related. Seems to be in good condition.
Thinking of lowballing him to 150-170$. Is there anything I need to watch out when inspecting the watch? The quartz is still working.

>>13988383
Correct. A Rolex holds their value, you won’t find it for sale 40% off BRAND NEW. Congrats on the new 16610!

>>13988387
Don't know much, but I have both a Type II and a Silverwave with the 7548 movement. Judging from the construction it's pretty much eternal.

>>13987130
not bad at all

>>13988392
Based
>>13988383
congrats on the sub

>>13988392
>caring about resale value
What are you, a poorfag?

>>13987228
>>13987233
I opened the crown and put the watch in a glass filled with rice before going to sleep, now the fog is gone.


>>13987857
Does this mean you should never shower with a watch?

The yellow kikes are Jewing you!

>>13986673
Mah comrade

>>13988689
>I've never seen a grand seiko in person: the post

If dress watches should be made of precious metals, but I don't like the tone of gold the brand offers, then can I pass off stainless steel as white gold, visually speaking? How hard of a rule is it that dress watches = precious metals?

>>13988741
Visually stainless steel is pretty much indistinguishable from white gold or platinum.
It doesn't matter.

>"IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A MOVEMENT IN THERE"

Explain the moving hands? Has Seiko come up with a movementless watch?

>>13988741
No one said dress watches should have cases made of precious metals. Steel is perfectly fine but you could also look for different brands' variations of precious metals. Rolex white gold =/= Omega white gold, for example. Look around for something you like, if nothing piques your interest, go for steel.

>>13988741
IMHO precious metal watches are extremely tacky
but again I'm not /fa/

>>13988725

>>13988815

Actually that was the exact watch I had in mind. JLC's rose gold reminds me of my mother's makeup kit, and the white gold looks just like the stainless one but with a less versatile dial colour.

>>13988820
This is my grail dress watch, and I'd go steel. Patrician choice my man, can't go wrong with JLC.

>>13988825

Thanks, anon. Do you think that 20-30, or even 50 years down the line people won't consider the MUT Moon's 39mm too big for a dress watch? I want it to become a family heirloom but I don't want it to end up like the two-tone watches from the 80s did.

>>13988819

>>13988861

The GS is shot from twice the distance compared to the Omega and the Rawlecks, talk about unbiased.

>>13988866

>>13988873

Grand Autism.

You just can't beat this. Placed out there on display for everyone to see. You make your brand all about finishing and quality and you showcase this? How did it get out of the factory? How did it pass qc? How did the people placing it on display not notice it? An eventgoer did and even after pointing it out to the Seiko people there, they just shrugged their shoulders and didn't even remove it from display.

>>13988890
>How did it get out of the factory? How did it pass qc?
It didn't do either.

Since 1735, there has never been a 40% off Blancpain watch, and there will never be!

>>13988866
The Omega is a little more close up, but the GS and Rolex are about the same distance.
The seconds hand on the OP is simply that much larger in that area.

And even then, those pics have more than enough resolution to be a completely fair comparison.

>>13987129
TGV is a delusional manchild roleplaying as a sophisticated old-timey adventurer. He knows fuck-all about watches and parrots tired memes.

Archie might come from a low-status background, but he knows his shit when it comes to luxury goods and doesn't resort to regurgitating other people's talking points.

>>13988837
Trends keep saying "bigger" so I wouldn't be too worried, There's nothing "extreme" about it too so I'm sure this watch is going to be appreciated for a long time. Good luck on your purchase.

>>13988895
Blancpain has been part of the Swatch group since the early 90s.

Söyko autist loves to post that Rolex price graph through the years but look at Seiko having their Grand Shitters sold for 40% off the tag! Yikes. Not a good look! https://timelessluxwatches.com/product-category/grand-seiko/classic-grand-seikos/

>>13988911
Protip: Seiko has nothing to do with this particular company.

>>13988914
Are you implying that’s good? It’s even worse! Think a little.

>>13988911
This just cements their mall brand shitter image.

MUH CHERRY PICKED IMAGES

Do you people not get tired of having the same exact pre-rehearsed thread every single day over and over again? The same arguments, the same shitposts, the same images. Do you think your favorite preferred watch brand is going to send you a free watch as a reward for tirelessly defending their sacred honor on the internet?

>>13988937
I’m fairly convinced it’s just one guy arguing with himself.

In these last few threads, Grand Seiko has been utterly BTFO. Destroyed. Apparently their sales have decreased by 15% just down to this one shitposter. How will they ever recover? how will they defend themselves after being exposed so brutally? I don't think it's possible. GS is now a sinking ship, sell your GS now before they tank completely.

>>13988933
Post the full image lmao.

Really highlights how much better Grand Seikos are finished than Rolex for instance.

F I T A N D F I N I S H

>>13988940
This reads exactly like fud on /biz/

Now I understand what's been going on, this Rolexfag bought a Rollie with his meager crypto earnings, and is using his warped ultra-competitive and hyper-manipulative view of internet posting to desperately fight a perceived enemy.

>>13988962
Who says I’m all for Rolex?

>>13988960
>>13988964

>>13988964

Damn.

This end link gap: >>13988964
is god-tier compared to this: >>13988968

>>13988783
>Has Seiko come up with a movementless watch?

The Swiss btfo by the Nips yet again. Magic movement crisis when?

>>13988971
>>13988964
>>13988960

>>13988967
You're very fixated on Rolex, and half your arguments only make sense with Rolex.

Omegas for instance are constantly sold at discount.

>>13988933
At least you didn't use that photoshopped version from last time.

>>13988980
See
>>13988873
>>13988861

It only seems that I am the one fixated on Rolex when I’m rebutting Söyko’s autism.

>>13988990
Those posts came well after you spammed the GS discount thing.

“Nice Seiko!”
“It’s a Grand Seiko”
“What’s the difference?”
“U-uh, the finishing”

>>13988960

>>13988994
This didn’t start here bud. Months long shitposting from Söyko autist that is now only being replied to

>>13988899
>TGV is a delusional manchild roleplaying as a sophisticated old-timey adventurer.

This. Also you got a trips-dubs fullhouse.

>>13988997
You must lead such a fulfilling life.

>>13988996
Lying about muh mockups! Seiko derangement syndrome.

>>13989007
It's still a prototype.
This one watch did the rounds in online pics like half a year before the first production models were sold.

>>13988962
Exactly this.

>>13989014
Doesn’t excuse shit.

>>13989017
It does when it was only meant for certain purposes, and none of the production models have those kinds of defects.

>>13989035
“None” look at the date wheels they have a problem with their single digits >>13989007
>>13988960
>>13988927

>>13989037

>>13989037
>date wheels
See >>13988996

And I don't see anything wrong in your pic.
Unless you're talking about the very sides of those indices, which means absolutely nothing without an actual view of them rather than the ghost of their peripheral halo.

>>13989039

>>13989039
Fucking HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>13989041

>>13989043
The guy's AD said this would be fixed under warranty.

>>13989049
Someone probably screwed with the quick set date.

>>13989047
Faggot.

>>13989051
Look at all the 6s you’re being purposely blind to the fact that it’s all right justified.

>>13989052
This thing is impressive no matter how close you get.
That end cap is polished to perfection.
Thanks for the macros, based GS anon!

Good day to be a European.

>>13989054
>right justified.
See >>13988996

>>13989061
I'm European, and your pic means absolute dick.
That site doesn't even acknowledge the Astron.

Arafat becoming the PLO leader? That happened.
The first production quartz watch that revolutionized the watch industry? LALALALALALALALALAICANTHEARYOULALALALALA

>>13989063
Looks fine and proper on the Rolex. It’s when it’s super fucking obvious on the Seikos but you won’t admit it.

>>13989068
It’s called PERIMETER OF FINE WATCHMAKING YOU DINGUS

>>13989074
It's called that by a site that doesn't even acknowledge the Seiko Astron, lmao.

>>13989071
>uncentered dates look fine when Rolex does it

>>13989077
https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/amphtml/encyclopaedia/watches/quartz-watches/

Idiot

>>13989052
>>13989039
Grand Seikos really are out of this world when seen up close.

>>13989084
>tucked away in the encyclopaedia
>not featured or even mentioned in the "history of watchmaking" timeline

The Swiss will forever be butthurt about the Astron.

>>13989086
Don’t need to be up close when you look like a shitter

>>13989091
quartz=/=watchmaking
Do you consider an iPhone a marvellous timepiece with incredible complications?

>>13989097
>Don’t need to be up close
That's the only way to cope with inferior finishing, yes.

>>13989100
>quartz=/=watchmaking
That's the stuff, lmao.

>>13989100
Actually, yes
Technology is amazing, you should study it someday.

>>13989100

Do iPhones have quartz crystals, or do they rely on a time signal?

>>13989107
Well then your opinions are invalid.

>>13989100
>quartz=/=watchmaking
The timeline does mention the first LED display quartz though, fucking lel.

>>13989107
>considers an iPhone a timepiece
Beautiful, you just outed yourself as a retard, now I won't even have to reply to any seiko retard anymore.
>your brain on Seiko Derangement Syndrome

LMAO

>>13989117
That's one of the 10 people from Seiko's "Micro Artist Studio".
They only put out 30 watches per year (including the 9R01 movements for Grand Seiko).

Small wonder that their finishing is finer than that of Lange, who put out thousands of watches every year.

>>13988911
>>13988392

nice, now's a great time to pick one up
i know he's trying to troll but this is actually a great deal

>>13989131
Nice baiting. And ALS only has 6 engravers. What are you trying to imply?

>>13989164
Oh the engraving is absolutely spot on at ALS.
The technical level of their finishing in general is very high indeed.

However, not quite as high as that of the very upper end of watchmaking, like Voutilainen, Dufour, Micro Artist Studio, ...

>>13989170
Shoehorning micro artist studio lmao. Fuck off you Söyko autist

>>13989108
Phones have quartz crystals for timekeeping, as well as for frequency standards for their radio communication.

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>>13989179
They're not shoehorned in, pleb.
They're the people Philippe Dufour himself tutored.
Their finishing is right up there with the absolute very best of them.

>>13989184
>The Umfangschliff angle is different
OH NO SO WORSE THAN SEIKO! ALS SUCKS! SHITTERS!

What's the worst watch I can get in the $50-200 price range?

>>13989184
Gooks had to be taught by a Swiss. Also uses Swiss made machines claiming it’s a technique. Lmao.

>>13989186
That's some fine anglage, but it's inferior to the anglage produced by Seiko's Micro Artist Studio.
As you can see, they use a handheld machine so they produce a relatively slim and flat polished bevel.

Micro Artist Studio uses special bits of wood with diamond paste of varying coarseness to achieve a full, rounded bevel.

>>13989190
Ray II

>>13989191
>Gooks had to be taught by a Swiss
No shame in exchanging expertise.

Dufour himself has called out the Swiss on their laxness in terms of high-end finishing, and praised the Germans and Japanese for raising the stakes.
He's very eager to pass along his knowledge and expertise, and the Japanese are very eager to learn.

>>13989195
>Inferior
Yeah I’m going to stop replying to you fucking weaboo.

>>13989204
Sleep on it for a while.

>>13989084
>google.ch
Are you Swiss anon?

>>13989204
>Yeah I’m going to stop replying to you fucking weaboo.
Translation: "I'm going to disappear for a few hours while I rampage through the internet feverishly looking for cherrypicked material in a vain attempt to discredit a very obviously true claim that goes against my entire worldview, and when I can't find anything suitable again I'll just post half a thread worth of obnoxious shitposts to assuage my butthurt".

The only good things I've read from that moron's keyboard are "I'm going to stop replying", too bad it won't ever come true.

>>13989256
He always comes back more butthurt than ever.

>>13989191
>Gooks had to be taught by a Swiss.
And the Swiss had to be taught by the French and English.

>>13989256
>>13989257
Same fag

>>13989247
You’re actually completely deranged if you think micro penis studio is better than Lange lmao. Calling Lange inferior, my goodness.

>>13989276
At the technical level, Micro Artist Studio is definitely superior at finishing compared to Lange.

Compare the flatness of Lange's anglage to the rounded fullness of MAS's anglage.

I absolutely love Lange for giving the Swiss a run for their money in terms of finishing, Lange's movement architecture is to absolutely die for. Their chronographs for instance look like tiny futuristic cities.
But fair is fair.

Good morning wt

The new junghans Meister is a watch with both a haq movement and radio sync. It has a map on the dial with the current radio stations (I suppose it might become out of date if wwvb shuts down). It has an independent time zone adjustment that includes the half hour and quarter hour time zones. The hand motion is fairly unique - the second hand is advanced twice per second, and the minute hand advances from one minute to the next only at the top of each minute. Obviously, it has a fly-by-wire crown. The quartz movement is supposed to be good to 8spy without radio sync, though the mechanism by which it does that is a little obscure. Junghans has confirmed the watch is not thermocompensated. Instead, it has an unusual 32670hz crystal and an 8-minute inhibition window. I'll be testing it and my other haq pieces in my incubator soon for a couple months so we'll see how it does with its radio sync turned off.

>>13989294
Lange’s choice of their angle of the bevel does not make them inferior you fucking retard. >Their chronographs for instance look like tiny futuristic cities.
Now you’re just writing down Watchfinder views.

>>13989298
Keep us posted
I know you can just get that one Seiko dolce or any of the nice old quartz Seikos but the old quartz Seikos tend to look kind of dated in the bad way

>>13989314
Making a thin, flat polished bevel is definitely a cost-saving measure.
It's great and all, and definitely better than 99% of Patek's beveling.
But objectively inferior to a wide, full, rounded bevel like those created by Micro Artist Studio.

And I'm talking about large mainplate bevels.

>>13989328
>Definitely a cost-saving measure.
Source?
You can keep sucking nippon micro dick all you want but ALS is not fucking inferior to them just because of your perception of inferiority. „They use electric hand tools”. They use a mix of tools you idiot.

>>13989342
>Source?
They're much cheaper to produce.

>>13989298
I want one of those now
it seems like such a nice watch

>>13989326
Theres always the longines vhp if you want a sportier, more modern-design 5spy haq, though I don't care for it personally. The sacm171 is fantastic for the price but it is hamstrung slightly by its lack of an independent hour hand. I still think the citizen mega is my favorite haq design wise, but this is pretty good if it actually meets specs (no idea how it will actually do that without tc).

>>13989357
I've been very pleased with it, except for how much of a pain the pin-and-tube bracelet was to size. The domed crystal and anthracite-colored dial are excellent and it sits very comfortably and low on the wrist.

Perfect, sharp 45 degree bevels is what defines anlage.

>Behold inferior ALS hand endgraving, Glashütte ribbing, perfect anlage, perlage, straight graining, circular graining, black polish.

All of that „inferior” to micro penis studio.

>>13989403
Here’s the „superior to A. Lange & Söhne” finishing.

>>13989403
>Perfect, sharp 45 degree bevels is what defines anlage.
t. not Philippe Dufour

>>13989186
This isn’t their anlage application. My mistake. This is contour grinding for the matte finish for all edges.

>>13989421
If that’s how ALS defines their anlage, then that is their anlage. And their hand finishing technique. The gooks copied Dufour’s technique so it looks close to Dufour. It doesn’t fucking mean Lange is inferior to copycats.

>>13989427
Their well defined technique is „inferior” and „cheap”. This söyko autist gives me aneurism.

http://www.watchpaper.com/2009/04/16/a-lange-sohne-perfection-in-every-detail-the-new-1815/

>>13989406
Let’s not forget the fucking gooks copying the inferior ALS three-quarter plate.

Every day I go back and fourth on the 1 watch I wanna wear everyday. Should I get a seamaster, grape oyster perpetual, speedmaster racing chrono in gray with yellow highlights, Breitling aerospace, seiko marinemaster?

I go back and fourth between wanting a nice Swiss mechanical, and an autistically accurate quartz. I keep seeinf reviews about people's omega being like a minute fast and I know I'm not the kind of person who would enjoy dealing with that.

>>13989440
Also I live in a humid tropical enviroment and swim a lot

BEHOLD THE INFERIORITY ADOLF LANGE & SÖHNE. THE YELLOW GOOKS ARE THE BEST!¡!¡!!

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>>13989452
Thanks for your input

>>13989440
This Seamaster 300 appeals to me, I like the vintage lume look. I’d go rhodium if I were going with the OP, the blue highlights are much more nicer than the feminine grape colour. Speedmasters are eh, Breitlings are ugly and Seiko? Really? Lol.

>>13989427
>If that’s how ALS defines their anlage, then that is their anlage.
Sure.
But it's cheaper to make, and not as aesthetically pleasing as a full, rounded anglage.

>>13989468
Will you ejaculate your cum on its crystal?

>>13989468
I'm going to a nice mall next weekend when the Xmas rush is over to look at them all. I'm just going off internet pix so far except the speedmaster which I saw at Sam's club lol. Sorry if my Pic flips

>>13989425
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>>13989448
You post too much.

>>13989488
I'd go for the Seamaster. You said you swim a lot and live in a tropical area (jelly btw), it's perfect for you.

>>13989479
You’re only inferring it being cheaper because of my mistake showing how they do their circumferential finishing. Here’s how they actually do their anlage.

>>13989508
If you have to take off your sweater, then the weather is too hot.
So no, you should not be jealous, because he is in hell.

>>13989515
Also lol at cheaper when gook watches look like 1$ Chinese watches. It doesn’t matter how the dial was made if it looks so utterly underwhelming and cheap.

>>13989517
I'd love to live in a place like Miami so I'm jelly.

>>13989515
Their mainplates are finished with a thin, flat bevel.
You said this yourself.
This is a cheaper, faster, easier way to do anglage than full-on rounded beveling à la Philippe Dufour or Kari Voutilainen.

If Lange actually applied the Dufour kind of anglage, even their base models would cost 50k instead of ~20k.
Stop sperging.

>>13989523
Wtf is your problem, are you aware that you have to take off your sweater there?

>>13989520
>DW watch
OH NO OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>better than Lange
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13989523
The minorities ruin miami but there are some nice areas of Florida

>>13989531
I'm gonna throw away all my sweaters and never wear one again.
>>13989533
Yeah, I said Miami because I was thinking of Dexter lmao. I've been to Naples and if I could I'd live there, very nice place.

>>13989538
You will not!

>>13989551
Fuck your sweaters

>>13989538
I know what you mean, Miami aesthetics are great but if you're not wealthy what's the point.

>>13989554
I know, that's why I said "if I could", but it's fun to imagine, just like looking at watch pics ITT that I'll never be able to afford

>>13989552
I promise you, you want to TAKE THAT BACK!!!! OR ELSE...!!!!1

No point in arguing with the delusional, calling ALS techniques cheap. Sorry no one cares about your micro penis studio and their Shenzhen DW special homages.

>>13989563
If you think Lange has the same level of beveling as Philippe Dufour or Kari Voutilainen, then I don't know what to tell you.

If you guys wanna argue about stuff you can't see with the naked eye you should argue about your microdicks

>first Grand Seiko and Rolex aren't good enough
>Now Credor and Lange aren't good enough anymore
What the fuck

>>13989583
„Lange is inferior to Gooks” clown world.

>>13989583
"Enough" depends entirely on what you want and/or can afford.
For me personally, I'd cherish a Lange until my dying day.
But I'm not so deluded to think it's finished to the same standards as a Dufour or Voutilainen for instance.

>>13989563
>>13989568

You're both pathetic. You didn't make these, you don't have the skills. You can take no pride or offence in their construction. Both manufacturers would view your comments with contempt and pity. If you use someone else's standards of workmanship to define you as a person you are beyond saving.

>>13989562
Or else what pussy?

>>13986683
Oooh that's the power reserve. I've looked at this image like 10 times and always thought it was the second hand that popped off.
Anyways it's a godawful shitter and you shouldn't sell it at all

>>13989594
YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!!! YOU WILL LIVE TO REGRET THIS, I PROMISE YOU!!

>>13989583
And the Patek Phishiiieeeet are now exclusively nigger watches too.

What to buy?

>>13989256
Called it

>>13989606

Seiko 5.

What you boys think of my Seiko trilogy?

>>13989592
>you shouldn't discuss the merits of something you didn't make
k

>>13989644
Not bad

>>13988900
It’s not extreme at all- I tried it on the other day and it was too small for my wrist.

>>13989736
Got any pics?

>>13989661
Of course you can, but when personal pride starts making its way through its unbecoming.

Is the Halios Seaforth III the perfect micro brand watch?

>>13989770
I’m pretty much echoing Dufour’s sentiments on the matter.
Reputation and heritage are built upon craftsmanship, and much of the Swiss watch industry is resting on its laurels in this respect, while the Germans and Japanese are forging ahead.
That said, I personally also buy into the Swiss/European cachet aspect, and the very top of the spectrum is still largely Swiss.
At the 4-10k price range however, Grand Seiko is largely without peer in the craftsmanship craftsmanship department, and Seiko’s top watchmaking division is very much up there with the absolute finest in key respects.

>>13989767
Nah, took one or two in the boutique but it felt awkward when I did so they were massively rushed. I went with the intention of getting a Master Moon, or at least confirming I’d buy one at a discount later on if the opportunity presented itself, but I have thic wrists so it just didn’t work. Tried on this Chronograph and it was real nice though.

>>13989814
post wrists, do you lift?

>>13989807
I’m the guy you keep arguing with but let’s agree on one point, they have good finishing for the price but they lack prestige. At the end of the day there’s Seiko on the dial.

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>>13989515
i love this level of autism, i'm actually taking more consideration for the grand seiko , please continue the discussion when the next thread opens.

New thread

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>>13989857
Too early.

>>13989859
migrate when ready

>>13989583
Lange (founded 1990) has no history or heritage to speak of. Even fucking Seiko has been around for over a century.

Proper new thread:

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>>13989875
Sweet summer child.

>>13989877
Too late faggot, stop creating multiple threads

>>13989875
It was founded in 1845 you dumb fucking nigger, the same year Patek became Patek Philippe.
Seiko Derangement Syndrome in an advanced state.

>>13989879
i wonder why they needed the minutes to be mirrored.

>>13989916
Pilots and mirrors.

An extract from the “Aviator Watches” section of Reinhard Meis’s excellent book on the watchmakers of Dresden indicates that the backwards seconds on the inner part of the dial meant that they could be read in a mirror when mounted in navigation equipment. When flying by waypoints, as pilots had to do in the second world war, being able to read the seconds accurately was crucial.

Being able to measure the seconds accurately was more important, of course, and the calibre 48.1 movement used in this watch has a history all of its own, having been developed specifically to Wehrmacht specifications that required accuracy to within less than one second per day! It also has a stop-seconds function that was at the time patented by Junghans, which meant that A. Lange & Söhne had to pay its German competitor a licence fee so that it could produce these urgently needed watches.

>>13989825
Good finishing is where the prestige comes from.

But you're right that a European name and house has a certain cachet, it's where watchmaking as we know it arose, at a time when Europe was at the pinnacle of world domination, thanks in no small part to timekeeping in the form of marine chronometers.
As a Euro, this is part of my heritage.

That said, the Japanese have themselves a very long and distinguished history of eminent craftsmanship, see pic for instance.
Plus, the Japanese have so far resisted the call to mass immigration as one of the very few affluent countries in the world, so I'd wear a high-end Seiko with pride as a badge of aspiration.

>>13989825

So what?
>prestige
Can we move this operation back to /g/ already?

>>13986614
new thread

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>>13989998
Indeed japan will probably be around long after the west collapses under the weight of 3rd world garbage and 32 different genders.

>>13989857
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>>13990020
I love how I get banned for every little thing yet this shitshow has been going on on /wt/ for nearly years now.

will you fucking curly cockhairs stop making 3 FUCKING THREADS AT THE END OF EVERY WATCH THREAD

>>13990088
Blame mods, they couldn't be assed to get this cunt banned for more than a year now.