/fa/ - Fashion

>>13981847
Do you guys not have phones?

>>13981852
C A n T y o U j U S t L O o K A T Y O u R p h O N e?????

>>13981852
Don’t you have sticks and shadows?

>>13981847
Cucked and bluepilled

Ranting. I dinged my mint basedko SKX watch fuck.

>>13982048
>based
what the fuck, it changed from onions

>>13982050
newfag spotted

Reminder that the Grand Seiko movement in pic related is the work of a micro studio staffed by 10 men who only put out 30 watches in a year.
That's more "micro" than the likes of Kari Voutilainen.

This kind of movement finishing is the absolute pinnacle of haute horology, up there with Philippe Dufour (who helped train these 10 men).

Even the undersides of the screws on this movement are finished.

>>13982111
By comparison, Lange movement finishing is much more ornate, but clearly inferior at a technical level.

Compare the flatness of the mainplate anglage to the plump, rounded fullness of this GS: >>13982111

Don't get me wrong, Lange's finishing is still magnificent, especially considering the often intricate structure and sheer magnitude of parts to be finished.
But when you look at the technical merit of the finissage, the Grand Seiko is clearly a step up.

>>13982111
>>13982119
And here's a sample by the hand of the master himself: Philippe Dufour.

As you can see, this anglage has the same rounded fullness as the Grand Seiko here: >>13982111

This is the ideal watch. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>13982147
There is a thread here
>>13981882

>>13982119

Lange has a tendency to only finish parts that are visible through the exhibition caseback, too. Another sign that they are just a bunch of posers.

>>13982213
Why would they spend time polishing that won't ever be seen except by the guy who changes the battery?

>>13981847
any tips or guides on watch photography? i want to take some but dont know how well

>>13982213
To be fair, they're still head and shoulders above Patek.

>>13982230
One of the guys from the 10-man studio who made this >>13982111
was asked how much time he spends finishing a single screw.
He said "45 minutes, 30 minutes on the top and 15 minutes on the underside of the screw head".
He was then asked "why the underside? Nobody will see it", he replied "I see it".

And you can change the battery yourself. If you just flip the battery over, you can get another year of juice out of it since it tends to accumulate on one side if you don't flip it over.

Post underrated / obscure pieces

>>13982230

Attitudes like yours is the reason horology is a dead art.

>>13982245
>horology
The study of whores?

>>13982242

All the finishing in the world won't give GS designs any character. It's undeniably japanese : So afraid to offend anyone that it's just bland.

>>13982250
>seiko
>afraid to offend
You're talking about the same company that almost killed the entire Swiss watch industry with their innovations, and proudly made pic related.

>>13981847
What is the consensus on Rodina or other "homage" watches?

Watch repairer here, they brought me one of these for repair, but I chickened out. Most likely all it needed was a new mainspring. I'm sorry /wt/.

>>13982256

Don't move the goalposts. Grand Seikos all look the same, basically. The most "unique" of them, the Snowflake, is quite true to its name : silent, cold, and overall, lacking any warmth that would endear its owner.

>>13981847
I quite fancy a stowa flieger but considering a luftwaffe plane accidentally bombed the next town over from me and killed 27 people, i'm not so sure it would go down well.

>>13982263
>Grand Seikos all look the same

>>13982263
>Grand Seikos all look the same, basically.
It's called having a design language.
Look into the GS history, their design language has been a key element for Grand Seiko since the very early years.

Once you know what to look for, the individual case design categories are identifiable from a mile away, like the 44GS cases.

>>13982250
i thnk that's a trend in the watch industry

>>13982265
Both sides have killed indiscriminately.
My country was occupied by the Germans in WWII, and I'm currently looking at Fliegers and planning on wearing it with pride.

>>13982250
>>13982263
>GS designs don't have any charac...

>>13982280

American planes bombed Dresden when my grandfather was there. He saw the charred corpses strewn along the streets, the smell of burning flesh seared into his memory forever. He never held a grudge against them, though, it's war. They just did what they were told.

>>13982288
My grandma used to tell stories about the years of constant threat of aerial bombings.
Having been fed the anti-Nazi propaganda in school, I always assumed she was talking about ze ebul Germuns.
Then I realized the Germans overran Belgium in a day, and those years of bombings she was talking about were done by the Allies.

>>13982297

He told me another story about a sort of rebellion that happened in Belgrade against the nazi occupying force. Lots of people hung from lampposts and all that. After it died down there were a lot of cases of the germans just rounding up random men from houses and executing them right in front of their families.

>>13982280
yeah, I'm not going to worry about it.

>>13982261
I couldn't handle being a watchmaker.

It's as though you're there one day, finishing up servicing a Toyota Yaris, and someone drives in with an Aston Martin DB4 and asks you to service it for them.

>>13982250
>has only gotten worse over the last few decades
>isn't the pinnical of being afraid to offend, and boring (oops, I meant """timeless""")

>>13982280
My family's Northern Irish and we lived in England for years and I'd consider myself English. Getting hung up on stuff done in the past is just silly.

just arrived yesterday

>>13982263
>Grand Seikos all look the same
Blind and retarded.

>>13982329
More like you have to wax polish the wood interior in a Jag while still covered in the dirty engine oil of a North Korean UAZ.

>>13982345
Yeah.
The very people who fought each other had a more nuanced view of one another than today's rabid PC brigades.

>>13982268
BTFO
You could also have added in the GMT MAster in there

Grand Seiko won’t ever be considered luxury and people would always turn their noses at it. Excuse my language but it’s like a cheap whore who used to charge 5€ for a blowjob, fuck, and cream pie and is now charging 3000€ just for a blowjob because she got a facelift, boob job, and is wearing a nice dress and heels.

>>13982386
And the Deep Sea etc.
It's just a pic off google.

>>13982268
Clear, identifiable design language is bad?

>>13982387
>Grand Seiko won’t ever be considered luxury
I don't care if it's "luxury", I want horology.

Also, the Swiss used to be chink-tier cheap labor supplying cheap watch parts to lower-end English and French watchmakers.

>>13982398
You meant to quote >>13982263

Seiko finishing on a £250 watch.

>>13982352
Bringing new meaning to the term "Peacocking"

>>13982213
Cite your source for this baseless claim.
>>13982230
Bait.

>>13982408
Just look at that ugly as fuck index at 10.
>vomit.jpg

>>13982387
Modern Rolex is like a cheap hooker who used to charge $5 for a blowjob, who is now charging $3000 because she got fat.

A 50 year old quartz.

>>13982287
>the way the caseback peeps out from under the midcase on both sides
L-lewd!

>>13982408
They’re basically all like that even with the naked eye.
The SCED watches aren’t good value in my opinion.
I only paid £150 each for these which is a good deal.

>>13982419
lel

If we’re going to compare Seiko and any European brand let’s compare the cheapest watch you can get from both brands. Not this high end line bullshit. A brand will always be judged by it’s cheapest offering and it’s quality.

>>13982244
I love golden ellipses, not really obscure though.
>>13982111
>haute horology
>horology
kys
>>13982387
perfect analogy

>>13982432
>we should compare the Seiko 5 with the Lange Saxonia thin!
Nice try.

>>13982437
>>haute horology
>>horology
>kys
Ok, sorry, "high horlogerie".
Better?

>>13982437
>perfect analogy
So is this: >>13982419

>>13982438
Yes. Because people in this thread are judging European houses as a whole yet they keep ignoring Seiko aspect of Grand Seiko. If I can get a watch with Seiko on the dial for 50$, why would I be buying a 7k$ Seiko?

>>13982437
>Not really obscure though
I've never seen one posted or talked about anywhere, I stumbled across it by accident looking through an auction site and one of the lots was a vintage ellipse with matching cufflinks. As far as I know not many are aware of it

>>13982447
>let's only judge the branding and not the actual merits of something

>>13982440
How about "haute horlogerie"?
Lrn2spel
>>13982442
That one really has no meaning, care to explain it to me?
>>13982450
You're right, it's a beautiful piece. Have you seen the 50th anniversary one? Pic related

>>13982417
See >>13982425

>>13982447
You are unspeakably retarded

>Rolex Brand Bad!
>Grand Seiko Good!
>(Please Seiko Ugliness)

This too big or no?
This is the 39mm Explorer on a 6.5 inch wrist.

>Rolex Brand Bad!
>Grand Seiko Good!
>(Please Ignore Seiko’s Ugliness)

Best Hamilton model reporting in- is it sad that I prefer it to my IWC

>>13982471
>Rolex is luxury brand so it's good!
>Seiko is not luxury brand so it's not good!

How about you look at the actual watches, fren.

>>13982469
my friend it's time to go over to >>>/fit/

>>13982447

>Why would you spend thousands on a Rolex when you can just print their logo from Google images?

t. (you)

>>13982487
You’re completely missing the point.

>>13982479
Looking at a brands whole offering, yes.

>>13982469
at 6.5 inches you really shouldnt go over 36mm

>>13982453
>Care to explain it to me?

>>13982387 made the assertion that Grand Seiko are just regular Seiko watches with a superficial facelift and grossly inflated prices. Ignoring the fact this is objectively wrong, I was just pointing out that a Rolex used to cost a week's wages and now cost ~$8K, having changed just about nothing over the years except giving them chunkier cases and making them look objectively worse than the vintage models (see vintage GMT master, vintage explorer etc).

>>13982387
And to add to this, the whore in this case, Seiko, hasn’t stopped selling a blowjob, sex and cream pie endings for 5€, they’re just offering to put on a nice dress and heels and asking you 3000€ for it.

>>13982498
What are you even talking about?

>>13982505
>having changed just about nothing
Seiko derangement syndrome reaps another soul. Tragic

>>13982508
Judging brands as whole but conveniently, Grand Seiko is judged as Grand Seiko only. What is Rolex, JLC, Patek, etc’s base line? What is Seiko’s?

what do you guys think? $2200 for a Oyster Precision?

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/oyster-precision-6694--id9168537.htm

Haute horlogerie includes everything including exclusivity, image — brand perception. What is Seiko’s brand perception?

>>13982514
>What is Rolex, JLC, Patek, etc’s base line?
Why are you asking?

>>13982519
>Haute horlogerie includes everything including exclusivity, image — brand perception.
Lmao, no it doesn't.

>>13982521
>no it doesn’t.
Keep saying that to yourself bud. I’m sure you’ll convince someone.

>>13982522
Haute horlogerie is about watchmaking techniques and standards.

>>13982511
Aside from making their own hairspring and using a different oil, please explain to me how a new submariner is tangibly better than a vintage example. Specifically justify the roughly 8x price inflation please. They've been using the same movement since the 80's.

>>13982519
Reliable, value for money and iconic designs which nearly killed the entire Swiss watch industry.

>>13982469
It's fine

>>13982527
Consumers love it! They're in such high demand that price is inflated even more than Rolex MSRP

>>13982527
Nothing needs to be justified with a Rolex. Rolex is a brand that doesn’t need an introduction. You are buying an image with Rolex, with that comes a Swiss, high-quality watch with a nicely finished movement.
>>13982527
You just reworded mass-produced for the masses.

>>13982351
love the "engineering" look

>>13982536
>Nothing needs to be justified with a Rolex
Imagine being this much of a brand whore.

Imagine how much Patek’s or any high end European brand’s image would suffer when they start offering 50€ watches. Sure it’ll be quality but they’ll be devaluing their entire brand and image.

>>13982540
I’m not a brand whore for Rolex. I consider them basic bitch but it’s a Swiss basic bitch, that’s a whole a lot more than any non-European watch.

>>13982519
>brand perception

Yanks and their fucking memes I swear.. European brands are like magic to you all, whether it's Heineken, Nutella or Rolex..

>>13982542
Yeah, instead they shit out extremely overpriced watches with increasingly shitty workmanship because retards like you will simply keep buying into the branding lmao.

>>13982536
>Brand image is literally the only thing that matters. I am incapable of judging anything by it's merits and my purchases are based solely on what other people will think of me.
Cringe and bluepilled

Seiko nearly killed the Swiss watch industry. This means that that they didn't just tap into a new market, they also stole the old one. Professionals, buisnessman and CEOs were buying quartz Seikos. Mass produced does not mean bad and Seiko have demonstrably proved this.

>>13982536

>Rolex
>Not mass produced

Pick one.

>>13982545
I’m not a fucking yank, you weeaboo.

>>13982544
>I consider them basic bitch but it’s a Swiss basic bitch, that’s a whole a lot more than any non-European watch.
Even when non-European watches are much higher quality?

I don't understand why you need to stir up this same argument every single thread.

>>13982548
>Seiko nearly killed the Swiss watch industry

He knows this. It's the main reason he's seething, actually.. Don't mention the Q word.

>>13982536
Rolex shits out 1 million watches per year.
Grand Seiko about 20k.

Pray tell, which is mass produced?

>>13982551

Sure thing Juan.

>>13982548
I don’t want a watch from a brand that tried to kill the art of horlogerie. Seiko is tapping into the luxury market where exclusivity is king.

>>13982556
And Seiko shits out how much per year?

>>13982555
What if he's actually a Seiko fanboy who's posting shitty arguments under the guise of a Rolex brand whore in the hopes that others will dismantle them and improve Seiko's brand image to any observers?

This brand is asking me 7k$ for a brand when I can get a European watch with pedigree for the same amount or a little more...

>>13982561
Exactly, never gonna buy a Seiko for this sole reason.

Let’s compare a Seiko shitter vs a Rolex shitter.

>>13982561
>exclusivity is king
Grand Seiko is far more exclusive than a Rolex

>>13982571
You keep ignoring the “Seiko” factor.

>>13982561
>And Seiko shits out how much per year?
Grand Seiko was always a separate entity from Seiko. Always.

And it was always deliberately kept small to keep the quality high.
Meanwhile Rolex keeps finding new ways to automate their production, even ceasing the application of any kind of case bevel like you still find on vintage Rolexes. See pic.

>>13982573
No, you're talking about two different things as if they're one

>>13982565
SAAB made family cars and fighter jets

>>13982568
Let's compare a Voutilainen shitter vs a Rolex shitter.

>>13982576
Grand Seiko will always be attached to Seiko lmao. That’s something you can never unattach yourself from. It says SEIKO on the goddamned dial.

I hate this fucking weab Seiko bait so much why do I keep falling for it.

>>13982584
This shit made me hate Japs too when I used to be okay-isch with the yellows.

>>13982583
Grand Seiko was always a separate entity, only sharing its very upper management with Seiko.

By your logic, Ferrari should be judged on the merits of the Fiat Panda, since Exor holds the share majority in both.

>>13982583
wahh wahh i only care how popular my the name of my watch brand is with normies and other "watch collectors"

I just want manufactures to buttfuck me for the privilege of wearing their name on my wrist

p-please notice my rolex and validate my existence

who cares spending more than $500 on a watch is purely for vanity. so stop trying to pretend its for anything like "horological excellence" or "brand pedigree" and just admit that you're no better than normies spending $1000 on the latest iphone

so lets just all come to terms with this and get along

All of this retarded arguing makes me appreciate GS even more.

You flat-out cannot deny that GS quality:price is far and away better than so many brands coasting on the "Swiss Made" stamp

GAPPED SHIT (GS)

LOL

>>13982600
Funny how no one had even brought this up until recently. It's almost like you're desperate

>the arguing has woken up the microscope sperg again

>>13982595
Here’s a (you) from the latest iPhone

what does /fa/ think of Michael Blakey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Zg52GUOMw

>>13982600
https://www.grayandsons.com/w516569-patek-philippe-annual-calendar-51461j.html?utm_source=auctions&utm_medium=www.barnebys.com&utm_content=gray-and-sons&utm_campaign=barnebys

>>13982611
/g/ here, dude has absolutely horrible taste

>>13982611
>when he pulls out the hulk and goes "THIS IS HOT AND SELLING OVER RETAIL PRICE"
pukeathon

GRAND SEIKO ISNT SEIKO AT ALL!!!

Keep seething, weeaboos. https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/the-foundation/cultural-council/white-paper-on-fine-watchmaking/

>>13982627
he's right though

>>13982631
where's Jacob & Co. would be extremely based if they were considered just jewellers.

>>13982611
>tfw poor
he's literally just picking random 10k+ watches

>>13982644
I unironically want one

>>13982644
I know he's right and I know it's selling like nuts I just think it's godawful personally

>>13982631
NO JAPANESE IN SIGHT. BTFO.

>>13982644
Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t. I used to like the bluesy but I grew out of it. For the Sub-C if I ever go for them, I’m going with the no-date. Although, I want to inherit my dad’s red mk ii 1680.

>>13982654
>>13982658
what about the grape

>>13982469
It's too big, sorry

>>13982469
i think it looks fine though

>>13982663
I like the grape but if I were to go for the OP, I’m going Rhodium. Just personal preference and it would match more of my clothing. The new OPs though are nice with complete indices.

>>13982631
>Vuotilainen
FINLAND MENTIONED
>Sarpaneva
What's this?

Hideous things, reminds mode of those kisai jap shitters or something, the guy can't even make a round case.

>>13982663
I guess that's a little less garish and it's a lot slimmer, I wouldn't want either but I'd go with he purple over big green if I got offered one to never sell and only wear

Part 1 of 3

>>13982681
Part 2 of 3

>>13982683
Part 3 of 3

>>13982478
I like your blue IWC though, also anyone subconsciously read IWC as A-WA-SI?

>>13982683
>>13982686
Richfags entering into the watch collecting scene are the biggest fucking cancer.

>>13982691
this

>>13982691
SEETHING

https://www.hautehorlogerie.org/en/the-foundation/cultural-council/white-paper-on-fine-watchmaking/

>>13982695
>implying these people give a shit about whats in a watch as long as the brand name is on it

>hate a brand so much that you make absolutely sure it's the topic of every thread

>>13982702
Scroll to the top and look at this >>13982111
>>13982111
>>13982111
It’s Seiko baiting

>>13982702
the jap who got his grandad in ww2 was wearing a seiko

this is personal

So is the lawyer guy the only one who actually owns luxury brands and posts here?

>>13982708
>replies for 150 posts
>"it was all his fault!"

>>13982699
>Haute Horlogerie Foundation

>>13982717
Talking about the people in >>13982683
>>13982686

>>13982244

>>13982244

>>13982265
fw190's used to dive bomb my town because it was literally within sight of france (near dover)

nobody fucking cares or recognises my flieger

Guys, I've narrowed down the watch I'm gonna buy to a datejust or omega aqua terra. Which would you get?

The omega is a bit cheaper and not so much of an old man's watch so I was leaning to that

>>13982871
i would go with the omega

>>13982871
i hate them both.

no modern luxury watch with a solid caseback should have less than 200m of water resistance

>>13982871
WTF is up with the Datejust's proportions?

>>13982871
aqua terra bro

>>13982804
U jelly?
http://www.newdwf.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=8289

>>13982911
Of Tom's collection? Obviously, yes. I'm thinking about buying the 4mhz Omega prototype he's currently selling but he's asking a lot for it.

>>13982871
36mm Datejust. Blue dial, baton indices, fluted bezel on a jubilee bracelet.

>>13982943
I’d go 116234. Blue dial with a roulette date wheel and oyster bracelet.

>>13982708
How is that post baiting?
It's an objective comparison on the topic of high horology finishing.

These are the brand whoring baitposts: >>13982250
>>13982263
>>13982387

Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause

>>13982563
I've been thinking this too.

Between the obstinent denial of photographic evidence, the photoshopped Grand Seiko flaws and getting caught red-handed samefagging, it's hard to believe anyone would unironically be this desperate and stupid.

>>13982600
>>13982616
lel the patek has considerably worse bracelet gap than the grand seiko.

This Grand Seiko vs Rolex argument is retarded and so is everyone involved in it.

>>13983027
hublot vs panerai when?

>>13981847
w2c?

Post your /wt/ sins / great deeds, I'll start:
-Bullying ninefag away
-GS vs Rolex finishing arguments (taking both sides)
-Bead posting
-"Thoughts on" posting and posting various hideous fashion shitters here
-Choosing a shitter brand and forcing it, Pulsar, Seiko, Lorus (all seiko kek), Vincero, DW etc
-Posting pics from this blog (https://watchesandwomen.wordpress.com/)) to stir shit up (managed to get one anon post his gf, pic related)
-Telling shitter owners to fuck off from this general and forcing Rolex and other expensive pieces in general
-Coming up with memes and guides to force luxury watches
-Archieposting
-TGV posting

>>13982871
Aqua Terra. Datejusts all look fucked

Is there a dirt cheap homage to big pilot? Like under 40 dollars? I want to buy Parnis but before that I would like to try the style for a while.

>>13983111
>under 40 dollars
god thats a spooky price limit

>>13982713
Sadly yes. The rest here are seikoshills with delusional aspirations, secretly seething.

>>13983122
i'm looking and I think the parnis is the cheapest you can go without entering ebay chinkshit tier

>>13983143
meant for >>13983111

>>13983041
Panerai are one of the worst brands going. Second hand jewellers won't accept them as the fakes are as good as the real thing.
Both are footballer-tier trash tough.

>>13982871
That Rolex looks shit. The markers are huge.

>>13983143
Thanks man,I just wanted to know because all I could find were IWC top gun knockoffs for 20 dollars and I just like the clean dial of big pilot but obviously they don't make them in cheap quartz versions.

which would you cop?

top left is the cheapest and COSC

>>13983192
Bottom left

>>13983192
Tissot STINKS, get either Mido.

>As excinting as Seiko design.

>>13982695
Jacob & Co. BTFO
Grand Seiko BTFO
Credor BTFO

>>13982871
Omega. DateJusts are a meme, you're an absolute sucker if you get one. Not even women wear those anymore.

>>13983330
>hautehorlogerie.org

>>13983343
>50 independent members from the most egregious watchmakers
what the are you on about? There's even an Audemars descendant.

>>13983063
>https://watchesandwomen.wordpress.com/
what the fuck is that site?

>>13983359
That's not what egregious means lmao.

Also,
>hautehorlogerie.org

>>13983377
>that's not what it means
nigger are you being retarded on purpose?
I still don't get what you're on about that site

>>13983384
He's a seething seikoshill. Ignore him.

>>13983384
Egregious means terrible.

>>13983377
>Dismissing the Foundation of High Horlogerie
>Dismissing the very organisers of SIHH

>>13983391
It also means remarkably good you retard, pick up a book. Do you know where the word comes from? Latin. It means "out of the herd", outstanding, remarkable.
>>13983390
But I am a seething rolex shill (not really), and I must reply to every Seiko (lmao) shill like I have been doing for the past 5 threads.

>>13983392
>>13983384
Imagine being such a brand whore that you go to hautehorlogerie.org to be told what counts and does not count as haute horlogerie.

>>13983406
>It also means remarkably good
Not for the last 100 years.

>>13983408
Seiko Derangement Syndrome claims yet another victim. It's an epidemic.

>>13983410
>t.zoomer
Sorry, from now on I'll use language that has been around for less than 20 years so that you may understand me better.
Yooooo deez watches good nigga, like really good, and the niggas that be making dem watches be fucking lit yo.Tight ass watchmakers right there cuh lemme tell ya. Now those niggas even be making a foundation to school lesser niggas about watches senpai. They be saying that yellow niggas ain't good at making watches, forreal.

>>13983408
Imagine being so delusional that you can't take the word of a hugely respected association cause it fucking destroys your deranged version of reality

>>13983412
>Upvoted

>>13983192
Firstly, learn to crop you silly cunt. Secondly, they're all shit but if you must get one of those then bottom right.

>>13982695
>>13983330
>>13983359
>>13983384
>>13983390
>>13983392
>>13983406
>>13983412
>>13983450
>>13982631
>go to that site's "History of Watchmaking" page
>it makes no mention of the first Seiko quartz watch released in 1969
>they only mention Swiss quartz "milestones"

Pic related.
They mention Arafat becoming the leader of the PLO, but not the Seiko Astron.

Yeah, totally unbiased site lmao.

>>13983461
>quartz
>horology
Pick one

>>13983461
SEETHE MORE

>>13983467
>>13983469
>it mentions the "first quartz watch with LED"
>but not the Seiko fucking Astron

50 years later, the Swiss are still butthurt.

>>13983461
The Swiss are still butthurt over Seiko Astron lmao.
They don't want to give spotlight to the thing that nearly brought them down.

Also, Swiss foundation, Swiss bias, pretty simple.

any opinions and experiences about this watch or about the brand as general?

>>13983499
It's the cheapest "good" watch. Ask any watch enthusiast and they'll suggest Orient if you ask for something nice that doesn't break the bank. I always recommend saving up for your grail watch but if you don't have one go ahead, it's a solid piece.

>>13983527
i dont have a grail watch atm im looking for something similar (dressy, minimalist with leather strap nice contrasting colors)
and recommendations /fa/?

>>13983540
you gotta give a budget my guy

>>13983547
half grand at max maybe 600 usd

>>13983499
It's alright for a cheap 'dressy' watch. It needs to be smaller and lose the date window though.

>>13983553
also used is all fine with me so that counts

>>13983553
That's outside my knowledge sorry :/
Someone else in here surely can help you out though.

>>13983540
38mm intra matic.

>>13983553
Junghans Max Bill is perfect.

>>13983587
>>13983589
alrigth niggas these are literaly perfect and what I was looking for
thank you guys

Are any of the rumors about TGV true? Is there proof? He seems like a sleazy douche but I don't wanna judge a guy by rumors alone

>>13983632
The source of those rumours is ac3 alone, no other guy really has any beef with him.

>>13983632
It's not hard to believe he's paid by Squale and some of the smaller brands he always talks about. In his recent state of the collection video he spent 5 seconds talking about his rolex sub and 5 minutes talking about some shitty microbrand. It was a totally unoriginal design and looked like a $50 mall watch but insisted he was "having lots of fun with it". Off camera I bet he just wears his sub

Jubilee divers are goat

>>13983732
Yes that is pretty fuckin obvious, I was however referring to the other rumors. Like that he stalked some girl, threatened his "competition", lies about his noble family and so on. I saw people mentioning screen shots

>>13983499
Wow I love this
>40.5mm case
FUCK. I hate being a wristlet.

>>13983932
me too man

Perlage on the inside of a Pobeda caseback. There's no pattern, the circles are just shat on there completely random.

>>13983963
There's a big chunk near the top they haven't bothered to do at all.

I was given a lightbox as a gift. Do you guys want me to take some pictures of my watches?

>>13984044
yes i do

trying to find good buys on ebay. Recently came across a string of giant watch lots. Are they basically scams and filled with junk? Bidding at like $70 for 100+ watches. Should I stay away from lots altogether? I've previously bought a Seiko and Gucci from eBay but haven't tried anything else yet.

>>13984044
Yes. Pics of the lightbox as well

I might keep this.

>>13983932
My wrist is 7.25", so it fits OK, but I still can't get myself to love it. It's just too big for the style.

>>13984057
>>13984135

Okay, I'll post in a while

>>13984144
how much is it?

>>13984147
love this one

>>13984177
bout $1000

>>13984177
Well no, actually $50 in total.

>>13984144
Wish seiko made a new piece with that sort of patterned case finishing.

>>13984144
I wish the penis quartz had normal lugs. That's the only thing I hate about them.

>>13984207
Type II penis had some.

>>13984215
Good to know. Thank you.

>>13982542
>implying there's any value to devalue.

>>13982553
Because he's permanently seething about how unbelievably overpriced european watches are.

>>13982565
>pays of pedigree
>not quality
I bet you think pic related is an stud because it's got superior pedigree.
>Why get an American bred working GSD when you can get a German GSD with PEDIGREE!

>>13983856
link?

>>13982663
Wouldn't buy one myself, but I like that Rolex is at least kinda being trying new things.

>>13983856
His family is legit. He is a direct descendant from landed nobles, I think his grandfather was a Duke and he'd be the heir of titles still carried on. He does exaggerate though. He tried to say the Pitcairn Islanders were his cousins in a recent video, which really is pushing it because they've been isolated from England for centuries.

>>13982611
Me all the way on the left

>>13984544
Are you retarded? ancestry is extremely easy to track on pitcairn island since there's only like a dozen families there.

>>13984507
>$300 pair of scissors

>>13984799
I'm saying that they're extremely distant relations at this point and really stretches the definition of cousin. Going all the way back to an 18th century mutineer and claiming all of his descendants as your own is a bit much.

>>13984807
But that's the literal definition of a descendant.

petition to replace hodinkee video in the OP with these guys instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rlLL7cOtw

>>13984814
For Fletcher Christian, sure. Not for an anglo-italian mutt born in the late 20th century

>>13984815
>vostok
>vintage omega
>a few seikos
>calculator casio

both millionaires with these but this thread will still fling shit about 10k+ watches they'll never own, incredible

Picked this up today on a whim.

First foray into divers, so I didn't want to drop a ton of money on something I wasn't sure I was going to like or not. Gonna make it my daily for the next couple weeks and see how I feel about it then.

Can anyone recommend a decent nato strap in the Costa Rican flag's colorway? I want to slap it on my skx009.

Trying to find something nicer than your shitter 4-pack of straps with a tool and spring bars for $10 on Amazon. Thanks to you all

>>13984827
>>13984815
the most expensive watch there was the planet ocean and you could tell how he talks about it that s his grail watch

Is there a way to tell if a mechanical movement is objectively better than another other than finishing and claimed accuracy? And if so, then what is the method? And what is the best movement?

>>13982241
Macro lens
The rest is the usual photography

>>13984844

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/omega-nato-straps-031cwz010674w

>>13981852
poors out

>>13981852

ATROCIOUS GAP

>>13985061
>sEiKo iS A CoMpLeTeLy dIfFeReNt eNtItY FrOm gRaNd sEiKo

>>13985061
Even after a motorcycle accident, a Sub looks good.

>>13985061
Even after a motorcycle accident, a Rolex looks good.

>>13985061
I would get tired of these if it wasn't for that assblasted grand shiteiko retard and his full of delusion and stupidity

>>13985073
Rolex with the dark side of the moon bezel

>>13985075
Grand Shitterists be like

>>13982351
pretty nice
>>13982469
Fits right, would like to see how thick the case looks though
>>13984147
what watch is this?
>>13984839
This looks big, maybe change band

>>13984147
is this white or creme dial?

>>13985075
I would too, but the assblasted rolliefags are equally amusing, and equally deluded.

>>13985145
>watch with unknown provenance and service history
>has flaws
>Rolex brand bad!

>>13982547

What's wrong with that caliber?

>>13985098
Samenflüssigkeit dial. Very rare.

>>13985148<<
See, this is what I'm talking about. It's like a battle of delusions.

>>13985089
Bambino
>>13985098
White

>>13985166
That’s not the Samenflüssigkeit dial?

>>13985166
I’m sure that’s the Samenflüssigkeit one. Can you post a close up?

Is it bad that I like german and swiss brands more than Seiko just because they feel like home ground to me as a european?

>>13985182
That's not bad, that's good

>>13985078
Pic related is the only DSotM I like, this or the all lume one

>>13985157
Not so much the caliber itself but what's around it.

>>13985148
It's from a Watchfinder video, it's a legit Rolex with known provenance.
And service history has nothing to do with deficient dial print.

>>13985075
>assblasted grand shiteiko retard and his full of delusion and stupidity
That's real rich coming from a brand whore who was caught literally photoshopping flaws into Grand Seikos and samefagging (pic related).

>>13985145
This is my rolex >>13983852
And here is its dial. Immaculate. There must be something wrong with that one, maybe serviced at a shady place with a "redial"?

>>13985300
Rolex simply has pretty lax standards when it comes to dial print.

>>13985301
Guess its hand printed, also those are one offs to be sure (still unacceptable i know), been to the local ad to look closely at rolexes, never seen such glaring issues... just look at my Tudor where the dial is made by Rolex, its perfect.

>>13985311
>Guess its hand printed
Knowing Rolex it's probably automated.

>also those are one offs to be sure (still unacceptable i know), been to the local ad to look closely at rolexes, never seen such glaring issues..
These aren't the kinds of things you spot right away. There's a whole watch to take in before you start looking for print defects.
This is the kind of flaw you notice by accident, and then can't get out of your head for the rest of your ownership period.

>>13985311
I have some questions sorry if it sounds weird. Can you just go to an AD and ask them to look at watches? Do you know the AD or have you purchased from them? How closely do they let you look? Can you ask them to let you look at any watch?

>>13985337
Unless you look like a slob I guess any AD is willing to show you a watch. Otherwise they wouldnt be selling a lot of watches. Yes, I do dress well and present myself in general politely, so Ive never had anything wierd at ADs. Sometimes I even tell them about my powerlevel in watches, and they just stare like deer. Funny. Yesterday I was looking at the Bambino, and i told the salesperson that Orient is owned by Seiko, she got really flustered and thought I meant it as a bad thing lol

>>13985351
So you don't already have a relationship with the AD? I imagine you also go there just to look and don't buy anything, they're ok with you just looking at watches and then saying "bye"? Do you go to the same AD multiple times? Are the clerks/salespeople knowledgeable in watches or are they just there as "cashiers"?
I apologize in advance for my autism.

New thread:

>>13985354
>>13985354
>>13985354

>>13985360
Ofcourse not, no problem, I do understand it can be a little wierd just to go look at 10k usd watches for fun. But desu ADs are desperate to sell most of the time and any opportunity to sell is created by presenting it to interested parties.

>>13985404
thanks for the replies

>>13984921
I want the Costa Rican flag, like my original post, not the French flag in your link

>>13982469
Doesn't really look that oversized, but the traditional 36mm will fit you much better.

>>13983499
Orient makes good stuff, not much to say

>>13983152
Open the caseback and look at the movement. Ez pz lemon negro.

>>13983152
Watchnigger here, right now I have both a fake and a real Panerai on repair. I can do pics when I get back, but there's literally no difference in quality.

The fake needs a new screw bar for the strap, and the gen needs an entire bracelet tube and pin replacement.

>>13985978
Where did you get the fake from?

>>13987493
Customer brought it in for repair.