/fa/ - Fashion

First for Breitling

>>13943193
Patek Philippe Perfection.

Poor man's Lange!

Hello wt.

The aevig huldra has a miyota 9015. It's a pretty standard design. Like many microbrand without a date, the date mechanism is still present in the movement; it audibly clicks over (though not at midnight) and the quicksetting position for the crown is still present.

>>13943240
The no date version (90S5) is also somewhat skeletonized right? Makes keeping the 9015 in a no date watch at least partially justifiable.

how is nomos so popular? they literally look like shit

>muh bauhaus

these designs are literally offensively boring

Seiko prospex or citizen diver?

>>13943255
citizen watch

>>13943258
yes

>>13943258
Orient Triton, or Mako USA 2 my man. How the fuck are you gonna want an oriental watch, and not chose ORIENT? Makes no sense

>>13943257
They're plain and simple(boring), and hipsters are really into that right now.

>>13943317
looks like a gay hipster's watch of choice

>>13943257
Nicely decorated movements for the price.

Only Stowa and Seiko can compete at that aspect for similar price.

>>13943329
nomos aren't cheap. fucking shitters

After being jerked around by USPS my strap finally arrived. Really happy with how it turned out given I've never had a blue strap before. Always loved how soft ColaReb straps are.

>>13943334
looking good, guy
I personally hate straps because of that gap, but I may be autistic

>>13943368
Thanks,
I might pic up a bracelet for this, but I like the versatility of leather, and can always just wear my Alpinist if I want a braceleted watch. The better fit on a bracelet is nice though.

Just ordered my most expensive watch ever. A used Autodromo Group B in yellow. What have I done?

>>13943415
You bought an expensive shitter

>>13943415
The group b is pretty nice. Lots of little details in the dial & the finishing of the case.

>>13943415
looks like you could easily lose it on the couch

>>13943460
I got the gen 1 version with the fixed lug bars so it'll only take nato straps. Wasn't sure I'd like the stainless band. Guess I can always resell it later if I don't like it

>>13943329
>seiko
LMFAO

>>13943476
post arguments

>>13943255
SHITTERS!

>>13943255

So many shitters, so little time

>>13943474
It's pretty light on a strap thanks to the titanium parts. I just prefer bracelets to straps in general which is why I got the series 2. Also the dial is more orange in person.

>>13943415

Nice 80s aesthetic, looks like something designed by Giugiaro.

>>13943479
Nomos and especially Stowa take a big steamy pile of shit all over seiko

>>13943505
why?

There are people RIGHT NOW recommending others to get a Tudor.
PSA: DO. NOT. GET. A. TUDOR!!!!

I fell for the finishing meme on this movement, but I can't afford anything alike.
Affordable alternatives??

>>13943257
I like Nomos. I hope to get an Orion one day.
Fight me.

>>13943559
who gives a shit that bitch is just guessing which watches shes "supposed" to like

>>13943564
thats beautiful
anything in the 300 range?

>>13943589
>anything in the 300 range
that watch retails for +20k, so maybe the strap?

I'm looking for something in the 1000 - 1500 usd?

/wt/ really isn’t feeling this?

>>13943603
wish I could vomit on command

>>13943603

>>13943609
If I to wear that türdling, I could.

>>13943332
I wish there were more choices at the 2k to 4k range for nice casebacks.
>>13943476
Sorry, Grand Seiko. Regular Seiko isn't particularly nice on the back.

>>13943616
>Grand Seiko
honest question
Can a Grand Seiko provide the quality finishing of pic related?
>>13943564

>>13943628
lol no

>>13943628
D'you really expect a production watch at around $6k to compete with an independent made watch at $20k?

>>13943638
Dude, it was worth the shot.
I'm poor, but not stupid.

>>13943643
There's probably something at least comparable in that price range (especially if you don't count the patterened micro rotor), but I can't think of anything off-hand.

>>13943654
Maybe a preowned Glashüte Original??

>>13943628
Lol no
At least not the "cheap" ones
If you really wanted Seiko you'd have to get a stupid expensive credor like the eichi ii

I mean, even some of the lower priced credors have it, but those are still damn expensive

>>13943669
Yea probably, pic related is (was?) 9800 yurobux new.

>>13943676
>>13943629
>>13943638
If responses are so absolut that there is no laughable chance a Grand Seiko can come even close to that level of finishing, why so many people are falling for the Seiko meme??
Again, honest question.

>>13943598
Your only choices that don't require lots of hunting and waiting for blue screws and jewels are stowa, used nomos club, or gamble on chinkshit like seagull and Beijing Watch Factory.

>>13943688
Because Grand Seiko sits in a tier where the likes of Omega, Rolex, and Tudor sit and thus the CASE finish is comparable or better. Seiko in general focuses on case finishing over other aspects and is what makes them stand out from watches of similar price until you get stupid expensive like a parmigiani. Even the ones I recommend above pale in comparison to it.

>>13943688
It's because that level of finishing is great at that price point, not at something more than 3x that price point. It shows more in things like the hands, indices & case than it does in the movement. The movement has good beveling & cotes de geneve but seiko tends to go with straight brushing instead of perlage. If you want dufour tier perfect polished bevels you'd have to go with a micro art studio credor.

>>13943559
Imagine being this autistic and thinking girls give a shit about watches other than posting their Michael Kors logos on Instagram. Imagine buying a watch because of what you think a girl will think about it.

I'm gonna get a Tudor and I'm not gonna care and there's nothing you can do about it so stay mad flaming faggot.

>>13943730
Keep your strawmans and your shit watch to yourself. For the rest of us smart people we will take a pass on Tudor.

>>13943542
Superior watches, hurr

>>13943598
What type of watch?

what is it with youtube watchfags and always whining about people not liking seiko as much as they do? cancerous community who try to hype up their shit watches and gets mad when no one really wants that shit

>>13943581
She gave her honest opinion fuckass

>>13943603
I like it. Wear it in good health friend.

>>13943779
glad you can keep a point

Looking for a moonphase chronograph under 2k because I want some meme complications, narrowed down my options to these two. Leaning towards the b&m, opinions?

>>13943866
yes
yes you are

>>13943866
Go for Longines. B&M are worsely made.

>>13943628
>comparing a movement found in a $15,000 watch to a $7000 one.
Gee I wonder.

>>13943866
why the fuck would you buy either of these shitters

>>13943564
>>13943886
I just learned that the references in gold cases (like pic related) have microrotors made of solid platinum and retail for above the 20k mark.

Who presages here?

>>13943730
>Imagine being this autistic and thinking girls give a shit about watches other than posting their Michael Kors logos on Instagram. Imagine buying a watch because of what you think a girl will think about it.
truth

>>13943941
that bracelet style is so god awful

>>13943941
no one, get some casio like me >>13943255

>>13943255
imagine buying all this shit just to bait people
the only ones that look decent are the sub clones and the casio you put on some hideous strap
sigh

>>13943978
Stay mad

>>13943986
jesus fucking christ wish I had that toddler skin

>>13943986
not mad, don't even care, just in disbelief at how pathetic you are honestly

>>13943991
he's a pewdie slav
they're on a quest leave them alone

>>13943990
my face isn't haggard but I've had acne, so it evens out

>>13943991
yes the angry man is in disbelief someone bought more cheap staple watches than normal

>>13943941
Hello

>>13944046
thats pretty
do you own only one?

Is anyone else put off by Rolex?

I mean they are cool but I feel the unwanted attention and assumptions non watch people would make would be too annoying

Rolex is cool but I don’t think it’s better than a JLC, Zenith etc

>>13944068
yes

>>13944068
No. Only contrarians dislike it and the envious that know nothing about watches who don't know JLC, Zenith is also quality
I want a datejust with a fluted bezel bad

>>13944076
Cyclops a shit

I’d rather fly under the radar with a JLC or Zenith

>>13944080
>Cyclops a shit
Sometimes

>I’d rather fly under the radar
I want to wear what I like, JLC ultra thin moonphase

>>13944049
Only one presage, but two Seikos.

>>13944085
Oh and the datejust

>>13944076
I like Rolex's watches, but I hate their business practices, and price gauging. Pre-maxipad explorers are peak tool watch, and I've seen a Yacht Master at a local pawn shop that was pure 38mm bliss.

>>13944068
That video of a rolex dealership staffed by fat ugly nigresses was an eye opener. Pure trash. absolutely disgusting.

>>13943603
Why would anyone think that's a good watch?

>>13944068
>Rolex is cool but I don’t think it’s better than a JLC, Zenith etc

JLC are haute horology, producing watches in the classical dress watch tradition. Rolex try to make the most reliable and accurate mechanical tool watches. Very different brands making very different watches. Zenith are shit.

>>13944183
>Rolex try to make the most reliable and accurate mechanical tool watches.
And then charge double what they're worth.

>>13944186
>And then charge double what they're worth.
In your opinion. If it was that easy to produce a watch of that quality at half the price why is no one else doing it?

>>13944188
What $4000 diver is noticeably lower quality than a submariner?

>>13944191
All of them? Name me one that is of equal quality.

>>13944183
>Zenith are shit
>praises Rolex
>Rolex used the EP movement
>those daytonas are some of the most desirable rolexes

KYs moron

>>13944198
All of them. Two can play that game m8.

>>13944188
Not him, but do tell me what changed between 2006 and 2014 to justify a near doubling in price of the submariner.

>>13944200
Read it again. I wasn't praising Rolex, just stating why it wasn't a valid comparison.

> Rolex used the EP movement
Yes they did and had to replace half of it to fix it.

>>13944211
> tell me what changed between 2006 and 2014 to justify a near doubling in price of the submariner.

erm, the Swiss Franc exchange rate?

>>13944214
>erm, the Swiss Franc exchange rate?
So nothing to do with the actual quality of the watch then? Think about that for a second.

>>13944183
Why is zenith's so shit?

>>13944218
anon I don't think you understand basic math.

>>13943559
>ooh nice rolex anon

why do people only complain about rolexes but not royal oaks/nautiluses(?)
isnt this just simple supply and demand?

>>13944223
If it's the exchange rate that increased the price, and not anything to do with the watch itself, that just proves the point that a $4k 2006 sub is not any higher quality than a near-$8k 2014 sub.

>>13944225
those things are genuinely in short supply. There are like 10,000+ submariners for sale right now.

>>13944224
She would have fucked him if he was wearing his Rolex instead of his Tudor pelagos

>>13943564
>anon what nice finishing you have on the movement I cant see

Convince me that this isn't the perfect looking watch.
This thing is pure sex.

>>13944211
Interesting chart. So this watch was about 50% more expensive than the submariner in the late 70s?

>>13944237
Depends on how strong the yen was at the time I suppose.

>>13944219
They’re not. Objectively top 10 brand

Non independents:

10. TAG Heuer
9. Blancpain
8. Zenith
7. Omega
6. Jaeger LeCoultre
5. Rolex
4. Vacheron Constatin
3. Audemars Piguet
2. A. Lange & Sohne
1. Patek Philippe

>>13944225
Because non watch people only know Rolex

>>13944233
It looks pretty good but the way the back-end of the hour and minute hands obscure the dials kills my boner a bit. Why the fuck do watchmakers do that

>>13944233
Close but the open heart ones are better

Tried one on the other day, it was literally fucking amazing. Made breitlings seem like complete garbage

>>13943866
Longines much more classicaly styled. Buy the oris atelier though, used

>>13944228
Even if Rolex had made no changes over all those years, which obviously isn't true, remember all other Swiss made watches are just as affected too. Where are the cheaper Sub clones that are up to Rolex standards?

>>13944248
>Even if Rolex had made no changes over all those years, which obviously isn't true
That's what I was asking for in the first place, some examples of these changes.

>>13944237
Assuming the yen was worth the same I wouldn't be surprised givin how new quartz watches were then. There's a reason King Quartz are still worth something, even in this age of quartz shitters.

>>13944225
Many many people complain about Patek restricting stock of their steel sports watches. Waiting lists are upto 8 years for the 5711.

The Royal Oak doesn't have any shortages so what's to complain about? The only AP watches that are hard to get are certain limited editions and boutique only models.

>>13944250
Rolex developed ways to manufacture their watches faster and cheaper, so they passed the saving on to you by raising the price.

>>13944253
From what I remember AP (dealers?) is kinda snobbish about ordering the 15202st. Just read >>>/g/65252072

>>13944214
>erm, the Swiss Franc exchange rate?
So why doesn't every other swiss watch cost double what it did in 2006?

>>13944250
That's actually a harder question to answer than you'd think. Rolex often make improvements to movements and materials but keep the same model reference so unless they advertise it no one knows until some 3rd party takes the watch apart.

For example they changed the mineral oils they use as lubricant in several of their models about 2 years ago and now AD say they only need to be serviced every 10 years instead of 5.

>>13944258
>make improvements to movements and materials but keep the same model reference
Yea that does make things difficult to keep track. Revisions without actually changing the model number/reference is pretty standard across a lot of industries though.

>>13944258
I think it’s smart. Look at Omega for example. They are all over the shop, the used market is fucked, grey market is huge and you can get huge discounts from ADs. Plus they fuck themselves by releasing so many different watches often with radical changes from one year to the next.

Rolex have preserved their business and image so much better

>>13943267
Not sure if you're actually being paid by Hamilton but you should be. Was planning on buying a Damasko, now considering this and a Sinn as alternatives.

A bit wary of the size tho, my wrist is 7.5" got any wrist shots my guy?

>women loves watches
It literally brings out their inner jew!

>>13944292
Dang that date window style and placement is really unfortunate. Rest looks ok

>>13943628
>>13943629
>>13943638
>>13943676
>>13943886
>>13943688
Grand Seiko itself does have hand-finished movements as well. See pic.
The design of the movement architecture is minimalist, but I can absolutely guarantee you that this GS movement is finished to a much higher standard than that Parmigiani.
The bevels, the jewel and screw countersinks, ... are all hand polished to a much higher degree for instance.
The Parmigiani is very much "entry level" when it comes to decorative finishing, while the GS movement in pic has finishing of the very highest level.

You should know that most of Grand Seiko's movements are finished to a similar standard as Rolex or Omega movements: pretty much entirely machine finished with almost no hand finishing and typically no bevels (or at the most relatively crude machined bevels). This is very normal in this price range.

However: you should know that "Seiko" the parent company is extremely serious about hand movement finishing, but mostly in the Credor line (and the GS in pic).
Seiko even hired the absolute grandmaster of hand movement finishing Philippe Dufour to train their hand finishing staff.

>>13943257
reddit chain reaction of it being easily recognizeable among well paid web devs/IT/editors so they can circlejerl about quality and simplicity without being all into watches

>>13944313
Yea I forgot about the 8-day spring drive. That is done by the micro art studio so no wonder it's well finished.

>>13943688
>If responses are so absolut that there is no laughable chance a Grand Seiko can come even close to that level of finishing, why so many people are falling for the Seiko meme??
When people talk about Grand Seiko finishing, they're not talking about the internal finishing, i.e. the movements (which are finished to a "nice utilitarian" degree, very much like Rolex movements).

Grand Seiko's external finishing (case, dial, hands, ...) is absolutely legendary however, blowing the likes of Rolex and even Patek Philippe out of the water.

>>13944233
i cant lad. el primero is coolest watch outside pp, als etc

>>13943603
SWISS QUARTZ

>>13944087
If this was posted back on /g/ it would have been praised and turned into next thread edition image

>>13944321
The big hand genuinely looks cheap and nasty but the criticism of the smaller patek hand seems like bit of a reach and makes it seem like you'll complain about nothing.

>>13944276
get the Sinn

Hello /fa/

>>13944337
So rough edges are excusable on a small hand like that? Somehow the small power reserve hand here looks just as immaculate as the larger hands.

>>13943196
first post boomer post

>>13943255
>i call it "my shitbox"

>>13944344
>Seiko

how original

>>13944344
They're not excusable on a 50 grand watch but a lot of (most?) people are gonna be squinting at the picture and zooming in and wondering wtf you're complaining about, especially on a phone. It makes the infograph less persuasive and you'd be better off sifting through videos for some better material imo.

Cool watches:
Patek Philippe
Audemars Piguet
Vacheron Constatin
FP Journe
A. Lange & Sohne
Blancpain
Rolex
Zenith
Jaeger LeCoultre

Not cool but not uncool:
Panerai
Hublot
Richard Mille
Piaget
Breguet
TAG Heuer
Tudor
Omega
IWC

Uncool watches:
Grand Seiko
Cartier
Breitling
Oris
Longines
Nomos
Frederique Constant
Bell & Ross
Girard Perregaux
Roger Dubuis
Ulysse Nardin
Bremont
Glashutte Original
Baume & Mercier
Chopard
Montblanc
Rado
Raymond Weil
Maurice Lacroix

>>13944352
I dunno m8, the ridges seem visible enough to me.

>>13944337
Butthurt.

>>13944352
The lines are pretty damn obvious.

>>13944385
>give advice on how to make your position more persuasive
>butthurt
Go be an idiot somewhere else pls.

Is the only criticism of this watch that it’s not a Rolex?

>>13944398
It doesn't have a crown guard. I don't give a shit if it's a tribute to an old watch that didn't have one.

My baby

>>13944389
It’s plain to see that little hand is unfinished. Less obviously so than the larger hand, but obvious nonetheless.

>>13944349
The discussion is about Seiko, dumb dumb.

>>13944360
>Breguet not cool
I feel offended, those dials pull chicks like mad

>>13944224
who dis

rank these 4 watches purely on visual style

>>13944343
White power

>>13944352
Blind fuck looking on an iphone 4s would see those. No excuse on a 20k watch, neither on a 1k watch!!

>>13944264
Say what you want but at least you can buy a speedy/ seamaster if you want one and have the money without jumping though hoops.

>>13944515
Defy
jlc
hublot
pilot

>>13944515

Hublot > Jaeger > Zenith left > Zenith right

>>13944360
top class, my friend

>>13944313
>>Yawn
That movements is so sterile and boring I might as well buy a quartz.
Even at this level, the japs can't match a quality swiss designed movement.

Just picked up this dinner from my local second hand shop. Paid 40 quid and got this beauty. Very happy with it, gonna wear this to the pub later.

>>13944736
Looks cool.
Wear it in good health.

>>13943809
I mean, I like Eterna, Zenith, and Cartier more but no one here ever wants to talk about them except for that one guy who hates the el primero

>>13944360
>tag heuer not uncool

>your most hated watch brand
>the one watch from their collection you would wear

How can the swiss ever beat the chinese or japanese? Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, swiss watches cant touch them. Think if the chinese launched a Huawei type of brand for watches, there would be a new crisis. Example: this 120$ columns wheel chronogtaoh which costs around 1500$ from the swiss

>>13944276
Same size as you

>>13944799
A little less artistic view of it.

>>13943255
wow, a box full of dogs. i couldn't wear any of these without being embarrassed, especially that shameless submariner replica

Though speedmasterlike chrono design invented by the swiss, is the epitome of design.

>>13943559
where is this from

>>13944225
Rolex are the standard, they're the most recognized so all the contrarians pretend if it was their business, they wouldn't charge more for a desired popular product
It's envious seething virgin 101

https://youtu.be/DhnTlvKCsYQ
>me when I cant find a big titty dumb bimbo gf

>>13944242
>open heart

>>13944360
Where is Omega?

>>13944799
>>13944802
Watches are brand + marketing, actual manufacturing plays little part in them, that's the reason manufacturers like patek use equipment that is hundred years old.

>>13944240
Which of these are the most affordable for a college student saving money who wants a nice watch to wear for years?

>>13944835
> that's the reason manufacturers like patek use equipment that is hundred years old.
Are you retarded? Fuck me what a stupid comment

>>13943460
Neat case and bracelet design. Might have to look in to this.

>>13944842
Hamilton

>>13944240
Put Jaeger before Rolex you nasty pedophile and that list is true.

>>13943559
Y U so jelly

>>13943559
>gf literally picks the tudor as one of her favourites in the video

>>13944886
this never happened

I’d love this version of the Group B

>>13943262
CITIZEN WATCH

>>13944240
>Tag Huehuehue anywhere near the top 10 of watch brands

>>13944802
Is that an ST19? The one on the 1963 is finished much nicer than that.

anyone know of watches with a similar aesthetic (and ideally between $500-800)?

>>13944967
yeah

>>13944967
Yes

>>13944965
Honestly looks like just a better photo, and mine is way more detailed. But wouldnt be surprised since its third party brand

Is a Stowa Marine the cheapest way to get a watch with proper heat blued hands? I was discussing it with a guy at work that said he wants to get a watch with blued hands.

>>13944974
Nah there is some kind of almost Geneva striping on the 1963, on yours it looks like it's been scraped along the sidewalk.

>>13944972
yeah i saw that one when looking around, but i cant get over the hour markers and how they come to a point at the top. just don't like it. i really like the ingot shape in the prestige i posted, but don't want to drop $2200 on it.

>>13944970
care to share, friend?

>>13944967
SARB035

What brand should I put on this pos? Should I fall for the leather nato meme?

>>13944360
>sucking swiss marketer dick tier

>>13944987
>leather nato

>>13944892
I love meme shitters too

>>13944990
Ok, what do you recommend instead?

>>13944886
#fakenews
The Tudor he's wearing is her least favorite

>>13944996
Put it on the TGV valor NATO strap

>>13945007
That's even more meme than a leather nato.

Urban gentry pls go

>>13945015
Uhm sweetie? We are the young gentry. The valor strap represents the Victoria Cross that TGV's ancestor died in battle for.

>>13944515
Bottom left > top right > Bottom right > top left

watches with numbers are always weaker

>>13944441
looks used, you should get a g-shock

>>13944975
Fake blued hands are pretty good honestly, is it really that big of a deal?

Want to get a 1963 Seagull, 38mm acrylic, anyone recommend the best source?

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Do People Actually Wear This Hahahaha Nigga Do You Like Showing People You're Poor Like Nigga Shop Somewhere Other Than Walmart Haha

>>13944360
>i have more money than taste
We know

>>13945057
if you are in Europe, buy from watchunique, if not buy from watchunique.

>>13944736
Nice Rollie dude

>>13945024
top class, my friend.

>>13945059
Beats wearing a Tudor that's for sure

>>13943559
Tiddy bulbasaur

>>13944802
Basically this >>13944835
There's a reason Rolexs cost $8k+ when they're only finished to the level of a $3k watch. The brand's name often matters more than their product, especially to normies who barely even know the difference between mechanical and quartz.

>>13944736
top class,
sincerely
Young Gentry

>>13945084
What’s that, a fucking pokeman joke, you filthy millennial?

>>13945090
is this what poor people cope looks like?

>>13945095
Prove me wrong
>pro tip - you can't

This watch wad laying around in a drawer at my dads, but I can't figure out what the reference/model no is. It's a manual wind from the 70s or earlier. The (intergrated, soldered on actually) mesh strap and case are silver, according to my dad. He used to be a silver smith, so I'll take his word for it, even though I think it's an unusual material for watches (oxidation prone as fuck).

It actually runs on time (wound it, and it kept time for the few hours I was there) even though I suspect it has never been serviced or repaired.

Besides the 'incabloc 17 rubis' referring to the anti-shock & jewels theres nothing on the dial apart from the 'Safira' brand.

Anyone have any idea what this is, and if it's rare? I'd like to get one if they're somewhat reachable.

2018 speedmaster acrylic or 2018 railmaster in faux-patina?

>>13945084
Courtney is a pure lady with great taste in watches

>>13945113
Railmaster all the way

>>13945112

Inscription on the caseback is the 5th wedding anniversary with his first wife, dating it somewhere in the 70s or earlier. 0925 inscription seems to support my dads claim that its silver. It does look like patina'd silver looks to my eye.. And as said, my dad should know given his former profession. He didn't know what it cost back in it's day, but didn't think it was a very expensive piece..

Any ideas or input about what reference this is would be greatly appreciated!

>>13945125
imagine if they had just bought a rolex and not any of the billion swiss brands back then

>>13945132

Rolex probably would have been far more expensive than this, so unlikely to be a gift from a young wife to her young husband. Also, I don't think the tool watches that are so popular today would have been considered as classy as this watch.

My pictures are a bit crappy, but it's really nice and subtly finished. The crystal has sort of beveled edges which I've not seen done in this way before on a watch.

Am l the only one here that thinks this thing is sexy?

>>13945141
In its own monstrous way, yes.

w2c fake rolex? 100% srs, pls no bully. i know im poor scum

>>13945141
>failed modern Rolex desing experiment.jpg

>>13945141
holly fucking fuck
yes

>>13944313
So... "one" movement made by Seiko that sells at 80k is superior to the entry level Parmigiani, but with a very "minimalist" aesthetic that greatly reduces the need for anglage or any other finishing technique. LOL
It seems to me that Seiko is still losing the battle in true horological sense.

>>13945156
How much do you want to spend? If you can’t spend £300 on something that might break and be worth nothing you’re even too poor for shitters.

>>13945175
around $500 ideally, which is 380 pounds

>>13945156
If you can't afford a real one, find a brand you can afford and lurk for a model that you like.
>>Fuck replicas, hommages, fakes, etc...

Is wearing as much dogshit as you can fit on your wrists based and redpilled or cringe and bluepilled?

>>13945181
i need a rolex tho, dis party i want to go to next month has unwritten rules about neednig to dress well, including watches

Post your shitters

The finishing on "Grand" Seiko movements are below entry-level Swiss finishing. And that's Seiko's "Grand" line. Silkscreen printed movement indications lmao.

>>13945188
fuck off whitey, slandering nippon creations

>>13945179
Ok that’s reasonable. What watch are you after a replica of?

>>13945191

>>13944360
>tag heuer & hublot not uncool
>glashütte original uncool

>>13945188
Stop telling it like it is, you're going to piss off TGV's army and their delusion

>>13945188
what does this mean? and what else is shitty on the GS?
>t. chink, gook and nip hater

>>13945184

>Dress well
>Including watches
>Buying a fake

Kek.

>>13945195
>>13945156
I suggest one like pic related. No cyclops to give you away, and there's less in general to give it away.

>How can the swiss ever beat the chinese or japanese? Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, swiss watches cant touch them. Think if the chinese launched a Huawei type of brand for watches, there would be a new crisis. Example: this 120$ columns wheel chronogtaoh which costs around 1500$ from the swiss

>>13944799

I'll take a bite of your bait. Beat them how and in what way? Why would the Swiss even compete with someone not on their level? It's the Swiss that's being copied and not the reverse. The Swiss are not in the business of selling cheap garbage.

Everyone knows the Chinese are blatant copycats and will outright steal your design in your face without blinking their eyes. They're the king of fast, mass-produced garbage.

It's easy to price your products low when your workers (slaves) are earning less than 1$ a day, you also get massive savings too because you've skipped out having to do research & development because you're producing a stolen design.

Do you think the Swiss can make watches, do r&d, pay their engineers, designers, and employees, run advert campaigns by selling a 120$ watch? There's a lot of factors involved with pricing, it's even just in watches, it's European products vs Chinese products. Cost of living differences, differences in strictness, standards and quality, and after-sales service.

You can have a 120$ watch but don't expect Swiss quality. A Honda vs Porsche automobile. Both takes you from point A to B, why pay so much more for a Porsche?

>>13945179
just get a cocktail time in that price range fake is for fakes

>>13945186

>>13945229
If you think a Seiko compares to a Rolex at a party you’re severely mistaken.

i'm a pleb, want a watch under $500 i like and normies will admire

how horrendous is this?

>>13945233
I bet you're from LA.

>>13945233
Which is pretty sad. An entry GS has better fit, and finish than a Rolex.
And even a cheap cocktail time is going to be much nicer than a fake Rolex.
In the end it's a party. Everyone at it probably can't tell the difference between a blatant Rolex fake, and a real Rolex. Let alone the difference in finishes between a GS and a Rolex. They just see the name, which is exactly why Rolex spends most of their money on marketing.

Here's a cal. 13’’’130 Q, it powers the very first perpetual calendar chronograph, produced in the middle of WW2 and a time where exhibition casebacks weren't a thing and movements were finished because watchmakers took pride in their work. Everyone else is still trying to play catch up with the Swiss.

>>13945049
Not for me, he just wants properly blued hands. My 1963 has painted hands and they look fine to me.

>>13945233

It beats a literal fake though, tbqh..

>>13945227

>all this justification

The Swiss make very nice branded jewelry, at a very nice branded jewelry price point.

>Swiss
>Doing R&D
m8 pls. They basically pride themselves in NOT innovating at all.. The advert campaigns you mention probably take up the bulk of expenses for Swiss watch manufacturers. What do think you're paying for when you drop €8000,- on a stainless steel Submariner? The 50 year old design? The R&D they last did somewhere in the 20th century? The better-than-average quality steel?
>You can have a 120$ watch but don't expect Swiss quality
My wife's daily watch costs half that, and is Swiss. You're just spewing memes to be spewing them m8.

>A Honda vs Porsche automobile. Both takes you from point A to B, why pay so much more for a Porsche?

What are you comparing here though? A Civic and a Carerra, or an NSX and a Macan?

>>13945057
Watch Unique are pretty good, that's where I got mine from & the Seagull-anon that writes huge drunken walls of text used them also.

>>13945233
ofc Its not comparative, but if its all about the brand it must be some really nice bro’s youre hanging around with. Unless they are proper snobs, I’m sure one or two of them also has a cocktail lying around on top of the rolex.

>>13945244
We know Grand Seiko has better finishing.
Rolex doesn’t care. Rolex fanboys don’t care.
It should have the work Rolex in the fucking dial.

I almost feel that the fact that rolex is such a whore brand at this point makes it perfectly acceptable to buy a fake of it. A £400 fake sub is identical to 99.9% of the public.

>>13945222
What model?

>>13945260
The guy literally said he’s going to a party where it’s important that he has a Rolex.
It could be that the situation is that having a Rolex is important to progress his career or social situation and so wasting £6k is a stupid thing to do.
Spend £400 on an incredible fake and get the same effect.
I just hope he’s spending £1000+ on a suit.l and getting it fitted twice.

Here's a cal. 13’’’130 Q, it powers the very first perpetual calendar chronograph, produced in the middle of WW2 and a time where exhibition casebacks weren't a thing and movements were finished because watchmakers took pride in their work. Everyone else is still trying to play catch up with the Swiss.

SARY103
Y/N?

>>13945265
EF-539D-1AV

I wanted the EFS-S540DB-1AUEF but it wasn't available

>>13945184
You sound like a nigger. People with money and real watches can sniff out a fake easily. Don't embarass yourself, just dress nicely, live and showoff within your means.

No one cares about your grand shitters, stop whining so much, it's pathetic
NO ONE CARES OR WILL EVER CARE ABOUT "GRAND" SHITTER

>>13945275
This is false. Rich people don’t care about their watches because they only own the watches because they’re rich to show they’re rich.
You’re talking shit.

>>13945279
>haw haw, americans will never care about those cheap crap japanese cars!

Seiko fanboys don't get brand perception. It doesn't matter if it says Grand before Seiko, the public, subliminally associate the word "Seiko" with cheap, mass-produced watches. Seiko just doesn't scream high-end. Let's be honest, the first thought of someone going into high-end watches isn't "I should get a Grand Seiko".

>>13945253
You're comparing a $150 chink shitter to the Swiss and you have the gall to include the NSX and a Macan in your example lmao.

>>13944805
Almost fell for it but you lost me at replica

>>13945281

Many rich people only care about their watches for the sake of time keeping tbqh.. That's probably in part what made them rich to begin with. The kind of rich people you describe are like those rappers that go bankrupt after a few years because the tax authorities come knocking..

>>13945296

I didn't make the original post about those 2 movements tbqh. I'm just saying your blanket praise of the Swiss is weird, just like a comparison between Honda and Porsche.. There's a lot of Swiss made stuff out there, and a lot of Porsches and Hondas too.

>>13945310
Comparing porsche to honda does not help your case. Honda has a made a couple of cool cars like the original NSX and the s2000, everything else is ricer trash for normies. Meanwhile proshce has made only a couple of uncool cars like the cayenne and panamera.

The top tier honda sans the new NSX is not even close to comparable to a low tier porsche.

>>13945244
What do you own then? Let's see pics

>>13944894
is full ross fa?

>>13945182
Cringe, also what the fuck happened to that crystal?

>>13943193
Thoughts? mtd 1053
Yeah I know about mdv-106, but they are harder to get for me.

>>13945186

>>13945510
It got all scratched up since I'm a labourer and work with my hands unlike the pen-pushers who browse this general.

>>13945510
He is tudorfag, don't reply to him.
He scratched that crystal just for fun to prove to himself acrylic scratches easily.

>>13945530
Fuck off white-collar dogshit.

>>13945230
nigger tier. your wrist is too skinny for that watch

>>13944799
The problem with the Chinese and automatic watches is that the Chinese excel at the race to the bottom where they cheap out on things and hope that the thing they cheaped out on didn't matter. Watch autists live for such details and tend to care about prestige, which China rarely evokes anymore. Just look at the angry reply you got from the other guy making shit analogies. Bicycle autists do something similar and get extremely mad about Chinese carbon fiber.

Also, chink movements suck and always fall apart. I was looking at getting a seagull once but why bother when an orient is just as cheap and way better?

Seiko are barely above Chinese watches, comparing them to Swiss is hilarious
Man the poor sure love to try and hype up their shit tier junk

>>13945673
I really wish there were cheap Swiss watches worth it besides Hamilton and the German watches, because the Japanese watches always looked kind of bland.

>>13945682
Meant European, not Swiss the first time. But really, how can anyone with any self respect the swatch group? On a side note, Stowa is totally underrated as a pick in these threads. They definitely are receptive to it, but when people actually post their watches Seiko is super common.

>>13944761
I love the el Primero, hopefully maybe buying one in the next few months

>>13944522
Did you brush that bracelket yourself?

>>13945235
Tissot is the best cheap brand

It’s fine to have one Tissot when you are young before you have enough to buy a real watch it

is there a less dressy alternative to this in the same price range? I guess something more minimal or "bauhaus" would be preferred. I'm not afraid of branching out from the common seiko stuff etc

Hey /tg/ whats the best semi skeleton?

>>13945741
Not even debatable

New thread:

>>13945757
>>13945757
>>13945757

>>13945688
I like some Stowas, especially that classic 36 posted above, but imo most European watches under $1k are boring and for my money I can get much more interesting Seikos like several of the coctail line, or the Alpinist, or a SARX.
When I've got the disposable cash to get multiple shitters at a time a Stowa is definitely on my pic list though.

>>13945740
There's their sporty line of Seiko 5s for the same price (don't know references). If you just search Seiko 5 you should see hundreds of choices on Amazon.

>>13944689
I bet you think those Chink skeleton watches are amazing.

Educate yourself: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/with-the-seiko-eichi-ii-versus-dufour-and-ferrier

That GS is finished to the exact same level as this Credit Eichi, but with somewhat more simplistic architecture.

>>13945170
The question was if Grand Seiko offers fine movement finishing.
The answer is they do, and the movement finishing shits all over that Parmigiani for the very reason that was stated: the Parmigiani is entry level.

>It seems to me that Seiko is still losing the battle in true horological sense.
Cringed hard.

>>13945170
>that sells at 80k
You mean $50k. Less if you go with the non LE

https://www.maplejewellers.com/product-page/grand-seiko-spring-drive-8-day-sbgd202

>>13945975
Not him but who cares
>seiko
>eichi
No one cares and no one will ever care

>>13943603
dinner plate on a strap.
outrageous faggitry of the highest degree.

>>13944987
dont change a thing. it's perfect as is.

>>13945516
one of my everyday shitters.
wurx gud
bargain price

>>13945184
>Rolex=dressing well
If you'll be surrounded by the type of people who regularly wear high end watches they'll be able to tell you're wearing a fake.

>>13944340
Are sinn watches as good as they say?

>>13946580
compared to a hammy yes but its still just an ETA

>>13943257
They don't look like shit, you just don't like them (nor can afford them), short dick

>>13946250

>>13945230
Is this fake or just a bad picture? I thought the Parnis was 44mm but that looks 47 on your wrist.