/fa/ - Fashion

>>13917310
roll Ur own faggot

Spirits or Turkish Royals

Parliament for try-hards

>>13917310
definitely marlboro. God i miss smoking

>>13917336
rolling is for poorfags, believe me I used to roll

>>13917310
Marlboro is the best

Camel is try hard

Lucky Strike is gay

>>13917310
The most effay way to smoke is to smoke what you like and enjoy it in a way more than just getting a nicotine fix. There’s no best smoke, there’s no most fashionable smoke. Just smoke what you like, enjoy it, and maybe enjoy it in moderation so it doesn’t fucking kill you.

Same goes for fashion, kind of.

>>13917310
reds or spirit yellows

>>13917310

spirit unfiltered

>>13917336
based
>>13917409
cringe

thinking of switching from e-cigs to juul


what's are the pros/cpo

>>13917363
>parliament for tryhards
i smoke spirit yellows, but i can't deny i'll get a pack of parliaments from time to time to shake things up. hardly tryhard, though.
>turkish royals
used to smoke these, they honestly taste like chemicals since i switched. which is a drag, cause i used to really love them.
>>13917409
rolling is both tryhard, poorfag, and gay. but some loose tobacco brands out there are A+, so i don't bat an eye, really. honestly might get back into rolling cause i'm pooor af.
>>13917744
Mac Demarco, please leave

anyways, just smoke what you like and remember that anyone who tells you off for smoking can go fuck themselves and should probably spend their time doing better things than managing other people's addictions. goddamn smoke-free campus; eat my shorts.

>>13917744
fucking this
girls really dig the Mac DeMarco core
besides, those are some good cigarettes too

>>13917497
>Lucky Strike is gay
Why is this?

>>13917310
I've been smoking heavily for two months and desperately want to quit before this becomes a life long problem. I finished my last newport earlier and tucked my juul away. Wish me luck guys.

>what i like is good and what i dont like is gay
lucky strikes have been an /fa/ staple for a long time

>>13917966
>pros
convenient
socially acceptable (if you're under 35)
looks sleek
hits well
>cons
expensive
high nic content makes it super addictive

main thing for me is that juul is so ubiquitous that you won't stand out for using one. other e-cigs / vapes have a weird connotation to them.

it's really best to use them only in times of high stress though and then wait a few weeks before buying your next pack of pods. it's dumb as hell to be addicted to vaping long term.

>>13918055
will they ever have lower nic content JUULs?

>>13918060
gay

>basic tier
Marlboro reds
>good tier
Lucky Strikes
>god tier
Roll your own

I roll Golden Virginia.

>>13917363
spirirts are packed too tight for such good a leaf.

but turkish royals are god tier.

reminder that indians are the highest powered cigarettes

>>13918133
are these any good? I usually smoke southern cut

>>13917310
WOODBINE
OODBINE
ODBINE
DBINE
BINE
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>>13917310
American spirit black are my favorites right now they are aged in whiskey barrels. I sometimes smoke light blues when i dont want something too heavy

How much does a pack of Marlboro red cost in your country? 2$ here

>>13918412
I know it varies by state in USA. When i lived in Pennsylvania it was like $6, but i moved to Hawaii and its It’s like $11 dollars here i

>>13918412
I don't smoke anymore but like probably $30-35AUD for 25 deck

>>13917997
do you know what kind of people smoke lucky strikes?
underrage wannabe hardcore metalfags
construction workers
now, do you want to be associated with these kind of people?
no, I thought so

>>13918252
>good tier
marlboro reds
>shit tier
lucky
>poorfag tryhard
roll
here, I fixed it for you

>god tier
SOBRANIE

>>13917310
>>13917409
smoking in general is for poorfags

ld green slim obviously

>>13918510
not if you smoke weed LOL

1999+19
still falling for the tobacco jew

dunhill blue

>>13918262
Too bad Turkish royals burn down in 2 minutes.

>>13918461
Objectively loose tobacco is multitudes better than the one in pre-rolled cigarettes. It's fresher, better tasting, finer cut, and you see what you're putting in your cigarette, because tobacco companies dump their worst product in pre-rolls.

But I don't expect you to know anything about quality and taste, seeing how you probably smoke just because you started as a teen to look cool and are addicted now. You probably still even hate the taste cigarettes leave in your mouth.

>>13918060
maybe the originals but nothing beats pic related

>>13917310
i've been banned for less, good luck OP., stay safe.

>>13918262
which is why you roll them around between your fingers before you light one up and you don't pull like a sissy and actually inhale like a real person

>>13919149
i've been wanting to try these for a while, can you get them stateside?

>>13917310
snus is the most /fa/ method of nicotine consumption

>>13919343
Not that I’ve seen. Dutchtobacconist.nl is a good place to get European cigarettes but they only have Gauloises

>>13917310
smoking cigs, what are you french?

>>13919349
>literally the pants-on-head retarded cousin of snuff
What the fuck is wrong with you, that you find it acceptable to drool and lisp and spit all over the place, instead of getting some snuff like a normal human? Fucking Swedes ruin everything.

Any alternatives to regular cigarettes that won't kill you in twenty years?

>>13919509
Chewing gum :^)

>>13919509
Special cigarettes that will kill you in ten years.

>>13917310
Fuck cigarettes, who /pipe/ here?

>>13919527

>>13919533
yeah? fuck you nigger.

>>13919509
Snuff.
Pros:
- no proven increased health risk
- nicotine
- anytime, anyplace, even in non-smoking areas
- you look like a cocaine addict

cons:
- you look like a cocaine addict
- black boogers

>>13919527
I smoke pipes, but only at home, because I don't dress like a hobbit in my day-to-day

god tier

>>13919569
Pouched snus is so much better. Authentic steamed products don't contain the carcinogens that burgerland snuff goes, you don't have to fucking snort it, and it'll minimally stain your teeth.

>>13917963
based and rollpilled
marlboro for fags that don't know any brands
Also shilling for British American Tobacco
Rothmans, dunhill et al

if u ever been to japan u kno

>not rolling with the cheapest zware shag you can get

Newports.

Well, Vogue obviously. Also known as the bitch slim.

>>13918029
good luck anon. You can do this. One day at a time.

>>13918082
they sell 3% pods in mint and tobacco

>>13917558
>enjoy fashion in moderation, so it doesn’t fucking kill you

>>13920040
>enjoy fashion in moderation, so you don't look like an outlandish clown
fixed that for you

>>13918558
Based yet Cringe

pyramids my friend

>>13919655
are they actually good or you're just obsessed over japanese symbols?

Probably Parliament recessed filters. Because they want to look like they do cocaine.

>>13917966
Buy Suorin instead of Juul. More flavors and concentration and refills are a fraction of the price. Juuls are made for 15 year olds.

>>13917310
test

>>13918475
my negro. everytime i pass through dubai i gotta get some. New zealand is fucking terrible for cigs

>>13917310
Camel

>>13920242
they are fun because they are really short with a small filter and lots of nicotine.

but yeah feeling like an anime character in the 90s desu desu

>>13918082
In canada they have 3% pods rather than 5% in most flavors (including mango)

Camel whites all the way

>>13917310
Marlboro Red undoubtedly, unless from a certain class especially from European countries in which case the fitting Sobranie

htts://discord.gg/hRH7JA

Thank You for joining!

pall mall reds

>>13917310

>>13923610

>>13923613

treasurers

you aren't poor are you?

Spirits are fucking gay u gotta take like a 30 sec drag for a regular hit, might as well just roll your own if you want all natural and ur paying 10$, some headshops even have small brand all natural cigs for like 3 bucks a pack.
Camel turkish yellow and red are nice and marlboro black or green is cool. also

>>13918459
>underrage wannabe hardcore metalfags
somewhat been there, can confirm

>>13918412
3.75 euros

>>13923615
>>13923613
based and smokepilled

>>13919569
cons:
- will develop a nicotine addiction 10x bigger than cigarettes and you will become a chain smoker instantly you can't get snus.
- look like an idiot.

Also thinking that putting snus in your mouth has no health risk is insane just by terms of common sense.

>>13918412
~$4.5
>>13923864
What are these and where can I get them

Sobranie all the way

>>13920729
this design blows dick though, the entire point of juul was to make it sleek and not as autistic as vapes. The thing you posted looks like a sippy cup or pacifier or something

>>13919569
nicotine still damages you though, lowers testosterone and reduces fertility too (iirc) by itself

>>13917363
spirits are people who only smoke at parties and hold the smoke in their mouth

turkish royals taste like chalk and dirt

real man cigarette coming in

>>13924484
>lowers testosterone
The old men I know who are heavy smokers are masculine as fuck.You actually type like a faggot basedboy who thinks jaywalking on an empty road is living life dangerously

>>13924524
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/
oops nice cope faggot i never denied any of that, i just stated that it lowers test

>>13924529
If you care this much about the amount of male hormones in your body then you're probably already lacking it regardless if you consume nicotine or not. I wish I was fucking gay and lame enough to have such fragile sense of masculinity that I'm paranoid about products that could 'make me less manly'. Yikes

>>13924544
you're the one going out of your way to spit vitriol because i dare mention how it might lower testosterone. I still use nicotine occasionally...oof, yikes sweaty

>>13924552
Because preaching about cigarettes reducing testosterone in a thread discussing cigarette brands is definitely something a man secure of his own masculinity would do. You got me good bud, I hate preachy manginas.

>>13924524
>nigga on pic died of cancer
UNRELATED BUT STILL

>>13924668
yeah at fucking 70, you could die from a cold at that point

>>13924692
I hope we are all dead way before 70 desu

>>13917310
Smoking is not bad for you

All associations of smoking and cancer are the result of non-randomized epidemiological studies, even in animals (hard science, actual experimental studies, with forced tubing to deliver tobacco 24/7, scientists are unable to induce lung cancer with tobacco smoke. In fact tobacco smoke sometimes extended the life spans in low doses and would protect against random induced lung cancer.

Now most will say “i have a relative who died from smoking a pack a day for 45 years”

This is a very biased “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy based arising from flawed anecdotal observation and incomplete information. You do not know if the smoking caused cancer. You see that he smoked and you blame the smoking for causing it.

I’m willing to bet that relative quit before he got cancer. As crazy as it may sound tobacco actually suppresses various cancer growth factors- the majority of smokers who get cancer are those who suddenly stop because these cancer growth factors like IGF-1, which were previously suppressed by the tobacco use, were “uperegulated”.

If you will find the following paper by cross, et al

“Carcinogenic effect of radon daughters, uranium ore dust and cigarette smoke in beagle dogs”

You will see that the tobacco smoke has an anti carcinogenic effects if anything the tobacco use bought that relative more years of life to which you should be thankful.

Tobacco smoke has a myriad of benefits such as anti inflammatory, cognitive enhancing, anti carcinogenic, age extension, and testosterone raising benefits. The opportunity cost of not consuming tobacco far exceeds the dollar cost of buying or rolling a pack of unfiltered cigarettes

Anti inflammatory
“Acute cigarette smoke has a suppressive effect on the number of eosinophils and several inflammatory cytokines, possibly due to the anti inflammatory effect of carbon monoxide”

>>13924884

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1747102/pdf/v059p00713.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10742149

Cognitive enhancing
Tobbaco smoke contains MAOIs,nicotine,Coenzyme Q10, that are known to positively affect cognition

Anti carcinogenic
See the randon dog study

Age extension
Increases telemere length
Uperegulates KLOTHO

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4585559/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16517060?dopt=citation

Raise testosterone + stops estrogen

This is why smoking while pregnant is harmful

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281267/

http://www.hormones.gr/8449/article/cigarette-smoking-has-a-positive-and….html

Hard science does not lie

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9608635

“No statistically significant increases the incidence of malignant lung tumors was seen in either species as a result of smoke exposure, a finding that does not agree with the results of epidemiological studies in humans”

>>13924887
Now some people may say “you can’t smoke and be healthy at the same time”

Well I would point you to roger bannister, if you’re an avid runner you know this man broke the first 4 minute mile and smoked a pack a day

Just look at Jeanne Calment, she lived to be 122 years old, the oldest person to ever live. She cycled and fenced well into her 60s and smoked every day since she was a teen

You might also say “what about the over 7000 deadly chemicals?”

Just listen to what Michael J McFadden author of “dissecting anti smokers brains” and tobakkonacht-the anti smoking end game” has to say

Makaila, I’m not clear on why you feel the extra chemicals are deadly. You do realize that just because something is deadly or innocent in its natural form doesn’t always mean that it’s deadly or natural after undergoing combustion, right?
I think the tobacco industry had to submit a list of what it might add to cigarettes and the list was of 599 additives. Some of those would be for flavoring, some as preservatives, some to hold moisture so if a pack was open for several days or more in low humidity the tobacco wouldn’t dry out, some to make the tobacco burn slower or fast or hotter or cooler for various reasons, some perhaps in an attempt to make the smoke “safer” according to whatever theories there were about what was safer or more dangerous, etc.
When some tobacco companies tried marketing “All Natural” cigarettes the federal government jumped on them and told them they had to explicitly state that “No Additives Does NOT Mean A Safer Cigarette.”
Well, if you believe the federal government then the inverse of that is unavoidable: I.E. “Additives Do Not Mean A More Dangerous Cigarette.”
So there you have it straight from the U.S. Government…
… the same folks who’ll tell you that secondhand smoke is deadlier than first hand smoke and that thirdhand smoke will make you grow an extra head or some such.

>>13924890
The studies that have been done have never found any significant differences between brands other than varying degrees of nicotine, carbon monoxide, and solid particulates (which they call “tar” to make it sound nasty). And again we have the Government, which used to demand the tobacco companies list those levels so consumers could choose safer cigarettes, now forbidding the tobacco companies from listing those levels because then consumers might think that smoking a super ultralight with 1mg “tar” might somehow be safer than smoking a Super CamelLuckyChesterfield Non Filter with 20mg “tar.”
Generally you can count on smoking more than occasionally or very lightly not being a good idea for your overall health, and on secondhand, thirdhand, or fourthhand smoke being pretty much inconsequential unless you’re boxed up in an airtight humidor with a chain smoker for a few decades. At this point it’s difficult even to say that regular high levels of secondary exposure in a smoking workplace for 40 years has any real effect on anyone without specific allergic-asthma or (perhaps) the one in ten-thousand or so with Alpha-Antitrypsin Deficiency.
Now… with all that as background, I’ll refer you to a site where people disagree with me on this general point of additives being fairly unimportant: Fauxbacco where you’ll see the argument made that “natural” tobacco is either much safer than commercial cigarettes or even completely safe. I don’t agree with them overall, but they do have at least some points, and they certainly make more sense than the self-contradictory federal government or the wackier antismoking organizations.

>>13924524
Are you trying to say Bowie was masculine? He was literally the living epitome of a faggot

>>13924892
Here is some more literature and information on the subject
https://www.amazon.com/Dissecting-Antismokers-Brains-Michael-McFadden/dp/0974497908
https://www.amazon.com/Tobakkonacht-Antismoking-Endgame-Michael-McFadden/dp/0974497916
http://wispofsmoke.net
https://youtu.be/lVmYV8v8hpA

>>13917744
>>13917980
they're finished in like 2 drags you can't even taste them
best Canadian cigs are objectively rothmans specials, camels and gauloise or whatever its called in your anglo shithole

Smoking is gay

>>13917310
pueblo

>>13924884
>>13924887
>>13924890
>>13924892
>>13924972

t. big tobacco

jesus fuck why are you here shilling about tobacco, in the thread actually for people who smoke already

this is why the internet gets worse every passing second

>>13919473
are you actually retarded? snus is the most operator of tobaccos because you don't have to spit.

Winnie blues cuuuuuuuunt

>>13917966
Super simple compared to vapes.

You don't have to add juice worry about priming it up, cottons, things over heating etc.
Legit just pick it up and breath.
It's also really nice that it's popular, so there are a bunch of 3rd party Pods.

The way it charges is stupid though.

>>13924512
This, but I smoke the filtered red one.

>>13924529
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24457405/
Oopsie woopsie, beta faget.

>>13924512
Lucky Strikes are absolutely heavenly, god bless British American

>>13922276

>>13917310
chewing gum cause it costs less and doesn't make your teeth look fugly and smell awful, costs less too

What’s the most effay zippo?

>>13924902
>implying you cant be both masculine and a faggot

will never make it

>>13925746
based canadian
i smoke camel blues or golds

>>13926312
Hardly shilling. I guess you’ve never actually researched anything yourself and are perfectly content to watching commercials that tell you what to do think and say without question

Gudang Garam International

>>13926590
Gold or silver plated, all other's can burn in hell

Cigarettes are for people 40+ and third-worlders.

>>13917409
Rolling is comfy. Makes the ritual nicer. Also untreated rolling tabacco has not the 400 added chem ingredients to make cigs tastier and more addictive, like the regular cigs.

>>13927557
Pic related

>>13924037
No idea I found it online, it's a real cigarette brand though

>>13918412
Cheapest I ever saw was in Guinea Bissau for 75 cents a pack. Didnt have any nasty images or text either, just the pure red and white Marlboro design... Made me start smoking at the time just cause it was so cheap but now back home I had to stop doing it again.
Costs like 6 euro by now for a pack.

Best I ever had.

>>13918412
7€ = 8 usd, finland

>>13927991
T R Y H A R D

>>13926992
I don't give a shit personally about it, and if I did I wouldn't get my info from that shill

the way all of that information was posted is just like the fucks on plebbit post walls of text that seem trustworthy but generally stops people from looking into it more

it's easy to just believe that someone was "nice" and posted all of that counter information after they scoured the internet for it. But take it one step further and think about who benefits from those posts

unreliable narrators aren't just a literary trope anon

>>13925749

It's what all the mad hip Chinese kids smoke (probably, I don't know any Chinese kids, I just bought them off of a guy on WeChat).

>its another 'cigarette livery banned from racing cars, one of the many things that resulted in the pussification of motorsport' episode

>>13928176
I post it’s because it automatically stops any further arguments from progressing about whether smoking is bad.

Also posting links about studies doesn't make you a shill. Hell I could care less about if someone smokes or not but I’ll be damned if they belive the lies they’ve been spoon fed and then act as if their superior for buying into those lies

>>13917409
>rolling is for poorfags, believe me I used to roll
Poorfags roll because you can get dirt cheap tobacco, but rolling isn't exlusively for poorfags. You can get higher quality tobacco and papers than you'll find in any factory rolled cigarette and the papers are free of the chemicals that make factory rolled cigarettes taste like shit and give you a headache.

>>13928578
Tell me about it

>>13918133
This was my brand.

>>13928614
>I post it’s because it automatically stops any further arguments from progressing about whether smoking is bad.

if you had a post closer to OP I'd believe that more, but whatever. I also didn't really see any arguments about whether it was bad, just some shit about testosterone (weirdly a lot of dudes always worried about that)

>Also posting links about studies doesn't make you a shill.

I didn't say posting links about studies makes you a shill, I said the entire way it was posted led me to believe it was from a shill

>Hell I could care less about if someone smokes or not but I’ll be damned if they belive the lies they’ve been spoon fed and then act as if their superior for buying into those lies

I don't care about that either.

reminds me of my cousin, always smoking joints but vaping and cigarettes are terrible apparently

carry on the crusade I guess anon.

>>13919678
get the fuck outta here Bepis

>>13920729
>>13924482
this

suorin looks retarded as hell

its a shame since i'd save a boatload compared to juul

Blacks clovers

>>13919140
not the same guy, but i started smoking because i was really stressed from work and it helped me get to sleep. At first I just smoked menthols but then moved to marlboro reds and really liked them for a while, then my friend turned me onto camel turkish royals instead and havent look back. I really like the taste just about every time I smoke.

>>13918412
£11 in the UK

Obviously

>>13929064
stop reddit posting you massive dickhead

>>13919533
KEK

>>13919149
LOL when I was a young boy in the 90s, I did an internship in a big car garage and the boss used to smoke these. He was a nazi but funny. Told me to cut the old cardboard boxes. He used to stand there with a gitanes in his mouth, cutting up cardboard saying: " You just gotta imagine the cardboard are the throats of Jews. If you don't put enough power into your knife, you won't be able to finish them off."

>>13918252
golden virginia is trash
the cig goes out in 2 secs, tobacco too humid, shit for rolling joints, which is like 1/2 of rolling tobacco use

>>13917966
This is the correct answer in todays climate, but instead of nicotine, replace the pods with CBD pods and enjoy the perfect vape god intended.

>>13924884
>anti-inflammatory
My tongue and cheeks swell for a week straight whenever I try to start smoking again. I miss smoking but it makes me so sick

>>13919593
my nigga!

>>13917310
gay as fuck

buy the cheapest trash u can find andsmoke constantly at a doof

or ryo, park drive

poser thread for suburbanite dorks

>>13931458
the fuck? people have been posting like that on 4chan way before reddit was a thing
whatever, i'm out anyway

oh and for the thread: marlboro reds when I feel like smoking

A gentleman uses snuff.

>>13919655
only correct answer so far in the thread
second runner up is pic related

>>13931964
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