/fa/ - Fashion

First for having high standards.

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ARE WE BACK???

Just ordered a bunch of new seconds hands. One of them should be close enough to the one that turned out cracked on this pretty good looking early quartz Seiko.

>>13728472
Noted

>>13728480

We're back.

Did gookmoot add more ways to take our information or what

Just bought this for new more formal job. It's my first watch of any decent quality. I like the styling, and it keeps great time, but it's SO fucking loud. I've owned plenty of shitter automatics and none of them have had ticking or rotor noise this loud. It's got an Omega Caliber 2500. Does anyone know if this movement is notorious for noise? Do I have a defective one? Is this some stupid meme where the higher quality a movement is, the louder it gets, because of status or whatever??

>>13728513
>cuck-axial cal. 2500

Yes or no?
Best place to find one second hand in pristine quality from a reputable source IF possible (don't know anything about buying expensive second hand watches)

>>13728520
i-is it bad? i read up about it and it seemed to be a good technology! is the co-axial nature of the movement the reason for the noise?

it hasn't lost or gained a second in the 2 weeks i've owned it, so that's good at least

What casio do I cop?

>>13728513
> Is this some stupid meme where the higher quality a movement is, the louder it gets
Well not a meme exactly but a brand new high end movement will be louder than the shitters you're use to. However it should settle down after a while after it settles in and you'll stop noticing. Similar to how the +/- spd take a bit to stabilize.

>>13728544
If you want to impress people and pickup girls then get the one that says Rolex. If you want to be laughed at and rejected then get the one that says Casio.

>>13728572
25 year old BOOMER thinks everyone can afford a Rolex.

>>13728544
The first you find in the bin.

>>13728536
Yes It’s beautiful.

>>13728594
Have some self respect and don't buy ugly shitters

how much is too much to pay for those 80s Seiko quartz divers?

you know the ones that look similar to the skx007/009 but are quartz?

are there any modern ones ?

>>13728544
A500WGA

I was looking for a white/white-ish dial field watch and these two interested me. I was leaning towards the left one but the more I look it, the more I dislike how the numbers are cut off.

>>13728544
>>13728688
i like the "gold"-black better. the contrast makes it look much more "classy" BUT in general i dont like the "fake gold" color because its just too obvious that is not gold , i would go with stainless or even the black platic.

>>13728572
if a "normal" girl can identify a rolex without looking close and reading the brand, shes just probably a golddigger anyways....

>>13728544
the silver one from urban outfitters

>>13728654
Boobies day! :D
Those Japs are way ahead of us.

>>13728544
With that watch you'll look like Flava Flav or Lil Wayne.

What’s a quality brand with good cred but isn’t as basic as Rolex?

>not as expensive as Patek
>not grand seiko
>maybe not tag or omega

Hublot? I think this is expensive af

>>13728845
Zenith
Omega
Glashutte Original
Cartier
JLC

>>13728876
Is Tag ok? Or is omega better?

What about Breitling, IWC or Bell and Ross?

I think my price range is like omega or tag, new Rolex would probably be too much

>>13728899
>What about Breitling, IWC or Bell and Ross?
Not him, but it's all overpriced pleb bait.

looking for a <$400 39mm-ish flieger?

any recommendations? I've seen the maratac mid pilot but can't seem to find anywhere to actually buy it.

also are there any quartz flieger in a smaller size?

>>13728899
I have a tag and an omega and I think omega has better quality but i like my tag better desu
IWC is super nice, especially the flieger ones. the other ones i dont rly like

>>13728899
>>13728901
Pretty much what he said. Omega is decent though. The suicide movements have been developed to not kill themselves anymore.
IWC is actually good as well.

Give us more details about style and price and we can find alternatives. Ideally say you like x watch as well to give us something visual to go off of.
>>13728916

>>13728916
>>13728932
Stowa, and Laco

>>13728876
Sinn as well

>>13728901
What would you recommend?

>>13728925
Is IWC more expensive?

Also how does these brands hold their value? Is it really only more expensive brands like Rolex that appreciate in value or can some omegas etc appreciate too?

>>13728654
New Seiko quartz divers are like $300

>>13728932
Pic related is the last watch I bought

I’m not really a fan of overly complicated, clunky, thick watches. I hate watches with metal bands. I prefer more simple, elegant watches that aren’t too heavy.

I have a seiko dress watch as well, so not a dress watch. But I guess something a bit different to the tissot I have as well.

I don’t mind leather/nato/cloth straps

>>13728947
Don't really think about getting watches in terms of which will appreciate in value. You have very little chance of being right (lawyeranon will say this too). If I had several kilobucks for a watch I'd get a snowflake to be honest. The manufactures posted here are worth researching into >>13728876

Past that I'd look at independents like FP Journe or ALS.

how would one of these 48mm divers look on a 6.25 wrist?

the look has really been growing on me lately. lug to lug is supposedly just under 47mm

>>13728962
I don’t plan on selling it, but at least someotbat will hold at least most of its value

I think the omega seamaster 300 looks pretty nice with a leather strap

>>13728982
>small dinner plate on a skeleton.jpg

>>13728987
Something that* kek

>>13728987
I don't see a seamaster 300 losing more than a normal amount of it's value. It's not a tag formula 1 or anything.

>>13728998
What’s a normal amount of value to lose?

How much would that tag lose?

>>13729005
The old formula ones are basically worthless. As for a normal amount of value lost, just look at how much those seamasters go for used to get an idea.

>>13728959
Good news, straps are cheap and easy to change. So that's not an issue.
>>13728982
Go try one on. They are at almost ever local watch store here.

>>13728982
My wrists are 6.5 and 42 is pushing it

>>13728962
>independents like ALS

>>13729042
Meant to separate the two, as in independents or ALS.

>>13728982

That's the thing about tool watches, just wear what you like! Lug to lug is most important anyways, I say try it on if you can but don't be shy to commit knowing it will look big at first but you will get used to it!

>>13728536
No other opinions on this?
Especially about the reputable or best way to buy a second hand non counterfeit watch

>>13729207
No, It’s beautiful.

>>13729207
Explain.

>>13728939

<400 retard

>>13729213
It really is

>>13729214
I don't know anything about buying one used in great condition. I keep hearing about chrono 24 but I have no experience with it. I'm considering just buying it new but you guys would know about buying from places where you wont get robbed

>>13729244
Let me guess your only pretending to be retarded or is $10 too much more?
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Laco_Legendary_German_Pilot_Watches_s/1826.htm
Also second hand is an option and cheaper again.

>>13729244
Also
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Aristo_German_Made_Watches_s/1819.htm
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Messerschmitt_German_Pilot_Watches_s/1831.htm

>>13729256
>oris
ummm sweetie just buy a steinhart ocean one for 600 and dont spend the 2k on that shit
steinhart is just as good as oris

If you dudes are all about horology heritage and vintage brand respect

Then why isn't a timex mechanical watch your Grail?

>>13728845
Omega
Rolex
Patek
A. Lange & Sohne
Grand Seiko

Anything else is a shitter.

>>13729297
Isn’t Rolex kind of pleb though

It’s such an obvious choice it’s like even if they’re great watches why not choose something different instead of being so basic, it’s kinda boring if you know what I mean

WOW I didn't know F P Journe was a shitter

>>13729288
FYI steinshart is nowhere near the quality of Oris, too many details and QC issues with steinshart

>>13728949
examples? I only seem to see automatics

>>13729288
That is one fucked up alignment

>>13728845
Zenith
Cartier
IWC
These are all watch snob brands though

>>13729395
>>13729363
fuck you

>>13729347
They're popular and overpriced, but not pleb. There is no such thing as too much name recognition.

>>13729405
Well look at it.
You’re straighter than that watch.

>>13729401
Zenith seem pretty cool but I haven’t heard of them before

Blancpain also seems good but probably too expensive

I think Omega is the best so far for me

this thread needs more Nomos

>>13729291
disposable movements don't really make for good vintage timepieces

>>13729297
You forgot JLC.

>>13729256
Don't buy from India

>>13729544
He forgot dufour too

If watches were car brands what would they be?

Rolex: Porsche
Casio: Toyota
Seiko: Honda
Patek: Bugatti
Hublot: Pagani
Omega: Mercedes
Tag: BMW
Timex: Chrysler
Tissot: Renault

What else?

>>13729566
True, but no one here will ever touch one. Even lawyeranon.
JLC is at least obtainable.

>>13729569
>Tag: Audi
>Omega: BMW

>>13729569
Rolex would be more like land rover. Starts off as utilitarian but becomes meme luxury shit.

>>13729571
>True, but no one here will ever touch one
What? I've tried on a duality, even though I'll probably never own one.

>>13729571
Doesn't make it a shitter though.

>>13729579
No one in this thread is ever going to own one, you know what I meant.
Also, who the fuck let you try one one?
>>13729580
What?

>>13729591
He said everything not on that little list is a shitter.

>>13729591
I think it was at a Phillips auction preview. They have lots of cool stuff at auctions to look at and try on - minute repeaters, old Omega prototypes, that steel 1518 that sold for a bunch of money, Paul Newman's Daytona, etc.

>>13729592
Right, and it was a crap list.
As stated Dufour and JLC aren't on the list and aren't shitters.
>>13729601
That's pretty rad.
And you just go in? No proof of intent to buy or being even near legit enough to buy?

>>13729569
Rolex = Mercedes obviously (it even have mercedes hour hand)
Omega = Porsche
Patek = Rolls Roys
Lange = Bughatti
VC = Lamborgini
AP = Ferrari
JLC = Aston Martin (bit of an underdog but just as good as the big boys)

>>13729347
Rolex makes great watches, the only downside is that they overprice their products along with their vast reputation. And the fact that it's the obvious nouveau riche choice makes it a bit less desirable for me personally.

>>13729615
Yes? I guess I don't dress like trash, but the most important thing is showing interest and knowledge in watches. I always have one or two pieces I specifically want to see from the auction listing that I ask to see first, and then browse and maybe look at a few more. The auction houses don't care, they're happy to show whatever.

>>13729617
Much better list.
>GS: Acura (but only the stupid high end)

>>13729629
Wow, never checked one out. I've been to a few estate auctions, scored some good vintage pieces.

>>13729569
What’s the chevy sonic of watches?

I remember this anon who said that watch boutiques would not let him inside their doors, lmao. I wonder how he dressed and what he looked like.

>>13729640
Hamilton

>>13729630
Forgot about GS, but yeah agreed.

>>13729630
>>13729651
Only problem is, most of their watches aren't that high end. Most is a little bit more down to earth.

The name is Bond, Jaime Bond.

>>13729628
>And the fact that it's the obvious nouveau riche choice makes it a bit less desirable for me personally

It’s just this, it kind of ruins it because it’s so well known and associated with money, most people would assume you bought it because you want to flaunt instead of just wanting to buy a nice watch that you can appreciate

>>13729628
>>13729716
I think this is more true for younger generations. Boomers see Rolex as a well made watch that is worth every penny.

>>13728544
ae1200something

>>13729744
Let's see what I think when I turn 40-50 then.

>>13729744
I’m a 24 year old boomer

>>13729761

>>13728544
See
>>13729691

What are the pros and cons of having the crown at the 4 o clock position instead of at 3 o clock? Is it just an autistic Seiko shitter rule?

>>13729799
More out of the way, less likely to hit it or incidentally mess with it. Also I like the aesthetic on some watches.

>>13729799
Having it at the 4 o clock is more of a tool watch thing, to keep the crown from getting stuck on fabric and what not. Like a cheap crown guard.

>>13728544

>>13729840
That looks like a guys fat pimply arse

>>13729852

>>13729852
It was the joociest pussy ever posted

>>13729863
>>13729875
With the censorship it looks like a guys flat pimply shaved arse

Thoughts on Vincero?

>>13729950
shitter

>>13729617
>Omega = BMW

ftfy

>>13729950
I would rather shit in my hands and clap than be forced to wear that cancer for one entire day

>>13729967
i really want to love omega, but i think they're overpriced for what you get. some of the speedy ltd editions like the recent hodinkee one are genuinely beautiful, but nearly 7k for a chrono design that's been around for 60+ years is highway robbery

>>13729981
>overpriced

Not really. Cheaper than Rolex but with better, more sophisticated movements, and an arguably better image. They're expensive not overpriced.

The only cheaper alternative of a decent Swiss watch is Tag.

>>13729981
Their base model non special editions are all pretty decent, their observatory chronometers and their stupid high magnetic resistance watches are worth it too.
Along your line of thought AP, and PP are shit now that they fund themselves via retard nigga rappers even though year after year they put out near perfect watches.

>>13729997
AP is objectively nearing shit status though, it's almost embarrassing the people who wear them nowadays

>>13729994
Tudor charges around $4K for their new GMT, which is about as much as i'd pay for a speedy or seamaster. couldn't care less about co-axial desu

>>13729997
>AP
never been good. overhyped. royal oak is riding another ancient design and the ROO is borderline bling bling like richare mille or hublot
>PP
i can still live with them, they can really do no wrong

>>13730004
Tudor brand is a joke compared to Omega, let's be honest here.

>don't care about the movement

What do you care about then?

>>13730006
Omega has been a joke for a while now. I'm surprised they've lasted this long. I care about quality and price, and even Tudor is pushing it with almost all their models. IWC and Sinn are perhaps the only brands that aren't charging a kidney for a decent, recognizable timepiece.

>>13730001
Ignore the people funding the more impressive shit. Just as you managed to ignore how PP is as bad.
>>13730004
AP and PP are as bad as each other. Neither has the high ground in this discussion. They both use the same model to make money while doing actual fun shit with other watches. Gross shit pic related. AP has watches as good as all the others in the holy trinity, the only one that has kept it's faith is the one most forget, which is kind of ironic.

>done no wrong
>Hublot big bang tier shit

>>13730014
What are you talking about they are the way better than AP

>>13730012
i'd argue the difference between AP and PP is that PP can still make a beautiful watch, in fact many different models of beautiful watches while still slanging the turd models to rappers and chinese. AP has perhaps ONE good looking watch out at the moment

>>13730019
The reisssue RO Jumbo is timeless, but AP have as much current good shit and bad shit as the nautilus and copies company does.

>>13730024
you have to be absolutely mental if you think any of those watches are notable, perhaps with the exception of the grande complication.

>>13730019
And I would also argue that one of the two is still pushing boundaries of matchmaking and it isn't the large gold with diamonds rapper watch company
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/audemars-piguet-rd2-royal-oak-perpetual-calendar-ultra-thin-hands-on
>>13730025
Supersonneriethat is pushing the boundaries of the repeater complication is nothing? kek unironically neck yourself.

>>13730027
>AP is pushing boundaries of watchmaking
>posts a concept watch that'll never come out

>>13730031
>hnnngggggggg how to breath and walk
Alright, we are done here, you couldn't find your own ass with both hands and a flashlight.

>>13730027
>repeater
yeah that'll be nice, sure glad AP is pushing those boundaries. maybe they can get get someone to dust off another ancient and unnecessary complication. here's a company that are really pushing boundaries, you've probably never heard of them because your head is so far up AP's arsehole

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/urwerk-amc-movement-introducing

>>13730035
No I have heard of that and discussed it when it was first announced back when we were on /g/ I could dredge up that archived thread if you want a read. The latest news articles I could see about PP are that they put large lumed numerals on a watch face for the first time in forever and that a rapper said their name in a song. Meanwhile AP puts out the thinnest automatic perpetual calendar ever made. Man your initial statement that AP is shit or that PP is better than AP (whichever one was you) is so on point, massive truthies like that shouldn't be unleashed so casually.
At least AP puts their rapper money to good use unlike the other...

Got some pretty fancy service jobs right now. First a 14k gold men's automatic Movado from the 70's. It uses a very early ETA 2824. So far it probably has a broken mainspring.

>>13730048
Second one is this women's hi-beat Seiko 2205. I admit this tiny beast is kinda scary, I've asked more for the service job for this one than the Movado. So far the rotor ball bearing and rotor screw are kinda suspicious, one of the two might be fucked.

>>13728513
My 2500 isn't loud, I can't hear it unless I put the watch right up to my ear.

>>13728899
>Is Tag ok?
No, fucking kill yourself for even considering such a shitter.

>>13729499
Agreed

Are flieger watches the IPA of the watch world?

>>13730077
Probably just mechanical watches in general 2bh

>>13730067
>that rounded date window
>hands too big for the dial
>applied logos and indices make it look fat and gaudy
>ceramic bezel looks like it's coated in vaseline
>boring black version

I hate that era Seamaster so much.

>>13728899
>Is Tag ok?
I bought a Carrera and I regret it every day

>Or is omega better?
So far better it's not even funny

>>13730097
Damn

>>13729950
These internet born brands = avoid. For a similar price you can buy a brand name watch from a reputable company. Look for similar pieces from Seiko, Citizen, Tissot, etc. All of these brands aren't shitters, don't listen to autists with 5 digit incomes, they're literal fags.

recommend me a field/military watch

dont really care for the mechanical meme so preferably quartz and > $400?

even though I have 6.25inch wrist. I'm finding pic related a bit small for my liking. iirc it's like 36.5mm

why are leather watch straps so expensive? pic related is $89 and I generally see other ones around $50-60 mark.

are those meme prices or am I just looking in the wrong places? where do you guys get your leather straps from?

>>13730114
Thanks for advice

I’m not disagreeing just curious as to why you regret buying the carrera and how omega is way better

>>13730160
It's not junk, it's just not special in any way. I was too cheap to buy a real Carrera (Chronograph version), so I got the 3-hander. I just think it's a boring watch.

Omega simply make better watches, better movements, better finish, better bracelets, and so on.

Is this normal or I'm being retarded?

>>13730102
Th..thanks.

Wrist check twats! G-Shock today in España.
>>13730214
That's far too tight you silly cunt.

normally I don't like black case watches nor do I like gold watches but man there is something about this that i am really liking for some reason.

if I were to get it what would even be your options for an aftermarket bracelet?

>>13729997
>their observatory chronometers
What.

>>13730007
>IWC
>Kilobucks for a sellita

>>13730007
>IWC
Make up your mind is it goog or not?
I always get shit and overpriced garbage when I bring IWC up.

>>13730245
Both Isofrane-style and Bond nato would work well as replacement straps.

As for bracelets, some people put an Engineer-style bracelet on their Tunas, Baby-Tunas and Monsters, but personally I never liked that combination.

>>13730155
Hirsch is pretty great

>>13729499
I bought an automatic Tissot several years ago, using the powermatic80 movement. It keeps time with an average of +5 seconds a day on average which is within COSC chronometer standards, but it's not a certified chronometer. Am I lucky or are superlative chronometers officially certified a meme?

>>13730426
"Chronometer" doesn't just mean "runs -4/+6 on the wrist"

just got a basic bitch watch costed me £30.

Have had a few compliments on it though.

I don't know how the fuck people function in their day to day lives without wearing a watch.

>>13730006
>Tudor brand is a joke compared to Omega, let's be honest here.
shit taste

Good morning wt

>>13730439
Rolex and Tudor make THE best commercially produced cases. and the movement are great (as long as you don't fall for the modular complications). their styling, however, can be a bit stuffy

Omega, on the other hand, is more adventurous with their movements, complications, and styling. just don't fall for their 'limited editions'

>>13730007
>IWC
>recognizable anything
No one gives a shit about IWC

>>13730464

>>13730431
Sorry for being a shitter but wtf does your excel spreadsheet even mean?

>>13730478
A chronometer is a watch that passes the criteria in iso3159. It is a 15 day test in five positions and three temperatures. The watches have to pass criteria in average daily rate, max deviation in a single position, max deviation between any positions, deviation between dial up and dial down, temperature variance, and rate stability between the start and end of the test. That spreadsheet is the results from the iso3159 testing I did on my collection last year.

>>13730450
New watch?

>>13730488
Yep. My second marine chronometer, since the first had to go back. Sadly this one appears to be running about +5spd and so may go back as well. I've not had good luck with megahertz quartz watches.

>>13729288
>Swineshart

>>13728451
Is there anything wrong with winding your watch before it dies?

>>13730490
Looks cool.

>>13730600
No

Is my gift stop a trustworthy seller ?
The discount on this seiko ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01MZB6TE0/ref=dp_olp_new_center?ie=UTF8&condition=new ) seems too good to be true, the model number is not exactly right it should be SNE441P1 i'm not sure if this is a red flag.
The discounts on they site are also too good to be true.

a e s t h e t i c

>>13730464
*raises paw*
I think they’re beautiful and they made be interesting in this nonsense.

>>13730808
This one is pretty cool.

>>13730813
Its a hidden gem. I predict it will be worth a ton sometime.

>>13730822
Where can we buy it now? Does it come with different colored dial?

>>13730808
Huh, for whatever reason the black dial version is about half the price for a brand new model.

>>13730833
MTF-117BD-9AVDF Casio Wristwatch

>>13730851
Is amazon the only place to buy it? Is it not in current casio stores or other stores?

>>13730859
Ebay?

>>13730862
I thought it was a current model that you could buy anywhere.

What am I supposed to think about the Seagull 1963? I really like the look of it.

>>13730808
>>13730847
Size of case:47×39.5×9.9mm
Do you think the case is 47 including those lugs, or do you think it is 47 without those lugs?

Hey /fa/, /g/entooman here. Not too familiar with watches, just a passing interest.
Is there a comparable alternative to the SARB033? I'm in love with the styling of this watch, and the dimensions seem really elegant to me, coming from a thicc SRPA97.
It's 38.4mm wide and 11.2mm thick.
Given that the SARB is getting scalped, I'd like to find something as close to it as possible. It's just so goddamn sexy.

>2018
>not having a Shogun

>>13730873
It's the one thing the Chinaman has to be proud of his country... even though the movement is Swiss designed and made in China using Swiss machinery.

>>13730916
How about getting the SARX035 - the same watch with better quality finish?

>>13730923
That's an original design, I've never seen it before.

>>13730916

>>13730932

>>13730931
I dunno about that man, the SARB is going for about 500ish, but the SARX are going for 700+.

>>13730951
What an I looking at here, Anon?

>>13731002
Yes, it is a few hundreds more expensive because the finishing is much better.

>>13729569
Breitling would be whatever douche bags drive

My watch is made of wood, looks great on wrist and cost less than $50. My father wears a datejust, and i must say its a beautiful watch but i can justify paying 5000-10000 for something that holds time a little better than my $50 wooden watch... Sure i can swim with it on... What else though?

>>13730956

>>13731056
Please just be bait

>>13731097
Im dead serious, if you dont have atleast 6 figures in the bank, you jave no business owning an expensive sports/dress watch... Own a status symbol, have no status lul

>>13731129
I own an Omega and am a college student. Watches shouldn't have to have anything to do with how much you have in your bank account. I know multimillionaires that don't wear them and I know mechanics who own Rolex.

>>13731133
Unfortunately whether you like it or not, a watch like a rolex is a status symbol and when you wear one people look at you differantly. If youre poor and have a rolex people will think/know youre trying to project wealth or success. Just facts.

>>13731137
Imagine being this concerned

>>13731138
Its not a matter of concern.

>>13731137
I'll buy a Rolex because they're great watches. I really don't care how people interpret my purchase.

>>13731145
Well i can repect that

>>13731145
Just stating what seems to be a common consensus among the critical.

Those Alpina watches are a meme Kickstarter brand right?

>>13731137
Non-watch people (like 95% of the population) don't look at your watch and can't tell at a glance whether you're wearing a Rolex or not. And then they have no idea how much a Rolex costs oder than that it's expensive. And then they couldn't tell a real one and fake apart.

>>13731152
Among the critical what? Idiots like yourself?

>>13731137
There are plenty of brands which aren't Rolex and are as or (much) more expensive.

What's your opinion on this white dial flieger?

>>13731170
Nice projecting bud, triggered much?

>>13731192
The wealthy people I know either wear a Apple watch, Fitbit, or cheap Seiko. They don't need status symbols to project their wealth.
That aside, what did you mean by among the critical then?

>>13731180
>IWC FLYGAR

What more need I say? Fucking awesome.

>>13731175
Right, and only people of class will recognise these peices. Rolex is a household name that most people have heard of. If you got one most people in the room know.

>>13731169
Honestly this. Regular people literally only recognize the submariner, and with that being said, they wouldn't be able to differentiate a rolex and an invicta.

>>13731199
this, horology is an old man's hobby

>>13731199
Im saying people will be critical of your decision of buying a $10000 watch when you rent a 2 2 with $1000/mo rent and drive a corolla.

>>13731200
I meant more that it's white.

The thing is that I already have a black dial brown hands/strap Hamilton Khaki which I love and I don't want to get another watch that's that similar. But I do love these IWC pilots and I can actually afford one now. So now I dunno what to do.

>>13731199
And the "critical" people will be from any demographic to be honest. Its the same logic when you see a hoodlum wearing a president. You assume its fake, or they spent their whole life on it.

>>13731208
Buying an expensive watch is much less likely to be a bad financial decision than a house or a car... simply because banks don't usually give you easy loans for them like they do for cars and houses.

>>13731221
They arent bad investments. I agree, its just hard to understand prioritizing a rolex over a nice house or a car that runs well..

Recommend me your favorite seiko shitter

>>13731199
> The wealthy people I know either wear a Apple watch, Fitbit
This is true. I know many multi-millionaires, even a few that are nearly billionaires and this is a recent trend.

> or cheap Seiko
No. Not a single one I know wears or owns a Seiko

The main reason I've been told is that they don't want to be seen in public displaying their wealth as it's really looked down upon these days. Mainly by social media if their pictures are taken. However in private or with friends they still wear whatever they like.

>>13731224
SARX###

>>13731224
I prefer timex to seiko

>>13731223
>house
Literally just a place to sleep and keep food
>car
Literally just gets me from point a to b

>>13731129
>>13731137
>>13731208
This, this, and This.

I agree.
But people ITT won't hear it because they are relatively poor people who are saving up for their Rolex. Some in this thread have great jobs with enough income to justify it tho, and some have rich parents, but there are plenty of fools who are saving up for their Rolex, and they will tell you (and more importantly themselves) that it's perfectly fine to be a poor sob wearing a Rolex, and they will give you lots of arguments and they will never acknowledge that people WILL ultimately see them as fools.

>>13731234
See, this guy gets it

*sweatingretriever.gif*

>>13731234
>people WILL ultimately see them as fools.
Imagine being this concerned

>>13731223
What I meant was that, say, if a young guy buys an expensive car, it's not only usually a bad financial decision at the moment, it will drag out because of the lease payments, maintenance costs, amortisation etc. An expensive watch might be a little silly but at least it doesn't cost you any more afterwards and you can always sell it for a decent amount.

That being said, I had 20k+ savings ever since I was like 20 and I couldn't justify to myself paying more than 500 for a watch. But I would understand if you do want to spend your savings on it.

>>13731243
See what you fail to recognise is no one is concerned, we are simply stating the realities of owning a nice watch and being poor. You just look dumb to everyone, rich or poor.

>>13731227
Explain.

>>13731244
Heard. I swe the logic, and i can be on board with that

>>13731243
This is one of your standard arguments.
The "I don't give a damn about what people in my life or in my society think of a guy like me"

Sounds very nice honestly, but people will still see you as a fool. Enjoy being that fool with the rolex who think he's a big boy (that's what they say about you).

>>13731234
What you don't understand is that used watches are a lot cheaper than brand new from an AD and that a lot of watch people aren't particularly rich, but they flip them -- they get a few cheaper watches over time, then sell them because they do want that Rolex, then get tired of it after a while and go back to some beaters etc.

>>13731244
Heard. I see the logic.

>>13731226
Steve Jobs worse a shitty Casio. I don't think you are in the know of what the wealthy do as much as you think. The person I know that wears the cheap Seiko quartz got it because it was light and he didn't notice when he was wearing it and it fit under all the clothes he wears, he doesn't wear it on his hand like a pleb so it doesn't matter what it looks like anyway

>>13731258
Sure, and while you wear that Rolex for that period of time, people will see you as a fool.

>>13731214
>The thing is that I already have a black dial brown hands/strap Hamilton Khaki which I love and I don't want to get another watch that's that similar. But I do love these IWC pilots and I can actually afford one now. So now I dunno what to do.

Sell that fucking piece of shit and get the IWC

Decide if you prefer black or white dial, I like both

>>13731199
What's wrong with wearing a good timepiece (as long as you can afford it)? Many rich people dont drive sports cars either, but I would because I like them.

>>13731202
I had a date and the girl definitely spotted the Omega when she read the time on it. She didn't say anything but yeah.

>>13731267
t. Mad bc no Rolex

>>13731244
>That being said, I had 20k+ savings ever since I was like 20 and I couldn't justify to myself paying more than 500 for a watch. But I would understand if you do want to spend your savings on it.

yolo motherfucker

>>13731071
>$800 vs $8000

>>13731278
I could have had a rolex too, if I was one of those who saved up for a Rolex. I'm not mad. If having a Rolex was that important to me, I could've had one in 8 months from now.

what percentage of your income should be the max to spend on a watch to truly be able to "afford" it and not have it look tacky?

>>13731002
Cocktail tiem :D

>>13731298
I think if you have 6 figures you deserve a nice time piece

>>13731271
>>13730277

>>13731301
Thats actually a beautiful watch. How much are they?

>>13731234
A Rolex is not really a staple of wealth nowadays. Most middle class people could afford one, especially if we don't discount used. They just happen to spend their money on vacations, cars, houses etc.

It is definitely still a luxury watch, but the world is so nice nowadays but that the majority of people can afford a certain amount of luxury.

>>13731309
about three fiddy

>>13731316
Classy lookin watch. Good price, i need to look into that.

>>13729569
Rolex = Bentley
Casio = Mitsubishi
Seiko = Toyota
Grand Seiko = Lexus
Patek = Mercedes (quality and flashy, but still classy)
Omega = Audi
Breitling = BMW
Tag = Cadillac
Tissot = Volkswagon
Vacheron = Lambo
JLC = Maserati
Alange a Sohn = Porsche

>>13731298
I tend to think of it in terms of my net worth. My collection is about 5% of my total worth. That seems like about the right number to be for my biggest hobby. Anything over 10% sounds very questionable to me.

>>13731309
use google. its a great watch but the only downside is lack of sapphire glass

>>13731298
Difficult question. Firstly, if you have established yourself, payed off mortgage and have your shit together, then it is slightly different. But let's say we're talking about someone who isn't done being established yet.

I think if you have 50-60k a year then you can feel OK buying your entry level luxury watch (entry level omega, tag heuer, nomos, entry GS, and so on. I'm thinking less than $4000 here) Many people will think it's a waste of money, but I believe you'll get away with it. I'm thinking this is the bordering the type of wealth you will have before people start thinking it's OK to buy those. If you go ahead and buy Rolex, JLC, Patek fucking Philippe, then I'm quite sure people will start thinking of you as a fool.

>>13731320
not a bad list except that Rolex = Mercedes and Patek = Bentley

WR still needs some work.

>>13731320
I think this list makes no sense.

I much more prefer the one someone posted earlier >>13729617 albeit this list is not complete, I'd like to see more brands in it.

>>13731320
nice

citizen = Honda?

>>13731320
IWC = Porsche
A. Lange & Söhne = Ferrari

What is mazda?

Rolex = Land Rover

>>13731332
How is Omega Porsche, when Omega is cheaper than most others? I do think AP would be equivelent to ferrari

Lange isnt really bugatti tier, yes its super expensive but not completely unfeasible like a bugatti.

>>13731354
oris

>>13731355
true

Lange = rolls royce?

>>13731320
Rolex is benz
Patek is R&R
Vc is bentley
Others are mostly ok

>>13731362
Maybach?

>>13731358
What do you mean, Omega is more expensive than most other brands. Omega is a luxury brand, porsche is a luxury brand. Both are kind of the entry level of luxury.

>>13731266
>Steve Jobs worse a shitty Casio.
Not everyone that's rich is into watches. I think we can guess what watch he'd be wearing if he was still alive today though.

Stop ignoring me you /fa/ fucks!

>>13731384
You'll gonna need a new crystal

>>13731362
Lange would be the ultra high end manufacture that most people would never have heard about but those that had rated them incredibly highly.

I've no knowledge about cars so have no idea what brand that would be.

>>13731384
So that's what two penises touching looks like.

>>13731386
Already ordered. Though new crystals with this profile only exist in acrylic. I've had to do the same with my Shitizen Cucktron and my Hisoynic, and though it's not that bad, having that warm, kinda soft plastic feel makes it feel kinda cheaper to the touch, that the cold, hard mineral.

Customers' 14k vintage Movado, is it effay?

>>13731422
It's too bad movado is a shitter brand nowadays.

>>13731422
Great bracelet but I'm really not sure about the watch.

>>13731427
Yeah, but so is most other Swiss brand that used to be good before the quartz-crisis.

>>13731202
Depends on country, here in Spain people (normies) know and spot from miles the Omega Seamaster 300m and some TAG huehuehues.

>>13731422
what a fucking turd

melt that shit down and sell the gold, do him a fucking favor

>>13731435
That's a 14k gold mesh bracelet that was I think hammered or some other shit to produce that random pattern on the top.

It's from the 70's, and the owner only wore it on special occasions, so it's almost NOS, it still has the original protective sticker on the caseback. Also never serviced (which kinda worries me). Still oddly enough there are two stains on the dial that shouldn't really be there for a watch in this good condition. I wonder what happened.

>>13731393
>Lange would be the ultra high end manufacture that most people would never have heard about but those that had rated them incredibly highly.

Pagani

>>13731453
>I wonder what happened.
Can only really guess moisture damage somehow.

I want a g shock
is the gw solar atomic motherfucker worth the extra 50€ over the dw5600?

Rolex = Mercedes
Casio = Mitsubishi
Seiko = Toyota
Grand Seiko = Lexus
Patek = R&R
Omega = BMW
Breitling = Corvette
Tag = Audi
Tissot = Volkswagon
Vacheron = Lamborghini
AP = Ferrari
JLC = Aston Martin
Lange = Koenigsegg
IWC = Porsche
Oris = Renault
Tudor = Peugeot
Orient = Citroen
Glashutte = Volvo
Hublot = Maserati
Panerai = Pagani

>>13731476
Rolex isn't Mercedes. They are land rover, utilitarian tools that have become a luxury status symbol.

>>13731494
>land rover, a luxury status symbol.

nigga please

>>13731474
The tough solar part, yes.

>>13731498
you build that flieger yourself?

>>13731499
It is, tho.

>>13731506
Maybe in Britain where everybody's poor.

Land Rover has junk status.

>>13731499
Land rover are luxury the same way Rolex are.

>>13731502
also isn't it almost identical to the OG g shock

>>13731510
Fun fact Mercedes is utilitarian also. It's the original car.

>>13731518
Mercedes also has 4 + different subsidiary classes of cars ranging from trucks, to sports cars. Merc is unironically a better pick for a brand like Seiko.
Merc is a massive wide range of products that encompasses almost every use. Rolex isn't.

>>13731532
mercedes cars are also reasonably priced

>>13731532
>Merc is a massive wide range of products that encompasses almost every use. Rolex isn't.

I'm sorry, what? Do you even know watches?

Rolex
>chronograph (daytona)
>pilots watch (skydweller)
>dress watch (daydate)
>casual watch (datejust)
>diver (submariner)
>deep diver (seadweller)
>casual diver (yachtmaster)

I mean what the fuck are you even smoking.

Omega has fewer models than Rolex (not counting limited editions).

We /o/ now?

>>13731544
forgot the GMT models

>>13731518
>>13731544
Merc is also one of the older brands like you said yourself. Why are you aligning it with a brand that is comparatively the new kid on the block?
It just doesn't make sense however you cut it.

What's Rolexs Maybach brand, what's their F1 car brand, what's their AMG brand, ect? You are putting a single model where an entire brand sits. What's their affordable chronograph? What's their cheap dress watch? What's their grand complication? Merc has effectively all of these equivalents in their range that Rolex doesn't even touch.
Also Rolex hasn't developed and changed over time in the same way Merc has, they have embraced new technology where Rolex has tried and then shunned quartz.

It's a bad comparison and you should feel bad.

>>13731508
Where the fuck do you live?
It's the rich fuck car of the week. The new SUVs are what actors and shit drive.
You're thinking of the old ones, which personally I think are cool as fuck, but their modern cards are luxury SUV.

>>13731548
We both like gears and things that look nice.
Wouldn't be the worst thing.

Post your table clocks

>>13731587
would bea better home for /wt/ than /fa/

nobrainer watch that always looks good -on budget?

>>13731626
Depends on your budget.

>>13731626
Seiko is the best watch for the money under $500

>>13731630
500$
>>13731631
thanks

>>13731631
New thread Seiko edition when?

New

>>13731692
>>13731692
>>13731692

>>13731616
this but unironically

>>13728540
The anime fag is memeing you its a fine movement