/fa/ - Fashion

Post lumes

>>13558489

>>13558494

>>13558489
watch essentials 102 link is still broken

How common is it that the minute and second hands go out of sync? Meaning the minute hand isn't exactly on the marker when the second hand is at 12 o'clock.

>>13558494
>>13558498

>>13558501
Post pics

>>13558494

>>13558504
Can't. I'm at work. The watch is at home. When I set the time it was in sync. But after a few minutes it was about 10 seconds off; when the second hand is at 10 o'clock the minute hand is exactly on the marker.

>>13558513
What watch is that?

>>13558513
>so embarrassed his watch purchase went so horribly he doesn't even wear it to work

>>13558501
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY FUCKING PULSAR, YOU STUPID CUNT!!!!

>>13558501
It might just be your fault for not adjusting the time correctly and waiting for the 0

>>13558501
>>13558513
u still a fagit

>>13558521
Stop giving him (You)s.

>>13558521
>>13558532
Why are you being bitchy? Are you a couple of girls?

WAY/WT/?

>>13558532
>>13558531
Pulsarbro is the freshest oc poster in this thread, I will give him (you)s and there is nothing you can do to stop me.

So it looks like /fa/ has settled into its own cycle just like /g/ did:

>some guy asks about his pulsar
>some guy posts his white dial vostok asking what people are wearing
>some guy posts his jungans
>some guy reposts windy's gf
>some guy occasionally posts pics from his watcmaking work

Where's at /g/ we had:

>beadposting
>tudor posting
>MVMT/vincero "are these any gud?" posting
>seiko GS finishing arguments
>seiko/citizen/casio posting

>>13558551
>some guy asks about his pulsar
>some guy reposts windy's gf
>beadposting
>tudor posting
>MVMT/vincero "are these any gud?" posting
>seiko/citizen/casio posting

All me desu kek

>>13558541

>>13558556
kek

>>13558541

Gotta catch them all.

>>13558551
>>some guy posts his white dial vostok asking what people are wearing
I post whatever watch I happen to be wearing. It's only been my SE020 the last couple of days because I finally got all the parts for the Pepsi Murphy bezel.

>rolex
>stamped clasp
>folded links

Literally what the fuck?

>>13558494

>>13558704
>he actually bought a GS diver

>>13558494

Another

>>13558710

My wife got it for me! I love it!

>>13558715
>yo
>when I pay submariner money for my diver I want the clasp to look like I made it myself
>stamped components are just as good as milled ones my homie
>also gimmie pins in my bracelet, fuck screws mane
>I enjoy titanium because it means the design has to be boring as fuck to account for what a shitty and hard to work with metal it is, also I want my watch to weigh as much as a plastic one
Lmaoing at your life.

>>13558704
Finally a GS with lume.

>>13558524
>adjusting the time correctly
What do you mean?

Hemiltonian reporting in

>>13558739
>titanium is bad because it's light
>pins are bad because youtubers told me so

I think the clasp looks fine and actually pretty cool, but that's subjective, and obviously milled > stamped, so those are fair points. You seem like you just hate Grand Seiko as a brand without taking any of their positive qualities into consideration, though.

Also, a Grand Seiko diver costs 3K less than a Sub.

>>13558801
>titanium is bad because it's light
Titanium is bad because it means you're limited as to what shapes you can produce, it's part of the reason the GS looks so deathly boring.

>pins are bad because youtubers told me so
Pins are bad because they require tools and effort to remove.

>You seem like you just hate Grand Seiko as a brand
Yes because it's akin to spending $150,000 on a Kia.

>without taking any of their positive qualities into consideration
Like what?

>muh finishing

Not an argument, look at the state of that clasp.

>>13558808
if a kia was build like a rolls royce for half the price i would gladly buy one instead of the rolls. grand seiko is not a brand to flex and that was never their intention.

>>13558850
>i-it's expensive so people must buy them to flex it
I see now that you're a poorfag.

The cost of owning a Rolex for ten years will be significantly less than the cost of owning a GS for ten years.

>>13558808
>GS looks so deathly boring
Again, this is a subjective opinion. I disagree with you, and I think that there is a market for upscale watches that are subtly designed. Without going disgustingly weebshit on you, I think it's a pretty Japanese philosophy they apply in their designs. Certainly not for everyone, you're very much not "wrong" for not liking how they look.

>Pins meme again
How often are you resizing your watch band, anon??

>Kia comment
You're retarded. Grand Seiko hand makes and hand finishes these watches. That's why they're priced as they are, in addition to the quality of their movements. If lamborghini or whatever hand made cars that were less expensive than a mercedes, that would be an accurate comparison.

>Finishing comment
You're retarded (again), that clasp isn't "poorly finished", you just don't like its design. Don't get those things confused because it makes you look like a simian ape who doesn't understand what basic words mean. See pic related, the inside bezel on that power reserve inlay is hand polished to mirror shine. The finishing on GS watches is immaculate.

>>13558879
>that clasp isn't "poorly finished"

>stamped components and rough edges galore
>not poorly finished

What is your definition of "poorly finished"?

>>13558808
>GS looks so deathly boring
Again, this is a subjective opinion. I disagree with you, and I think that there is a market for upscale watches that are subtly designed. Without going disgustingly weebshit on you, I think it's a pretty Japanese philosophy they apply in their designs. Certainly not for everyone, you're very much not "wrong" for not liking how they look.

>Pins meme again
How often are you resizing your watch band, anon??

>Kia comment
You're retarded. Grand Seiko hand makes and hand finishes these watches. That's why they're priced as they are, in addition to the quality of their movements. If lamborghini or whatever hand made cars that were less expensive than a mercedes, that would be an accurate comparison.

>Finishing comment
You're retarded (again), that clasp isn't "poorly finished", you just don't like its design. Don't get those things confused because it makes you look like a simian ape who doesn't understand what basic words mean. See pic related, the inside bezel on that power reserve inlay is hand polished to mirror shine. The finishing on GS watches is immaculate.

>borrowed my friends fake Rolex
>Told a bar slut it was real and got my dick sucked
What's a good cheap fake/homage Rolex that normies will think is a $5000+ watch? Aren't fakes technically illegal to own? Invicta makes some shitty ones that won't do the trick.

Tldr: how do I make normies think I'm shelling out thousands on watches when I'm not rich at all?

I'm poor so this $99 Seiko is my baby. I've scuffed it up alot though. Got any suggestions for a cheap new watch that looks and feels somewhat quality?

>>13558884
Sorry, i deleted and resubmitted to include the image. The post you were replying to is now one below yours.

I don't see any rough edges on that clasp. Stamped components, again, I'll give you, but Rolex also stamps some parts of some of their watches, including the sub! Pic related, its a 16610.

>>13558489

Classic, American, timeless.

>>13558888
Nice, that's finished beautifully, now do something interesting with the design. A ruler has a perfectly flat edge but I'm not going to masturbate to pictures of one.

>>13558897
>old rolex straps are dogshit and were for a long time even after cheaper brands were using solid components throughout
What's this I'm hearing for the first time?

Now compare a six-digit Sub bracelet to a modern GS.

>>13558890
Nobody will ever believe you're rich because of the watches you own alone, you will need everything else that comes with that lifestyle too. Also, you need watches people have heard of and know cost money, like real rolexes, omegas, breitling, and so on.

>>13558890
>What's a good cheap fake/homage Rolex
There are none as normies only know Rolex.

Just get a noob V9 or ARF black date Submariner, they are around $400-$500 and 99.99% of normies won't know the difference. If you fancy your chances you could get one of those dogshit $100 DHgate ones.

Anyone who knows their shit though will be able to spot it across the room and you'll look dumb.

>>13558890
Noobfactory and ARF make the currently best quality fake subs, if that's what you're looking for specifically. The really good ones will run you $400-500 though. A noob V9 (latest version) is like $520 from a trusted dealer.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas

This place has a lot of info and people who get very into replica (read: fake) watches. It seems like consensus that those high end replicas I mentioned are visually indistinguishable from the real thing to anyone that's not a Rolex AD, but the movements inside are dogshit unless you get a version with a genuine ETA inside (and even those are rarely ACTUAL ETA's).

If you're looking to flash, and don't care about the workings of the watch, you can do so reliably for much less than $5k.

>>13558896
>Seiko 7T series movement
That's the only watch you'll ever need, faggot.

>>13558896
what >>13558918 said. why not get a new sapphire crystal put in and keep using it

>>13558808
>Titanium is bad because it means you're limited as to what shapes you can produce, it's part of the reason the GS looks so deathly boring.
The GS diver has far more complex shapes and a larger number of alternative finish textures than a sub does. I personally find the GS hi-beat diver ugly as sin, but there is no basis on which you could describe the case and bracelet shapes as boring under which a Sub wouldn't be more boring.

>Pins are bad because they require tools and effort to remove.
Your personal preferences are, and I'm quite sure this will come as a shock to you, not laws of nature. Grand Seiko uses pins because they believe that some additional sideways flex in their bracelets is worth the trade-off for increased comfort in wear. You might not prefer this trade-off, but there are people who do.

In any case, its hardly as if bracelets need to be resized very often.

Rolex offers a better clasp, the tightest end-link to lug fitment in the industry, and better shock resistance than a GS hi-beat diver. The GS offers better external finishing, lighter weight, better movement finishing, and more manual labour.

I don't see any strong reasons to describe one as significantly better than the other, as aesthetics are (within reason) a matter of taste.

>>13558792
Pilot day date standing by.

>>13558565

my nigga

>>13558917
>It seems like consensus that those high end replicas I mentioned are visually indistinguishable from the real thing to anyone that's not a Rolex AD
This is a meme, they are good copies but fit and finish isn't even close and it'd be very obvious to anyone who owns one.

>>13558932
>The GS diver has far more complex shapes
It doesn't though, it's just straight cut edges everywhere. All that was done to make it was some worker held the case against an angled piece of metal and moved it into a buffing tool.

>>13558888
>>13558932
hahahaha, rolex is obviously way better finished than grand seiko, no discussion

>>13558942
Listen to this guy, I (>>13558917) don't actually own one of these replicas and am not that into the scene.

Still seems like it'd probably pass with normie sluts if that's all you're going for.

>>13558951
>>13558952
Ah, I see this is just bait then, since no one would seriously try to claim that shapes with more surfaces, with more alternating finishes applied to those surfaces, applied with a much more skilled labour intensive polishing techniques, are "obviously" easier than that mostly automated external finishing of the simpler case shape and bracelet.

Here's your (You).

>>13558963
>it'd probably pass with normie sluts if that's all you're going for.
They absolutely would pass with normie sluts, but that doesn't change the fact that this:

>fit and finish isn't even close and it'd be very obvious to anyone who owns one.
is also true.

>>13558964
https://youtu.be/Bh1Xww576Yc?t=96

1:36 if the timestamp doesn't work.

That's all that was done to make that GS case, that one procedure there repeated for each of the lines needed.

If you think that's labor intensive you are retarded.

>>13558972
Yeah, and since AP is known for making shitter tier watches, it's definitely unsurprising that a <$10k watch uses the same techniques as them to achieve a similar quality!

You've done it anon, you've won! Dumb GS idiots wouldn't know a luxury brand like Rolex from some shitfactory like Audemars Piguet!!! Hhahahaahaaha! The state of Seikofags!!!

>>13558739

I'm the OP of the GS diver and am a little late to debate party but if you are paying sub prices and can only afford 1, you shouldn't be buying a sub.

Also, how old are you? "stop liking what I don't like." If you are making a finishing argument, you should try on a bunch of GS 's and the sub. Both are nice but the finishing question is not even a question. My guess is you've handled nor seen either.

>>13558864

True. This is inarguable. But who buys things for resale value? Why plan on selling it? Buy shit you like and sell it if you stop liking it. That's what people with money do.

>>13558888

Quads of truth.

>>13558992
>strawman
Sad.

>>13558994
>but if you are paying sub prices and can only afford 1, you shouldn't be buying a sub
Why?

Also stop liking what I don't like.

>>13558999
>just waste ur money bro
The Seiko mentality.

>>13559007
>buying something to own it for life is "wasting your money"
what?

QUIT POSTING SEIKOS

>>13559011
>he thinks he'll own it for life
Have fun getting less than 50% of your money back when you get bored of it and decide to sell it.

>>13558972

I can't tell if you were the first guy to argue against GS in favor of rolex who complained about the pins but at that guy said pins are inferior because they take more work and now the argument is GS takes less work and therefore is inferior?

Also I've never had a pin slip on me. I've had a screw slip on me, and now I prefer pins. A couple dollars in tools and a little time tinkering. If you like mechanical watches, you may also enjoy tinkering which is part of my personal enjoyment of the hobby.

Again, one is not better than the other, its all subjective in my eyes Rolex makes a great watch.

>>13559007
But i like what you like. Its your view I find flawed

>>13559020
>its all subjective in my eyes Rolex makes a great watch
No, that's not good enough for me.

I'm going to need you to accept that Rolex make the best watches on the planet or I will be forced to blacklist you from my general.

>>13559012

NEVER

>>13558972
>more laborious polishing and brushing techniques, applied to more individual surfaces, using more manual and skilled labour isn't as good as the less laborious polishing and brushing techniques, applied to fewer surfaces, using more automation
(You)

>>13559012

>>13559028
>more laborious polishing and brushing techniques, applied to more individual surfaces, using more manual and skilled labour isn't as good as the less laborious polishing and brushing techniques, applied to fewer surfaces, using more automation
This is literally true though, luddite-anon.

@13559036
lol

>>13559012
Good time to post my Seiko? Not pictured is the Giugiaro diver in the mail. A Rolex or Grand Seiko hopefully will be added soon. Kinda interested in jumping into a higher price bracket.

>>13559023
>backpedaling as though he was joking the entire time
a unique form of damage control, anon, but it's not good enough for me, i'm going to need you to kill yourself

Is this real or fake?
Any help would be nice. I don't own it yet.

>>13559060
why would anyone fake a g-shock?

>>13559059
No.

Seiko GS's are just boring as fuck, there are a couple with interesting dials and I like that they have a power reserve gauge but there's just nothing going on or worth looking at in 99% of them.

Plus you have to spend $5000 on something that still says "Seiko" on it.

>>13559064
I have bought like 4 fake gshocks when I was a broke teenager. Didn't know much about them. Got them for around $45 each.
Worst part is that they were copies of cheaper models.

>>13559072
Correction. $4.5 not $45

>>13559068
refusing to kill yourself after such heinous shitposting is a one way ticket to getting yourself blacklisted and sent back to /mkg/, anon.

Nothing personnell. You understand.

Building a quick new /wtg/ watch guide for watches $300 and under

Throw me names you think deserve to be on it.

>>13559090
Nothing by Seiko, Citizen or Casio.

>>13558489
Can anyone ID this watch? The info I know so far is it's worn by a female rescue swimmer. I'm looking to replace my Casio Illuminator.

>>13559093
Citizen Promaster Diver is the best one in the price range though

regardless, what the fuck is left in the <$300 price range without out those brands? Timex, Vostok, and that Sub ripoff by Invicta

building a quick new /wtg/ watch guide for watches $300 and under

throw me names you think deserve to be on it

>>13559117
Nothing by Seiko, Citizen, Casio, Timex, or Vostok.

>>13559068
(You)

>>13559117
i'd Break it down by genre/style/complication. Also giving both contemporary and vintage suggestions is key.

>Dress
>Diver
>Everyday (I classify this as a watch that blends dress and sport and as such has that versatility. Then again this genre is somewhat vague and up for interpretation.)
>Field/Military
>GMT
>Chronograph


I have sorta been writing one up in my spare time but for things about $900-$700 and under.

>>13559022

I'm ok with you blacklisting me. Because Seiko aside I think there are many better watch makers than Rolex.

>>13559047

Would you say that the 4th one from the left could be called the AK-47 of watches?

>>13559023
>I'm ok with you blacklisting me. Because Seiko aside I think there are many better watch makers than Rolex.


Sorry, posted this to my own post by accident

>>13559117

>>13559090
A seiko 007/009 with an aftermarket crystal

I've fallen so deep down the watch hole with this channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJtaCkcb4A
He makes TVG look like an amateur
This guy's videos are fucking great but I'm so sick of hearing the words Audemars Piguet, Patek Phillipe and Horology

>>13559135
What retard thinks Rolex is the world's best?

>>13558489
>>>/pol/180582140

>>13558778
>wait for seconds to go to 60
>stop time
>move minute hand right on the marker
>resume time

>>13559154
H moser is definately not one of the best, stop shilling the brand

>>13559169
>Criticism without a counterpoint or examples of a superior alternative
They aren't the world's best but their finishing is better than most Rolex watches at a third the cost

Who would you say is the best?
Piaget? AP? Vacheron Constantin? GP? Patek? Blancpain? Bregeut?
Is most expensive best?

>>13559180
Hard to say who is better between Rolex and HCM as they are two makers with a very different goal, vision, and intent for their watches.

>>13559030

beautiful, currently looking for one of these.

>>13559180
personally I like F. P Journe the most, as to who is the best, there is no single best brand.
Dufour has the best finishing, Credor comes close and has more interesting designs, Patek has the richest History and A. Lange has very good finishing and cool complications even in mid tier models (even though they are still extremely expensive)
thats just my opinion though

>>13559180
>their finishing is better than most Rolex watches
Sure, Moser has great finishing. Rolex's claim is in making millions of the world's most accurate hairspring-regulated watches (as far as I know only 500k+ patek are more tightly specced for accuracy) with high reliability and long service intervals.
>at a third the cost
In what universe. The cheapest entry to Moser is at 10k. The overwhelming majority of rolexes are less than 30k.

>Do some reading
>Realize current grail watch is extremely affordable and attainable as compared to many great watches I'll likely never own
Feels weird man
Who knew there was so much nice stuff out there

>>13558931
How much does that cost?

>>13559154

mostly brand whores who know nothing about watches. but dont get me wrong, this is a valid opinion as watches are considered jewelry. Just to name Rolex as the end all be all shows lack of at least basic watch brand knowledge.

>>13559209

bro, this is the journey! This is the best part of the hobby, expanding your horizons and learning more and wanting different things. There is no linear acclimation to watch acquiring, its an ever changing taste, that's what keeps it interesting and fun. Your first grail will be different from the next to the next to the next. Enjoy it, its a wonderful ride.

>>13559180
>Who would you say is the best?
Dufour is the greatest living watchmaker.

>>13559224
I have so much money in cars and firearms and furniture
Getting into another boutique hobby that costs lots of money and is highly liquid is the last thing I needed BUT HERE WE ARE

>>13559090
Everything by Seiko.

>>13559202
>Rolex's claim is in making millions of the world's most accurate hairspring-regulated watches (as far as I know only 500k+ patek are more tightly specced for accuracy)
I believe JLC's gyrotorubillons are adjusted to something like - 1 to +2 SPD.

I'd also note that Grand Seiko's new limited edition VFA movement is rated to +/- 2 SPD in 6 positions over 34 days of testing, which is a tighter standard and a much harder one to achieve in a regulated balance movement than a free sprung one.

I'd also note that some of the spec accuracy advantages of free sprung balance movements over regulated balances exist more on paper than in practice because of the way positional variation tends to cluster on regulated balance movements, where dual up, crown down, and six up tend to be closer to each other and have a much larger influence on worn accuracy than crown up, dial down, and 12 up.

That's a bit of an esoteric argument though.

>>13559217
Just my opinion but to me Rolex is the highest I will probably go in terms of watch buying. To me it represents maybe the highest end watch you can buy that is also the most wearable. That combination makes it the most pragmatic luxury end watch in my eyes. I don't think it is my favorite brand but that is what Rolex feels like to me.

>>13558494

>>13559180
I was actually impressed with Blancpain’s finishing for their price.

>>13559134
Between 300-1000usd is such a huge range of good watches, making a guide for them is kind of silly. I just want to nail the best of the best for those people coming in for a first sub 300 automatic watch. Like when I first started lurking here. But yes, basically those categories.

>>13559146
This is great. Thank you!

>>13559246
Are you saying the GS VFA is specced to +/- 2spd in each of six positions (as opposed to a mean daily rate of +/-2spd)? If not, I would not consider that necessarily a tighter spec, depending on what their positional variance tolerance is.

>>13559286
No I'm saying that the mean daily variation includes testing in all six positions rather than the usual five.

Based on the 34 day testing program and the watch the new VFA is an homage to, I would expect that the other tolerances share a lot in common with the stringent astronomical observatory chronometer testing procedures that used to be used at the observatory trials.

>>13559090
Deep Blue Nato Diver.
Casio AE1200

>>13559300
I would be surprised if testing in six positions resulted in a meaningfully better measurement of mean daily rate on the wrist than measuring in five positions. I suspect industrial-scale automated testing equipment allows Rolex to get a pretty good sense of how any particular watch will perform. Your argument appears to be that testing in six positions versus five implies tighter tolerances, when I would argue that all it directly implies is a very slightly improved picture of how a watch performs, and that in addition that slight improvement's impact on how good a picture the manufacturer has of the watch's on-wrist performance is very small compared to the size of the errors of a mechanical watch (although I have no direct proof of this, I think it is a pretty reasonable argument).

It may be that the new VFAs are tested to similar standards as observatory chronometers, but I don't think noting that the test program is 34 days is particularly strong evidence at all.

Looking for fun meme watches as gifts for my younger brothers
What can I get for under $150 with a story and some visual interest that can still be worn daily by college kids who work in stiff environments
Quartz is fine, used/vintage/retro is preferred

>>13559326
D.T.C Agnew watch.
Operation Desert Shield Vostok

>>13559354
Those are great ideas, thanks

>>13559322
> I suspect industrial-scale automated testing equipment allows Rolex to get a pretty good sense of how any particular watch will perform
Do you have a source for any details on exactly how Rolex is testing their movements now, beyond the headline +/- 2 SPD mean daily variation number?

So far I haven't been able to find anything that gives any more details on the particulars of their testing procedures.

>Your argument appears to be that testing in six positions versus five implies tighter tolerances, when I would argue that all it directly implies is a very slightly improved picture of how a watch performs, and that in addition that slight improvement's impact on how good a picture the manufacturer has of the watch's on-wrist performance is very small compared to the size of the errors of a mechanical watch (although I have no direct proof of this, I think it is a pretty reasonable argument).

The original claim was that Rolex makes the most accurate hairspring regulated watches, my only claim is was the the 34 days of testing in 6 positions used for the new VFA movements is a tighter standard than what I know of Rolex's current testing standard based on the +/- 2 SPD mean daily variation standard and what little else I've heard about their current procedure.

>It may be that the new VFAs are tested to similar standards as observatory chronometers, but I don't think noting that the test program is 34 days is particularly strong evidence at all.
Well, the supposition of the possibility came to me based on the Neuchatel testing procedures being 35 days once you throw out the days they don't count for the results.

>>13559357
I need to get the Agnew watch myself. I did my undergrad thesis on him. He's a really interesting proto-trump figure in American politics. A really funny Agnew story is that after he was kicked out of the VP office for corruption he wrote a 'fictional thriller novel' about a Vice President who is wrongfully forced from office. It's called the Canfield decision. Terrible book, not worth your time to read it.

>>13558912
I have a sports car they think is great too

>>13558916
Are the DHGate ones really dogshit?

>>13558917
Yeah, flash is all I care about. Any other recommendations for that?

>>13559415
>Are the DHGate ones really dogshit?
You really think a $100 copy of a $10,000 watch is going to be any good?

>>13559248

Totally, and that is a perfectly valid argument and view. I applaud your honestly and wish you many Rolexes!

>>13559162
yeah that's what I did

>>13559248
If I was only to ever get 1 high-end watch then you can't go wrong with a Rolex simply because they are the most reliable mechanical watch you can buy with great accuracy and immaculate finishing. They are literally designed to last a lifetime.

How to wear perlon without looking like an homosexual

Thoughts on Skagen watches?

>>13559495
Honestly? Yes. For that price you should be able to make it LOOK like it, which is all that's needed. Only someone who knows watches (very very few people and zero bar sluts) and would have to take it off your wrist and look at it to know it was fake, right?

>>13559577
Stop sucking big delicious cock and wear the damn thing.

Why did they remove the "heimat" writing? I think it looked cool

Has anyone ever tried to recreate the Marie Antoinette pocket watch?

>>13559742
Looks like a $12 chinkshit, so yes, most likely the chinks have recreated it.

>>13559415
the DHGate ones are dogshit in the sense that the (fake) lume falls off the markers, and the bracelets literally break off, and stuff like that. if you don't want to spend 500 on a new noob or arf, get an older version for 100-200, you'll get a much better product

>>13559740
>MEXIKO

>>13559090
seagull 1963
rodina
for cheap chinese watches

>>13559090
>saving my pictures
You're making me blush, anon.

>>13558494

>>13559090
Tisell.

Whats the quality like for $350?

>>13559117
Orient

can we get some pics of Windy’s gf?

>>13560119

>>13560036
Muh dick

>>13559699
That's how they are I guess.

They look about right, for $100 small things like the bezel pip size, the thickness of the font on the dial, the exact case shape etc. might be off. Maybe they'll get a thing or two wrong, like I think there's a Submariner DHgate rep out there that has polished centre links on the bracelet when obviously it shouldn't. That's the difference between a $100 rep and a $500 one.

I guess either will fool someone who knows nothing about watches, neither will be a particularly good watch and neither will fool someone who owns or has spent extensive time looking at the real the real deal.

>>13560127
that’s not very nice anon. she’s cute

>>13560144
Yup, it's a beaut. Been wearing it a lot lately.

>>13560212
I hate this watch so much. The wavy dial and the shitty 90s aesthetic is so bad I want to gouge my eyes out.
Blue watches in general just seem so boyish.

>>13560219
I understand, it's definitely not for everyone. Though it almost single-handedly saved Omega in the 90's, and that thanks to the Brosnan Bond connection. You still see many of them on people's wrists today, and I have no doubt that it'll achieve the 'iconic' status in a few years solely due to the numbers sold.

Of course, none of that addresses your concerns, so I'll try to do so directly.

>The wavy dial...
Was definitely 'unique' for that time period, and not something you'd see on dive watches. Omega's execution is excellent, though not to the standards of finishing that people bitch and moan about on this forum when comparing Rolex to Grand Seiko. Still, it's a wonderful effect, and something the newer model co-axial Seamasters are sadly lacking.
>shitty 90s aesthetic
Well, there are a few things here. The design 'as a design' is completely functional and practical, with the one serious complaint being that the skeleton hands are better utilized in the chronograph version of this watch rather than the standard diver, which would benefit from sword hands (which you see in the black variant from this time period). In terms of the details, everything is correctly proportioned, but unique enough to be different to the Rolex Sub which was the only serious competitor in this class of watch (and 3-4 times the price, depending). The bracelet is also a work of art at this price range, and it is known to be Omega's most comfortable bracelet they ever constructed aside from the early 70's Speedmaster bracelet and perhaps the flat grain-of-rice bracelet of the 1966-8 Seamaster.
>Blue watches in general just seem so boyish
Can't help you there buddy. I would guess that you don't like Blue sharkskin either, right?

>>13560219
>Blue watches in general just seem so boyish.

>>13560235
Hey how's it going seamaster man? I want to ask if you are in the discord?

>>13560240
Thanks, doing fine. Right now I'm looking after my Dad, but he's starting to feel better now, so that's good. Regardless, I'm up at a strange hour in the morning, and you guys are my company.

The discord? I don't actually know what it is, so the answer is obviously no. Is there a forum dedicated solely to Seamaster owners? I can only imagine how much fun that would be....lol But 'discord'....help me out on that one. Is it a chatroom?

How's yours running? Mine's running well, but lately I've been thinking a lot about how much 'wear and tear' I'll put on the movement if I'm running it without wearing it. I don't use a winder at all, that's not what I mean. But lately I haven't had a need to wear a watch at all because I've been doing a lot of my work corresponding from home, which means that a watch is in many ways useless.

So, that means that last month I stopped wearing any watches entirely, and only recently have I returned to wearing them, just because I enjoy them. But I have been thinking a lot about people who have their watches on winders if they're not on the wrist.....and it also made me finally understand the value of the manual-wind watch. With the Seagull, I don't feel 'guilty' for not wearing it to keep it wound....I just let it run down, and when I want it, I wind it up, set the time, and bingo. With the Seamaster, it's a little more complex (date) but now I don't feel guilty about letting it run down either....and I never used to be like this.

How are you this fine morning/evening/whatever?

>>13560212
>the black dial looks better
>bond wore the blue dial
>can't buy the better looking dial because of this

>>13560212
I've been looking for a decent one but can't seem to find one in good condition with the box and all the papers rip

>>13559209
>>13559237
You should spend the extra money and get a Pro. That dial spacing makes me want to puke.

>>13560299
No no, you can. The problem is that they never did a sword hand version in blue for this model, so it's one of those things that will forever be a 'what-if'. A sword hand blue could have been the definitive version ever, if we pretend that Bond didn't exist. Whether or not it would have sold in the numbers is almost irrelevant compared with the aesthetics and the legibility.

By all means, buy the black version if you can, just make sure you get one with the original bracelet and NOT the cheaper-to-manufacture later bracelet. Don't worry, there are tonnes of Bonds out there, so if you eventually want to get one, you'll 'always' be able to. The black ones are getting rarer though....

>>13560300
Well, you have a few problems there. 1) Bond Seamasters before the co-axial usually suffered specific age related things. The second hand tip, which is originally red, fades to white with sun exposure, so a lot of the examples we see have a faded red tip unless it's been replaced. The box is a kind of fake red leatherette, which begins to shred after about 2 years or so. My box has left red shreddings everywhere in the outer white box, and I know I'm not the only one who has this problem.

Quite honestly, forget the box and shit. Just make sure the watch has been serviced by Omega. Then wear it and enjoy. You're not wearing the box, nor will it significantly add value given how quickly the box deteriorates.

>>13560303
I hate it too, but I think the Anon wants it for the size....many Anons on this board have small wrists, so this size is better for them in their eyes. It's just a guess though...as I completely agree with you about the spacing.

>>13560313
Sorry, correction.
They DID do a blue sword hand, but it had the black sword hand FACE, not the blue skeleton face. In other words, what I was trying to say was that they didn't do a sword-hand PLUS dot-hour-markers configuration ever. It was either sword hands with the old 300 markers OR the skeleton hands with dots. But there IS a blue version of the sword hands with 300 markers...and if I remember correctly, it's ELECTRIC blue, not just normal blue.

I like dots more, pic unrelated. But that doesn't change the fact that the black sword hands is by far the most legible Seamaster ever made.

>>13560272
The discord is a chat program that some of the /g/ members of /wt/ made in case /wt/ went to complete shit due to trolling. Now we are 60 people there from /wt/ in there. It serves as a stable home for us /wt/-posters without any trolls. If you'd like to try it out, it's very easy. You just go on this invitation link https://discord.gg/Mw8pGP - you don't need to download the discord program to be there, you can have it in your browser, but if you want to download the discord app for windows then it's here https://discordapp.com/ I would say that is the better option, it's just a small simple program originally for gamers who communicate with each other on a discord server, anonymously.

Mine is running well too, but it's not mine anymore. My 13 year old nephew has taken over the watch.
I can't even begin to imagine how it's like not wearing a watch, I have worn them since I was a little boy and I never stopped. I feel naked when not wearing a watch, hehe. I always put one on, I even used to sleep with one most of my life, but I don't now.

>>13560119
I'd rather get more of her big boobed friend tbqfh

>>13558890
just look for 16610 NOOB on dhgate, easy i ordered a few and never had customs problems

in the pic is my 20 dollar beater fake rolex

>>13560320
Re: discord. Cool, thanks! I had no idea of the existence of this, nor how to use it. I'll think about it, but in truth I haven't been on /wt/ in a long while, probably because I got all the answers I ever really needed and felt I had nothing left to contribute. Maybe if I return one day, I'll do the discord thing. I'll keep it in mind seriously.

I'm glad your Seamaster is being enjoyed by the next generation. I used to feel the same way you did about wearing a watch...but I think what happened is that while I'm at home I tend to not only do normal 'work' but I also try to do maintenance/upkeep on the house itself, which means that wearing watches just gets in the way. You don't want to hammer with them, or climb roofs with them, or anything else like that. So, it's been a bit of a lifestyle change, but I'm sure if I'm back 'at the office' then the watch will be back on again.

Funny though...I could never sleep with a watch on. It's too uncomfortable, and can scratch up my face or the faces of others in the bedde.

Though if I had pic related, I'd probably weld the bracelet together so it would never come off my wrist....

>>13560313
>just make sure you get one with the original bracelet and NOT the cheaper-to-manufacture later bracelet
Any info on this? Couldn't find anything about it on Google, different 2531.80.00s have different bracelets?

>>13558917
if you don't care about the movement you can get a spot on external copy for 150$ the noob factory v5 with 2815 movement

>>13560329
Is that your favorite speedy variant?

>>13560330
There were two styles. The original has the 'Bond' bracelet, but the Black sword hands model ended up with a simpler bracelet (see pic). It's not as comfy, and it's cheaper to manufacture, and it's just not as nice. I don't know the reference numbers for it though...that's something you'd have to look up.

>>13560334
The one in my previous post. >>13560334
It's a grail of some due to the sheer rarity, but for me its my grail solely due to the aesthetics. Cal. 321's are available and at a reasonable price, and unless you're looking for an Ed White then you're not going to be breaking the bank. But this one...it has the most robust automatic chronograph Omega ever produced, it is cased in the most legible combination of dial/crystal/shape, and it has all the features of a watch that I'd ever want.

>>13560334
Sorry, I meant >>13560329
I'm a little tired....here's another pic.

>>13560313
Thanks for the advice, how often do you get it serviced? And how much does it cost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scti9U7lVq4

>dumb boomer
>button collar with no tie
>"GS is the best ever, no debate"
>virgin glasses
>probably a cuck

The average GS owner, very, very embarrassing.

>>13560424
>I judge objects by what I believe they project to others about the social status and personality traits I wish to possess rather than by judging their aesthetic, manufacturing and finishing qualities.

>>13560424

you've described almost every rolex wanter under the age of 40. (and many over)

>>13560073

Depends on the exact piece. How's the movement? How's the case condition? MOst KS and GS pieces from the 60's and 70's in really good condition run around 600-thousands depending on the model.

>>13560073
If you are patient and disciplined you can find 45xx King Seiko models on Yahoo! Japan Auctions for that kind of price, but you should expect them to be in 'pretty good' condition, as very good to excellent condition exampled tend to run closer to $500 - $750.

Also understand that there is more risk in buying a vintage 45xx than typical with vintage Daini models as there is a somewhat higher chance of excessive wear and if you do ever end up needing parts, donor movements are going to be expensive because there was never a mid-range version of the 45xx movement.

>>13560424
There's nothing wrong with this 60 year old dude. He even says he also has a Rolex.

>>13560436
>GS
>aesthetic, manufacturing and finishing qualities

>>13560437
>you've described almost every rolex wanter under the age of 40. (and many over)
Nope, not even close.

>>13560445
>He even says he also has a Rolex.
One that he's so assmad he lost money on that he went out and bought the watch with the greatest depreciation of any "luxury" brand (the GS) just to prove he isn't assmad about losing money and being a retard.

Found some more interesting stuff on Zenith's deformable oscillator movements: https://www.watchadvisor.com/magazine/reports/zenith-defy-lab-learn-all-you-need-know-about-palace-revolution

The interview with Guy Semon, the head of R&D at the LVMH Group, makes clear that LVMH really does intend to industrialise this new movement type and use it across their brands, including TAG HUEHUE.

Also interesting that Semon explains that they planned to shrink and three dimensionalise the oscillator before its next use, which may explain some of the delay between the launch of the Defy Lab and the announcement of any additional models with this type of movement.

>>13558551
you forgot me

>>13560450

lol this guy

I'm tempted to buy these to put into my SNK809. What do you boiz think?

>>13560478
I guess liek this but different hands.
I already have a sapphire lens on it and I've polished the case.

>>13560481
>>13560478
Found one with that dial and those hands.

>>13560478
>>13560481
>>13560493
I wonder if you got the idea from me. I posted that mod in /wt/ maybe a month ago or something.

>>13560503
Kek, that's actually a real one.

>Gib it back

Get out the way watchfuckers, a
VERY fast leopard coming through at incredibly high speed.

>>13560524
Lol it’s not, I actually posted it just to see if it’d get called out or not because I wanted to know how good the quality was. So, thanks.

>>13560493
You don't just have to get that dial/hands. There are literally hundreds of possible options out there to do your own custom shit.

>>13560547
Had doubts about it but the finishing on the case and the bracelet is supprisingly good for a rep.

Thoughts on Sternglas watches?

>>13560504
Is that yours?! It's one of the first google results from searching for SKX dial swap.

>>13560579
I actually dig this aesthetic though. Better than a lot of shitty mods.

>>13560606
You're pathetic

>>13560605
>Is that yours?! It's one of the first google results from searching for SKX dial swap.
No, it's not mine, I just posted the middle one at one point.

Recommend men's watches ≤35mm

>>13560625
New? Seiko Dolce SACM171, 34mm Rolex models.

Vintage? Lots.

>>13560625
37mm is the smallest size a man can wear.

>>13560625
Casio f-91w

>>13560633
Don't think that's true. I see mostly men up to maybe 40 years old wearing big watches, 40mm+. To me it's looks gay. Even 38mm is kind of big I think, I had one that I gave away. Exception for dive watches maybe. My dad has a dive watch but he has larger wrists than me.

>>13560625
Vintage slavshit dress watch.

>>13560664
I find 39mm the perfect size between class and presence.
36mm watches generally look too feminine even on skinny wrists except for dress watches.

>>13560691
I'm fat and I have 7.5" wrists and a 36mm Datejust looks fine on me. In fact I prefer ~37mm for time/date only watches.

Good morning wt

>>13560606
You are very cool

>>13560693
Yea I'm sure you think it looks great.
Other people seeing it probably think you're wearing a girl's watch.

>>13560708
Stop projecting your own insecurities onto other people. Normies don't notice watches, even Rolexes, and I've never had a normie notice or comment on my watch. Only people who have ever noticed my watch were watch enthusiasts or dealers who would all be familiar with classical sizing for men's watches.

This one is also 36mm. Again, looks perfectly fine.

>>13560693
>>13560711
post full flannel collection

>>13560711
Literally what insecurities?
I've had many people comment positively on my watches. Annoyingly the most commented on one is this shitty Nixon I wear as a beater.

>>13560664
>Even 38mm is kind of big I think
Wtf

>>13560693
It would look fine if you wore it on your wrist and not on your wrist bone.

>>13560711
Some of what you say here is completely wrong. Assuming you speak the truth about where you live, then I guess it's something about Canada which makes people care less about watches. In Europe *literally* everyone will know Rolexes when they see them (up close so they can see the dial), and most care to some degree about watches, certainly enough to notice if someone wear a too small watch. Not that I think your 36mm is too small, I agree with you that it looks fine. I just find it very funny that some people ITT repeats how little they believe normies care or know about watches, when they in fact care a lot about watches (in a /fa/-sense of it, not so much in a /g/-sense)

>>13560625
TIMEX Marlin

>>13560738
(You)

>>13560747
I've never in my life seen a normie notice or care about a watch someone else was wearing in public other than a Submariner.

>>13560753
Guess that's just Canada then.
Here normies who hang out together will compliment each other's watches, let's say that someone you know got themselves a new watch. And they'll be complimenting each other's watch like, "hey new watch? it's nice" "I've got this one, I bought it last year" "oh, cool, it's nice" or whatever. If you wear a rockstar like a Rolex - any rolex - then they will 99% of the times notice it, and certainly comment on it because it's rolex. Some will deliberately not comment on it because they think you're a snob or show-off, but will talk about it behind your back later (because they did of course notice)

Post windyknob watches set to current date and time

>>13560753
>(You)
"lol I want to wear it on my wrist bone so everyone will see it ok? stop commenting on it because I will never stop wearing my watches on the wrist bone, here have a non-(you)"

I wish this thread was more /fa/ and less /g/.

What kind of /fa/ outfits suit the Speedy pro?

post windy knobs set to current date

>>13560770
My watch straps are *visibly* behind my wrist bone in most of my wrist shots, because I wear my watch straps just behind my wrist bone.

So here is your last (You) on the subject.

>>13560826
this is the most /fa/ photo anyone has

it's teen nubile lithe girls one wearing an f91w on her young wrist

>>13560826
You realize that Speedmaster Professionals are overwhelmingly purchased by dad-core boomers right?

>>13560473
Patrick?

>>13560328
Is that a 16610 NOOB? Looks pretty fake just from the picture.

My local AD has a Tudor GMT Pepsi available on the steel bracelet. Should I do it?

>>13560831
It's clearly ON your wrist bone, and there is a lot of watch in front of your wrist bone as the blue line will indicate.

>>13560831
>>13560875
File

>>13560581
anyone?

>>13560844
What is a "dad-core boomer"?

>>13560858
No. Noobs are in the hundreds of dollars and are almost indistinguishable from photos.

Recommend me the dopest 80s digital watch.

>>13560892
A word used by r9k incels about successful people.

reminder windy is fat and in his late 30s and he is giving his cum to this child horologist

>>13560922
deep inside!

>>13560922
broken teen requirements:
>love
windy gives it
>money
boomer with a job, he has it
>dick
he has enough of it

>>13560581
overpriced chinese movement watches

Tactical tier

>>13560903
>>13560922
she's cute!

>>13560922
She’s a lot prettier than I thought she would be

>>13558808
>Yes because it's akin to spending $150,000 on a Kia.
It's more like spending the equal money for a Kia Stinger GT rather than an Audi A5 because you knew better than to listen to your dumbass friends

>>13560875
>>13560879
Perhaps look into how camera lenses and parallax work.

I wear my watch straps entirely behind my wrist bone. If you define this as "on the wrist bone" then virtually every wrist shot on the internet has the watch "on the wrist bone" by that (absurd) definition.

Now I know why /wt/ was banned from /g/ - what a bunch of losers.

>>13560981
This picture is much better. But you don't normally wear it that far back. You wear it further up on your hand normally. I've noticed.

>>13560991
Yes, I do.

Cameraphone fisheye lens distortion and camera parallax are why it doesn't look like it in some pictures, because my primary concern when I take a wrist shot is to get a good shot of the watch face with minimal crystal glare, and not to emphasize that the watch strap is entirely behind my wrist bone.

>>13560443
>>13560439
Its a KS45 45-7001. I am just not sure about the watch face quality it has a few marks up the top. I am ready to pull the trigger if this is a good bargain, haven't seen anything this cheap in the market yet.

>>13561004
I understand your points and believe you completely. Regardless, you need to go on a diet and exercise more fatty.

>>13560987
Hows that so?

>>13561015
Look at all this windy shit for starters. The /g/ thread just ended up full of spammers and trolls.

>>13561021
There are a couple of perma-trolls who are well into crazy-stalker territory with /wt/ and who have nothing better to do with their lives than spend day after day shitting up this general.

Its literally 2 or 3 people total, going back well over a year.

>>13560922
>>13560903
who is windy ?

>>13561028
>There are a couple of perma-trolls who are well into crazy-stalker territory with /wt/ and who have nothing better to do with their lives than spend day after day shitting up this general.
Yeah right, show us some proof then?

>>13561040
The archives have everything you need. Beadposting, BLACKED, and general spam all coming from a couple dedicated shitposters. MD5 doesn't lie, at least until he took the time to change every individual picture to bypass filters.

>>13560922
She looks like a sloppy Jodie Foster.
Wouldn’t mind having one.

>>13560953
i like the barz

>>13560922
...what?

>>13560931
>>13560922
>>13560903
Who the fuck is windy and is that really a child?

I think I made a terrible mistake.
I'm afraid to go pick it up.

>>13561036
>>13561070
She is more child than not tbqh

>>13561081

>>13561081
Dont be afraid. I own a Seiko cal. 7t42 150m wr and love it.

>>13560868
Anyone?

>>13558531
pure autism

>>13560868
>>13561093
It's really big and tall, personally I'd pass unless they made a BB58 sized version.

>>13560953
G-Shock Riseman reporting.

Does anyone have any recommendations for odd, but still visually pleasing watche faces? I want something that stands out, but not obnoxious or cringey. Pic related. Invicta has some cool, untraditional stuff.

>>13561093
do you like it?
cuz nobody here cares if you buy it or don’t buy it
t.b.h you seem pretty weak for asking

Anyone have any suggestions or direct product links to a bezel for my 8296ob FFF mod? Really struggling to find one. I'd ideally like a gold accented 15 30 45 but anything that isn't sub style 0-20 notches only would work

>>13561150
bezel insert I mean

>>13561004
Honestly, to me it seems like you need to put it further back on your wrist. If you are indeed being truthful about your wristbone, then I think you still need to put your watch a little bit further back anyway.

Ignore this guy, it's not me >>13561008

>>13561156
That's right, it isn't you, it's me. He is fat as fuck and needs to lose some weight, will make his weak watch pics look much better.

I haven't been in the threads for a while but what happened to the one that used to be on /g/?

>>13561166
One of the new mods suddenly decided we belong in fa and enacted his law pretty ruthlessly

Theres a good discord open, a lot of guys just post there now.

>>13561166
Tudorfag and the few other permatrolls/spammers managed to shit up /wt/ so much that lazy prick /g/ mods force moved the threads here so they wouldn't have to deal with the crazy stalkers anymore.

>>13561148
Very alpha response

My watch is on the plane I cant fucking wait!
Recommend me a strap for it, I wear a M65 almost daily so I will feel too autistic wearing an olive drab strap

>>13561169
>>13561171
That's crazy, although I can understand why they did it. By the time I stopped going to the thread it was pure garbage. The shilling was out of control

>>13561169
Discord link?

What is it with watches that make people troll this general for years?

>>13561191
https://discord.gg/8SZkN8

>>13561179
Should have just APOLOGIZEd when you had the chance fuckers, now you are doomed because of your own shortcomings and stubbornness.

>>13561216
Ironically, by incentivizing us to make a Discord, you have done more to assure the continuing existence of this community of watch nerds than anyone else in the history of /wt/.

Thanks.

>>13561173
you know... i’m sorry if i seem like a cunt, but i was just being honest

>>13561235
aaaannnndd there’s the beta on time

>>13561209
Can all /g/ migrate over there and leave pls?

>>13561294
No

>>13561300
Ok :(

>>13560835
More of the girl on the right please Windy.

>>13561216
Your grandma had no taste and neither do you. She also made a mistake not getting that abortion.

>>13560826
This.

>>13561224
You are welcome my friend. A spam and shiy free environment is what I wantes all along.
You mind if I join the discord?

>>13561216
Your grandmother's watch is still shit, I'm glad she's dead.

>>13561369
Chuckled.

Picture of some of my stuff. I should really do a full collection picture one of these days but I never get around to it.

>inb4 Rado fashion watch
Was a gift, and it has quite a fair bit of sentimental value.

>>13561383
What's the cushion/trench/whatever watch in front?

>>13561383
I don't have a problem with Rado. Sure they just use ETA movements like most low-tier mechanical fashion watches but at least they do interesting things with materials and case designs.

Nice Rolex turn-o-graph btw.

>>13561383
Nothing wrong with Rado mate.

>>13561396
That's what I really like about Rado was well, they have some cool experimental case designs. I'm hoping to get a Purple Horse as well one day, but I'm waiting for the right case design and dial variation to show up. Missed out on one recently and I'm a wee bit bummed out about it but there must be a reason I didn't get it is my attitude.

Thanks for the compliment too Anon, it's a Rolex 1501, which means it isn't a turn-o-graph. Turn-o-graphs are pretty rad watches for sure though.
>>13561388
It's a Tudor from the 1930's, here's a closer pic for you my dude.
>>13561407
Thanks man, a few people have gone full-autist over my Rado in older threads, hence the reason why I felt the need to point that out.

>>13561419
doh, ofc it's a 1501. I have one of those in 24ct yellow gold so I should have looked closer. Great vintage watch, shame about the lack of a quick set date though.

>>13561445
>I have one of those in 24ct yellow gold
Absolutely love gold watches, post pics if you can Anon. Really awesome watch you got there. I just prefer steel with gold accents myself. Feel like it just fits me better for some reason.
>shame about the lack of a quick set date though
God, tell me about it, but then again, I wear two watches a lot of the time anyway, so the chances of the thing stopping are slim to none.

>>13561482
Here you go, don't mind the dirt I forgot to clean it first.

>>13561487
That's a fine shitter anon.

>>13561487
Really nice watch Anon, good choice with leather too. Suits gold way more than a bracelet would in a lot of cases. Nicest dial colour for that case variation too in my opinion.

>>13561512
Agreed. I have all my vintage gold watches on leather though I think I should switch that one onto a brown strap.

>>13561525
Something like this. Not my pic but I have this exact same watch in the same condition but on black leather.

Who likes my recently copd hamilton scuba?

>>13561369

>>13561571
Me
Hate that date position tho

What you guys think of this Nixon Supremecy? It has an ETA 2824-2 movement and is 40mm.

>>13561571
Do you kiss your mother with that dirty watch, Anon?
Clean it.

>>13561596
>noon = 3
Jesus Christ those Swiss are a bunch of animals.

New thread where?

>>13561208

it's really the only acceptable form of male jewelry

>>13561617
Here.
>>13561662
>>13561662
>>13561662
>>13561662

>>13561216
This.

>>13559623
They look nice but from what I've heard they're not much more than that.