/fa/ - Fashion

>>13501579
Solovairs are the best boots

>>13501594
fuck off shill

>>13501579
get someting non-leather, save some cows. maybe vegetarian shoes, or these altercores . .

>>13501579
those look good

>>13501579
none. get white's boots

nothing will ever beat worn out cherry red

>>13501579
I got a pair of full matte black dr.martens and a pair of red wing blacksmiths in copper.


Get RedWings, they are so much nicer looking.

>>13501816
bait

these are coming to my house tomorrow
hell yea

>>13501579
I just bought 1460 mono smooth's

In my country only women wear docs.

>>13502062
troll

>>13501579
Dead stock Royal mail made in UK.
Best quality and classic.
Everything else is retarded af.

>>13501579
I got this exact pair and I like em

>>13501579
mono 1461 is the only correct answer

>>13502591
mono 1461 is also the essential 2015 summerfag shoe

>>13502609
it easily looks the best in most outfits therefore is the correct answer to OP's question. Good luck pulling off 1460 if youre older than 18.

>>13501802
>not wanting high quality boots

ok get gripfast then ya fuckin poser

>>13502227
cool

>>13501579
Pre-2003 DMs or Solovair?

I have a pair of size UK9/EU43 1490s, of course made in China so the quality hasn't really been up there.

I want a new pair of high black boots with a similar silhouette to 14-eyelet DMs, and I have two choices. Either a pair of Dr. Martens 1914s (14 eyelets, soft toe-cap) made in England in the 70s, or a brand new pair of Solovairs own 14i, steel-toe capped model. Both boots are of course made in Britain, the DMs have only seen light use (the tread is still almost perfectly intact and the leather has only few marks from light use around the toe cap and the calves) and the Solovairs are, well, new. Both boots have hi-shine-uppers and a standard, low-profile tread.

Which pair should I go with? The seller for the DMs provided me with inner and outer measurements of the sole, and apparently the old size UK10/EU45 is the same in lenght (inner and outer) as my pair of China-made UK9/EU43. The boots are lenghty enough, but a bit on the wide side (1cm or so), and I've thought about just adding some thick insole and boot socks to compensate for that extra space. With the Solovairs I'd need to compensate for the steel-toe cap but I already have the measurements made from another pair of steel-toed Solovairs I have in my cabinet.

The real question lies with the myth about vintage Docs lasting forever: do they? Some say the quality gradually gave away after they became sort of an alternative fashion-item in the 80s and 90s, and that only the earlier pairs are actually any good. If this is true, would going with a brand new pair be better? Does anyone happen to have any experience with actual vintage Docs vs. Solovair?

>>13502227
Doesn't narrow it down.

They're made like shit from cheap leather now. Nothing left but the name. Good options depend on the country you live in

>>13504273
Vintage docs do hold up well. But at this point its just better to buy the new solovair.

i've bought an used made in england pair, but i'm suspecting its fake, is there any guide to spot fake made in england ones? Or its the same as the regular ones?

moving to Portland in a month, anyone got some ideas for weather-appropriate boots or shit I should avoid?

>>13501594
>>13504040
>>13504273
>>13504287
Stop the soloshit shilling.

I fell for the meme and bought soloshits after having owned mono docs for about 2 years. The leather, sole and overall construction is exactly the same. It's literally the same shoe, including the cheap, thin trash leather. The only difference is that Docs are stiffer initially because they coat the leather with a thicker plastic than soloshit. (it's literal plastic btw)

Also on the pair I got, they forgot to weld the fucking sole ends together. (pic related) There is simply no excuse for this. There's a guy on reddit who's sole split after 2 weeks of wear, among the many other stories.

TL;DR: Solovair is the exact same shoe as made in Asia docs, just worse quality control.
INB4 "B-but... it's made by white p-people.."

>>13505286
Which pair did you buy?

Can a dude pull off Docs on the west coast of the USA?

>>13505351
The 11-eye derby in black. It's the one on the pic. Let me guess. You're aiming for damage control, saying that it's only the leather on that specific shoes that's trash and the other variants are far superior, right?

>>13505376
Your guessing is wrong.I don't own any solovair,but I'm planning on doing so,the reviews I read are very mixed,some people absolutely love em,while others despise them.Shit thing is I can't order Red Wings that everyone suggests.

>>13502007
Redwings are a lot bulkier aren't they anon?

>>13505529
They are generally more bulky but there are models like the 4473

>>13502167
basedcore

>>13505855
mods changing basedcore to basedcore
hmmmmmmmm

>>13505286
Kek yeah right

>>13505286
>gets a bad pair and shits on the company
>recommends a worse company

The absolute state of effay

>>13505286
>among the many other stories

Proof?

>>13506475
This

>>13506480
you need proof? what are you a nigger?

>>13506471
>>13506475
>>13507759
>>13506480
>dat damage control
soloshit employees working overtime

I see doc martens marketing team is in overdrive. People always shill solo's but this much doc posting? Jesus it's like they found out people were talking behind their back.

>>13505376
do you have any recommendations for black derbies with a heavy sole that are remotely in the same budget? 300 max? or do they just not come that cheap
i look man, but i cain't find em. i always ask around
appreciate the help

>>13505372
Not only can he, but he should if he wants to feel the warm sand on his feet. And then three needles, two condoms, and a big pile of excrement, of course, but he might get lucky.

Are you in the hot part? What look do you want? Have you considered milsurp jungle boots instead to help with sweat?

>>13502167
Id?

>>13502609
Out of date makes it even better. Using the correct shoe at the right time is fucking gay

>>13510684
Dr Martens Pascal Decon
sorta sold out everywhere now, but you can nab a new pair on ebay

>10 feels too big
>9 is a bit too small

Do I just get the 9's and hope they stretch?

>>13505250
Get some Thorogoods and put on some waterproof wax

>>13512164

pls help

>>13512164
Personally I'd get a 10. You can probably find insoles or some shit to make it fit a bit better.

I say better to get a shoe that's too a bit big than too small.

>>13501816
W2c?

>>13512377
Wrong, when it comes to leather shoes IMO. I always buy pairs that fit j u s t right or a bit too small even, so that after a few weeks of consistent wear they end up 100% perfect fitting to my feet. Once I bought a desert boot (inb4 reddit) which was so small that I almost cried at the end of the first day, but right now it fits like a glove and it conformed beautifully to every retarded curvature of my feet.

>>13512467
I see.
I'm not actually experienced with leather shoes but I was going off what I know from wearing regular shoes/sneakers.

>>13512534
Synthetic materials don't stretch and mold to your feet like leather, so in that case you are right.

I own a pair of Redwing Iron Rangers in Amber Harness (8111) and they're the comfiest, toughest, best looking shoes I've ever bought.
But I'm also still learning to be /fa/ so there may be comfier boots out there.

IR 8111's look amazing in some dark denim.

>>13512638
Fucccccc these are so good. Forgot my pic

>>13512638
Are they good for icy ground? I's give my left nut for a pair of those exact boots but they always seem so smooth and slick on the bottom. I could justify it if they are actually practical for cold snowy, icy days on the street. Otherwise there are boots half the price that would be a lot more practical for my needs.

>>13512638
If anyone gets these in charcoal don't use mink oil they basically turn black

>>13501816
>vegetarian shoes
you're not supposed to eat shoes silly!

ah, this is probably better suited in this thread than the w2c

I got a big asos voucher for my birthday and the choice of docs are limited there, here's the best two

Mono-8's or Talib Zips?

>>13505286
if Docs are shit and Solos are shit what boots do you recommend, shoe guy?

>Power, Corruption and Lies on a shoe
christ I was I was bold enough

>>13513008
left

>>13513020
tfw i want this pair and the unknown pleasures pair but cant justify dropping £300 on shoes

hey guys I'm a UK 8.5 and it's a nightmare

anyone with more normal feet able to tell me if your docs are slightly too tight or slightly too wide? Need to know whether to get an 8 or 9

>>13513008
Right, the left ones are to normie

>>13512644
salsa on these boots?

>>13512841
It depends. Some of them have perfectly flat soles which is fucking terrible obviously. They've started making them with the vibram soles which are supposedly not bad but I haven't tried them on ice yet.

Is it better to let my solovairs get a lil beat up or keep them pristine?

how is the sizing for docs? do they run tts?

>>13513896
size up if you got wide feet

>>13513844
Iron Ranger 8111

>>13512644
Dadcore/10

>>13513020
im not but copped them anyway

>>13510096
>unironically suggesting GI Jungle Boots
Kys, there are a thousand better choices for jungle boots that have the same style, but won't be low quality trash that hurts to wear.

I dont know anything about boots but I was thinking about buying 1460. Are they a good entry level choice?

>>13501816
lol what a fag. the smell of real leather is the absolute best. btw fuck the cows and the horses

Are Clark's boots any good for skinny niggas like me, or are they clown shoes

>>13515913
Damn what are these? Looks sexy.

>>13512853
>don't use mink oil they basically turn black
There's no reason to use mink oil on anything except perhaps some specific types of leather.
Fucking shoe shops and shitty cobblers and online faggots recommending fucking mink (which 99% isn't even real mink oil, but a cheapo substitute).

All conditioning materials cause some darkening, that has to be taken into account when you choose a color.
Leather gets darker, not lighter, with use and maintenance.
It's the reason why I tend to the lighter leathers now because darks (not counting black, obviously) just become a muddy bland color in the end.

Conditioning, and, maybe, if you live in a region where it's needed, extra waterproofing. That shit's rough, though, and will defo darken your shit up.
Obenauf's, heavy duty.
Snoseal has silicon so I don't think it's good for long term use on stuff you want to keep "forever". I thought snoseal waterproofing was for shit used by professionals that change their footwear annually or whatever.

>>13512644
I've always liked IR's.
Amber's are decent standard model. Leather's neither here nor there. Not super stiff, but not super pliable.
However, it's the copper ruff tuff model that is where it's at.

8115? Anyway, the leather has more give, and so is mildly more forgiving during break-in (though not as easy as the muleskinner suede model).

Best thing about copper rough and tough is the insta-patina oil displacement shit as soon as you take one step. It's great. And, since they're lighter than the amber harness, there's a darkness buffer that you can take into account when adding any product to them.

I've seen too many pices of amber harness IR's turned into a bland, muddy dark on mfa or wherever.
It's fucking horrible and stupid.
There's no need to overdo conditioning and sealing.
Shit, the sealing isn't needed at all unless you live near the arctic circle or whatever and the usual products shilled on leddit and the like are absolute overkill for "fashion" boots.

>>13512467
>I always buy pairs that fit j u s t right or a bit too small even
Small as in width, not small as in length, surely.
Leather stretches outwards, as you say to match every curve etc. (well, some leathers do). But if you buy a shoe that's too short, then you're going to have a bad time.

It's especially bad when the shoes/boots you have have a hardened toebox, hardened 99.99% of the time with a thermoplastic. Your toes aren't going to budge that.

>>13512534
Keep in mind that, with decent shoemaking brands, numerical size means absolutely nothing by itself.
There's numerical size, yes, there's also width (american traditional shoemakers seemingly have a bazillion different widths from skinny to ultra fattt elephant pod) and there's the last, ie the shape the shoe is based on. Traditional makers will have multiple lasts amongst their models. Sneaker makers do too, but it's less important because of the forgiving nature of a sneaker's fit.

If you foot doesn't agree with the last shape then a favorable numerical size and width won't help. I know this all too well and have a pile of costly fucking shoes I can't fucking wear because I realized all too late that the lasts didn't work with my feet well.

That's the beauty of the sneaker: they're soft enough that they allow virtually any foot shape to slide in with basically instant comfort.

>>13517369
dr martens eldritch orleans in buttersctoch

>>13501579
got a pair of those and a black pair, I wore those fuckers while doing some trail in New Hampshire

>>13517886
they're not exactly ideal hiking boots
shit they're not ideal anything except as a fashion boot
how did your feet hold up in the end?
were the boots fucked afterwards?

>>13513259
Go for the smaller size

What is the consensus on Timberlands?

>>13518491
wack cheap highschool tier. Unless you're some black guy from new york, don't

>>13513259
I am an 8.5 US and size 8 US in docs and most boots are my go too. Only blundstones have ever been too tight.

>>13519172
What is this black guy Timberland thing? I don't think this stereotype exists in the UK.

>>13519607
Niggas love timbos bro

>t. black man

>>13519612
Lol I look good in Timbs so I'm going to keep on wearing them despite my fucking elf-like skin complexion.
I legit cannot imagine a black guy in Timbies.

>>13519624
I mean there are better boots you can get that look like timbs but if it works it works

>>13519624
>i look good in timbs

>>13519624
You Britbongs are something else. 90s and early 2000s Hip Hop dominated Timbs. Everyone from the ghettos wore timbs. White and Black, Hispanic, Asian. If you lived in a ghetto you probably owned Timbs. But now they are kinda just worn by Blacks.

>>13519636
Lol.
>>13519638
Weird.