/fa/ - Fashion

post a better watch you can't

>>13483507
HOLD IT

>>13483507

Wait is this for real?
I'm gone for a few days and we're legit /fa/gs now?
What happened?

>>13483516
temporary refuge.

>>13483512
triggers my trypophobia desu

>>13483507

>>13483512
Concave dials make my peepee the big peepee

Ok I guess I'm just done with these threads now. Fuck /fa/

>>13483517
But why? One of the retard mods go nuts? New janitor?

>>13483518
Imagine taking a big buttery hot bite outta that

>>13483522
t. cucked by a well-dressed man

My current collection.

>>13483518
damn i wanna pick at that with a tiny metal spoon so hard

What's the best watch for $250 dollaridoos?

>>13483575
f-91w

>be a poorfag
>find a diver I really like that won't cost me and arm and a leg
>48mm case
goddammit

i know large watches are popular these days, but about how big a wrist do i need for this not to look disgustingly awkward?

>>13483600
7.5in, give or take.

What steel cases digital watches are out there?
That and what square g-shock is best under $150 aka not a 5000 35th

>>13483533
t. Pic

>>13483600
just get an skx013 if ur okay w/ misaligned lume and chapter rings

>>13483525
A dedicated spammer ruined it for everyone. Shat up every thread with beadpics and reported them until mods deleted or moved them to /fa/. He was quite proactive and was at it constantly. Mods are weak pussies and instead of doing something about one poster they nixed the entire general.

Note that /wt/ is targeted but the headphone general has no problems despite arguably being less technological than watches.

>>13483657
Also he has chased away legitimate posters

>>13483657
At any time there are a dozen non technology related threads or request threads on /g/. Which is explicitly against the thread rules.
A thread about watches is obviously a step too far.

Holy fucking shit Seiko watches are finished like dogshit, I'm so glad I'm not so poor I have to wear a Seiko.

>>13483538
The middle one?

>>13483575
depends what your interest are

You care about automatic vs quartz?
Style?
Are you a wristlet?
>>13483750
then you can afford a grand seiko for good quality

>>13483588
/thread

>>13483507

>>13483823
prefer automatic, if quartz it has to be special like a small second chrono or something. 42mm is my max case size

>>13483588
no u

>>13483623
>what square g-shock is best under $150
GW-M5610

looks like the /g/ watch thread is gone for good

it was a nice run guys

>>13483940
Hasn't anyone tried to make a new one there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDfde-nmtKg

>>13483968
I was super into this until he showed the finished product and it looked like fucking garbage in terms of finishing.

I am picking up some new glasses soon and saw this casio recently. I dont think I have ever heard of people trying make their eye wear mesh well with their watch but do you think it would compliment it?

>>13483984
Wait, what were you expecting from something that is worth about 100 bucks?

>>13483987
It's a dumb idea, nobody will ever notice such a subtle matching.

>>13483990
wasnt really counting on it or buying the glasses based on the watch as they are already bought. was just considering it since I was sorta looking for a watch to wear. I would actually rather it stay as subtle as possible.

>>13483623
There’s not many.

>>13483940
take it to /qa/. Tell them some nigger kept spamming a general that's been running for 5 years and the gay mods won't do their job

>>13483944
Yes, several times. It either gets deleted or moved to /fa/. Seems like the /g/ mods can't be bothered to clean up the general and would rather just get rid of it.

>>13484044
Pladtic buttons plastic buttons!

>>13484090
He said steel case.
May have to go vintage bro.

>>13484090
Nothing wrong with plastic buttons.

>>13484127
Imagine actually buying this watch.

>>13484128
I don’t have to, senpai.

>>13484132
>also has a shitter rolex

TOPKEK

>>13484141

>>13484124
Now this is haute horology

>>13484141
You're a shitty bait.
I bet that you don't even have a watch.

>>13484188
Got it for £10 from a market. It’s from 1977.

>tfw roomba vacuum threads are allowed on g but not watch threads

>>13484124
Vintage is the easiest way into steel cased digitals.

>>13483755
My Waltham Selfwinding 25 Jewels. AKA The Dexter Morgan watch. Got it for a bargain at $500.

Did a review on it here.
https://youtu.be/fKaX9n0H1x8

>>13484141
Bigger one please look at my size.

>>13483502
why is the g shock

>>13484207
How do you know its from 77? I have my doubts about that, definitely late 70s or early 80s though.

>>13484272
Are you on the discord?

>>13484283
so expensive ?
(somehow didnt type this)

>>13484287
Expensive? G-Shocks?
They start from literally 40 bucks (dw-5600)

>>13484207
How fast/slow do old Seiko Penis Quartzs change day and date?

>>13484132
Nice Rolex; hideous useless Seiko no matter what TGV says. Because thats TGVs influence over 9000.

>>13483538
Godlike

>>13484185
>south park references

turbo pleb

Stowa is being delivered tomorrow

cop?
t.poorfag crossboarder

>>13484356
I really dislike these timexes because I see them splayed over a rack on walmart

get a seiko or orient

>>13484356
great choice for poorfags
>>13484357
so no actual criticism of the watch then

>>13484359
they are bottom feeding cheap and are associated with cheap people if that doesn't bother you then go ahead

>>13484361
literally no one cares about your watch. Maybe the odd insecure middle class person looking for a dick measuring contest such as yourself

>>13484286
I have joined it but I've not been in for a while. Why?

>>13483507
>paying $10k for an oversized, colorful, Valjoux 7750 shitter

>>13483600
Yeah, it's really too bad since the BN0150 / 0151 are easily the best tool divers under $200 if you don't mind quartz.

>>13483623
Could try and dig up a Seiko SBPG001.

>>13484141
>Rolex
>shitter
Words have meanings, idiot.

>>13484392
>explorer
>not a shitter
kys

>>13484398
HI Rakesh.

>>13484392
dont take obvious bait, friend.

Seiko 5 on NATO strap checking in

>>13484406
>the plainest watch known to man
>not a shitter

>>13484410
SNZF17?

I can’t stand steel watch bands, what can I replace this with?
I was thinking one of those striped nato straps but I don’t like how those have to loop around.
I don’t want it to look tacky or anything though
(The face is dark blue)

>>13484406
I was just poking him to confirm it was the ChinkBay faggot.

>>13483940
>>13483522
>>13483516
we also have this
dis-cord.gg/nX3B2Sv

>>13484468
The styling of that watch would suit a leather strap better than a NATO. Colareb and Watch Gecko have some value priced blue leather straps you should check out.

>>13484468
Perlon strap, it's a one piece so no looping and they are pretty comfy. Here's one on my Seiko 5.

>>13484367
Just wondering how many of the people I recognize are there.

>>13484473
>>13484477
Cheers guys
How do you go about removing the steel band? Or should I just take it to a jeweller and ask them

>>13484485
If you have to ask then take it to a jeweler and ask to watch, they can show you. it is fairly simple.

>>13484128
I have my sced023 in the mail too

>>13484485
It's pretty easy but if you're not sure then it's best to take it to a watchmaker/jeweller and get them to do it.

Copped this, does someone have the image of it with brown leather strap?

>>13484563
Yes a Mr G Oogle

>>13484569
Tried, someone here had it

>>13484366
If you don’t care what people think then why are you asking for advice in a watch thread? Fuck off you absolute retard

>>13484286
From googling I only found one source of the year of manufacture. I could definitely be wrong but yea it’s definitely that era.

>>13484331
Dont know actually. When I set it it’s pretty much instant switch so presumably it’s the same when Its running.

>>13484334
Please link to TGV video for this?? Never knew he reviewed it!

>>13483750

you get what you pay for. At the dollar entry amount at seiko 5 levels, your fit and finish wont be top notch of course. However, the movement should be decent.

I encourage you to take a look at Grand Seiko (or even their Seiko offerings around 2-4K). And I don't mean online. Like try to find some Grand Seikos in real life. No videos or pictures do the in person feel justice.

You should aspire to afford a few Grand Seikos or APs, or Rolexes or whatever you like, but you shouldn't shit on "poor" people. Everyone is poor in comparison to someone else.

>>13484611
My Superiors take quite some time to change the date - starting even a little before 9pm.

why is this thread on the most cancerous board? what the fuck happened?

>>13484626
Mods on /g/ are faggots

>>13484359

Not bad. Timex has put out a lot more "trendy" looking options in the last year or so, especially their weekender and fairfield offerings ( I imagine to contest the success companies like MVMT and DW who offer similar construction and styling). I say check this watch out in person before your buy, make sure you like how it is sized for your wrist. Also in person it is easier to see the detail and quality of the dial. Timex's to me always look rather dull and flat but if you like it, that's all that matters.

If you want a simple grab and go watch and you want that timex, go for it. I always like to advise getting a quartz watch if you don't know anything about watches and try an entry level mechanical if you feel like you might get into it. Mechanical watches (namely automatics) annoy non watch people because they need motion and wear to stay alive. They have power reserves and unless you wear them every day to 2 days, usually they will lose power and die thus requiring a full hand wind or motion to restart the engine, so to speak.

reassess your budget and make sure you explore multiple options. I am a large seiko fan myself so I like to recommend Seiko for both quality entry level quartz and mechanical. Take your time and be thoughtful, choose something that speaks to you.

If all this doesn't matter to you, then get the timex and see how you like it! Timex is known for loud ticking though, just as an aside. Best of luck.

>>13483507
>>13483512
>that one 35 year old boomer obsessed about watches
>that one 35 year old boomer that frequently visits a 4chan general

>>13484637

>>13484359
if you're not wearing a mechanical or automatic, the magic is gone, and you might as well just rely on your watch

>>13484642
>might as well rely on your watch
what the fuck, I meant smartphone

>>13484642
>>13484647

Agree. My wife thought I was stupid for paying the amount of money I was on my mechanicals. She started wearing anautomatic Omega her dad gave her and now shes way into it. She said she understands now. Has a couple automatics and we are getting her her own watch box and everything. Feelsgoodman.

>>13484629
RIP /wt/

I'm out for good

>>13484642
> All quartz are technically uninteresting

>>13484663
well obviously there are exceptions

>>13484663
The longines cal 6512 "ultraquartz" was a second-guessing quartz movement developed in-house at longines to advance past the beta 21 that was the first swiss quartz wristwatch movement, developed by ceh during the 1960s. The ultraquartz had a quartz crystal oscillator that vibrated at 9khz, higher than the 8jhz of the beta 21, which longines highlighted extensively in its advertising. The movement was designed with as many analog components as possible, to reduce cost and improve battery life, as integrated circuits were still a large power draw on electric watches at the time. The development of mainstream cmos chips in a few years in wristwatches would ease the power concerns somewhat. The 6512 used an indexing mechansim similar to the Bulova accutron (and the beta 21) to advance the hands, but had a self-correcting feedback loop that constantly compared the frequency of the Reed motor to the frequency of the crystal and adjusted it if necessary.

gonna stick with this until i can afford to upgrade to an oyster perpetual 34 or date 34, probably 5 years?

>>13484671
I really like these mini info blurbs, great idea.

>>13484675
Have you considered not buying a rolex at all?
If you need to save for 5 years in order to buy a rolex, then I imagine you have more important things to spend your money on.

>>13484680
i agree with you. i'm not saving up for it, just presently in grad school.

Best watch ITT coming through

>>13484685
Nice. How much do they run for used? Any tips on finding ones in good condition?

>muh Seiko
>muh Rolex

i want /g/ to leave

>>13484671
Longines described the 6512 as a "cybernetic" watch given its self-correcting nature. The fact is of course that other quartz watches at the time were simply direct-driven and didn't need to be corrected. The logo of the ultraquartz was the symbol of a crystal oscillator. Watch consumers of the 1970s were very tehnology-focused and quartz watches were the most expensive and high-end watches available. Lonines would of course soon move to the stepper motor designs that became ubiquitous as early as the early 1970s.

>>13484683
Alright.

Since we're on /fa/ now, we might as well post our grids, remember to incluce your watch.

>>13484685
Has the quickset for the date broken yet? It's a well known eventuality on the Suwa designed 56xx caliber.

In any case I'm partial to the Daini designed 52xx and 45xx King Seikos.

>>13484695
Keep that shit away from here.
>This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece
Not about your clothes you pathetic faggot

>>13484685
That's a nice seiko but not what I'm into

Since we are /fa/gs now, lets do a watch+shoes thing.
My jdm orient plus black stan smiths

>>13484695
Yeah, here's my grid:

>shirt
Fuck you
>trousers
Fuck you
>jacket
Fuck you
>shoes
Fuck you
>extras
Fuck you
>watch
Pic related.

>>13484708
We're not on /g/ anymore. Every single thread in here can be or is about style. This thread is indeed about the appreciation of the engineering of watches, but it's also about the style. So you go ahead and tell me which attire you think goes with your watch, RIGHT NOW.

>>13484723
And thus /wt/ dies. Enjoy your grAIDS

>>13484693
Here's an example of how longines described the technology behind their watches in the guide that they came with. The scale in the bottom right makes no sense, but they are sure to very prominently highlight their slightly-higher-frequency oscillator compared to the 8khz of the beta 21 and original Seiko astron (which, by this time, I believe had actually moved up to 16khz). It's 8nteresting here that the tuning fork description in the bottom left goes up to 720hz, since the Omega megasonic that ran at 720hz was not released until 1973, three years after the ultraquartz. It's possible the manual is a late version, and the text was updated but not the diagram, although I don't actually think the ultraquartz was made all the way in 1973, being a very short-lived product.

>>>/g/66581422

>>13484733
That's very dramatic my friend.

>>13484701
beautiful

>>13484708
any other brands with similar multiple subdial faces?

>>13484721
as always, wish orient had longer hands

>>13484722
nice strap

>>13484688
I got mine from Yahoo Japan auctions, I find that the ones from there tend to be in better condition than eBay.
>>13484701
Nope! Quickset day and date works flawlessly, I don't think there's an issue with them breaking as long as your careful not to use it between 9pm and 3am.

>>13484740
And this page shows how the 9350hz quartz bar oscillator in the ultraquartz lines up with the 170hz indexing mechanism (obviously, again, not to scale). The "cybernetics" keep the peaks in sync. This isn't really too different from how Seiko spring drive works - two oscillators are measured, and one is corrected to always be locked with the master. Actually, super-high precision time sources use this as well - an atomic clock time source, either rubidium or cesium based, is locked to a 1pps output from a gps.

>>13484760
Derp

>>13484752
Consider the Vaguer Hauers Shi Chen watch. It has a subdial for seconds and a slaved 24 hour hand showing the time using an old Chinese system that split the day into twelve 2-hiur periods based in the zodiac.

>>13484757
>I don't think there's an issue with them breaking as long as your careful not to use it between 9pm and 3am.
There is a plastic component in the quickset mechanism of the Suwa designed 56xx that is prone to shrinking and cracking due to age rather than wear, and thus it basically a matter of time until it fails in every 56xx movement.

For a while someone was manufacturing aftermarket metal replacements, but I'm not sure if they still are.

>>13484762
You can see the bar quartz crystal in the picture there, and more clearly here. The tiny xy-cut tuning fork 32khz quartz shape had not developed yet, but would soon become standard, as it is much smaller, runs at a higher frequency, uses less power, and is easier to tune down to the right frequency. Later in 5he accuracy wars, Omega and citizen would launch watches using an AT1 geometry crystal oscillator cut, which ran at 2.4mhz (Omega) or 4.19mhz (citizen), achieving accuracies as low as 3spy. The AT crystal geometry is much more thermoinsensitive than the xy fork geometry - indeed, citizen's new cal 0100 1spy watch uses an 8.4mhz AT crystal geometry cut.

>>13484470
Discord is for faggots.
No offense /fa/ggots.

>>13484775
The AT cut is also less positionally sensitive than a standard xy fork oscillator - you can see here the positional variance in a 32khz crystal is over +/-2spy, which makes a big difference when targeting low single-digit spy precision. A high-precsion 32kh watch like the Seiko Superiors, rated down to 5spy, would try to orient the crystal inside the watch in a way where common positions would cause the least variance.

>>13484767
Hey mate, are you in the discord? We'll need a watcmaker there.

>>13484685
Currently wearing and

Got a Snowflake coming this week!

Love the Seiko love in this thread

>>13484752
almost every brand has multiple subdial variants

>>13484855
>Absolute class
>Not "pure class my firend"
Gonna fix this when I get home

>>13484675
I have that watch, dropped it 8 months in and everything got fucked up (hands and face). Need to get it fixed at sme point.

It's beautiful and comfier than pricier watches.

>>13484858

>>13484865
I like you

Best diver under $1000?

>>13484975
Doesn't exist unless you want dogshit.

>>13485006
What's the least dogshit diver under $1000?

>this angers and confuses the seiko shitposters

>>13484975
srp77x

>>13485008
SKX007j

>>13485010
you got your wish, you killed /wt/

>>13485022
Surely you can appreciate the fact that the catalog looks much cleaner without some Seiko eyesore shitting it up?

>>13485031
Not him, but why have you made it your life mission to wreck /wt/? I'm just curious.

>>13485033
>>13485031

>>13485036
At least you could give us a candid answer now that you've wrecked our thread.

>>66582702
>GS's have good finishing on the hands and hour markers
Way to not mention the spinning tin disc polishing on the cases, or the intricate alternating brushed/polished/brushed patterns on the cases and bracelets.

Also you're an enormous faggot Rakesh.

>>13485033
>>13485047
Because when he first came to /wt/ over a year ago and acted like a retard he got repeatedly dunked on by every single regular, which made him so angry he has spent ~8 hours a day shitposting /wt/ threads for over a year because to get revenge for how bootyblasted he is.

>>13485033
>>13485047
Because when he first came to /wt/ over a year ago and acted like a retard he got repeatedly dunked on by every single regular, which made him so angry he has spent ~8 hours a day shitposting /wt/ threads for over a year to get revenge for how bootyblasted he got.

>>13485057
how can anyone have that much free time

I mean I don't come on here much but I used to browse /wt/ some just to lurk and I have noticed this guy shitting up this thread for months, does he not have a job? how can he have such little going on in his life that he could spend literally hundreds of hours shitting up a wristwatch general on a tech board i mean wtf lol

i find the whole thing amusing since I don't really care about /wt/ just from the standpoint of how any one person could have that much free time and that little going on in his life

as compensation for reading this pointless post please enjoy this photo of a home made case for a tudor movement I saved a long time ago

>>13485070
>home made case
Oh, cool.

>>13485031
why not /hpg/ as well? Why not YLYL or survey threads? None of those are on topic yet you only shit up /wt/. Quit being butthurt becuase no one praises your dead grandmother's shitty watch.

>>13484693
>>13484740
>>13484760
>>13484762
>>13484775
How is this fashion-related?
Pic related.

>>13485091
oh

>>13485091
>How is this fashion-related?
Reposting watch technology related content:

One of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of mechanical movements is the difference between adjustment and regulation.

Regulation only moves the center point of the spread between the rates the watch runs at in different positions, at different temperatures, at at different extends of mainspring wind, but it does not alter the spreads between those rates.

Instead, it is adjustment that does that. Adjustment involves, at a minimum, manipulating the geometry of the hairspring such that it is in the shape it was designed to operate in (typically flat, but not always), that its coils are spaced concentrically, and that it is centered between the regulating pins (if it is a regulated balance movement).

A good article on the basics of adjustment can be found here:https://www.timekeeperforum.com/forum/threads/adjustment-and-regulation.21105/

It is beyond this baseline, however, that the real skills of adjustment come into play. For free sprung balance movements, the careful setting of the eccentric screws in the balance can simultaneously alter the adjustment and the regulation because they simultaneously affect the poise of the balance wheel and the rate of the balance wheel.

For regulated balances, beyond a basic level, adjustment becomes something of a voodoo art where the deliberate manipulation of the hairspring geometry *out of* the baseline can be used to reduce the effect of different positions, temperatures and levels of wind on the escapement by deliberately misshaping the hairspring in such a way as to anticipate how the hairspring will be affected by those factors. In truth very few watchmakers still do very much of this kind of adjustment on regulated balances, as it is both time consuming and highly skill intensive.

>>13485008
Go through the list of swatch groups and find one with a diver under that price. I think Tissot has one.

>>13485091
High-accuracy timekeeping is often built on numerous time sources that are combined. For example, TAI, the international atomic time, is created using multiple atomic clocks spread through the world, coordinated by gps. In other words, when the US nist atomic clock ensemble thinks it's exactly midnight utc, it sees that gps thinks it's 12ns after midnight, and so reports its offset as -12ns. Other atomic ensembles throughout the world measure their offsets against gps as well and report to TAI. An average of these is (retroactively) published as the official offset of TAI versus gps. In a similar way, cybernetic watches like the longines 6512 or spring drive have multiple oscillators being measured simultaneously (here, given that they're all proximate to each other, there's no need to use gps as the intermediary). But in this case, rather than averaging the oscillators, one is simply governed by another. Similar things are done in the luch 3055 quartz watch with hairspring and bulova 224 accuquartz quartz tuning fork watch.

Some watches do use an averaging technology - the Armin Strom resonance, for example, has two balances that are in a resonant relationship with each other, and a differential averages the rates of the two balances to be used to drive the timekeeping.

>>13485008
On what basis? The best material workmanship in terms of case, dial and bracelet you are going to find below that limit in a mechanical are the Seiko SBDC051 or 053, or a Halios Seaforth.

If you care more about style or need a smallish care maybe consider a Chris Ward Trident, but only if you get it on sale.

>>13484642
I'm pretty sure watches is one of the few technologies where people are tricked into an inferior method and pay far more for the privilege.

Unless the function of a watch is to
stare at polished metal and hairsprings on the back and say "I'm rich"

>>13485140
>Seiko SBDC051 or 053
What's the difference between these?

>>13485150
Color. Seiko does that a lot with model numbers

Got the lil greenface chrono, fun to wear, people like it a lot

Think my next purchase will be an Orient Mako, anyone have opinions on those?

>>13485158
Ok. Why this one instead of SKX?

>>13485096
Are you the guy who posted that? I was joking to highlight the absurdity of wt getting moved to fa. Fuck the mods.
I loved your posts. Early quartz is one of the most interesting times for horology.

>>13485165
Makos are pretty liked here, go for it

>>13485168
The SBDC models have much better external finishing on their cases, bracelets, and dials than an SKX will. They also have a better movement than the SKX.

The SKX is, by necessity, heavily value engineered to be able to priced at $200 and this requires a number of tradeoffs.

Watches are a fashion accessory at the end of the day you fucking stupid /g/ cunts, if someone posts an ugly watch you criticize it because it’s ugly. That’s the main reason you buy a watch, THEN you look at the actual specifications

go back to beating your dicks over pictures of Richard stallman nerds

>>13485184
Reposting watch technology related content:

So to bring some educational content to this thread, if anyone is interested in understanding the differences between a vertical clutch chronograph and a horizontally coupled chronograph, and why vertical coupling is technically superior, this is a great article on the subject:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/chronographs-vertical-and-horizontal-coupling.5539/

>>13485175
I did not post oh. I did post about the fashionable Armin Strom resonance and the longines ultraquartz. The luch 3055 works similarly, but in a non-cybernetic way. The luch watch factory in Belarus asked Moscow for funding to build a quartz watch, seeing the oncoming quartz crisis, but Moscow was reticent. The luch 3055 was a luch 3045 movement with a quartz timing package retrofitted in. The quartz timing package governs an electromagnet which pushes the balance back and forth, which in turn advances an escapement that advances the geartrain. The hairspring is present just as a restoring force but is not involved in timing; the balance operates as a driven oscillator. Some other manufacturers also used a balance and escapement approach to early quartz (timex was the other major one); the early 70s saw a wide variety of quartz timing and escapement mechanisms (like the longines ultraquartz) that did not eventually survive. The Soviet watch market did indeed eventually move to stepper motor quartz.

Just got this casio watch today, I really love the look

>>>66583423

/g/ thread is up, tudor was banned

>>>/g/66583423

>>13485089
Guy has been spamming /hpg/ as well with shitposts.

>>13485182
Oh. So, the only thing the SKX has going for it, really, is that it's sort of iconic or has a cult following?

>>13485276
Well, if you want a functional ISO compliant mechanical diver for a $200 budget, the SKX is the only choice. Even at $300 budget, all the ISO mechanical divers are Seiko models. It's just that the SKX was designed specifically to be able to be priced in that $200 bracket.

The Omega megasonic uses a "micromotor" in a sealed box to index the movement of the tuning fork. Unlike most indexing mechanisms found in watches of the period (including the accutron and the beta 21 and longines quartz movements mentioned above), the megasonic has two fingers actually advancing the wheel (they take turns).

>>13485288
The wheel in the box has a set magnets implanted in it, and when it turns the magnets turn a wheel outside the box, which is also permanently magnetized, which then advances the gear train. This is what makes diassembling a megasonic like defusing a bomb; touching these wheels with any metal part can permanently demagnetize and ruin them (and also you should obviously never use a demagnetizer on this watch).

>>13485296
>This is what makes diassembling a megasonic like defusing a bomb
Did the accutron have a similar set up with magnets to advance the gear train?

>>13485220
lol mods seething

>>13485296
fotoplot's excellent tuning fork watch page has a diagram of the magnetic gearing stack. Note that the model micromotor does not appear to have the banking springs that he refers to that are present in the real micromotor.

>>13485285
Doesn't citizen have a good one in that price range? Also, are these watches ACTUALLY good for diving?

>>13485311
Not at all. The accutrons have the index finger that advances the index wheel attached directly to the tuning fork, and moves back and forth when the fork moves to index the wheel. On the other hand this means 5he index wheel is an exposed part, as opposed to locked in a micromotor box, and is easily destroyed. The tuning fork index wheels of the 1960s and early 70s may be among the very most precisely machined parts in the world up to that date. To this day the method of creating the accutron index wheels is a trade secret. Here you can see the index fingers indexing the wheel in an accuquartz 224 (essentially a quartz-governed accutron 218, mentioned above, and largely parts-compatibke with the 218, including the index wheel).

>>>/g/66584053

>>13485316
>fotoplot's excellent tuning fork watch page has a diagram of the magnetic gearing stack. Note that the model micromotor does not appear to have the banking springs that he refers to that are present in the real micromotor.
this is not fashion

please stop talking about technology on /fa/

>>13485323
yeah but its quartz.
and not really. if you're diving for realsies you're gonna be using a dive computer

>>13485330
The attachment of the index finger to the tuning fork made the accutron very shock sensitive. If the fork was shocked, it could cause the finger to advance the wheel several steps, leading to impriper time keeping. When the swiss ESA micements maker hired max hetzel, who designed the accutron, to design them a second-gen tuning fork movement, the fork was made more symmetric and the placement of the index finger was moved to a point in the fork that was less shock sensitive. This had the added benefit of greatly reducing the positional variance of the watch. The resulting esa9162 movement was widely used, including by longines, Omega, tissonic, baume and Mercier, and others.

>>13485346
fuck off to /g/ techfags

not /fa/ related

and take that stud windyknob and his lithe sexy nubile teen haram with you

>>13485353
harem

>>13485341
>if you're diving for realsies you're gonna be using a dive computer
What.. I know you mean divers prefer modern equipment. But earlier they used actual watches. That's what I mean, do these watches actually take those depths with a smile or is it just for show?

>>13485353
hilariously too large for your feminine wrist

>>13485353
>tfw /wt/ doesn't belong in either /g/ or /fa/ now.
What will become of this general?

>>13485356
If they're ISO certified then they should be able to take those depths alright.

>>13485346
The coils on an accutron are also super fragile and are often damaged and go open-circuit, requiring replacement (since no one really wants to do the work to re-wind them with replacement wire). In fact, this is a major issue with the Slava Transistor, a clone of the accutron produced by the Soviets. You can tell this one is a franken, with the coils replaced by Bulova coils, because the holder is green instead of red. Original Slava could in working condition are extremely rare. Slava eventually gave up on producing this watch because the vibration from the nearby subway made it impossible to produce the index wheels I mentioned earlier with the needed precision.

>>13485358
>hilariously too large for your feminine wrist
um it's called STYLE

get with the times

>>13485362
Does it have helium escape valve?

Finally managed to get this little cunt to start keeping time correctly. Will post some pics of my other watches if anyone is interested.

What's everyone else wearing today?

>>13485365
>The coils on an accutron are also super fragile and are often damaged and go open-circuit, requiring replacement (since no one really wants to do the work to re-wind them with replacement wire). In fact, this is a major issue with the Slava Transistor, a clone of the accutron produced by the Soviets. You can tell this one is a franken, with the coils replaced by Bulova coils, because the holder is green instead of red. Original Slava could in working condition are extremely rare. Slava eventually gave up on producing this watch because the vibration from the nearby subway made it impossible to produce the index wheels I mentioned earlier with the needed precision.
THIS IS NOT FASHION RELATED

ON TOPIC POSTS ONLY PLZ

>>13485372
It is WATCH related, you absolute MORON.
Yeah, we get it, you like watches for the purpose of fashion, but in this WATCH general, everything related to watches is relevant. And what makes these fashion pieces tick is absolutely relevant.

>>13485316
And a close-up of the real micromotor. You can just barely make out the spring in the left and right of the wheel, and can see the jewels on the end of the index fingers. The individual teeth on desu wheel, which are extremely small, are invisible in this image. The wheel, which is less than 2mm in diameter, has 180 teeth in this very fashionable watch.

>>13485378
>Yeah, we get it, you like watches for the purpose of fashion, but in this WATCH general, everything related to watches is relevant. And what makes these fashion pieces tick is absolutely relevant.
NOT RELEVANT YOU KEK

/fa/ only plz, nobody cares about your movement timekeeping faggotry

THIS IS A FASION BOARD

Could someone ID pic related please ? I got it from my father, all I know is that it was bought around 1975.

>>13485389
That is a seiko soiquartz from the luggagelad lineup of the mid 1970s

>3135

>>13485341
It’s fairly typical in my experience to use a dive watch as a backup in case of malfunction. It’s not necessary but I’ve seen many people do it.

>>13485407
> You were close
But the 31xx and 32xx lines are phenomenal, no question. I wish I could get a 3235 in a steel 36mm datejust.

>>13485165
I had a Mako Ray. Great watch for the price. Gave it to my father for him to wear it on the beach.

100% recomend

>>13483635
>misaligned lume and chapter rings
DELET TIHS

>>13484695

>>13485361
We will move to wus

>>13484356
Doesn't really look like a watch a cop would wear desu, most of them wear Gshocks etc

Since we're /fa/ggots now, anyone want to give me a quick run down on how to be /fa/?
Gotta at least try to fit in.

>>13485449
Do one of these /fa/-classics right here: but since this is /wt/ you must include your watch in accessories.

>>13485456
>accessories.
or "extras"

>>13485456
Like what I'm wearing right now?

>>13485407
Yeah, the 3135 is capable of absurdly good timing performance if adjusted and regulated carefully.

>>13485464
Not right now, but something you think represent what you normally wear. Preferably in your everyday wear (i.e. when you're not at work in your suit)

>>13485464
>>13485473
Oh and preferably take the time to find the actual items you own IRL, and not just something you "would wear". But that's just an added bonus of quality.

>>13485386
These posts are starting to get me interested in tuning forks. I'm going to have to read up more on them.

>>13485478
>out of work week day
Track pants, a sweat shirt, slippers
>out of work weekend
Jeans, band shirt, Vans

>>13485483
Tuning fork watches are fantastic. The 218 and esa9162 are probably the most reliable.

>>13485487
Don't tell me, show me, fellow /fa/g.
Do it.

>>13485492

>>13485492

>>13485492
Thanks for the tips.

>>13485494

>>13485198
>not getting the green map version
Ya dun goofed

>>13485483
hope you don't need to sleep at night

>>13485518
dis looks ugly frend

>>13485473
>>13485478
Ok, I'll do this after work.

>>13484695
Sure thing. Occasionally wear two at once because I actually need to keep track of two timezones at once pretty frequantly. Wear them mainly on alternate wrists, but have been known to wear two on one wrist on rarer occasions.

R̶a̶t̶e bully me, /fa/.

>>13485521
They're barely audible from twelve inches. They do have a very pure spectrogram though.

>>13485089
I've seen him in /tpg/ and on /biz/ a few times

>>13485031
25 of those threads are less technology related than watches.

Great move.

>>13485544
>dis looks ugly frend

>>13485615
Now we are on /fa/ he's right though.

>>13485556
>They're barely audible from twelve inches.
I can't put my Hisonic on a hard surface or I can hear it at night.

>>13485637
I don't hear any of mine. Could there be something in the movement making contact with the case in a way that's transmitting a lot of vibration? I'd expect it to chew through battery if so. My accuquartz 224, which is my closest relative to your 218-clone hi-sonic, is maybe my quietest tuning fork.

purple 34 is my grail desu

>>13485666
you have pretty bad taste, Satan

>>13485661
>Could there be something in the movement making contact with the case in a way that's transmitting a lot of vibration?
I don't think so. The case is steel, and I replaced the original cracked mineral crystal with a similar profile acrylic one. Don't know if that changes anything.
>I'd expect it to chew through battery if so.
I just changed it after nine months, I think that's about normal consumption. See pic.

It might just be that I have a good ear or something.

>>13485666
The only OP with non butchered baton proportions is the white 114300.

Thoughts on this watch?
Got it as a gift and know nothing about it other than its a Victorinox 241287 with a sapphire crystal

>>13485694
Jesus, that white dial is Japanese-tier.

>>13485694
>114300
thats pretty sweet too

>>13485555 (checked)
>I actually need to keep track of two timezones at once
Just get a GMT-Master my guy.

>>13485683
I guess that's possible. On my 2302, when I pull the crown, the havking lever pushes on something in such a way that the case starts vibrating and buzzing like crazy, which is why I ask (wish it had a circuit disconnect). That I can hear faintly across the room on a hard surface.

>tfw it's too hot and the leather has to come off of everything

>>13485709
I would, but I'm unfortunately cursed with being a complete and utter wristlet. Do you know any other watches for keeping track of multiple timezones that are in the 34mm - 36mm range? I've looked into worldtimers, but they're all 40mm+. Closest I found was an Ardath multi-timer but they're overpriced for what they are.

Real big shame too, because I love the design of the GMT Master. Was actually considering buying a Tudor mini-sub not long ago just to fill the void for a dive watch in my life.

Pic of my Sandoz day-date because why not. Keeps the thread bumped.

Well. They deleted it again! Fucking scumbags.

>>13485746
Jesus Christ my man start lifting weights

>>13485784
I have started doing so very recently, but thanks for the motivation Anon. Slowly making some progress.

>>13483538
I follow you in insta

I'm based south londoner

My Hamilton

Everyday watch

>>13485833
Good everyday watch, but why are your boxers around your ankles Anon?

>>13485844
nah dude

262nd for Japshit.

>>13485857
With the discontinuation of the SARB 033/035 the situation has truly gotten dire for dressy stainless steel sports watches below $500. The choices for dress watches below that price point are all oversized too, barring the quartz SACM171.

>>>/g/66586624

>>13485872
Yeah I held off too long on the 033, always had it in my mind to get one at some point. Guess I'll be sporting this Bambino v2 and my old SNE124 quartz for the foreseeable future.

>>13485898
You're a madman.

I'm struggling to find the correct diver size for my wrist. Plain watches are pretty easy and I always go for the 40/42mm diameter for my 6.75 inch wrist. How does it work for divers?

>>13485696
>£500
Bloody hell that's expensive. Do you have a way of getting than money back?

>>13485808
It’s hard for wristlets because it’s mostly genetics. Small wrists are good because they make your arms proportionally look larger but they’re bad for watches. You can probably grow them an inch or so just through heavy compound lifts but you can target them with farmer walks and other accessory work, and of course putting on weight will make them a tiny bit bigger.
t. Ex wristlet

And the real thread is down.

>>13486063
I feel like it's just one mod with an opinion

>>13486063
Check /g/ again

>>66587440
In theory a free sprung balance, balance bridge movement like a Rolex should hold up to golfing fine. I wouldn't recommend trying it with a GS though as it uses a regulated balance and could easily have the regulator arm move.

A Casio Duro should also be totally fine, I'd only worry about really cheap analogue quartz movements.

>>13486073
He probably bought a Fossil and was shit on.

RECORD TIME

test

I bought some shitty kickstarter watches because I was an idiot. What is the best way to recoup my money on them?

>>13486087
don't give up on /g/
keep posting in each new thread

>>13486076
>>13486087
>>13486089
>>13486101
Why are these getting axed?

>>13483502
If i spent big money on a watch I'd like to buy either a custom unique made by some vintage watchmaker or buy an omega maybe rolex. I'd keep that watch forever.

>>>/g/66588005

>>13486204
Maybe if you shitpost the fuck out of this /fa/ general they'll start moving it back to /g/.

Spam it with pictures of helium release valves instead of beads.

>>13486204

those faggots.

is that why they allow fucking "battle station" and "desktop" generals?

there has been a "boomer tech" thread on g all fucking day

Hello frens, I'm a plane guy and I've just started doing instrument approaches. It made me realize really quickly that I need a watch. I'm looking for:
>Poorfag approved
>Easy readout of seconds
>Readable in the dark
Bring able to shower and swim with it on would also be a big plus.
Is the legendary F91w the watch for me? Is there another, smallish watch that would do the job better?
Thanks

>>66588237
>>66588237
>>66588237

yay :3

>>13486255
Oops.

>>>/g/66588237
>>>/g/66588237
>>>/g/66588237

>>13486204
Horseshit. Independently of the fucking spammer? So it's just a coincidence that threads would stay up until he showed up? Bullshit, they just got tired of doing their jobs. Chased away lots of regulars as well. Meanwhile headphone general, battlestation, YLYL, sticker threads etc. remain up.

Fuck you stupid faggot mods. Now /wt/ will have gridposting and /fa/ bullshit while knowledgeable posters leave. "topics discussed on /wt/ are not tech related" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And all because you can't handle a shitposter or two, shitposters everyone in the general have been complaining about. May your Hot Pockets be cold in the middle you greasy fat fucks.

>>13486274
>tfw someone reposts the picture i made in five minutes at work

feels good man

>>13486286
>this kills the watch thread

>>13484127
Damn, off-center watches are so good. I am in love.

>>13484291
For $12 more on Amazon the Mudman G9000 is a better package. World time, two 1000-hour stopwatches, multiple alarms, mud resistance, and a low temperature resistant LCD. It’s not much bigger, unless you have skelly wrists (if you do, go to /fit/ and start lifting).

Welp don't with /wt/ then. Enjoy life /fa/gs

>>13486204
/g/wt/ officially BTFO


ahaha you thought your infinite shitposting would have no consequences

/g/ /wt/ is obviously different to /fa/ /wt/, just another example of the mods not knowing what they are doing and being massive fags.

>>13486329
Take it up here
>>>/qa/2166112

>>13486329
I have cross posted for a long time and the differences are:

g/wt
>watch makers
>shit posting

fa/wt
>more quirky designs
>occasional fashion shitters
>slow threads

Hey losers, I'm thinking about buying a gold sub.

Convince me not to.

>>13486344
It sounds like you already have your mind made about spending 8k+ on an unbelievably tacky and honestly, very ugly watch. It will almost certainly look even worse if you are white as gold looks bad on most white skin tones.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273274478802
Never seen a vostok 2209 with the lighting bolt dial this minty, almost want to cop it.

>>13486348
I'm open to suggestions from anyone.

Mostly looking for a nice watch that says "fuck you, I'm rich." Also, Jaeger is already on my list as a dress watch, so skip that brand.

>>13486360

>>13486348
>8k+
good luck getting a basic 16610 for that

>>13486360
Solid gold speedmaster, nothing else is acceptable.

>>13486344
>Convince me not to.
No.

They are a bit loud but there's nothing wrong with wearing them on occasion.

>>13486367
Take it down a notch.

>>13486375
Yeah, the pre-ceramics go for around 16 in excellent condition, which is still fine.

>>13486377
I know I'm in the extreme minority on this one, but speedys don't really do it for me.

>>13486379
I like your style.

P.S. the Jaeger of my dreams, but on a black alligator band.

>>13486388
Shit forgot the image

>>13486360
just buy a platinum daytona on the used market for ~$60k.

never really shared this watch because of getting flamed or someone calling it fake, but here you go. Now that we're on /fa/ggots no one will probably see this

>>13486388
>Yeah, the pre-ceramics go for around 16 in excellent condition, which is still fine.

nigga wat

16610 is submariner not daytona

>>13486213
I support this effort

>>13486398
>tineye
0 results
>google
0 results

uhhhh, did the demise of /wt/ really push someone to post their ceramic platinum daytona? wtf

>>13486249
pls, the sticky was mostly hobbyist/enthusiast oriented
All I know about is guns and hip hop

>>13486403
if i ever post again i'll use this trip as pruuf

>>13486398

bitch is that real?

who are you and what do you do for a living

>>13486407
don't be a tripfag, there is no need whatsoever. Just post a pic of the watch

>>13486249
Look into G-shocks. DW-5600 series is a great place to start; they get progeressively more expensive. Water proof to 20 bars, shockproof, take a beating and still tick, etc.

>>13486398
Probably a little out of the price range. Was thinking about under 20k. Tell us the story of that watch though, I'm legit interested.

>>13486400
>16610
Wasn't talking about the 16610 - my post was about a 16618

>>13486414
Thanks a bunch, Anon. I'll check em out

I am in love. I know its not the fanciest watch out there but I really am stoked with this and I'm afraid my other watches will dust now

>finally got my Hamilton pilot day date
>took the day off from work to enjoy it
>watch is broke, the arms are all fucked up
>got a refund must send it back
>literally liked it
>bought a Presage, a Bambino and A Man and his Watch book for coping
>waiting for beta watches
That fucking feel, lads.

>>13486519
shit I'm sorry to hear that anon. I spoke to you last time after I had sent my one back

>>13486519
Just get another mate.

Wassup homies

I must have missed recent events so why are we on /fa/? Does anyone have the tl;dr version?

>>13486805
>>13486312
>>13486333

>>13486805
We all agreed that it would be better for everyone if we moved to /fa/.

>that retarded boomer who pays ten grand for a fancy logo

>>13486820
>retards spend 100k on a tesla when my KIA with eco boost does the same job

>>13486805
Tudor spams, mods are lazy, move thread to fa, give bullshit excuses for their actions

>>13486820
This is bait.

No one reply to it.

You've been warned.

>>13486832
This is what we get now we are /fa/ looks is all that matters.

>>13486805
/g/ mods are lazy faggots.

>>13484695
My friends call me a basic bitch. Are they right? ;_;

>>13486941
Extremely.
There is nothing wrong in being one though, the world is built for us.

Can someone explain the timeline of /wt/ to me? I've been coming for years but last 3-4 months have had no time to post. Now it's on fa? I came back for the first time last night on /g/ and it was a mess.


>not having wind speed on your watch in 2018

>>13487018
I probably should've read up in the thread a bit before posting ...

>>13487018
Somewhere over a year ago one faggot got enormously bootyblasted when started posting stupid shit in /wt/ and got repeatedly BTFO'd by various regulars, and he got so mad about it he spent 8+ hours a day shitposting, trolling and spam flooding the thread for over a year until the mods gave up even trying to deal with him and banished /wt/ to /fa/ rather than have to deal with moderating it.

We have a discord now, but it's not been that active and the thread on /fa/ hasn't been as active either.

>>13486895
/g/ mods are ridiculously underpaid.

>>13487026
50 bucks says it's a butthurt democrat.

>>13487026
Is the bead shitposter the same as the porn poster? I was around for that. It's a real shame since for a long time /wt/ was one of the only forums you could get non-reddit tier advice and opinions outside of obscure specialists forums where you dealt with REAL autism.

I don't know who's still around but RIP to nineball, lawyer anon, Canadian bro, dude who's wife was in biotech or some shit and was a stay at home dad with cool watches, quant anon who was a real bro, Slav Watchmaker, and many others.

>>13487026
What's the discord ?

>>13487044
dis-cord.gg/nX3B2Sv

>>13487038
Most of the regulars are in the Discord and a bunch of us will be posting to the /fa/ version for at least the time being.

I remember about four watches ago I said I'm not buying anymore watches.

>>13487075
Anyway got this for $10, so I couldn't just pass on it. Some old guy comes into the store sometimes just to chat about watches with me, holding up the line. He babbles and smells of ciggies, but he hoards vintage japshit so I tolerate him. He's one of those old-school flea-market stalkers, digging through trash for an occasional busted-up nugget.

He also had a Tissot Twotimer like pic, but it was too busted up so I passed on that.

>>13487089
Oh, I am pretty sure I have seen him before at two of my local watchmakers. When he saw my spezimatic he asked the watchmaker to for a lupe and he was looking at the movement for like ten minutes, didn't do nothing but looked at it.

>>13487089
Hungarybro, you're back? I thought you left for good.

>>13487100
I don't know, there are like thousands of these old watch hoarder weirdos walking around.

>>13487101
I'm at work, what else am I going to do?

I really hope you guys aren't blaming me for this mess.

>>13487100
Post Spezimatic.

Is this yours?

>>13487111
I really hope you kys.

>>13487111
Kill yourself you subhuman shitskin paki fuck.

>>13487114
>>13487116
>mods too dumb to allow a watch thread on /g/ but also allow blatant spam and shitposts
>my fault

>>13487112
Just sold it a few weeks ago for parts.
Last time I saw you posting it, I really thought it was mine because the back of the case and the crown looked the same, even the scratches.

>>13487112
Oh and btw we would really like you joining the discord.

>>13487111
Gas yourself.

Letting 3rd world subhuman trash into the UK was a mistake

>>13487134
Nah, fuck that shit.

>>13487146
Whiter than you.

>>13487149
I don't want change your decision, but why wouldn't you?

>>13487118
>Destroy a general with general spam, porn, gore, bait and beads.
>Wonder why those guys blame him for destroying the general

>>13487111
A dick move, but you could at least tell your reasoning behind it.

>>13487158
If i could be bothered I'd get a group together and go torch the cunt's house.

>>13487158
>mods already established they decided /wt/ is /fa/ now
>still mad at me
Sad.

>>13487160
Probably just angry that no matter how far from his shit-hole home he moves or what he buys he'll always be trash.

>>13487178
>>13487178
>>13487178

>>13487165
The spam was the deciding factor, you fucking retard

>>13487186
Got any proof of that?

>>13487188
Do you really think that it's just a coincidence that it happened now and not any other time in the last 5 fucking years? Are you fucking retarded? Go fuck yourself. You and the bead faggot. Yes, I'm mad.

>>13487194
>no proof
btfo

>>13487194
He is the bead faggot, and the anti-Seiko faggot, and the guy who shitposts about non MOTFM Speedmasters, and so on. He was using several personas to shit up threads at the same time.

>>13487200
If you really think "Tudor" is one person you are literally retarded.

>>13487197
>btfo
It's impossible for anyone can be "btfo" by a kid with a fake Tudor that spams SFW boards with blacked porn when his thread doesn't get used

>>13483502
NEW NON TUDOR THREAD
>>13487203
>>13487203
>>13487203

>>13487038
>lawyer anon
still here, just shipped my speedy off to crown & caliber :3

>>13486827
I mean, yeah. Not a fair comparison cause cars have actual differences in quality, but a Chevy Bolt is nearly as good as a Tesla.

Is Swiss Military Hanowa good brand? Is this kind of strap better than leather?