/fa/ - Fashion

It's true but stop posting about it, dont want more wankers on the bandwagon

>>13470350
maybe if youre some underground producer i never heard of

>>13470350
absolutely agree..Feels good to be in nation where there lots of decent club and techno parties

techno and rap are both about equally shit desu

fucking cringe

>>13470350
>not gabber
dropped

>>13470350
>rapfags
only a white person would say something that cringe

/fa/ is a really dorky board when you think about it

Both genres are literally made for spergs with low IQ

House>techno

Both have their strengths though.

But seriously, stop limiting your music intake by genre or feeling a sense of superiority for discrediting other artforms. You're just a douche.

>>13470350
>the lifestyle
I like techno JUST as much as any North American urbanite who lived in berlin for a summer but come on. Loads of people who like techno have completely ordinary lives

Techno was born of the same production techniques and the same ethos that informed the creation of Hip Hop. Only difference is that the black people were gay.

House > Techno

>>13470797
black gay people also created house music bb

>>13470815
Of course they did! And bless 'em. "House" is short for "warehouse" - the origin of the Rave.

>>13470815
tripsk pls love me

emo is best genre

>>13470849
You will never touch her melanin-rich brap. How does that make you feel?

>not 90s eurodance

There isn't a genre more effay than Lofi

>>13470350
Very much disagree. Went to a couple pop up events and it was very cringe. Great music, women, and accepting of queer people but goddamn nothing kills the vibe more than self-conscious kids in all black sipping bitch drinks through a straw, not dancing, crossing their arms, and checking their phones every second. Makes me crave Frat kids and surfers

>>13471363
Lofi isn't a genre. In hip hop it usually just means, "I don't know how to mix". Every once in awhile there will be a moment of genius that is served by the low fidelity, but mostly it's just a cop out.

>>13470350
> best designer drugs
> best 90% naked girls
> most opportunities to grind on rufied teens
ever been to a rave? basketball shorts w/ backpacks, body paint, glow-in-the dark bracelets, rainbow wigs and tutus are the epitome of /fa/.

>>13470706
this

>>13471401
European raves are totally different

>>13471401
lul american raves

The question here is almost 'what is the most /fa/ drug'.

I don't think it's x, so it can't be techno. It's clearly heroin. I don't know what the music for that is but it's not techno. Maybe bebop or art pop

>>13470485
gabber is pretty much dead though

>>13470350
Chav shit

>>13471579
Ketamine

>>13470350
Hey guys,
Which is the best country to rave ITT and why? I'm more into Trance music but Techno is cool to me too.
Thanks.

Techno is close but the most /fa/ is either minimalist inspired or 4th world inspired experimental music

>>13471727
Also 2cb is going to be the next cool drug.

>>13471394
lo fi IS a micro genre that has it's own production style. being low fidelity is just part of it( and that's not even always the case),another part is acoustic samples and usually no vocals

not defending the genre btw, it's mostly derivative garbage

>>13471732
especially since kanye mentioned it in a song

>>13471363
literally 15yo with no personality starter pack

>>13471394
lofi is actually harder to mix well than normal stuff tho

>>13471751
>lofi is actually harder to mix well than normal stuff tho
Can you show me why? Or point to some well mixed examples? In the last few months I've been getting into paying attention to my mixes and that sort of thing, so I'd be happy to learn.

>>13470720
>techno for people for low iq
the fuck dude, that'd only seem logical if you only know some 2006 zayebis golf mk3 mixes for slavs or some burgerican pseudoraves at most, which proves the iq joke is on you
the real modern techno from labels like ostgut ton are actually mostly listened to by pretty smart guys and often businessmen
the guy with the biggest salary who i personally know listens to techno

>>13471757
i'm usually making 90s rap beats with normal mix and i have no bigger problem with that, but when i tried into lofi i was losing my shit
basically making it sound trashed but not trash and staying in that well and purposeful sounding zone ain't that easy as it might seem and at the end of the day you dont know if you did it well or what's your name. all the compression, bass managing, sidechaining

>>13471635
You know what ITT means right? Anyway Berlin, Tbilisi, heard good things about Detroit, Stockholm is looking up, Kiev with cxema, Poland to a certain extant

>>13471401
Jesus fuck have you ever been to a rave? LOL

>>13471389
Sounds like you go to the wrong places anon

>>13471363
random 24/7 beats youtube channels aren't lo-fi

https://www.readgrandcircus.com/journal/2018/5/16/original-mix-derrick-may

when you live that detroit techno life and its so good

>>13471751
Yeah? It's hard to mix in glaring sorethumb frequency spikes to make arrangments sound unbalanced? Good to know.

>>13471579
most /fa/ drugs
pre 1960 - Alcohol
1960-65 - LSD
1965-75 - Cannabis
1975-88 - Cocaine, Crack
1989-94 - Heroin
1995-present - MDMA
With a recent spike in the popularity of meth due to the tv show Breaking Bad.

>>13470350

>>13471774
plenty, and the good ones are like a naked halloween party. the shitty ones devolve into goth teir make-out sessions on bean bags chairs (nothing wrong with that, still fun, not /fa/).

https://youtu.be/Nztlz-xZrPY
https://youtu.be/N3OGgp3-KFM


It’s very /fa/

>>13471769
>ITT
Intense Testicular Tension.

>>13470350
>being a pretentious contrarian retard
>fa
heh

>>13470385
What country anon

>>13471389

this

>>13471774
>>13471561
>>13471548

you guys are fags

>>13470354
fpbp
sage all the way, normies stay out of my club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsymeOwrEg

>>13470735
While i was one of the normal ones, most people i met there are working in the dance scene (in some capacity) and/or truly live for the weekend. Pretty /fa/, shame they are all sluts and druggies.

>>13471580
Still hardcore parties in the Netherlands, but Hardstyle is the current "gabber".

me and my mates r rollin thru the club 2nite... see some proper bangin techno... alright doorman? who's billed tonight anyway? ahhh wots the damage.. can't wait to buy a 5£ lager and stand in the back of room with the other geezers dressed in black innit

>>13472480
>working in the dance scene
wow, what did you do?

>>13470350
Wrong.

The cross-over between post-punk, darkwave and minimal synth is objectively the most /fa/ subculture.

te$ting

it's shoegaze. no contest.

>>13470720
Amerimutt detected

hell yeah op i love david guetta and martin garrix too

>>13472778
We invented both genres. Nice try though.

>>13471997
I think bennys might have been the most fa drug. Prescription uppers are clean, keep you skinny, and keep you productive.

>>13470350
>YOU'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO CHANGE ME, THAT IS WHY I SHALL AWAYS STAY THE SAAAME!
https://youtu.be/8QUSQJQml40

>>13470350
obviously it is but fuck off with this cringe post. techno doesnt need more t. ourists
>>13471401
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>13472719
shoegaze is fa but I love both techno and shoegaze. they are fa in different ways

>>13473026
>Regularly spends 3 days doing drugs in a basement
>audience has to do speed just to keep up
>Straight edge because he cant operate his machines on a single beer
>Shift drum patterns every bar just to keep listeners interested

This is fantastic and dripping with truth

>>13473147
pseudo you rave in ny?

>>13473034
Is shoegaze that great? There's like two shoegaze bands that matter.

>>13473155
Not since 2002... The last good legal raves were Goa Trance parties @the Amazura, IMHO. The illegal ones, I can't speak on.

>>13472479


sometimes I fucking hate living in burgerland

>>13470706
Hey nigger, we are used to music made by evolved people with a complex and layered composition.

You just stick with your nigger music that sounds like sticks hitting logs and monkey noises. Produced and mixed by whites and jews of course.

Niggers are getting to uppity these days

>>13473158
desu that just shows you don't know much about shoegaze. guessing you mean mbv and slowdive? yeah the scene isn't/wasn't too big but why does that matter if their music is great?
other very good shoegaze bands are chapterhouse, lush, drop nineteens, whirr, and a sunny day in glasgow.
>>13473147
thanks glad you enjoy

>>13473298

People who go to techno events only go to take md/ket. They are all lifeless chavs without a personality, dressed in what ever the sports brand is popular. Well thats the UK for sure.

>>13473367
or people who genuinely like techno you sperg
you're showing your lack of social awareness quite bad here anon. or projecting your own issues.

>>13471635
there are great cities for partying in the north of germany
stay out of my clubs though, tourist

>>13472559
techno is the logical conclusion to those genres. it can be heavy, moody, dark, depressing, minimalistic and - most importantly - takes the prevalent pounding rythms to an extreme.

>>13472518
>me and my mates r rollin thru the club 2nite... see some proper bangin techno... alright doorman? who's billed tonight anyway? ahhh wots the damage.. can't wait to buy a 5£ lager and stand in the back of room with the other geezers dressed in black innit
hahahahahahhh

Share your "fa" techno, inb4 all the thread floods with Green Velvet

>>13473436
Robert Hood, L.I.E.S. Records... the list could go on and on!!

>>13472452
Enjoy your offbrand burger rave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwxpMIEZ9fg

garage is making a minor subcultural comeback

>>13473436
matt lange

>>13473367
When I started going to raves back in the 90's, we would usually bring, like, a 40 ounce. Often times nothing at all. It was really about the music and the people for a long time.

>>13473436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLk72d1WlFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnuGw5iKcqY
acid techno is nice

>>13473367
I go to support my friends :^)

>>13473681
>>13473191
How old are you

>>13473740
38. Started hitting underground parties around 15-16.

>>13473772
c o o l as long as i'm not the oldest poster here

>>13473772
>>13473791
As long as we're getting meta I appreciate you two a lot for trying to bring actual discussion. I'm glad you started tripping pseudo so the whole impersonation thing stopped ruining every thread.

>>13473816
<3

>>13473791
Fashion and culture is ageless, fellow oldtimer.

>>13473816
Thank you for that. I'm glad I started tripping again, oddly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9YB_K8rQH8

Classiest house music I know.

I know I'm swamping this thread, but I just have to add that my experience with oldskool raves was a lot like an idealized lunchtime recess in highschool - you danced a bit, you hung out with friends you met at other parties, you made the rounds socially, a lot of pounds and hugs, a lot of dance battling and good vibes, connecting with kids you ain't seen in a minute. You just kind of wandered around, if you were me you were checking out the DJ from time to time. There was a sort of magic in the air at a good party with a good DJ. You knew the songs, but not their names, and you knew what the DJ was mixing and how that reflected the journey he was taking the whole crowd on.
I feel like the advent of laptops and serato kind of ruined this magic. The DJ was a shaman. Not anymore.

>>13473927
I find clubs where no one is taking pics or on their phone to be really similar idk. A lot of djs are returning to vinyl

>>13473927
Reading stories like this makes me so sad I'll (probably) never get to experience a scene like this. There is an underground experimental scene where I live, but it feels like it's full of older people trying to rekindle what they used to have more than being some youth movement

>>13473950
>clubs where no one is taking pics or on their phone
Oh lord, those are the spots! I'm glad to hear of this return to vinyl. I'm always disappointed to see a laptop on stage, even more so when I walk backstage and see the fucker's lining up the transients in parallel waveforms because he hasn't grasped beatmatching on that gut level.

https://soundcloud.com/murtaghmusic/entropy-2
Murtagh is so good

>>13473971
I think you just might. The fault of these people you speak of is that they're trying to rekindle the old and not shape the new - something that was, IMHO, a cornerstone of that golden era in electronic music.
I feel like once the "virgin IDM" artist in >>13473026
have poisoned the scene and led to the sort of half-assed boomer tier shit you're referring to.
It's temporary, in my opinion. As Tripsk has said (and in doing so confirmed a secret hope of mine), there is going to be a swing, back to a time when the purity of the scene was not yet poisoned by media hysteria and Ticketmaster.

The last party I ever went to required me to go through ticketmaster, and it was a ghetto ass rave in Harlem in a fucking roller rink (heads will know the Key rink). After that party I was fed up with it. A lot of the downfall of true rave culture can be traced to this notion that raves were a place to go and do drugs, not to bask in the sound and the people. That's not what raves are about.
It's a lot like graffiti or breakdancing in the sense that it gets highly popular for a time and that popularity corrupts it and kills the mass appeal. BUT - all the while, there are true heads who are devoted to the real scene as it was and should be, and they're there, still growing the music and the culture even if nobody is watching.

>>13470350
It's finished. The rave scene has changed so much. There's a lot of negativity in it now.

>>13473993
Yeah, the whole no-phone thing is great to hear even if I haven't seen any of it yet. Social media/internet ubiquity killed subcultures in the most painful way. I think there's a chance for small back-swings to happen but overall culture is probably doomed to this gross homogeneity.
Rave experience sounds really shitty, but honestly that's what I expect these days. Hit a few when I was first able to get out and that's how every single one went. The more recent experimental shows not so much. It was all spread by word of mouth, just either enough younger people weren't into it or the word couldn't get around to them. I know now enough people who are interested, and I've been jamming purely with hardware with a few of them. Would love to get it off the ground locally but it's a long road ahead.

>>13474029
>jamming purely with hardware
You're speaking my language. That's what I've been doing for a while now, and it's been a bitch getting momentum, save for the occasional minor club gig and some trendy rooftop bullshit I would not be caught dead at were it not for the paycheck.

Vid related is 100% live synthesis from scratch, no samples used and improvised on the spot. It's just a snippet, but I can pull an ever changin 2 hours out of just an MD-UW and a KP3+ for looping and transitions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-ezeOzNNw

>>13474033
Man that's some good stuff. And at least you're getting real money for selling out
We're building up gear slowly-started with korg volca tier stuff just to dabble and are finally accumulating some more robust gear secondhand. We've got an electrical engineer too trying to DIY stuff but it's a steep learning curve.

>>13474068
You might want to consider saving up for some Elektron gear. I've been all hardware for twenty years now (save for turntables at some gigs). Each of my Elektron machines took me a long time to save for and a longer time to understand, but I could never consider going back - they're so versatile. That vid you saw was just me on a HEAVILY reprogrammed Elektron drum machine capable of FM synthesis and several other approaches.

And it really makes me glad to hear that you dig my output. Thanks for that. If you ever want to share some tracks, let me know.

>>13474085
OH man, some of that looks so good. It's definitely a bit down the road but I'll keep it in mind in case anyone's dumping any of theirs or there's an estate sale.
And of course! You've been around the block a few times and usually have some unique input. It's refreshing. Don't have anything amazing yet but I'll definitely send something your way when we eventually hit our stride. Thanks again

>>13474120
I look forward to it! Please don't hesitate.
If you dig the minimal & dub techno live gear stuff, you might like this 17 minute mix of multiple machines & Terrence McKenna quotes:
https://kingscountylighthouse.bandcamp.com/track/intro-dub-mckenna-meditations
I'm at a higher level now, but its still decent for a guy with an SP404, a machinedrum and a KP3+.

Stay creating, brother.

I was raised in semi-rural ireland and moved to England for uni. Got into Grime quite heavily as I've always liked following Rap and it felt like a logical progression, however, Grime introduced me to Jungle, Garage, DnB and I was enjoying those sort of nights out.

A mate invited me to Berlin and I had no expectations or ideas about what the nightlife was going to be like. I knew Paris' quite well, but it hadn't prepared me for night 1 were I miraculously got into Berghain and stayed for like 30 hours.

Since then I've been back to Berlin about 4 times (in 3 years) and attended a fair share of techno raves elsewhere and I think, as another poster mentiond, there definitely were nights when you capture that perfect mix between dancing, talking to your friends and talking to new people.

So my question is - what are your favourite techno bangers?

>>13470350
>goes to Berghain once

>>13474157
Have you ever heard of DJ Ani? he did some wonderful jungle shit with turntablism on top. Best work was a mixtape full of originals and a downtempo lofi section by the name of "Ampmutation".

>tfw the jungle kids start robbing the candy kids

>>13474157
>what are your favourite techno bangers?
My own shit that no one listens to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ztuBW8L2MQ

>>13474166
This is quality, mate! Are you using a DAW or a live gear setup? Any place I can D/L? Got any mixes?

>>13474175
I use Renoise with a slew of VSTs, absolutely no live gear (tho I wanna get a minilogue sometime).
DL is at my shitty fake label https://patricianrecords.bandcamp.com/
Don't do any mixes or live shit anymore since I played a warehouse in brussels and a tranny spilled beer on the mixer causing a blackout

>>13474185
>tranny spilled beer on the mixer causing a blackout
ALL OF MY RAGE
I once had some drunk hipster pull the RCA's outta my mixer. My GF at the time had to hold me back I was so enraged.

D/Ling your shit, thanks!

>>13470706
how's your summer fag

>>13473831
Hey poet I'm the anon who hijacked that art hoe thread. I'm an idiot and reloaded the page without thinking so i lost the whole (very long) post i just wrote. I'm way too tired to rewrite it, so I'll just do a sort of tl;dr for some things i suppose.
First off I'm glad that tripping again has worked out for you! That's good news. This whole thread is a breath of fresh air in fact, it's nice seeing a conversation that isn't so toxic (which things seem to be unusually so lately, even for /fa/ standards).
Your videos and music are very inspiring to me - and while i have only dabbled in either software or hardware mixing, my experience with the latter has been infinitely better. No better feeling than that - i used to play competitive melee, so pressing buttons may be my favorite thing in the world. I am far too young and in too isolated a place to have experienced the techno scene, but i can at the very least appreciate the music. I think I'll probably borrow some basic equipment from my friend just to try it out again. Also,
>pic related

>>13474190
m8 you don't even know
I had party whores who thought the dj booth is the best place to take coke in fuckin London of all places
One early 2000s looking motherfucker begging for drum n bass at a strictly techno night, tried starting a fight and got kicked out
And a Macbook failing at a big ass mostly queer party where people were REALLY into the music, with a big ass awkward silent pause because of it
Fucking hell man I hated performing live as an electronic artist, hats off if you stick with it

>>13474198
>all my savings on that Basic Channel Dubplate
All my keks

I'm so happy to hear that not only did you get something outta my vids (thank you) but that you share the joy of manipulating gear and pressing buttons. I like to think of live gear work and "programming a vcr with a timer running out and a gun to your head." And I mean that in a good way. That's such special feeling, performing like that. It's refreshing to hear someone say that.

Don't hesitate to start making music with whatever you have on hand. This is my first makeshift rig, I could mix and sample, use loops to transition but that was it. 1998 or 97.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYHdanWFAY-/

Pic related is my current setup, minus a few more samplers. Twenty plus years of saving money and devoting my time to production& performance as much as possible.
It's a sacrifice, to be sure, but it's very rewarding to have all that power and expression under your fingertips. It's like a vidya gaem, in a lot of ways - you're right on that point 100%.
I appreciate your comments regarding the quality of discussions here, and it's nice seeing more and more people wanting to elevate the level of discourse.
>oh God my tube DAC just died
as did my sides

>>13474205
Dude, that shit is nightmare fuel. I once got punched by a drunk ass at a house & dubtech party because the selections I was dropping weren't "funky" enough.
I like the fear and challenge of performing live. I love how at the end of a show I'm exhausted beyond belief even though I've exercised nothing but my brain.
Besides, a table full of blinking lights looks cool AF to the uninitiated.

>>13474220
>I like the fear and challenge of performing live
Yeah, that's why I ran a noise rock band last year. With a guitar and some pedals, you don't worry as much about shit breaking plus the music is inherently confrontational. With electronic gear, I'd be way too worried, especially after the brussels incident.

>>13474227
Very understandable. I've tried to keep friends and colleagues on hand during wilder parties for that very reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXdDJZaFGnM&t=151s listen to my shit because i used to be a model and wear cargobaskets every day

>>13474166
Hey this is nice. I'm a regular Trance/Psy/Goa guy and honestly, the only techno I ever heard was Deadmau5 and Paul Kalkbrenner but this one was nice. I think I should discover more Techno now.

>>13472484
i love hardstyle and i cant stop listening to it jesus christ headhunterz is god

>>13474248
If you like this more ethereal stuff, definitely check out this album;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGPZpr5H9Sk
and make sure to listen at night in the dark.
It's what got me over from that hard electrotrash shit (Justice, SebastiAn and all that Ed Banger Myspace electro) and into proper and especially dub techno.

>>13470350
Not gonna prove you wrong. Live in a city with an okay techno scene myself and visit quite some parties. All I can say is that it's quite effay but 90% of the people are just wearing generic thrift and vintage shit to fit in.
I can remember at a festival 2 years ago literally everyone was wearing some old windbreaker. And before that everyone was wearing floral.

That's techno. People are just super sensitive to trends and keep hopping onto the latest one.

>>13472559

Minimal Wave / Cold Wave is effay as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahs-oaAemjg

Does /fa/ like drum and bass?

>>13472542
danced

STFU pop punk is the most patrician.

>>13470706
*Snap*

>>13474319
No, we only like techno clubs. Like the one in Blade

Music festival promoter fag here.

Techno is a boring as fuck genre. Tech-Trance is literally better in every fucking way, but 100% I agree with you OP Techno is /fa/ the genre, as most of it's audience are pretentious poseurs that think because they are listening to 123 bpm elevator music they're more deep and intelligent than everyone else in the dance music scene. Just go look at boiler room sets ffs, just a bunch of pretentious hipsters bobbing to boring af music.

Tech-Trance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Techno fact
https://youtu.be/03dGWdDOYuY?t=3m26s

>>13470350

techno is cool, but post punk is the most /fa/ music genre

>>13470350
I think the problem is regionality with this thread. Europe has techno at a massive level and dance music pretty much imbued in popular culture (especially UK where I'm living atm) and while certain areas of North America are massive for their contribution to the development of Techno as a genre (ie Detroit, Chicago), Hip Hop generally still dominates most of the popular mainstream. I think techno culture as an aesthetic is emerging in NA for fashion, but thats with or without actual engagement in dance music (house included).

>That feel when Hard house and Acid House are dead genres
>That feel when they're literally the most /fa/core genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI

This is actually what SUPREMEfags were listening too back in the day.

>>13471732
It better fucking be, 2C-B is the best fucking shit EVER but it's rare as fuck.

>>13474617
lmao this is tacky as fuck
Straight up music for people who live in a village and drive a Volkswagen Golf

>>13474633
acid keeps getting revived all the time my man, there's acid parties in Berlin every weekend

>>13474617
>Every dance music night in my city has changed to Techno because everyone wants to jump on the Berghain circlejerk bandwagon

>>13474633
I would KILL for a Hard House revival. It's the most fun genre of music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwknTx1YRAg

I'm sick with how slow dance music has gotten over the past decade. First, it was Prog-House killing Trance then Techno killing Prog-House. The BPM since I started going out has gone from 150 to 120.
Psytrance I guess has come smashing back but fuck I hate Darkpsy and it has taken over all the psytrance events. UK Freeform >>>>>>>>>>> Darkpsy as well.

>>13474212
Thanks so much for the insightful reply - I think I really will have to try out some hardware again now. For me, in terms of performance art, melee was just too much - I couldn't deal with constantly trying to focus on my opponent. If I played melee again I'd much rather do tech skill demonstrations, speedrunning, something like that. Maybe that's just the inner sperg in me but I LOVE the thrill of having the crowd as my "opponent" in that sense, it's much more enjoyable to me.

Hell, I haven't even lived 20 years myself - I guess I better start trying some new things out now, which fits with my goal to branch out a little.Your setup is insane and beautiful and it was a treat seeing all the content you post on instagram as well.

I can only imagine how much power that is - as a kid I had this toy called u-create music (still remember it, kek it's probably in my basement somewhere), it was very basic, but I would use it for hours and make some horrifically bad "techno". Maybe things will come full circle now.
I'm happy to hear that you appreciate my comments and I very much do yours, this is some fascinating stuff.

Also I'm actually going to try vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtemveUbcnU and play around with it until I can get a real setup.. I'll be looking around.

>>13472851
>proiecting this hard
Yep americoward confirmed

>>13475026
yoinks he called him out for projecting, where did he come up with THAT sickening burn?

>>13474974
Thanks for writing this, mate. My own introduction to electronic music as a child was surprisingly close to yours.

The notion of using a controller as a trigger set is INSANE and I'm loving this video to death! It's like, live performed hip hop, all those little sounds chained together to form a longer melody, that's the real shit, that's the hard shit, that's what takes a certain mind to really grasp.
I'm spreading your vid to some friends. Good shit.

It all depends on where you really want to take your 'career' as an artist, too - I'm lucky enough to have a steady income outside of it. It's no way to make money unless you can work an investor or a room the way you would an instrument, and that's where I fall short as an electronic musician. The deeper in I got the more I saw it was about circles of influence and inoffensive networking, saying the right thing to the right people. I couldn't do it.
Hell, I've kinda gotten sick with a lot of the hip-hop instrumental scene lately, I can't play the virtue signal game and I don't think it's wise to alienate fans and mock them on twitter because you disagree with their politics or they aren't woke enough. I've never done that well, and I can't pull it off with a straight face.
That's only been my experience, of course, YMMV. It's just that you pursue this goal of expressive mastery to its very end and you reach that summit, and you get it, you understand the machines like nothing else, you can pour that sound out forever, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you don't have the right connects and make the right moves with the right people, and sure that sounds bitter, but I feel you hit a point where you're gonna be forced to choose between playing the Game or understanding this beautiful artform on an even deeper level.
Art's not commercially viable.

>tfw a vodka mate costs 13€ where i live

>>13476656
You're going to the wrong clubs

techno is fine but everyone who listens to it is basically retarded from doing half a gram of molly every weekend

>>13476761
i'm not, i just live somewhere expensive
a bottle of club mate at a grocery store is 3€

Why people are wearing sunglasses at techno clubs? To cover their drug induced eyes? Honestly?

>>13472559
>>13474292
This. Dark wave and witch house parties are the craziest and most friendly i've ever been to.

Techno parties are great but there are a lot of stuck up faggots and hoes.

>>13476918
Depends. Always bring sunglasses if you're planning on leaving once the sun is up

>>13476656
Yikes. I paid about that much for vodka mate in Copenhagen and I misunderstood the exchange rate and just kept using my card and realised I had spent like €80 on drinks the night before

>>13476918
Yup. Your pupils are massive and they tend to run all over, it's quite funny with a bunch of friends.
Was totally against it myself until I tried it. Helps me even more since I'm a bit anxious and sunglasses are great for that.
Didn't realize /fa/ was this into techno, cool. Kinda wish techno parties had less tryhards and more people just dancing and enjoying themselves.

>>13473877
checked. top tier house.

>>13476890
Jesus Christ man. Costs 1€ in Berlin mostly. But is mate really worth it tho

>>13476918
Honestly I enjoy people not knowing if I'm looking at them or not (and if I'm awake or not).

>>13470350
>the ideas
>the values

you're talking about some mongs taking mandy, wearing psuedo roadman clothing while gurning and bumping around as though it matters or is deep at all

>>13477805
then you weren't there, simple.
Not OP.

>>13474319
lmao fuck no

>>13476918
i love wearing sunglasses at techno parties and my friends do too. same reason as others have said, pupils, can look cool/funny, if you're partying till sunrise it's rly nice to walk out with them on.

>>13477296
>Dark wave and witch house
lmao why are you equating the 2? darkwave is sick I agree and very /fa, just like post punk but witch house is quite cringey.
at least the scene where I live is too trap influenced, so you get tons of underaged kids going to these parties. the general consensus is witch house is a similar level to trap or dubstep, not something you'd want to be caught dead at past age 16.
in big city in central/eastern euro btw

>>13473436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvjRsrSWGn4

>>13473436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoLwgsx7hWA

What I hate the most about todays events (basically any electronic genre) is that almost no one is there because of the music, the music just became like a needed background setting while you take pictures and snort lines in the bathroom.

Back in the day people knew almost every track that was out and you were craving to hear an unreleased new dubplate when you went out, while today no one cares as long as the DJ keeps the same tempo and that's it, he could be playing the same set almost every time and 90% of the people there would never notice. Sad.

>>13470350
>The people
normies?
>>13470350
>the lifestyle
playing hooker dress-up to go fist pumping at a festival?

>>13470350
>its not new orleans jazz
WHEN THE SAINTS COME MARCHING IN

>>13471394
Echo Pork

>>13477901
yeah nah, the clubs in your city are just trash

>>13477901
Completely disagree. Seem to be hanging around with artfags and posers. Most people that enjoy the music are not ones you'd expect.

>>13477905
You have no clue what techno is

>>13477823
Not here. The witch house scene is composed mainly of nerds and people that actually enjoy the music and usually the same people that frequent both dark wave, cold wave parties as well.

I mean, we don't have nearly enough people that like those genres as you have in europe. The scene is still mostly reserved for people that care about it.

I bet none of you mishaped ugly cunts would even be let inside the berghain.

>>13478694

Are you in the US ? If so where ?

Up here in Washington we have jack shit. Even when it comes to techno, Seattle has like two clubs to chose from once a week.

>>13470350
yeah, techno has more poseurs then any other genre.

I wouldn't say their fashion is most /fa/ though. Unless /fa/ ends at oblique eastern european looks.

>>13471757
Lofi is hard to produce because the band is narrower (how high/low you can go with the sound), and because you're essentially imitating sounding like shit (but good). It's reverse engineering, but your template is entirely aesthetic. There are no steps to making lo-fi, the original work was made with poorer quality samples/equipment and then transferred to horrible storage mediums.

It's like vaporwave, it has to sound like it's playing from the inbuilt soundcard from your 98 PC, without actually sounding like it. You know how you remember things being better as a kid then when you revisit it? Lo-fi is capturing that feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5FOExEiOSg

>>13478788
Not even close. I'm in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Pic related, when ic3peak came here.

>>13478804
Lo-fi is a nice genre, but fuck no it's not hard to produce. Literally just use some low/high pass filters on the master track, use 909 or older drum samples and some tape saturation/vinyl plugins on everything.

Also, soundcards in 1998 were able to recreate regular music perfectly nice already, you're thinking of cassette tapes. Please limit to your opinion to "it's nostalgic" if you don't know much about production.

>>13478804
i think you're giving it more credit than due. the basic sound of lofi is easy to make, plain and simple.
but just because something is easy to produce shouldn't make it less enjoyable. you're right about the nostalgia for sure.

>>13477794
well, i don't drink or do drugs and the mate keeps me awake. can't help but keep on sipping on those 5€ 0,33l mates

>>13470721
>House>techno

>>13478780
my two good friends are literal runway models with sick style but didn't get into berghain because they were too young (19 and 18) and foreign.
it's not all about looks, I've had uglier friends get in. really depends on who is deciding at that moment desu

>>13479683
getting in is super easy if you are 21+, local and go there often
otherwise it's pretty random

bump of amphetamine

>>13474319
D&B will always be nothing to me but the soundtrack of riced out Mitsubishi Eclipses in the mid-2000s.

>>13470350
Fuck your genres nerd

>>13476918
>>13477322
>>13477530
>>13477816
>cant wear sunglasses because of my faggy fucking prescription eyeglasses
send help lads fUCK

>>13480522
If you're pinging why do you need perfect vision. just wear shades.

also don't do md anywhere where you'd be in trouble if people knew you were doing it(i.e pupils like plates).

bouncers don't care if you're off your tits once you're in the club.

>>13480522
Get contacts fagget

what're some recommendations for techno and the like?
i'm new to this genre and don't know where to start

>>13480789
massive attack

>>13474593
If you're a 15 year old alt-bitch.

>>13480789
Luomo
the entire Forcetracks catalog
underworld, cups and others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-QzqsYgPQ&list=PLCEZiuKLWCAVNrssRWlVmzOyaFLnJ-DUz

>>13480789
https://soundcloud.com/dsnt/rave-tape-008-airod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV8oA1xtpTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZKZJoLOrkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QPrJa7z12s
The recent techno revival is amazing

>>13480789
Some of my favourites in the last few years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIMmBDfP29s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7LR_0vnDqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mR6zmSTDNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjCb4CB-hdw
and plugging my own shit again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzWrvXEA3aU

Though techno is a highly subjective format. I would recommend taking a while and listening to new releases over at ResidentAdvisor and finding out which kind you prefer. I personally really liked the industral techno stuff dudes like Ansome and AnD put out as well as dub techno, but dislike a lot of the polished, predictable Berghain stuff.

>>13481382
Sick shit here
Unrelated but someone ID me these shorts for the love of god, summer raves await me

>>13471401
>tfw no mephedrone because it's not manufactured anymore

>>13474157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daSid6Lh9Vs

not a banger in the sense it's a big loud yin that gets the jaw going but banger in that it's utterly phenomenal

>>13473300
Grrrrrrrreat... now I can't even listen to these guy's anymore now

>>13471758
>the real modern techno from labels like ostgut ton are actually mostly listened to by pretty smart guys and often businessmen

ULTRAKEK

>>13471356
underrated

>>13481664
>tfw have been in techno club in Poland yesterday, and i smelled mephedrone almost all the time.

>>13482313
Oh my god I wish that were me
Haven't smelled it here in ages in Brussels

>>13473442
L.I.E.S. released too much.

>>13482202
?

>>13473250

get a load of this guy who thinks techno wasnt pioneered by black people! how does it feel to also enjoy "nigger music?

you know what else whitey? the same people who produced techno tracks also produced hiphop records so you know, go suck a dick or somethin

>>13482897
t. shitskin

>>13471758
is this satire?

>>13474319
L O N D O N

>>13479164
Damn did I just get boomered?

>>13470354
>bandwagon
AHAHAHHA you delusional cunt, people have been jumping on its "bandwagon" for the past 20 years. And that includes you.

>>13474617
this is shit, how the fuck you can bring ppl to have fun to this music

>>13478871
nice

>>13483421
Aren't gatekeepers annoying? Everyone starts any interest as a casual or tourist.

Okay I have some things to say about this

>>13470350
OP no Techno full of disgusting junkie pieces of shit. No seriously, at least in the Dutch Techno scene, alot more drugs are consumed compared to people of most other genres. My pick is going to be UK garage. I can't imagine anything more fa than UKg, sorry. Drum and Bass (not talking about dancefloor liquid which is the most commercial subgenre) is high on my list music wise, but the stupid fucking piece of shit dnb septum sluts and skankers just kinda ruin it for me. A genre that I absolutely despise though, is Psytrance. I seriously hope all these hippie ass lunatics drop dead.

>>13470485
Gabber isn't really relevant anymore

>>13470721
Agree with this. Not talking about progressive house though. Think Tchami, Weiss, AC Slater, RÜFUS DU SOL. I have a weak spot for basshouse as well. I have a feeling that house parties are alot more clean, and laid back. IMO alot more fa than fucking techno.

>>13471363
Autism

>>13471732
I will never understand the hype about 2cb. I use it very occasionally and yeah its kinda funny and music gets kinda more interesting, but it fuzzes out you cognitive functions and sometimes you just don't fucking understand shit. The body load is terrible, and it just feels synthetic as fuck.

>>13470720
Cannot agree desu. Myself I seem to notice that Techno folk are higher schooled than most people of other genres. Less people are jobless as well.

>>13472484
Tbh yeah gabber is just old school hardcore but man I really fucking hate hardcore! Hardstyle is even worse but luckily it's not that big. But seriously the absolute dumbest people in rave culture are fucking hardcore faggots. Not only is the genre itself shit, but everyone is just so fucking simple. Most are racist, not because they have genuine opinions, but because they just like to shout at immigrants while drinking beer and literally having no life. And they keep bragging about and exaggerating their drug use. The women are absolute trash as well. Fuck it triggers me.