/fa/ - Fashion

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And that's it for now.

Also, does anyone know the difference between Kamakura's New York and Tokyo fit ?

So we finally hit 300?

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>>13311457
I think Tokyo fit is slimmer than NY fit.

>>13311652
Tfw you got accepted everywhere but Columbia

>>13311721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv7Ts4v5_Bs

Yesterday I bought a cool deelred pantalon and a lacoste shirt. Looks great.

>>13311721
Thanks

where to get the shorts the boy in the red jumper is wearing?

>>13313818
Looks like madras shorts, so probably all the classic prep brands: Brooks bros, J.Press, RL, Jcrew

>>13313889
>220x152

>>13313943
thinking about picking up a pair of the ll bean bluchers
i've heard about quality issues but I really prefer their look to that of rancort ect

>>13311449
Any way to style bean mocs without looking dumb? I want some for wet days.

>>13314601
No they always look stupid as shit just buy the 8” boots if it’s wet and nasty enough for you to need specialized footwear then it’s too wet and nasty for those the mocs

Gonna dump

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>>13316999

>ITT: poorfags trying to imitate rich WASPs in an attempt to be anti-"libtard" establishment

don't know how many times ive read a person on here claiming they dress prep because "it pisses off libtards lmao" and because of a romantic view of the 1950s

>>13312936
http://www.kamakurashirts.net/shop/pages/find_your_size_step1.aspx
might be useful for you

>>13317054
what are you even going on about you fucking dunce
fuck off cunt

>>13314601
just got give your pants a cuff and dgaf attitude.

They are surprising comfy and great at keeping your dry

>>13316979
ew

>>13317054
prep is much more 1940s 1960s or 1980s desu anyway
skipped decades

>>13314457
I've had the signature version for nine or so months, and I really can't complain. I do wish that the outsole were a darker color, though.

>>13311457
I’ve heard Tokyo fit is very slim so be careful

>>13317003
Someone ID that style of jumper plz?

>>13318510
https://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/threads/a-trad-what-are-you-wearing.48726/page-3851
It’s probably really old, so you should look for another cricket sweater.

>>13317054
but I am a rich WASP who goes to Oxford

I like to take certain elements of stuff like this (the British equivalent) and work them into my fits because it suits my aesthetic, and it's interesting to see what Americans do with it too

Ironically, I think, prep threads are one of the least pretentious parts of /fa/ as a whole

>>13318432
It is quite slim and the one shirt I have from them shrinked quite a bit. It is a pretty snug fit, more than I would prefer but it's still one of my favourite shirts. Great collar roll and unbeatable in its price range. It's a shame they're not implanted in europe.

>>13318589
My sister went to Oxford, I went to Durham. Loved it but can’t tell you how jealous I am!

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>>13318589
>WASP
>P
Anon, why ?

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>>13311404
Can a based anon post the Ivy Illustrated scan that shows how to color coordinate different suits?

>>13318759
>being catholic

How can you defend Catholicism in this day and age where your pope is a legitimate heretic?

>>13318759
'beware the Anglo-Catholics. They're all sodomites with unpleasant accents'

>>13318834
Untrue.

>>13318517
Copped one today :)

>>13311444
Id on shoes

>>13316994
Asian Reagan

Is it possible to combine sneakers with a preppy style?

>>13317054
sort of true, am poor. not trying to make a statement, not trying to be anti anything, but i do feel like im aping a culture a dont belong to when i try to dress ivy. i fantasize about living as an upper class new englander, wearing anoraks and smelling salt water and shit. but im a broke flyover mutt. lol.

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>>13318749
jesus fuck just carry a backpack.

>>13319152
me on the right

>>13319100
White sneakers (primarily canvas) are pretty popular.

Vintage Di

>wear mainly prep in the Los Angeles area
>luck brings me a prep girlfriend, LTR of many years
>All the instathoties and hipsterhoe shit instantly becomes 2/10 in my book

How am I suppossed to even bounce back if I ever broke up? Women out here have no taste or sense of decency+style

>>13319239
Don't break up

Live a long, fulfilling life together

>>13319250
thank you, by all means, i do not want to break up

my question was a hypothetical...if things dont work out in the future, I know for a fact I could never love another as I do with her.

its also easy gifting her clothes on occasion...her love of oxfords, shorts, chinos, and shoes is almost identical to mine, in brands and in aesthetic

>>13319041
seeves i believe or something like that

>>13319271
What brands do you frequent anon? I'm in the LA area and both my gf and I want to align with this type of style.

>>13319278
Seavees*
I was just on their site actually.

>>13316995
Mishima <3

>>13319157
A pretty great fit desu, wtc jacket

>>13319284
Im located in the pasadena area and spend time in DTLA, so my knowledge of prep west side and beach cities of LA is crap
that being said, i love going to brooksbrothers in downtown, and the Lake avenue Pasadena Macy's has decent discounts on all things Tommy Hilfiger and Nautica (polo is overpriced, like with every macy's)
Clarks has some stores throughout LA county

When we go shopping, we either travel or order stuff from OC (Fashion island, the outlets in san clemente) for Sperry's, Nautical and Hilfiger outlets, eddie bauer and (with discretion) tommy bahama outlets.
She loves vinyard vines (dude cute whales lmao)

there are a couple of east coast custom made shops i used to order from, cant remember the name but I will post links if i remember again

tl;dr my gf and I generally like BrooksBrothers, tommy hilfiger, nautica, vineyard vines, and polo as our easy go-to options

tl;dr again
I avoid j crew, lacoste, ll bean

>>13319317
>I avoid j crew, lacoste, ll bean
>i avoid ll bean
leave this place

R8 my bow tie just copped

>>13319423
boofuckinhoo

>>13317054
>be me
>Live in New England
>Not White
>left leaning centrist
>Middle Class

I take certain pieces from WASP culture because I like how some of it looks, esp on me. I'll wear a j press shaggy dog wool sweater with a pair of cheap dickies and vans slip ons because that's how I roll.

>>13319425
Assuming that's Ralph, pretty poor man

Imitation 'club' shit is one part of 'preppy' fashion which I fundamentally disagree with. Maybe it's a cultural thing because I'm British, but here those kind of ties are reserved for actual clubs or schools you belong to. At uni I had my Oxford tie. my college bow, a sports team bow, and a bow from a society I belonged to (and my old school tie, which I never wore). Barely wear them nowadays but I feel this is one thing you can't 'buy into'

>>13316979
bing bing wahoo

Whats the one thing, your guilty pleasure that does not fit the trad/prep wardrobe you have?
For me is the Apple Watch.

>>13319586
Yes, faux club is very divisive. I’m British too, but I like the aesthetic. I would have bought my own university and college ties if the colours weren’t so loud. I like Ralph Lauren’s playful attitude towards traditional WASPy motifs. The ties I own don’t just feature crests; they include skulls, foxes and tennis rackets too. Arriviste, perhaps, but very easy on the eye in my opinion. There was a great post on Ivy Style about this topic. The consensus seemed to be in favour, as long as you don’t wear the ties of institutions you aren’t affiliated with. Regardless, a major part of preppy style is imitation. Your logic forbids ownership of regimental ties by those not in the military; tartan by those who do not belong to a Scottish clan and boat shoes if you don’t have a nautical background. Those are all prep staples; the difference lies in the degree of pretence.

>>13319675
Prep shouldn’t be a costume. Dressing up as though you live in the past is fedora-tier. Wear the watch and don’t obsess over preppy style. The whole point of the look is to be casual and unaffected.

>i can wear my anorak comfortably again
it's a good time

>>13319100
Tretorn nylites, Keds, retro NBs and Stan Smith are all classic prep shoes.

>>13319675
Probably slimmer suits and jackets. Sack suits look like shit with their “casual” appearance since they’re just bulky.

>>13319425
It's more european bourgeois, consider a rep stripe instead.

any good chino brands? i hate low rise pants and most chinos are pretty low quality in general.

>>13322942
Bump for this. Ralph, Hilfiger, every high street brand is awful for chinos

I've been shelling out for Ede and Ravenscroft straight fit, then tumble drying them to shrink into a better fit

>>13317054
t. communist trans rights activist

>prep
nothing says more: "In my inner, I'm allready old and boring."

Going to lawschool in Germany you see quite a lot of people running around like this. The fun part however, if you go to court and look at the laywers and judges, barely anyone runs arround like this. Its a self-running meme.

>>13323018
I agree while i like prep, but why did you post that godawful picture. Is this supposed to be good? Lmao

>>13323031
I wanted to post something more youthfull but was blinded by his hair and cute face

>>13318764
Also interested.

>>13319463
lmao sounds like shit, poast a pic fag

>>13323018
It's a simple and reliable style. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, though the lack of innovation is pretty stifling.

>>13323018
Why is there one of those faggots in every single thread

Why did college students look so much older back then?

>>13323485
Because the're our parents

>>13323179
its ok, dad.

>>13323967
shite patter

>>13323179
I feel like we kinda need them though, they keep the threads running with their incessant grandpaposting.

Where do you guys draw the line between frat and prep? Both styles rely on the same staple items, so is it just a matter of demeanor and dressing like a normal person instead of pastel puke?

>>13324851
Prep also has a lot more stuff people would have worn outdoors last century, like Barbour and cricket sweaters.

>>13324851
Prep is classic style and brands that have stood the test of time.

Frat is new money or pastel explosions

>>13325715
The word prep has slightly different connotations than classic style, it's more wasp, and to a lesser extent costal elite. Classic men's clothing is more European bourgeois

>>13323018
faggots

>>13325750
>faggots

>>13325833
No you

>>13319423
with you on jcrew and much of llbean nowadays but lacoste polos are good if you get the classic kind
even better if you can thrift them
or even better if they were your fathers/grandfathers

>>13324851
>frat
Unless you're in an Ivy League or a classic New England school, it's a forced style. Being in Greek life has it's own blend of elitism and to conserve that, "frat" style is enveloping a uniform that sets them apart from "GDIs" and it's tiring. This is how Vineyard Vines, Southern Tide, Southern Proper, etc., are still in business because they're staples for those trying to find an identity. You very rarely see these brands in traditional settings, unless it's forced because VV sponsored a regatta or something of that nature.

>prep
If you've read Take Ivy, that's the gist of it. Prep is colloquially short for "prep school" where some had uniforms and generally speaking, their attendees were generally from wealthy New England families, where dressing like that was the norm. Through time, it's never really changed because a lot of prep staples are tried and true; why change something that has always worked? Old money doesn't spend lavishly on clothes, cars, or things to set them apart; money is invested in real estate, boats, and other things that have longevity. The clothes you wear on your back are just clothes; there's nothing more than that. Look at KJP, the majority of his wardrobe is hand-me-downs from his father.

>>13326511
KJP isn't a very good example, he dresses pretty bad. Also I remember him saying in an interview to the NYT that neither he nor his dad are prep, just regular new england folks. I think some of his polo shirts might be hand me down, better than nothing but the really interesting hmd stuff is bb shirts and sport jackets. They just don't make them like they used to, or they're hard to come by.

>>13326511
>KJP, the majority of his wardrobe is hand-me-downs from his father.
Lies, the man buys a shit ton from outlets, Brooks Brothers specially, I worked at brooks while in college and was able to look up his account and see all the trash he bought from the outlet stores and the retail lower end Red Fleece line.
Plus he buys from J.Crew outlets a lot too, the man is a quantity over quality kinda guy.

>>13326477
If that's you in the pic, you might want to get your collar widened a little, the tightness is messing up the roll.

I'm considering getting some yellow gth's, any way to style them (pic pretty unrelated)

>>13327151
Pale yellow seems like a pretty safe gth option.
I don't own pants of that color but I would wear it casually, not really into the yellow pants + blue sport coat style. White or blue or candy stripe ocbd, white sneakers or penny loafers for an easy summer fit

On the topic of GTH, i was gifted this madras (well, fake madras actually, it was made in Japan, not India) parka. I like it a lot and think it would be nice for rainy summer days, but I'm not sure what i should wear it with. Something simple like a white OCBD, navy shorts and white sneakers or boat shoes maybe ?

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Front

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>>13327899
yeah keep the rest simple, the jacket stands out enough on it's own

Does /prep/ have the stones for this beauty from Rowing Blazers?

>>13327840
what would you think abut yellow critter pants?

>>13327971
pic related

>>13328026
That would look better with any other brown leather shoe. I don’t understand the boat shoes with pants look

>>13328026
Why do people wear boat shoes when not on a boat?
The design?

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>>13328047
they're probably the most casual you can get without going canvas sneaker, and i didn't think sneakers would go well with the jacket. you could also go weejuns though if you like them better.

>>13328026
Swap those boat shoes out for some loafers, or brown derbies.

>>13328533
the same reason why you wear a barbour hunting jacket despite never using a gun in your life

>>13311454
can someone explain this. what is van

>>13311715
wrong

>>13311721
where to get budget tank watch

>>13313889
bush mobb

>>13328644
http://www.van.co.jp/
It's a japanese Ivy/americana brand.

Bump

I'm thinking of getting pic related and removing the laces, thoughts?

>>13319463
j press shaggy dog is prep obviously
dickies are prep if you get the classic ones. they were marketed sold on campuses back in the day and were worn by tons of students
vans slip ons and authentics are based on canvas boating shoes, therefore also prep

>>13330184
would add converse deck stars or classic keds as well

>>13330119
But why?

Honestly there are three different main styles of the frat/prep look. Deep south, Mid-Atlantic and New England.
a few of the differences are polo shirts are still big in the south, mid Atlantic is more laid back,long sleeve Ts, ll bean boots, Patagonia vests. New England is closest to the classic prep roots today

>>13330834
Where do you go to school, gayboii?

>>13330834
The deep South also has pastel shorts, which I'll never forgive them for.

>>13330184
>>13317054

Sorry but I disagree with these attitudes towards style.

Prep (IMO) is:
clean personal grooming with an emphasis on a natural look
a focus on classic cuts that last forever (medium size lapels, clothes that aren't too slim-fit)
a focus on high quality clothing that isn't ostentatious
natural fabrics
casual
sporty

Whilst certain brands might embody these qualities, prep is more than just a list of brands or a socio-economic status. In fact, many of these attitudes towards clothing would appeal to people from more humble backgrounds.

Seven Sisters > Ivy League

>>13332664
It's about having cloths that embody all the things you said but also reflect a specific rich lifestyle that old money live.

>>13317054
>>/fa/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=libtard
i can't find any libtard references in prep threads. actually it seems like it's mostly you spasing out ironically. what's going on big guy?

>>13332664
I'd say there's a pretty undeniable brand association. Look at the attachment to something like Brooks Brothers or J. Press, for instance, despite the fact that their suits are pretty shit compared with their competitors.

>>13333251
>compared with their competitors.
Such as ? Legit question, I'm interested.

>>13333431
They don't really have direct competitors, but anything with at least half canvas construction beats them out.

>>13333591
That's the point of sack suits though, they're completely unstructured. Italians sometimes do it for summer sport coats but the actual american sack suit is a rarity and in my opinion doesn't work on everybody.
If you want a prep canvassed suit there's a few details to look for: 3/2 roll and natural shoulders. Some also insist on no darts and hook vent.

>>13333431
This infograph is cancer

>>13333641
But a lot of Brooks Brothers suits are structured, just with a glued interlining that makes it stiff and eventually bubbles up.

>>13333712
Modern Brooks has nothing to do with old Brooks though. People need to stop recommending it.
J.Press is still legit though.

>>13333251

If prep is playing dress-up with various brands, I don't want to be prep.

>>13333641
>the point of a sack suit is to have no canvas
no, the point is for it to fit on you like a sack, hence the name and lack of darts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y32yqkSU5_ZnVO7ub_B5Y6J9E_izu6qD6nwdzw7V1HU/htmlview#

>>13333778
I’m not saying that it’s entirely built on brand association. Like nearly any style, it’s more about the items than anything else. However, some brands that are clearly outdone by competitors in terms of quality, price, or both (I think J. Press is the biggest example of this) still stick around because of that association.

>>13333785
>the point is for it to fit on you like a sack
Yeah and that's why they're traditionally unstructured i.e. neither fused nor canvassed. It's just a piece of cloth

Anyone got some brands that make quality shirts with substantial collar roll for Europeans? Looking for shirts around 100 euros

Here's what I've tried so far:

>Gant Rugger £80 often on sale (Made in shitty sweatshops oxfords are a bit thin though)
>A Day's March £70 (made in Portugal) My current favourite brand.
>Triple Stitched £100 (made in England) somewhat lame collars and slightly short.
>Howards £140 (Way too expensive but beautiful shirts. Somewhat limited button down selection)
>Hilditch and Key/Turnbull and Asser £150 (fits are very big but the quality of materials are undeniably great. Limited button down selection.
>Gitman Vintage £140 (made in USA beautiful fabrics, beautiful collar roll, incredibly stupid short af shirt length. I wouldn't buy again.)
>Bellerose £120 (made in Portugal, beautiful collars and materials, sadly the fit is very weird and the shirts rise up on the sides making them too short on the side to tuck in and too long in the front to leave untucked)
>j.crew (crap materials, made in sweatshops, always on sale, skimpy amounts of materials)


I'm waiting on shirtonomy and cotton society orders (online mtm services) so hopfully they'll be good. I'll probably try Swann & Oscar at some point as the selection of fabrics look great.

>>13333805
>no fuse or canvas
From a quick search, they just use a thinner canvas. Using no canvas at all is a terrible idea since the canvas is what gives the suit any sort of weight. And even then, any level of fusing is a sign of lower quality, and it is pretty common in B.B. and Press’ suit lines. If you look at the Google docs link I posted, you can see that those two rank lower than a bunch of other suit makers for a variety of reasons.

>>13333814
Does Kamakura not ship to Europe? They’re where I get mine from as an Americlap.

>>13333834
They do but I'll get slapped with import fees. Postage also raises the cost above European brands I know of comparable quality.

>>13333814
I'm trying a shirt from Swann et Oscar. Which of these collars would be good?

>>13333831
Well an unstructured jacket will basically look like shit if don't have a good body in the first place, since there's nothing to shape it. The appeal of it is it's lighter, more comfortable and looks more relaxed. Which is why italians like it and brits mostly don't.

Also what about shirt fabrics? Which do you like? Looking for something casual.

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>>13333853
Probably the one you have selected. Though the Grand Col Amalfi has longer collar points, the buttons are positioned way lower to compensate, resulting in a pretty weak roll. Either of the tattersall patterns is pretty casual, though you might look like a picnic blanket.
>>13333842
You should look into Michael Spencer's shirts. They might suffer from the same import fee since they're made in the USA, but their quality seems pretty nice. However, I have not bought any of their stuff and am mostly going off of this blog post: http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/2015/10/michael-spencer-ocbd-review/
>>13333849
I am genuinely having trouble finding suits without any canvas or fusing whatsoever, and the results I have found suggest that it's pretty disastrous. I don't think that either brand even provides such a thing, and they instead opt for fully fused, half fused, or fully canvassed suits. Even moving beyond the canvassing stuff, their suits fall short in a variety of ways. That's not to say that they're bad, it's just that there are way better alternatives for the same or less.
https://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/threads/your-opinion-a-suit-jacket-without-canvas-without-lining.95678/

>>13333864
>You should look into Michael Spencer's shirts

Will do, thanks. What shirts do you typically buy?

>>13333885
As I said, I normally buy mine from Kamakura in their slimmest fit. If I were to buy some from Michael Spencer, I'd probably do the same since it seems like their shirts run pretty large.
Keep in mind that I'm around 6'0", 165 pounds, and have a decently athletic build.

>>13332758
But they don't dress particularly rich trust me I grew up with these guys
they are conservatively spending to keep the money in the family while only spending on a nice bottle of whisky every once in a while or something

>>13333708
Why? Admittedly I mostly ignore the preppiest items (pic related), but it's a good, basic guide.

>>13335140
I do the same, the infograph is good. Rubber mocs or boots are the most disgusting kind of shoes ever made

>>13335140
Can someone add a watches and wallet to go with this guide?

>>13335573
I agree with your exclusions but I don’t understand how you can say the infograph is good when you cross out half of the items on there.
I like the clean traditional prep look but so much of it in this thread becomes playing dressup and this infograph embodies that.

>>13336300
>in this thread becomes playing dressup.
/fa/ is all about dressup.

Roast me /prep/

>inb4 boat shoes with socks comments

>>13336323
There is nothing wrong with wearing socks and boat shoes, if you are wearing long trousers.

I dont like the bag, the rest is quite good, the jersey looks really warm

>>13336323
The good
>white shirt and navy sweater is a god tier combination, and it works with that jacket
>nearly everything seems to fit just right
>burgundy's a great shoe color that really works with navy
The debatable
>not a fan of jeans, so i would pick some lighter colored chinos instead
>pants seem too long (assuming you didn't buy them at that length specifically so you could cuff them)
>if it's cold enough to wear socks, you should probably wear different shoes entirely
>consider a different sock color
All in all it's a pretty good fit. I like it a lot.

>>13336323
if I saw you irl I would smash your book out of your hand and empty your purse

>>13336323
Looks good. I wear boat shoes with socks all the time. It's truly comfy-core.

>>13316994
>left for china to serve in the Japanese army
oof, bad decision my friend

>>13336823
I kind of hit on prep style because I'm tired of having the same clothes as obese illiterate illegal immigrants around me

I'm grappling on the issue though, because douchebags keep coming into the thread and accusing even the less dressy/more casual versions of the preppy look of being pretentious old money dickheads

I think, if you make an effort to not look like an obese illegal immigrant illiterate high school dropout, everyone that is an obese hispanic dropout is going to think you're pretentious douchebag simply because you're not a slob. this is the impression I get

I'm just tired of having the same pieces (jeans, shoes, etc) as literal homeless people,obese people, and criminals

currently I'm on the edge of going prep or maybe full on rich douchebag because people re going to treat me like it by simply not being a slob dressing like a homeless, teenager, or rock music groupie

thoughts? this country is so fucking crass it hurts. some dickhead had adidas on at someone's fucking marriage reception. I don't feel like looking like an absolute slob, but I'm also not old money or anything, but I can't think of any other styles that aren't used by obese, illiterate, basketball obsessed idiots like people ofalmart.com

>>13336858

Try living in Paris. Everyone is wearing black and grey and everything inbetween. If I dare walk out in a yellow coat I get all kinds of strange looks. The groupthink is real here.

>>13336864
been a long time since I lived there. maybe they're putting on muted colors to avoid gaining the attention of migrants trying to rob them

my current location people are literally 60% obese and go around in crosstrainers and gym pants/bad chinos like homeless people or hispanic landscapers

if I even have leather shoes I am immediately a target of criminals

Post more qt prep women pls

>>13337765
w2c belt?

>>13336888
Lol then move faggot.

>>13337765
isnt this just the same as brand clothing. Showing of status trough apparel.
Where is the good old british understatement gone?

>>13338365
for one, prep can be pretty ostentatious
two, the only "showing of status" is the belt (which i could also do without, but university surcingle belts are pretty popular)
>>13338042
like a surcingle belt or that exact type? i can't find the latter

what are some good loafer options for summer /prep/?

>>13339006
I'd suggest weejuns if you need loafers, but you could also get away with driving mocs if you wanna go a tiny bit more casual.

>>13339006
Penny loafers, horsebit/Gucci loafers, and Venetian loafers. Penny loafers are the most popular option. If you're looking for brands, GH Bass, Allen Edmonds, Alden, Quoddy, and Rancourt should cover your needs.

>>13316979
Wtf is he wearing a watch over his sleeve???

>>13332664
youre confusing prep and trad

>>13339001
the specific belt, couldnt find it either
but thanks for putting a name on the belt type :)

>>13339381
yeah i think smathers and branson has a needlepoint belt with stanford's logo on it, though that'll cost you quite a bit of money

>>13311404
Can you guys recommend some brands?

I don't like that Vineyard Vines ostentatious style prep. Brooks Brothers seems to have deteriorated a lot in quality, mainly going off of name recognition at this point.

I really like LL Bean, especially vintage stuff I can get good quality on Ebay. Just looking for quality, usually natural materials, minimal branding, conservative fitting, etc.

>>13333853
love #2 and #7 for summer casual. #3 is good too. the rest are either too formal like #1, 4 and 6 or too similar to tablecloths like #5, 7, 8 and 9

>>13339381
It's a needlepoint belt if you want that same one

>>13339390
As someone who relies on LL Bean for 99% of his stuff, I also like Orvis, Barbour, O'Connell's, and Kamakura Shirts.

>>13317054
t. pissed off libtard

Is this the optimal style for Christian men?

>>13339614
No doubt indeed, without weed, know'm sayn'?

Where do you guys get your chinos? I’ve settled on Orvis, but I’m wondering there are actually better options (like Bills).

bumping

Is this a good fit?

>>13343041
I don't like how the sweater and the pants are the same color, but otherwise I'd say yes.

>>13343041
Nope and it isn't anywhere close to being prep. nigga looks like he's wearing H&M

>>13343041
>henley shirt instead of a light sweater
but why

>>13335756
silver clean watches like a submariner
gold tank watch with brown strap
cheaper silver watch with red white and blue or different colored watch band

for wallets just get a plain black or brown one (bifold) or the needlepoint smathers and branson one but that can be seen as a bit nouveau by some

>>13337765
Smathers and Branson

what do you think of striped polos? I like them but I barely see anyone ever wear them.

Updated prep: same color palette but with modern materials and outerwear. Patagonia/Marmot/Mountain Hardwear etc are the modern equivalent of Barbour jackets

Taper or straight leg chinos?

>>13344632
They're hard to pull off without looking like your mom dresses you. Long sleeve ones are good though.

>>13344668
That's spencercore, and it belongs on /pol/. Part of prep is it never really goes out of style, you can still wear Barbour and quilted jackets even 100 or 50 years after. They were created.

>>13344680
Tapered, just like you legs

>>13344680
Straight legged for most people, tapered for thunderthighs.

>>13344668
this is frat shit

>>13345233
Even if the colors palette is good and everything fits well? Prep doesn’t have to live in a box. How do you differentiate between prep and “frat shit”

>>13344732
aren't those rugby shirts at that point?

>>13345295
It sounds pedantic but traditionally rugby shirts need to have a white collar they often look a lot better for it as well.

>>13344746
Why would a man be wearing an engagement ring?

>>13345295
The pique or jersey fabric of a polo is fairly distinct from the fabric of a rugby shirt. There is also a difference over button material: rugby shirts use rubber, and polos use plastic or some type of shell. Last, while polos typically feature a non-contrasting rib collar (though they can have a more structured collar similar to a dress shirt's), rugby shirts' collars are structured and are (usually) colored a contrasting white. All of that being said, the differences are fairly minimal and unimportant to the average person.

>>13345284
Not that guy, but prep is usually built on established classics, which Patagonia and others are not (yet). I'd also say that their stuff is too casual for the style.

>>13346327
>too casual
Everyone in the prep/ivy pictures that get posted in these threads as inspo is dressed incredibly casual for the time.
Staples of the prep look: tennis sweaters, polos, canvas sneakers, bean boots, boat shoes, Barbour jackets, anoraks, etc are all utilitarian clothing specifically designed for outdoor activities and sports. They only seem formal today in comparison to what most people wear. At the time and on Ivy League campuses the style was dressed down and rebellious.
Is prep a lifestyle or a snapshot of a certain place during a certain time period?

>>13346386
>Is prep a lifestyle or a snapshot of a certain place during a certain time period?
it's both, but mostly the latter
you also have to realize that the style was rebellious relative to a fairly aristocratic upbringing, not society in general

>>13346386
>>13346431
Prep has grown to mean something else than what it meant at first. It was originally rebellion from affluent families and cultured society while still staying within a dress code. Now it has connotations of that elitism it was rebelling against, so the context at which we look at prep cloths has changed.

Is prep acceptable if you have a buzzed head?

I'm trying to balance the buzzed head and I think if I wear black jeans and band shirts I'll look fucking insane

what the fuck do i wear on my feet when i'm wearing shorts

>>13347310
Loafers, canvas sneakers, boat shoes, mocs but all with no show socks.

>>13347325
if you're a pussy maybe

>>13347325
White crew socks with sneakers. No socks with anything else.

>>13347381
If you wear socks with shorts and preppy shoes people associate you with the dudes in Nike socks and sperrys.

>>13347953
Do you dress for yourself or other people, pussy?

>>13348127
>Don't matter what other people think, just wear what you feel like

>>13348136
If you’re worried about what other people think then you’re not gonna wear hardly any of the prep staples. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>13348141
There's a difference between fitting into normie fashion standards and looking like your don't know shit.

>>13348162
How is wearing crew socks with canvas shoes “looking like you don’t know your shit”?

>>13348162

>>13348162

>>13348207
Ok, you win, let's all wear crew socks with canvas shoes and 2" inseam shorts

>>13348221
>2” inseam
>mfw
What’s wrong with socks? Seriously

>>13348231
White sock and short looks alright. Not a look I would purposefully go for, but say I had to run some quick errands and had nothing much to wear I'd do it without feeling like I'm making a complete idiot of myself. But I would think while dressing in the morning "yeah I'm gonna wear white socks and short today".

That's all for white socks and shorts.

can you guys give me a good rec for a yellow rain jacket?

I don't think I want a pvc slicker, so are there better, more breathable options?

>>13348493
I think they makes your legs look more proportional, especially if you have long skinny calves and your shorts are on the shorter side. I think it looks somewhat athletic too and I like that undertone

>>13348546
https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/2015/04/rain-jackets.html
i'm pretty fond of my ll bean one

>>13343041
This isn’t prep

What about watches?
What sort of watches are good to combine with the preppy/trad style?

>>13349000
Orient Bambino
Tissot Visodate
Timex Weekender

>>13349000
Anything casual. I personally really like light colored faces and NATO straps.

>>13349000
Anything casual and analog. I personally really like light colored faces and NATO straps.

Is anyone here prep that doesn't go to private school/ivy?

Going shopping tomorrow for some summer clothes, anything I should look for specifically? Kind of new to the style, already have some nice polos and chinos. Super interested in Ralph Lauren

>>13347953
i'm saying you shouldn't wear those pussy balerina socks and just wear your loafers like a man
if you can't dress the way you want to because
>wahhhh my pussy hurts my feet are all sweaty
just give up

>>13349550
honestly ivy's aren't even prep anymore
you have to go to the smaller schools to find the actual prep stuff and not just fratshit

>>13349714
Shorts, some madras shirts (be careful since these can go from stylish to obnoxious real fast), maybe some rugby shirts (ditto), and some oxford cloth button downs.

>>13349714
>>13349851
Also, avoid pastels if you are trying to build up a core wardrobe. They're too bold to incorporate into your outfits on a regular basis, so you should hold off and look at darker or more standard colors instead.

bump

>>13349719
Enjoy smelly feet mong

>>13350872
>what is baby powder?

>>13351385
then enjoy sweat/baby powder paste on your feet, its almost summer you know.

Summer bump

>>13352154
>buttoned all the way up
enough

Why do most people wearing prep (irl, not your model pics) look like weak fags and evoke the feeling in you to flush their heads in the toilet?

>>13353377
cause you're a poorfag

>/youknowihadtodoittothem/

>>13353377
cope

>>13354026
He was more frat, also he was a shitty dresser in general

>>13353094
Ik, I just panicked when I saw what page we we're on and it was the first I could find

>>13328632
daddy
normy
pajamas
spring pajamas

>>13336323
Dadcore, if you're in your mid 30s, that's ok i guess.

Also, joli sac à mains.

Has anyone bought from Mercer & Sons?

I know their fit is Brooks Traditional which is huge in the torso but they offer different sizing options to trim it down.

Looking for any advice before giving them a try

>>13339546
I guess it worked lol

>>13350872
Not really an issue as long as you wash your feet with soap and water in the shower and do not wear the same shoes consecutively, change it up so they have time to air out and dry. I do this with my leather drivers and they still smell like fresh leather.

>>13354842
I haven't, but I don't think it's worth trying since you'll have a pretty awkward fit even with those alterations. Try Michael Spencer instead.

Thinking about getting something like these

>>13354899
Have you been in mildly hot weather? it's 90 the grease outside and my feet got sweaty the few times I went sockless

>>13355626
Yeah it's inevitable they will get sweaty. When you're sitting down just lift your heal up and let them air out. I'll go sockless if I get lunch somewhere, not when I have to wear them all day

Help me understand polos. Am I supposed to tuck them into my pants? I look like a fucking walmart employee. Untucked, I look lazy and untidy.

>>13356184
Also what colors?

>>13356184
Wear crisp, fitted polos with ironed collars, and they shouldnt come down too far on your waist (at or slightly above middle of zipper). It's not how people wore them when they first came out, but it's how you wear them now to not look like aslob.

>>13356198
Subtle colors that go with your shorts and pants easily. I personally go navy, washed out forest green, white, dark brown, and white with red accents (school gear).

>>13356184
Definitely avoid the established company colors and instead use others. For instance, I bought a burgundy polo and have a lot of trouble looking like anything but a Target employee when I wear it with khaki chinos, while navy chinos are a bit more forgiving. As for colors, I have navy, white, gray, forest green, burgundy, and light blue. Stick with simple, understated colors before branching out too far.

anyone have this pic with different colours?

W2c a cute brown mac coat for the summer/fall?

>>13356880
Fucking gross. This looks like a guide on how to dress for church.

>>13357165
Bonobos has a nice chocolate one

Help, what are the colour rules for surcingle belts? Are there none?