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Alright, so the last thread is pretty much dead, but I noticed there's a bit of a misconception about sleazecore. Sleaze is not about Hawaiian shirts and gold chains. While those can be used for sleazy fits, simply wearing a Hawaiian shirt will not mean you're sleazy. In this thread, I'm going to break down my interpretation of it so far.

Sleaze, to me, seems to be a combination of three things: flashy, trashy, and masculinity. The first two work in a ratio, which is what differentiates pimp-core, coke-core, kramer-core, and wise-guy-sleaze. Good sleaze fits often indulge in dated clothes that were at one point hot fashion. This includes 70s collars, cuban boots, and old designer items. These are paired with the gold chain, the fake gold rolex, orange-lens sunglasses, and other gaudy accessories that a sleazebag would wear to appear that he has more money than he does. I'll address things done correctly and things done incorrectly in the next posts.

The main thing to hammer home is that you gotta live the sleaze. You've got to be willing to two-time someone if it benefits you. You don't have to be a psychopath, but the sleazy individual is self-centered. You've got to go to seedy strip clubs and not spend any money. You can have a 9-5, but outside of those hours, you're drinking, lying to women, and being selfish in a way that might make people not want to associate with you. I'll address this as well.

I'll keep posting my part, but this thread is for discussing sleaze so that we can build an understanding of it, not just post Hawaiian shirts and ask if they're sleazy.

Welcome to /sleaze/

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One of the main characteristics of being a sleazebag is charisma. You've got to be able to charm the hell out of someone.

Exhibit A is the character Pat Healy from "There's Something About Mary" (very sleazy movie, I recommend it.

Pat Healy is a private investigator hired to track down a guy's high school prom date so they can reconnect. Healy finds her, but uses what he finds to trick the girl into falling for him, and not following through for his client (who's still paying him). Pat Healy is able to kill the girl's dog and resuscitate it, and in doing so, make the girl thing he's special.

While he dresses the part, it's his charm and willingness to lie to this girl and his client that motivates him. You can be dressed prep head to toe, but if you can act like Pat Healy, you're on your way to being sleaze.

>> No.13298638

>I'm the boss of sleaze, you're not sleaze unless I say you are
>Harrumph!

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Exhibit B is a guy named Blue, from "Sucker Punch". While he dresses nicer, he plays two roles. In the fantasy world, he's a nightclub owner who holds girls prisoner to be sold of as prostitutes to clients. In the real world, he's an orderly at a women's psych ward who abuses the patients. He's charismatic in both, but in the fantasy land, he dresses very well: tailored suits, just enough gold and jewelry, and that slick mustache. Guys like Pat Healy probably look up to guys like fantasy Blue.

In the case of Blue, his elegant wardrobe is what makes him a slick character. It makes him come off to the audience, and even to some of the girls, as a legit guy. This is where not dressing like a hobo is the boon of the sleaze. Dressing nicely almost always elicits trust from people. You've got to use that trust to get what you want, whether it's money, women, a place to stay, a free drink, etc. Undeserved trust should be like cologne to a successful sleaze. Even if it's not fully trust, it can mean a chance or a second chance at getting what you want.

>> No.13298663

>>13298638
The reason I'm making this thread is because there's not discussion or good information coming out of the other ones and it makes people think that Exhibit C here will pass as sleaze.

I'm merely explaining what I've gathered. So far the threads include the picture of the guy smoking at a gas station and guys like this thinking it's a costume that can be put on at a whim. This guy is a product of the threads that don't offer any insight as to what constitutes the genre.

Unfortunately, it feels like there's an age cutoff for sleaze. If you're under 30, it'll be harder to just make it a look. Because of this, I'd like to flesh out the details and help guide people to what they want.

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>>13298663
Forgot pic

Exhibit C comes straight from the last thread

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While being a criminal isn't necessary to being sleazy, I've gathered that looking like you might be helps the image. I won't advocate for anyone to break the law for an outfit. Adding the gaudy fake jewelry can help you here. Expensive accessories that appear outside your means can come off as either ill-gotten or make you look like a reckless spender, both of which are sleazy.

Steve Buscemi plays a lot of roles that can give you inspiration for the criminal-look-while-not-being-criminal, although he does play plenty of criminals.

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For more inspiration, I think it's important to think about the origins. When I think of sleazy dudes, I think of the west and southwest in the 60s-70s. There really wasn't a whole lot out there. Cities out there were basically just flashy rest stops in the desert. When tourists started coming through Vegas, you made money by selling them vices or scamming them. Miami was more populated, but parts were definitely similar. I definitely get the sleazy vibe from the 'exotic' part of the US from this era, since there was plenty of opportunity to do dirty while it was being established.

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Here's a little more Blue inspo

>> No.13298704

Nobody gives a fuck about your blog.

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>>13298704
If you build it, they will come

Tony Clifton is a caricature of sleaze, but damn does it hit the right spots.

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Also a caricature, but look how he's using his jewelry and display of expensive looking things to entice you

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>> No.13298772

How about Hunter j Thompson? I feel he's pretty sleazy..

>> No.13298827

>>13298630
I get the personality, but what exactly do I wear to not come off as "dirty tourist"

>> No.13298847

>>13298827
The dirty tourist comment is just a jab at wearing a fresh, clean hawaiian shirt and trying to grease up your hair. I'd look at 70's to 90's mens fashion, especially silk shirts and nightlife stuff. If you limit yourself to the vacation shirt meme and you don't live near a beach, you'll stand out a little too much.

>>13298772
He owns it well, he has that rejection of society component to him

>> No.13298861

>>13298847
You have any more pics for inspo?

>> No.13298866

>>13298847
Do any button ups work, or are there ones I should avoid? Should they always be short sleeve?

>> No.13298873

>>13298704
yet you're here

>> No.13298878

>>13298861
I do, I'll be posting more tomorrow

>>13298866
I'd avoid cotton for the most part. Silk, rayon, and thinner materials are good. I'm still experimenting, but I've got a theory that if you're dressed for the nightlife during the daytime, you'll have some luck

>> No.13298888

I'm not even into sleaze but that was an interesting read. Thanks op

>> No.13298910

>>13298878
Appreciate it man

>> No.13298916

>>13298630
Quality post

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So in that sense I'm assuming my fit is just Hawaiian-shirt core instead of plain sleaze? casting that aside, is it effay?

>> No.13299041

>>13298847
right, i originally used to wear lots of obvious bright hawaiians from thrift stores but ive started wearing non floral rayon shirts and it is much better

>> No.13299052

>>13299040
wear a belt

>> No.13299055
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in your references you’ve overlooked one of the greatest sleaze movies with the epitome of sleaze core character. bobby peru in wild at heart as performed by willem dafoe. anybody interested in sleaze and looking for inspiration this is just about the holy grail.

>> No.13299069

what kind of glasses are considered sleazy

>> No.13299075

>>13299052
wear a noose

>> No.13299080

>>13299075
what is this board if you cant make a suggestion

>> No.13299086

>>13299080
Pay it no mind, I've seen the same tired noose made in like 20 threads this past week, almost confident it's one guy

>> No.13299089

>>13299055
******WILD AT HEART SPOILER**********

Fuck man when he's coming out of the bank just before he dies, when he's got that weird hunched back creep going on, still haunts me to this day.

Also Nicholas Cage's character had an effay as fuck attitude.

>> No.13299102

>>13299040
You're just wearing H&M fit #116. Looks fine but about as basic fashunz can get.

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>>13298772
>>13298847
Hunter S. Thompson definitely has the aesthetic but it's hard to say that he was a sleaze personality-wise. He'd be willing to dupe someone, but it was so he wouldn't get in trouble, not so he could take advantage of them and screw them over. At least, that's what I've gotten from his books and interviews.

I feel like he'd fit sleazecore way more if he was a businessman instead of a writer.

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Is this sleazy enough? It's from Walmart

>> No.13299148

I don't come to sleazecore threads to read. Fuck off newfag.

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>>13299148
Have a meme, then

>> No.13299175

>>13299158
You're literally the guy who kills fashion, music, and other art movements by trying to nail them down to a set of rules. We've been posting these threads for awhile now. We don't need your sleazetheory.

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>>13298630
Just from glancing at the length of the OP, I assumed that this would be a trash thread but you do provide some neat insight into proper sleaze so kudos to you anon. OP is not a fag for once.

Also can slim/skinny jeans be sleaze? Just a thought and for now I think no unless I see a good example. Pic unrelated, just one of my favorite sleazecore fits.

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here is what i was wearing today during the warm night. its more of a euro sleeze with the adis? not sure if its a purely american thing. sleeze or na? you tell me

>> No.13299560

>>13298630
very good and informative thread, thanks for making it, and thanks for including some movies for inspo too.

/sleaze/ is back on the menu

>> No.13299586

The thing is, in which most of these characters are based, their look was somewhat fashionable at the time. Pics of some guy in the 80's wearing a gold watch; well it was fashion then.

Wouldn't modern day sleaze really have a somewhat modern day fashion aesthetic?

Imagine you are in some Northern England town, it's cold, rainy and a little bit dull. You turn up like you just time traveled from 1985 Miami and would you really look sleazy?

Gold chains, hairy chests, strong cologne was the norm for the 80's which is what most of this sleaze is based off.

I love the look but friends call me sleazy in real life. I dress semi-well but as a guy in my 30's I'm at bars hitting on teens (whatever) and I like a couple of drinks say modern afternoon in the city.

Hmm.

>> No.13299589

>>13299586
Ehh Monday afternoon**

>> No.13299598

>>13298638
This.

>>13298651
>>13298675
Not sleazy, just freaks. Whatever you think sleaze is, I don't think that's what /fa/ is aiming for. It's literally just the style

>> No.13299600

>>13299266
what part of this ensemble is supposed to convey sleaziness

get it out of your head that single articles of clothing are inherently sleazy; there isnt a fucking sleaze factory that produces every hawaiian shirt and bowling polo

>> No.13299602

>>13298873
So?

>> No.13299620

Can really long hair be sleaze? Mine reaches to my belly button

>> No.13299623

>>13299598
This

Seriously, this isn't supposed to be a lifestyle

>> No.13299638

>>13299620
Dont think so desu, maybe only shoulder length but with some slick back action going on

>> No.13299659

>>13299055
Thanks for the input, I haven't seen it but I'll add it to my list

>> No.13299661

>>13299175
Op here. I'm not trying to build arbitrary rules for people to follow. I'm trying to generate discussion about a style that clearly is lacking in direction, with the goal of helping people not look like clowns. Yes, there have been threads, but the problem with them is what I've addressed. I really like the sleaze look, and I'll be damned if fits get sent straight to the cringe thread without trying to do my part in helping.

>> No.13299665

>>13299175
ur fkn dumb no offense lul

in his opinion ur lifestyle and wardrobe should complement each other, and I agree with him

sorry not sorry ur just some 18 year old virgin who wishes he could be sleazy but ur just a fkn nerd in a hawaii shirt LMFAO

>> No.13299668

>>13299661
I appreciate it, buddy.

A question on shoes & trousers. Chinos and slacks seem to fit well into sleaze, but what about denim? Blue, black? And shoes too. I'm most commonly seeing black dress shoes with sleaze fits, do others fit? Brown boots? Sneakers?

>> No.13299670

>>13299266
>posts faggy lil photo on 4chan like some teenage girl
>am I sleazy guyys :3??
holy SHIT KYS yourself u fkn trash

>> No.13299672

>>13299266
This is good. I wouldn't say you look Euro though; you look like a young New York Italian mobster. Like your father is the Godfather. There is a certain element to these looks and sleaze if you are handsome which looks way better than some creepy looking fucker. You can't schmooze the women if you look creepy and sweaty. Handsome and sleazy is the way.

>> No.13299673

>>13299266
What part of euro are you in? I'm only familiar with it in an American context, but I'll look into some eurosleaze examples

>> No.13299674

If you're actually living the sleaze lifestyle trust me you won't be on 4chan looking at a fashion board.

>> No.13299675

>>13299673
He might not be, he could just mean his German sneakers make him look more Euro. Which I don't really think is true.

>> No.13299679

>>13299586
You definitely sound sleazy. I'd say if you're going for a sleaze aesthetic, don't try to copy a movie fit entirely. Maybe look through some local classic styles and see if there's anything that might adapt

>> No.13299717

>>13299586
so what is modern sleaze? looking like a drug dealer?

>> No.13299745

>>13299717
California business casual, aka the suit without a tie, and probably a rolex. Says, I'm important enough to wear a suit but i also am a big spender

>> No.13299762

>>13299717
That's the question that they are pondering.

>> No.13299801

>>13298675
w2c tshirt/shirt like that?

>> No.13300026

>>13299801
Look for mock neck shirts, short sleeve is extra sleazy

>> No.13300031

>>13299665
>projecting this hard
Can you re-read your post and not hate yourself?

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>>13299668
wranglers. other color heeled boots definitely work.

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Is Kanye black sleaze here?

>> No.13300240

Where to cop hawaiian shirts in europe?

>> No.13300248

>>13300240
the internet

>> No.13300282

Oh great and wise Sleazecore poster, please help an anon out. Can Asians do sleazecore?

I haven't seen any good pics of sleazy Asians and it really concerns me.

>> No.13300287

>>13300240
Don't know what it's like in europe, but thriftstores are the GOAT for Hawaiian shirts in the US.

>> No.13300311

>>13299266
actually one of the better sleaze fits I've seen posted by a /fa/g. Just let that facial hair get a little messy and get a watch.

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>>13300282

furst thing coming to mind

>> No.13300340

>>13299266
Not really sleaze but an interesting fit. Kinda vada vada

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>>13300282
got this from the other thread

>> No.13300420

>>13299600
>get it out of your head that single articles of clothing are inherently sleazy; there isnt a fucking sleaze factory that produces every hawaiian shirt and bowling polo
what does this have to do with my post? lol
>>13299670
lol
>>13299672
i agree, a part of the whole thing is being cool/somewhat handsome. not saying i am, just saying it helps. being creepy just kinda kills it, sleaze is supposed to be a finesse, you gotta finesse somehow and looks are one way
>>13299673
i am 1st gen polak but living in the US. i try to dress more to my roots
>>13300311
thanks, the lighting is shit but i had some decent scruff. i have watches i just wasn't wearing one at the time

also: people gotta quit jerking off the whole sleaze style to movies. its an idea, and you work around it, its not about trying to replicate some mafioso from a 90s movie. just because its a dated style doesn't mean it can't be adjusted to todays styles

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>>13300282
OP doesn't make the rules. Sleaze is in your heart and your balls.

>> No.13300435

>>13300426
Thanks, anon. I was starting t o get worried.

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Dutch 90s tv show flodder was pretty sleazy

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Last one

>> No.13300550

>>13300495
that must have been 1 of like 10 black women in the country

>> No.13300736

>>13300426
OP here, you're 100% spot on about it being in the heart and in the balls

>> No.13301036

>>13299040
I think people are getting confused because Hawaiian shirts are currently in style, but there's no way that you can pick up a Hawaiian shirt at H&M and wear it like intended and have it come off as sleazecore. stop focusing on the fact that Hawaiian shirts are both being sold at Urban Outfitters and fit into sleazecore, they aren't styled the same and generally have different cuts and prints

>> No.13301039

>>13299266
no on the tennis shoes, socks, and haircut

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>>13299745
i'd say scott disick does modern sleaze/prep sleaze well

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>>13301046

>> No.13301058

>>13298630
>>13298634
>>13298651
the one thing that destroys your whole theory: a real sleaze wise-guy wouldn't be on 4chan looking at some retard's fits and trying to look like X or Y. So your "you have to be/do this in order to be sleaze" is complete and total bullshit. People here just want to look at inspo and try and look and feel good about their clothes, not necessarily screw hookers, do drugs and fuck people over. get real

>> No.13301066

>>13301049
Shirts definitely sleazy ( not in the Hawaiian meme way, but the flexing money way)

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Can I go for sleazecore or too much of a babyface for it?

>> No.13301188

>>13301139
>babyface
Anon...

>> No.13301209

>>13300333
Hahhah this is exactly what came to my mind too!!

>> No.13301213

>>13301139
Nigga you look about 32. Baby face my ass.

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are magicians sleaze?

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>>13301218

>> No.13301223

>>13300282
Just watch any john woo movie ever.

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>>13301222

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>>13301226

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Posted myself a few times, 38 so naturally older works for sleaze, I am bald but have a wig on here. Look sleazy?

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Pic related is the most sleazecore inspiring thing imo
>>13301139
Smoke marlboro reds...

>>13301218
>>13301222
>>13301226
Some may be, these are not

>> No.13301250

>>13301218
Magicians are to sleaze what The Monkees were to the Beatles and Stones.

>> No.13301279

>>13300340
fans of the garden are the worst family

>> No.13301295

>>13301058
Yeh theres something to that but this is real life cosplaying: were taking on a new character with vertain fits. If I want to be the sexy bad boy getting blown in the bathroom I cant just wish it. Getting dressed for the part helps, mostly psychologically

>> No.13301296

>>13298630
>pimp-core, coke-core, kramer-core, and wise-guy-sleaze
reading this actually gave me diarrhea

>>13301058
this is exactly it. if you really had the persona to fit this really specific look, i guarantee you wouldnt be fucking trolling through 4chan gasping for validation from incels. that's why these threads are so stupid

>> No.13301322

>>13301218
More...creepy.
Sleazy guy has strange women performing oral on him in public bathrooms. Magician guy has a friend he's been in love with for three years and holds her bag while she tootles on sleazy guys tool in a cubicle.

>> No.13301330

>>13301244

idk about sleaze but you look mentally disturbed. definitely fitting hobocore

>> No.13301331

>>13298664
W2C his shirt though?

>> No.13301336
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Reading some of OP's posts, Brad Pitt in Fight Club seems like the epitome of sleaze

>> No.13301340

>>13301331
http://www.hm.com/us/product/71137?article=71137-F

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>>13301336

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>>13301330
Hahah I just have a weird smile, it looks forced. Here is me naturally without the wig.

>> No.13301347

>>13301336
except wasn't his whole point to bring down capitalism, not to prove his wealth...like a sleazebag would?

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>>13301342

>> No.13301351

>>13301336
for sure, though his looks obscure shit a bit too much

>> No.13301355

>>13301347

That's true, but he did play into a lot of the other stuff OP mentioned

>Trashy
>Charismatic
>Screwing people over to get ahead

just to name a few

>> No.13301358

>>13298664
what is it about this guy thats so incel...? I mean he isnt a bad looking guy but theres something off

>> No.13301359

>>13301355
he doesn't care what he looks like tho, a sleazebag would. they're bother dirty, but tyler never showered, while a sleazebag showered, did his hair, drenched himself in cologne, and then stayed up for three days gambling.

>> No.13301363

>>13301358
incel? you're looking for "soy". and it's because he's effeminate looking

>> No.13301364

>>13301359

You got a point. So was Tyler half sleaze? What core would he fit into then?

>> No.13301366

>>13301346
cleanse, tone, and moisterize

get botox

never smile again

>> No.13301784
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You guys forgot about sleaze 101, the bowling shirt

>> No.13301791

sleaze shit includes
>putting your arm around girls who don't want it
>calling waitresses "honey"
>calling random women baby
>catcalling
>snubnose revolvers
>bender diner runs to get pancakes
>sleeve tats
>being a child of divorce
>being divorced yourself
>getting kicked out of dive bars
>trying to get into college parties even though you're 35+
>casual anti-semitism
>shag carpeting
>buying liquor you can't afford
Like other people have said, it's more than just a hawaiian shirt and a cigar

>> No.13301795

>>13301791
>>sleeve tats

lost me on this one

>> No.13301797

>>13301791
Yeah no tattoos

>> No.13301799

>>13301797
>>13301795
>>13301791
Maybe a couple shitty ones, but definitely no sleeves.

>> No.13301803

>>13301799
drunken bet tattoos and maybe old navy tattoos. or something like an ace of spades or something to bring luck.

can micks be sleaze? i'll accept tattoos on them

>> No.13301836

yeh tats dont fit this aesthetic at all

sleazecore brings to mind a guy from a decent background who just doesnt give a fuck. Sleeve tats bring to mind a retard

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>>13301803
>>13301799

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was hunter thompson /sleaze/?

>> No.13301876

>>13299114
that's great

>> No.13301879

>>13301876
wish it didn't go across the yoke (?) in the back though

>> No.13301917

>>13301866
He was, he embodied drug sleaze.

I’ve been accidentally working on this aesthetic for a while now, spent my twenties a drunkard with money and an out of character sales job(literally sold used cars) trips to Asia, hitting on women with their boyfriends around, drunken fights, now I’m broke going all in on a pipe dream and picked up a coke habit. All the while /fa/.

There should be sub genres of sleaze; drug sleaze, playboy sleaze, rich sleaze etc

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>>13298638
>>13298704
>>13299148
>>13299175
>>13299602
>>13299598
>>13299623
>>13301058
Honestly, there are a couple things to address here. Mostly that here- on a fashion discussion board- god forbid we actually /discuss/ fashion and develop lore and critique style. This actually helps solidify movements in art and culture. Literally anyone in art knows this. Surrealism, Vaporwave, Imagism, G-Funk, and Hardcore all have been preserved by conversations and critiques about the genre they were within. What did and what didn't belong inside and so on.

Further, the idea that you can't be sleaze if you're on a fashion board is kind of misguided considering the diversity of posters and age range. Why couldn't I be into Ricks or whatever the fuck and casually browse the board while at the bar coming back from doing cocaine in the bathroom with two hookers? Even if they are just incels, what's stopping them from using trial and error to develop into the type of person they wanted to be through fashion? Isn't that the whole point of fashion??

TLDR; why the fuck are you complaining about discussing fashion on a fashion board. The levels of stupidity has to be at least partially intentional.

>> No.13302043

>>13301358
he has narrow af shoulders

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excellent thread op and definitely agree with your trashy flashy manly rule. Ignore the bitching, most people here can't word a single line to justify why they like x kind of style besides "it's fa". Detailed conceptions are always welcome and give way more quality discussion than any gay core thread these kids spam all day long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SYpSl0XfGw

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>>13299266
You look like you could fall under this umbrella

>> No.13302070

>>13301791
>Casual anti-semitism
lmao tru

>> No.13302082
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why are italians so naturally sleazy?

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IF YOU LOOK LOW TEST YOU WILL NEVER PULL OFF SLEAZECORE

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>>13302097

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>>13302129

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>>13302132

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cop or no?

>> No.13302149 [DELETED] 

>>13302146

cop

>> No.13302328

>>13302146
i luv it

>> No.13302332

>>13302146
w2c?

>> No.13302342

im getting a 404 on all the latest images?

>> No.13302385

>>13301213
>>13301188
Wtf I literally have to show my identity to buy alcohol and cigarettes, now I'm feeling shite

>> No.13302403

>>13302385
you realise that they ID by law, right?

>> No.13302450

Any sleaze approved hats?

>> No.13302456

Should button ups always be tucked in?

>> No.13302459

>>13302456
No, but chest should be visible.

>> No.13302461

Are grey skinnies sleazy? Or should I get black ones? Can I make them work with the right fit?

>> No.13302462

is chest hair /sleazecore/

>> No.13302463

>>13302385
Sorry man. Good news though, your face has a high sleaze threshold.

>> No.13302592

>>13302385
Nigga, I am 35 and get carded, they often do it to double check, not necessarily because they believe you are a young peanut. I do look about 25 though.

People think looking like a baby is good. It's not. Looking about 30 is good. If you look 30 at 18 and 90 at 30 then it's bad. Very bad. The key is to look 30 at 18 and never change. I've looked the same way for the past 15 years.

It means teen girls still hit on you and older women do too.

Don't sweat it, you look like a sleazy fucker selling fake ecstasy tablets in a nightclub bathroom. NICE.

>> No.13302643

>>13301223
I'll check some out

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>>13302643
always find it surprising that some people haven't seen hong kong cinema. that poster mostly means hard boiled, a better tomorrow, and killer btw. if you've seen john wick 2, it has some nods to hong kong action. it's important to not take it too seriously, they play around with tongue and cheek scenarios in an otherwise serious situation. i know some westerners that absolutely hate that, but i think it's interesting.

>> No.13302713

>>13302146
Nearly 300 Euro....but fuck it. Get it!

>> No.13302718

>>13302061
yeah I agree also but it's very valid that op doesn't have any authority to label what's sleaze. my only problem is that he wrote this post objectively when it's just like his opinion man.

>> No.13302835

Is guy fieri sleaze?

>> No.13302837

>>13302718
He did say it was his interpertation

>> No.13302881

>>13301358
Look at his reflection

>> No.13302883

I'm only 24 so sleaze is hard. What shoes do I go for with black track pants and an old bowling shirt from the alley I work at? I have the facial hair, rings and chains for the look i think.

>> No.13302885

>>13300340
Kys

>> No.13302999

>>13300107
kayne had the cash tho

>> No.13303009

>>13302883
Caricature of sleaze, don’t go all into a “look”, You’ve style right? Sounds like you’re dressing for Halloween.

>> No.13303010

>>13299266
This is good. It'd look cooler if you had a stache

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is this sleazy?

>> No.13303228 [DELETED] 

>>13303225

looks low testosterone

>> No.13303249

>>13302835
Guy Fieri is more like an edgy teenager in the early 00s.

>> No.13303910

>>13302062
So fucking money

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who wants to collab and open a temple?

>> No.13303917

Got a question does one need to not have an undershirt? Or would an undershirt still work?

>> No.13303922

>>13303916
I live close to the original one in SF. All you gotta do is bring the coolaid

>> No.13303937

>>13303916
Peoples Temple x Supreme collab, when???

>> No.13303956

>>13302461
I haven't come across skinny pants of any kind that I think of as being sleazy. Loose-fitting or straight leg dress slacks mainly come to mind

>> No.13303960

>>13303956
bellbottoms are god tier sleaze core.

>> No.13303966

>>13302718
Op here,

One of the things I mentioned over and over is for it to be a discussion among posters. I wanted to give my thoughts on the topic so far as a starting point, mainly to see if people disagree on anything major. I know I'm not the authority on the topic, I just wanted to build more productive threads

>> No.13304038

>>13299040
Too skinny. Skinny is good, but you might as least want to get some muscle definition, which is accompanied by weight gain. Sleazy guys are by no means meatheads, but they ain't stick either.

>>13299266
Sort of works. You are a bit too conventionally attractive. Could use a watch, but it's good overall.

>> No.13304057

>>13303009
Perhaps bad wording on my end but bottom line any shoe recs?

>> No.13304386

>>13303966
In your opinion do could someone wear an undershirt with the button up?

>> No.13304435
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Would Johnny Thunders be considered a king of sleaze fashion, or is he too rock n roll?

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>>13304435

>> No.13304453

>>13304435
Love Thunders. Sleaze was in his heart but not his clothes.

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>>13304453
u sure about that?

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>>13304453

>> No.13304487

>>13298630
>>13298634
>>13298651
And why is this desirable?

>> No.13304525

>>13302592
>a sleazy fucker selling fake ecstasy tablets in a nightclub bathroom.
Did this yesterday.
Thanks mate, I think was the pic, and I look way younger, but if I do look like I'm in my 30s I'm happy with it, I like looking older. Younger girls do hit on me, older woman too, that's kind of cool. I was kind of sad with the thought that I looked 16

>> No.13304528

>>13299717
modern sleaze is a combination of streetwear and terrorwave to produce the street criminal look. Another variant is prep sleaze, where someone dresses imimmaculately preppy/yuppie but has a very disheveled look, like a high functioning alcoholic. Then there's midwest sleazecore, which is basically looking like a neo Nazi without saying youre one, basically denim trucker jackets, combat boots/timberlands, cargoes.
also, longer, hopefully shoulder length hair is a must. Push it back/go for a "bro flow" style, never let it droop down like a girl. This goes for all variants.
Finally, the point of these looks is to not look like you try. Looking all clean and perfect makes you look feminine and fake. Don't wear it like a costume, wear it on a lazy day when you don't feel like putting effort into your look.

>> No.13304529

>>13302403
Not where I live, but that's cool man, looking older always was my goal, that's why I picked up smoking to begin with

>> No.13304810

>>13301248
I only smoke yellow camels or red marlboros, got kind of bored from marlboros last year tho

>> No.13304832

>>13304475
Yeah he was kinda biting Willy Deville later in life, but both of them are too quaffed in my opinion, but I can understand how someone could see either a sleaze.

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>>13304832
Forgot pic

>> No.13304899

>>13304832
the thing about johnny is he had a naturally sleazy appearance so everything he wore looked sleazy.
You could consider him a god of sleaze if you will.

>> No.13305080

>>13304386
Yeah for sure. Ribbed wife beater also works

>> No.13305112

>>13303225
yes

>> No.13305129

>>13300495
>>13300504
based

>> No.13305198

are there any good places to shop Hawaiian shirts for besides thrift stores?

>> No.13305203

>>13305198
Flee market

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Apart from Queens of The Stone Age, what are some essential /SleazeCore/ bands?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QetvK6ldl2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcHKOC64KnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj2pOUJ7o_g

>> No.13305558
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Is he /sleazecore/ ?

>> No.13305566 [DELETED] 

>>13305476

>90s dad rock
>sleaze

>> No.13305584

>>13300107
If I was black that’d be my style

>> No.13305585

>>13305558
He's a little too clean if you ask me.

>> No.13305589

>>13301139
You look baby kidnapper mode

>> No.13305602

>>13305476
I don't think your music taste should matter, but I can't think of a band sleazier than The Cramps.

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>>13305476
King of Sleaze

>> No.13305646

>>13305602
the cramps aren't really that sleazy and i love the cramps.
when i think of sleaze i think of disco and funk. That's shit sleazy fuckers would listen to.

>> No.13305659 [DELETED] 

>>13305646

there's also an entire genre called sleaze rock but i can't imagine them listening to motley crue

>> No.13306121

>>13305609
this

>> No.13306335

>>13298630
This is perfetto, thanks OP.

>> No.13306351

>>13304528
Sleaze is formal wear with a gaudy twist. Everything else you just mentioned is irrelevant.
If it's not smart, it's not sleaze, you just look like a tourist.
>>13305476
Giorgio Moroder invented the sleaze sound
>>13305609
Objectively no, Cave is a parody, just watch him live.
>>13305646
>disco and funk
close enough

>> No.13306493

>>13306351
Nick Cave kills it live. What do you mean?

>> No.13306835

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRgiPqRmd0

king of sleazecore

you can only be /razorramoncore/ if you're 6'5"+ and jacked and hairy though. otherwise you're just an /fa/ twink larping

>> No.13306858

>>13301366
KEK

>> No.13306885

>>13299040
budget slp, which isnt even in style anyways. you look gay.

>> No.13306900

>>13306885
>slp invented shitty florals and skinny jeans

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>>13299107
This is accurate, Thompson as a "sleeze" icon is really only relevant in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Most of his style is a mix of Americana and other influences

>> No.13306953

>>13301784
this post just convinced me to cop one

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>> No.13307229

>>13307166
thats a nice shirt

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>>13305609

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>>13298630
>>13298634
>>13299178
>>13300107
very sleazy

thank you for this thread OP, although I don't indulge in sleazecore myself you've basically documented something that isn't talked about but floats around in everyones mind and is also hilarious and entertaining in a weird way to look at

>>13301791

>> No.13307607

>>13298664
>>13299266
>>13301044
>>13301046
>>13301049
>>13301222
>>13301244
>>13302684
not sleazy

>>13301139
you look 40 first of all but yeah I think you could pull off sleazecore

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>>13305476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Qwl_9OoI8

>> No.13307685

Thanks for putting this together OP, I have been unintentionally dressing in this style for about 2 years, mainly bc its comfy af. Every Hawaiian shirt I own, I bought on a bender. I always (somewhat ironically) compare my style to 70s porn stars. I'm happy to see others have similar tastes. Now I just gotta get some chains

>> No.13307795

>>13307550
>name my band /fa/

>> No.13307821

>>13305198
eBay?

>> No.13308104

>>13307578
midget sleaze pic related

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What is the most /sleaze/core body? except chesthair what is the ideal fat to muscle ratio?

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>>13308712

>> No.13308773

>>13308712
-Body hair of course
-Norwood 2-3, no thinning just straight up narrow-ass peak between temples, like Bruce Willis in Bandits
-5'11-6'0
-Big hands
-Can be skinnyfat or fit it really depends

>> No.13308815

>>13306351
What would you call movies like fear and loathing, or artists like alex cameron? There's nothing close to formal wear, but it's obviously sleazy. Also, I'm referring to modern day sleaze. It'll just look like a costume if you dress like it's the 70s or 80s

>> No.13308818

>>13298664
Shit tats and has no traps

>> No.13308829

>>13305558
Slick the mane and you got it

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sleezecore always reminds me of michael from gtav

>> No.13308847

>>13308773
>Norwood 2-3
Nor.2 here
>5'11-6
5'5 here. IMO shorter is better. Sleazy means being greasy, creepy or otherwise undesirable. Being short and having greasy hair can therefore be good with sleazecore since sleaze does not attempt to be alpha or intimidating.
>skinnyfat
yup thats me

>> No.13308876

I always think if you are tall and built well, a baggy sweatshirt with light jeans and beat up trainers can look sleazy, especially with the right hair and rings ect. Anyone got any inspo with this look.

>> No.13308909 [DELETED] 

>>13308847

>Sleazy means being greasy, creepy or otherwise undesirable.

Sleazecore means being greasy, creepy AND desirable

>> No.13308922

>>13307550
the one on the right with the shades actually pulls it off well, everyone else just looks goofy tho

>> No.13309271

>>13299717
Modern sleaze (at least in Europe) is wearing a tracksuit of you favourite football club during the day and way too flashy brand clothes (mostly Armani, Dsquared, Kenzo, etc) when you go out at night.

>> No.13309278

>>13300282
Play the Yakuza games, plenty of Jap sleaze inspo.

>> No.13309282

>>13301244
You look like an elderly hobo, the type that buys drugs from sleazecore guys.

>> No.13309286

>>13301791
>>sleeve tats
No. A single tattoo on your lower arm or your chest but no elaborate pieces.

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can females be sleaze?

>> No.13309544

>>13309537
Well, it's 2018, so technically yeah, you can do whatever you want

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>>13309537
The female equivalent of sleaze is being elegant and sophisticated on the outside but actually being darker and more troubled than your male counterpart. You'll burn everything to the ground if things don't go your way It's not actually a good look.

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>>13309579

>> No.13309587
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>>13309585

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>>13309579
I'd imagine female sleaze would be Married With Children core

>> No.13309906

>>13299266
Don't listen to the fatties who can't pull off fits.
This is a great fit, I like the ring

>> No.13309929

>>13309802
That's pretty good actually. Definitely sleazy. Her sleazy habits and resentment of her husband encourage his sleazy habits and resentment of her, and vice versa. It's the circle of sleaze.

>> No.13311381

>>13309587

Even better when there is coke on the suit.

>> No.13311464

>>13308773
Im just 5'9 but the rest describes me very well. Besides the fact that i am ugly af and look like a fucking heroin addict, sleaze or junkiecore seem to be the only styles i can nail.

>> No.13311492

>>13308773
my 7.5" bitch hands fuckin ruin everything:(

>> No.13311520

Is the video for the song my own worst enemy by the band lit, sleazecore?

>> No.13311525

R8 my understanding of a typical sleazecore fit;

>Baggy silk shirt with a garish pattern (ALWAYS tucked in and worn with three or four buttons undone and sleeves rolled up)
>Alternatively, an unbuttoned Hawaiian shirt on top of an off-white wifebeater
>In case of cold weather, an unbuttoned brown suede safari jacket with oddly-proportioned pockets and wide 1970s collar
>Black or dark grey full-cut slacks with pleats and cuffs, none of that skinny low-rise bullshit
>Black leather belt (bonus points for faux crocodile grain) with brass buckle
>Loafers or pointy-toed dress boots
>Faux tortoise shell shades
>Gold chain necklace, crucifix optional
>Gold ring engraved with someone else's initials
>Early LED watch with gold plating partially chipped off or an obviously fake Rolex
>slicked-back hair
>dark circles

>> No.13311528

>>13311520
Or how about this https://youtu.be/j4_n1NuIFIM

>> No.13311805

Can sleazecore work outside of the US? I have a pretty strong British accent and don't think that the look would have the same effect.

>> No.13312713

>>13302119
if you are lowtest you literally cant pull off anything

>> No.13312769

Zayns outfit in let me is kinda sleazecore

>> No.13312787

>>13300282

Yes, how is this even a question lad?

>> No.13313702

>>13300282
Base it off your country's fashion, but in the lowlife sector. Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, fuckin Filipino are gonna be different. Be careful if you're living in those countries though. Society (and sometimes govt) are very much against that lowlife look as it'll imply that you may be a criminal

>> No.13314321
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13314321

op make another, this ones dead

also is nighthawks sleaze?

>> No.13315750

>>13302040
The point is that it's contrived in the wrong way, ie. anyone who did dress like this in 1970-90 was doing so to fool marks and feed their delusions of grandeur, not look like they wanted to. Alex Cameron and Nick Cave dress like this (vaguely in the latter's case) because the image lends itself to the type of character they've played and lifestyle their music deals with. It's not something to aspire to. Wearing pinky rings and hawaian shirts is not in itself art.

>Further, the idea that you can't be sleaze if you're on a fashion board is kind of misguided considering the diversity of posters and age range. Why couldn't I be into Ricks or whatever the fuck and casually browse the board while at the bar coming back from doing cocaine in the bathroom with two hookers? Even if they are just incels, what's stopping them from using trial and error to develop into the type of person they wanted to be through fashion? Isn't that the whole point of fashion??

Well, is anyone in this thread posting casually from the bar with cocaine and hookers? If you were that guy you wouldn't be posting in this thread or probably even on this website. Is this r/mfa except instead of rec'ing Americana we tell people to dress like con-artists and 2nd world military from 30 years ago? This shit and that skirts creativity and flies right into the realm of cosplay. It's too steeped in dated cultural reference and nerddom to be artistic. Go buy some cheap shitty drugs, get drunk , fuck some low-rent hookers and and see how you feel. Then come back and postulate about how this shit is going to be the salvation of the neckbeards.

>> No.13316836

>>13298664
Reminds me of Jeffrey Dahmer

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>>13298630
Is this the perfect sleaze-core watch on a budget?

>> No.13317029

>>13298717

wtc shirt?

>> No.13317329

so what pants will go with a hawaiian shirt? I've literally only worn jeans my entire life and I'm trying to branch out a bit. Any suggestions?

>> No.13317337

>>13317329
Chinos, but I'm kinda fond of my straight legged Under Armor track pants with a Hawaiian shirt

>> No.13317364

>>13317337
thanks my man

>> No.13317905

>>13300054
>wranglers
cowboy cut hell yeah fuckin cowboy

>> No.13317911

>>13317013
yes