/fa/ - Fashion

>>13285990
honestly I'm the same way. Mainly it's because I know how their stuff fits and I know what quality to expect so why look elsewhere. Maybe it's not effay to be dressed by a Uniqlo U look book but there are worse possibilities

>>13285990

rick said he's shop only at uniqlo if he were young

>>13285990
You're a premium basic bitch, which is absolutely fine

Can someone recommend good dress/wool pants to get there

>>13285990
yes but who cares

>>13286026
Interested also

>>13286022
>premium
?

>>13286010
/fa/ posters =/= rick but ok

samesies

>>13285990
I actually do this

I don't see the point of spending a premium on basics which are supposed to be super high quality when I can get almost the same thing at Uniqlo at 10% the price. A lot of designer is tacky shit that I wouldn't wear in public anyway(being a walking advertisement isn't my thing, even if it's for expensive brands). I think it helps that I live in a tropical climate so there's no need for expensive outerwear.

>>13286086
basic bitches usually dress at Zara / H&M / other bottom of the barrel trash brands

at least uniqlo sits at the top of the low end, hence the "premium"

>>13286253
uniqlo's construction and materials are on par with those brands, difference is mainly design and styling.

>>13286284
Redpill me on Zara, H&M, and Uniqlo.

>>13285990
no you are not a basic bitch because not everybody wants to pay thousands of dollars to look like a cybergoth ninjaclown. it is rather plain though

>>13286288
there isnt much to say, theyre all fast fashion. they often crib seasonal trends and create diluted copies of popular designer items. quality is meh. the durability isnt horrendous like some people allege (ive had jeans and t-shirts from H&M that last years) and high end stuff tends to be more delicate anyway, so ive never really understood this complaint even where its legitimate.

i think where the cheap quality tends to show most is in footwear and fabric. youll come across garments that seem like they should be made of a more rare or expensive fabric like merino wool or silk, but its often a wool-poly blend

if you buy basics like our bois in the thread are suggesting youll do fine.

>>13286288
from what I've seen, on a 1-10 scale, h&m quality is a consistent 4, uniqlo is a consistent 7, and zara can range from 3 to 7

>>13286357
that's actually accurate tea

>>13286288
>Uniqlo
Literally the most vanilla/plain/basic clothes you can buy. They are absolutely worth the price and are of pretty good quality. The best example I can give is; going full uniqlo will make you look like a background character in any anime.

>H&M
A good alternative for those who dont have a Uniqlo in their area or just cant be bothered to order online. Some of their stuff is shit but at the same time, its hit or miss with just about any single piece you buy. I bought 5 white tees from there when I didnt have a Uniqlo near me and out of the 5, one of them just absolutely came apart in the wash. The other 4 still hold up. They follow fashion trends pretty closely but you'll still want to shop elsewhere for the more important pieces (Hoodies, Shoes, Jeans)

With all their controversy and failing business, you can get some steals on their clothes if you keep an eye on sales and install Honey. Their higher end line is a money trap for the most part but again, some things are pretty decent.

>Zara
Absolute money trap. They are overpriced and prey on faggots who follow those dumb male fashion Instagram pages (pic related). They imitate trends 100% and have no shame in doing so. If you want something cheap, go to H&M or Uniqlo. If you want something high-end or just a nice garment, save up your money and buy designer.

>>13286351
>>13286357
>>13286424
Thanks anons.

>>13286424
>going full uniqlo will make you look like a background character in any anime.
I'm okay with this. I mean, I wouldn't go full UNIQLO but if I had no clothes at all I could use their stuff to structure a wardrobe.
But then again I'm pretty normie.

>>13286424
Are basics at Zara acceptable? There is no uniqlo or hm here

>>13286792
Speaking from experience, absolutely not. The quality is too shit. Nothing I've bought from there has lasted more than a couple of washes.

H&M too. The only thing I would recommend either of those stores for is if you need one or two items to complete a trendy look. For basics, stay away.

>>13286838
not him, but what the fuck are basics? what does that even mean?

>>13286284
materials are far better at uniqlo and they even have a bunch of proprietary tech fabrics, you clueless dumwit

>>13286288
Uniqlo = safe designs, cheap, alright quality
H&M = variable (alright to mediocre) taste, cheap, variable (alright to mediocre) quality
Zara = shit, shit, shit

>>13286857
lurk more and read the fucking sticky before starting to post for fucks sake

>>13286875
shut the fuck up and answer my question pussy ass

uniqlo is so boring

>>13286891
You're boring.

>>13286424
>The best example I can give is; going full uniqlo will make you look like a background character in any anime.
not who you're replying to but that's what I'm going for: generic-core

does anybody else do this?

just tried some stuff on there and the quality was absolute garbage

>>13286891
Let me give you a fashion redpill.
Boring clothes are what the most fashionable people wear. Why? Because plain clothes accentuates people who are good looking.
Ugly people wear that retarded looking shit you see on /fa/ to hide their ugliness.

>>13287085
Huge if true.

>>13286792
Nah dude, I'd just order online from Uniqlo if you can. Zara is shit and is the purest form of pseudo-fashion

>>13286857
Basic fucking clothes. Blank shirts and sweaters. Typical blue jeans. The type of shit that the Uniqlo models wear.

I like buying Uniqlo shirts for work, they last a decent enough amount of time for how much they cost. Since they started doing online tailoring I made an order for pants to see how those turn out.

The only things I haven’t liked are their socks, which look like crap after a couple washes. Usually as long as you read the reviews it’s easy to see the products that should be avoided.

I like their tees tbhfam

>>13287301
forgot pic smhfam

>>13286786
w2c jeans?

>>13285990
Uniqlo has the highest quality basics for the best prices in the industry, and that's a fact

$600 jacket
$400 shoes
uniqlo everything else

:)

>>13287955
mah nigga

what shoes btw

>>13287956
foot the coacher and spalwart with $30 pants lmao

>>13287955
This is the way to do it. Expensive shoes and jackets last for fucking ever (if you're smart) and look so much better than low-to-mid-priced ones, it's a huge, huge step up over cheap shit. I'm not saying expensive shirts and pants aren't worth it but what you get for your money is a lot subtler.

>>13286883
btfo you whiney sandnigger

all the cool kids in japan wear uniqlo

>>13288101
That's fake news!

>great quality for price
>unbranded
>don't have to leave house

It's the only choice unless you're going to pay a shitton of money for clothes not made in china, the phillipines or the middle east.

Not an exprest on the topic, just from my understanding of things.

H&M and Zara are bad. H&M is okay if you are 14-17 yrs old i guess. Zara is super random, but mostly bad.

Also, i think in our mind subconsciously what is "basic bitch" is shifted. At first you imagine something boring, no style, just plain cloth.

But if you really think about it - who is more basic bitch, kid who wears H&M, like 9 out of 10 kinds do, or person who dress well and sharp in Uniqlo stuff?

And i disagree that they stuff is boring. Right now, when there is U coolection avaliable, you can look pretty stylish. The U shit is lit.

I never had any expensive designer pieces, but i think i got a gist of it, when i got some U stuff. I actually can see the thoughts behind the collection, why this is came up. Materials are nice. Pieces are nice. Trends behind them are nice. Some one literally thought out all the stuff behind this cloth. They all work well with each other. I red online pople discussing Lemaire influence on this colelction. This is probably was the first time when i actually interested in the designer behind cloth. This is kinda interesting feeling when you get a sense of it (or so do i think).

And if you compare typicall H&M to U, the H&M is 100x basic bitch here.

SS 2018 U collection have a vertical stripes design shirt. It's alright. I saw similar one in H&M on sale, also verical stripes, but different garment. And after seeing U shirt, i would only use H&M one to wipe my ass. It felt like cheap knock off. "Cheap" fabric, "cheap" texture, "cheap" feel. I never was so picky in just pure fabric/fell of the item, but i got this feeling strongly when seeing those 2.

I'm pretty sure that with basic ankle lenght pants, basic tucked tshirt, and any longcoat from SS 2018 U collection you gona desimate ANYTHING that can come out of Zara and H&M.

fashion pleb here wanting to order from uniqlo for the first time, how are the pants?
i really dont know where to buy pants anymore

Are any of the shirts from the new collection /fa/? I really like a couple of them.

>>13289119
meh, the only one i like is the olive one

>>13285990
i shop at Uniqlo almost as exclusively as well but it mostly stems from my budget being rather low. That said, i think Uniqlo is solid for getting basic items, although I have gotten some cool pieces. That being said, if I was given a million dollars to spend on clothes a year, i dont think I would be hitting up Uniqlo as often as I do but I am not upset that I go to Uniqlo often.

I havent had good experiences with H&M or other "fashionable" budget shops so I am weary of buying cheap items outside of Uniqlo. Does anybody know of any stores like Uniqlo as in they are good for people with a relatively low budget?

>>13287236
No online presence, and courier services are EXPENSIVE.

>>13289264
>No online presence
?

>>13289272
Doesn't ship dirextly to my shithole

I do not understand what a man would shop in Uniqlo, H&M or Zara. It is all shit. Basic clothes? Better buy RL Polo or shirt instead of garbage-tier plain tees with """"ironic"""" prints. Pants? Buy fucking Levi's jeans. What else? Idk about their socks though, but from what i heard, GAP's are way better than U.

Uniqlo is not /fa/shion. It is "I have nothing to wear and only 20 bucks left".

>>13286883
GTFO early summerfaggot.

>>13289258
Weekday, Cos, Arket, Asket, and Carhartt wip are all around the same price or a bit more than Uniqlo. None of these beat Uniqlo in value, but they're okay if you're looking for a trendier style.

Don't dress up much so I don't see the need to invest in something high quality, should I buy a blazer form Uniqlo?

>>13286875
>materials are far better at uniqlo and they even have a bunch of proprietary tech fabrics, you clueless dumwit

you mean like heattech (read: polyester)? or blocktech (ie: polyester)? its just good marketing. just add "tech" at the end of a word and people will think your material is some super-sophisticated patented fabric.

they offer merino wool and supima cotton, but this isnt very unusual compared to most fast fashion and mall brands. they will usually offer a few knits in 100% wool. supima cotton? land's end, eddie bauer, j crew, you name it nearly any brand at your local mall will have that too.

why do people get so defensive about uniqlo? is it because they are attached to it like it is a secret club or special? posters like >>13287622 seem to think so. ive gone through racks of suits, sweaters, jeans, and so on at uniqlo and i really didnt find it exceptional compared to other fast fashion. im even willing to bet cash that Uniqlo and H&M contract with similar, if not the same manufacturers.

the only thing i like about uniqlo compared to other fast fashion is their capsule collections. lemaire, undercover, tim hamilton, uniqlo has demonstrated far better taste in design and editing than other brands which chase seasonal trends. they have their pop collections every once in awhile (didnt they do a DBZ?) but its usually just graphic tees.

>>13289466
i knew about Cos but never tried them out. but cool, i'll check these out, thanks anon!

>>13289522
Not the person you answered to, but are you sure you went throught racks of Uniqlo cloth?

You did't said exactly that Uniqlo and H&M cloth are the same, you used word manufacturer (maybe). But H&M garments is GARBAGE compared to Uniqlos. Do you know that "Dry" line Uniqlo have? Like material is really.. ehhh. Dry. I don't know how to explain it. It have something to do with fabric, but i'm not knowledgeable enought in the topic to understand why it feel this way.

ALL of the H&M men's clothes apart from obvious nylon pieces have same "Dry" feel to them. I assume this is a cheaper fabric, and this is why they use it so much.

I actually really want to know how this whole material thing works.

Overall Uniqlo have nice selection of fabrics, while H&M are same shit. And it feels cheap too.

I agree with you about special collections. Much better taste.They specials have feel of "high" fashion to them. While everyones else is trench tier fashion.

Pop collections are tees. They have term "UT" for them.

>>13289626
yep, im sure. its hard to be in the wrong place when "WELCOME TO UNIQLO" followed by some kind of FAQ is blaring every 15 minutes over intercom.

i find uniqlo often barely distinguishable in terms of durability and fabric choice compared to other fast fashion. people are claiming a difference of night and day, uniqlo a 10 while other fast fashion a 5 or 2. i would be less into this issue if people rated uniqlo 6 and other fast fashion 5, but theres a hivemind that seems to believe uniqlo is god's gift.

here's what i was able to find as manufacturers or processors contracting with both Uniqlo and H&M. where they didnt share the same supplier, often the address at many facilities was literally down the street from another garment shop, if not in the same district of the same province. there are also ambiguous spelling differences in chinese that make it likely there are more suppliers than named here that contract with both companies:

Bengladesh:
Ever Smart Bangladesh LTD
Pacific Jeans Limited
Stylecraft LTD

China:
Huizhou Nanxuan Kitting Factory LTD
Jiangsu Yeqin Apparel Co
Martin Emprex Textiles LTD
Nantong Sanming Fashion Co.
Chenfeng (Jiangsu) Apparel Co


Indonesia:
Matsuoka Winner Industry/Sumber Bintang Rejeki
Jiale Indonesia Garment/Ing International/Khahatex
Pan Brothers TBK
Berkah Indo Garment

Vietnam:
Crystal Martin (Crystal Intimate, Crystal Sweater) LTD
First Team Garment LTD
Panko Tam Thang Corporation

sources
http://sustainability.hm.com/en/sustainability/downloads-resources/resources/supplier-list.html
www.fastretailing.com/jp/sustainability/supply_chain/pdf/UniqloCorePartnerFactoryList_20170330.pdf

>>13289654

I actually think the difference is close to 8 - 3/4 Uniqlo - other FF. But i was not part of any fashion forum, discussion, etc. before like 2 weeks ago, when i started casually visiting this place.

I came to this conclusion on my own. Not saying this should proove anything, but i got this from my own head.

They very well may use same shops to make clothes. We can't be sure they use same material tho.

>>13289680
>they very well may use same shops

it's not a question. what i just posted was a list of the the shops that make stuff for both H&M and Uniqlo. including textiles and knitting. they probably contract with other fast fashion brands as well.

>>13286026
>>13286073
Their Kando pants are pretty good.

>>13289522
>you mean like heattech (read: polyester)? or blocktech (ie: polyester)? its just good marketing. just add "tech" at the end of a word and people will think your material is some super-sophisticated patented fabric.
First of all you have never worn those fabrics, otherwise you would not say this kind of bullshit

Secondly, and most importantly, what the fuck do you think most tech fabrics are made of ? Fucking cotton ?

>they offer merino wool and supima cotton, but this isnt very unusual compared to most fast fashion and mall brands
As a matter of fact, yes it is unusual for their price range to offer those fabrics as a standard, and you would know it if you had any idea what kind of tier Uniqlo fits into. Just so you can realise how ridiculous your comparison was, a J crew cotton sweater costs roughly twice as much as a 100% merino wool Uniqlo sweater.

>>13289522
>im even willing to bet cash that Uniqlo and H&M contract with similar, if not the same manufacturers
Ladurée and Mc Donald's macaroons are made in the same factories, I guess they're the same quality then

>>13287085
let me redpill you

even being good-looking myself, uniqlo is still boring af and always will be

only good-looking people can wear anything and make it look good. thats why i like to wear nonbasic shit, because i can make it work, unlike an ugly cunt

>>13289455
Post a fit

yeah Uniqlo is the only place I go to desu since I live in Tokyo

I'm almost 25 so all I want is good, simple clothes.

>>13291044
are u a japanese woman? owo

>>13291044
is uniqlo in tokyo cheaper than some asian countries? visitng there soon and idk if i should buy shirts here now or wait it out when i get to tokyo

>>13289113
I dig their skinny stretch jeans a lot. Also buy my khakis from them.

Unfortunately where I live (former soviet backwater) it's impossible to order from them but I plan to stock up during the few weeks I'll be in Europe this summer.

Well for me, when it comes to good outerwear, shoes, pants, I don't shop at Uniqlo lol. Although their peacoat is actually alright, got it at the end of the sale cheap and it's still lasted.

I do go for basics and layers, like tees, sweatshirts, button shirts etc. I think they offer them at a reasonable price and the quality is alright. If you want to save more money, every week different items go on special offer where they take up to $10 or $20 which is pretty sweet.

>whole thread trashing zara when i've been planning to cop pic related
shit, can anyone suggest an alternative to pic related then?

>Went to the local uniqlo first time last week
>counter full of people returning items
but i'd say that their clothes are much more fashionable and less normie then H&M's and Zara's god awful selection

>>13292018
Fuck, I wish I had a Uniqlo in my area. How's online shopping?

>>13292026
no idea

>>13286786
w2c backpack?

>>13292026
If you live in the US it’s $5 and they do random free shipping promotions. And if you live near their warehouse areas the shipping only takes two days when they’re not slammed with online orders.

>>13292026
Most shirts are about a half size to a size larger than gap/banana/navy, and don't trust all their claims about viscose/rayon being superior to other natural fabrics (it's worse), but otherwise that are breddy good.

Uniqlo is pure arse. You waste your time and money trying to turn boring crap into something reasonable and stylish but never get anywhere and you always end up getting rid of them eventually because they're boring and not really worth keeping once you get something new. All those small purchases add up too. I've spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds at Uniqlo over the past five years or so and occasionally wear one grey flannel shirt. That's it. Everything else is gone.

>>13292196
Maybe your situation is not uniqlos fault, anon-kun?

I'm exactly opposite. And i'm alright.

>>13292005
Go and check it out. Zara is not all trash. Just mostly bad fitted trash and low quality. Maybe this item will be okay.

>>13292005
What are the materials? Zara is capable of good and bad, they just shouldn't form the bulk of your wardrobe.

>>13292196
>Spent hundreds and hundreds
>Wears one item

You're a fucking idiot then man, it's not uniqlos fault at all.

In my experience Uniqlo is better suited for men (Asian men specifically), I didn't have the best experience as a girl when finding clothes. I'm 5'8 and I couldn't find a lot of things that were supposedly good quality and design but that is still considered to be affordable.

>>13293422
>men (Asian men specifically)
Why?

>>13289711
Do the ones they advertise as “extra lightweight” or whatever feel cheap/flimsy? I’m curious of how thin they are.

anyone have experience with their slim fit chinos? all the chinos I’ve tried that are in a similar price range just have a distinctly cheap feel to them. are uniqlo’s decent?
also, anyone have any experience with the EZY jeans? they look comfy desu

this board is completely delusional with zara. when was the last time you saw a giant billboard for them? when was the last time you saw a commercial for them? celebrity endorsement? how are they still so successful despite their almost non-existent marketing?
you don't need to like them obviously, but to suck uniqlo's dick while trying to throw them under the bus is laughable.

>>13293643
because they originally started in Japan? Lol

Although I thought their sizes changed to compensate for bigger americans?

Gonna pop into UNIQLO in London and I need some chinos. Does anyone have their chinos? Are they decent quality?

I'm a neet so I can only afford fast fashion. out of all the different shops I've tried uniqlo is the best

>>13289455
your opinions are shit

>>13287304
Yang paling bawah kedua paling kanan tu...minimalis, saya suka - pakai dengan jaket warna gelap mesti nampak handal sikit.

Yang kedua kiri kedua bawah dengan yang paling kiri paling atas itupun nampak cantik jugak kalau pakai kasual.

>>13289119
>>13289121
The blue one doesn't look so bad either...but then again, cool colours like blues to greens to blacks are my personal preferences for clothes in general.

>>13292467
>>13293349
Didn't say it was their fault at all. That doesn't change what I said. Anyone who seriously wears Uniqlo and still thinks they're effay or has any style whatsoever is a mong though. You can look acceptable and inoffensive but nothing more. It's best to get out of the habit of thinking you can turn something cheap and lame into something good just by wearing it a certain way or matching it with something good.

>>13287955
this guy gets it

>>13292669
>89% viscose 11%polyamide
i've been taught not to buy any poly-material, but 11% isn't bad, is it?

>>13294258
why are you a neet

The EZY jeans are my favourite trousers, but it makes me wish their chinos had a similar fit. Slim fit still leaves a bit more around the ankle than I'd like.

>>13294746
why shouldn't you?

>>13289455
If you're 25 and above shopping at zara or h&m is just cringey. They're clearly marketed for young people. Both companies are clearly very fashion conscious and try to keep up with the current trend, like dad shoes or oversized hoodies with prints a few seasons ago.
OTOH, uniqlo is just a clothing company that makes clothes for everyone. My mom buys her pants there, she also buys clothes for my niece there. So yeah uniqlo is the definition of basic, but it's not bad. At least the company doesn't blatantly copy designer pieces like zara and h&m.

>>13295070
are the EZYs pretty durable feeling, like denim, or do they just feel like shit sweatpants?

>>13295120
It does feel more comfortable than jeans, but I'd still call it durable. The main appeal to me is the fit (slim fit but less ankle baggage), the feel and the flexibility

anyone tried their relaxed ankle-length pants? thinking of copping.

>>13295231
seconding this

>>13295231
They look great in some fitpics I have seen

>>13289654
You're right about the manufacturers, but especially in China they are flexible enough to produce at different quality levels, depending on what the client wants and how much they pay. It is entirely possible that Uniqlo orders better quality and pays more. From my experience there is a palpale difference between different Uniqlo variants, i.e. the Dry tees that were mentioned.
Overrated? No doubt, people on the internet exagerrate everything.