/fa/ - Fashion

>>12303776
Being a leader isn't about what you wear. You got the autism part spot on.

A LEADER IS DEFINED BY HIS/HER PERSONALITY, NOT BY HIS/HER CLOTHES.

NO CLOTHES WILL MAKE SOMEONE SEEM LIKE A LEADER, IF THAT PERSON LACKS A LEADER PERSONALITY; CONVERSELY, A LEADER WILL ALWAYS BE PERCEIVED AS SUCH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE/SHE IS WEARING.

>>12303776
Ignore the autistic mudslime that keeps posting in all caps.

> dress like pic related

>>12303776
He looks like a faggot

If you want to dress like a "leader" and have people take you seriously, just go with something no-nonsense like a blazer

>>12303783

First post best post.

Here's an example from the other side of the spectrum i guess. idk why but this screams "cuck"

>>12303783
>>12303784
yeah i know, desu i'm really more curious about how people follow others based on their fashion statements and social signaling. this board is 10x more autistic than me so i expect to get some very in-depth replies

>>12303795
most of my guys dress like that, actually

>>12303801
>... people follow others based on their fashion statements and social signaling.
>yeah i know...

NO, YOU DO NOT KNOW.

dumping more leader inspo i guess

also can someone tell me if that's just an index card in patrik's shirt pocket?

>>12303804
sure does for me and most everyone I know

what's your story btw? i don't think i've ever seen you make a post that wasn't anti-fashion in general, unless i have you mixed up with another all caps trip

I guess I'll actually give you a reply that may be somewhat useful.

You have to dress as what the potential employees aspire to be.

Do they want to be someone who has "fuck you" money and is able to walk in to a business meeting dressed in cargo shorts and a t-shirt a-la Social Network's Justin Timberlake?

Do they see themselves as an almost DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall Street wheeler dealer? Designer/Bespoke suits and whatnot?

If you want to exert an air of authority in the workplace, the best way to do that is to dress like the person that your employees want to be.

>>12303804
jesus christ please post your degree in psychology or stop giving people advice based on your middle age like beliefs

maybe it's just his height and expression, but techno guy looks like he knows exactly what he's doing, all the time

>>12303822
that's actually really insightful.
I was worried people would confuse authority with just being alpha, that highlights the difference pretty well.

>>12303849
No problem.

Thankfully, I run my business with friends, so don't need to worry about authority, I own a larger share, but we are all owners and take an hourly wage.

I turn up to work in whatever I want, as do they. When we run the bar we tend to dress pretty /fa/ doe.

i imagine there's a keynesian beauty contest component to it as well - if you think other people respect this guy, then you're inclined to respect him as well. Your idea of a leader is in part informed by your idea of other peoples' ideas of a leader.

pic related is mall-tier but it's my idea of somebody else's idea of "successful"

>>12303776
Dress for your crowd bozo.

If you need the business types wear button down shirts and chinos.

If you need the nerds be more casual. Go Oxfords and jeans. But I think the most important part would be choosing the right color.

Do not go for the bright colors like in pic
>>12303795


Go for more neutral ones. Maybe throw some power red and see if they respond. I have always seen the one who dressed the most neutral in a crowd of graphic tees and plaid shirts as the leader.

Pic related, the leader of one of the hottest start ups now.

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>>12303776
Start by not dressing like your pic.

Before anything, you need to be attractive since people are more likely to like and listen to people they find attractive. Exercise and keep in shape. Pay attention to grooming. General appearance should be clean and understated--think classic and professional kinds of style rather than "fashion"; this communicates conscientiousness, sturdiness, and a focus on business rather than on oneself. Dressing too flashy can make it seem like you're overcompensating or egocentric, not good "leader" qualities.

For clothes, I suggest you wear tailored jackets/sports coats, quality button-ups, nice sweaters, fitted pants/jeans, and maybe some loafers or oxfords. Hell, you could even just wear a suit, but that's probably overkill. To be safe, go with "business casual." Take professional, sartorial type shit and maybe dress it down a little, or conversely, take clean, sharp everyday clothes and dress it up. It sounds kind of boring and lame in a "GQ-ish" quality, but this is the safe option and it works. Not too loud/flashy, but not sloppy or too boring either. Make it subtle, confident, professional. Take basic, neutral palettes and add a pop here and there.

The rest is personality factors. This is really the most important part. Without this, no amount of nice clothes can make you a real leader. Leaders are extroverted. Be assertive and confident in your speech. Take initiative; make the crucial decisions and delegate work (preferably democratically, but you should be the one to propose this shit). Work on your posture. Look people in the eyes when you talk to them. Don't be dominant or aggressive; good leaders appear strong, but gentle/caring enough so that people want to follow them. Make it about teamwork and the group, but position yourself at the center: think of yourself as the glue that holds everything together.

That's all I can think of. Where /fa/ is concerned, just dress conservatively and professionally.

>>12303877
If you are recruiting autists Carmackcore will do for you

>>12303882

>>12303878
>>12303871
Also the thing about dressing flashy is that you look like a rebel and an outsider. It isn't a good look for a leader. A leader is someone who is ontop and ahead of the masses. So you should look like you are ahead and more mature than your crowd. That means dressing less experimental since you should look like you figured yourself out already. Lets face it a lot of young kids are lost and do not know what they will do in 5 years.

Bigger than knowing how to dress is building a reputation for your self. Be active in class so it looks like you know something. Half the time I dress quite poorly and my fit is a complete mess. But people come to me for leadership in group projects because they think I know what I am doing. Most of the time I do and I get things done but I also tend to take a back seat and want less to do with the project. Reputation matters.

Autists have a limited chance of being leaders and the clothes you wear will have no impact wether people will think u can lead shit

>>12303784
O RLY?

>>12303935

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>>12303950
>A LEADER IS DEFINED BY HIS/HER PERSONALITY, NOT BY HIS/HER CLOTHES.

NO. YOU WOULD HAVE TO IGNORE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF MILITARY CLOTHING.

>>12304013

I REITERATE: ?

YOUR REPLIES ARE NONSENSICAL/NONSEQUITURIAL; YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY "POINT".

GET A SUIT WITH REALLY REALLY LARGE SHOULDER PADS

AND TO MAKE YOUR PRESENCE FELT IN THE WORKPLACE, WEAR PLATFORM BOOTS AND THE BIGGEST HAT YOU CAN FIND, THAT'LL MAKE YOU SEEM TALLER

AND THEN TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE HOT SHIT, WEAR A CAPE

A LONG CAPE, THAT GOES DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND

THAT AY YOU WILL LOOK LIKE SUPREME GLORIOUS LEADER OF WORKPLACE REVOLUTION


NO NEED TO THANK ME

Looking like a leader is mostly genetic. Srs.

>>12304034
LMAO, BRO, ARE YOU FUCKTARDED OR SOMETHING???

YOU SAY YOU CANNOT DRESS AS A LEADER.

TELL A CENTURION THAT, OR A MAJOR, OR EVEN A MAYOR.

CANT DRESS AS A LEADER. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

DONT COME BACK WITH SOME BULLSHIT 'YOU ARE BEING TOO LITERAL' WHAT THE FUCK ELSE IS A LEADER MY BOY?

ALSO, LRN 2 ENGLISH YOU RETARD. THE FUCK IS NONSEQUITURIAL? SURELY THERE IS A HYPHEN IN THAT WORD, IF IT EVEN EXISTS AT ALL.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THIS GUY

>>12304089
You're a fucking idiot.

>>12304101
ELABORATE CUNT

>>12303784
Kill urslef

>>12304101
U are, fuck u for standing up for the all caps fuckwad

>>12303776
If you have a start up and you have high expectations on the way people dress then you are an idiot. If you are a professional with a degree and an established business and you are big enough to have a dress standard then go right ahead but if you are doing a software startup thing then you definitely got your priorities fucked. Most programmers or other types of introverted freelancer/work at home types are shut ins who dont give a shit about how they dress. Even if it isnt that sort of start up, you should focus on your actual qualities and develop your people skills, become a better organizer, manager and communicator and look for other people who have real qualities that will help your business. Worry about image later.

>>12303776
just dress like raf.

ezpz

>>12303877
Take this example. Wear a watch. A good watch can exude power.

Men respect other men with large chins, it's a sign of masculinity and dominance. Men have less/no repsect for other men with weak chins.

It's animal-like behavior that makes me cringe to describe

>>12303776
Dressing nice won't do anything to help with that. It's not like your an autist trying to get a girlfriend where looks actually matter.
Being a leader is 100% attitude

>>12304034
>>12303950
Die faggot

>>12304588
If you are smooth enough with girls look really don't matter as much as you think either. It's not what you've got but how you present it that matters.

step 1: be tall
step 2: be broad shouldered
step 3: wear any semiformal/formal clothing that is tailored and of decent-high quality
step 4: have properly currated accessories (watch, belt) to show you have your stuff together
step 5: practice proper speaking and body language/posture

there you go, you can probably get away with not being tall if you are built and have good posture

you can also skip a lot of these steps if you are naturally charismatic

>>12303776
What's the startup?

>>12303784
stop

>>12305903
sweet beautiful randal

>>12303935
KEK

>>12305903
step 1 and step 2 are not clothes bruh, how the fuck you gonna dress 'be tall'

I dont even know what this threads about, you talking how to dress alpha?
Having to ask means you will always be betafag till death

>>12303776
You need a steve jobs to your steve wozniak. If you're really bad at reading social cues, get a third party to find him or her for you.

A successful startup needs a person genius and a science genius

>>12303868
>keynesian
wtf you talking about? In what way is that keynesian?