/fa/ - Fashion

gummo was pretty effay

>>11398333
fuck, I came to thus thread to
>inb4 nihilism
god damn
fuck
what a poo tier ideology.

>>11398333
what was the point of this movie? i have heard a few different interpretations and I haven't sat down to watch it yet.

>>11398540
nihilism is so fucking gay and tumblr tier
how to spot a pseud: starts spouting bullshit about nietzsche and nihilism

>>11398570
at the time it was pretty groundbreaking, but it felt kinda forgettable to me when i watched it a couple weeks ago

Trainspotting is a horrible movie
>>11398592
You definitely know nothing about philosophy

>>11398329
Anything by Rohmer.

I don't know what /fa/ books are like but my guess would be Henry Miller or e.e. cummings

Apocalypse now

>>11398756

>>11398756
not him, but why
>nihilism is so fucking gay and tumblr tier
how to spot a pseud: starts spouting bullshit about nietzsche and nihilism
implies
>You definitely know nothing about philosophy
?

Here's a few
Rebels of the Neon God
In The Mood for Love
Chunking Express
Trainspotting
The Shinjuku Incident
Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai
Rumble in the Bronx

>>11399053
And one more,
Definitely, definitely definitely check out Leon: the Professional

into the wild

>movies
Ikiru
Drive
Persona
Akira
Blue Valentine
>books
The Stranger
Kafka on the Shore
Inherent Vice
Crime and Punishment
Lolita

>>11398592
For real. The fact that he despises nihilism in all its forms is literally the first thing Nietzsche talks about.

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (film and book)
Last Exit to Brooklyn (book)
Drive (film)
The Lost Boys (film)
Lost In Translation (film)
Stoner (book)
Big Lebowski (film)
A Girl Walks Home alone at Night (film)
La Haine (film)

>>11399179
interesting choice of Murakami, I would have said either the 1Q84s or Colourless Tsukuru Tazaki

also, judge me

>>11399259
>interesting choice of Murakami, I would have said either the 1Q84s or Colourless Tsukuru Tazaki

two of his weakest works desu senpai

Kafka is decently effay. NW and Sputnik Sweetheart would appeal to this board the most I think. Dance Dance Dance is objectively his best though.

>>11399293
>>11399259
1Q84 was overly long and kinda tryhard, and Tsukuru just bored me, Kafka is my fav with Hard Boiled Wonderland and DDD coming next.

For more JP effay literature check out Mishima's Spring Snow and it's sequels, beautiful stuff

>>11399299
>For more JP effay literature check out Mishima's Spring Snow and it's sequels, beautiful stuff

Let's not forget about Ryu Murakami for all the 17yo edgelords on this board.

srs though his books are alright

>some entry level
Enter The Void
Rebels of the Neon God
Leon The Professional
Trainspotting
La Haine
Taxi Driver
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
In The Mood for Love
The Machinist
Christiane F.
>god tier
Jacob's Ladder
Un Homme Qui Dort
The Mirror |by Tarkovsky
Nostalghia
Stalker
Persona
Leigh's Naked
La Pianiste
Julien Donkey-Boy

>>11399299
>>11399293
I agree that they're no his best works, b I thought we were talking /fa/ books, and 1Q84 is almost constant clothes referencing, and colourless tsukuro is pretty similar, my favourite would definitely be Wind up bird chronicles though.


Also, in Hard boiled wonderland, did anyone else enjoy the modern narrative half but find the other surreal part, although essential, less gripping?

Antiviral (2012)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJTd69dMyQ

Skyfall
Spectre

>>11399475
You seem like a cunt sorry pal

Possession (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ht7wL_F98

Gregg Araki's Teen Apocalypse trilogy.
Especially Nowhere.

>>11399957

Persona (1966)

>>11399970

>>11398329
Anything that seems right to you at the time and is going to broaden your outlook on life.

If anything don't pigeonhole yourself or purposely avoid anything

3 Women (1977)

>>11399999
digits confirm society is the culprit

The first part, at least.

Stalker, Ivan's Childhood (Tarkovsky in general)
Full Metal Jacket
American History X
Studio Ghibli
not really /fa/ but I watched Dersu Uzala the other week and that was really good

>>11398329
Camus
>Camus
Camus
>Camus

>>11399999
>>11400007
damn

>>11398802
my boi pie

Blood meridian, McCarthy's best book

clerks desu

>>11399913
tasteless scum

TRAINSPOTTING

>>11399475
"look mom ive been on /tv/, now i know better"-core

Seriously, Tarkovsky and Bergman are great, but praising them as "god-tier" shows how extremely new you are.

Build your own taste.

>>11401616
this

rivette, rohmer, pasolini; marker & farocki; are the effay pantheon anyway. costra, sang-soo, grandrieux for contemporary.

but the whole thread is hs tier trash taste. I mean look at this massive fucking joke >>11399259
you can't make this shit up

i hate you faggots

>>11398329

>>11401643
>>11401616
>>11399913
>>11401584

>>11401660
the goat
cant believe it got cancelled, channel 4 has gone down the shitter ever since they started cancelling all their good shows

pale faggot = fa? if so, the recommended movies are "good"
how about some classic gentleman man up you faggots

>>11401660
Fiona O'Shaughnessy makes my willy feel funny

>>11398329
there are no /fa/ movies and books
/thread

>>11398329
season 1 of true detective was effay as fuck, my dudes

>>11402406

really liked the nostromo jackets desu

What makes a movie /fa/? Is it the costumes or the general feel of it?

>>11404371
There are different answers in this thread.
Look at this wanker >>11401643
He thinks experimental movies are effay. God knows why. Prolly he thinks fashion is an something that only a few should know.
This guy >>11400918 doesn't know where is Earth.
This guy thinks is a good photography, I guess >>11399475

bump, so everyone can check this pretentious fuckers.

>>11398329
I can offer
West Anderson films & Hayao Miyazaki films

La Haine
Reprise
Fear And Loathing
Taxi Driver
Scarface
Kids
A Clockwork Orange
Drive
Pulp Fiction
Leon The Professional
Akira
The Life of Others

>>11398329

A CLOCKWORK ORANGE

>>11399976
this guy

>>11406441
nothing wrong with films having interesting wardrobe design

>>11405012
>He thinks experimental movies are effay
Except out of ~10 listed, only 2 were experimental: harun farocki and chris marker.

They're definitely fashionable to like today. Another example would be Akerman after her death this year rekindled interest. Liking them signals intelligent taste, avoidance of shallow trendiness but connection to an overall zietgeist. To any decently mature artistic community at least, i.e. it won't work at college film club, but would at any hip gallery opening.

They're not my personal taste. With experimental/non-narrative, I like Walter de Maria or Matta-Clark's films, or maybe Tscherkassky. But they're not fashionable, except when worn as a personal brand

>>11401616
What if he genuinely likes them and this is his taste? Would rather criticise this entry level vs. god tier bs. It basicly screams elitist teenager.

>>11398329
Japanese new wave film.

Roberto Bolano.

breathless by jean-luc godard

>>11399945
great movie

>>11408441
Transparent critic-baiting trash. Kys tryhard

>>11407755
your breath must smell like your underwear.

Un Homme Qui Dort
SUCH A GREAT MOVIE

being John Malkovich

>>11398551
Is this a good movie to watch or is it just A E S T H E T I C A L L Y
P L E A S I N G

>>11409460
the aesthetics are what make it good, its one of those movies people would call style over substance, but kinda like OGF, style IS the substance

p meh film but god damn is it beautiful

>>11399475
>Julien Donkey-Boy
good movie

>>11409953
this movie is amazing

>>11409931
what is this from

>>11410513
ghost in the shell, the first (OG) movie

don't watch it though. the major is my waifu and you can't have her.

i feel like this film sums up a lot of people who browse 4chan, sadly that includes me
its one of the only films worthy of a 10 imo

>>11398592
who does this?

>>11398570

its shit

think pink flamingo without the campness

haruki murakami is a godlike writer, every single one of his books is a masterpiece

>>11410849
>murakami
>godlike
jesus get some fucking decent taste dude
keep reading and i promise in a years time you'll look back on murakami and see how truly bland and shit he is

>>11410534
You can have your creepy mannequin all for yourself, manga Motoko is by far the fucking best anyway.

>>11410863
given that you have decent taste, recommend something better, so i can too ascend over shit writers such as him

>>11410982
he's not shit. i've read all his books and most of them are above average. he's not godlike though and he may only have a masterpiece or two, even those are debatable (they are dance and kafka btw)

as far as something better, hard to say. better but similar? that's hard to come by. better but completely different? then what's the point in comparison?

anyways, read Under the Volcano. If you can handle Murakami's meandering plotlines you can read Lowry's work and understand what the word masterpiece means.

Mishima is definitely more /fa/ than murakami

"buzz aldrin, what happened to you in all the confusion" and "battle royale" are both pretty cool and /fa/ books I guess

Being able to articulate why you enjoy something is more effay than superficially saying you prefer X over X

Anything shot on 65mm

>>11409953
fucking love that one

it is actually kind of accurate in how it depicts the future as well

>>11410982
i see how cunty my reply looked now, sorry about that
i'd say that it's too subjective enough for reccs
i find murakamis writing styles and stories too bland and repetitive
my favourite book is cosmopolis which many would say is also is not good, so idk
i read pic related and that had felt similar to murakamis romance novels

>>11411014
>>11410863
He's YA fiction for "alt" kids. Like any YA fiction, it's derivitave, shallow and selling the surface aesthetics of more rewarding movements.

Just read Japanese postwar lit. Ryu Murakami & Osamu Dazai (Specifically his No Longer Human) are accessible for h. murakami babbies. Yukio Mishima and Kenzaburo Oe are more important writers of the period.

Anyone that's read h. marukami and stopped flat there is either braindead or poser af, ryu murakami isn't really that tough a followup. Only excusable for 16 year olds and younger.

>>11409116
Thanks

>>11398333
is this that same movie? I looked up the description of a movie scene from my childhood memory.. and sure enough, this photo popped up on Google.

>>11410665
Yeah man

mr nobody

The Best Offer

>>11411329
yep, same movie

>>11411765
checked

>>11411790
If you've got a thing for hermit girls I can also recommend Good Dick.

Submarine is one of the best movies I have seen

>>11411813
You're a literal cliche.
You go stand in a corner and be ashamed of yourself, Anon. Why don't you listen to some Joy Division while you do it, you total sheep

>>11402411
Pre 2000 Rust was pretty /fa/, and a great hair too

>>11411821
Wait is it a popular movie? I never really heard anyone talking about it and stumbled on it by accident on TV. And New Order is pretty good don't really listen to Joy Division though

Conjuring 2, London effay asf

>>11411893
Yeah every indie-cunt has seen it.

>>11411821
>>11411893
Seconding that. Not knowing isn't in an excuse, the movie's just shamelessly pandering to the audience. The only reason you could fall for it is because you're a pretentious, narcissistic cunt who actually fell for the consumer targeting hook line sinker.

yall faggots got the taste of tryhard 15 year olds in movies, music and books. what the fuck is wrong with you lot?

>>11411973
Post your patrician tastes. If it's patrician I'll bow down for you, promise.

>>11399999
i dont give a shit about the movie but nice quints
faggot

>>11411987
between rei & asuka, i pick kaworu

between joy division & new order, i pick the homosexuals

between pynchon & dfw, i pick j. barth

between burroughs & g. p-orridge, i pick brion gysin

you can't beat me. i am king

>>11412043
just mentioning chinese cartoon movies you're disqualified

>>11412055
this a shit test? anime is hype with all the kool art/noise kids atm, pleb ass

I've read a bunch of shit lately and man am I over it. I feel like I just keep falling for the bait. How do I keep getting sucked into highschool tier bullshit.

Things I've recently read: a gross amount of murakami (wind, pinball, dance, windup bird, 1Q84, colorless, sheep, and probably more... i dont know why I didnt stop. The dude has interesting ideas but just kind of slathers them in the same fashion over and over), the steve jobs biography (it was a gift, actually kind of interesting to read about a genius adult who cant control his emotions and is really dense when it comes to health), capitalist realism (just a book about capitalism and how its a wheel that just turns itself into oblivion), breakfast of champions by vonnegut (not much to say here, probably not the vonnegut book to start with but it was a buck. I thought this was along the same lines of murakami), and last but not least 'consider the lobster' by DFW (man this was a bummer. I tried to like it, I did but DFW has 1 style and it just wears on you. I feel like he is writing more for himself than for an audience sometimes).

Things I own I don't really plan on reading: the gay science (yeah idk dudes, it was at a used book store. Is this worth reading, should I do it with notes such as stanfords phil encyclopedia), marie kondos book of magic - throw away stuff(I read 15 pages of this book and put it down. if you have to be sold on minimalism with magic bullshit intertwined in it, its probably not for you), selling crack in el barrio (a rec from a friend, again highschool tier and probably a 1 day read), and a girl with a dragon tattoo.

Where do I start!? Fiction is tight. Non-fiction is also cool if it is interesting. I keep getting sucked into these bullshit 'thinkers' that do all the thinking for you or lack any sort of coming together or conclusion (hey there murakami). Looking for pretty much anything. I'll admit I'm not ~above any of these, they just leave something to be desired in my eyes.

>>11398329
kite runner- books
we need to talk about kevin- movie

a bigger splash

it's such a beautiful day

check this out guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KskaVHvaXYc

>>11412206
see
>>11411298
for more japanese. try ryu murakami.

if you want more pomo, don delillo is solid. pynchon is light reading and 2bh not much of a writer at all but v strong, on target humor. john barth is an amazing writer with the sharpest sense of humor ever.

italo calvino is really refreshing. wg sebald is up there with barth, easily one of the very best contemporary authors, melancholy tone. thomas bernhard is fun too - bitter.

for non fic, avoid the pop shit you find in B&N. try manuel delanda if crit theory & cyber shit interests you.

>>11398333
>>11398540
>>11411821
>>11411824
>>11411893
>>11411937
>>11411938
>>11411973
>>11411987
>>11411996
>>11412043
>>11412055
>>11412091
>>11412122
>>11412206
>>11412239
>>11412257
>>11412260
>>11412277
>>11412306
>he thinks his opinion as a casual movie view has relevancy
Kys
Movies:
Seven Samurai
Ghost in the Shell
Akira
The Black Society Trilogy
Tokyo Drifter
Battle Royale
Pulp Fiction
The Departed
Apocalypse Now
No Country for Old Men
Bully
Kids
Natural Born Killers
and yes, I've seen everything
Books:
Lolita
The Twilight of the Idols
American Psycho
The E Myth Revisited
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Free to Choose
And yes, I've read everything desu

>>11412306
thanks a bunch, from this thread ive gotten a lot of things such as:

the stranger
of human bondage
inherent vice
crime and punishment
Stoner
spring snow

and all your recs!

>>11411813
>>11411821
>>11411893
>>11411973

Just because a film follows the style of the time it was created, doesn't make it automatically pandering. I can tell you know nothing about film, as you would have been able to recognize the French New-Wave influences in the film's aesthetics instead of chalking it up to "consumer-pandering". 'Submarine' is filmed as if it was filmed by its main character. The art-style seems suited to a hopeless-romantic 15-year-old, precisely because we're seeing the events of the film through the perspective of a hopeless-romantic 15-year-old.

I don't even know why I'm replying to you. You've probably not even seen the film, and you don't even care enough about it to articulate your opinion with any kind of justification. You're just using this as an oppurtunity to feel slightly better about yourself by shitting all over other people. It's threads likes this, and posters like you, who make me realize that I'm getting too old for 4chan and all this bullshit. The amount of hours I've wasted on this bullshit we call "discussion". We're both just arguing with a brick wall, neither of us will leave this thread with a different opinion.

Maybe one day I'll find someone worth talking to about film/fashion/literature/whatever. Until that time, though, all I have is you arseholes.

>>11412525
yea, throw out stranger.

of human bondage, crime & punishment and stoner are good books, but they're older literary classics (well stoner was 'rediscovered'), you might have trouble enjoying them without some familiarity with the period's context in terms of literature.

inherent vice is by pynchon, it's okay as far as he goes and nice to start with, but gravity's rainbow is much better and an easy start to. look up the settings to both and decide which aesthetic appeals to you more, since pynchon's mo is just basically a satirical, ultra poser barrage of all the consumer and media/art identifications that makes up a period and culture.

& I'd highly rec confessions of a mask over spring snow as a start to mishima. it's his first novel and autobiographical, covering the background to the themes that are present in his work and life. spring snow is the first party of his final trilogy of novels.

>>11412550
t. has never seen any "French New-Wave"

>>11412427
>and yes, I've seen everything
On r/movies top 100, obviously

>>11412558
Looking for some more recent stuff so I really appreciate the feedback, ill likely go with one of your recs for the next book i read

cheers stranger

>>11412576
I took a couple of film papers in college and was in the national scholarship english competition in high school. I'm currently NEET and all I do is get baked, workout, fap, watch anime, watch movies and shitpost

>>11412739
what have you seen by those listed here: >>11401643

>>11412737
no worries, not many people get into books and when they do, they're usually happy to stick with genre/pulp or meme shit, so I'm happy to help someone interested

>>11412768
Prefer Godard to all of this desu, but I've seen a few of those. Korean film is awful. There are a couple of good revenge films, but the rest are awful.

>>11412803
>hasn't seen any besides maybe a pasolini

KILL BILL IS EFFAY AF

>>11412808
>only watches hardcore europa filma
anon is probably a fat NEET gay Italian cunt

>>11412558
ive been reading up on these, inherent vice seems more my gig than gravity's rainbow. I'm from southern california and hate it so i think it should match well

thanks again for all your recs.

>>11412427
that's the most imdb thing i've ever seen

>>11399862
I preferred the surreal parts all around. I didn't care to read about some gook cooking ramen all day, but the fuckin goblins and shit in the sewer were cool, and all the wacky shit in the other world was fun too. Murakami just needs to write a straight-up surreal novel instead of dicking around with his samey realist stuff

the suit cary grant wears in north by northwest was pretty important

>>11411286
why?

>>11398329
>film
tarkovsky / bergman / david lynch / werner herzog / french new wave

>books
Nietzsche / william s. boroughs / franz kafka / rimbaud / sartre / anything that is depressing and russian /

>im adding music
tim hecker / my bloody valentine / steve reich / iceage / oneohtrix point never / aphex twin / Bauhaus

>and art
gerhard richter / hiroshi sugimoto / michel duchamp / francisco goya / jean-michel bisquiat

>>11412206
idk it sounds like you have tried post-modernism but didnt like it so much. Try 'the crying of lot 49' by pynchon. if you dont like that, stick to the modernist classics.

i recommend the gay science but read some basics first camus / sarte and difinetly some plato.

read 'good old neon' by DFW too. its his best work outside of infinite jest.

>>11412939
hipsterfaggot

>>11413357
it really is tho an what makes it funny is that you sound as tho u believe you have some sort of superior taste to many others
ur entry level brah, get taste

>>11413357

Nobody has said Pink Narcissus

>>11413288
/thread honestly

Persepolis is a movie/book

>>11412427
fucking hell all of those movies are obvious as shit
fuck off /tv/

>>11406550
This is a good post if you take Drive out and replace it with 'Somewhere'

Wong Kar Wai
Goddard

Anyone seen this beauty?

>>11408441
this and il divo were /fa/ as fuck

gomorrah also but less so

>>11398329
Stalker is /fa/.

>>11398329
R O M P E R S T O M P E R

>>11413459
>he thinks he can name a film with better story than Seven Samurai
>he thinks he can name a film with better pacing than The Departed
>he thinks he can name a film with better direction than No Country for Old Men, character development than Apocalypse Now, more momentum than Battle Royal
Lol fuck off. These are some of the best movies out of the thousands I have seen. I'm not going to add more decent, obscure films to the list to avoid popular picks...

>>11414752
great movie

>>11409460
Mostly the latter although there is some comedy.

>>11414865
>No Country for Old Men

sure is freshman year at film school here

>>11399945
This looks great, thanks famalan

pic related and Un Prophete

>>11415589
what is up with all of you faggots being in love with La Haine?

I wish i was a non-french and was fascinated by those french things - Claude Lelouche, Brigitte Bardot, French new wave, Alain Delon...
But la Haine? At the best, it was a good movie (it's already a compliment, coming from me). It's not effay though.
Or maybe there is a fascination because of the atmosphere of the arab suburbs, and I can't feel it because what the film shows is the actual everyday life.
The film maker could have filmed a street in Boulogne-Billancourt or Tremblay-en-France for 2 hourts straight. He invented nothing.

>>11416007
>Boulogne-Billancourt

nah, it's pretty gentrified at least in the south. Nanterre though? sure thing

>>11415343
no prob my dude

>>11414865
dude stop

>only one mention of Godard

Also all you fags who liked Lost In Translation, give Toyko.sora a watch.

>>11399299
Oh man those digits

>>11416489

There's another mention but it's spelled with 2 G's

NAKED. Its on youtube like