/fa/ - Fashion

i think h&m has some in their "premium quality" products area. despite what people on here say I haven't found any issues with the "premium quality" products from h&m. their quality is on par with what you might find for maybe around twice the price point but they do lack the very fine "craftsmanship" type details you will see in very high end designer pieces, but are comparable to like wolverine 1000 mile quality, alden boots, etc.

i'd recommend anything from h&m's "premium quality" line if it fits into your wardrobe

>>10589002
Loake on sale

>>10589011
Comparable to alden?
Op please dont listen to this guy. Not even sure if troll or clueless.

>>10589018
don't listen to this guy, I bet you've never even seen the boots and automatically think they're bad just because they are from h&m

>>10589008
w2c those boots?

I was wondering this also. Any other place for cheap chelseas?

Do these really suck?
http://www.hm.com/us/product/83592?article=83592-A&cm_vc=PRA1

>>10589098
Lmao I saw those in store yesterday, they're vomit inducing

>>10589135
damn well that's good to know then.

>>10589065
Post them

>>10589065

You have no idea what you're talking about. Alden is literally the top-tier ready-to-wear boot/dress shoe company. The only way to get boots better than a pair of Aldens is to get custom made-to-measure from an independent company or an artisan.

You don't just "fall into" Alden-tier boot manufacture. It takes decades and generations of crafts knowledge and dedicated factories.

H&M would never even purchase the types of leather that Alden uses. H&M would never invest in the type of quality control and process management that Alden uses. It's antithetical to the core of their business operations. Even if they wanted to get into making Alden-tier boots or shoes, it would take them years to get it right.

I'm not even an Alden fan. If I had the money to purchase aldens I would rather spend it on a bunch of other shit. That being said, there is absolutely no fucking way "premium" h&m is anywhere close to alden, or even wolverine for that matter.

>>10589098
Honestly, there's plenty of stuff from H&M that's passable. I own a good many of their basic type products like shirts, button ups, sweaters, etc. But their shoes, on the contrary, are across the board complete shit and not worth your money.

>>10589011
>h&m...quality is on par with what you might find for maybe around twice the price point

>comparable to like wolverine 1000 mile quality, alden boots, etc.

>comparable to alden

m8 ur fucked in the head

>>10589216
wow yeah those H&M 'premium' boots look like shit
they don't even look on par with John Varvatos or Vince or any of those mid level wannabe designer brands.

Alden looks pretty good compared to the other Chelseas at that price point, probably gonna go with those. Is kenneth cole any good?

>>10589507
No it's not any good m8

>>10589507
kenneth cole is not good. the store I work at stocks them for the occasion that poor people come in and need clothes for weddings. stuff like johnston and murphy is even better. kc leather is stiff and gross

for chelseas I would skip lunch for a few weeks and double your budget.

Story Et Fall

Suede or shiny leather?

Help me senpai.

>>10589773
leather is more versatile and can stand up to wear better than suede
depends what your style is though, leather is probably your better option

>>10589002

This style of boot is faggy as fuck lmao

>>10589008
>the hommies are trading in they Jordan's for Chelsea's
This is the kind of shit that's been pissing me off.

>>10589002
It really sucks that the Lands End Fulton Chelsea has been out for a while and won't return. I think it was their best value at around $70 or less on sale.

>>10589833
Your really better off in the long run buying something at least $150

>>10589788
god what are you doing here you faggot

>>10589805
>niggers can't into faggot fashion

http://www.jackerwin.com/products/ellis-black-full-grain

>>10589850

>calls someone else a faggot
>wears boots that are literally used in the gay community by twink bottoms

Brand: Lloyd
Perry or vigan

Made in Germany

>>10589805
They're Air Forces you fucking retard lol

>>10589011
Topkek
Nice bait

>>10589014
This.
And D. H. Pollak

I got those and they are pretty neat
http://wills-vegan-shoes.com/vegan-mens-chelsea-boots-black.html

ASOS has some for cheap, and they go on sale all the time. I haven't seen them in person, but I have the ankle boots and they're great. I also have a few other pairs of their shoes, though, and those are rubbish. YMMV.

>>10589002
clarks gatley top

>>10589011
one of my friends has black leather chelseas from h&m and they look fine and were only about 50$. they've lasted her for a good amount of time, obviously the quality isn't great but it's better than you'd expect and they look good
good option for a beater pair to see if you like the style

>>10589098
those are the ones my friend has
>>10590406
what is wrong with them? they look like average chelseas to me?

>>10589872
Leather jackets must be gay too.

BTW @op look for R.M Williams boots used on eBay or other stores. Should be in your price range.

>>10589182
Bullshit, h&m make the flimsiest shit imaginable.

Fine if you're just behind a till all day I guess

>>10589008
lel, fat legs and ugly Chelseas, someone doesn't know how to fashion

>>10589098
If you're that desperate try Asos instead, they are somewhat passable, the silhouette isn's as fucked and at least they are real leather, for only a couple of bucks more.

>>10590420

They are if you wear them with these edgy fairy boots.

>>10589872
>gay people wear socks
>you're wearing socks
>fucking homo faggot nigger

>>10590958
>the silhouette isn's as fucked
what about the h&m silhouette is fucked?

>>10590070
Lloyd ist absolut überteuerter geklebter Müll. Alles Marketing.

>>10589014
Second this, and you don't necessarily need to wait for a sale. Herring sells the Loake Hutchinson chelseas for $215 USD.

>>10591044
Also ich hab 2 Paar Schuhe von Lloyd und bin ehrlich gesagt zufrieden damit.
Hattest du in der Vergangenheit Probleme mit der Verarbeitung? Hab die Schuhe noch nicht so lang und will keine Überraschung erleben.

>>10591204
bin zwar nicht der op aber abgesehen von der verarbeitungsqualität find ich lloyd schuhe ziemlich vertreter-core.

>>10590958
>Asos
>shoes
GFTO

>>10589002

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got them this friday, im amazed of the quality.

>>10591214
>>10591204
Habe nicht viel Ahnung von Lloyd, da mich so ein Müll nicht interessiert. Nur ich weiß, dass abgesehen von dieser teuren Serie (kp wie die heißt) die Schuhe nicht einmal rahmengenäht sind, sondern komplett geklebt sind. Mit Rahmengenäht ist nicht die Naht Außen gemeint btw.
Trage selbst eig. nur sneaker, weil ich noch ziemlich jung bin, aber wenn ich mal z.b. Chelseas kaufe für 200-300 (Einsteigerbereich, kein Witz), dann sollen die auch ein paar Jahre halten, deshalb ist sowas schon wichtig.

Schaut mal Loake oder meermin z.b. ist gute Einsteigerklasse, aber auch kein super Leder bei dem Preis, ist ja klar.

>>10589078
99% sure it's Zara, AW14, I have the same shoes

Bought today for 120$$

Can you only wear really skinny jeans with Chelsea's? And I'm guessing no cuffing jeans?
All the pics I've seen are guys with skin tight jeans and I was wondering if you have to wear them with those or if it'd still look good with a tapered not as tight pair (still slim)

Are chelseas the goto winter shoewear this year too, or is there some new shit I need to check out? Haven't been paying attention at all, and all I see on the streets are chelseas

I've had my John varvatos luxe Chelsea boots for over a year and they're great. I think they go for about $260.

>>10589002
Aldo isn't bad

>>10592319
where do you live?

>>10592224
I think the whole point of wearing tight as fuck jeans with them is that it accentuates the boots.

>>10590267
which ankle boots? im looking for a good cheap pair

>>10592216
glad i didn't cop these, look cheap as fuck in real life.

>>10589002
What do you think of these? I know that they aren't quite chelseas, but I'm thinking of maybe getting them. I'm also thinking about just getting normal black chelsea boots.

>>10592533
where are they from then?

Zara 1/2

Zara 2/2

>>10589768
>>10591936
>>10592539

pls stop talking about this brand. if you like this brand, stfu about it.

the more people order, the more likely this shit will implode TOJ-style.

be quiet. this is why we can't have nice things.

any experiences with margiela boots senpai
hows the sizing

>>10592663
give the poor just enough to think they can propser but not enough to ever get them off the treadmill of work. a small company that dedicates itself to quality has every right to prosper if there is demand for their products

you're a piece of shit and that brand is spammed all over sufu and tumblr nonstop anyway so ur too late

>>10592684
This person is in need of shoe trees

>>10589002
these seem so fucking gay and pleb
to me. Why not get some reagular boots or lowoxfords.

>>10592539
they're called jodhpurs and yeah go for it i think they look even more sleek that Chelseas

Shoe The Bear black suede chelseas, around 200$

>>10592716
not that guy but is it bad if I like the look of boots like that? It makes me think they're soft and comfy and 100 years old.

>>10592765
Like what ever you want man

>>10592765
shoe trees are for homosexuals anyway (not that theres anything wrong with that)

>>10592765
Yeah its all personal preference, but alas the boots wont last as long.

Also, if one has so many pairs of boots, it would probably be wise to wear some pairs in while keepin some looking fresh.

>not wearing doc marten chelseas

>>10592717
Yes, they are for fags. Especially the beatle boot style ones. Now a real man wears these

>>10592895
i assume you fuck dudes or are a british twink if you like this shit

>>10592895
>>10592887
Stop trolling
Seriously the ugliest Chelsea (if you can call them that) I've ever seen
Such a disgusting clunky silhouette

>>10589162
>Alden is literally the top-tier ready-to-wear boot/dress shoe company. The only way to get boots better than a pair of Aldens is to get custom made-to-measure from an independent company or an artisan.
kek

Have you ever owned anything else besides Alden?
Alden are the "highest tier" boot/shoemaker in the US, but the English and European shoe/bootmakers shit on Alden in every way from quality of materials, to quality control. The only thing Alden has going for it: a range of casual styles and different widths for the same last to suit a range of feet.

Seriously, Alden have the lowest standards, and the least discerning workers and QC.

>>10592887

>>10592895
>Now a real man wears these
a real man wears chink-made shit that lasts six months to ape the lowest level of manual labor pleb of a country founded by criminals and other scum?

kek

blundstone was good
now it is shit

if you're talking about style, well, if you want to look like an aussie construction worker, fine
but at least buy something better than blundstone crap

Dune London. Got myself a good pair of boots for like 140 euros.

>>10592697

you're fucking stupid if you think the point of my post is to stop the company from prospering. i hope it does prosper, that's the point.

the owner is the sole proprietor and operator of the company. he handles everything, and he's doing a really good job. do you know why? because his company's growth is sustainable.

someone did a count, and he's fulfilled at least 600 orders since earlier this year. that's pretty damned decent money--but it might not be enough to hire staff yet after his living expenses. that means he's still doing everything himself.

there's a reason he hasn't made his website user-friendly. he does not want to get bogged down by orders. if he gets more orders than he can handle, then the angry customer e-mails will come in by the boatload and he will spend literally all day answering e-mails and not getting work done, which will increase the likelihood that his company will implode. if the forums are any indication, he already spends a significant portion of his day answering e-mails.

it's pretty freakin' obvious what he's doing. he's taking on what business that he himself can handle until he can stash away enough to expand his operation. once he can hire on a customer-service rep or two and ensure that his factory can handle the additional production, he will likely 'go live' with his website and that shit will blow up, guaranteed, and he will make money hand over fist. the prices will also rise significantly.

this also gives him time to perfect his designs, as evidenced in the change of his toe-box to a sleeker shape. in essence, he's keeping his company in beta until he can raise the capital (through beta sales) to go live.

he's not hurting for orders. in fact, he's probably reaching his limit on what he himself can handle alone. and if it keeps growing and gets uncontrollable before he has the capital to hire staff and secure additional factory resources, then the shit will implode just like TOJ.

you know nothing.

>>10593206

I worked in high end shoe retail for years. I've handled american brands like alden and AE, as well as euro brands like church's and loake, as well as countless other brands. I've probably tried on, handled, owned, and generally dealt with more shoes in the past five years than you will in the rest of your life.

alden is right up there with the best of ready-to-wear shoe companies.

>>10593273
Agreed, but let thread die now and let's never speak of this again.

/thread

>>10592571
based

>>10592684
I have margiela side zips. Fucking goat shoes. But don't get the shitty h&m collaboration ones

I went up half a size. I'm a true 42 and went with a 42.5. Copped on a sale.

>>10593282
>I worked in high end shoe retail for years
I'm sorry, but the opinions of a minimum wage shoeshop flunky such as yourself are not relevant to this discussion.

>alden is right up there with the best of ready-to-wear shoe companies.
Nope.
Not in the slightest.

>as well as euro brands like church's and loake
lmao

>>10589216
I'm impressed you made that picture to btfo that guy. On a side note Alden are beautiful

>>10593738

you're all flash, no substance. >>>/shitposting/

>>10592571
Bought these yesterday sexc as hell

>>10590963
>edgy
>fairy

Man, it's like you don't realise you've just slapped a buzzword in there and contradicted yourself. Well done anon

>>10591222
Fuck off, ASOS has some good shoes and the price is not bad

>>10593910
Post some pics please

>>10594123
tell me if you want anymore angles or something. literally doing nothing all day

>>10593282
What about Gaziano & Girling, John Lobb, Enzo Bonafé, Saint Crispin, Edward Green etc?

It's nice when you compare Alden with the cheapest budget shoe producers like Loake and Herringshoes lol

>>10594137
How about on your feet looking down? Basically take couple on feet pictures, it's one thing to have pics of the shoes, and another to see them on.

>>10594289

>>10594336
>>10594289

>>10594137
>>10594336
>>10594340
Fuck, looking good. How does the material feel?

>>10594336
>>10594340
Not bad, did you test them out outside? How's the grip etc?

Btw post kid!

>>10594423
thanks, the material feels decent. not amazing. it certainly isn't bad. they are 100% real leather. good for only 140$
>>10594425
since i only got them yesterday I only walked outside in them for like 3 blocks this morning to get coffee. small sample size but they felt great to walk in, not slippy at all. comfy.

what colour chelseas could match both blue and black skinny jeans? I don't want to have to buy two pairs

>>10594432
black..
also bumping this q>>10592224

>>10594432
>>10594434
what about this sort of thing?

>>10594427
>>10594340
>>10594336
Btw how's the sizing on them? Zara only has full sizes no .5

>>10594437
that color would match both black and blue skinnies
>>10594442
fit true to size. wear a euro41 normally and that's what i got them in and they fit well

>>10594449
>>10594437
Thank you. Last question, could you please tell me one or two good stores to get /fa/ online. Haven't been here in a long while. The ones i pictured were on asos.

>>10594464
do you mean good websites for chelseas or just updating your wardrobe in general?

>>10592539
>>10592663
>>10593273
are the images on the website not available do discourage sales?
I want some good chelseas and these are reasonably priced, no idea what is what though

>>10594548
Updating wardrobe. Like a cheaper asos maybe.

bump

i bought the doc martens. whoops.

>>10594883
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig mistake senpai desu

>>10594884
why

>>10594604
want to know as well

>>10594891
personal preference but i think they're ugly as fuck
clunky, the silhouette is terrible. the point of chelseas is to have a slim, sleek silhouette but the docs do not achieve that. and the sole is ugly
this is all my opinion though

Post outfits with chelseas please, need inspo

>>10594883
post them on your feet. they can look good, but it ain't easy.

should i get tan suede, black suede or black leather? can't decide

>>10593222
Blundstones are amazing. Yeah they moved a lot of there manufacturing off shore but they still make an awesome boot, I believe they still make their gumboots in Australia. In this day and age pretty much everything is manufactured else where now. Been wearing them for years and will continue to wear them for years to come.