/fa/ - Fashion

First off, anyone have any experience with Elena Dawson stuff, or even know anything of the brand? From what I've seen looks pretty similar to something like Paul Harnden, but was wondering if anyone could enlighten me a bit.
Looking at this linen shirt on grailed, wondering if its a possible Yohji alternative for a nice white linen.

How are 15% silk to 85% viscose Rick Owens tees?

I like the idea of the thread but /rickg/ turned into an exclusive club of a dozen or so posters who only come to /fa/ for it, I wonder if those people would migrate into a designer genre general or just wait for another rick general

>>10372434
the viscose silk blend tanks are GOAT, imo much better than the 100% cotton ones

>>10372434
I've got a longsleeved ribbed white tee in this blend, really nice man, stacks wonderfully on the arms, can be twisted around the body nicely - hems shred even more easily than I would have thought though, so depends whether or not you're into that look - I really am.
Also, really soft from day one.

every single one of his fits:

http://shuitsang.com/tagged/404

>>10372436
Well I was one of the very frequent posters, and starter of many of the first 'reappearances' of frequent Ricky Gs so hopefully others will follow suit - also should dispel some of the posters spamming posts about dicks and stepdancers.

>>10372449
Agreed mate, extreme influence on me, feel free to post some to bump the thread my man.

>>10372451
In the same boat as you, though I loved the relative slow movement of the rick thread, Im guessing a genre wide thread is going to move a helluva lot faster

>>10372417
Important notice for anyone with a 34W, there is a pair of these NEW on grailed for just over $400 and I would like someone to snap em up.
https://www.grailed.com/listings/180801-raf-simons-black-t-shirt-trousers

>>10372449
holy shit this is a gold mine

how does this guy afford all this

>>10372471
hes a lowkey "designer"

>>10372475
Ahh one of those types,

Still has to be doing pretty well, his wardrobe is worth 1000's

new raf but still
really like this, but not the blue

>>10372485
lmao try 10,000's
the desinging stuff doesnt get him money tho hes not been doing that long

Julius reporting in. Is this my thread?

>>10372417
Can we talk about OG Helmut Lang here or is this an edge lords only type of thing

rick what the fuck

https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/rick-owens/yellow-suede-goodyear-flex-boots/1181113

>>10372564
They look decent in sandy dust fits but man whoever styled them there made them look out of place

>>10372564

Funny. Their other mustard fits are solid.

>>10372633
>>10372570
>>10372564

This is what I mean, the goodyears would look dope there

>>10372564
the green ones mrporter got are dope

>>10372449
If everyone is searching for good stuff on SZ, just check this guy's tumblr. 100% good fits, 0% little Hitler throwing fits.

>>10372436
I was one of the /rickg/ posters. I'm also a huge AnnD fan and massive Raf nerd, so this kind of thread is awesome.

>>10372564
Rick has always been influenced by Hip-hop culture. Him making a play on Timbs makes sense honestly

>>10372666
They're just suede boots, not Timbs, Satan trips.

>>10372668
I'm well aware they arent actually timbs, but to pretend the similarities are coincidences is stupid

>>10372678
Oh I was looking at the fitpic, they're indeed timbs-like on the website.

>>10372434
feels so fucking hot, at least the ls ones are. the mainline cotton is better than the silk viscose imo

>>10372471
He basically saved loads for no particular reason over his adolescence, say for college or whatever, then realised he didn't know what to do with the money, his mum told him to invest it wisely and he always liked design, so essentially had a massive start up. That's what I remember reading from his tumblr like a year ago.
Also the pieces I've seen from him have been pretty impressive.

>>10372756
>He basically saved loads for no particular reason over his adolescence

Tfw this is me

Tfw I need it to buy a house

>>10372548
>>10372554
Yeah why not man its all love.

>>10372564
IMO these are really cool, and >>10372666 is very right, it really makes sense in his aesthetic.
Also posting the grey-green bc the other anon didn't.

OP here, going to post a couple of inspo/goat items to keep the thread up a bit.
I urge you all to post recent cops, collections etc they are genuinely really interesting to see and in these threads people will be nice to you.
Pic is Rick cutout dunks, some of the first ever produced, and IMO one of the absolute best versions. Also, very rare, *very* expensive.

>>10372805
Ive seen those before, always assumed they were a DIY.

What season were they produced in?

>>10372817
Not a DIY, seen them for sale two or three times in different colourways. Unfortunately couldn't tell you, anyone here know?

>>10372817
Around 2006 I guess

DRKSHDW parka in mudcloth, one of the coolest Rick parkas I've seen, if this had drawstrings it would be my number one grail coat.

Ann D alpaca + virgin wool knit, pleased to say this is a recent cop.

Ann D layered sneakers, only ever seen these beat to shit, IMO one of the few shoes that look nicer clean, would love to find a pair for sale one day.

>>10372805
>>10372817
I think theyre called gigar dunks or something and around 2006 not sure

Just bought this 3-patch shirt off eBay and it turned out to be fake :(

But it's so spot on as a fake I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Heavy sorta "grained" cotton, all the right detailing and stitching for a rick tee.

>>10372868
How'd you find out it was fake

>>10372868
Here's what tipped me off to it being fake though

>>10372875
For a minute I thought someone had frankenstein'd a tag from a fake mainline piece to a legit piece, But I can't figure out any reason why. So I guess it's just a really well made fake.

>>10372875

That font is so wrong. Always ask for pics of the tags.

>>10372868
Also I've seen some patch fakes. The patches are usually dead giveaways too, if you look at up close

Raf 04 sleeveless hoodie with necklace.

>>10372879
They had pics of tags on the eBay listing but it was from a legit shirt that he sold before. Fuckin' swindled. He's taking the return though.

I almost want to keep it, and I feel bad about that.

>>10372867
Cheers buddy, that's really good to know.

I've never seen patch shirts in person before. Are the patches kind of a viscose material or more cotton? Cuz these seem pretty well done, they're just kind of shiny

How do I get sick creases like this on my Guidi's? I just bought a pair but they don't look nearly as cool. Also they're a bit roomy around my calves is that normal?

>>10372937

Are they the 988? The folds happen naturally. Unless you got the slim shady variant, the space around your calves is normal.

>>10372884
dont return, report him on ebay

>>10372950
yeah, they're the 988's so it's just a matter of time and wear?

>>10372958
If I report him on eBay, I have to prove the lack of authenticity (this could cost $100+, if I can even manage to find someone to do it for Rick). If I can't prove it, then I'm stuck with a fake shirt and I don't get a refund.

>>10372868
w2c?

>>10372967
He's also being really helpful. I don't think he was aware that it was a fake at all.

>>10372884
>>10372958
>>10372967
>>10373020

if hes taking the return and giving you back your money then whats the problem?

be glad youre not stuck w/ a fake and stop trying to swindle him back??

>>10372564
what rick bomber is that

>>10373032

https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/rick-owens/black-reverse-flight-jacket/1179173

>>10373020
>>10373025

how can i find an actual one of those and how much would it cost?

>>10373025
I'm 100% not trying to swindle him back??

I'm taking the return, sending the package back. Someone else told me to report him, and I told him why I wouldn't??

>>10373043
This exact version is sold out as far as i know, but he does a patch shirt basically every season. The current one is printed on either milk level tee or black jumbo tee, and you can find it here:

https://www.rickowens.eu/en/men/products/du15f5250rpat-11

But it'll probably resell around $150 if you're patient

Trying to figure out what i could wear with blood red pants.

Im trying to complete the set. Any ideas?

>>10372417
I'm actually really glad someone made a thread like this. Shui is fucking GOAT too

>>10373086
i hate you so much

How does /fa/ feel about Dries Van Noten?

>>10373467

Respect him as a designer but the quality of his garments feels Zara tier.

>>10372554
Can someone explain to me the decline of Helmut Lang other than the fact he left the practice.

>>10373476
Yeah don't agree with you at all on this...

>>10373752
>He left
>Theory bought the brand
>It's shit

Made a compilation pic of my rick pieces because of the rick general so Ill share it here since the approach seems to be a bit more broad now Ill update with my other pieces from the aforementioned designers at some point.

I sold the geos, trying to sell the combats. I had prisoners and pods but sold em. Looking to downsize more, will likely only keep the exploder parka as it is a grail of mine. Will be holding on to the mountain hoodie probably but it might go here if I wind up short on funds.

Aw14 Black Geos
Blistered Combats
Drkshdw Exploder Parka
Drkshdw Mountain Hoodie
Rick's Tank
Ss15 faun longsleeve (bnwt trying to sell, havent worn it)
Double layer tee
Unstable tee in sand (one of my first and fav rick shirts)
Triple waxed black denim (traded these off of trunks for magic cards a while back lol)
Drkshdw tote

Ccp velvet shirt

Currently on grailed

Ccp jacket in wool/nylon/cotton

Bambas 1s in reverse goat

pic is a ys coat stolen from the humalien tumblr

>>10372536
something about the shape of the new hightop velcros looks iffy to me. Also the unpainted eyelets are kinda gross on the white ones


Trying to decide whether i should get the layered yohji pants

>>10372864
eh i sold a similar pair to these a couple years ago.

Not really a fan of the flappy leather around the ankle. difficult to style

been looking for white velcro highs in my size for like 8 months now. Don't really like the look of the new ones.

>>10373785
what is that tee on bottom left?

>>10373845
Its a black double layer with an unstable tee in sand layered underneath since I normally wear them together.

found this at a thrift store

>>10373785
as a poorfag from a post communist country who finds all rick's prices abnormally high Im just curious, how much have you spend on this stuff altogether?

>>10374532
I'll post mind I guess too as a bump.

it really didnt cost /that/ much - none of it was bought retail and I found some really good sales for the tee's (getting them for like $50 and shit)

You really dont have to beggar yourself to get nice pieces, also what alot of people do is put in an original investment - say $1000, buy a load of stuff they like then resell and then buy more. So they always stick around their original investment

>>10373934
Dope, does it fit? how much?

>>10372434
really comfy and look great. the cotton ones are also really nice. the drkshdw cotton ones ive handled arent as nice

any julius bros in the house?

If this is going to be a reoccouring general (which I hope it is like the rick one) it needs a better name than just a list of the designers.

Whats the aethestic or genre actually called?

>>10374710
Generally it's called "avant-garde".

>>10374718
a/g/general is breddy catchy actually mate

>>10374721
Eh why not m8.

Post your biggest designer dissapointment

>pic related

Couldve been the GOAT shoe, but quality to price ratio is dreadful

>>10374608
cute

>>10372417

hey.

i've been into streetwear for like 3 or so years now but I've only just started getting into designers/fashion etc. at the moment i'm mostly just interested in the shoes aspects of designers (mostly because it's easier to justify $400 on shoes than a shirt, for me) but i'm growing to appreciate the clothes too. I'm quite partial to the newer raf stuff i've seen (this season/last season), but I haven't seen much of his older stuff to compare it to.

So can anyone tell me/show me why raf's older stuff is considered his best work?

thanks.

>>10374801
wtc coat man daym
>>10374834
Raf's older stuff embodied a rebellious attitude, it was very finely crafted, lots of hand sewn patches etc, and was essentially 'cooler' than his more recent work, which could be described as pretty uninspired and gaudy, even his most recent collections seem to hark back to his glory days with the same level of subtlety as Eminem releasing Marshall Mathers 2. Look up some old raf seasons - particularly around 02-06 and you should see what I mean, I am really not an expert in Raf at all.

use this as a WAYWT aswell to get away from the aids that is the standard waywt

>>10372861
absolutely gorgeous cop, I'm very jel
>>10372864
also cool as fuck although plain low tops look better

why is Ann stuff so beautiful ;_;
why will I never have a full Ann wardrobe ;_;

Does anyone own a Rick tag wallet? Kind of want

suggestions on outerwear options with this type of fit??

I'm having an outerwear crisis, it's like a migrant crisis but with greater human misery.
>>10374949
..

>>10375028
loose fitting linen/cotton blazer or jacket, probably from yohji? reckon that would look cool as shit

>>10375033
>>10375028
Literally jsut about to suggest a blazer like this rick one

Also a slim cut bomber would look good, maybe in suede?

>>10374889
thanks for the reply.
can you (or anyone) suggest some specific shows or collections of rafs which stand out to you as being the best? or which are "quintessential" i guess

>>10375050
This is one of the old sdchool raf grails that alot of his fans want

>>10373785
How much did you get for the geos?

>>10375033
>>10375040
ye I could see those, less keen on bombers though but just personal pref

>>10375116
dude I'm sorry but your efforts at all this stuff is so hamfisted atm

>>10375116
God you're such a fucking victim. You're even copying bday now

>>10372424
If you look at the tag of Paul Harnden's stuff it says "Paul Harnden Shoe makers", that's because before Elena Dawson worked for him all he made were shoes. She was the drafter/cutter for his stuff, which is why her stuff now looks like her work when she worked for Paul Harnden.

>>10372434
I live in a very humid climate that gets very dry winters and nothing has been more better at insulating me (yes, even compared to actual hiking insulation gear) than a rick silk/visc tee under a close knit woolen sweater. Can't even feel it, moulds to body, insulates. Don't be afraid to size down to get a tighter fit, it'll loosen out but after washing shrink back to size.

>>10372443
Compared to the cotton ones the Silk/visc hems are pretty much petrified. But this reminds me please if you feel like the hems are too long don't be a bitch. CUT THEM! THEYRE MADE FOR U!

Wow, this thread turned into a shitty thread so fast.

Do everyone a favour and go through Rick's interviews section... or read any book.

>>10375201
This, just cut all raw hem stuff to fit like you want it, no point in keeping it as it is just because you might want to sell it further down the line

>>10375192
Are you serious? That's sick I was taking a total guess, thanks a lot man I appreciate it.

>>10375116
yeah sorry the shoes look really out of place

>>10375116
I quite like this, not a fan of the ramones though, never got the tie up with shorts and ramones personally. Ignore the hate

>>10374718
As far as I know, I don't think the style is called avant-garde, that's just the designers. Like, the meaning of avant-garde is something experimental and innovative.
From what I understand by this whole style, genre or aesthetic is that it's called "grunge".
But that's just my guess.

>>10375116
Very nice individual pieces. Love the sweater. But the combination of all of it together looks bad man.

>>10375116
top half is good.

dont try to do the leggings thing.

black pod shorts are actually pretty hard to pull off

>>10375269
How so?

>>10374710
>>10374718
>>10375259
it's better if it's just named by the members active and not some meaningless umbrella term.

I know, it forces people to know their shit but that's a good thing.

But to at least feed something...
Of those listed in the OP
Rick and Julius can be considered similar, in how they present clothing
Yohji, Ann and Raf can be considered something else
CCP experimental.

These are still extremely superficial, if these designers were adequately examined all the similarities would dissolve.

>>10375274
This is all that has to be said.

I think there's something lost with the shorts but does it really matter what a couple of strangers in a silly thread like this think about what you're wearing?

I don't know if there's impact here.

>>10375282
You could say that about any opinion you come across in life m8. But some are actually worth listening to

Ann is love Ann is life.

>>10375276
The way the pods and leggings stands out, it just very weird looking. I think it's because the sweater is already pretty fit to your body, so the whole loose aura emitting from the pods just makes it look wrong

>>10375290
Omg I love that cardigan. Such a shame it's so expensive.
If don't talk clothing took bodyparts as payment, I would have given my right arm.

>>10375289
Yes, I could. What's your point?

Look, if someone is so concerned about wearing something that they need to validate it's "consistency" by posting a picture online instead of going outside and feeling things out for themselves then maybe words are lost on them to begin with.

Experience and relationships are built by investigation, not some crude autopsy by aberrant strangers.

What's the point of these threads, I really feel like sometimes even with Ernest intent the general demeanor drags everything down to pity.
I don't know how to make this explciit; no one cares about your Rick Owens or Ann Demeulemeester collections if they just sit in a wardrobe and when queried the only response is a hazy "it's poetic and a socially (internet) standardised grail"

>>10375290
ahHAaha

>>10375277
rick and julius are very different. Stop trying to classify everything eh

>>10375290
nice tbh.

Are you from NZ?

>>10375320
I'm not. Did you read my post? I explicitly said it was meaningless but to attempt that would be the first step.

And no, there are distinct similarities between Julius and Rick, their references and what they seek to achieve.

As a glimpse. Both Tatsuro Hirokawa and Rick Owens are heavily seeking to recreate a specific clothing culture in a music scene. Tatsuro; techno from West Berlin, Rick; glam rock scene in LA
The references are obvious enough in the clothing.

Yes, all three of us live in NZ.

>>10375320
>>10375328
Yup, Auckland.

>>10375309
Lol wtf are you writing? Are you honestly trying to say because you have these pieces and actually wear them that's all that matters? Then you're just as good as any FOB Chinese college kid. Being competent with the pieces and a tally being able to style then together is much more important than whatever the fuck you are writing about.

Realize your fits are shit, because they are. You're proportions are always wonky, palettes clumsily put togehter, and silhouettes are always unsettling in a bad way. If you never take criticism then you'll never improve, and right now you really need to improve...

Writing up paragraphs of bullshit isn't going to suddenly make your trash fits miraculously more appealing to someone.

>>10375328
that's a limited view of rick and you can find similarities between any two things if you reduce them enough. Watev tho all love

>>10375277
>>10375259
It's just to avoid calling the thread Rick Ann Yohji Julius etc..
Even on SZ, which is based on these designers, they call it SZ-approved brands, there's no name for this style. Still, a lot of people wearing this would get stares in the street meaning people, the masses, aren't ready for this.
Avant garde means before the masses. Even if the designers aren't really similar, they're similar in the fact that their aesthetic isn't common.

>>10375341
I dont think youre talking to who you think youre talking to

>>10375341
Yeah, exactly. What else matters but how you feel in the clothing?
Why do I care about the "FOB Chinese kid"? ( I don't)
None of these concerns mean anything to me, especially not in how i construct my emotions in regards to clothing. That'd be dysfunctional. If my archi. was dependent on some immutable third party? What's the point, there;d be no escape.

Why does "clothing competency matter" who is measuring me? What a strange conflict. Why do you wear clothing?
If I feel complete in my styling and competency and that enhances my comfort that's great, but there's definitely no way someone else could meaningfully inform me on that without some substantial deconstruction (seldom afforded here on 4chan.org/fa).
No, to me how I feel is more important than how other peoples perspectives inform my feelings. Always the case.

I don't think my clothing are any of those things, and for some reason people feel the need to validate that (in the form of complements). What does it mean to improve? Who am I improving for?
All these questions I feel like you've never answered for yourself, but of course the query doesn't matter if the wallet stands there, and the internet here.

If you think it's bullshit that's great.
But I think maybe it's your lack of comprehension, not sure.

>>10375343
I said it was only going to be a glimpse, it's still accurate however.
I mean, maybe read my posts, i said they'd dissolve if you investigate it closely enough...

Prove me wrong, you've provided nothing.

>>10375349
Why do you think they call it SZ approved brands?
it's to commercialise the label, SZ has a underlying "cultural cool factor", which of course a consumer can also access by buying into these highly curated "SZ-approved-brands".

>>10375362
Well that's all this thread is, a discussion of these brands.

>>10375354
That's cool that you feel so passionate about this that you're belying out paragraphs in an act of passion. But in the end you're still posting fits here, and if you were so 100% content with your sartorial style that wouldn't be something you needed to do. Obviously your fits aren't improving the quality of any of the multiple threads you're posting in. To me there has to be something not right about this, either I am write and what you're saying is just bullshit to save face or your actually some transcendent sartorial being that simply graces us with his presence.

>>10375364
Where's the discussion?
It's just people twirling around their E-peens and asking where to cop things.

Is this all /fa/ has to say about their favourite clothing makers?

It's better if people just post fits/interesting pics in these threads because the pseudo-intellectual wannabe fashion writer ramblings are nauseating.

>>10375362
lol what's up with you my man.

>>10375372
You're just personally attacking me, you've not considered anything I've said.

I'm not posting fits here....
I haven't posted a fit here in years...
What face is there for me to save, as an anonymous poster.

I can only re-iterate...
What's the point?
What are you trying to achieve?
Maybe re-read and you'll find something between the bullshit.

>>10375377
Are you new? The point of /fa/ is to find something good in the shitpost.

>>10375383
?
Maybe something like apathy and disappointment, does anyone have something to say or just more whining?

If you're upset you'll never have a competent ability in translating information and want to stick to posting pictures that's cool. Just don't waste your breath and stick to what you know.

I guess to get some tangible ball rolling- why does it seem "pseudo-intellectual" to you?

>>10375377
There has rarely ever been an real discussion here. Mostly just due to the people that inhabit this sit and the posting style, but also because everything that is important and original for the most part has already been said.

>>10375402
There has been discussion because I was there when there was discussion.

The bar is low, anyone can make the leap. Doesn't need to be confined to superfluous bullshit.

There is much more to be said, there will always be more to say.
Like there was an interview released earlier this week where Rick talked about his childhood upbringing as a only child and how he finds this to have a significant impact on his creative development. That it made him have to imagine scenarios more intensely to entertain himself. Because he was alone in the middle of shit fuck no where america.

I thought that was interesting, the impact of isolation on creative development and how his work has been a product of that. Crafting his own neurotic creative lapses.

>>10375410
is this fucking turnleft. How are you so content to type worthless diatribes about clothing?

>>10375415
Where's the lack of worth?
Where's the diatribe?

How is the quality on Odyn Vovk?

>>10374608
those cargos.

>>10375515
julius staple obv.

Thought you guys could help me out a bit.

Can you ID the poncho/coat in the pic? Looked kinda cool and I got curious to know what it actually might be. Ann D, maybe Yohji?

>>10376073
pretty bad picture to id anything

Just won these OG Lang biker jeans , what shoes would go best with them?
The aw99 look book uses derbies but I don't really like the contrast between the slim fit of the jeans then the narrow derbies. What about surplus combat boots?

wore ma_julius today
(+ h&m/drkshdw/guidi/arcteryx veilance)

>>10375506
trash

>>10376609
yeah it is pretty bad. the stuff fits weird too

I did get his leather zip sneakers which were a good deal. but not amazing leather.

>>10376594
kind of embarrassing to see people picking the most boring pieces they can find from internet approved designers, wearing it with basic bitch h&m crap, and then posting online in "artisinal aesthetic" threads

im pretty sure old navy makes clothes less inoffensive than this

>>10376670
This. That fit looks fucking boring as shit. Namedropping all the designers basically confirms all you said about that fag.

>>10376594
damn good

>>10376679
fuck off

>>10376689
fuck off

>>10376690
Just telling the truth m8, that fit sucks. Same old fuccboi shit too scared to commit to the look buying the cheapest third hand garbo

>>10376713
bought new in tokyo... anyway noted, just what I wore today, nothing particularly interesting.

>>10376713
I was someone else saying fuck off, but I agree

>>10376729
guess I'll save posting until it's cold enough here to wear all inaisce again

Just copped a grail of mine, asymmetric ribbed RO tank. Pretty excited, been looking for a decently priced one for well over 2 years

>>10376729
yeah man you totally bought that ages old ma diffusion shit 'new'

>>10376740
realize i am being baited here but.. from isetan in 2012 (julius flagship was out of my size)

can post the mainline julius stuff too if that is really what you really want

>>10376713
here's one from earlier this year

julius/julius/drkshdw/m.a+

>>10376814
Looks good, don't like the boots but they're interesting.

nice fish 2

>>10376582
Anyone?

>>10376814
that tuck is really bad dude. still looks like a boring fit too

>>10376836
Grats on the jeans they look awesome. I'd say some kind of chunky sneaker - leather boots seem a bit too dressy for biker jeans imo.

>>10376848
Hmm I like the idea of Ann D sneaks with them.
The look book actually uses combat boots (from what I can tell , no good pics of it exist) but i'll see what happens when they arrive and I can pair them with stuff

>>10376073
He's a good artist.
I'd like to know all pieces he wears there

>>10375377
that manifesto barely makes any sense

>>10376880
i forget his name but the bald dude who modeled a lot of early julius, attachment stuff translated it at like 2 in the morning. horikawa sends him snippets to translate all the time without context, he had no idea this was going to end up on every tag in production haha

>>10376888
Marc Rushton. Where did you learn that?

>>10376888
marc does not work with tatsuro anymore fyi

>>10376756
>>10376814
You have no taste at all. Everything is bland and boring

>>10376917
yea

>>10376911
thru a friend / acquaintance of his

>>10376920
>Implying bland/clean isn't a style

You may not like it, but putting together high end pieces with an overall goal in mind was successful in this fit. It's not my style so I'm not a fan of it either - but that doesn't make it a bad fit.

>>10376937
I'm not happy with the pants in this, both the tuck as noted and their low rise. need some julius pants...

>>10376949
I agree the pants look a bit weird here, but I think the boots are more at fault

Clompy boots need a bit more volume in pants - not so skinny

>>10376917
what is he doing these days btw? I think he was even the one who set Jona on his path w/ InAisce

>>10376957
pretty sure he runs stealthprojekt.

>>10377040
cool, did not know about this, thanks

>>10376582
Check out some Ann D high tops

Recently copped this 2001 Raf riot riot riot sweater

>>10375290
fucking nice cop m8

guys, i just recieved this mainline tank from a friend who didnt enjoy the fit, its the softest thing I've ever touched (silk viscose blend) but the colour is a bit different to what i usually wear (fairly monotonous).
recommendations on how to wear? what colour top and bottom would this go well with I can layer it underneath obviously.

>>10379082
help me get colourful hehe

>>10379085
>>10379082
ricks "blood" colour would work (im thinking of tinfoils fit here)

>>10372417

>>10379082
wear it under a sweater. the colour is not a big deal.

>>10379090
this isnt tinfoil m8

>>10379189
it is. he posted that to sufu.

on another note lets get some ccp/deepti going

>>10379304
just google it.

>>10379420

>>10379421

So what's the final verdict on wearing Rick & Raf together?
Currently 2poor4geos so any other suggestions are welcome

>>10379442
Doesnt quite work with velcros imo, they need a sleeker fitting pant

>>10379442
sorry about the orientation but here is a rick tee, detroit jeans and velcros

>>10379442
>>10379508
This works alot better because of the pant fit,

I guess rick denim works fine, wouldnt reccomend his sweats but prisoners might be ok - possibly cargos aswell

>>10379508

Did you pinroll?

>>10379508
this look didnt aged well

>>10379530
>>10379563
correct, pic related
>>10379570
couple people have said this, most like it though - its very street-wear but I still feel fly as fuck rocking it

>>10374543
it's a little long in length but the width is good

Copped a Rick Owens Double Layer in Pearl for $160. Is that a decent price?

>>10381045

>>10381045
Yeah thats a sick price, theyre usually way more

>>10375415
what that sum annd?

Someone sell me tech runners size 10 for ~300 pls

based thread

i'm stuck between Ann D or Rick boots

>>10381316
nice are those doc martens

>>10381237
what are the sizing on tech runners, im an adidas 10

>>10381363
.5 big

>>10372864
https://www.grailed.com/listings/183570-ann-demeulemeester-scamosciato-runway-sneaker

>>10372805
>>10372817
>>10372867

>>10381363

TTS for me. I wear a 9.5 in Superstars.

>>10373752
The label was losing money because tastes had shifted. The minimalist look that Lang pioneered had become over-saturated in the market and new trends were growing. I feel that his last seasons were some of his strongest, but they didn't sell well and the brilliance of those collections has only become appreciated years later as minimalism started coming back.

When Prada gained control of the company they made the bad move of closing the Helmut Lang Jeans label, which was a their biggest asset among the financially struggling HL portfolio. Additionally, they started running with some of Lang's latest designs, some of which were kinda strange to be honest. The look Theory era Helmut Lang has become known for appears to be heavily based on these last Lang designs and the perceived new direction he would have gone in, for instance the asymmetrical cuts now found in so much of the label's offerings.

Without a strong visionary designer, the label couldn't survive on name alone. The Theory era womenswear is not that bad, just kind of bland.

Plokhov has definitely done some good for the menswear side of things since he took over, but obviously Helmut Lang as a label will never be the same without the man.

This NYT article from around the time Lang left the label is a pretty good insight into the decline.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/26/fashion/thursdaystyles/decline-and-fall-of-helmut-lang.html

>>10381316
if you want slimmer, go ann d. I personally prefer rick's silhouette though

Exploring options for wool shorts.
I'm looking for something minimal in either a dark earth tone or an off-white color.
Don't particularly want drop crotch, but I'd consider it. Also probably not looking for something ending below the knee.

Anyone have suggestions?
inb4 pods for all the reasons above and because don't really want drawstrings.

Gonna dump some inspo in return.

Yohji Noir

>>10382528

holy fuck I wish I could rock the pants and that pouch

>>10382533
Yeah, it's tough to pull off pouches/outer pockets in that vein. You either gotta go hyper minimal a la the iconic Helmut Lang pouches or heavy industrial like that Deepti one or these Undercover pants.

something made me believe this coat is drkshdw when I saved the photo
anyone know?

>>10382547

>>10375393
you gotta be trolling

>>10374608

why is knoch so handsome?

>>10382559
Oops. I can't believe I didn't do a reverse image search the first time I found the pic.
Thanks.
Have a rare Helmut chronograph.

>>10382547
new from sphinx this season

>got some cash
>no one is selling any good raf or lang shit

excluding grails obvs

>>10382605
so buy a grail
or
I'll sell you a cool double layered knit Lang hoodie if you want.
Size small, army green, excellent condition, $300.

>>10382564
god

>>10374889
very late but the coat is paul harnden's

>>10382634
Piqued my interest, not sure about size small though

I might be medium

>>10382669
Anyone have that fit where he's basically a giant set of wrinkles? Always makes me laugh even though he pulls it off.

>>10382686
Yeah, it's definitely true to size.

>>10382605
what size are you?

>>10382688
Hm, well I wear size 46/48 in jackets

I've never bought a designer hoodie before tho so I can't be sure

>>10382686
whats your email, i'll show you some raf and lang

>>10382688
>giant set of wrinkles

doesn't ring a bell details?

>>10382695
yubei0407@gmail.com

>>10382692
It's a knit piece, but the inner layer is a woven cotton material, which won't stretch. Fits me as a 46. Has patches on the elbows that aren't visible in the photo.

>>10382701
It's one of his night fits, all Julius I think. Leather jacket, some kinda pants, and boots.

>>10382695
Show me what you got too. It's late here so I'll be off for the night, but would love to wake up to what you're looking to sell.

ben3255678@yahoo.com

just copped some red ccp derbies

>>10382451
?
Prada, and then Theory catastrophically mismanaged the label, it wasn't a shift in taste...
If anything the styling was more relevant than ever, so much so it left a huge void in the market which a great number of labels looked to fill (and are still attempting to fill) today.

A few things which made HL such a powerful presence in fashion was its subversive advertising techniques/presentations to the public. The brand was never just clothing- it started clothing but it grew to so much more that to necessitate its position it depended on that "so much more", which no one respected after HL left. Things like store design, media campaigns, show presentation, model casting. All very carefully tailored to pursue HL's vision.

I thought it was that they fully integrated the HL jeans line and disowned every other? It felt like everything was brought into HL jeans so it was now analogous to the RTW stuff?

If you read some older sources/forums on the internet you'll hear people say exactly that there was a dramatic change in the clothings physical character (for the worse) after 1999.

I think that's something that a lot of companies don't understand, how some designers were far more than "clothing makers" for their company- they were it's entire philo.

tl;dr: poor management, didn't have adequate resources to upkeep, didn't respect HL's social persona and how it impacted his market.

It's really hard to sum up but it as definitely not an over-saturation or stagnation in styling...

>>10382720
think i will post on grailed tomorrow for all to see, stay posted

>>10382703
hmm I cannot find what you're describing on his blog, must be some older fit

>>10375290
wtc

What's the opinion on Daniel Patrick/Knomadik? I know he's not quite god tier but I feel like most of his pieces fit the aesthetic. Never judged the quality in person though.

>>10382605
Pigfuck is selling coated OG lang biker denim for 400 buckaroos and there is an astro parka on grailed as well.

>>10383392
looks like mallninja crap.

>>10382695
Hey man if you could email me too, I'm be really interested

WillySavesMe@gmail.com

Anyone know who wears Depti and IE on IG or any other blog. I can hardly find and pictures of their stuff.

I guess this question belongs here..
Is this a men's or women's knit?

>>10384249
says unisex on the site, also looks like its oversized anyways

>>10384272
yeah i know what site i got the picture from, but they label everything as unisex. thats their thing.

anyone know how to remove cum stains off wool/viscose. I had accidentally came on my pods that I had for sale on grailed and now they sold, but I noticed a cum stain on them. I need to get it cleaned asap. I tried water and soap, but it didnt cum off

>>10384713
top kek

>>10384713
Ask your mum. Shes good with getting cum stains out of her clothes

>>10383696
>>10383392
this

>>10382753
sick, how much?