/fa/ - Fashion

>>14994956
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>>14993889
Be on your guard Anon; weight is not directly connected to the quality of a leather jacket. It is first connected with the type of leather used i.e. 1mm Bison will be heavier than 1mm Lamb, so it's about density. Then you factor in the width of the panels (1.5mm is heavier than 1mm), and portions of the jacket that might be two-sided or lined with leather, and then you add in polyester/cotton linings and filler if it's for colder climates. I have jackets that are absurdly light (like my reversible Jonathan Logan) and ones that are absurdly heavy (like my riding Vanson), but the quality is not what is different about them.

>>14994961
Yes. Do you have any questions while I'm on?

A few more thoughts for clarity sake.

The most important thing about a leather jacket is the fit. Unlike synthetics, leather does not stretch, so if you get the wrong size you're stuck with it unless you get it tailored. The impression of old leather being saggy comes from the fibres loosening up, thus allowing the skin to drape in a much more relaxed way than when new. This is why sleeves never look too bad on old jackets but the body and back tend to look awful.

There are several different types of skin you can choose from, and furthermore each type has its own benefits and drawbacks. On the extremities, you have Lamb, which is usually thinly cut, smooth as a fabric, and luxurious to feel. This is used for ladie's handbags and jackets from Varvados. This kind of leather is fashion leather, used to make a unified look that is almost plastic. Beautiful stuff. It is however notorious for not holding its shape, and it's unsuitable for riding.
On the other end of the spectrum, you could consider a jacket made from Bison, Buffalo, Steer, Cow, or Horse. All are suitable for riding, all can be cut using competition weight thicknesses, and all have different grain patterns which age accordingly. These are much heavier jackets than the lamb, they're not designed necessarily for fashion, and sometimes they require a break-in period.

These are the real things. If you just want to experiment with leather jackets as a 'fashion' decision, I think you should find a low budget disposable fashion store where you can try on something made of fake leather (which is usually made of plastic). Find a good fit, wear it for a season, and see what you think.

The leather jacket in an ensemble is the centerpiece, always. This means that you have to tailor your fashion towards the jacket or in sympathy with it. If you're not used to this kind of fashion, you'll have to learn.

>your friendly Donte

>>14703821
Thanks...it was the first one I had custom made to my specs, and so it fits perfectly. It's not something you could buy off the rack, nor is this particularly design made anymore. Such is life.

>>14703920
Don't worry about the elbow area; my Vanson has the same thing, but on both elbows. Granted, the sleeves zip up to the elbow on mine, so there are ways to alleviate it. Anyway, it's a riding jacket...elbows on them always look strange.

>>14703994
No, for many reasons. I hate the short jacket hood combo as it's simply thuggish. I wear the long one to work and after, so quite honestly it fits what I need. Regarding Schott; I thought they had the armor option? Anyway, even if you're experienced just make sure to 'dress for the crash' rather than not. You don't want to be in a situation that you couldn't have foreseen and have fucked up problems for the rest of your life. Remember, our grandpappies didn't have shitty drivers who didn't know the rules and pedestrians and bicyclists who break the rules all the time but think they won't get hit. It's a far more dangerous road than it used to be. I only ride in desolate areas now...city riding is a death sentence.

>>14704001
But Anon, the red stuff isn't a flaw...it's a feature! And anyway, women love red and are drawn to it, so it's win win win.

As for >>14704006, no. The reason I like the jacket in its design is that it's clean. The waist is clean and just tapers down, and a double-breasted would have too much material floating around. Thanks for your ideas though...

>>14704097
Thanks. It's one of 7 that I know of in the world, and they were made specifically for each client, so you won't be able to get one. But that's why going custom sizing is always a win if you're in decent shape. Also custom sizing really isn't that much more expensive than a name brand off the rack, so why not go with something that fits you rather than something that you have to fit into.

>>14540591
Just remember a few things:

1) a leather jacket is usually the centerpiece of your ensemble that you wear; it attracts the most attention, it draws the eye no matter what colour or texture, so to make it work you have to find what works with the jacket, not the other way around.

2) You can go in one of two directions: either you pair the jacket with things that are similar in texture, durability, colour, purpose, or accoutrements, or you go in the complete opposite direction pairing it with stuff that should not go with it at all. Going halfway in between though always looks like shit.

If you go leather boots, match the colour to the jacket (black jacket, black boots). If you go off of leather, look for shoes that would fulfill the function of the jacket (which is why greasers from the 60's wore sneakers which are convenient on motorbikes).

You can definitely experiment with looks, but just be aware (as I mentioned before) the waist and where the belt of the jacket sits...that affects the kind of flare out of the trousers you wear, as well as drop point for the front of the t-shirt if it's untucked. Lots of things to consider.

Good luck.

>from your friendly neighborhood DonteAnon.

>>14216998
Hell yes! That being said, I'll post this one because it seems to trigger Anons the most.

>>14217114
No, you.

>>14217176
Fit is everything; if the fit is near-skin tight, then go for it. If not, find another. The only problems you see with older jackets is with lack of care, mold, or things inside the lining that you don't know about.

>>14218277
Save up, and if you don't own a leather jacket yet, choose a design that is timeless so you don't waste money on something that will be dated. Double-rider, aviator, B-3, and cafe racer styles are generally fine in this regard in trad colours (black, brown). If you go further afield, then the timelessness can disappear.

>>14218613
No problem...get one for the spring/fall. That being said, heavy leather jackets are awesome.

>>14218915
The only problem with Allsaints is that their actual leather is not high quality. That's how they save. Compare their leather with Hugo Boss.

>>14219112
Right proper write-up.

cont.

I've had nothing but good experiences with custom sizing, and the one time I bought a jacket off-the-rack, it turned out to be the one I wear the least because quite frankly it doesn't look as good as the others on me. So, if it's your one and only jacket, spend the money to make it right.

Bottom line: try on as many as possible, make sure you wear the clothes you plan to wear with the jacket, ask manufacturers about custom sizing and how much it costs, and consider seriously the type of hide it's made of. Also be open to the possibility that the double-rider style may not be for you. I have yet to find one that I like on my body, so I simply haven't bought one. I may never, but that's okay. Good luck.

>>13882643
From what I know, the other jackets from Soul Revolver are fine. They are nearly all slim-fit though, so just be aware of this. No beer bellies, and if you plan on bulking up in the winter, their jackets simply won't fit. Which one are you looking at? Also, there are MANY companies that do this sort of thing...don't be afraid to look at others.

>>13671535
Well that was impressively quick.

So Anon, what leather are you sporting this season?

>>13565134
>>13565156
>>13565164
I think my jacket can be incorporated into this well.
What are your thoughts, guys?

>>13559885
>>13559938
The biggest problem of course is that everyone attaches meaning to visual things in their own way, so there is no way to predict what could be meaningful and what may not be. Language script has the benefit of being far more complex than a flag, so perhaps that's a reason why any flag would be more prone to the concerns you noted earlier. However, a flag like this one has centuries of meaning attached to it, depending on which part you see and which part you remember, so perhaps the complexity still resides in the symbol, just in a different way.

Anyway, the real-life results have been clear over the past month or so. No one cares...lol Okay, the thread can go back to normal now.

>>13492898
Last before I go; these are more clear shots regarding 'Jedi-core' tests. In short, I really like these combos...but again, for all the reasons I mentioned above. It's familiar, it's comfortable, and it's practical. But the familiarity issue is what influences my eye the most, I think, and which I should be rightfully suspicious of.