/fa/ - Fashion

>>17571197
Don't listen to any of the pussies who tell you to get below 21 oz. I rock 21 and 25 oz Iron Heart 888 and they get really soft despite what people think. Anything lighter makes you feel naked once you go the heavy selvedge route

>>17486586
No worries, this stuff can be kind of confusing since there is so much conflicting advice on the internet. But yeah, soak inside out. I think that people online overthink this shit when in reality all you need to do is just turn them inside out, give them a cold quick wash, and then hang dry. I would even say that doing an initial soak is kind of unnecessary and that you're going to stain stuff with the indigo no matter what. Jeans are made to be durable and functional pieces of clothing. Throwing them into a cold wash as opposed to soaking them is definitely not going to hurt them.

>>17446788
Like what was said by this guy >>17446927 the cost of producing higher end selvedge is significantly more considering the larger amount of labor involved with using higher skilled techniques required to create natural indigo dye, operate a shuttle loom to produce really dense denim, and employ much more stitching afterwards than what would be used for a pair of levis. There is absolutely a palpable difference between higher value selvedge compared to a pair of fast fashion jeans that isn't just "in your head". The fact that you keep trying to make this point proves you have never actually boughten higher value selvedge and have just been coping hard as fuck in this entire thread

>>17433119
You are proving my point. As soon as Iron Heart gets posted, poors start seething and throwing out the classic rEdDiT SoI bOi insult. It doesn't stop the fact that these are superior jeans.

>>17433162
This is not me, but I agree it would be better with some 350 cruisers

>>17432096
A pair of levis last me 1 year until the crotch blows out. Heavy weight Iron Heart lasts me at least 3+ years while having superior indigo and overall better appearance than Levis

>>17414391
Don't you have some level of activity in your lifestyle? Do you ride a bike or go to sweaty shows? Those are pretty good ways to exhert tension and stress on your denim, which ends up creating fades

>>17378640
I spent years trying to find the perfect pair of jeans. I always wrote off japanese selvedge as being stiff as fuck and overpriced. A couple years ago, I walked into Self Edge in Portland and tried on a few pairs and immediately could understand the amount of detail and quality the japanese put into making denim. I took a risk and bought a pair of heavy weight (21 oz) Iron Heart 888s in their overdyed black and have worn them almost daily for the last year and a half. Iron Heart's denim is notorious for having a really immaculate, dense weave, which results in a heavy yet smooth pair of jeans once you break them in. I know I am a little fanboy for Iron Heart in general, but the quality offered by japanese denim in general regardless of what company you decide to go for is like nothing else. I legitimately have no desire to wear any other pair of pants and have since downsized my wardrobe significantly.

People seem to always get tripped up by paying $300+ for a pair of jeans. Once you take that next step, you arguably pay just as much in the long run than if you were to buy any mass produced denim since the pairs of levis are going to immediately get blowouts in the crotch and high friction/tension areas within 1 to 1.5 years with regular wear, whereas you MIGHT get blowouts with one good pair of heavy weight selvedge in that same time frame. Thats not even considering that japanese denim is dyed with natural indigo and produces much more vibrant and beautiful fade contrast once you start breaking them in.