/fa/ - Fashion

>>6474659
>>6474676
also, i'm used to discussing these things with people who already have some knowledge, so i can just point out the sleeve, or whatever, and we can just launch into a discussion. i mean, the two guys i discuss clothing with the most, one has worked as an assistant under several fairly major designers and the other apprenticed at cloak. they're the twerk it to my /fa/ tbh.

>>6343788
rick owens is a multi-line format. there is no diffusion line.

>>6327620
havent seen much kiss on the runway since stag tbh

>>6164099
with the huge cowl and thigh high legwarmers it kinda feels like rick
i want thigh high boots know

not twerk:
and its a lot harder to get.. inspired vision when you design by committie
today's 'houses' talk about
classicism
and heritage
and their names are..dead names to an extent
do you know what i mean?
at best, they'll deal in nostalgia for different times.
and ways of being
and former strata of society
etc etc
thats why they keep the old names instead of being.. say

twerk:
i think gheshquire was very successful at making a balenciaga that had some relevance to us

not twerk:
..yes this is what i'm getting to
but ultimately gheshquire
and he says this himself
was in the service of 'balenciaga'
an amorphous entity
that, in his own words, had very little understanding
either of fashion as a social phenomenon
or fashion as in discipline of clothes-making and clothes-marketing.
if you read his recent interview
outlining the reasons he left
in other words,
the system as it exists today
places the actual creative fairly low
on its totem pole.
vs the system that was,
at its inception,
there to service the creative.
the rules of the game were not the same in the times of the people behind the houses and warm kind of romantic nostalgia for golden age of couture

twerk:
it's called "niche" now
rick owens and ann dem are "niche", even though they show in paris and have had some pretty long careers
(ann dem is starting to look pretty mainstream now, tho)

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