/fa/ - Fashion

>>15866484
Sorry, the Tuttonero is running fast for some odd reason.

What I was going to say was that there are specific models that are undesirable and thus flood the market; the two-tone DateJust being one of the 'entry-level' models that Rolex ADs encourage new customers to buy so they can get on the wait lists to be 'preferred customers'. Now, what happens to these undesirable watches bought in order to get better ones? The owners try to sell them as soon as possible, hence the flood. That's why there are so many that could never be absorbed by the market. You see the same with Cellinis, incidentally.

With Omega, you'll find Moonwatch Speedies were going lowest for around 4.5K C$ until last January, when things started to get strange due to Covid. Omega increased the retail price from 7000 plus tax to around 7700, or a little higher depending on the dealer and the AD. At the same time, Japan started dumping Speedies in the 4K range, well below what used to be the used market low bar.

Speedies are notorious on second hand markets due to two factors: there are no fakes that are even close to being genuine (thus increased confidence in buyers), but they are also the No. 1 watch suggested by 'enthusiasts' in the watch collecting stratus to be bought by new entrants ('everyone needs a Speedy in their collection'). So, people buy the watch, and then they realize that they might not like it...so they try flipping it. But the market supports this because there's enough love for the product.

Deville Hour Visions, 8500 Cal. Omegas, and others from the 2005-2012 era depreciate as expected (10-15% after the 10-15% under retail after purchase), but the early 2500 Cal go down significantly due to the shit movement. From the 90's, only the 2531.80 Bond Seamasters hold value; the Mark 40 that I have plummeted to around 2K starting, which is wonderful for a triple date Valjoux 7751.

>>15303633
Yup; also he talks about that anecdote and a few others on the documentaries you can find on YouTube.

It's an awesome book, and the documentation about the mathematics behind his co-axial discovery are breathtaking. Still waiting to pick up A Journey Through Time though, but I think Omega is thinking of publishing a new edition without all the errors.

>>14520585
Thanks...yeah, sometimes I use it for drying as well.

>>14520589
The Sinn is a different watch entirely. the Grail has the 24 hour complication, as well as the chronograph minutes and seconds are stacked on top of the normal running minutes and hours. The Sinn is fine, but it's not the grail.

>>14170739
I seriously considered getting one just to test the performance and to have one in the stable. But then I figured, what's the point? I have enough watches that tell the time...

>>14170747
lol I agree aesthetically that the 3-6-9 register is more classic/beautiful/balanced, etc., but the 6-9-12 is very common (you'll see it in the Valjoux 7750 watches, which are everywhere).

>>14170751
Well, it's a discussion point, like fine automobiles or expensive clothing. I'd say the greatest benefit is that people can at least learn something before they think about purchase. For a lot of people, their first mechanical watch comes with a lot of unknowns that they find out as soon as they buy it ('why isn't it keeping time as well as my quartz?' 'why do I need to pay for servicing? It's so expensive...' 'If I turn the crown the wrong way, will it break?' etc.). At least this way some people might find info and know what they're getting into.

The watch world is full of illusion. Celebs wear them, rich people wear them, and there's a lot of social stress associated with walking into a watch store for the first time. The luxury item comes with a lot of behavioral baggage, in other words. But that's the illusion; it's not really worth the money, not if you break it down part by part and process by process.

But then again, people like intricate things that are difficult to make that do precise things that happen to be aesthetically pleasing. Such is life.

>>13955622
It's absolutely possible. Consider what he said: he owned a rolex, moved up to the gmt, and now has started to save. If he sold these, then he'd be well on his way to getting into the price range of a lange, and assuming he doesn't think he'll die tomorrow, then he'll achieve his goal one day. Hopefully he won't reach the point that I have though, where 'unattainable' watches have lost their luster.

>>13955701
Which one are you saving up for Anon?