/fa/ - Fashion

>>15651534
Depends what you mean by "reliable".
If you just want brands, let's cut to the chase : a bunch of brands just use ETA or Ronda movements, which are labelled Swiss Made, that or some japanese Miyota or Seiko ones. And now of course, there is the whole deal of chinese-made movements, some of which are legit, most of which are cheapos. If you dig around, you'll be able to find who uses what without much trouble.
>TAG Heuer
the main culprit in using loopholes in the Swiss Made label. 1990-2010s TAG got a pretty bad rep due to their obnoxious marketing, their massive overpricing and their butchering of classic designs and the quality of the movements was not always up to snuff. Basically, they were overpricing in order to funnel money to their legit R&D department to then be used by the LVMH group. They are in the process of radically changing direction to better their brand image so who knows.
>Invicta
Another serious culprit. They are known for overpricing and for also abusing """sales""" offers, advertising discounts that may very well not be discounts, the usual. So at the end of the day, if they can afford to regularly sell their shit at grey market price while brand new, chances are they make good margins and low production costs would allow that.
>Hublot
Same deal as TAG, except without the heritage and without the change of heard and R&D.
>Breitling
Pretty legit, at least if they outsource then the quality is still here. Their in-house movements are also used by Tudor.
>Rolex
Rolex is easily one of the least transparent brands out there, from the exact size of their limited releases to the completion date and delays in shipping to authorized dealers, etc. We don't know whether or not they use loopholes and outsource.
>the Swatch Group
hard to tell
Since Swatch runs some factory lines in Switzerland to make parts cheaply, it's possible that they may not need to outsource much but the pricing on Tissot or Certina's entry level can be a bit fishy.
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9'oclock crowns are the superior option

What is your "fuck you I like it" watch?
>hurr Tag ruined everything
>nice pricing fgt
>still pricing what was innovative in the 70s as if it was innovative today
>LARPing as a race car driver
>you will never be Steve McQueen, stop trying
I dun care, it's still a cool watch.