/fa/ - Fashion

>>17053936
It depends on how dainty it looks on your petite wrist, madam...

>>15866529
The lowest price right now is around 4200 Canadian. About half retail price, but usually for no-box or papers. The Speedy reduced will be below 2000 Canadian, and the Mark 40 variants start around 2200. Are you interested in a Moonwatch in particular? Also, bear in mind that Sapphire will be more expensive than Hesalite, and the condition of the watch affects the price directly. If you want a Cal. 321, the starting price for a vintage is around 10,000 Canadian.

>>15866580
Depends on the motorcycle or the watch. Do you need either?

>>15685306
The Lemania 5100 is one of the few chronographs from that era that has a minute counter as a hand in the center instead of a separate minute subdial. The airplane shaped hand moves along when the chronograph is running, which allows 'at-a-glance' ease when determining the minutes the chronograph is recording. Compared with a small subdial where you have to look carefully (usually graded to 30 minutes instead of an hour), the center chronograph minute hand is as easy as reading the watch normally.

I believe Damasko also uses a variant of the Lemania 5100 for their chronographs, also utilizing the center minute hand (DC-80).

The other hands are obvious: top register is 24 counter, subdial at 9 is the running seconds, and the subdial at 6 is the chronograph hour counter.

For legibility, this is easily the best variant, though difficult to buy at the moment.

>>15326304
Jesus Anon...hell of a memory for that watch. Nothing wrong with the Seiko Penii though; there used to be quite a number of expert Anons here who would be able to tell you everything about them (it's definitely out of my knowledge). Do you still wear it once in a while? How's it running?

>>15326315
This Omega was the Speedmaster 4.5 variant that was the only model cased in the older Speedmaster case. The movement is a Lemania 5100, which is as tough a movement as you get. Automatic wind chronograph with day and month and 24hr subdial. The reason it's the rarest version is specifically because of the case; this configuration was only made for two years in the production, and there have been numerous reports of Omega fucking up if you send these in for servicing (replacing using wrong size minute hands, etc.).

You can get the more numerous Speedy 4.5 in other cases for around 2500USD, but this variant will cost you approx. 8-10 times as much, depending on the condition. In my view and in others it is the most beautiful combination of complexity in familiarity, and it could be considered the final evolution of the Speedmaster (if not for the Mark40 which came after and used the Valjoux 7551 and is smaller). So, it is choice.

>>15326338
Have a look at when this thread was created and compare it with the other one Anon...

>>15153519
Well, how is that any worse than asking a bunch of Anons who don't know you, have no idea what you look like, and who could very easily be yankin your crank what their opinions are on wearing a watch on your wrist? Honestly....at this point you might as well buy the fucking thing and not even bother to ask.

Why is everyone here worried about being a 'wristlet'? Do any of you work out at all? It's not difficult to build up forearms if you do the correct exercises and weights.

Jesus...how old are you?

>>15143033
No, you're thinking of the day-date Speedy which came out in the 90s. This is the lemania 5100 (jesus.fucking crhsit..took me 3 times to type 51000). it's one of the most reliable and hardy moveents available today, but in this config it's also the most rare. considered the 'Holy Grail', and goes for around 25000 or so on the open market.

Fucking beautiful in person.

>>15094619
Then ignore them. Class is only spoken of publicly by people who don't have any.

Perhaps what you hate most is what Rolex represents: wealth and the perception of status. But that's outside of Rolex, and affects other brands too.

When you do even cursory research into modern watchmaking, it becomes very obvious when analyzing a Rolex movement that they've thought out a great many things to make a watchmaker's life a lot easier. Furthermore, their innovations allow for a more robust watch overall, and this (in some ways) explains their hesitation in altering the outer aesthetic approach too quickly. But that's another argument entirely I guess.

What can one say...it's like owning a Mercedes. People buy it, usually for the status, and rarely for the engineering (even though depending on the model the engineering can be excellent).

>>15094622
I don't think anyone needs to shit on a pleb Anon...everyone has been 'down-and-out' at some point in their life. The question is whether or not they're able to pull themselves out.

>>15094627
I disagree: plebs have no idea what these are. They don't recognize the status from afar. If you wore a VC, no pleb would recognize it as any different from a really nice quartz Seiko (especially ones without any second indicators). While I lust after a George Daniels, I know that I'd never get one...but if I did, I can tell you that the vast majority of people I'd meet would never know the provenance, the horology, or the thought that went into it.

Hell, even my unobtanium Omega flies under the radar except to aficionados. The only way you 'impress' the pleb is to show them something they lust after...they don't lust after Pateks, they lust after Rolexes.

>>15090506
Do you like integrated bracelets Anon? Do you see any benefit aside from the aesthetic vector?

>>14520499
It's the holy grail, no, and it's about 25,000 (higher for one with original parts) starting. How old are you girls? Where the hell is everyone?

>>14510762
I think Damasko has watches doing the same thing, different aesthetic. Stowa does it for fliegers, and then there will be others that don't perhaps have the international name recognition but still the same engines.

>>14510766
Yeah, someone must have bought them. I don't know who the target market is though...and given what happened at Baselworld this year, I'd guess the target market is diminishing rapidly.

>>14109702
Ah, fair enough. I've never visited, but I knew a few Danish women in my life....very nice people.

North America's market has shown that watches aren't as important as digital tech (phones). Even bank people wear shitty quartzs that have large faces (think Fossil). It's sad, but understandable given the economy and need.

>>13953765
Sorry, a few other things that I forgot to mention.

The flaws in a watch are what help us to determine the history and character. But the function of the watch must continue to be performed. The omega policy (though I can't confirm for other members) is that the watch is returned to the owner in condition 'similar to new from the factory when it was made' or some such effect. This means that details of the face will be replaced if the lume has crapped out, hands may be replaced by hands that are not the original shape or design, etc. On modern watches this shouldn't be a problem too much...but older ones from the golden age are screwed.

To say, 'this was my father's watch' is useless if the movement has been nearly all replaced, the case completely refinished, the dial and hands replaced (because of course tritium is a no-no), etc. It's NOT my father's watch any longer. It's a replica of something he wore. Granted, this brings up the 'Spirit of St. Louis' paradox, but the point is that the elements that we associate with a watch in terms of its history usually comes from the way the watch looks to us as opposed to the way it operates. If Omega wants to eliminate indepedents, then for fuck's sake they need to offer the option of a lower warranty where you replace only elements that are associated with the movement. In other words, where the customer decides if the hands stay the same, if the lume stays the same, and maybe they can sign off on a contract with all the clauses. That would solve the problem...because honestly, without this option, the older watches will be sitting in a drawer forever and the secondary and antique market will be destroyed forever. Unless of course, that is the point as well.

Christmas was good Anon...thank you. I hope that yours was good too. It's nice when people are still alive...it's not going to be like this in the future. Cherish those who are around you now and in good health...

Serious question. Does the level of finishing on a movement have any effect on the efficiency and performance of the movement? In other words, higher end watches tend to feature extreme finishing in their movements, but will it contribute to the movements actually being more accurate long-term (or even something like contributing to less wear on the movement through use)?

I've never gotten a satisfactory answer to this...(I don't mean I want to hear the answer I want to hear, I mean that I want some quantifiable information that says, 'yes, a well finished balance cock will perform better than a brutally cut one because xxxx').

>>13874187
Yes you did, and you posted this in the previous thread, and it was answered. 5100 all the way.

>>13846814
No no, of course. My drunken ideas were not to in any way influence or criticize how other people organize their funds. Nor was it meant to prompt you to justify your collection, which is easily one of the most impressive I've ever seen.

It was more meant to explain a little more fully why I've fallen off the planet and found myself not needing to be on it in the first place. I don't know what the future holds, and though I'm scared as hell over the emotional ramifications of this, I'm not as terrified as I was the day I figured out what the core root of the concern was.

What was the new watch you got? Has it got pics yet?

>>13671316
You've got the wrong McFly...

Since Mechanicals today are obsolete in their function, their value in the market is determined precisely by the thing you think I should see past, the brand. Brand today is everything, and it's made even more intense precisely because tolerances of performance are now so consistent across different brands that the only thing you have left to distinguish them by the majority is aesthetic design, finishing, and 'heritage'.

I'll say it, even if you are a troll. Brand matters today more than ever. Tudor is lower tier Rolex, that's what its purpose and its place. In a world where people NEED reliable and affordable mechanicals to tell time (i.e. before the quartz revolution), then Tudor has a function. But today....well, unless a person really likes the aesthetic (which I've stated I do not), it is no different to me than Tag Heuer (which also I don't particularly like).

Now, I give Tudor credit for trying to go outside the Rolex box recently; I think it was a necessary and correct move, because if they distinguish themselves as their own brand instead of 2nd tier Rolex, that will help the general perception a lot. So...perhaps you can take comfort in that.

>>13665281
Ahh....okay. Interesting! I've never seen anything like that before.