/fa/ - Fashion

>>16002609
Then it's at least better than without. Are you thinking of that Grey Vario from >>16002485?
It's actually better if you just attach a pic of what you're thinking of; colours are not the end-all of it...if it were, everyone would buy a Silberstein.

>>15857520
>dress watch
Then the question becomes 'what functions do you plan to wear it to' and 'what functions do you need the watch to perform'?

Also, do consider seriously vintage. Vintage Omegas from the 60s have excellent mechanical movements and are a steal on the secondary market (i.e. under 1000$) for simple dress watches. Look for the Constellations. They're simple and are usual time-only, maybe with a numerical date window or even day-date (it'll be a little more expensive). Also, anyone can service them, and they're in the size range you mention.

Definitely go to an AD to try on watches though; don't buy one you've never tried on, because seeing it on your wrist and feeling the weight (or lack thereof) is a very serious consideration to how you will feel about the watch emotionally.

>>15857529
Thanks.
>pic related just for you.

>>15857546
>it's not the 1920s anymore
>we're talking about mechanical wristwatches that are less accurate than our mobile phones.
Where do you think you are?

>>15406477
I have no idea Anon. Maybe their technology for producing the Master Chronometers?

>>15406489
I understand; the proportions of the subdials is what attracts my eye. But that's the beauty of watches; they appeal to some, but not to all. The details have the same distribution, which is why it's very tough to find objective reasons why a watch design is shit/amazing.

>>15406502
Nixon? Post a pic to prove you're not a crook.

>>15327765
>isn't as charming.
>as charming
>charming
Are you trying to seduce me Anon? This faux-adversarial relationship you've initiated is in danger of becoming something...more.

Who's going to make the next thread? Maybe we could really wait 'till page 5 or so?

(((you)))

Well shit...that killed the discussion pretty fucking quickly...

>>14531792
Made me look it up. They use a Miyota movement....for fuck's sake. I guess for a fun watch these things happen.

>>14510383
I don't understand it myself. Fortis was around for a while, and eventually got involved with the Russian Space program. Their aesthetics in general are 'cool' tool watches, but using standard ETA/Valjoux/Lemania movements.

As for Sinn and the others, they got involved when the market for mid or low-mid tier mechanical watches was growing. Consider that for some time it was only Omega, Tag, and Oris. Not much to choose from, so why not have an extra company here and there providing a different look but the same basic engine inside.

Now the market has started to contract, probably for the last time in history, so now these brands are not only irrelevant but they'll begin to disappear as quickly as microbreweries will.

It's a strange thing, actually, watching how this is all unfolding. The main demographics who have money for this shit is now the Arabs, the Russians, and the Chinese. The average person, if they are saving for a 'luxury' watch, isn't going to go with a smaller brand because it's going to be their one and only watch. That being said, the Chinese don't buy except for the name and status, the Arabs only go for visible wealth, and the Russians...well, they go for anything really at this point.

So I don't know...but as Fortis was bought out last year I think, I'd say if you want to buy any of these watches from these brands, do so now because who knows if they'll be around in 5 years from now.

>>13945892
Happy Christmas to you too. Good health to you and your senpai.

>>13945897
What other shit, precisely? You can step into any of the boutiques and buy expensive watches without much hassle. It's the limited edition ones that are problematic, but if you wanted the standard Rolex President or JLC Reverso or even a standard Lange, it's not a problem if your finances are in order. What other shit are you talking about, aside from having bought watches from them prior in order to be eligible for the extremely limited editions?

>>13945902
Then go with an Alain Silberstein. Pic related..just for <<<you>>>

>>13945906
In my experience, it depends heavily on the company and the specific product. That's all. In my area, it's the rich chinese who buy these things, and no retailer is going to stop them from buying something 50,000+ just because they're a first-time buyer....

>>13880603
Sadly, all of them (Seiko, GP, all of them). Months ago I bitched and whined about the design aesthetic of Seiko (in short, I hate it, and they all look awful) but I can separate that from my admiration for their engineering (in particular, the Spring Drive).

But I saw the GPs, as well as the one Longines that was eventually converted as well as others that entered....I don't know, maybe this generation of watches doesn't work for me.

If Omega had put an observatory movement into a pie-pan constellation...well, that would be a different story, and I'd likely have a grail outside the Daniels watch (which will likely never leave private hands) or the Speedmaster (which as I lamented the other day that I no longer chase).

I don't know...I just...don't like this aesthetic. It's never appealed to me at all. But that's really beside the point (which should be about their performance).

>>13872090
Sorry, did you mean Grand Seiko? Or was this a misprint for 'GP'

>...answers you by talking about GS being the only manufacturer with the photolithography investment to produce these at scale.

I thought LVMH was only the Swiss manufacturers? Obviously LVMH would shoot themselves in the foot if they made these oscillators available from the ground up, that much is clear. But Seiko isn't a part of that, and they'd definitely have the ability to research this tech, wouldn't they?

And again, the Chinese. What is holding them back?

>>13872099
Interesting, on all points. The Chinese argument makes sense, I guess, but the Seiko one...how do you know about the internal politics?

Also, when you said they have considerable capacity from their semiconductor division....well, then they'd be the No. 1 threat to the Swiss, right?

>>13665252
lol Wild! Water activated...so....what does....how does it....what he fuck? lol I don't understand...